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zman
04-15-2006, 12:43 AM
I know, its not a spoiler, but come on its really sweet!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&VideoID=655533369&Mytoken=514A8F1C-126F-10E2-87C0ACBAC69BBDC142705160.490965181896&0.0659626652317&f=Njg5MDI5NTk=&0.597117879103


yeah long address...

Kane
04-15-2006, 12:49 AM
This is picture proof enough that a Batman/Superman movie would be amazing:

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1079/worldsfinest45co.jpg

zman
04-15-2006, 12:52 AM
true that!

db85usa
04-15-2006, 12:57 AM
The video was very bad and seemed like anybody could make it in 10 minutes. This thread should be closed or moved for it has nothing to do with SR.

Mentok
04-15-2006, 01:04 AM
I know, its not a spoiler, but come on its really sweet!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&VideoID=655533369&Mytoken=514A8F1C-126F-10E2-87C0ACBAC69BBDC142705160.490965181896&0.0659626652317&f=Njg5MDI5NTk=&0.597117879103


yeah long address...

That sucked :down :(

Mentok
04-15-2006, 01:05 AM
This is picture proof enough that a Batman/Superman movie would be amazing:

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1079/worldsfinest45co.jpg

No its not... The films are set in two vastly different universes you can never get them to match up.

For a BvsS film, you need two characters set in the same film universe. We dont have that.

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:15 AM
No its not... The films are set in two vastly different universes you can never get them to match up.

For a BvsS film, you need two characters set in the same film universe. We dont have that.

They could be in the same film universe, everyone else seems to agree. The stylized BTAS-like classic look of Metropolis could be a sign of the affluence of the city.

Gotham is pretty beat down, corrupt and in serious turmoil, thats why it looks so ghetto and realistic. However, at Bruce's parties and in the flashbacks, the clothing and look conformed to the more stylistic look.

They could easily fit together. Im surprised press are already asking Brandon and Singer questions about possibly doing a crossover.

It wouldnt be a Batman VERSUS Superman movie anyways. Like Brandon said, they shouldnt be fighting each other.

SolidSnakeMGS
04-15-2006, 01:20 AM
That sucked :down :(

Completely whole-heartedly absolutely positively agree!

*Captain Picard tells me a simple 'yes' would have sufficed*

zman
04-15-2006, 01:20 AM
I presented this clip more for the potential it has (story wise) than for its quality. I'm aware its far from top notch. But when I saw Superman and Batman on the same screen, It didn't feel wrong, it felt...consivable.

Mentok
04-15-2006, 01:21 AM
They could be in the same film universe, everyone else seems to agree. The stylized BTAS-like classic look of Metropolis could be a sign of the affluence of the city.

Gotham is pretty beat down, corrupt and in serious turmoil, thats why it looks so ghetto and realistic. However, at Bruce's parties and in the flashbacks, the clothing and look conformed to the more stylistic look.

They could easily fit together. Im surprised press are already asking Brandon and Singer questions about possibly doing a crossover.

It wouldnt be a Batman VERSUS Superman movie anyways. Like Brandon said, they shouldnt be fighting each other.

It wont work. Singer even killed any talk of a crossover saying 'The worlds are too far apart, too different'

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:26 AM
When did he say that? Its likely that he may not even continue with the franchaise that far into the future, who knows. I dont see how it couldnt fly if done properly. It just needs a kickass script and great director.

Rob-el
04-15-2006, 01:28 AM
Its not so much if they could do a movie with the two of them. I'm sure they're some director out there who could meld the two universes into something interesting. Its more a dollar thing. Why would WB want to put two potential cash cows into one revenue stream? They wouldn't. There is more money to be made by seperate Batman and Superman movies coming out every three years than there is to be made by one movie with the two of them.

Having said that after three movies of each I'm sure WB would review the revenues being generated and if they are waning perhaps then a combo movie would be deemed finacially the right move as a last kick of the can so to speak before retiring the characters for 15 years for the next generation inturpertations.

zman
04-15-2006, 01:32 AM
That makes perfect sense Rob-el, but keep in mind that by making such a movie, fans from each two characters would want to see it. So, when you say «Why would WB want to put two potential cash cows into one revenue stream?» You gotta keep that in mind: they might make about twice as much money with this.

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:33 AM
Its not so much if they could do a movie with the two of them. I'm sure they're some director out there who could meld the two universes into something interesting. Its more a dollar thing. Why would WB want to put two potential cash cows into one revenue stream? They wouldn't. There is more money to be made by seperate Batman and Superman movies coming out every three years than there is to be made by one movie with the two of them.

