The Elseworlds you wanna see.

[Roughneck]

Or are surprized we haven't seen yet.

Include who you would want to write and draw if you want.



I would like an Elseworld where Kal-El is found and raised by Thomas and Martha Wayne.

Basically Batman with Superman's powers.

[Green Lantern]

Or are surprized we haven't seen yet.

Include who you would want to write and draw if you want.



I would like an Elseworld where Kal-El is found and raised by Thomas and Martha Wayne.

Basically Batman with Superman's powers.Been done. Speeding Bullets back in the early 90s

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/84351517082.1.GIF

[Union Jack]

cool :eek: i want to read that one!

[That-Guy]

Speeding Bullets was AWESOME. Probably my favorite Elseworlds. For some reason I was stupid and sold it back when I was hurting for cash... I've got to find another copy. Superman-as-Batman was a kickass idea... he's borderline PSYCHO through the majority of the story too. The only thing I felt was a little underdeveloped was the Lex plot, but there's only so much you can put into a one-shot, I suppose. I HIGHLY recommend this story.

[Darthphere]

An elseworld where we get all the Charlton comic characters in a Watchmen like story like they were supposed to be.

[The Question]

Well, why retread The Watchmen again? It was fine as it was.


Anyway, I'd like to see an Elseworlds where all the major DC characters are regarded as nothing moe than urban myth, and Snapper Carr is investigating them Fox Mulder style.

[Varient]

Or are surprized we haven't seen yet.

Include who you would want to write and draw if you want.



I would like an Elseworld where Kal-El is found and raised by Thomas and Martha Wayne.

Basically Batman with Superman's powers.
Elsewheres story where superman has a harem.
(I know,..I know.)

It's just easier for me to accept the concept that there are women out there who can't be satisfied by most men on the planet,.. so they would willingly put themselves under Superman.

Lois wouldn't stand a chance.


(Yeah,..Yeah,.. my "Lois Hate" has surfaced again.)

[cerealkiller182]

Anyway, I'd like to see an Elseworlds where all the major DC characters are regarded as nothing moe than urban myth, and Snapper Carr is investigating them Fox Mulder style.

Thats an sweet idea.

[TheBlueWolf]

I want an Elseworlds where Batman and Wonder Woman are married. Also one where Bruce Wayne becomes a Green Lantern. Hmm...I also want to see a hot one, with Supergirl and Wonder Woman in a relationship...with special cameos from POWERGIRL and BLACK CANARY...and POISON IVY, maybe call it Basic Instincts... ;-)

[Fantastic Fan22]

I want an Elseworlds where Batman and Wonder Woman are married. Also one where Bruce Wayne becomes a Green Lantern. Hmm...I also want to see a hot one, with Supergirl and Wonder Woman in a relationship...with special cameos from POWERGIRL and BLACK CANARY...and POISON IVY, maybe call it Basic Instincts... ;-)

Well of those......all very...interesting, I think the one where Bruce becomes a Green Lantern is one already. I believe its called In Darkest Night.

[Green Lantern]

Well of those......all very...interesting, I think the one where Bruce becomes a Green Lantern is one already. I believe its called In Darkest Night.Yup
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/08227908840.1.GIF

[TheBlueWolf]

Woah, how the heck did I miss that Darkest Night run??? Damn, I have to own that book immediately, I am going to go look for it on E-BAY. Since we are on the Elseworld subject, is there like a list or something out there, that shows what the different Elseworlds are called and such??? Because I have not seen this one before, which leads me to wonder, what other ones I have missed. Who knows, maybe they've already done a Supergirl and Wonder Woman forbidden love affair!

[TheBlueWolf]

Also, I would like to see one where Superman has married Supergirl, and they are having a race of Super Super Humans, trying to re-populate a Krypton type planet or something, but things go horribly wrong. NO, it is not incest, because technically they are not really first cousins or anything...but it makes since, because they are both essentially Kryptonians...so it would make since that they would want to re-foster their race. Wouldn't it???

[Green Lantern]

http://www.io.com/~woodward/chroma/atelsew.html

[Varient]

Also, I would like to see one where Superman has married Supergirl, and they are having a race of Super Super Humans, trying to re-populate a Krypton type planet or something, but things go horribly wrong. NO, it is not incest, because technically they are not really first cousins or anything...but it makes since, because they are both essentially Kryptonians...so it would make since that they would want to re-foster their race. Wouldn't it???


It's the part of the Superman Mythos that doesn't make sense.

That if you WERE the last of your kind,.... and then your "Cousin" shows up onscene,...

That one or both of you wouldn't have broached the topic is insane.

Then with the shrunken city of Kandor???? If he and others can return to full size,.. why hasn't he taken the city to Mars or Venus and just enlarged it?

