I do not want to see Batman...

[Chris Wallace]

1. crash through another skylight.
2. inadvertantly create another villain
3. get so lost in love that he forgets to do his job.

[El Payaso]

Dancing in a tutu.

[Brian Braddock]

Have a scene where Bats thinks it'll be a good idea to have nipples on the suit.
Get drive thru.
Produce a 'bat-credit card'.

(even now - >shudder< !!! )

[Katsuro]

take a back seat in his own film to a villain.

[Brian Braddock]

take a back seat in his own film to a villain.

Thats a good call.

It's happened once already when The Joker was the villain - please dont let it happen again!!

[Anjow1060]

with a little boy in red/green/yellow tights following alongside with him.

[warren_sparta27]

Thats a good call.

It's happened once already when The Joker was the villain - please dont let it happen again!!

once?
it happened in every film.

[Batjosh]

... reveal his identity to a woman who won't exist in later films.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

once?
it happened in every film.You are right about that! I always wondered why people think that only the first film is guilty of that.

[Sawyer]

Let some punk ass kid steal his Batmobile, while he's chatting up Tom Cruise's ex.

[Mr. Socko]

1. crash through another skylight.
2. inadvertantly create another villain
3. get so lost in love that he forgets to do his job.

I like 1 but I don't want it to happen again. 2, that should happen, 3, no.

... reveal his identity to a woman who won't exist in later films.

Lol, so true.

[Katsuro]

You are right about that! I always wondered why people think that only the first film is guilty of that.

It's most likely because the first film was the only one where the villain was first billed. It's essentially "Batman: starring Jack Nicholson" which I find funny.

[Super_Ludacris]

....With rubber nipples

End of thread

[dr.strange]

leave all his secrets on a computer ,that any alicia silverstone looking chick with half a brain can hack into.

[The Only Woj]

not get laid

[El Payaso]

It's most likely because the first film was the only one where the villain was first billed. It's essentially "Batman: starring Jack Nicholson" which I find funny.

But there's Batman & Robin: starring Arnold Schwarzenegger






(Not to mention Supeman the Movie: starring Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman and Superman II: starring Gene Hackman.)

[Ronny Shade]

... reveal his identity to a woman who won't exist in later films.
Amen brother

[Brian Braddock]

You are right about that! I always wondered why people think that only the first film is guilty of that.


kindly take notice that I only made reference to a previous Batman film with the Joker in it?

thanks.

[trustyside-kick]

... reveal his identity to a woman who won't exist in later films.

Ya...that was pretty dumb when they did that in Batman 89'.

[Two-Face]

It was only in Batman & Robin that Julie Madsen didn't know Clooney's I mean Bruce's secret identity.

[El Payaso]

Ya...that was pretty dumb when they did that in Batman 89'.

They did that in B89, in B Returns, in B Forever and so far in B Begins.

[Two-Face]

..... having different Batmobile.

[Chris Wallace]

... reveal his identity to a woman who won't exist in later films.
Damn. Forgot to put that one. But I'd like to expand on it;
"...reveal his identity to another woman who we won't see in later films despite the fact that he's convinced she is 'the one."

[trustyside-kick]

..... having different Batmobile.

Well...even in comics he has a crapload of em..I mean in that one issue of Hush with Nightwing you see them in a room full of Batmobiles that are like on ferris wheel things.

[El Payaso]

Damn. Forgot to put that one. But I'd like to expand on it;
"...reveal his identity to another woman who we won't see in later films despite the fact that he's convinced she is 'the one."

Aww, aren't we all convinced the one we have is 'the one'... :)

[Mr. Socko]

Well...even in comics he has a crapload of em..I mean in that one issue of Hush with Nightwing you see them in a room full of Batmobiles that are like on ferris wheel things.

Yeah but that was definitely something special they did for kicks and cheap thrills. They also showed all the Batmobiles from the movies in that one and Batman from the comics has never used an exact replica of one from a movie.

[trustyside-kick]

Yeah but that was definitely something special they did for kicks and cheap thrills. They also showed all the Batmobiles from the movies in that one and Batman from the comics has never used an exact replica of one from a movie.

