BOF Report 4/17

[BatMan032886]

Sequel Scuttlebutt for 4/17
Author: Jett
Monday, April 17, 2006 - 8:35 AM CENTRAL TIME: Update on the Katie Holmes not returning rumors -- they are still out there. As is the scuttlebutt of a new female lead. And that’s the key part here, “female lead;” not “love interest” for Batman. As I usually say when it comes to casting, we’ll find out soon enough…

Joker update -- and I’m going to have to be a bit cryptic here, sorry. I got to protect our insiders, so this is the best I can do right now. Just read between the lines. Anyway, it seems that one of the so-called “frontrunners” for the part, may not be in the mix any longer. Perhaps the Bat-folks aren’t interested any longer, or maybe he simply doesn’t want the role…

Speaking of The Joker, I’ve been told that another candidate has emerged. This actor has been rumored for a part in this film previously, but not for The Clown Prince of Crime. More on all of this later, so stay tuned!


^^^What do we think?

[lujho]

Sounds like maybe Bettany is out, and the new candidate... probably Jude Law.

[The Chairman]

Sounds like maybe Bettany is out, and the new candidate... probably Jude Law.

I think it's Gyllenhaal.

[lujho]

Yeah, could be him too.

[nolan's roll'n]

Yep, it looks like the guy wh's being thrown out of the mix is Bettany. Jude Law for the Joker? He's a better choice for Harvey Dent/Two-Face or the Riddler than that. I don't think he's the one who's being considered for the role.

[Milkman95]

Gyllenhaal. Jude Law would make a good Joker though..........hopefully it's him.

[The Chairman]

Yep, it looks like the guy wh's being thrown out of the mix is Bettany.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Two-Face]

I doubt it's Gyllenhaal cos he's been mentioned for canidate but it's someone we haven't heard for the role of Joker or Dent.

[Eddie Dean]

Could it be that Hulme is out?

[The Chairman]

Could it be that Hulme is out?

It's possible, but I doubt it. Hulme is supposedly Nolan's choice, and since I believe has the final say, it means Bettany is out, which is bad.

[Mister J]

Maybe Guy Pearce is the new Joker candidate. He did get some run early on as a possible choice for Dent.

[Two-Face]

If Guy Pearce is in this thei I want him as Dent if not, Liev Schreiber dammit!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I think david tennant should be considerd.

[nolan's roll'n]

We haven't heard anything about what Chris Nolan thinks about who he wants to play Harvey dent. I'm pretty sure it's Liev Schreiber though because he looks the most for the part. He looks like Harvey Dent from The Long Halloween. I haven't seen him act but whatever. I think Chris Nolan's secondary option would be Guy Pearce and his third is Jake Gyllenhaal. I think Guy would have to gain a little weight for the role of Harvey Dent. Though it would be cool to see Guy as Dent, I doubt it will happen. It would be nice to see Guy make another movie with the Nolan brothers, after all Memento turned out to be a success.

[NOFX]

and the new candidate... probably Jude Law.
:joker:

[NOFX]

I think it's Gyllenhaal.
Bahahahhahahahah, NO!

[The Chairman]

Bahahahhahahahah, NO!

Gyllenhal > Law

[NOFX]

Gyllenhal > Law
Law > :joker:
Gyllenhal < :joker:

[The Chairman]

Gyllenhal would make a much better Joker than Law.

Last time I checked the Joker doesn't talk with an ultra thick British accent.

I'm not dissing Law, he's a good actor, but Gyllenhal would make a far better Joker and has the look.

[NOFX]

Gyllenhal would make a much better Joker than Law.

Last time I checked the Joker doesn't talk with an ultra thick British accent.

I'm not dissing Law, he's a good actor, but Gyllenhal would make a far better Joker and has the look.
Gyllenhal has absolutely no characteristic of the joker of any kind!!! He has a pussy ass voice! He's face looks nothing like the joker!!! The mere sight of Gyllenhal in gotham city would only further turn on the 16 years girls of gotham city to rape him!

[The Chairman]

Gyllenhal has absolutely no characteristic of the joker of any kind!!! He has a pussy ass voice! He's face looks nothing like the joker!!! The mere sight of Gyllenhal in gotham city would only further turn on the 16 years girls of gotham city to rape him!

I strongly disagree with you. He has a creepy smile, he's tall, he's a great actor, he has the right facial structure, what more do you want. The only problem is that he'd need to lose the muscle he put on for Jarhead so he can get the tall, lanky look.

I'd prefer Bettany, but Jake would be awesome!

