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Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 03:44 PM
Seriously, he's the perfect choice for the Clown Prince of Crime. Even though we don't know about his acting skills, maybe this could be the role where we see what he's really made of. He's got the right build and looks for Joker, I just hope Christopher Nolan sees that and casts him!

-Doc

Boom
04-15-2006, 03:44 PM
Seriously, he's the perfect choice for the Clown Prince of Crime. Even though we don't know about his acting skills, maybe this could be the role where we see what he's really made of. He's got the right build and looks for Joker, I just hope Christopher Nolan sees that and casts him!

-Doc
Ahuh.

The-Night
04-15-2006, 03:49 PM
Ahuh.

hey like I said before, an unknown Australlian HAS worked in the past for a comic book movie!!!!!!!!:wolverine
why not :joker: ?

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 03:59 PM
hey like I said before, an unknown Australlian HAS worked in the past for a comic book movie!!!!!!!!:wolverine
why not :joker: ?

Totally. :joker:

Boom
04-15-2006, 03:59 PM
hey like I said before, an unknown Australlian HAS worked in the past for a comic book movie!!!!!!!!:wolverine
why not :joker: ?
I'm just tired of people saying he's PERFECT for the role. He may be VERY GOOD at the role, I won't deny that possibility. But perfect is a very strong word to use, considering there are actors out there with more impressive filmographies that could act the role just as good, if not better, than Hulme. Don't kid yourself by thinking that's not the truth.

For the record, sure Jackman as Wolverine "worked." But could they have done better? You'd better believe it.

StorminNorman
04-15-2006, 04:05 PM
Seriously, he's the perfect choice for the Clown Prince of Crime. Even though we don't know about his acting skills, maybe this could be the role where we see what he's really made of. He's got the right build and looks for Joker, I just hope Christopher Nolan sees that and casts him!

-Doc

LOL Yay untested actors!

Keyser Sushi
04-15-2006, 04:08 PM
Good Christ, I'm gone for a night and we're overrun by n00bs.

We've had this discussion before. About a million times a day.

Did we really need ANOTHER thread to discuss this? Where's the mods when you need 'em?

Oh, right, the Spider-Man 3 boards...

StorminNorman
04-15-2006, 04:09 PM
Good Christ, I'm gone for a night and we're overrun by n00bs.

We've had this discussion before. About a million times a day.

Did we really need ANOTHER thread to discuss this? Where's the mods when you need 'em?

Oh, right, the Spider-Man 3 boards...

You missed the action last night - I was actually put on IGNORE by RedIsNotBlue!

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:10 PM
Good Christ, I'm gone for a night and we're overrun by n00bs.

We've had this discussion before. About a million times a day.

Did we really need ANOTHER thread to discuss this? Where's the mods when you need 'em?

Oh, right, the Spider-Man 3 boards...

Oh.....sorry. :(

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:11 PM
You missed the action last night - I was actually put on IGNORE by RedIsNotBlue!
You're probably better off killing yourself then. That's so heinous my fragile mind can't even conceive it.

wikum
04-15-2006, 04:11 PM
I think I would be the perfect choice to play The Joker. I'm unknown and have no acting skills. Oh and I would be cheap. Nolan....call me:up:

Keyser Sushi
04-15-2006, 04:13 PM
You missed the action last night - I was actually put on IGNORE by RedIsNotBlue!

Wow, for real? What'd you say to him? :D

Brian2887
04-15-2006, 04:13 PM
I trust Nolan. If he picks Hulme, then Hulme can do it. I can't comment, though, since I've only seen him in a brief Matrix role.

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:20 PM
I think I would be the perfect choice to play The Joker. I'm unknown and have no acting skills. Oh and I would be cheap. Nolan....call me:up:

You've never seen Hulme act in a movie so don't talk!!!!!!!

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:21 PM
You've never seen Hulme act in a movie so don't talk!!!!!!!
Have you?

And if you're going to say "Matrix Revolutions," don't bother. That cameo holds absolutely no water, considering the character Sparks bears know similarity to The Joker on any level whatsoever.