[Brian Braddock]

How about one where infact Kal-el is found by Lex's parents and raised as his brother; that would be interesting.............

[Roughneck]

So.....I've got to read Speeding Bullet and Darkest Knight.......What was the one where Superman was a Lantern.

[Fledermaus]

http://www.io.com/~woodward/chroma/atelsew.html

nice.

[RockSP]

I want to see a continutation of the JSA files or whatever they were called with Jolly and Harris.

[Fledermaus]

Are you talking about The Unholy 3 and the Liberty Files? If so, I agree wholeheartedly, those were great.

[RockSP]

Yep that's what I was talking about.

[GoldenAgeHero]

is batman in darkest knight a good read?

[King Ruler]

Anyway, I'd like to see an Elseworlds where all the major DC characters are regarded as nothing moe than urban myth, and Snapper Carr is investigating them Fox Mulder style.

I'd tell you I love but I ain't that kinda guy.

Me, I'd like to see an Elseworld's where Batman is a villain, like a crimelord.

[Fledermaus]

I think in "Catwoman Guardian of Gotham" Batman is a bad guy.

[Hush]

I want to see an Elseworlds were like Luthor or somebody has taken over the world and all the superheros were still kids when it happened and like they all operate in like "cells" of heroes. In Metropolis and Gotham and they have to take out the villians that rule over there cities and stuff and they have to win back the world city by city, so its like the "Poor mans" JLA I think it would be neat.

[The Leaguer]

I want to see an Elseworlds where Superman has long hair, possibly a mullet.

[Harlekin]

I want to see an Elseworlds where Superman has long hair, possibly a mullet.
We don't need an Elseworlds for that. He came back from the dead with one.

[The Leaguer]

Harl...

[Harlekin]

Harl...
Yes, dear?

[The Leaguer]

Come back to bed!

[Harlekin]

Come back to bed!
Sorry, hon.

[cerealkiller182]

What about an elseworlds where Krypton never expoled. Zod rules Krypton with an iron fist and sends his best general, Kal-El against the other planets to annex them to Zod's domain. Each world has a different colored sun granting KAl-El with a different power. When he reaches Mars, the yellow sun gives him all the powers at once so he becomes power hungry. His next stop is Earth. Kal-El knows of the a group trying to stop him and lets them so he can have a greater challenge.

But a team of heroes emboding the last of each of their alien races comes to Earth to tell the heroes:

GL Hal Jordan: Earth native and highest ranking Green Lantern. Leaves duty on Oa to lead the new heroes to Earth.
Hawkgirl: Raised as a soldier on Thanagar. The perfect soldier.
Orion: Raised on New Genesis. The perfect soldier
Lobo: Super powered scumbag of Czarinian. Found nobility in fighting the Kryptonites. Keeps his sense of toilet humor.
Martian Manhunter: Last of the Martians. Powerful psychic and shape shifter. KNows how to stop the Krptonites but is in coma due to recent attack.

These aliens team up with Earth's greatest heroes:
Aquaman and his wife, Wonder Woman: Both claim to be the King of atlantis and Princess of the Amazons. No body believes them but they due bring results. Aquaman has the real Superman's persona.
Batman: Know only has urban myth in Gotham City. He finally makes himself known in order to stop the aliens. He is accompanied by a boy genius and acrobat, Robin.
Flash: Fastest man on the planet. Same as real Flash.

Kal-El is actually going against Zod's wishes of destroying planets rather than annexing them so Zod makes a move to stop him, but its a long jounrey from Krypton to Earth.

[That-Guy]

is batman in darkest knight a good read?


No. At least, I didn't think so. I think the problem is while Batman and Green Lantern are both excellent concepts, when they are merged together, they both lose something. At least I think they did here. Maybe if the writing and the art had been better... but personally, I've always found GL (Hal, Kyle or other) more interesting when he's off in some distant galaxy battling some cosmic bad guy. When ever he's just on Earth flying around, its kinda dull. So when you think that Batman is the type of guy whose world is Gotham-centric, well... you can see why I, at least, didn't like this story.

[Silverstein]

So Elseworld's is What if? right? And they did Kal-El as Batman? Well what about Bruce Wayne as Superman?

So Earth is deemed too sinful by higher powers...And the Spectre begins destroying the world except for when he gets to Gotham, he is aware of Bruce Wayne and his parents. They are the only good beings in the whole city, and since his parents have been shot and are dying, The Spectre sends Bruce to another planet..

A planet which, in elserealm, never was destroyed. Krypton.

And then Bruce Wayne is found by Jor-El and raised along side Kal-El, and is renamed B-Wel or something. But because he is weaker than everyone, Jor-El gives him access to lots of technology and has him tutored and things far above and beyond he put Kal-EL. So B-Wel uses his skills and such to become a champion of justice.

Having never experienced the "Bat" thing...He uses the "S" to represent himself and becomes "Superman". Something like that.