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00186/Jake_Gyllenhaal_186491c.jpg
http://www.reflections.it/interviste/2004/jake_gyllenhaal/01.jpg
http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/g/gyllenhaal/Vespa_5884067_Max.jpg
http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Jake%20Gyllenhaal%20-%201%20-%20Brokeback%20Mountain.jpg

These images are begging to be maniped. In that second pic, he already has the purple suit!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

David Tennant!!!!

[NOFX]

I strongly disagree with you. He has a creepy smile, he's tall, he's a great actor, he has the right facial structure, what more do you want. The only problem is that he'd need to lose the muscle he put on for Jarhead so he can get the tall, lanky look.

I'd prefer Bettany, but Jake would be awesome!

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00186/Jake_Gyllenhaal_186491c.jpg
http://www.reflections.it/interviste/2004/jake_gyllenhaal/01.jpg
http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/g/gyllenhaal/Vespa_5884067_Max.jpg
http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Jake%20Gyllenhaal%20-%201%20-%20Brokeback%20Mountain.jpg

These images are begging to be maniped. In that second pic, he already has the purple suit!
I can totally see the 16 girls getting horny over this instead of being terrified!

[The Chairman]

I can totally see the 16 girls getting horny over this instead of being terrified!

Oh, please. Law is just as popular with teenage girls as Gyllenhal, maybe even more popular. I have a friend who loves Jude Law. She'd love to have him as The Joker.

Your logic is flawed.

[NOFX]

Oh, please. Law is just as popular with teenage girls as Gyllenhal, maybe even more popular. I have a friend who loves Jude Law. She'd love to have him as The Joker.

Your logic is flawed.
I live in So-Cal and there are almost riots at his movie premire!!! None for Jude Law! :cool:

[The Chairman]

I live in So-Cal and there are almost riots at his movie premire!!! None for Jude Law! :cool:

That's because Jude Law's movies are awful.

[NOFX]

That's because Jude Law's movies are awful.
Road To Perdition and Cold Mountain is better than anything Jake has done! And I like to add that Jude Law has 2 oscar nominations to only Jake one!

[The Chairman]

Road To Perdition and Cold Mountain is better than anything Jake has done!

Yeah, everyone loves those films. :confused:

Brokeback Mountain (which to be honest, I have not seen) got quite a few Oscar nominations. He also managed to make the otherwise rediculous Bubbleboy watchable.

Forget Law. Next thing you know you'll want Green Day to make a cameo as The Joker's henhcmen.

[NOFX]

Yeah, everyone loves those films. :confused:

Brokeback Mountain (which to be honest, I have not seen) got quite a few Oscar nominations. He also managed to make the otherwise rediculous Bubbleboy watchable.

Forget Law. Next thing you know you'll want Green Day to make a cameo as The Joker's henhcmen.
Dont be mad because I owned your ass in this thread and the punk thread. And yes everyone loves Road To perdition because this being a comic book fourm and that movie being one the best comic book movie films! :up:

[ragdus]

Maybe Guy Pearce is the new Joker candidate. He did get some run early on as a possible choice for Dent.
I was thinking just last night as I watched my TiVo'd recording of LA Confidential that Pearce might be a good guy for the role. Not a classic joker face, but the guy is a very talented actor and I think would do the part justice.

[DorkyFresh]

if Gyllenhaal gets casted as Joker i'll be flabergasted...

...watching him go nuts on that one dude in Jarhead gave me confidence that he would be a great Joker.

[ragdus]

Joker = Steve Buscemi.

[Robin91939]

At first I though Christopher Eccleson? He was rumored as the Scarecrow, which is a role in a previous Batfilm...but then I saw that it was for BATMAN II.

So I'm going to guess that the new "contender" has to be one of these:

1. Hugh Jackman (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
2. Josh Lucas (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
3. Guy Pierce (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
4. Jude Law (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
5. Jake Gyllenhaal (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
6. Phillip Seymore Hofman (Rumored as Penguin)
7. Ray Liota (Rumored as Moroni)
8. Bob Hoskins (Rumored as Penguin and Mob Boss Maroni)
9. Brad Dourif (Rumored as Doctor Jerimiah Arkham)
10. Liev Schreiber (Rumored as Harvey Dent/ Two-face)

These are the males that have been rumored to have parts that are not the Joker in the BATMAN BEGINS' sequel.


As for the dropped Joker canidate, I'm going to have to say it's Bettany.

FRONTRUNNERS
1. Lachy Hulme
2. Paul Bettany
----------------
3. Hugo Weaving
4. Jude Law
5. Micheal Keaton


Paul is probably looking to not be type casted...he's been the villain in I believe 3 or 4 films in a row now.