Still...he does have a lot of them. But I know what you mean and I would just like for him to stick with the Tumbler too instead of getting new ones in the movies.

[Mr. Socko]

As long as the Batmobile isn't gay-a-fied like in Batman & Robin where it has 6 small blue flame sockets on the back and no top complete with neon and Batman tires that had treads of the bat-symbol on it.

[trustyside-kick]

Yea...Schumaucher (or however you spell his name) really went a lil too far with all the neon lights and crap...

[Chris Wallace]

Aww, aren't we all convinced the one we have is 'the one'... :)
Yeah, but he falls for these girls after one, MAYBE two dates. Two dates is not sufficient to share your most vital secret, especially with-let's see...a member of the press who's in town trying to get the scoop on Batman, & a renowned psychiatrist who's fixated on him.

[Chris Wallace]

As long as the Batmobile isn't gay-a-fied like in Batman & Robin where it has 6 small blue flame sockets on the back and no top complete with neon and Batman tires that had treads of the bat-symbol on it.
And no canopy; what's the point in having a bulletproof (assuming that one even was) car if your head's exposed?
I'm not opposed to upgrading the vehicle b/c Batman is SUPPOSED to upgrade his tech & his arsenal from time to time. But make it better, not flashier.

[Darko]

I don't want to see Batman fighting with a bad camera view on the whole action.:o
BETTER FIGHT SCENES!!!!!:mad::up:

[Abaddon]

I don't want to see him sky surf on a piece of falling debris.

[Mr. Socko]

The fight scenes were good, it's how they were filmed that alot of ppl don't like.

[trustyside-kick]

I don't want to see Batman fighting with a bad camera view on the whole action.:o
BETTER FIGHT SCENES!!!!!:mad::up:

Wait...are you referring to the fights in Begins of Bruce as Batman? If you watch the Special Features CD Nolan said he wanted to film the fights so that you saw it in the criminals' point of view. That also made Batman seem more quick, stronger, more intimidating.

[Super_Ludacris]

I don't want to see Batman fighting with a bad camera view on the whole action.:o
BETTER FIGHT SCENES!!!!!:mad::up:

Oh **** Darko returns:eek:

[El Payaso]

Yeah, but he falls for these girls after one, MAYBE two dates. Two dates is not sufficient to share your most vital secret, especially with-let's see...a member of the press who's in town trying to get the scoop on Batman, & a renowned psychiatrist who's fixated on him.

That's true.

I don't want to see Batman fighting with a bad camera view on the whole action.:o
BETTER FIGHT SCENES!!!!!:mad::up:

Oh yes. PLEASE.
The fight scenes were good, it's how they were filmed that alot of ppl don't like.

If they were terribly filmed then what's the point in the fights being good? It's like having something good to show and then not showing it.

Even that wonderful image of Batman descending with the open cape was pointless, it can't be fully seen.

Wait...are you referring to the fights in Begins of Bruce as Batman? If you watch the Special Features CD Nolan said he wanted to film the fights so that you saw it in the criminals' point of view. That also made Batman seem more quick, stronger, more intimidating.

It actually made me not seeing a thing about Batman, intimidating, quick or not.

The first time was ok, we all got the quick intimidating Batman and the criminals POV.

But keeping the same formula for every action scene was really a terrible choice. The final fight between Batman and Ras - which should have been climatic - is the same blur as any of the previous fights. Anticlimatic at its best (worst).

[Mr. Socko]

MY GAWD! I just watched Begins today and the shots of the fight were awful, you couldn't tell what was going on. I don't care if they're trying to act as if it's in the bad guy's point of view or not, but it was bad. Every fight was hard to see, and was dumb.

Good thing this movie didn't depend on action much, or it would have been quite bad.

[Ronny Shade]

You people have learned nothing from horror movies.

SOMETHING IS FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AND FRIGHTENING IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT!

dammit

[kenellard]

This is a BATMAN movie though right?