Two-Face
04-15-2006, 04:24 PM
It wasn't needed a thread about.

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:24 PM
Have you?

Yes I have and let me tell you something, the man can act!!!!!

I watched Four Jakcs beore I made my decision about Hulme. Unlike some peope here who have have only watched in on the matrix for 2 sec and say NO!!!!!!

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:24 PM
I have.....

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:25 PM
Yes I have and let me tell you something, the man can act!!!!!
What movie?

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:27 PM
Wath the movie Four Jacks.

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:28 PM
What movie?

the question is have you? I mean you seem to be so judgemental about him that I'm sure you have seen everyting he's in that does not last for 2 sec

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:28 PM
Wath the movie Four Jacks.
I did. What's your point?

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:29 PM
I did. What's your point?

well tell me at least that you're for Bettant please!!!!!

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:29 PM
I did. What's your point?

You asked a question, I answered it.

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:30 PM
I did. What's your point?

You asked a question, I answered it.

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:30 PM
the question is have you? I mean you seem to be so judgemental about him that I'm sure you have seen everyting he's in that does not last for 2 sec
I'm judging him because I have seem him act, and therefore I am fully justified to assess his acting talents.

He's good, I'll give you that. But perfect for The Joker? **** no.

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:30 PM
I did. What's your point?

You asked a question, I answered it.

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:31 PM
You asked a question, I answered it.
Actually, I asked you a question, and then you answered with "Watch Four Jacks." I'm asking YOU about the movie. I'm completely irrelevant to the question.

What about the movie screamed "Perfect for The Joker" to you? That's the point I wanted you to answer.

StorminNorman
04-15-2006, 04:33 PM
Wow, for real? What'd you say to him? :D

He called me gay and mentally ill - so I called him a immature child :o

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:33 PM
Well, what about the movie screamed "Perfect for The Joker" to you?

That's the point I wanted you to answer.

The rumor of him being interested in playing Joker and going to L.A. for the role, along with looking ALOT like him is what appealed him to me. :)

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:35 PM
The rumor of him being interested in playing Joker and going to L.A. for the role, along with looking ALOT like him is what appealed him to me. :)
What does that have to do with his role in Four Jacks?

So you were sold solely by aesthetics?

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:36 PM
I'm judging him because I have seem him act, and therefore I am fully justified to assess his acting talents.

He's good, I'll give you that. But perfect for The Joker? **** no.

I'm for Hulme 100% but I'm not going to say he's perfect for the role, I mean the fact that there is so little of him to watch bugs me bit so I am open to the possibilite of Bale/Bettany as well!!!!!!

StorminNorman
04-15-2006, 04:37 PM
The rumor of him being interested in playing Joker and going to L.A. for the role, along with looking ALOT like him is what appealed him to me. :)

Bettany is interested in the role, and looks a lot like the Joker (look at my avatar) and may or may not have been in LA for the role.

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:37 PM
I'm for Hulme 100% but I'm not going to say he's perfect for the role, I mean the fact that there is so little of him to watch bugs me bit so I am open to the possibilite of Bale/Bettany as well!!!!!!
Then you're not 100% ;).

Two-Face
04-15-2006, 04:38 PM
The rumor of him being interested in playing Joker and going to L.A. for the role, along with looking ALOT like him is what appealed him to me. :)

Next you say Aston Kutcher would be perfect in a Batman...:rolleyes:

That's pretty stupid if you don't know Hulme acting as well....:down

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:38 PM
Then you're not 100% ;).

Ok more like 93.7%
that better?

Boom
04-15-2006, 04:39 PM
Ok more like 93.7%
that better?
Round to the nearest hundredth please :o.

The-Night
04-15-2006, 04:40 PM
Round to the nearest hundredth please :o.

where's the fun in that.