[That-Guy]

So Elseworld's is What if? right? And they did Kal-El as Batman? Well what about Bruce Wayne as Superman?

So Earth is deemed too sinful by higher powers...And the Spectre begins destroying the world except for when he gets to Gotham, he is aware of Bruce Wayne and his parents. They are the only good beings in the whole city, and since his parents have been shot and are dying, The Spectre sends Bruce to another planet..

A planet which, in elserealm, never was destroyed. Krypton.

And then Bruce Wayne is found by Jor-El and raised along side Kal-El, and is renamed B-Wel or something. But because he is weaker than everyone, Jor-El gives him access to lots of technology and has him tutored and things far above and beyond he put Kal-EL. So B-Wel uses his skills and such to become a champion of justice.

Having never experienced the "Bat" thing...He uses the "S" to represent himself and becomes "Superman". Something like that.


Cool concept but it's pretty much been done... except it wasn't with Bruce Wayne. In "Last Son of Earth" (I think that's what it was called), young Clark Kent is a human who is sent to Krypton moments before Earth explodes. Once there, it is discovered that he can only survive on this planet with the help of Jor-El's technology.

[Union Jack]

i'd like to see a decent elseworld of if superman crash landed in britain.
cos the superman:true brit is the most godawful pile of crap ive ever read.

maybe have him land during world war one or something..make him kinda captain america-ish(but british!)

or maybe an elseworld where batman fell in the acid that created the joker and have him be like a nutcase batman.

or a what if darkseid gained dominion over earth.

or maybe a DC zombies..maybe DC vampires or werewolves or something!

[Speedball]

has there been an elseworlds with a medieval Justice League?
or maybe one where Superman lands in the marvel universe?

[Assassin]

Batman and V team up..

[Speedball]

^that would kick ass, Batman would have to be in his fifties for that. but that wont stop him. The Dark Knight series by Frank Miller is very similar to V for Vendetta, at least to me.

[Anubis]

A book where Superman lands on Thymiscara and is raised by the Amazons.

[RockSP]

^that would kick ass, Batman would have to be in his fifties for that.

Since it would be an Elseworld he wouldn't "have" to be any particular age.

[Assassin]

yea, true brit was garbage..i want my 20 min i spent reading it in boarders back (my friend was next door buying shoes)

[nite-owl]

A book where Superman lands on Thymiscara and is raised by the Amazons.

Thats a good idea. Anyway my would be about what if Batman and Superman grew up together.

[Brian Braddock]

i'd like to see a decent elseworld of if superman crash landed in britain.
cos the superman:true brit is the most godawful pile of crap ive ever read.

maybe have him land during world war one or something..make him kinda captain america-ish(but british!)

or maybe an elseworld where batman fell in the acid that created the joker and have him be like a nutcase batman.

or a what if darkseid gained dominion over earth.

or maybe a DC zombies..maybe DC vampires or werewolves or something!


WOW - I'll be honest and say I'd never even heard of 'True Brit' - I've just read a review at :-

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/reviews/109906873433766.htm

and saw it was co-written by John Cleese ( WTF?! ) and drawn by John Byrne (his artwork really declined in the last few years) - so i'm not surprised that it's garbage. I think i'll give it a miss.


How about an elseworlds story where Bruce's parents never got shot, and he never became Batman but Luthor (as I kinda see him as Bruce Wayne gone bad) becomes a vigilante ala Batman?

[supes_el]

A book where Superman lands on Thymiscara and is raised by the Amazons.

cool idea here...easy to make him and WW fall in love too..just like Elseworlds always do anyway

[UK_Stu]

WOW - I'll be honest and say I'd never even heard of 'True Brit' - I've just read a review at :-

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/reviews/109906873433766.htm

and saw it was co-written by John Cleese ( WTF?! ) and drawn by John Byrne (his artwork really declined in the last few years) - so i'm not surprised that it's garbage. I think i'll give it a miss.


How about an elseworlds story where Bruce's parents never got shot, and he never became Batman but Luthor (as I kinda see him as Bruce Wayne gone bad) becomes a vigilante ala Batman?