[El Payaso]

You people have learned nothing from horror movies.

SOMETHING IS FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AND FRIGHTENING IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT!

dammit

Oh Batman Begins a horror movie?

Dr. Crane sings:
One two... he comes for you...
Three four...

etc

(Now I remember, when were Freeddy Krueger's scenes edited like a blur?)

[Chris Wallace]

That's not what he meant.

I also don't want any more villains shooting their own men. This happened in all four films of the previous series.

[El Payaso]

So?

Batman wore black rubber in the previous 4 movies.

[Mr. Socko]

You people have learned nothing from horror movies.

SOMETHING IS FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AND FRIGHTENING IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT!

dammit

I forgot Batman Begins was a horror movie http://www.swcity.net/yabbse/Smileys/classic/face_plain.gif

So?

Batman wore black rubber in the previous 4 movies.

Another score for Payaso:up:

[user123456789]

They did that in B89, in B Returns, in B Forever and so far in B Begins.

BB had the most original approach to revealing batman's identity though.

Rachel just put 2 and 2 together.

Can't say the same for Lois Lane & Supes, lmfao.

[Flame on!]

I do not want to see Batman...


Kung-Fuing his way through faceless opposition.
Leaving all the brain work to someone else.

[El Payaso]

BB had the most original approach to revealing batman's identity though.

Rachel just put 2 and 2 together.

Can't say the same for Lois Lane & Supes, lmfao.

Batman told her the 'it's what I doooo' line to make sure she knew who he was. How's that any original?

[Chris Wallace]

So?

Batman wore black rubber in the previous 4 movies.
1-Not true. Clooney wore blue.
2-we're not talking costume design, but plot devices.

[CConn]

1-Not true. Clooney wore blue.Actually, I believe the suit was in reality black, but Schumacher lit it so that it showed up blue.

Yes, Schumacher sucked that much.

[Chris Wallace]

No. I saw photos of it in the light; it was blue.

[DV8]

Let some punk ass kid steal his Batmobile, while he's chatting up Tom Cruise's ex.

heh, or Tom Cruise's beeyitch now . . .

[DV8]

I must say, I kind of like it when he smashes through skylights though . . . not very subtle and Batman-like though, when you think about it . . .

[DV8]

I agree with the fight scenes . . . there is such tight choreography, but we can't see it!! I don't need the fight scenes all flashy kung-fu style like most cheesy fight scenes, but I do feel that a lot of the fight scenes were not as effective as they could have been. Good idea for an indie-film type approach, but we need just a LITTLE Hollywood flash w/ those fight scenes dammit!!!

[El Payaso]

1-Not true. Clooney wore blue.
2-we're not talking costume design, but plot devices.

1.- Own'd. It was black.

2.- In any case, the villiain shooting a henchman is probably the most unimportant plot device ever. Care-o-meter under zero.

[Chris Wallace]

IT.
WAS.
BLUE!!!!!
I know it looked black on film, but I've seen enough daylight pics, & it was blue.

[Two-Face]

Here some pics of Clooney as Bats

http://www.insidepulse.com/columnImages/image11558.jpg

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmanpics/batman_clooney_b-r.jpg


http://www.space-debris.com/bat_clooney.jpg


I think it's lighting that shows it's blue but I think he's Batsuit is black.

[Chris Wallace]

You Believe Your Theories; I'll Believe My Eyes.

[Brian Braddock]

The object that i've circled in red below is the thing I most want to never, ever see in a Batman film ever, ever again.

I do not to it by name because I believe, like Beetlejuice and Candyman, if you say this word a number of times it just might appear on the suit in the next Batman film.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/clooneynipple.jpg


:down

[Two-Face]

I agree with Superbenitez

[Chris Wallace]

Actually, in Beetlejuice's case, you can also use it to make him go away.

[trustyside-kick]

The object that i've circled in red below is the thing I most want to never, ever see in a Batman film ever, ever again.