-R

[kytrigger]

At first I though Christopher Eccleson? He was rumored as the Scarecrow, which is a role in a previous Batfilm...but then I saw that it was for BATMAN II.

So I'm going to guess that the new "contender" has to be one of these:

1. Hugh Jackman (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
2. Josh Lucas (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
3. Guy Pierce (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
4. Jude Law (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
5. Jake Gyllenhaal (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
6. Phillip Seymore Hofman (Rumored as Penguin)
7. Ray Liota (Rumored as Moroni)
8. Bob Hoskins (Rumored as Penguin and Mob Boss Maroni)
9. Brad Dourif (Rumored as Doctor Jerimiah Arkham)
10. Liev Schreiber (Rumored as Harvey Dent/ Two-face)

These are the males that have been rumored to have parts that are not the Joker in the BATMAN BEGINS' sequel.


As for the dropped Joker canidate, I'm going to have to say it's Bettany.

FRONTRUNNERS
1. Lachy Hulme
2. Paul Bettany
----------------
3. Hugo Weaving
4. Jude Law
5. Micheal Keaton


Paul is probably looking to not be type casted...he's been the villain in I believe 3 or 4 films in a row now.

-R

I'd say right now he isn't really being typecast as a villian. Yes he will be the villian in DaVinci Code, and was a villian in Firewall, but you also have his roles in Wimbledon and Master and Commander.

Although, you are right that there is a very strong chance that whoever is cast as the Joker, has a strong chance of being typecast as a villian/crazy person for the rest of their career, no matter what else they have done.

[DV8]

I'll tell you what I think . . . I think Bettany is definitely OUT, and I think that they're going to look at Christopher Ecclesten as another possible Joker candidate . . . this is interesting; I think Ecclesten is much better suited as the Joker than Bettany, and if it were Ecclesten and Hulme, It'd make it a hard choice

Ecclesten was up for the role of Scarecrow before Murphy nabbed it . . .

[DV8]

At first I though Christopher Eccleson? He was rumored as the Scarecrow, which is a role in a previous Batfilm...but then I saw that it was for BATMAN II.



Awwwww . . . I didn't realize it was for THIS film . . . now I fuackin confused!

Question for you all . . . I can't seem to be able to get to Batman On Film at all . . . it's like it's disappeared as an option when I search . . . . anyone else experiencing this!!??

[The Chairman]

Dont be mad because I owned your ass in this thread and the punk thread. And yes everyone loves Road To perdition because this being a comic book fourm and that movie being one the best comic book movie films! :up:

You owned crap NOFX. This debate is not over.

Gyllenhaal > Law, Green Day and you

[NOFX]

You owned crap NOFX. This debate is not over.

Gyllenhaal > Law, Green Day and you
Thats your best response after I just owned your azz!!! Now that I own your azz I highly recommend that Gyllenhal should be the one owning your azz like he did in Brokeback!

[DV8]

I wouldn't mind seeing Josh Lucas be one of the contenders . . . ever since I saw him in Wonderland, I thought he'd be good . . . I'm still for Hulme, though

[Two-Face]

Question for you all . . . I can't seem to be able to get to Batman On Film at all . . . it's like it's disappeared as an option when I search . . . . anyone else experiencing this!!??


Check your Internet Option on above Tools

[The Chairman]

Thats your best response after I just owned your azz!!! Now that I own your azz I highly recommend that Gyllenhal should be the one owning your azz like he did in Brokeback!

Are you implying that I'm gay, NOFX.

[NOFX]

Are you implying that I'm gay, NOFX.
No, Im implying that Gyllenhaal owns your ****ing azz! :supes:

[The Chairman]

No, Im implying that Gyllenhaal owns your ****ing azz! :supes:

Back off, seriously.

[NOFX]

Back off, seriously.
Word to the wise, dont ever **** with NOFX!:up:

[Maxwell Smart]

Word to the wise, dont ever **** with NOFX!

Wow, your e-penis is huge. :rolleyes:

[ToddIsDead]

I hope it's Bettany that isn't in the running anymore. I'm at the point that I despise the prospect of him playing Joker.

[The Chairman]

Wow, your e-penis is huge. :rolleyes:

Hahahahahahaha!!!

[Two-Face]

At first I though Christopher Eccleson? He was rumored as the Scarecrow, which is a role in a previous Batfilm...but then I saw that it was for BATMAN II.
-R


Christopher Eccleston as Joker would be great and as you said Nolan obviously considered him as Scarecrow why not as Joker too?

[The Chairman]

Eccleston would be fantastic.