Actually True Brit isn't a bad read, but you need to to be British to really appreciate(understand) a lot of the humour. And you really need to forget everything you already know about Superman and read it like that

[That-Guy]

I'd like to see an Elseworlds that doesn't really follow any kind of concept, other than just being a really, really whacked out story, like if Mulholland Drive had been a comic book. Something like this:

JLA:WTF

Kal-El's ship crash lands in New Jersey in a car graveyard. The people who own the junkyard raise Kal-El (now named Kent Clarkson), and he becomes a huge car buff and eventually an automechanic. When he eventually gains superpowers, he finds that super-strength is very beneficial because he no longer needs to use a jack to work underneath a car. However, Kent doesn't like flying; he prefers to drive around in his Shelby Cobra Mustang.
Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne (whose parents were never murdered) decides to take up acting, so he bribes a bunch of Hollywood producers Paris Hilton-style to get him cast in some high-profile films. Unfortunately, Bruce is a terrible actor and becomes the laughing stock of the nation, topping #1 on the E! Channel's "Celebrity OOPS!" list for the year. Depressed, Bruce decides to give superheroism a go, but since he has no training, he quickly gets his spine broken and spends the rest of his life confined to a wheelchair. However, this does not stop Bruce in his quest. He pays world renowned scientist and inventor Lex Luthor to build him a pair of robotic legs that will allow him to fight crime again. Lex does so, and soon Bruce returns to a life of vigilanteism, hunting down criminals with the help of his superpowered, armored robot legs. He calls himself "The Asskicker."
Diana, meanwhile, has left Paradise Island to become a stripper in L.A. She eventually becomes addicted to coke, thanks to one of her regular customers, drug dealer Max Lord. Evntually Diana realizes that her life has become a giant mess, so she snaps Max's neck and checks into rehab. There she meats a bunch of other super-powered junkies, including J'onn Jonnz, Barry Allen, and Arthur Curry. Once they are all detoxed, they decide to band together and form a superhero team. Everything is going great until they raid a Columbian drug farm and decide that drug dealing is more profitable (and more fun) than superheroism, so they take over the cocaine farm and spend the rest of their lives wealthy and coked up.

[Brian Braddock]

Actually True Brit isn't a bad read, but you need to to be British to really appreciate(understand) a lot of the humour. And you really need to forget everything you already know about Superman and read it like that

I might give it a read - as long as it's not just full of English stereotypes - thats one thing I cant stand in comics!! :mad:

[UK_Stu]

I might give it a read - as long as it's not just full of English stereotypes - thats one thing I cant stand in comics!! :mad:

Well , there a few of those but its done deliberately - most of the writers/contributors are British and a lot of the book is just taking the p**s out of the whole sterotype thing. Which is why a few non- Brits might not get all the jokes

[Brian Braddock]

Well , there a few of those but its done deliberately - most of the writers/contributors are British and a lot of the book is just taking the p**s out of the whole sterotype thing. Which is why a few non- Brits might not get all the jokes


Cool - although I have contradicted myself - I remember a character in 'Justice League Europe' back in the day called 'the Beefeater' (ironically styled after Cleese in 'Fawlty Towers') and laughed myself silly at some of the stuff he did.

Ah, memories........

[That-Guy]

How about this for an Elseworlds...

Shortly before Krypton is going to be destroyed, Zod kidnaps Lara and Kal-El and forces Jor-El to build him a spacecraft to take him to Earth along with the Eradicator device (in order to help him build a new Krypton on Earth). Jor-el obliges, but Zod kills Kal-El and Lara anyway, and then goes to kill Jor-El. The two battle, with the end result being Jor-El sending Zod to the Phantom Zone, but is mortally wounded and dies, and the Eradicator is accidentally sent off on its own to Earth.
Once it crash lands on Earth, the Eradicator lies dormant for 20 years or so before it is discovered by a team of archaeolgists. It eventually begins effect the mind and body of the one of the team and attempts to turn the world into a new Krypton. Eventually though, the Eradicator's exposure to humanity allows it to experience emotions and it realizes that what is attempting to do is wrong. So the Eradicator and its host become a hero... right about the time Zod breaks out of the Phantom Zone and comes to Earth.

[Assassin]

Actually True Brit isn't a bad read, but you need to to be British to really appreciate(understand) a lot of the humour. And you really need to forget everything you already know about Superman and read it like that

and u actually have to give a damn about the British..



:p

[Assassin]

I'd like to see an Elseworlds that doesn't really follow any kind of concept, other than just being a really, really whacked out story, like if Mulholland Drive had been a comic book. Something like this:

JLA:WTF

Kal-El's ship crash lands in New Jersey in a car graveyard. The people who own the junkyard raise Kal-El (now named Kent Clarkson), and he becomes a huge car buff and eventually an automechanic. When he eventually gains superpowers, he finds that super-strength is very beneficial because he no longer needs to use a jack to work underneath a car. However, Kent doesn't like flying; he prefers to drive around in his Shelby Cobra Mustang.
Meanwhile, Bruce Wayne (whose parents were never murdered) decides to take up acting, so he bribes a bunch of Hollywood producers Paris Hilton-style to get him cast in some high-profile films. Unfortunately, Bruce is a terrible actor and becomes the laughing stock of the nation, topping #1 on the E! Channel's "Celebrity OOPS!" list for the year. Depressed, Bruce decides to give superheroism a go, but since he has no training, he quickly gets his spine broken and spends the rest of his life confined to a wheelchair. However, this does not stop Bruce in his quest. He pays world renowned scientist and inventor Lex Luthor to build him a pair of robotic legs that will allow him to fight crime again. Lex does so, and soon Bruce returns to a life of vigilanteism, hunting down criminals with the help of his superpowered, armored robot legs. He calls himself "The Asskicker."
Diana, meanwhile, has left Paradise Island to become a stripper in L.A. She eventually becomes addicted to coke, thanks to one of her regular customers, drug dealer Max Lord. Evntually Diana realizes that her life has become a giant mess, so she snaps Max's neck and checks into rehab. There she meats a bunch of other super-powered junkies, including J'onn Jonnz, Barry Allen, and Arthur Curry. Once they are all detoxed, they decide to band together and form a superhero team. Everything is going great until they raid a Columbian drug farm and decide that drug dealing is more profitable (and more fun) than superheroism, so they take over the cocaine farm and spend the rest of their lives wealthy and coked up.

Worst, episode, EVER!

[Anubis]

I'd like to see a old world shattering adventure starring that Bronze Age League that was in Kelly's Obsidian Age. Really would like to see those characters again.

[The Leaguer]

That would kick ass, actually. That team was really interesting, and I would particularly like to see Whaler and Tezumek's characters fleshed out.

[That-Guy]

Worst, episode, EVER!

It wasn't a serious post, dude.

[blksuperman2]

I want to see a sequel to The Kingdom. I wanna know what kind of powers a son of Kal-El and Diana would have.

[Anubis]

Everything Superman has plus a possible natural resistance to magic.

[The Question]

Didn't the Kingdom reveal that the son of Diana and Clark from that eventually went back in time and became the Phantom Stranger?

[Anubis]

Wow, the Kingdom must have really sucked. The Phatom Stranger is a fallen angel. Or rather an angle kicked out of both heaven and hell.

[blksuperman2]

Didn't the Kingdom reveal that the son of Diana and Clark from that eventually went back in time and became the Phantom Stranger?

You're right he did show up in the end. But I don't remember him being the Phantom Stranger. He had powers to traverse all of Hypertime or something. Now I have to go back and reread it.

[That-Guy]

No, their son isn't the Phantom Stranger. He just looks like him to some degree. But if I remember right, Diana even says "For a minute there, I thought you were the Phantom Stranger, but I was wrong" or something to that effect.

But yes, The Kingdom did suck. It sucked long and it sucked hard. It was to Kingdom Come what The Dark Knight Strikes Again is to The Dark Knight Returns, only worse.

[blksuperman2]

Well I didn't think it sucked. It didn't have that epic feel that Kingdom COme had but it had it's moments. Every panel with GOG in it rocked. He owned everyone. Including the Flash who at his level was so fast that he existed in another dimension.

[Fledermaus]

That would kick ass, actually. That team was really interesting, and I would particularly like to see Whaler and Tezumek's characters fleshed out.

I agree those were very interesting characters.

[BlackOpsTengu]

"Wow, the Kingdom must have really sucked. The Phatom Stranger is a fallen angel. Or rather an angle kicked out of both heaven and hell."

Or he could be the Wandering Jew, or a survivor of a previous multiverse. :D

Thank God for wikipedia! I'd never be able to keep up on this stuff otherwise.

[Anubis]

With comics, as with life, you stick with the line of bulls**t you perfur and let that be your truth.

[That-Guy]

My favorite Phantom Stranger origin was the one where he was a father who lived in Biblical times and watched his family and friends succumb to greed and evil. He eventually kills himself and it pisses off an angel who sort of curses him to walk the earth alone, with no past memory of his life and no one from his past life remembers him. He meets his family later on and they don't even remember who he is, nor does he remember them. It was in a book that had 4 possible origins for PS. The fallen angel and Wandering Jew one were in there, along with a really stupid one where he's some guy in the future who looks like Clark Kent and he's watching the end of time through a monitor and transports himself back to the beginning or something.

[RAMORE]

Yeah speeding bullets was one of the greatest elseworlds ever.

i'd like to see an elseworlds where after bane broke batman nightwing takes over and eventually is driven over the edge and azrael has to reign him in. Only he can't finish the job cause dick rocks so he cripples azrael. then bruce comes back and tries to stop him and every bad feeling that ever happened comes up dick kills bruce. Only to have it revealed that alfred was the one masterminding the whole thing because he felt cheated adn under appreciated. Dick adn him die in a final conflict. Tim drake takes over as batman with azrael training from his wheelchair and tim wearing an amalgam costume of batman beyond and robin kind of.