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:40 PM
Next you say Aston Kutcher would be perfect in a Batman...:rolleyes:

That's pretty stupid if you don't know Hulme acting as well....:down

Dude, I said I saw Four Jacks and I even watched him in Matrix even if he hgas a small role. That and what I said is why I want him as Joker, sorry for sharing my opinion :o

Two-Face
04-15-2006, 04:45 PM
Dude, I said I saw Four Jacks and I even watched him in Matrix even if he hgas a small role. That and what I said is why I want him as Joker, sorry for sharing my opinion :o


Seriously, he's the perfect choice for the Clown Prince of Crime. IEven though we don't know about his acting skills, [/I]maybe this could be the role where we see what he's really made of. He's got the right build and looks for Joker, I just hope Christopher Nolan sees that and casts him!

-Doc


Sorry I only read that, now you say he can act cos he saw him acting which is it?

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-15-2006, 04:49 PM
Sorry I only read that, now you say he can act cos he saw him acting which is it?

Notice I said "we" meaning some people haven't seen or heard of him, if I didn't know anything about him I would've said "I."

The Chairman
04-15-2006, 05:54 PM
It wasn't needed a thread about.

A little tongue - tied Two-Face? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

That being sais, I hate the idea of Hulme. I'd much ratther have Bettany or some other highky impressive and relatively known charactor actor who would fit in with the cast Nolan has put together.

Mr. Socko
04-15-2006, 06:11 PM
Jesus! How many of these threads do we need!

explode7
04-15-2006, 06:22 PM
Just a couple more hundred will do just fine.

Ronny Shade
04-15-2006, 10:18 PM
This thread sux:down

Been done 20 times.

Lone Wolf
04-15-2006, 11:32 PM
Notice I said "we" meaning some people haven't seen or heard of him, if I didn't know anything about him I would've said "I."

That doesn't make any sense, let alone even answer his question.

Oh, and the search function is your friend, learn to use it even though you're new. We already have about a dozen of these threads.

wikum
04-16-2006, 12:55 AM
You've never seen Hulme act in a movie so don't talk!!!!!!!

technically i have.

i don't mind if he gets it, it will mean he is good.

end of argument.

Two-Face
04-16-2006, 07:50 AM
A little tongue - tied Two-Face? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

That being sais, I hate the idea of Hulme. I'd much ratther have Bettany or some other highky impressive and relatively known charactor actor who would fit in with the cast Nolan has put together.


Something like that yeah BTW call me Face


Paul Bettany would be much better choice since I saw Gangster No. 1 last week on DVD he was evil you know sick in the head so that's what Joker is like but if they Nolan & WB sign Hulme then I wait I see pics, trailers and the movie itself in June 2008.

mcflytrap
04-16-2006, 01:41 PM
For the record, sure Jackman as Wolverine "worked." But could they have done better? You'd better believe it.

You are dead RIGHT. I always thought Jackman was good as Wolverine, but definitive and perfect? Nah.

Not like Reeve in SUPERMAN, anyway. :)

mcflytrap
04-16-2006, 01:42 PM
LOL Yay untested actors!

I think you and I will agree...BETTANY, DAMNIT!

mcflytrap
04-16-2006, 01:43 PM
I think I would be the perfect choice to play The Joker. I'm unknown and have no acting skills. Oh and I would be cheap. Nolan....call me:up:

Why...you're PERFECT!!!:up:

Azrael13
04-19-2006, 07:51 PM
I think I would be the perfect choice to play The Joker. I'm unknown and have no acting skills. Oh and I would be cheap. Nolan....call me:up:

MY GOD! Nolan would be stupid NOT to choose You! And then he could hire me as the penguin for i too am a fat portly short man with webbed hands and feet. It's a condition i call penguitus

Heh Heh i wish

Ronny Shade
04-19-2006, 11:08 PM
Pretty sure we did this already. Look for the Bat-rumors amalgamated thread. Roundabouts page 3.

LoGaN's RuNNer
04-19-2006, 11:24 PM
hey like I said before, an unknown Australlian HAS worked in the past for a comic book movie!!!!!!!!:wolverine
why not :joker: ?
Yeah it did.:wolverine:wolverine

Keyser Sushi
04-19-2006, 11:49 PM
Yeah it did.:wolverine:wolverine

It did work, but that doesn't mean anything, really. I mean, just because they're both Australian actors doesn't mean they're comparable in quality, or in their ability to portray entirely different characters.

