Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Mr. Socko]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/bbgrey.jpg




Awesome! The undies look a bit baggy, but this is a great job.

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah, it's kinda lame. I mean there's overdoring it, and then there's overdoing it. Nolan and Co. overdid it this time. :(

No. they did not. Nolan and crew created a great costume with no flaws at all. Quit your complaining.

[batsone]

Awesome! The undies look a bit baggy, but this is a great job.

thanks, i cant believe this thing is still floating around this thread.

[Bnightwing]

I love it the cityscape adds to it and I love the HUGE cape. Make some more!

[Superhobo]

No. they did not. Nolan and crew created a great costume with no flaws at all. Quit your complaining.

God, you're such a tool.


:whatever:

[The Joker_1000]

God, you're such a tool.


:whatever:

Thank you. :yay:

[teseract]

I always wondered what a Bat-Suit designed by H.R. Giger would look like... now I bet that one would be firightening.

[The Joker_1000]

Come on, Vegeta_1000. Reply to my post. I'm waiting.

You amuse me, little man. I'll give you that much. :hoboj:

[Green Goblin 1964]

God, you're such a tool.


:whatever:He's from the Spidey forums...what do you expect? :o

[teseract]

It would look like this:

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002IQDVU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I somehow doubt that.

[Green Goblin 1964]

You amuse me, little man. I'll give you that much. :hoboj: You don't know what your getting into...

[The Joker_1000]

You don't know what your getting into...


I'm really scared right now. :cwink:

[Green Goblin 1964]

I'm really scared right now. :cwink:http://dowbrigade.com/images/killercat.jpg

[The Joker_1000]

Don't get scuuuurd!

I'm really shaking, toughguy.

Pft, yeah right.

[Green Goblin 1964]

I'm really shaking, toughguy.

Pft, yeah right.Your so full of yourself when everyone's joking...

Funny really.

[Spade]

He probably asked an admin to change it for him.

[Super Kal]

http://www.hethe.com/forums/batman.jpg

good lord, HELL no.

[Darkness Falls]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
different

[StylishHokie21]

Your so full of yourself when everyone's joking...

Funny really.

He/she acted that way in the Dragonball forums.

[Prefix]

good lord, HELL no.If drawn in a more traditional style, it wouldn't look much different than the classic costume.

[Nightwing1977]

once we lose the bat undies I will be on board

Same here. :ikyn:

[Angeloz]

It would look like this:

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002IQDVU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

LOL. :D

Will there be singing of "Kumbaya" too? ;)

Angeloz

[thegameq]

does any body think there will be another suit change in the next movie?

Of course there will be. For some reason it's become a staple of Batman movies to keep changing his costume with each film. Most are hoping that by the third film we will see the costume evolve into the comicbook costume. But considering the reality angle Nolan is using I highly doubt it. Factor in the whole "escalation" theme, and I wouldn't be surprised if the next costume is more hi-tech or even further from the comics.

[thegameq]

Double post.

[El Payaso]

does any body think there will be another suit change in the next movie?

If trhey keep changuing it, kids will keep buying new figures with it.

That's the dynamics here.

[Mr. Socko]

Exactly, Payaso. WB wants a different suit each film for those very reasons. Nolan took the guideline and applied a reason in-context for it.

And I quite like it really, the suits can always evolve and get better. I'm glad Batman isn't wearing the Begins suit throughout all of TDK.

[BatScot]

The batsymbol on his chest is beyond retarded.Meh, I've seen worse...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK/TDKlogoN.jpg

[El Payaso]

Exactly, Payaso. WB wants a different suit each film for those very reasons. Nolan took the guideline and applied a reason in-context for it.

And I quite like it really, the suits can always evolve and get better. I'm glad Batman isn't wearing the Begins suit throughout all of TDK.

:up:

Sometimes studio things like this can make a director to develope interesting plotlines to justify them. I mean, as long as the director is someone like Nolan that is.

[Mr. Socko]

The Bat-symbol on The Dark Knight suit is indeed quite terrible. Because of all the plates, it nearly takes away it's visibility, it's far too small, and I can't claim to like how it indents in the middle. Those two pieces the symbol are laying on are beyond unnecessary.


/complain


edit; agreed El

[BATS N' HORNETS]

I agree Mr. Socko... The Bat-symbol on The Dark Knight suit is indeed quite terrible.

[Ironic_Commando]

I was fine with the BB bat symbol. The new suit is just too busy. That was just one of the problems of the last two Batman movies (Forever and B&R), the whole gaudy suit thing, and I thought Nolan was going away from that, but here we are with another suit with too much happening on it design wise. I still have faith in the movie but the suit leaves me cold.

[Octoberist]

There's certain aspects of the new suit that I don't like...I wish the chest area was more simpled, so you can see the Bat logo... I like the stomach part though.

I still think we haven't seen a good shot of Bale in the suit facing the camera. Until then, I like it for the most part. I'm worried about the supposed lightbulb head..

[Prefix]

The suit looks just like a Batman action figure, IMO.

[The Joker_1000]

He/she acted that way in the Dragonball forums.


He/she? How many times do I have to explain that I am a male. It's pretty damn obvious. Btw, I can act any way I want.

[BatScot]

Ahem, according to your own advice...

JackNick, don't worry about it. This is MY forum. I own this place. As long as you have a take-no-malarkey attitude, no one will mess with you. If someone calls you out, debate them until yer fingers fall off from typing so much in yer keyboard. If someone calls you a "n00b" , brush it off and tell them that they're jealous.

All in all, just don't give a fuh.

Joker_1000

So stop acting like a n00b. :(

... should tell you to go fuh yourself.

[regwec]

Admirable attention to detail and command of the facts, BatScot. You should consider a legal career.

[Conebone69]

Ahem, according to your own advice...



Joker_1000



... should tell you to go fuh yourself.
Owned... n00b

[Bnightwing]

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/i/2007/203/8/8/Away_from_my_desk_by_BroHawk.jpg


:wow: I love that Robin,batgirl,nightwing pic (the suit looks cool too)

[StylishHokie21]

He/she? How many times do I have to explain that I am a male. It's pretty damn obvious. Btw, I can act any way I want.

Why so serious? :oldrazz:

[Bnightwing]

Nice one icecsm16 haha

[Saint]

He/she? How many times do I have to explain that I am a male. It's pretty damn obvious. Btw, I can act any way I want.

Do you have a degree in posturing?

[regwec]

I can act any way I want.
Not while you're living under our roof, young lady.

[bunk]

He/she? How many times do I have to explain that I am a male. It's pretty damn obvious. Btw, I can act any way I want.


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1536/batmansassyui8.jpg

[The Joker_1000]

Some of you guys are really lame in this thread so I'm not even going to waste my time posting here anymore.

[regwec]

How do you waist time? Carry it on your belt?

[Wams]

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/i/2007/203/8/8/Away_from_my_desk_by_BroHawk.jpg


:wow: I love that Robin,batgirl,nightwing pic (the suit looks cool too)


http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/261/a/3/Heroic_trio_by_BroHawk.jpg

:word:

[Borat]

Yer so serious, Batscot. I mean, I bet yer ass is so tight you make diamonds in there, huh?hey! everyone knows i have the tightest ass around here.

[I Am The Knight]

Exactly, Payaso. WB wants a different suit each film for those very reasons. Nolan took the guideline and applied a reason in-context for it.

Right. Like Schumacher.

And I quite like it really, the suits can always evolve and get better. I'm glad Batman isn't wearing the Begins suit throughout all of TDK.

True, I like the new suit, except for the obnoxious legs.

Yer so serious, Batscot. I mean, I bet yer ass is so tight you make diamonds in there, huh?

Was this necessary? :waa:

[Bnightwing]

Thanks for the pic it is a really good one! I may print it out and frame it as well

[WhatA.Tool]

I'm really scared right now. :cwink:

why do you have to do this on every forum.

specially the DB one...i thought you would have gotten banned by now for not respecting others opinions :woot:

[stringsbatman]

cant we all jus get along

[PJBoy]

Super hi-resolution of batman in the batpod:

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1713/batmansc1.jpg (http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/N/U/batbike.jpg)
6144x4096 | 6,46MB

[Bnightwing]

WOW that is SUPER-HIGH lol i can even see the laser on his bike haha

[Wams]

http://comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8734/subcat_48290/d%20williams%20bat%20and%20cats.jpg

Lets get back to talking about the topic....

:batman:
:supes:

[Wams]

That pic is......not so good...


Why not?
Shed some knowledge.:yay:

[Nepenthes]

:up: :wow: fantastic drawings Wams, especially the sidekicks^.

Why don't you do more Robin designs anyway? I'd bet you'd come up with some very good ones. Your style is well-suited to Robin, more so than batman even (although i guess that's particular to how I like to imagine Robin, but yeah)

[DaddyGrayson]

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/261/a/3/Heroic_trio_by_BroHawk.jpg

:word:

This is FANTASTIC! :up:

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1536/batmansassyui8.jpg

where can i get one of those?:wow:

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Meh, I've seen worse...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK/TDKlogoN.jpg

Jesus! That is one ugly ass suit!:cmad:

[Wams]

The batsuit is meh, especially his belt, and the emblem is really bad imho. I mean it has a nice silhouette, but the 3-d effect ruins it.
And Catwoman doesn't look like she belongs in the pic. It actually looks like Batman is aiding in Catwoman's theft by being a lookout.