[nolan's roll'n]

I think Christopher Eccleston would make have made a great Dr. Crane/ Scarecrow. He to me looks more like Dr.Crane than Cillian Murphy. Nothing against Cillian he's great actor, but I think that if Eccleston is cast as the Joker I wouldn't be dissapointed. I read The Long halloween and he looks just like the Joker who's in that. My first choice is still Lachy Hulme and second would proably be Chris Eccleston.

[The Chairman]

At first I though Christopher Eccleson? He was rumored as the Scarecrow, which is a role in a previous Batfilm...but then I saw that it was for BATMAN II.

So I'm going to guess that the new "contender" has to be one of these:

1. Hugh Jackman (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
2. Josh Lucas (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
3. Guy Pierce (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
4. Jude Law (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
5. Jake Gyllenhaal (Rumored as Harvey Dent/Two-Face)
6. Phillip Seymore Hofman (Rumored as Penguin)
7. Ray Liota (Rumored as Moroni)
8. Bob Hoskins (Rumored as Penguin and Mob Boss Maroni)
9. Brad Dourif (Rumored as Doctor Jerimiah Arkham)
10. Liev Schreiber (Rumored as Harvey Dent/ Two-face)

These are the males that have been rumored to have parts that are not the Joker in the BATMAN BEGINS' sequel.


As for the dropped Joker canidate, I'm going to have to say it's Bettany.

FRONTRUNNERS
1. Lachy Hulme
2. Paul Bettany
----------------
3. Hugo Weaving
4. Jude Law
5. Micheal Keaton


Paul is probably looking to not be type casted...he's been the villain in I believe 3 or 4 films in a row now.

-R

I'm pretty sure it's Gyllenhal. It can't be any of the other contenders. Hugh Jackman and Jude Law have already done comic boom movies, and they don't scream Joker to me. Lucas can't act. Guy Pearce said he'd never do a comic book movie. Hoffman and Hoskins are not candidates for obvious reasons. Liotta's too old, and I don't think he's ever been rumored. He's just been the fan favorite for Maroni. Dourif's too old. And Schreiber IS Harvey Dent but he's not right for The Joker at all.

Sadly, I'm afraid it is probably Bettany that is out of the running. If it is indeed true, I'm making Gyllenhal my top choice.

Also, I don't think that Keaton and Weaving were real candidates. Just incredibly weak rumors. Law has never been mentioned as a candidate for anything but Dent.

[NOFX]

Wow, your e-penis is huge. :rolleyes:
Well I do wear a size 13 Gentlemen! :cool:

[Shawn Wayne]

I can totally see the 16 girls getting horny over this instead of being terrified!


That last one is so Brokeback, it's not funny

[Brian2887]

Ya know, if I had to guess, I'd say Bettany is the one tossed out of the running for Joker. Frankly, I'm glad. The guy is being stereotyped as a crazy villain, and I don't want Joker to be like any villain we've seen before. Something tells me if Bettany takes it, we'll see something pretty similar to his white-skinned killer in The Da Vinci Code.

And, it sounds like it could be either Jake Gyllenhaal or Jude Law stepping into Bettany's void. If you ask me, either could be a fantastic Joker. Personally, I'd give the edge to Jake, but both could be so badass in the role, delivering villains like audiences haven't seen. Both could bring Joker to life. Jude Law was a great, creepy villain in Road to Perdition, and Gyllenhaal sold me on his chops in the scene where he went nuts in Jarhead. Either could handle this role.

Gyllenhaal:
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mtv/mtv_movie_awards_backstage_2004_photos/jake_gyllenhaal/mtv2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/hollywood_film_festival/hollywood_film_festival_awards_2005_photos/jake_gyllenhaal/hffawardsjs.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/hollywood_film_festival/hollywood_film_awards_show_2004_photos/jake_gyllenhaal/hollywood04show2.jpg


Jude Law
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/road_to_perdition/jude_law/perdition3.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/sky_captain_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/jude_law/skyprec2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/76th_annual_academy_awards_arrivals_photos/jude_law/oscars3.jpg

That said, though, I still have my fingers crossed that Tim Roth's name will come up again.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/rothhoodlum2.gif

[Dark Knight88]

I think Eccleston deserves at least a screen-test, personally i think the new front runner could indeed be either Robin Williams or Jake Gyllenhall.
As for 1 of the front runners being out, i'd prefer it to be Hulme rather than Bettany.
At this point though who knows maybe WB have pushed hard enough to get a "name" for the running, i'm thinking Johnny Depp here.