RedIsNotBlue
04-20-2006, 12:50 AM
Ummm am I the only one who realizes that The-Night and Dr Mid-Nite are the same person?? Haha.

The-Night
04-20-2006, 06:56 PM
Ummm am I the only one who realizes that The-Night and Dr Mid-Nite are the same person?? Haha.

The flop are you talking about?

Dr. Mid-Nite
04-20-2006, 10:37 PM
Ummm am I the only one who realizes that The-Night and Dr Mid-Nite are the same person?? Haha.

Oh right, just because we're both noobs to the Hype? C'mon, I guess for you it would be like Red Is Blue. :rolleyes:

Katsuro
04-20-2006, 10:40 PM
Oh right, just because we're both noobs to the Hype? C'mon, I guess for you it would be like Red Is Blue. :rolleyes:

Well I'm not saying you are the same person, but I can see where someone might get that idea. Similar join date, both with "Night" in the name, and you seem to have the same opinions.

Keyser Sushi
04-20-2006, 10:45 PM
I think Dr. Mid-Nite is one of The-Night's homees that he got to join here instead of continue to suffer in the hell that is IMDb, henceforther referred to as "Imm'duh-buh."

Ronny Shade
04-21-2006, 01:00 AM
"Imm'duh-buh"
lol

sounds like Imhotep's brother.

The-Night
04-21-2006, 08:43 PM
I think Dr. Mid-Nite is one of The-Night's homees that he got to join here instead of continue to suffer in the hell that is IMDb, henceforther referred to as "Imm'duh-buh."

Sorry fellows, but we are two diffrent people, well back on the topic. When do you think Hulme will be signed? any ideas on dates? Late 2006 early 2007? what do you think?

StorminNorman
04-21-2006, 09:43 PM
When hell freezes over :D

Keyser Sushi
04-21-2006, 09:47 PM
"Imm'duh-buh"
lol

sounds like Imhotep's brother.

More like Bubba-ho-tep's brother. :D


Sorry fellows, but we are two diffrent people, well back on the topic. When do you think Hulme will be signed? any ideas on dates? Late 2006 early 2007? what do you think?


You got a reading comprehension problem there, Loot? I never said you were the same person.

The-Night
04-22-2006, 12:13 PM
More like Bubba-ho-tep's brother. :D



You got a reading comprehension problem there, Loot? I never said you were the same person.

NO, I don't have a reading comprehension, it's just that I get green when I get mad. It's not a enjoyable time!!!:down

The-Night
04-22-2006, 12:14 PM
When hell freezes over :D

No, I said Hulme not Bettany!

RedIsNotBlue
04-22-2006, 01:47 PM
The-Night you are starting to get on my nerves as much as Stormin...haha. Okay...let me type BIG this time because apparently even though I have said it numerous times in the past it still is not getting through to some people. WE ARE STILL IN THE SPECULATION/RUMOR STAGE. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT ANYONE IS EVEN CLOSE TO BEING SIGNED. NAMES ARE JUST BEING THROWN AROUND STILL AT THIS POINT. ANYONE HAS A CHANCE AT THIS POINT.

The-Night
04-22-2006, 02:35 PM
The-Night you are starting to get on my nerves as much as Stormin...haha. Okay...let me type BIG this time because apparently even though I have said it numerous times in the past it still is not getting through to some people. WE ARE STILL IN THE SPECULATION/RUMOR STAGE. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT ANYONE IS EVEN CLOSE TO BEING SIGNED. NAMES ARE JUST BEING THROWN AROUND STILL AT THIS POINT. ANYONE HAS A CHANCE AT THIS POINT.

Hey man, I've said it before I have an open mind when it comes to The Joker, if Hulme get's the role or if Bettany get's it I know I for one will not be dissapointed why.......................
IN NOLAN I TRUST
besides what fun is it if someone does not stand up against all those Bettany or bust people??

