Do you think the beginning of SR will be like the beginning of Star Trek III?

[TheSumOfGod]

Bryan Singer is a HUGE Star Trek fan, we all know this. From his cameo on the bridge of the Enterprise in ST: Nemesis, to his totally ripping-off the end of The Wrath of Khan for X2, the man loves his Trek. Star Trek III started with the end of The Wrath of Khan, when Spock dies. Do you think SR will start with the end of Superman 2 (redone with Routh), when General Zod dies? Just wondering.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

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honestly? no..i really think it will be like The first superman..starting with comic bood screens..then moving off toward the stars...superman music Blazing..and updated Supes Wording..you know the blue names.. then we will arrive in space with the ship and supes asleep inside..he wakes up and we start to see the remains of Krypton.

[TheSumOfGod]

It would be cool to see Terence Stamp again... ;)

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

That is true..

ZOD : "kneel before ZOD!"

Superman : "**** that zod!!! i'm avin ya."

[Mentok]

Bryan Singer is a HUGE Star Trek fan, we all know this. From his cameo on the bridge of the Enterprise in ST: Nemesis, to his totally ripping-off the end of The Wrath of Khan for X2, the man loves his Trek. Star Trek III started with the end of The Wrath of Khan, when Spock dies. Do you think SR will start with the end of Superman 2 (redone with Routh), when General Zod dies? Just wondering.

No, Singer said he wont be redoing scenes from the first two with Routh. He will however recap previous events in another form.

Seems to be a mix of footage from the films and comic pages.

[Cinemaman]

I see it only STM's way with new titles.

[Showtime]

I thought that Singer was filling in the blanks in that Donner left behind? Different stages in Clark's childhood in Smallville and what not.

[explode7]

Star Trek? People actually watch that old movie anymore.:p I mean c'mon its in bloddy black and white.

[TheSumOfGod]

^No it's not. :confused:

[KaptainKrypton]

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honestly? no..i really think it will be like The first superman..starting with comic bood screens..then moving off toward the stars...superman music Blazing..and updated Supes Wording..you know the blue names.. then we will arrive in space with the ship and supes asleep inside..he wakes up and we start to see the remains of Krypton.
Testify!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KaptainKrypton]

Star Trek? People actually watch that old movie anymore.:p I mean c'mon its in bloddy black and white.
Star Trek III came out in 1984, man. I seem to recall color being around at least a few years before that.

[Super_Ludacris]

Wtf?@ this

[Kane]

I want a review of past events in the opening akin to Superman II...with Routh, Spacey and Bosworth in the place Reeve, HackMan, and Kidder.

That will clarify whats changed and whats the same.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I want a review of past events in the opening akin to Superman II...with Routh, Spacey and Bosworth in the place Reeve, HackMan, and Kidder.

That will clarify whats changed and whats the same.

HackMan? Is he like NuclearMan?

[Kane]

HackMan? Is he like NuclearMan?

Watch South Park....you'll get it then.

[Naite22]

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honestly? no..i really think it will be like The first superman..starting with comic bood screens..then moving off toward the stars...superman music Blazing..and updated Supes Wording..you know the blue names.. then we will arrive in space with the ship and supes asleep inside..he wakes up and we start to see the remains of Krypton.
I WILL be like the opening in Superman 1!:up: This superman is a timeless film (acording to Singer).. It stands as a loner, but it will richten your experience if you watch the first two superman movies... But there will be NO exactly references to superman 2 in the opening of Returns, that you can count on.

[TheBlueWolf]

I think there will be some NODS to Star Trek...Singer really digs it, as he should. He had Trek nods in X-MEN and X-MEN 2...and supposedly he had some in Usual Suspects, but I can't remember what they were. Hmmm...this is off topic, but I think Mr. Singer could totally revitalize Star Trek, if given the chance. He certainly has passion for it!

[Showtime]

I have never seen Star Trek in any form so I wouldn't know.

[Mentok]

HackMan? Is he like NuclearMan?

ROFL :up:

[AgentPat]

I have never seen Star Trek in any form so I wouldn't know.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/stunned.gif

Wha....? Really? WOW! I mean, really... WOW!!!! LOL

[db85usa]

I think it will start off opening in the universe and we hear unheard dialogue from Jor-El.