Having said that after three movies of each I'm sure WB would review the revenues being generated and if they are waning perhaps then a combo movie would be deemed finacially the right move as a last kick of the can so to speak before retiring the characters for 15 years for the next generation inturpertations.

After they do about 3 movies each, thats some pretty good revenue. A teamup movie could even generate a stronger revenue than the individuals if each film franchaise builds up its own fanbase.

zman
04-15-2006, 01:34 AM
After they do about 3 movies each, thats some pretty good revenue. A teamup movie could even generate a stronger revenue than the individuals if each film franchaise builds up its own fanbase.


bingo.

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:35 AM
Stylistically it could work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CatydWbHZ0

Superman is the light and Batman is the darkness. The interactions between these two characters is enough to make this movie amazing.

Mentok
04-15-2006, 01:36 AM
When did he say that? Its likely that he may not even continue with the franchaise that far into the future, who knows. I dont see how it couldnt fly if done properly. It just needs a kickass script and great director.

He said it in the wizard interview when he said that he had the very strange experience of watching BB with Superman.

zman
04-15-2006, 01:38 AM
Wow, this thing is about 50 times better than the one I showed!! So I guess we do agree!!

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:40 AM
From what Ive seen on this site, the vast majority seem to want this but its only under the condition that its well written and has the right director.

They dont want the Batman VS Superman script that was passed around hollywood. That sucked.

It has to be a World's Finest movie.

Scooter
04-15-2006, 01:57 AM
Not with those two actors. The Superman fan in me won't have Batman out manly-ing Supes for 2 hours.

:)

Kane
04-15-2006, 02:02 AM
Batman always owns Supes. Hes the greatest.

But its not like theres anyone else thats right for this Superman here besides Brandon :up:

romeogbs19
04-15-2006, 03:48 AM
Bad idea all around. I disagree that ppl from both camps would want to see this -- maybe the hardcore like us -- but casual viewing audiences? As ppl here have pointed out, I can ONLY see this happening after WB has milked each franchise out (i.e. 3+ movies) ... and sorry, by then it's going to be a watered down, Superman 4/Batman and Robin debacle -- made purely by marketers and driven by cash hounds ... I'd rather keep it in the comics and in animated cartoons -- forget it on the big screen. It'll do more damage than good.

Kane
04-15-2006, 04:01 AM
Have you not seen how the DCAU handled the World's Finest movie though? It was good.

Why cant a similar approach be taken to the big screen version?

Showtime
04-15-2006, 08:29 AM
Stylistically it could work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CatydWbHZ0

Superman is the light and Batman is the darkness. The interactions between these two characters is enough to make this movie amazing.

I agree the only way to tackle it would not to try to cast the characters into a similar enviornment but to embrace their differences in philosophy and psychology. Not only would you be exposing the differences between Batman and Superman in the storyline, you would also need to explore the differences between Clark and Bruce and Metropolis and Gotham. Once the writer sets up these differences he would have to find a way to help them past said differences to reach their ultimate goal.

It shouldn't necessarily be just Batman vs Superman from a physical standpoint, it should also touch about the points I made above, it becomes Batman vs Superman in every way. When faced with a certain issue, how would Batman approach it? What about Superman? This is what a writer has to think about if they want to write a great script in relation to these characters.

I have an outline in which a main part of the storyline involves each hero questioning their alter ego due to developments within the storyline. Bruce Wayne is wondering about the need for Batman anymore. As Bruce Wayne he is a hero to the people of Gotham, he drives the fastest cars and can have any woman he wants. As Batman he is looked upon as a freak and sometimes a menace. Superman is wondering the same thing, but in the opposite way, is there really a need for Clark Kent? As Superman he is admired throughout the world, and is looked upon as a God, a savior of the people. As Clark he is just a bumbling fool, and would anybody miss him if he was gone.

Spike_x1
04-15-2006, 09:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CatydWbHZ0
I always liked that trailer. The music gets me everytime. :D

spencer6891
04-15-2006, 09:13 AM
Batman is dark, gritty noir. Superman is not. End of story.

:down

Showtime
04-15-2006, 09:16 AM
Not the end of story at all, that's what you should play off if you were the writer or director.

dar-El
04-15-2006, 09:28 AM
Ok you guys are driving me nuts. If anyone thinks a Batman/Superman film would suck, i dare you to watch Sandy Collera's Worlds Finest short film (you can find it at comics2film). Then if you can try to say it wouldnt work. Believe me with the right writers, director and production team it would rock not suck! Their universes can easily coexist. Oh and if it were me making it, id have them team up against a returning Ra's Al Ghul and a powerless General Zod (spun off Begins & Donner's Superman2),then having them clash over their morals and methods of crimefighting. Its easy when you put your mind to it.