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 02:54 PM
Hey man, I've said it before I have an open mind when it comes to The Joker, if Hulme get's the role or if Bettany get's it I know I for one will not be dissapointed why.......................
IN NOLAN I TRUST
besides what fun is it if someone does not stand up against all those Bettany or bust people??

Boy it's gonna suck when the Bat-Curse strikes again. For those of you who don't know, the Bat-Curse is what I've nick named all the even numbered Bat-movies.
89 = Great (Batman #1)
Returns (While good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie) = Bad (#2)
Forever = Decent = Could have been better could have been A Lot Worse (#3)
B&R = What I ment by "A Lot Worse" as seen above (4)
Begins = Excellent. (Not the same franchise, but still in terms of a Bat-movie none-the-less). (#5)
Begins Sequal = #6

As much as we thank Nolan, the man is not God. Hell, anyone on here would have thought Burton was a Bat-God after 89. I'm not dissing Returns at all, I love Returns........as a Burton movie. As Jett on BOF said, "It's a tim burton film with Batman Characters". Still, we have too much bad luck with directors getting their feet wet with Batman and then going to town with "their vision" of batman. (See: Batman & Robin.........actually, DON'T See: Batman & Robin).
I'm not saying Nolan will definatly flop the next movie, but if there's one thing we can learn from History, it's not to put all our eggs in his basket.
And even now so, look at what's happened already? They've pretty much taken Goyer out of the equation and he's the main reason the film had such strong comic books roots. Granted we got some sucky one-liners from him too, but the majority of comic book based scenes were from him, and now he's been substituted with Nolans's brother, Lord here we go.........


oh and By the way, as far as Joker goes,

Bettany = Eccleston > Hulme

The-Night
04-22-2006, 02:57 PM
Boy it's gonna suck when the Bat-Curse strikes again. For those of you who don't know, the Bat-Curse is what I've nick named all the even numbered Bat-movies.
89 = Great (Batman #1)
Returns (While good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie) = Bad (#2)
Forever = Decent = Could have been better could have been A Lot Worse (#3)
B&R = What I ment by "A Lot Worse" as seen above (4)
Begins = Excellent. (Not the same franchise, but still in terms of a Bat-movie none-the-less). (#5)
Begins Sequal = #6

As much as we thank Nolan, the man is not God. Hell, anyone on here would have thought Burton was a Bat-God after 89. I'm not dissing Returns at all, I love Returns........as a Burton movie. As Jett on BOF said, "It's a tim burton film with Batman Characters". Still, we have too much bad luck with directors getting their feet wet with Batman and then going to town with "their vision" of batman. (See: Batman & Robin.........actually, DON'T See: Batman & Robin).
I'm not saying Nolan will definatly flop the next movie, but if there's one thing we can learn from History, it's not to put all our eggs in his basket.
And even now so, look at what's happened already? They've pretty much taken Goyer out of the equation and he's the main reason the film had such strong comic books roots. Granted we got some sucky one-liners from him too, but the majority of comic book based scenes were from him, and now he's been substituted with Nolans's brother, Lord here we go.........


oh and By the way, as far as Joker goes,

Bettany = Eccleston > Hulme

I really, really, really doubt the so called "batman curse" will happen with Nolan and Bale still on board and espically if Jonathan Nolan will be writing the screenplay. The sequel will surpass the Begins not only in $, but quite possibly in quality. I really doubt we'll have many one liners in this one!!!!
one of the very few flaws in BB! If anything the sequel will be quite possibly the greatest super hero movie of all time!! Spider-man 2 nothing!!!!!!

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 03:00 PM
Maybe so, I'm still not giving Nolan all my support until I see the sequal. Blind faith never appeals to me.....not after all we've been through with Burton and Schmuckacker. (And yes I spelled that wrong on purpose)

The-Night
04-22-2006, 03:06 PM
Maybe so, I'm still not giving Nolan all my support until I see the sequal. Blind faith never appeals to me.....not after all we've been through with Burton and Schmuckacker. (And yes I spelled that wrong on purpose)

well keep in mind that Goyer did write the treatmeant for this movie so the comic book wisdom is in tact. Nolan has all my support, he just seems like the kind of director that knows what he's doing, I think when The Prestige comes out your appeal to blind faith will change whenit comes to Nolan as a director!!