[KrypJonian]

I guess it would be a backward step, but I've always loved the idea of doing some quick recap shots (ala beginning of SII) using Routh instead.

I woulda dug it.

[Kane]

I guess it would be a backward step, but I've always loved the idea of doing some quick recap shots (ala beginning of SII) using Routh instead.

I woulda dug it.

Thatd be awesome.

[Showtime]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/stunned.gif

Wha....? Really? WOW! I mean, really... WOW!!!! LOL

None of the movies, none of the t.v. show incarnations.

I haven't seen any of the newer Star War movies, even though they are really the first 3.

I haven't seen any of the James Bond movies.

I have probably seen more movies than most, but none of the above.

:ghost: :up:

[AgentPat]

None of the movies, none of the t.v. show incarnations.That's just... wrong. LOL I can't imagine growing up w/o having some Trek on the tube.

I haven't seen any of the newer Star War movies, even though they are really the first 3.I've seen 'em, but the last two I just waited for the DVD. Sacrilege, I know.

I haven't seen any of the James Bond movies.I stopped watching when Roger Moore left. LOL

I have probably seen more movies than most, but none of the above.Well, we probably have something in common then 'cause I've seen a LOT of films as well, but many are older pics. The new stuff today just doesn't blow my skirt up most of the time.

Hey, Showtime, where in Boston are you?

[Super_Ludacris]

None of the movies, none of the t.v. show incarnations.

I haven't seen any of the newer Star War movies, even though they are really the first 3.

I haven't seen any of the James Bond movies.

I have probably seen more movies than most, but none of the above.

:ghost: :up:



That's real

[redisnotbrown]

cant believe people never watch star trek,

its bloody awesome stuff,

and to top it off, Captain Picard is the chancellor of my bro's university, huddersfield,

isn't that cool or what!!

captain picard aka professor xavier comes to present you with your degree!!

how cool is that!

[SuperDaniel]

Well, i personaly don`t like STar Trek at all. So i won`t even bother in watching the movies or the TV series...

[TheBlueWolf]

Um, just out of curiosity, what is it that you do not like about Star Trek? The sci-fi theme? I mean, some of the shows and movies are like apples and oranges in comparison...kinda like comparing Adam West Batman with Batman Begins...or the comics.

[Naite22]

^ I'm not to crazy about star trek either, but my two brothers are.. I love Star Wars, so I tried watching some of the old series (star trek that is), and I didn't really think to much of it.. Than i saw The movie "Generation" (isn't that what it's called?!) Anyway I thought that was really cool..

[tabLengle]

Bryan Singer is a HUGE Star Trek fan, we all know this. From his cameo on the bridge of the Enterprise in ST: Nemesis, to his totally ripping-off the end of The Wrath of Khan for X2, the man loves his Trek. Star Trek III started with the end of The Wrath of Khan, when Spock dies. Do you think SR will start with the end of Superman 2 (redone with Routh), when General Zod dies? Just wondering.

OMFG people still expect to see General Zod. What is wrong with you.

[Captain Villa]

Bryan Singer is a HUGE Star Trek fan, we all know this. From his cameo on the bridge of the Enterprise in ST: Nemesis, to his totally ripping-off the end of The Wrath of Khan for X2, the man loves his Trek. Star Trek III started with the end of The Wrath of Khan, when Spock dies. Do you think SR will start with the end of Superman 2 (redone with Routh), when General Zod dies? Just wondering.

Zod is not dead - Find the Donner version of S2 and you will see all 3 of them alive.

[Showtime]

That's just... wrong. LOL I can't imagine growing up w/o having some Trek on the tube.

I've seen 'em, but the last two I just waited for the DVD. Sacrilege, I know.

I stopped watching when Roger Moore left. LOL

Well, we probably have something in common then 'cause I've seen a LOT of films as well, but many are older pics. The new stuff today just doesn't blow my skirt up most of the time.

Hey, Showtime, where in Boston are you?

Everytime I saw Star Trek on television I changed the channel. I don't know what it is but I couldn't get into it.

I like the "blow my skirt up" line, I usually use "doesn't blow my hair back".