[Union Jack]

Actually True Brit isn't a bad read, but you need to to be British to really appreciate(understand) a lot of the humour. And you really need to forget everything you already know about Superman and read it like that


I do disagree with that i am english as you can get and that comic was about as crap as any comic can ever get...i absolutely hate HATE the stupid stereotype of tea and bleedin crumpets,cricket and all that crap...superman if he landed here should have been dealt with the same way it was if he landed in russia as in red son.
I can honestly say as an englishman and a massive superman fan that true brit was the worst thing ive ever read and should be avoided by all like the plague.

needless to say i didn't like it at all...i actually took it back and got my money back i hated it that much..



i would like to see maybe a superman:the end...if handled properly...maybe his ending be actually not to die but to live on as a god forever more,that could be a great read.

[The Question]

I do disagree with that i am english as you can get and that comic was about as crap as any comic can ever get...i absolutely hate HATE the stupid stereotype of tea and bleedin crumpets,cricket and all that crap...superman if he landed here should have been dealt with the same way it was if he landed in russia as in red son.
I can honestly say as an englishman and a massive superman fan that true brit was the worst thing ive ever read and should be avoided by all like the plague.

It was a parody. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. They were making fun of British steriotypes. I mean, it was written by John Cleese for God's sake. What'd you expect?

i would like to see maybe a superman:the end...if handled properly...maybe his ending be actually not to die but to live on as a god forever more,that could be a great read.

They basically did that in JLA: One Million.

[Lorendiac]

Here's one I posted about a year ago on DC's own boards. I don't think I ever bothered to post it anywhere else. Don't remember why not.

Sometime in 2004, someone on DC's old "Elseworlds" board said something that got me thinking about the following question:

"What if the Silver Age JLA had been almost entirely black instead of almost entirely white?"

(And remember: In the original version, the one guy who didn't look white in the SA JLA was a green-skinned Martian instead.)

I started fooling around with the idea in my head . . .

If most of the SA heroes who were particularly powerful had been dark-skinned for one reason or another (in Superman's case, it would definitely NOT mean that he had tons of African ancestry in his family tree :)), it would have made an interesting situation if we arbitrarily assume that it was happening back in the 1960s, when the early issues of the JLA were actually published in our world and the civil rights movement and all that was suddenly hitting its stride.

Of course, if the heavy hitters of the Silver Age JLA had all (or almost all) looked African-American (even if one or two of them were from other planets and it was sheer coincidence), and if they had met while fighting alien invaders from Appelax, and had banded together so they could face future Big Threats as a team, then other Americans (white, black, prejudiced, unprejudiced) would have seen them as being an exclusive, "segregated" group that obviously only took black men and women.

If that wasn't what they had in mind, and if most of the best powers had gone to black people by pure chance as far as anyone knew at the time, then the JLAers might have quickly invited one or two costumed white people to join as the "tokens" representing racial diversity.

Batman and/or Black Canary, maybe. Batman, of course, doesn't have powers at all. The Canary, of course, had a screaming power but wasn't able to move superfast or move mountains with her hands, so she too might feel like a weaker outsider compared to all the others. (Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern in particular.) Accepting them would be meant to "prove" to their public that high-powered white superheroes of the current generation were not being excluded, there just didn't seem to be many to choose from! It was pure luck of the draw that black people had gotten all the breaks when it came to receiving Abin Sur's ring, and being struck by lightning and turned into the Flash, and being chosen as the representative of the Amazons, and being able to breathe underwater, and so forth!

One interesting conflict of agendas might come if the black members of the JLA had offered membership to a dark-skinned Superman while assuming he was an African-American who would be eager to put himself up as an example for young black people everywhere in how to succeed in a white man's world, and then were rather embarrassed when he revealed in a TV interview, the first time he was asked, that he wasn't from Earth at all and felt no greater (and no lesser) solidarity with people of African descent than he did with people of any other shade, since he was just a nonhuman immigrant!

Meanwhile, one of the African-American members of the League could have a well-publicized romance with some Caucasian person of the opposite sex, maybe a superhero, maybe a civilian celebrity, which would cause the Ku Klux Klan to go absolutely crazy and try to kill both of them in the name of racial purity . . . (the KKK wouldn't succeed in that, though. I like happy endings.)

To be absolutely fair, we could have more of the 1960s villains be dark-skinned as well, instead of the situation that actually applied in the comics of that era, where it seemed virtually everyone with superpowers was either a Caucasian from Earth, or an alien who might look Caucasian or might have some very unusual color of skin instead (green, blue, etc.)

On the Interracial Romance thing and the explosive reaction to it when one of the couple was a high-profile superhero, I'm remembering the way Captain Kirk was scheduled to kiss Lieutenant Uhura in the script of a Star Trek episode in the 60s, but the version that was finally aired only showed him bending over her or something, without actually showing the kiss as such. Apparently, the network was terrified that millions of white Southerners of that era would start foaming at the mouth if Star Trek actually broadcast the first explicit on-screen interracial kiss in American TV programming history. (I read something about this in William Shatner's book "Star Trek Memories." He was perfectly willing to take the risk of being the first white man in an American TV show to brazenly kiss a black woman, and he did in fact get to kiss Nichelle Nichols when they filmed the scene - but that particular bit was clipped out so that the audience was only able to guess from context that he had kissed her without actually seeing the lips make contact. He regretted that.)