The Kid
04-15-2006, 09:36 AM
Yeah good writing and serious handling of the franchise characters would be wonderful if this ever happened.

M.E.H.Z.E.B
04-15-2006, 09:39 AM
After they do about 3 movies each, thats some pretty good revenue. A teamup movie could even generate a stronger revenue than the individuals if each film franchaise builds up its own fanbase.

Agreed. But the director who takes up the BvS job, would have to be educated in both the Superman and Batman mythos, sit through with Singer, and Nolan with the plot, scenes, and the sets, while thinking up a new dimension to surprise the fans.

Showtime
04-15-2006, 10:30 AM
No matter the outcome of the my completed Batman vs Superman script, I will share it with those on The Hype.

The Batman
04-15-2006, 10:30 AM
The Worlds Finest as been a staple of comic books for a long time. It can work, if WB wants it to. It's stupid to say they cant be in the same universe, since in the comics Gotham and metropolis are vastly different as well. Same as in the animated series

Sverdlovski
04-15-2006, 10:42 AM
I hope they don't make a Bat/Supes movie.


Ans Scooter, Bale is VASTLY overrated.

Showtime
04-15-2006, 10:44 AM
I am not sure why there are so many out there against this type of movie, it wouldn't necessarily be a Batman vs Superman movie, it would be more along the lines of World's Finest.

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:08 PM
Batman is dark, gritty noir. Superman is not. End of story.

:down

Um buddy theres supposed to be a contrast. STAS was lighthearted compared to the dark, seriousness of BTAS. BTAS felt like a totally different world at times.....Im sure there were loads of fans saying a crossover could never be done right...

But it was done right, it spawned into Batman/Superman and then The Justice League. I dont see people complaining that these series were made. Fans just tend to fear the worst, but it could work...in the hands of a great director.

The contrast between the two characters is what will make this great. Batman and Superman are like a duality, their very synched together. Theres alot of potential.

Kane
04-15-2006, 01:12 PM
Agreed. But the director who takes up the BvS job, would have to be educated in both the Superman and Batman mythos, sit through with Singer, and Nolan with the plot, scenes, and the sets, while thinking up a new dimension to surprise the fans.

Depends. After 3 movies each, the Batman and Superman characters would have evolved and come into their own. Their worlds are going to change too, along with them. Consulting Singer and Nolan may not be a huge step, but its really not that different from Singer consulting Donner.

Being educated enough in the Batman/Superman mythos isnt a hard task though. I wasnt even into comics till last September, and after like 2 weeks I knew everything from all the origins to the intricacies of Crisis on Infinite Earths; except theyll get paid for learning all that.

C. Lee
04-15-2006, 01:13 PM
I know, its not a spoiler, but come on its really sweet!!

I know you are excited....but put things where they belong or next time it will simply be deleted.

Morgoth
04-15-2006, 01:18 PM
That was really freaking cool! :eek:

Morgoth
04-15-2006, 01:25 PM
Um buddy theres supposed to be a contrast. STAS was lighthearted compared to the dark, seriousness of BTAS. BTAS felt like a totally different world at times.....Im sure there were loads of fans saying a crossover could never be done right...

But it was done right, it spawned into Batman/Superman and then The Justice League. I dont see people complaining that these series were made. Fans just tend to fear the worst, but it could work...in the hands of a great director.

The contrast between the two characters is what will make this great. Batman and Superman are like a duality, their very synched together. Theres alot of potential.Well said. That's the point to bring them together, to show that their differences could work together and make them stronger, and there are funny moments because of it.

And yes Batman's a dark hero but he doesn't always work alone does he?:) So for him to team up with others makes sense, he has had many sidekicks before , Robin, Batgirl, Nightwing, etc.

Plus sometimes you have to see Batman in another light. To take him out of Gotham and give him a bigger realm is fun, just to get him out of the house once in a while so to speak.:)

Just like with Avengers, I thought it was weird for Spidey to be on the team but then I thought of it in a new way, it's fun to do something different with him once in awhile, and actually Avengers brought me back to being a Spidey fan after being bored with him for awhile, just as JL the animated series brought me back to being a Batman fan again when it debuted.

GothicPowerMix1
04-15-2006, 01:31 PM
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9007/untitled2fr.jpg

MaskedManJRK
04-16-2006, 11:38 PM
This is picture proof enough that a Batman/Superman movie would be amazing:

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1079/worldsfinest45co.jpg

...:eek:...

Now I need a new pair of underwear. :O