I am actually about 10 minutes out of the city, but just list it as Boston to make easier for all involved.

[Super_Ludacris]

Star Trek is some stuff that doesnt intrest me either, seen a few episodes here or there as a child but never caught my intrest.

[Metropolis_Man]

I think it would be nice, after the credits, for it to open up with him about to land at the remains of krypton. And he finds nothing and has his journey back. Maybe then it does a "6 years later" at the bottom of the screen, and it shows the ship come crashing down in smallville at the farm again.

[AgentPat]

Everytime I saw Star Trek on television I changed the channel. I don't know what it is but I couldn't get into it.You're allowed. ;)

I like the "blow my skirt up" line, I usually use "doesn't blow my hair back".Hee! That works too.

I am actually about 10 minutes out of the city, but just list it as Boston to make easier for all involved.Well, I'm in Woburn on the Winchester line. :)

The reason why I ask is... well... as the June 30th date grows nearer with each passing day, my husband's teases about dragging me by the hair into the theater on that day grow exponentially. It's a bit of a game, y'see, since he's had to put up with cruel and unusual punishment every Thursday night for the last year and then some. *ahem* I've kind of resigned myself to the fact that he's gonna get his pound of retribution. LOL If you're looking for fans to pal with on that day - even fans from the Evil Empire *giggle* - I think it would be a hoot. Just lemme know. :D

[Showtime]

You're allowed. ;)

Hee! That works too.

Well, I'm in Woburn on the Winchester line. :)

The reason why I ask is... well... as the June 30th date grows nearer with each passing day, my husband's teases about dragging me by the hair into the theater on that day grow exponentially. It's a bit of a game, y'see, since he's had to put up with cruel and unusual punishment every Thursday night for the last year and then some. *ahem* I've kind of resigned myself to the fact that he's gonna get his pound of retribution. LOL If you're looking for fans to pal with on that day - even fans from the Evil Empire *giggle* - I think it would be a hoot. Just lemme know. :D

Very nice. I grew up in Medford actually and now I live in Melrose, you're very close to me. :eek:

I will let you know when the time gets closer, I might be in Maine because it's near July 4th. I'll keep you posted. ;)

[explode7]

Did Star Trek ever make any money at the BO?

[AgentPat]

Very nice. I grew up in Medford actually and now I live in Melrose, you're very close to me. :eek:

I will let you know when the time gets closer, I might be in Maine because it's near July 4th. I'll keep you posted. ;)Melrose?! :eek: I bet your comic shop is Webhead in Wakefield, init?

Oh, this would be too funny. Okay, if you're around that w/e, gimme a shout. Talk about one helluva Détente. LMAO!!!

[explode7]

Only 76 M.

[SuperDaniel]

Um, just out of curiosity, what is it that you do not like about Star Trek? The sci-fi theme? I mean, some of the shows and movies are like apples and oranges in comparison...kinda like comparing Adam West Batman with Batman Begins...or the comics.
Well...its not for my tastes. I don`t like sci-fi movies that much. I just think its a stupid TV series. Yes, i`ve seen some episodes and they`re nowhere as good as Star Wars for me.

I love Star Wars but they were never Sci-Fi movies for me. They are epic and very psychollogical, something Lucas totally forgot in his prequels and became a CGI crap fest.

[explode7]

Crap Fest, HAHAHAHAHAHA:up:

[SuperDaniel]

Well, Except the last movie. That was pretty good but not as good as the old movies for sure!!

[Showtime]

Melrose?! :eek: I bet your comic shop is Webhead in Wakefield, init?

Oh, this would be too funny. Okay, if you're around that w/e, gimme a shout. Talk about one helluva Détente. LMAO!!!

Although I've just recently gotten into comics in the last couple years, I used to buy all my Superman T-Shirts there, I think I had 11 in total back in the day.

Mostly I just read comics to research the source material.

[HULK LOVER]

All I Know It Will Be Cool!!

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I like The Next Generation, some of Deep Space Nine, and a very few amount of Voyager episodes. I loved Star Treks 2, 4, 6, and 8, haha, yes the 'even' ones except 10 which wasn't terrible IMO only not worthy of the other ones. Wrath of Khan is the greatest ST movie ever. Even people who don't like ST all that much can probably enjoy this.