Well Majik I respect your opinion...however I don't agree with your
assessment...Here are the reasons for that look for Bats
in this rendering... http://comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8734/subcat_48290/d%20williams%20bat%20and%20cats.jpg

This was the inspiration for the piece...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/bathead.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/Batman-smooth-gif-medium.gif
As you can see it was update to the classic look without loss of
what was already articulated.:word:
As for Catwoman she obviously has no clue Batman is behind her.
So again...I don't agree with your assessment....
But I appreciate your honesty.:cwink:

[El Payaso]

http://comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8734/subcat_48290/d%20williams%20bat%20and%20cats.jpg

:up: :up:

[Mr. Socko]

http://comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8734/subcat_48290/d%20williams%20bat%20and%20cats.jpg

Lets get back to talking about the topic....

:batman:
:supes:

Are you a professional artist?

Anyway, cool drawings. I don't really like the design of the batsuit here(especially the 3D symbol) but Catwoman is awesome, really nice shading in all.

[thegameq]

Well Majik I respect your opinion...however I don't agree with your
assessment...Here are the reasons for that look for Bats
in this rendering... http://comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8734/subcat_48290/d%20williams%20bat%20and%20cats.jpg

This was the inspiration for the piece...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/bathead.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/Batman-smooth-gif-medium.gif
As you can see it was update to the classic look without loss of
what was already articulated.:word:
As for Catwoman she obviously has no clue Batman is behind her.
So again...I don't agree with your assessment....
But I appreciate your honesty.:cwink:

Your suit design is very intriguing. I don't outright dislike it...it just needs to be a little cleaner and simpler in the traditional sense. The three dimensional bat emblem is a nice touch.

Still it doesn't go overboard as so many other bat-suit designs tend to for some damn reason. Batman is more Ninja, Zorro and The Shadow than James Bond or Iron Man. I like your approach to the suit: traditionally stylized, yet updated with the mental supposition we all know about Batman wearing protective materials, WITHOUT GOING OVERBOARD.

I like it.

It also has a very...dated feel; 30s-40s..?

[The Guard]

Wams, will you design me a Batsuit for BATMAN: THE MUSICAL?

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Super hi-resolution of batman in the batpod:

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1713/batmansc1.jpg (http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/N/U/batbike.jpg)
6144x4096 | 6,46MB
Is it just me or does this pic look like it was taken during the day?

[BATS N' HORNETS]

Someone get me a front view shot of TDK suit and I will photoshop it LABELING the good and bad aspects...

batfans should retaliate harder to the disapproval of this new suit!

NOLAN is slowly, slowly turning the suit into a Shumacher NIGHTMARE (meaning the composition of the suit is too busy)

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Someone get me a front view shot of TDK suit and I will photoshop it LABELING the good and bad aspects...

batfans should retaliate harder to the disapproval of this new suit!

NOLAN is slowly, slowly turning the suit into a Shumacher NIGHTMARE (meaning the composition of the suit is too busy)

I think that statement is way too harsh and irrelevant. Im with the crowd saying that in the film, the suit will be lit low, so you dont see so much of the design of it.

[Wams]

I've seen that updated suit animation before and I still don't like it. But to each his own.

So where is your contribution?:yay:

[Wams]

Batman isn't such an easy character as say Nightwing or Robin, or the Bat-rogues, and since when does someone have to contribute their own design to say what other designs look good or bad?

"Nightwing or Robin, or the Bat-rogues" are easy?
Ahhhhh...if you say so.

I asked about your contribution because you do art right???
An artist show it better than explain it...
So why not put up....???:yay:

[Wams]

Beccause I have yet to make a Batman design that I like 100%. There's always something missing in them, plus I don't feel like hearing people complaining that I don't have him muscled enough or something stupid like that.


Sorry about this...but......>:whatever:

[batsone]

So where is your contribution?:yay:
wow got your tights in a bunch. I friggen hate your designs. hate em
:waa: :waa: :waa:

ive never said so because i usually dont comment on crap idont like, im nice that way, but you need to be able to accept that some people wont like your stuff without being all well its better than yours so there.

[deathfromabove]

That pic is......not so good...

Beccause I have yet to make a Batman design that I like 100%. There's always something missing in them, plus I don't feel like hearing people complaining that I don't have him muscled enough or something stupid like that.


:whatever:

[Wams]

wow got your tights in a bunch. I friggen hate your designs. hate em
:waa: :waa: :waa:

ive never said so because i usually dont comment on crap idont like, im nice that way, but you need to be able to accept that some people wont like your stuff without being all well its better than yours so there.

I got my tights in a bunch??? LOL!!!
Really?
By your post it sound like you are typing with
wedgy riding so high you can taste yourself....
Just relax Chief....
I could care less if you or anyone else digs the idea or not.
I just put them out thier as ideas...No biggie.
So no need for you to :waa: about it.... just be cool.:word:
Im glad you are not all bottled up any more.
Hope you feel better about yourself now.:cwink:

[Saint]

Are you all children?

[batsone]

easy trigger, your the one who gets all pissy,when people dont like your crap but ive learned to expect that reaction from your previous posts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/bbgrey.jpg
my contribution

[Wams]

Are you all children?

Only at heart....:cwink:
I can't speak for the other people hear.

[TheBatman072]

Only at heart....:cwink:
I can't speak for the other people hear.


The other people hear what?


All your excessive bull****?

[Wams]

easy trigger, your the one who gets all pissy,when people dont like your crap but ive learned to expect that reaction from your previous posts.
my contribution


Yawn....:whatever:
What are you...my Mary Jane Watson?
Why do you insist on being a ********* by discribing peoples work a crap?
you wanna see crap...
look at two years you wasted on this.... http://photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/db3.jpg
Im sure your Mom and Dad are proud.:whatever:

Im just sayin.

As far as your photo shop contibution...Not bad....Not great...but not bad:cwink:

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

WOW you guys are being really harsh! Easy on the use of words boys and girls jeesh!

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

easy trigger, your the one who gets all pissy,when people dont like your crap but ive learned to expect that reaction from your previous posts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/bbgrey.jpg
my contribution
I really wish maybe someday we could get something like this, and im not even one of the supporters of making the suit look more "comic" styled either. But this is a great manip.

[TheBat812]

Everybody in this thread is acting like they're five.

[batsone]

Yawn....:whatever:
What are you...my Mary Jane Watson?
Why do you insist on being a ********* by discribing peoples work a crap?
you wanna see crap...
look at two years you wasted on this.... http://photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/db3.jpg
Im sure your Mom and Dad are proud.:whatever:

Im just sayin.

As far as your photo shop contibution...Not bad....Not great...but not bad:cwink:

um it's trigger as in the horse.
not tiger tool.
so i didnt buy my suit from bob, ooh nooooo. you design still blows IMO

[Saint]

Everybody in this thread is acting like they're five.

No kidding. Even I, a certified Internet Demagogue, find this display pathetic.

[Wams]

um it's trigger as in the horse.
not tiger tool.
so i didnt buy my suit from bob, ooh nooooo. you design still blows IMO


Oh my bad...Didn't see the other "g"..
Thanks for the compliment on compairing me to a horse...:cwink:
as for what "blows"....you can blow this horse.;)

Now come on.... Im done with u....Lets play nice.:word:

[The Caped Knight]

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/261/a/3/Heroic_trio_by_BroHawk.jpg

:word:

:wow: That's INCREDIBLE !!!!

[Super Kal]

very nice :up:

[regwec]

Next person to **** gets Regwacked!

[Conebone69]

Super hi-resolution of batman in the batpod:

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1713/batmansc1.jpg (http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/0/N/U/batbike.jpg)
6144x4096 | 6,46MB
I noticed theres a little scope type thing by the front weel

[Nepenthes]

Wams do have any other Robin drawings lying around? I'd really like to see some of your designs.

[BatScot]

Much like Saint I find there is no single image that represents the ideal, but it exists somewhere in the sum of their parts:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/batmanbest8hp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/BatmanwraithbyBane.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/batmanHB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/side2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/Etched_blackbelt_2b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/tdksuit3xp6_1.jpg

... traditional without being hackneyed, contemporary without being excessive.

[BatScot]

I think sculpting a suit to look like super-defined ("toned") muscle is idiotic. But if the contours are smoothed out so it's really soft detail it could work - then you'd basically have something that had the same contours as the spider-man or other fabric suit, only with the external surface being a sculpted rubber element.Voilà...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/1408904202_l.jpg

[MMoralN10Tion]

Voilà...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/1408904202_l.jpg

Wow, perfect. Now, add some padding underneath, and perfection! Who made that suit?

[Jonathan Chase]

Well, at least the petty bickering seems to have stopped, for now anyway.

[BatScot]

Wow, perfect. Now, add some padding underneath, and perfection! Who made that suit?I don't recall, but I know it's fan made... imagine what could be done with a Hollywood budget! Weta?

[BatScot]

Pretty cool.:up: The belt doesn't belong though.:csad:Perhaps something like this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/belt.jpg

[Angeloz]

Looks better:up:

The main prob with a lot of fan belts is how big people make them.

Maybe they have size issues. ;) :D

Angeloz

[BatScot]

Looks better:up:

The main prob with a lot of fan belts is how big people make them.I think the Bermejo belt would be a good fit also:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/Berbelt.jpg

[lujho]

I think the Bermejo belt would be a good fit also:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/Berbelt.jpg

I think it should have a central buckle but yeah, that's pretty much ideal.

[Spade]

No, just keep the one from Begins. That's the best belt ever.

QFT. I like the comic Batman and wouldn't change him, but Begins has some things that shouldn't be screwed with.