[Anubis]

hmm, interesting.

[boywondernerdDC]

Here's one I posted about a year ago on DC's own boards. I don't think I ever bothered to post it anywhere else. Don't remember why not.

Sometime in 2004, someone on DC's old "Elseworlds" board said something that got me thinking about the following question:

"What if the Silver Age JLA had been almost entirely black instead of almost entirely white?"

(And remember: In the original version, the one guy who didn't look white in the SA JLA was a green-skinned Martian instead.)

I started fooling around with the idea in my head . . .

If most of the SA heroes who were particularly powerful had been dark-skinned for one reason or another (in Superman's case, it would definitely NOT mean that he had tons of African ancestry in his family tree :)), it would have made an interesting situation if we arbitrarily assume that it was happening back in the 1960s, when the early issues of the JLA were actually published in our world and the civil rights movement and all that was suddenly hitting its stride.

Of course, if the heavy hitters of the Silver Age JLA had all (or almost all) looked African-American (even if one or two of them were from other planets and it was sheer coincidence), and if they had met while fighting alien invaders from Appelax, and had banded together so they could face future Big Threats as a team, then other Americans (white, black, prejudiced, unprejudiced) would have seen them as being an exclusive, "segregated" group that obviously only took black men and women.

If that wasn't what they had in mind, and if most of the best powers had gone to black people by pure chance as far as anyone knew at the time, then the JLAers might have quickly invited one or two costumed white people to join as the "tokens" representing racial diversity.

Batman and/or Black Canary, maybe. Batman, of course, doesn't have powers at all. The Canary, of course, had a screaming power but wasn't able to move superfast or move mountains with her hands, so she too might feel like a weaker outsider compared to all the others. (Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern in particular.) Accepting them would be meant to "prove" to their public that high-powered white superheroes of the current generation were not being excluded, there just didn't seem to be many to choose from! It was pure luck of the draw that black people had gotten all the breaks when it came to receiving Abin Sur's ring, and being struck by lightning and turned into the Flash, and being chosen as the representative of the Amazons, and being able to breathe underwater, and so forth!

One interesting conflict of agendas might come if the black members of the JLA had offered membership to a dark-skinned Superman while assuming he was an African-American who would be eager to put himself up as an example for young black people everywhere in how to succeed in a white man's world, and then were rather embarrassed when he revealed in a TV interview, the first time he was asked, that he wasn't from Earth at all and felt no greater (and no lesser) solidarity with people of African descent than he did with people of any other shade, since he was just a nonhuman immigrant!

Meanwhile, one of the African-American members of the League could have a well-publicized romance with some Caucasian person of the opposite sex, maybe a superhero, maybe a civilian celebrity, which would cause the Ku Klux Klan to go absolutely crazy and try to kill both of them in the name of racial purity . . . (the KKK wouldn't succeed in that, though. I like happy endings.)

To be absolutely fair, we could have more of the 1960s villains be dark-skinned as well, instead of the situation that actually applied in the comics of that era, where it seemed virtually everyone with superpowers was either a Caucasian from Earth, or an alien who might look Caucasian or might have some very unusual color of skin instead (green, blue, etc.)

On the Interracial Romance thing and the explosive reaction to it when one of the couple was a high-profile superhero, I'm remembering the way Captain Kirk was scheduled to kiss Lieutenant Uhura in the script of a Star Trek episode in the 60s, but the version that was finally aired only showed him bending over her or something, without actually showing the kiss as such. Apparently, the network was terrified that millions of white Southerners of that era would start foaming at the mouth if Star Trek actually broadcast the first explicit on-screen interracial kiss in American TV programming history. (I read something about this in William Shatner's book "Star Trek Memories." He was perfectly willing to take the risk of being the first white man in an American TV show to brazenly kiss a black woman, and he did in fact get to kiss Nichelle Nichols when they filmed the scene - but that particular bit was clipped out so that the audience was only able to guess from context that he had kissed her without actually seeing the lips make contact. He regretted that.)

i like that

[Delta-Recon-1]

id like to see an elseworld where batman has an afro. OR one where superman lands in beijing or tokyo and was raised by stereotypical asian families (do well in school or leave this home, etc.). Id also like to see an elseworld tale where flash is the slowest man in the world and is still a superhero somehow.

[Andy C.]

I think it'd be kind of interesting to see some of Superman's more epic battles played out on Bizarro-World.