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 03:11 PM
well keep in mind that Goyer did write the treatmeant for this movie so the comic book wisdom is in tact. Nolan has all my support, he just seems like the kind of director that knows what he's doing, I think when The Prestige comes out your appeal to blind faith will change whenit comes to Nolan as a director!!

Prestige has nothing to do with Batman Films IMO, I've seen and love memento and insomnia. Great movies, he's an awsome director. But I also love Tim Burton's Big Fish and Nightmare Before Christmas. I love Schumacher's "A time to kill" and I even like Phonebooth. It shows that the guy does know how to direct some well made films. But we also have seen what they've done in Batman movies. Outside movies have no influence on what happens in the Begins sequal. I like Nolan, I really do, I just have come to the point where I can't ever fully trust a director with Batman. If Begins 2 does what we're all hoping it does, cuz I am hoping it does too, then I will have all my faith in him. But until I leave the theatre in June 2008, I'll stick with my own gut instincts.

The-Night
04-22-2006, 03:16 PM
Prestige has nothing to do with Batman Films IMO, I've seen and love memento and insomnia. Great movies, he's an awsome director. But I also love Tim Burton's Big Fish and Nightmare Before Christmas. I love Schumacher's "A time to kill" and I even like Phonebooth. It shows that the guy does know how to direct some well made films. But we also have seen what they've done in Batman movies. Outside movies have no influence on what happens in the Begins sequal. I like Nolan, I really do, I just have come to the point where I can't ever fully trust a director with Batman. If Begins 2 does what we're all hoping it does, cuz I am hoping it does too, then I will have all my faith in him. But until I leave the theatre in June 2008, I'll stick with my own gut instincts.

Yeah I guess you're right, but still Nolan seems like to smart of a man to screw this up. BUt we are going to have to wait and see!!!!

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
Very true my man. Very true. And props to you for being able to discuss this with me like a mature adult and agree to disagree, unlike some other people on here.

L0ngsh0t
04-22-2006, 03:49 PM
Boy it's gonna suck when the Bat-Curse strikes again. For those of you who don't know, the Bat-Curse is what I've nick named all the even numbered Bat-movies.
89 = Great (Batman #1)
Returns (While good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie) = Bad (#2)
Forever = Decent = Could have been better could have been A Lot Worse (#3)
B&R = What I ment by "A Lot Worse" as seen above (4)
Begins = Excellent. (Not the same franchise, but still in terms of a Bat-movie none-the-less). (#5)
Begins Sequal = #6

As much as we thank Nolan, the man is not God. Hell, anyone on here would have thought Burton was a Bat-God after 89. I'm not dissing Returns at all, I love Returns........as a Burton movie. As Jett on BOF said, "It's a tim burton film with Batman Characters". Still, we have too much bad luck with directors getting their feet wet with Batman and then going to town with "their vision" of batman. (See: Batman & Robin.........actually, DON'T See: Batman & Robin).
I'm not saying Nolan will definatly flop the next movie, but if there's one thing we can learn from History, it's not to put all our eggs in his basket.
And even now so, look at what's happened already? They've pretty much taken Goyer out of the equation and he's the main reason the film had such strong comic books roots. Granted we got some sucky one-liners from him too, but the majority of comic book based scenes were from him, and now he's been substituted with Nolans's brother, Lord here we go.........


oh and By the way, as far as Joker goes,

Bettany = Eccleston > Hulme


actually all of those except nolans masterpiece, are terrible terrible movies, batman one has the most rediculous fighting of all time in it, a prince themed robbery, and stupid clown jokes that the joker from the comics would be offended by...