[Nepenthes]

practicality? I don't think so, you can barely fit a pack of tic tacs and a condom in there

[Jonathan Chase]

practicality? I don't think so, you can barely fit a pack of tic tacs and a condom in there

LDdGnuwXUIw

[BatmanFanatic]

Also, has anyone noticed how the mouth opening in TDK cowl doesnt start exactly under the nose? I mean, the nose ends and there is a small part of the cowl covering his moustache and then there's the opening. Seen best in high-def batpod pic but in others as well. I think its probably to make the moustache area smaller, thus making the mouth seem like its positioned higher and thus making the jaw appear bigger, or more BTAS if you like. Only thing Bale misses then: A better jaw!


Thank you for not making me feel odd as the only person to be bothered by Bales weak jaw/overbite.

Yay ... now it can bother us together =P

[BatmanFanatic]

Voilà...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/1408904202_l.jpg


RWWWWWWR :cwink:

Why do the pouches have to be 3 times bigger than normal though?

[Dr.Doom]

I'd be fine with that type of suit, plus Bale actually has the body to pull it off. Only remove the wrinkles and keep the TDK belt

[Shoemeister]

FTW

http://www.deanguitars.tv/userpics/lib9/bale-costume-1.jpg

QFT

[Nepenthes]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii318/barbarabush8/gaybelt.jpg

oh and that video is fcken HILARIOUS^. especially Charles' voice

[Dr.Doom]

i was bored and its my first ever manip
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3329/batsbl4.gif

[lujho]

I guess the pouch belts/Home Depot. belts look cooler in the comics, but the Begins belt just beats them in both aesthetics and practicality.

But it doesn't look real! It looks like a "kewl" movie prop. It looks like something that was designed by movie makers to appear in a movie and look fancy and not be of any actual use whatsoever.

What's the harm in Batman's gear looking like stuff people actually use - police, military etc? A belt doesn't have to be high tech just because it's Batman's. Who the **** would actually make a rigid metal belt anyway? There's nothing realistic or practical about it.

Why shouldn't Batman's stuff be a little more gritty and down to earth? Yeah, he's a billionaire, but you can't really improve on the basic millennia old concept of the belt - making it look like something out of a sci fi movie and giving it a stupid, stupid v shape don't make it any more Batman.

[Prefix]

I just think the big belts look ugly.

[lujho]

I just think the big belts look ugly.

Well, every single pouch belt I've seen in a fan film or costume IS stupidly big, both the pouches and bug dumb buckles. The Alex Ross look.

Doesn't mean you can't make one that doesn't look silly.

[Mr. Socko]

Voilà...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/1408904202_l.jpg

The contours and muscle design looks nice. But I don't like the huge utility belt and that's a bad shade of grey. But like you said, imagine what could be done with a $150M budget!

practicality? I don't think so, you can barely fit a pack of tic tacs and a condom in there


Hahahahahaha!

[Citadel30]

Doesnt Batman have most of his tools hidden on the backside of his belt? From what i remember- whenever he needs something- he pulls it out from behind his back.

[Citadel30]

A Home Depot tool belt. Something that a person building a house would wear.

[Dark Knigh7]

Well Majik I respect your opinion...however I don't agree with your
assessment...Here are the reasons for that look for Bats
in this rendering... http://comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8734/subcat_48290/d%20williams%20bat%20and%20cats.jpg

This was the inspiration for the piece...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/bathead.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/nwonknu2k/Batman-smooth-gif-medium.gif
As you can see it was update to the classic look without loss of
what was already articulated.:word:
As for Catwoman she obviously has no clue Batman is behind her.
So again...I don't agree with your assessment....
But I appreciate your honesty.:cwink:I REALLY like your interpretation of the Bat-suit. And you may just have the best looking Catwomen I have ever seen.:wow:


One thing I like about the suit, is the bat-symbol and how it pops out a little. It's very old school, but with a nice modern take on it.

How long have you been drawing for?

[GoogleMe94]

yeah one thing i dont like about the nolan films is that they dont care about the aesthetic, bu care more about the reason for the aesthetic. i just want the suit, car, etc to look cool, dont care about "realism".

[Mr. Socko]

Also, does anyone else think that the memory cloth suit should become cannon in the comics as well? Or has it already been done?

I am saying this because apart from being cool, it gives batman great agility and a new gadget in his arsenal. And it would work even better when batman is fighting with the JL which is comprised by gods, semigods and aliens. He is the weakest of them all. This could elevate him a bit. No more superman saving batman from falling.

Batman in the comics DOES have a cape that hardens, there just simply hasn't been an explanation for how it works or whatever, because it's a comic book. In the comics Batman's cape stiffens, glides, etc. It's a stylized comic book, we just accept that it functions that way, and not how.

You could say Nolan took that idea, improved upon it, and gave us an explanation.

[Angeloz]

Since english isnt my native language, can someone explain the term "home depot" in reference to the belt? I know the meaning of each word, i just dont get the reference here.

Also, does anyone else think that the memory cloth suit should become cannon in the comics as well? Or has it already been done?

I am saying this because apart from being cool, it gives batman great agility and a new gadget in his arsenal. And it would work even better when batman is fighting with the JL which is comprised by gods, semigods and aliens. He is the weakest of them all. This could elevate him a bit. No more superman saving batman from falling.

A Home Depot tool belt. Something that a person building a house would wear.

What Citadel30 said. Plus Home Depot is a hardware store in the U.S. where people get equipment and goods to do-it-themselves i.e. fix their homes. At least I believe that to be the case. Or in other words it's a fancy tool belt with pockets (the Bat belt).

Angeloz

[zman]

i was bored and its my first ever manip
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3329/batsbl4.gif

that shows potential

[Jonathan Chase]

BR and BF had beautiful ones

How were they beautiful? One of them had nipples.

[Nightwing1977]

No, just keep the one from Begins. That's the best belt ever.

Same here. I love it. It not big & it doesn't have like 100 pouches. It too distracting when the belt have too much pouches than it should have. Also, it ugly how some fanfilm Batman's belts are too friggin' huge!! It don't need to be huge.

How were they beautiful? One of them had nipples.

And big codpiece too! :wow:

[circa81]

I can't beleive this stuff is really real! This would work perfectly for batman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDeJ7rLUYU

[MagicPrime]

But it doesn't look real! It looks like a "kewl" movie prop. It looks like something that was designed by movie makers to appear in a movie and look fancy and not be of any actual use whatsoever.

What's the harm in Batman's gear looking like stuff people actually use - police, military etc? A belt doesn't have to be high tech just because it's Batman's. Who the **** would actually make a rigid metal belt anyway? There's nothing realistic or practical about it.

Why shouldn't Batman's stuff be a little more gritty and down to earth? Yeah, he's a billionaire, but you can't really improve on the basic millennia old concept of the belt - making it look like something out of a sci fi movie and giving it a stupid, stupid v shape don't make it any more Batman.

The belt was also the harness rigging for the the grappling spike launcher. And its segmented metal, like a metallic watch band. And it has the V shape because that follows the contour of the body as it bends over.

[Mr. Socko]

I can't beleive this stuff is really real! This would work perfectly for batman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDeJ7rLUYU


What!? That's real:eek::eek::eek:

[Crook]

For the benefit of the anti-fabric world being destroyed, we shall pretend it does not exist. :o

[bunk]

That orange stuff rocks. I wonder how long you can use it for.

[batsone]

This material has been posted in its own thread which i suppose has been deleted. So, as i said there earlier, this stuff doesnt work.

I explain:
Only the few centimetres that were hit from the shovel get hard while the rest stays soft. Therefore its not like it becomes a helmet when you get hit. Its just a thin (in this case at least) hard material between the shovel and your head. Try it. Put a frying pan on your head then hit it with a shovel. It does nothing. Armour and helmets always have a soft material on the inside to absorb the force of the impact. This is pointless.

And since when do cloth-fans care about realism? They are all: "Batman is a comic book hero, he should have no armour. I wish he wore pajamas and his underwear on top of that!"
first off show me one ****** quote where anyone in this forum said they wished bats wore pajamas.
second modern helmets dont have any soft material in them, they are set ona web like harness that holds the helmet off the head.

third how the hell do you know this wouldnt work,are you a scientist or a chemist, no ???
fourth the hardening would disperse the impact.

[Nepenthes]

Batman would be carrying around Magnums.:o

what the heck are Magnums?

[Dr.Doom]

wait till your older

[Mr. Socko]

LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_%28condom%29

[cjhill_14]

Much like Saint I find there is no single image that represents the ideal, but it exists somewhere in the sum of their parts:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/batmanbest8hp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/BatmanwraithbyBane.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/batmanHB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/side2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/Etched_blackbelt_2b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/TDK2/tdksuit3xp6_1.jpg

... traditional without being hackneyed, contemporary without being excessive.
QFT

[Reflectionist]

"On the next episode of Pimp My Batsuit, Bruce be visitin' his homey Lucius "Lucious" Fox for a sweet hook-up, dawg!"

I so read that as "On the next episode of Pimp My Biscuit, Bruce be needing some honey Luscious Fox for a sweet hook-up, dawg!"

[Nepenthes]

wait till your older

that's what I told Dakota Fanning

[zman]

cjhill_14 and BatScot, totally agree with you. I'll make my batsuit with those images in mind.

[lujho]

Batman in the comics DOES have a cape that hardens, there just simply hasn't been an explanation for how it works or whatever, because it's a comic book. In the comics Batman's cape stiffens, glides, etc. It's a stylized comic book, we just accept that it functions that way, and not how.

You could say Nolan took that idea, improved upon it, and gave us an explanation.

Since when? Batman jumps around with his cape spread out a lot. I've never, even seen any indication that it actually stiffens, and while there might be mention or implication of the cape slowing his fall a bit (which is obviously rubbish) he doesn't glide. More often than not he's using his rope in some capacity.