[GL1]

I'd like to see some GL Elseworlds where Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne becomes GLs of their sectors (neighboring) and partner up t defeat some mighty might madness...

I'l like to see an Elsewolrds with Diana dealing with the African, Indian, Norse or Japanese Pantheon instead of the Greek...

I'd like to see an elseworlds where MM was a butt-kicking wolverine-attitude white martian and forms a VERY different type of JLA...

I'd like to see an elseworlds where the JLA and Authority team up and Battle and stuff...

I'd like to see an elseworlds where the Justice League's powers, names and origins are all switched up...

Clark Kent, the would be king of Atlantis, defends Coast City, using Atlantian strength, Lassoes and Magic Bracelets, AQUAMAN

Bruce Wayne, chosen as the best candidate by the Guardians of the Speed Force and given a super speed ring, he fights the villains of Metropolis as THE FLASH

Diana Prince, hit by lightning in a lab, gaining abilities of shapeshifting, telepathy, intagibility, and flight she in order to strike fear into the hearts of Keystone City's underworld, takes the form of a BAT-WOMAN!

John Stewart, the only man from themyscira, gains hydrokinesis and fish telepathy from poseidon. Mars, the Roman God of War charges him with a mission to hunt down evil within sector 2814 and he becomes the MARTIAN MANHUNTER

Wally West, known on his home of Mars as W'ly Wes't escaped at the last moment, he uses his martian martial arts, detective skills and intelligence as the WONDER MAN! While saving New York and working with the U.N.

Arthur Curry, better known as Or-En, fell from Krypton as it was destroyed, now, empowered by the yellow sun, Arthur is able to create green constructs of whatever he imagines with his willpower... he now patrols Gotham City as GREEN LANTERN

John Jones, his wealthy parents killed in an alley finds that he now gains super strength and flight from a yellow sun, as well as heat vision and superspeed. He spends all his time on montior duty from the moon as SUPERMAN!


Man... that was hard work...

[GL1]

I think it'd be kind of interesting to see some of Superman's more epic battles played out on Bizarro-World.

That would be horrible!!! :up:

[Hellstormer]

I wanna see what would happen if all the DC heroes genders would be switched. It would be called Genderbender and written by Grant Morrison.


Who wants to see a elseworld based off Kevin Smith's Superman Lives! (http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/superman-lives-script.html) script?

[Hellstormer]

I'd like to see some GL Elseworlds where Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne becomes GLs of their sectors (neighboring) and partner up t defeat some mighty might madness...

I'l like to see an Elsewolrds with Diana dealing with the African, Indian, Norse or Japanese Pantheon instead of the Greek...

I'd like to see an elseworlds where MM was a butt-kicking wolverine-attitude white martian and forms a VERY different type of JLA...

I'd like to see an elseworlds where the JLA and Authority team up and Battle and stuff...

I'd like to see an elseworlds where the Justice League's powers, names and origins are all switched up...

Clark Kent, the would be king of Atlantis, defends Coast City, using Atlantian strength, Lassoes and Magic Bracelets, AQUAMAN

Bruce Wayne, chosen as the best candidate by the Guardians of the Speed Force and given a super speed ring, he fights the villains of Metropolis as THE FLASH

Diana Prince, hit by lightning in a lab, gaining abilities of shapeshifting, telepathy, intagibility, and flight she in order to strike fear into the hearts of Keystone City's underworld, takes the form of a BAT-WOMAN!

John Stewart, the only man from themyscira, gains hydrokinesis and fish telepathy from poseidon. Mars, the Roman God of War charges him with a mission to hunt down evil within sector 2814 and he becomes the MARTIAN MANHUNTER

Wally West, known on his home of Mars as W'ly Wes't escaped at the last moment, he uses his martian martial arts, detective skills and intelligence as the WONDER MAN! While saving New York and working with the U.N.

Arthur Curry, better known as Or-En, fell from Krypton as it was destroyed, now, empowered by the yellow sun, Arthur is able to create green constructs of whatever he imagines with his willpower... he now patrols Gotham City as GREEN LANTERN

John Jones, his wealthy parents killed in an alley finds that he now gains super strength and flight from a yellow sun, as well as heat vision and superspeed. He spends all his time on montior duty from the moon as SUPERMAN!


Man... that was hard work...:eek: :up:

[house of f]

i would love to see jla age of wonders as it might be today with the granchildren of the legue of scince and the world if it was speeded up like age of wonder

[Caliber]

I want to see one where only one earth exists and it isn't confusing.

[Hellstormer]

I wanna see an Elseworld of what would've happen if COIE never happened.

[That-Guy]

I'd like to see a Knights of the Round Table-type story featuring the JLA in Medieval times. Did they ever do that? I know there was a Superman one called "Kal" that kinda sucked (well, it wasn't terrible, but it's definitely not one of my favorites).