batman forever's one shinning momment was tommy lee jones portrayel of the psycho two face but they never even touched the human side of him, so even that is a bit flawed

the reason people are putting such high faith in christopher nolan is because he has delivered the one thing that no incarnation of batman in other media but the comics/graphic novels have done, and put him in tthe dark envoirment of crime ridden gotham, giving the man (bruce wayne) his flaws, his weaknesses, giving batman an origin, and actually telling a story instead of putting cash cow names infront of the screen and telling them to tell lame jokes, and all micheal keaton has to do is stick his arm out and the criminals will run into it...

nolan has earned the faith that people are showing him, and i for one say let them give it

Ronny Shade
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
B89: Good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie.
BReturns: Good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie.
BForever: Terrible, but sorta funny
B&R: Really terrible, but really funny
BBegins: Genius.
BB2: either really genius or just genius

ArmsHeldOut
04-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Yeah I guess you're right, but still Nolan seems like to smart of a man to screw this up. BUt we are going to have to wait and see!!!!


And I agree with you Night. Having watched the "special features" Batman Begins disc, my admiration for those involved with the production of Begins has grown immensely. The amount of hard work and attention to even the slightest of details, e.g, making the batmobile a truly authentic functional machine, deserves our admiration. Hats off to them.

I think back to initial reactions from fans who were then exposed to the leaked Begins script. Many of them had trouble conceiving how a story of such length and magnitude would ever successfully translate to film in roughly two hours. Nonetheless, Nolan and company delivered in spades! We got it all.
With that stated, I feel there is less pressure in developing the sequel as there is no longer a need to redefine and introduce the character's origins. Audiences know that daddy's back and this gives Nolan and company the opportunity to really just move forward and focus on what a Dark Knight in his prime can really do.

In my opinion, the only curse that might have befallen the franchise was the release of Batman and Robin, but Schumacher's awful film no longer hangs over the future of Gotham like a Damoclean Sword.
In the hands of a lesser man, the ball would likely drop, but in Nolan .. I trust.

BTW, if you close your eyes every time the Penguin appears (in Batman Returns) and pretend he isn't there, Burton's sequel is alright! I enjoyed the chemistry between Keaton and Michelle.

RedIsNotBlue
04-23-2006, 01:35 PM
I like how every franchise goes wrong because of a "curse". Grow up...lol. It goes wrong because of how the movie is handled and we still have the pretty much the same team for BB2 so all is well.

StorminNorman
04-23-2006, 02:12 PM
B89: Good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie.
BReturns: Good as a Burton flick, a horrible Batman movie.
BForever: Terrible, but sorta funny
B&R: Really terrible, but really funny
BBegins: Genius.
BB2: either really genius or just genius

:up:
Reason 7821 Why RONNY SHADE is better than you......

Mr. Socko
04-23-2006, 02:16 PM
actually all of those except nolans masterpiece, are terrible terrible movies, batman one has the most rediculous fighting of all time in it, a prince themed robbery, and stupid clown jokes that the joker from the comics would be offended by...



Batman '89 a terrible terrible movie?



batman forever's one shinning momment was tommy lee jones portrayel of the psycho two face but they never even touched the human side of him, so even that is a bit flawed

the reason people are putting such high faith in christopher nolan is because he has delivered the one thing that no incarnation of batman in other media but the comics/graphic novels have done, and put him in tthe dark envoirment of crime ridden gotham, giving the man (bruce wayne) his flaws, his weaknesses, giving batman an origin, and actually telling a story instead of putting cash cow names infront of the screen and telling them to tell lame jokes, and all micheal keaton has to do is stick his arm out and the criminals will run into it...

nolan has earned the faith that people are showing him, and i for one say let them give it

I stoped reading there.:down

StorminNorman
04-23-2006, 02:24 PM
actually all of those except nolans masterpiece, are terrible terrible movies, batman one has the most rediculous fighting of all time in it, a prince themed robbery, and stupid clown jokes that the joker from the comics would be offended by...