In fact, capeless heroes like Nightwing and Catwoman do pretty much everything Batman does without a cape - jumping from the same heights and differences without difficulty.

The cape-glider is an unneccessary addition made by Nolan, with little basis in the comics.

[JaD]

LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_%28condom%29

had no clue there was a wikipedia article about it haha i learned some valuable information today

[Spade]

I so read that as "On the next episode of Pimp My Biscuit, Bruce be needing some honey Luscious Fox for a sweet hook-up, dawg!"


Lucius is Nolan Batman's alternative in lieu of Robin. :o

[BatmanFanatic]

i was bored and its my first ever manip
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3329/batsbl4.gif

Nice! I fully approve :yay::yay::yay:

[lujho]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/lujho/riotpolice350.jpg

[lujho]

These guys remind me of Lex Luthor's men from S:TAS

Or the various riot police we see from BTAS through to JLU.

[The Guard]

Since when? Batman jumps around with his cape spread out a lot. I've never, even seen any indication that it actually stiffens, and while there might be mention or implication of the cape slowing his fall a bit (which is obviously rubbish) he doesn't glide. More often than not he's using his rope in some capacity.

In fact, capeless heroes like Nightwing and Catwoman do pretty much everything Batman does without a cape - jumping from the same heights and differences without difficulty.

The cape-glider is an unneccessary addition made by Nolan, with little basis in the comics.

Batman has been using his cape to slow his fall and glide short distances since the late seventies. It's sporadic, but various writers do show it. Nolan added the actual "gliding long distances" element, but Batman has used a glider many times in the comics. BATMAN BEYOND featured a glider cape. And the movies have featured a "glider cape" for years now. Nolan just made an attempt to explain it.

[Citadel30]

Batman has been using his cape to slow his fall and glide short distances since the late seventies. It's sporadic, but various writers do show it. Nolan added the actual "gliding long distances" element, but Batman has used a glider many times in the comics. BATMAN BEYOND featured a glider cape. And the movies have featured a "glider cape" for years now. Nolan just made an attempt to explain it.


and i loved the explanation!!!!

honestly- what other purpose would a long draping cape serve? I mean- when fighting it would get in the way, possibly getting tangled up. so the memory cloth/glider theory made perfect sense to me.

[The Guard]

Well, the visual of the cape is pretty important for the "Batman" look. It's also been portrayed as armored in the comics, and the tips are weighted with strike points, so he can use it in combat.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

and i loved the explanation!!!!

honestly- what other purpose would a long draping cape serve? I mean- when fighting it would get in the way, possibly getting tangled up. so the memory cloth/glider theory made perfect sense to me.

Thats how I feel about it, considering from what I've heard Nolan considered scrapping the cape in Begins, maybe im wrong.

[Mr. Socko]

Batman has been using his cape to slow his fall and glide short distances since the late seventies. It's sporadic, but various writers do show it. Nolan added the actual "gliding long distances" element, but Batman has used a glider many times in the comics. BATMAN BEYOND featured a glider cape. And the movies have featured a "glider cape" for years now. Nolan just made an attempt to explain it.


His cape would become stiff in the previous films as you said. There was just no explanation. Like when he slowly lowered down upon the thugs unnoticed in B'89.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1396/batman010rp8.jpg

Batman also glides with his cape in Forever in the scene where he saves Dick Grayson from the neon thugs. With that said, Nolan and Goyer's explanation of memory cloth was pretty cool. It added consistency.

[OneKnight]

Also, I figured he used it when he jumps off the roof of GCPD and lands in the Batmobile in Batman Forever.

[peteagassi]

How ****ing cool was that when the screen went black in the prologue, and the tribal/bat/drums started kicking in as the the bat suit (in a metal cage) rises up. So cool!

[Nightwing1977]

LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_%28condom%29

Silly Socko. This is what a real Magnum look like. It what Dirty Harry like. :hoboj:

http://www.stillhq.com/guns/pictures/magnum_50cal_500.jpg

[CaptainClown]

ahh the mans gun. I think I am going to invest in a magnum like that. Lord knows what I would use it for...

[batmanbeginsboy]

i was bored and its my first ever manip
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3329/batsbl4.gif
hi im batman and ill be instructing your stripper pole arobics class tonight.

im sry but this suit design looks like batman is headed down to a gay bar

[regwec]

Yes, gay people do often dress like that.

[The Battousai]

:word:

LLSsEiviROU

"Hot stuff comin' through!"

[Mr. Socko]

Yes, gay people do often dress like that.


wtf

[Brick]

:word:

LLSsEiviROU

"Hot stuff comin' through!"
Best episode ever!

[regwec]

wtf
It was supercasm.

[afan]

His cape would become stiff in the previous films as you said. There was just no explanation. Like when he slowly lowered down upon the thugs unnoticed in B'89.




In B'89 he created the illusion of flight by creatively using the batgrapple. It's very clear as he descends on Jack Napier in the chemical factory in a "glide". This enhanced the skill of the man rather than the gimmickry of the glider cape.


Well, the visual of the cape is pretty important for the "Batman" look. It's also been portrayed as armored in the comics, and the tips are weighted with strike points, so he can use it in combat.


Correct, and may I add it is used to conceal his use of slight of hand much as a magician may wear a cape. Ans let's not forget the purpose of capes in every day apparel, protection from the elements, cold, rain etc.

[Citadel30]

Correct, and may I add it is used to conceal his use of slight of hand much as a magician may wear a cape. Ans let's not forget the purpose of capes in every day apparel, protection from the elements, cold, rain etc.


i highly doubt that one of the main reasons Batman uses the cape is to protect himself from the rain.


Plus- as a fighting ninja, the cape would just get in his way and possibly get tangled up in his arms, leaving him at a disadvantage.

I feel that the memory cloth theory is a great one and at the moment i saw it, i thought to myself- that makes sense for Batman to have that long cape.

[afan]

i highly doubt that one of the main reasons Batman uses the cape is to protect himself from the rain.


Plus- as a fighting ninja, the cape would just get in his way and possibly get tangled up in his arms, leaving him at a disadvantage.

I feel that the memory cloth theory is a great one and at the moment i saw it, i thought to myself- that makes sense for Batman to have that long cape.

Batman is perched on a ledge staking out a potential crime location. It's winter, it's midnight and it's sleeting, why exactly do you doubt he would be wearing something that protects him from the elements?

[Sandouras]

Batman is perched on a ledge staking out a potential crime location. It's winter, it's midnight and it's sleeting, why exactly do you doubt he would be wearing something that protects him from the elements?
Because he could wear a raincoat, a thicker suit or whatever.

Also another handicap of the cape is that you cant control it. Imagine stalking someone outside his window and the cape billows and betrays your position.

Whatever.

Memory cloth is awesome!

EDIT: so let me get this straight: Nolan contemplated removing the cape as well as the grapple gun. What was he thinking? Its batman. Respect it or leave. And look how mobile and agile he is with the cape and gun. Man....Nolan almost made Batman too realistic. Why so serious?

[Citadel30]

Batman is perched on a ledge staking out a potential crime location. It's winter, it's midnight and it's sleeting, why exactly do you doubt he would be wearing something that protects him from the elements?


Because he is the GODD**M Batman- that's why!!! :woot:

He feels no cold or sleet!!!

[Sandouras]

OK, i know this is a bit off topic but i think that the BB soundtrack was discussed in this thread. If there is a thread about it, you could transfer this post there. Please mods, dont delete this post and if a productive one or two pages long discussion comes out of it, then let it be.

I just wanted to say that i just watched Jeremy Clarkson's documentary called "The greatest raid of all time" (found it in torrents section of motorworld) which was epic btw.
So i noticed that in a number of scenes they used the "stethoscope" theme which was brilliant!
That reminded me of a lot of other shows that i've seen that used BB themes (Deal or no deal in my country uses them a lot for example). That shows that this music is good and that it can be used in a lot of situations. Plus, i think that apart from fans not many people know these themes are batman themes (which is bad really...) so it leaves the music free of whatever misconception a producer might have (thinking that its kids stuff, or silly batman music), so he can just use it.
On the other hand maybe sound editors use it exactly because its a good batman music (i dont know how aware people are in america).

But all in all the music is good. Danny Elfman's music couldnt be used in a tv show because its totally batman and because of its pompous tone. That doesnt make it bad, but i sure get a sneaky smile on my face when i hear BB music in a show and people around dont even notice it.


My point: The fact that BB music is widely used by tv and maybe other means points that Zimmer isnt a lazy bum as some have suggested. Its a great music and maybe all it needs its a bit of a polishing up in order to achieve a more pompous/batman/epic tone. In order to become distinguished by everyone as batman and not "some drums".

My proposal: At the end of the TDK prologue, there is a sequence of scenes from the movie accompanied by a very dark, brooding theme. Some said its from BB, i personally dont remember this one (if you do, point out the particular scene) but anyway, this could suit as the main Nolan-Batman theme better than the BB main theme. Its dark and has the potential of a glorious climax if continued. In a way, it resembles elfman's. It really is batman.

[batsone]

and this pertains to the batsuit how???

[Sandouras]

and this pertains to the batsuit how???Because i think that in this, or in some other irrelevant to OST thread there has been a discussion about it. So i posted it here.

Besides, i havent yet amassed the required number of 10000000000 posts to be allowed to post a new thread.
I havent even amassed the 1000000000000000000000000000000 posts to be allowed to get an avatar for christ's sake!(which is a small image with limited size. Do you have to spend your lifetime in here to be allowed one?)

[regwec]

I think it's about 500 or something. Saddos like me pass that total with dismissive ease.