I'm a much bigger Star Wars fan, although I despise the first two prequels. Revenge of the Sith was terrific though, finally a 'real' Star Wars prequel movie with some of the best moments, imagery, and emotion in the entire trilogy.

[Showtime]

I like The Next Generation, some of Deep Space Nine, and a very few amount of Voyager episodes. I loved Star Treks 2, 4, 6, and 8, haha, yes the 'even' ones except 10 which wasn't terrible IMO only not worthy of the other ones. Wrath of Khan is the greatest ST movie ever. Even people who don't like ST all that much can probably enjoy this.

I'm a much bigger Star Wars fan, although I despise the first two prequels. Revenge of the Sith was terrific though, finally a 'real' Star Wars prequel movie with some of the best moments, imagery, and emotion in the entire trilogy.

I will definately check out the Star Wars films at some point, followed by the Bond movies. Never will I check out Star Trek.

[skruloos]

I will definately check out the Star Wars films at some point, followed by the Bond movies. Never will I check out Star Wars.
You're going to check out Star Wars but not Star Wars?

If you meant Star Trek, I seriously think you'd be missing out. 2,4, and 6 are great films with a lot of different themes and actually deal with some political and social ideas as real Sci-Fi should.

[Fatboy Roberts]

As far as Star Trek goes, the first movie is probably the most sincere in it's attempts to really mine some serious Sci-Fi ground. I do agree that Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is a great little pulp actioner. It's no mistake that Skru mentions 2, 4, and 6, as they're all helmed and written by Nicholas Meyer, who exercises his Shakespeare fetish to very nice results. I personally prefer First Contact to all of those except II, and those two are the only ones I really watch, but I do think you'd enjoy II, IV and VI.

As far as Star Wars goes, I've always found those movies are entirely more enjoyable once you divorce all that "magic of myth" claptrap that was built around the films since 77 as a way to explain why they made so much money. So much of that got built so much that eventually there was no way these space operas could sustain the weight of importance placed on them. They're amazing eye candy with ridiculous sound design and a decent plot to hang it all on. Look at Star Wars movies that way and I guarantee you'll have way more fun with them.

[Showtime]

You're going to check out Star Wars but not Star Wars?

If you meant Star Trek, I seriously think you'd be missing out. 2,4, and 6 are great films with a lot of different themes and actually deal with some political and social ideas as real Sci-Fi should.

BIG TYPO, I meant Star Wars and not Star Trek.

[Showtime]

Based on Skru's and Fatboy's reccomendations I will have to check out both Star Wars and Trek.

[skruloos]

As far as Star Trek goes, the first movie is probably the most sincere in it's attempts to really mine some serious Sci-Fi ground. I do agree that Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is a great little pulp actioner. It's no mistake that Skru mentions 2, 4, and 6, as they're all helmed and written by Nicholas Meyer, who exercises his Shakespeare fetish to very nice results. I personally prefer First Contact to all of those except II, and those two are the only ones I really watch, but I do think you'd enjoy II, IV and VI.
Star Trek 4 was actually directed by Leonard Nimoy. 4 is just great because it's a Star Trek movie that doesn't take itself too seriously and its the most quotable. But it's not a bad movie by any means. The humor is fairly well written and it looks like the cast has a lot of fun with it. The movie is essentially a heist movie with a lot of great characters.

6, I think, is just as Sci-Fi as The Motion Picture, although more in an HG Wells/Jules Verne way rather than Asimov. It's deals with high adventure and a bit of the nautical themes that Verne had in 20,000 Leagues but was also an allegory for the fall of Communist USSR. If Star Trek 4 was their heist movie, then 6 is their political thriller with a good murder mystery built into it.


As far as Star Wars goes, I've always found those movies are entirely more enjoyable once you divorce all that "magic of myth" claptrap that was built around the films since 77 as a way to explain why they made so much money. So much of that got built so much that eventually there was no way these space operas could sustain the weight of importance placed on them. They're amazing eye candy with ridiculous sound design and a decent plot to hang it all on. Look at Star Wars movies that way and I guarantee you'll have way more fun with them.
I would say that only A New Hope was built on the Hero's Myth any way, which is certainly true. The others deviated from it quite a bit.