batman forever's one shinning momment was tommy lee jones portrayel of the psycho two face but they never even touched the human side of him, so even that is a bit flawed

the reason people are putting such high faith in christopher nolan is because he has delivered the one thing that no incarnation of batman in other media but the comics/graphic novels have done, and put him in tthe dark envoirment of crime ridden gotham, giving the man (bruce wayne) his flaws, his weaknesses, giving batman an origin, and actually telling a story instead of putting cash cow names infront of the screen and telling them to tell lame jokes, and all micheal keaton has to do is stick his arm out and the criminals will run into it...

nolan has earned the faith that people are showing him, and i for one say let them give it

I keep losing respect for you my good man. For one Batman and Batman Returns (while not the most faithful Batman movies) are fantastic movies, Returns moreso than Batman 89. Plus have you read the original Batman comics? The Joker constantly had "themed" plots and many of the Jokes made by Nicholson were intellectual compared to the early comics.

Also the entire Two-Face character was bad IMO, the "psyco" party of Two-Face was little more than some sort of strange bastard child of Nicholson's Joker and Carrey's Riddler - not exactly a good combo.

Mr. Socko
04-23-2006, 02:26 PM
Atleast Jim's Riddler was funny at some parts and The Riddler has been known to be portrayed as an over the top character at times. While Two Face has NEVER been known as a funnyman, he's always the serious character. Tom Jones are poorly mis-directed with Joel Shoemaker.

StorminNorman
04-23-2006, 02:41 PM
Has the Riddler ever been portrayed as a flaming homosexual - outside of Forever?

JOYGASM!

Mr. Socko
04-23-2006, 02:55 PM
Has the Riddler ever been portrayed as a flaming homosexual - outside of Forever?

JOYGASM!

Lol, so funny. That line was also very disturbing, hearing it in a Batman movie.

No, but he was quite nutty in the 60s comics and tv show wearing spandex suit. Orange hair was something added to Forever to make him seem gayer.

But hey, Joel made alot of the Batman characters gay because he's a homosexual himself.

But the point is The Riddler has been over-the-top in many Batman comics so it wasn't going to kill anyone by making The Riddler wear a spandex suit and yell out corny lines. But Two Face...thats a different story, Joel ruined him completely.

The-Night
04-24-2006, 06:37 PM
Lol, so funny. That line was also very disturbing, hearing it in a Batman movie.

No, but he was quite nutty in the 60s comics and tv show wearing spandex suit. Orange hair was something added to Forever to make him seem gayer.

But hey, Joel made alot of the Batman characters gay because he's a homosexual himself.

But the point is The Riddler has been over-the-top in many Batman comics so it wasn't going to kill anyone by making The Riddler wear a spandex suit and yell out corny lines. But Two Face...thats a different story, Joel ruined him completely.

You know with Jonathan Nolan writing the script I bet there is a very good chance of seeing the riddler in one of the next upcoming sequels or at least an Edward Nigma , I mean yeah Joker and Two-face are going to be the main villains, but I think the Riddler can really be done realisticly and very smart!!!!

Ronny Shade
04-24-2006, 06:43 PM
Lol, so funny. That line was also very disturbing, hearing it in a Batman movie.

No, but he was quite nutty in the 60s comics and tv show wearing spandex suit. Orange hair was something added to Forever to make him seem gayer.

But hey, Joel made alot of the Batman characters gay because he's a homosexual himself.

But the point is The Riddler has been over-the-top in many Batman comics so it wasn't going to kill anyone by making The Riddler wear a spandex suit and yell out corny lines. But Two Face...thats a different story, Joel ruined him completely.

I hardly think he made them gay BECAUSE he's also gay. That was probably a part of it, yeah, but are any of the characters in The Lost Boys flaming? How about Flatliners? Nope and Nope.

The Forever/Robin thing I believe was more a result of poor scripting and bad production than it was Schumacher'd direction. Joel's only fault was going along with the big commercial. I bet if David Cronenberg had done Batman Forever it would have ruled, however it would also have been rated R and that would never fly.

The-Night
04-24-2006, 07:04 PM
Someone should manip this
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The-Night
04-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Very true my man. Very true. And props to you for being able to discuss this with me like a mature adult and agree to disagree, unlike some other people on here.

likewise my amigo!!!!!