[The Guard]

In B'89 he created the illusion of flight by creatively using the batgrapple. It's very clear as he descends on Jack Napier in the chemical factory in a "glide". This enhanced the skill of the man rather than the gimmickry of the glider cape.

That was one of my favorite elements of BATMAN. The way his equipment was shown to explain his comic book "acrobatics".

Correct, and may I add it is used to conceal his use of slight of hand much as a magician may wear a cape. Ans let's not forget the purpose of capes in every day apparel, protection from the elements, cold, rain etc.

Exactly.

highly doubt that one of the main reasons Batman uses the cape is to protect himself from the rain.

From anything. Bullets, fire, acid, you name it. It can be used as a protective measure.

Plus- as a fighting ninja, the cape would just get in his way and possibly get tangled up in his arms, leaving him at a disadvantage.

As a fighting ninja, the helmet would be a horrible idea, too.

Also another handicap of the cape is that you cant control it. Imagine stalking someone outside his window and the cape billows and betrays your position.

Sure you can control it. It just takes practice, and knowing your suit very well. I read a comic once that showed Bruce practicing with just the cape, so he'd be ready when he went out.

[BATS N' HORNETS]

I see you Hypers do all these fan-manips... So concerned with a suit for live-action film. Why not do a manip of a Neil Adams style suit that could be in a live action movie... Just for kicks, lets forget all the armor & high tech stuff... LETS HAVE A MANIP THAT ACTUALLY IS FAITHFUL TO THE BOOKS....

For instance, IN THE BOOKS lucius fox didn't give him a nomex suit to modify and turn into a huge BAT! ! ! !

do a real manip & forget for once, about the NOLAN movies (OMG... did he just say what I think he said?????)

[Dark Knigh7]

I see you Hypers do all these fan-manips... So concerned with a suit for live-action film. Why not do a manip of a Neil Adams style suit that could be in a live action movie... Just for kicks, lets forget all the armor & high tech stuff... LETS HAVE A MANIP THAT ACTUALLY IS FAITHFUL TO THE BOOKS....

For instance, IN THE BOOKS lucius fox didn't give him a nomex suit to modify and turn into a huge BAT! ! ! !

do a real manip & forget for once, about the NOLAN movies (OMG... did he just say what I think he said?????)
They're in here, bud. You just have to go through 745 pages in order to find them.:hoboj:

[TheBat812]

I see you Hypers do all these fan-manips... So concerned with a suit for live-action film. Why not do a manip of a Neil Adams style suit that could be in a live action movie... Just for kicks, lets forget all the armor & high tech stuff... LETS HAVE A MANIP THAT ACTUALLY IS FAITHFUL TO THE BOOKS....

For instance, IN THE BOOKS lucius fox didn't give him a nomex suit to modify and turn into a huge BAT! ! ! !

do a real manip & forget for once, about the NOLAN movies (OMG... did he just say what I think he said?????)
It's been done. And they all look stupid as hell.

[Mr. Socko]

It was supercasm.

Oh ok, was hard to tell when I read it:oldrazz:

i highly doubt that one of the main reasons Batman uses the cape is to protect himself from the rain.


Plus- as a fighting ninja, the cape would just get in his way and possibly get tangled up in his arms, leaving him at a disadvantage.

Conversely, he would have been burned a live had it not been for the cape in Batman Forever.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9844/1401rn2.jpg

[Citadel30]

Conversely, he would have been burned a live had it not been for the cape in Batman Forever.


I thought his entire suit was fire resistant.

either way- the cape is bad-a$$. I could give two craps what all it does, i just thought it was cool that the thing was memory cloth that turned into a glider. any other added features are kicka$$ as well.

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I see you Hypers do all these fan-manips... So concerned with a suit for live-action film. Why not do a manip of a Neil Adams style suit that could be in a live action movie... Just for kicks, lets forget all the armor & high tech stuff... LETS HAVE A MANIP THAT ACTUALLY IS FAITHFUL TO THE BOOKS....

For instance, IN THE BOOKS lucius fox didn't give him a nomex suit to modify and turn into a huge BAT! ! ! !

do a real manip & forget for once, about the NOLAN movies (OMG... did he just say what I think he said?????)
Sorry you came in this just a tiny bit late.

[Rockadood]

Someone posted a video of this orange protective rubber being used to protect someone being hit with a shovel.

It's a substance called d3o and is developed for athletes and extreme sports enthusiasts. Have a look at the site, I'm sure Fox could make something useful out of it.

http://www.d3o.com/

Does it come in black?

[Sandouras]

Someone posted a video of this orange protective rubber being used to protect someone being hit with a shovel.

It's a substance called d3o and is developed for athletes and extreme sports enthusiasts. Have a look at the site, I'm sure Fox could make something useful out of it.

http://www.d3o.com/

Does it come in black?
Do not want. Memory cloth cape, memory cloth suit, whats next? Memory cloth batmobile?

[Citadel30]

Do not want. Memory cloth cape, memory cloth suit, whats next? Memory cloth batmobile?

sweet! lol

[Rockadood]

It would cut down on the padding needed and it's a real product. This would make it possible to produce a comic-style suit and still offer protection for the wearer.

Tempted to get some myself to go crime-fighting with!

[TheBat812]

You realize that stuff would be terribly uncomfortable and not very useful for fast movement. Plus, to have enough to actually block a bullet, you would be almost completely covered.

What you guys are missing is that it shouldn't be a more 'cloth-like' style suit just because it's like that in the comics. I'm sure Nolan first looked at some designs for a cloth-style one, but here's the ultimate question: How would a cloth-like costume be more advantageous to Batman than his one in TDK? He's got a great amount of movability with believable armor. I've yet to see a good argument for WHY they should go to a more 'faithful' approach to it.

[JBElliott]

teh puffy

http://www.photoleech.com/images/1202468798_8y5LtopVgBtzifV.jpg

[Mr. Socko]

You realize that stuff would be terribly uncomfortable and not very useful for fast movement. Plus, to have enough to actually block a bullet, you would be almost completely covered.

You realize D3O would only serve as an explanation in the film, the actual suit would not be made out of it! You know...kinda like how the batsuit in Begins was not really a normex survival suit, it's just stated to be a normex suit in the film as an explanation.

What you guys are missing is that it shouldn't be a more 'cloth-like' style suit just because it's like that in the comics. I'm sure Nolan first looked at some designs for a cloth-style one, but here's the ultimate question: How would a cloth-like costume be more advantageous to Batman than his one in TDK?
This thread is nearly 750 pages, look careful enough and I'm sure you'll find a few reasons.

He's got a great amount of movability with believable armor. I've yet to see a good argument for WHY they should go to a more 'faithful' approach to it.

Because you obviously don't want to.

[CaptainClown]

There is a valid argument for fabric though I don't care for it and have seen very few examples of how it would work

[Nightwing1977]

teh puffy


http://www.photoleech.com/images/1202468798_8y5LtopVgBtzifV.jpg


Dang!! His belt is almost reaching his chest. No wonder he look mad or whatever expression he is showing there. :p

[batsone]

thats the "your gonna pop my leg jerkoff" look

[TheBat812]

You realize D3O would only serve as an explanation in the film, the actual suit would not be made out of it! You know...kinda like how the batsuit in Begins was not really a normex survival suit, it's just stated to be a normex suit in the film as an explanation.


This thread is nearly 750 pages, look careful enough and I'm sure you'll find a few reasons.



Because you obviously don't want to.
Go ahead, convince me why I should. You're the one who has to complain, I get to see a batsuit I love.

[Mr. Socko]

Go ahead, convince me why I should. You're the one who has to complain,

Why would I bother wasting my time trying to do that. This is an internet message board, we're both intelligent enough to know that we're both here to state our opinions, not be swayed by those of others, good fellow.

I get to see a batsuit I love.


Me too, the TDK suit is pretty awesome.

[Crook]

You realize that stuff would be terribly uncomfortable and not very useful for fast movement. Plus, to have enough to actually block a bullet, you would be almost completely covered.
So...hypothetically speaking. Had Nolan chosen D30 as a basis for the movie suit, would you still be saying the same exact thing you are right now? Honestly.

I've yet to see a good argument for WHY they should go to a more 'faithful' approach to it.
A lot of times, it's all the reason you need. The adaptation of the cape and cowl look of Batman has been translated pretty fairly. And the reasoning behind that doesn't go further than being somewhat faithful to the source.

[BatScot]

What you guys are missing is that it shouldn't be a more 'cloth-like' style suit just because it's like that in the comics. I'm sure Nolan first looked at some designs for a cloth-style one, but here's the ultimate question: How would a cloth-like costume be more advantageous to Batman than his one in TDK? He's got a great amount of movability with believable armor. I've yet to see a good argument for WHY they should go to a more 'faithful' approach to it.A). a "cloth-style" suit would obviously be more mobile than the rubber TDK suit, and B). the "believable armor" of the TDK suit is just as make-believe as an armored "cloth-style" / d3o-like suit would be... that's the part you're missing. Some people seem to think that the general public are incapable of believing in anything other than something that looks like armor being armor, of course there's no proof of that. Anyway, Nolan's Wayne is a multi-billionaire with access to 'Q' and defense contracts... so he can't invent something the world has never seen before? Tony Stark can.