[Spare-Flair]

Did Star Trek ever make any money at the BO?

Star Trek IV took place in 1986 San Francisco and made the most $110 million at the US box office on a $25 million budget.

Personally, most of the Trek movies are kinda crappy except 6 which is actually a end of the cold war allegory + Shakespeare. Star Trek: The Motion Picture was going for pure sci-fi in the 2001: A Space Odessy kind of way and fumbled a bit. Star Trek IV is just a comedic interlude about people from the future being in a 1980s city.

Most of the TV series are not too good except for the original from the 60s because it was groundbreaking at the time and Deep Space Nine really is the epitome of dark science fiction, especially with the Dominion War, et. al.

I don't know what this "I'll never check out blah blah" stuff is. You just end up missing out due to some kind of stubborness.

Personally however, the three prequels to Star Wars ruined the entire franchise again. I will never watch any Star Wars movie again despite doing so repeatedly during my childhood. Star Wars just leaves a bad taste in my mouth now.

I will however, still enjoy Star Trek Deep Space Nine as some of the best science fiction TV series made (at least from season 3 onward when they get into the actual galactic war). The original Trek, you can enjoy if you realize that it was the 60s and just how revolutionary it was, to even have men and women commanding the ship and be of various races, white, asian, black, and alien. The original Trek had it's share of bad episodes but many famous science fiction writers wrote for it in the 60s. It's a very different beast from modern television.

Bryan Singer cameod in Star Trek Nemesis which would be been a better TV movie than a theatrical movie.

[DocLathropBrown]

Crap Fest, HAHAHAHAHAHA:up:

The level of your intelligence is staggering...

[Showtime]

Looks like Star Trek 11 will have a Superman connection:

Star Trek 11: According to Variety, Paramount is breathing life into its "Star Trek" franchise by setting "Mission: Impossible III" helmer J.J. Abrams to produce and direct the 11th "Trek" feature, aiming for a 2008 release. Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, Abrams' producing team from "Lost," also will produce the yet-to-be-titled feature. Project, to be penned by Abrams and "MI3" scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, will center on the early days of seminal "Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission.

[SIXXDOGG]

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honestly? no..i really think it will be like The first superman..starting with comic bood screens..then moving off toward the stars...superman music Blazing..and updated Supes Wording..you know the blue names.. then we will arrive in space with the ship and supes asleep inside..he wakes up and we start to see the remains of Krypton.

I personally think it will be very similar to the beginning of Aliens where you see the escape pod far off in the distance and it comes towards and past the camera. I think we will see the crystal ship do something like that but as the ship passes the camera, the camera will follow the ship as it heads towards the remains of Krypton.

[COCOViper]

man most of these replys are totally missing the point of the thread...

But I think the evidence:
-story boards of Superman 1 in one of the first singer video blogs...
-The comic book artist Chew Chan being reported as getting to show off his work in the new movie's opening credits ( http://www.supanova.com.au/newsletter/march2006/ )
-and the fact that singer has said that the events of the first two movies, most noteably the destruction that happened and the people that got hurt when Zod showed up led superman to sort of exile himself...

...all leads me to believe a cool version of the Superman II/Spiderman II type intro recapping some important events of the past along with music. After that I think we will cut to space and probally see some stuff with krypton/his new big ship.

[cameron]

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[dark_b]

Folks, the SR movie starts like the first Donner's Superman: red theater curtains, drawn shut. They slowly opens and the film flickers to life fading in on an old issue di Action Comics. The comic-book panels dissolves to footage from the 1978 version di Superman: Jor-El and Lara place the baby Kal-El into a crystal vessel...is this an insider info? :)

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

is this an insider info? :)



considering..he edited the post..i would doubt his credibilty.

[Agnarr]

Of course, I edit my posts just to correct my spelling since I'm compulsive like that. ;)

But who knows. I really don't care how it starts, but it would be neat to see Zod, in some fashion, besides a comic-book recap. Flashbacks during the movie would be even better. Actually, I realize that all I really want to see is Superman getting his @ss kicked! Or maybe Zod's hand getting horribly crushed with bones sticking out and blood dripping everywhere. :)