I do not to it by name because I believe, like Beetlejuice and Candyman, if you say this word a number of times it just might appear on the suit in the next Batman film.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/clooneynipple.jpg


:down

Ah yes...the Bat nipple....:down

[El Payaso]

Joel S., I know Batman has a butt. You don't have to show me.

[Mr. Socko]

You don't want any of the bat-butt shots :eek:

[Soundwave88]

1. crash through another skylight.
2. inadvertantly create another villain
3. get so lost in love that he forgets to do his job.

He has to create Joker so sorry dude:up:

[Chris Wallace]

Not necessarily; for the sake of faithfulness, sure he'd have to, but the whole point is that this is a new series. If Bruce's parents can die coming out of an opera rather than a movie theater, then certain liberties can be taken.

[trustyside-kick]

Not necessarily; for the sake of faithfulness, sure he'd have to, but the whole point is that this is a new series. If Bruce's parents can die coming out of an opera rather than a movie theater, then certain liberties can be taken.

It is a new series in the sense that it does not go along with the Batman 89' Film and the rest. Yea they changed small stuff like an opera house instead of theatre but they should not change the Joker thing.

[Chris Wallace]

Say They Do; Okay. I Can Live With That. And Even Two-face. But He Shouldn't Have Anything To Do W/anyone Else. In The Original Series He Had A Hand In Creating Pretty Much Everybody Except Freeze, Catwoman & Penguin.

[trustyside-kick]

You left out people...who do you think he created in TAS? Curious cause you did leave out people he did not create. :P

[Chris Wallace]

I'm Not Talking About The Cartoon. I Don't Think He Created Anybody In The Cartoon Except The Joker.

[trustyside-kick]

I'm Not Talking About The Cartoon. I Don't Think He Created Anybody In The Cartoon Except The Joker.

Oh...ok see now I understand. Before when I thought differently I thought you mean TAS. :P

[Chris Wallace]

But You Get What I Mean Now? He Ricocheted A Bullet Into Jack Napier's Face & Then Dropped Him Into The Chemical Vat, Thus Creating The Joker. He Was There When Harvey Dent Got The Acid Splash (& In The Novel, Was The One Who Talked Him Into Staying In The D.a.'s Office When He'd Wanted To Quit), Thereby Having A Hand In Creating Two-face. He Spurned Edward Nygma, Driving Him To Become The Riddler. And He Unwittingly Funded The Project Which Led To The Creation Of Bane & Poison Ivy.

[Spider - Man]

Taking a dump...while wearing the cowl! ;P

[trustyside-kick]

But You Get What I Mean Now? He Ricocheted A Bullet Into Jack Napier's Face & Then Dropped Him Into The Chemical Vat, Thus Creating The Joker. He Was There When Harvey Dent Got The Acid Splash (& In The Novel, Was The One Who Talked Him Into Staying In The D.a.'s Office When He'd Wanted To Quit), Thereby Having A Hand In Creating Two-face. He Spurned Edward Nygma, Driving Him To Become The Riddler. And He Unwittingly Funded The Project Which Led To The Creation Of Bane & Poison Ivy.

O ya I get what you mean. I did not realize like I said that you were referring to the movies and not BTAS. Yea, some of those were not very nice.

But you gotta admit in Batman Forever them having Batman try to stop the guy on trial to throw the acid before it hit Harvey was cool (you see a small clip of it when Bruce is watching the video I belive).

[Chris Wallace]

After A While It's Like He Causes More Problems Than He Solves.

[trustyside-kick]

After A While It's Like He Causes More Problems Than He Solves.

Ya. You ever read Hush Returns or Under the Hood? Both Tommy and Jason blame Bruce for doing more harm then good to Gotham.

[Chris Wallace]

They Mainly Cite His Refusal To Kill.

[saint sinner x]

I hope rachel dies that whore. I don't want to see batman doing the moonwalk or saying "Alfred help me!"

[trustyside-kick]

They Mainly Cite His Refusal To Kill.

Yea but cause they believe that if he killed villains like the Joker a long time ago Gotham would have been saved from a crapload of suffering.

[Chris Wallace]

From A Certain Point Of View, They're Right.