[Sandouras]

A). a "cloth-style" suit would obviously be more mobile than the rubber TDK suit, and B). the "believable armor" of the TDK suit is just as make-believe as an armored "cloth-style" / d3o-like suit would be... that's the part you're missing. Some people seem to think that the general public are incapable of believing in anything other than something that looks like armor being armor, of course there's no proof of that. Anyway, Nolan's Wayne is a multi-billionaire with access to 'Q' and defense contracts... so he can't invent something the world has never seen before? Tony Stark can.
No, you see after the memory cloth cape, it would be overkill to have a suit like that. People will find it ridiculous even if such a material really exists (which most people dont know). But even if you inform then, again, it would be too much.
Furthermore, you dont know how much that thing weighs so you dont know if batman is going to be any more mobile than in TDK. In fact i think that its quite heavy and it requires slow movement so that it doesnt get hard. Of course the suit isnt gonna be from it, like the BB suit is rubber and not kevlar. Besides, i dont think there will be a problem in TDK. There wasnt even a mobility issue in BB! Sure armour is gonna be heavy and stuff, but did BB give me a reason to complain about mobility? No it didnt.

In fact, TDK suit is gonna be a lot more mobile and nobody is gonna complain about its mobility. If you dislike its design, fine. If you want a comics faithful batman, fine. But dont play the mobility card.

I for one read comics and i consider TAS Batman my favourite so i could be whining about the comics suit. But i dont. I realize that a cloth suit is gonna look silly. I realize that an all black batman is the way to go in movies, since grey isnt so good looking (remember how bad Batman looked in BB when in certain scenes the suit looked grey and how awesome he looked when he was all black?) and since the underpants are gonna look stupid.
And finally, i like an armoured suit. Batman is supposed to have all sorts of armour in the comics. Its just never drawn. So i could argue that an armoured batman is more faithful to the comics.
And finally, just as long as Batman doesnt look like a log (like in B89) or ironman, and he is mobile and beastlike, i dont mind him having a hard suit. A suit that gives him a better, tougher, sturdier look. In fact just as the tumbler, i think that he should be a freaking beast, and not a dude in a pretty two coloured (cheesy) suit with his underpants on top.
TDK's concept is the best. Even if you dont like this particular suit, you gonna admit that as a concept its the best one.

[Hobodeluxe]

No, you see after the memory cloth cape, it would be overkill to have a suit like that. People will find it ridiculous even if such a material really exists (which most people dont know). But even if you inform then, again, it would be too much.
Furthermore, you dont know how much that thing weighs so you dont know if batman is going to be any more mobile than in TDK. In fact i think that its quite heavy and it requires slow movement so that it doesnt get hard. Of course the suit isnt gonna be from it, like the BB suit is rubber and not kevlar. Besides, i dont think there will be a problem in TDK. There wasnt even a mobility issue in BB! Sure armour is gonna be heavy and stuff, but did BB give me a reason to complain about mobility? No it didnt.

In fact, TDK suit is gonna be a lot more mobile and nobody is gonna complain about its mobility. If you dislike its design, fine. If you want a comics faithful batman, fine. But dont play the mobility card.

I for one read comics and i consider TAS Batman my favourite so i could be whining about the comics suit. But i dont. I realize that a cloth suit is gonna look silly. I realize that an all black batman is the way to go in movies, since grey isnt so good looking (remember how bad Batman looked in BB when in certain scenes the suit looked grey and how awesome he looked when he was all black?) and since the underpants are gonna look stupid.
And finally, i like an armoured suit. Batman is supposed to have all sorts of armour in the comics. Its just never drawn. So i could argue that an armoured batman is more faithful to the comics.
And finally, just as long as Batman doesnt look like a log (like in B89) or ironman, and he is mobile and beastlike, i dont mind him having a hard suit. A suit that gives him a better, tougher, sturdier look. In fact just as the tumbler, i think that he should be a freaking beast, and not a dude in a pretty two coloured (cheesy) suit with his underpants on top.
TDK's concept is the best. Even if you dont like this particular suit, you gonna admit that as a concept its the best one.



I'm sorry but you make a terrible argument against the cloth. It's obvious you prefer armor. Jut say so and leave it at that. Your arguments just make you look desperate. Asking someone not to use their best argument in a debate reeks of weakness in your own argument.
It would be like someone asking you not to use the "protection" angle in your own argument.
As for the statement that there was no mobility problem with the Begins suit is not true. That's the main reason the fight scenes were shot and edited as they were. Not because it made you feel like it was a "real fight" but because it looked stupid and clumsy without the editing and close in shots.

The TDK suit is more flexible and free moving but it's still looks heavy and cumbersome to me.

[Sandouras]

I'm sorry but you make a terrible argument against the cloth. It's obvious you prefer armor. Jut say so and leave it at that. Your arguments just make you look desperate. Asking someone not to use their best argument in a debate reeks of weakness in your own argument.
It would be like someone asking you not to use the "protection" angle in your own argument.
As for the statement that there was no mobility problem with the Begins suit is not true. That's the main reason the fight scenes were shot and edited as they were. Not because it made you feel like it was a "real fight" but because it looked stupid and clumsy without the editing and close in shots.

The TDK suit is more flexible and free moving but it's still looks heavy and cumbersome to me.
I dont know why the fight scenes were like this. BF had some pretty good ones. Maybe Nolan messed up. Still, if its the suit to blame, the TDK suit has solved all that. It provides good mobility and the pads dont get in the way. So were is your mobility arguement now? You want more mobility? Then we should get rid of that heavy belt and that heavy suit. He should run naked with a paper bag on his face and shave his head for even more weight loss!
/end of sarcasm.
I dont get why TDK suit isnt mobile. If the fight scenes are good, then what would be the problem? You want a cloth suit? Fine, dont call mobility issues on the TDK suit though. Not before we see them on screen at least.

And you know, i dont know how technology will advance in the future, but batman will eventually have to keep up. If people roam around with jetpacks in the future, batman has to be a step ahead. He cant be moving with grapple guns.
But for now, equipping him with protective pajamas is inane and silly. And that 3do material doesnt really work that much, or its inventor would have made billions by now.

So i guess i am the conservative one. I want a batman who doesnt rely on magic cloths. I want him to be a bada$$ crime fighter dressed as a bat with down to earth gadgets and some armour padding. And excuse me if i dont wanna look at his belly button through his cloth suit.

[BatScot]

Ah, now I get it...

If you dislike its design, fine. If you want a comics faithful batman, fine. But dont play the mobility card.

... only you and your rubber lovin' cronies:

How would a cloth-like costume be more advantageous to Batman than his one in TDK? He's got a great amount of movabilitywith believable armor

... are allowed to play the mobility card.

Well bugger that BS, I'll play the cards I'm dealt.

[regwec]

Cloth looks better and sucks less.

I win!

[bunk]

I dont know why the fight scenes were like this. BF had some pretty good ones. Maybe Nolan messed up. Still, if its the suit to blame, the TDK suit has solved all that. It provides good mobility and the pads dont get in the way. So were is your mobility arguement now? You want more mobility?

Let's at least wait until the movie comes out to make statements like these.

[Leon the Professional]

That's the main reason the fight scenes were shot and edited as they were. Not because it made you feel like it was a "real fight" but because it looked stupid and clumsy without the editing and close in shots.


Believing this does not make it true.

[BatScot]

Saying that does it make it false.

[Whirlysplat]

A lighter suit would "suit" Batman!

[Infinity9999x]

Cloth vs. Armor argument aside for a moment, I'm more disappointed with the overall look of the new suit then anything else.

I mean, with the BB suit, Nolan was very close to having the most comic accurate suit of any movie (sans the 60's series). All he had to do was

*Slim it down a bit
*Darken the Batsymbol
*Allow for more movement in the neck and head area

Had Nolan done that, we would basically have an almost perfect comic translation of the suit to screen, it just wouldn't be a fabric. But if it was slimmed down a bit, then it would almost look the same.

I don't know why Nolan didn't do this, and I'm especially annoyed with the Batsymbol on the new suit. He made it darker....then surrounded it with a strip of dark material so you still can't see it:huh:

It's too bad, because Nolan was so close to having a great looking suit, and while TDK suit isn't bad, I'm not particularly fond of it either. I expected TDK suit to be more streamlined then the BB suit, not less.

[elgaz]

I liked how in the DKR graphic novel, Batman references the fact that the bright yellow bat symbol on his chest isn't just there for decoration ..... it provides a bulletproof target which criminals will subconsciously point at if they're shooting at him (rather than the head or extremities). It would be nice if this could be incorporated into the Nolan mythos but given that a bright yellow bat symbol wouldn't tie into his realistic depiction, its unlikely.

Gaz

[Mr. Socko]

The suit could be more accurate yes, but I think it's pretty cool. I like it besides the check plates.

[teseract]

Ah, now I get it...



... only you and your rubber lovin' cronies:



... are allowed to play the mobility card.

Well bugger that BS, I'll play the cards I'm dealt.
Because, mobility is a non-issue. We are talking about a movie here. As long as the illusion of mobilty is present (like in Batman Forever) it doesn't mater lick if he couldn't move his pinky in real life.

[teseract]

Cloth looks better and sucks less.

I win!
Any proof of this? haven't seen any Batcostume yet that looks good when made of fabric.

[teseract]

Cloth vs. Armor argument aside for a moment, I'm more disappointed with the overall look of the new suit then anything else.

I mean, with the BB suit, Nolan was very close to having the most comic accurate suit of any movie (sans the 60's series).
Eh, no, the first Burton suit and the BF suit were much more comic accurate than the BB suit.

[Mr. Socko]

Eh, no, the first Burton suit and the BF suit were much more comic accurate than the BB suit.


This isn't true. They all contained the same elements. This argument could only hold for the B'89 suit as it additionally had a sculpted 6-pac, other than that, they're all on the same level of accuracy.

[Ryudoz]

actualy i think this would be the most comic book acurate look
http://web.mac.com/batinthesun/iWeb/Bat%20in%20the%20Sun%20Productions/BITS%20GALLERY_files/slideshow.html?slideIndex=20:woot:

I think that is a perfect example of why the movies don't use a 100% fabric suit. It just looks too cheesy. To think that a multi-billionaire with mounds of technology on his side would make something look that flimsy is ridiculous.

[Captain Useless]

I think that is a perfect example of why the movies don't use a 100% fabric suit. It just looks too cheesy. To think that a multi-billionaire with mounds of technology on his side would make something look that flimsy is ridiculous.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/157/nicepostvj1.jpg

It is cheesy for a billionaire playboy to run around in spandex, but kicking ass in a armor is badass.
I know the difference isn't much, but I think it's realistic that Bruce Wayne wants to protect himself so he can keep doing his job.

[Mr. Socko]

Just dressed as a bat wearing a mask with ears is cheesy you bloody heathens.

[Captain Useless]

Not in my book..

[Superhobo]

Just dressed as a bat wearing a mask with ears is cheesy you bloody heathens.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/157/nicepostvj1.jpg

:woot:

[Crook]

Just dressed as a bat wearing a mask with ears is cheesy you bloody heathens.

Not in my book..

...and that is why it will never be published.

[GoogleMe94]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/157/nicepostvj1.jpg

:woot:



looks like old man bats. its teh squishy.

[Superhobo]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/157/nicepostvj1.jpg

It is cheesy for a billionaire playboy to run around in spandex, but kicking ass in a armor is badass.

Being an athletic crime-fighter who has to jump, run, punch, swing on ropes, etc., does not translate well into loading him over with bulky armor, if you want to talk about 'realism'. Sure, minimal armor's cool (look at what they did in "Broken City"), but don't just cover him up completely. Spandex, or the material they used in the Spider-man and Superman Returns costumes, with a little bit of armor underneath is all well and good with me.

Also, check out my posts on "d3o" a few pages back.

BTW, this would be AWESOME on screen, naysayers be damned:

http://www.kolbyjukes.com/images/work/batman/Region.jpg

[Captain Useless]

...and that is why it will never be published.

:(

I had the title ready and everything..

[Nightwing1977]

actualy i think this would be the most comic book acurate look
http://web.mac.com/batinthesun/iWeb/Bat%20in%20the%20Sun%20Productions/BITS%20GALLERY_files/slideshow.html?slideIndex=20:woot:

Still suck though. I can understand some liking it, but this is a movie insipired by the comic. Not a movie that is entirely 100% same as the comics like Sin City. :p

Just dressed as a bat wearing a mask with ears is cheesy you bloody heathens.

Not cheesy as the cloth suit from the comic in real life. ;)

[Mr. Socko]

If you want someone realistically fighting crime you can tune in to reruns of NYPD Blue every Thursday at 8 on FX.

[deathfromabove]

Eh, no, the first Burton suit and the BF suit were much more comic accurate than the BB suit.

:huh: :huh: :huh:

[Prefix]

Not cheesy as the cloth suit from the comic in real life. ;)You've never seen a big-budget fabric costume on the screen, so please be quiet :up:

[Captain Useless]

You've never seen a big-budget fabric costume on the screen, so please be quiet :up:

You know, there's a big chance he's seen the Superman movies, or the fantastic 4 movies to mention a few.

[Prefix]

You know, there's a big chance he's seen the Superman movies, or the fantastic 4 movies to mention a few.
We're talking about Batman, in case you didn't notice.

[Captain Useless]

We're talking about Batman, in case you didn't notice.

My point was that there has been big-budget fabric costumes on screen before, and they usually don't look great.
I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.

[Prefix]

My point was that there has been big-budget fabric costumes on screen before, and they usually don't look great.
Spider-Man's costume was well-received and nobody complained about the F4 costumes. The Superman costume received complaints due to its colour scheme and not the material it was made of.

So I don't know what you are talking about.

[Sandouras]

I dont get why people want a cloth suit so bad. Why they keep whining and whining and whining as if its so important. As long as it looks good, does it matter? You need to go out more people!
And i dont get it especially when they call for armour pads underneath. I mean, if you re gonna dress the BB suit (or any other) with cloth, you might as well leave it at that. Its gonna look the same, but its gonna have a cloth exterior with all the creases as an added bonus.

Also, to the guy who asked for the yellow emblem and its use as a target: Pah-lease! Even powergirl has a better explanation for her costume hole! Not to mention how cheesy the old emblem is.


PS: one more arguement for rubber: When it rains, the cloth suit is gonna be soaked in water becoming heavy and cold. Where is your weight/mobility god now? :hq:

[Prefix]

I dont get why people want a cloth suit so bad. Why they keep whining and whining and whining as if its so important. As long as it looks good, does it matter? You need to go out more people!
And i dont get it especially when they call for armour pads underneath. I mean, if you re gonna dress the BB suit (or any other) with cloth, you might as well leave it at that. Its gonna look the same, but its gonna have a cloth exterior with all the creases as an added bonus.

Also, to the guy who asked for the yellow emblem and its use as a target: Pah-lease! Even powergirl has a better explanation for her costume hole! Not to mention how cheesy the old emblem is.


PS: one more arguement for rubber: When it rains, the cloth suit is gonna be soaked in water becoming heavy and cold. Where is your weight/mobility god now? :hq:
The simple answer is we don't like the rubber costumes and want an alternative more suited to our tastes. The only people making this difficult are people like you who don't want us to ask for something else.

[Captain Useless]

The simple answer is we don't like the rubber costumes and want an alternative more suited to our tastes. The only people making this difficult are people like you who don't want us to ask for something else.

Bah, just tell the truth; you love a man in spandex :grin:

[Sandouras]

Spider-Man's costume was well-received and nobody complained about the F4 costumes. The Superman costume received complaints due to its colour scheme and not the material it was made of.

So I don't know what you are talking about.
The spiderman suit was good because it almost had as much CGI as Optimus Prime. I for one didnt like singer's suit, but apart from that i always thought that superman should be more buff (like Cain looked). But of course superman doesnt wear armour. Batman should wear a bit armour. He has no superpowers to rely on. After all, he does wear armour in the comics, and i dont see a way to make a cloth cowl like in the comics.

The worst part for batman is for him to walk and behave like robocop. He should be a shadow, crawling, crouching, flying, whatever. He should be fluid. As long as he does that, what is the problem? The helmet too scary for you?


EDIT: Look here:
http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1202600437634sl5.png
When you watch the movie, do you really spend your time nitpicking the suit? Look how great it looks. It looks cool and how batman should look. A buff dude in cape. Does it matter that its kevlar (rubber?).
Dude, if i were batman, if i could have one of his suits made for me to wear, i would choose this one. I bet you wouldnt choose the pajamas either.

[Captain Useless]

The spiderman suit was good because it almost had as much CGI as Optimus Prime. I for one didnt like singer's suit, but apart from that i always thought that superman should be more buff (like Cain looked). But of course superman doesnt wear armour. Batman should wear a bit armour. He has no superpowers to rely on. After all, he does wear armour in the comics, and i dont see a way to make a cloth cowl like in the comics.

The worst part for batman is for him to walk and behave like robocop. He should be a shadow, crawling, crouching, flying, whatever. He should be fluid. As long as he does that, what is the problem? The helmet too scary for you?


EDIT: Look here:
http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1202600437634sl5.png
When you watch the movie, do you really spend your time nitpicking the suit? Look how great it looks. It looks cool and how batman should look. A buff dude in cape. Does it matter that its kevlar (rubber?).
Dude, if i were batman, if i could have one of his suits made for me to wear, i would choose this one. I bet you wouldnt choose the pajamas either.

Exactly!
And the fabric is fine in the comics, but this is about a Batman that was invented in our time, not the 1940's.
I at least find it much more fitting that in Nolan's version, Batman will use the newest and best tech to fight crime with.

[Sandouras]

Exactly!
And the fabric is fine in the comics, but this is about a Batman that was invented in our time, not the 1940's.
I at least find it much more fitting that in Nolan's version, Batman will use the newest and best tech to fight crime with.
Just as long as he doesnt end up with boosters on his boots and lazors at his palms (:im:) we're good.

[Superhobo]

Exactly!
And the fabric is fine in the comics, but this is about a Batman that was invented in our time, not the 1940's.
I at least find it much more fitting that in Nolan's version, Batman will use the newest and best tech to fight crime with.

Well, technically, if they were really going that approach, Batman'd be wearing this:

http://www.primidi.com/images/d3o_spyder_suit.jpg

http://dhreno.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/d30.jpg


D3o is a new, lightweight spandex-like material that hardens upon impact, due to its utilization of "intelligent molecules." It's been called, among other things, a "real-life Batsuit."

[lixdexia]

Well, technically, if they were really going that approach, Batman'd be wearing this:

http://www.primidi.com/images/d3o_spyder_suit.jpg

http://dhreno.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/d30.jpg


D3o is a new, lightweight spandex-like material that hardens upon impact, due to its utilization of "intelligent molecules." It's been called, among other things, a "real-life Batsuit."
that'd work great for an undersuit, but he'd still need some thicker plating given that he's vulnerable to...y'know bullets and knives and stuff:oldrazz:

[Superhobo]

that'd work great for an undersuit, but he'd still need some thicker plating given that he's vulnerable to...y'know bullets and knives and stuff:oldrazz:


Well, I was trying to make a point.

[lixdexia]

Well, I was trying to make a point.
and i was pointing out the flaws:yay: yes he'd probably wear that (i know i'd like to get some) but he'd need to wear more than just that, if we're going with a realistic approach

[Superhobo]

and i was pointing out the flaws:yay: yes he'd probably wear that (i know i'd like to get some) but he'd need to wear more than just that, if we're going with a realistic approach

What flaws? I said, if they were going to go with the best technology available, then Batman would wear that. You're saying he'd wear more than just that. Okay. What's the problem, here? :huh:

[Captain Useless]

Well, technically, if they were really going that approach, Batman'd be wearing this:

http://www.primidi.com/images/d3o_spyder_suit.jpg

http://dhreno.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/d30.jpg


D3o is a new, lightweight spandex-like material that hardens upon impact, due to its utilization of "intelligent molecules." It's been called, among other things, a "real-life Batsuit."

:wow: I want one of those!!!
"Does it come in black?"

[Infinity9999x]

Eh, no, the first Burton suit and the BF suit were much more comic accurate than the BB suit.

I said was very close, not that it was the most comic accurate in looks. And like others said, it could be argued either way.

Had Nolan simply darkened the batsymbol on the chest and slimmed the suit down a bit though, then it would have been hands down the most comic accurate in looks.

[Mr. Socko]

I said was very close, not that it was the most comic accurate in looks. And like others said, it could be argued either way.

Had Nolan simply darkened the batsymbol on the chest and slimmed the suit down a bit though, then it would have been hands down the most comic accurate in looks.

And if Schumacher had made the suit grey with tights then it would have been hands down the most comic accurate in looks.

The "if they had done this or that" doesn't really hold much as it can be applied to all of them.

[namtaB]

Well, technically, if they were really going that approach, Batman'd be wearing this:

http://www.primidi.com/images/d3o_spyder_suit.jpg

http://dhreno.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/d30.jpg


D3o is a new, lightweight spandex-like material that hardens upon impact, due to its utilization of "intelligent molecules." It's been called, among other things, a "real-life Batsuit."

Even Ted Nugent wouldn't wear that!

[Superhobo]

Even Ted Nugent wouldn't wear that!


:huh:

[Mr. Socko]

^Besides the Bolland-esque shoulder pads, I like it.

[WalterKovacs]

batman = same as superman and spider-man, even though superman and spider-man have superpowers and thus dont need armor.

wait...

[WalterKovacs]

Being an athletic crime-fighter who has to jump, run, punch, swing on ropes, etc., does not translate well into loading him over with bulky armor, if you want to talk about 'realism'. Sure, minimal armor's cool (look at what they did in "Broken City"), but don't just cover him up completely. Spandex, or the material they used in the Spider-man and Superman Returns costumes, with a little bit of armor underneath is all well and good with me.

Also, check out my posts on "d3o" a few pages back.

BTW, this would be AWESOME on screen, naysayers be damned:

http://www.kolbyjukes.com/images/work/batman/Region.jpg
http://www.codysortore.com/images/epic.jpg

[Mr. Socko]

That mentally retarded looking fellow in your avvy makes all of your posts seem 100x funnier dear Walt:funny:

The trunks wont work for Batman on-screen. They just look ridiculous.


Nevah panties ftw!

[WalterKovacs]

That mentally retarded looking fellow in your avvy makes all of your posts seem 100x funnier dear Walt:funny:


Aww, shucks :oldrazz:

And for the record, hes not a mentally retarded fellow. He's a baby with facial hair. :ninja:

[Superhobo]

http://www.codysortore.com/images/epic.jpg

What's wrong with it, exactly? Enlighten me.

[Superhobo]

batman = same as superman and spider-man, even though superman and spider-man have superpowers and thus dont need armor.

wait...

Technically, Spidey could use some armor too, if we're going that route. Say Venom (or one of the various others who can negate his spidey-sense) decides to just get a gun and shoot him, one day. His spidey-sense ain't gonna tell him; god, Spidey's so unrealistic! :cmad:

Oh, wait. Duh.



;)

[WalterKovacs]

What's wrong with it, exactly? Enlighten me.
I thought you'd never ask. :oldrazz:

Well, wether or not it looks good onscreen, batman is completely different from superman and spider-man in the most obvious way: he has no powers. He has to scare them right at the start, and the criminal has to think something more than "Im being fought by a guy with a cape who coincidentally can fight like a ninja" but rather "well, I'm being fought by a giant humanoid demon-bat, I'm f***ed. Anyone else soiled themselves yet?"

And aside from that, Batman has to fight people who represent very real physical threats. Knives, guns, lasers, canons, poon tang, acid, water, harpoons, etc. You name it, Batman's been up against it. And He doesn't have the spider-sense of incoming danger, or the ability to swing away from it and land on a wall. He isnt bulletproof, not can he fly away from things. He's facing these threats head-on. He has to be scary, threatening, and powerful, and physically tough.

At the end of Batman: Dead end, its a wonder he got anywhere at all wearing armor about as protective as a book-sock, and hes a bloody pulp by the end of it. Maybe It wouldnt be a dead end it he werent wearing nothing but underwear.

And dont even tell me about realism, and that he has to be able to run and jump, because when you have thick rubber around your head and ears like you do when you wear the bat cowl, your peripheral vision is cut off. you're sweaty, you hear yourself breathe, you get dizzy, hot, and the headaches are the worst. And thats Just with a rubber batman cowl I got at a party store.

Also, swat team members arent really restricted by the armor they wear. They can run and jump and break down doors without wearing spandex.

[WalterKovacs]

Technically, Spidey could use some armor too, if we're going that route. Say Venom (or one of the various others who can negate his spidey-sense) decides to just get a gun and shoot him, one day. His spidey-sense ain't gonna tell him; god, Spidey's so unrealistic! :cmad:

Oh, wait. Duh.



;)
Well, he has heightened hearing, so he would probably hear venom cocking the gun (I'm entertaining the concept that hed even use a gun) and swing away.

Or he'd hear the bullet coming out of the gun which would let off his spidey sense, and hed jump the hell out of the way.

[LegendaryCaleb]

What's wrong with it, exactly? Enlighten me.
I thought it would look great on screen...Im a supporter of a costume like that...
But i certainly dont mind the one we got in TDK

[C. Lee]

I thought you'd never ask. :oldrazz:

Well, wether or not it looks good onscreen, batman is completely different from superman and spider-man in the most obvious way: he has no powers. He has to scare them right at the start, and the criminal has to think something more than "Im being fought by a guy with a cape who coincidentally can fight like a ninja" but rather "well, I'm being fought by a giant humanoid demon-bat, I'm f***ed. Anyone else soiled themselves yet?"

That may have worked once in 1939.....but how many people today are really going to think they are being attacked by a giant demon bat?

[WalterKovacs]

I hate everyone. I hate everything. Nothing can please me.

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right?

[Superhobo]

I thought you'd never ask. :oldrazz:

Well, wether or not it looks good onscreen, batman is completely different from superman and spider-man in the most obvious way: he has no powers. He has to scare them right at the start, and the criminal has to think something more than "Im being fought by a guy with a cape who coincidentally can fight like a ninja" but rather "well, I'm being fought by a giant humanoid demon-bat, I'm f***ed. Anyone else soiled themselves yet?"

So, you're saying that it's impossible for that illusion to be created with spandex and tights?




And aside from that, Batman has to fight people who represent very real physical threats. Knives, guns, lasers, canons, poon tang, acid, water, harpoons, etc. You name it, Batman's been up against it. And He doesn't have the spider-sense of incoming danger, or the ability to swing away from it and land on a wall. He isnt bulletproof, not can he fly away from things. He's facing these threats head-on. He has to be scary, threatening, and powerful, and physically tough.

O...kay? Yes, duh. Of course he does. That doesn't mean he has to wear rubb-sorry, a "Nomex and Kevlar bi-weave." You're correct; he has no powers. He's also a fictional character. Point?


At the end of Batman: Dead end, its a wonder he got anywhere at all wearing armor about as protective as a book-sock, and hes a bloody pulp by the end of it. Maybe It wouldnt be a dead end it he werent wearing underwear.

Wait. You want Batman to go commando?

http://www.geocities.com/bmpforever/302townoonesready5.jpg


And dont even tell me about realism, and that he has to be able to run and jump, because when you have thick rubber around your head and ears like you do when you wear the bat cowl, your peripheral vision is cut off. you're sweaty, you hear yourself breathe, you get dizzy, hot, and the headaches are the worst. And thats Just with a rubber batman cowl I got at a party store.

Okay, so why should this aspect of the suit be any more 'realistic' than the cowl, if we're going by this train of thought?

Also, swat team members arent really restricted by the armor they wear. They can run and jump and break down doors without wearing spandex.

SWAT Member:
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2434234/2/istockphoto_2434234_swat_team_member_in_action.jpg

Good, uh...comparison? :dry:

[Superhobo]

That may have worked once in 1939.....but how many people today are really going to think they are being attacked by a giant demon bat?

Ahah, true.

[C. Lee]

And has anyone considered this......it's a sci fi comic book fantasy movie....have him dress in suit that looks like the comics, but say that it is special flexible armour invented by Wayne Industries.

[Superhobo]

And has anyone considered this......it's a sci fi comic book fantasy movie....have him dress in suit that looks like the comics, but say that it is special flexible armour invented by Wayne Industries.

Or, "d3o," as I've been parroting for the last page and a half. What's the problem, right?

[joke]

C. Lee, apparently that's impossible for people to wrap their heads around. When Batman's surrounded by 20 pounds of rubber, it's "realistic" and gives the feel of armor, but when he's dressed in cloth with good texture and has a bodysuit in certain places to bring out muscle definition, it's completely absurd and unrealistic and he'd die right away!

It doesn't matter whether it's a movie and make-believe, he has to have 20 pounds of rubber so that it looks more like armor! Sure, movies are mostly a visual feast for eyes, but goddamn, they don't have to show characters go to the toilet for people to think they do..