[The Chairman]

Ya know, if I had to guess, I'd say Bettany is the one tossed out of the running for Joker. Frankly, I'm glad. The guy is being stereotyped as a crazy villain, and I don't want Joker to be like any villain we've seen before. Something tells me if Bettany takes it, we'll see something pretty similar to his white-skinned killer in The Da Vinci Code.

And, it sounds like it could be either Jake Gyllenhaal or Jude Law stepping into Bettany's void. If you ask me, either could be a fantastic Joker. Personally, I'd give the edge to Jake, but both could be so badass in the role, delivering villains like audiences haven't seen. Both could bring Joker to life. Jude Law was a great, creepy villain in Road to Perdition, and Gyllenhaal sold me on his chops in the scene where he went nuts in Jarhead. Either could handle this role.

Gyllenhaal:
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mtv/mtv_movie_awards_backstage_2004_photos/jake_gyllenhaal/mtv2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/hollywood_film_festival/hollywood_film_festival_awards_2005_photos/jake_gyllenhaal/hffawardsjs.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/hollywood_film_festival/hollywood_film_awards_show_2004_photos/jake_gyllenhaal/hollywood04show2.jpg


Jude Law
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/road_to_perdition/jude_law/perdition3.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/sky_captain_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/jude_law/skyprec2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/76th_annual_academy_awards_arrivals_photos/jude_law/oscars3.jpg

That said, though, I still have my fingers crossed that Tim Roth's name will come up again.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/rothhoodlum2.gif

I hope it's Gyllenhal filling Bettany's void, if it is indeed Bettany who is out.

[The-Night]

I hope it's Gyllenhal filling Bettany's void, if it is indeed Bettany who is out.

NO NO NO NO!!!!!! Bettany is out and the new name being tossed around is Christoper Eccleston remember....
This actor has been rumored for a part in this film previously, but not for The Clown Prince of Crime. More on all of this later, so stay tuned!

I know Gylennhaal was up for Batman, but I mean let's be honest who looks more like a Joker canidate???

http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/bradford__district/leisure/theatre/jpg/chris-eccleston.jpg
or
http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/Jake%20Gyllenhaal%20-%201%20-%20300%20-%20Jarhead.jpg

you do the math!!!!!

[The Chairman]

They both look the part, but I'd prefer Gyllenhaal.

[Super_Ludacris]

I wouldnt mind seeing Jake in this movie he's a good actor and it would be a good bold choice. As for whose dropped out I hope its not Bettany but Law is a good choice too

[The-Night]

They both look the part, but I'd prefer Gyllenhaal.

Yeah Gyllenhall just screams JOKER............................................. ....and Joel Schumacer and that's not becuase he was in brokeback, if anything Jake should be rumored for that part of Balck mask if anything!!!!1

[The Chairman]

I wouldnt mind seeing Jake in this movie he's a good actor and it would be a good bold choice. As for whose dropped out I hope its not Bettany but Law is a good choice too

I hope it isn't him, too.

[Super_Ludacris]

People need to get over this thing about Jake in brokeback.He's got a great lineup of work (Donnie Darko, October Sky,The Good Girl, Jarhead, Day After Tommorrow) and what he has proven is that he is not a "teen pin up" by any strech dude has shown versatilty. I could definetly see him as Joker off the strength of Donnie Darko you know.

[Dark Knight88]

Yeah Gyllenhall just screams JOKER............................................. ....and Joel Schumacer and that's not becuase he was in brokeback, if anything Jake should be rumored for that part of Balck mask if anything!!!!1

I don't doubt Gyllenhall's ability but personally i don't think he should get the role, i can't envision the Joker as a pretty boy.

Out of him and Eccleston i'd have to pick Chris Eccleston, just looking at him shouts Joker! Hopefully he is in for the running as should Adrien Brody, both can play creepy an psychotic very well.

[The-Night]

I hope it isn't him, too.

I was hopeing he would be close on Hulmes tail till the end, but everything seems to indicate that he's out. I would of perfered Bettany over Eccleston anyday!!!

[The Chairman]

People need to get over this thing about Jake in brokeback.He's got a great lineup of work (Donnie Darko, October Sky,The Good Girl, Jarhead, Day After Tommorrow) and what he has proven is that he is not a "teen pin up" by any strech dude has shown versatilty. I could definetly see him as Joker off the strength of Donnie Darko you know.

:up:

I also felt he was one of the few good things about The Day After Tomorrow.

[Katsuro]

NO NO NO NO!!!!!! Bettany is out and the new name being tossed around is Christoper Eccleston remember....


The rumor states that the new candidate is someone who was already rumored for a different BB2 role, not a BB1 role. That leaves Eccleston out, as he was never rumored for Harvey Dent, Penguin, Black Mask, or Maroni.

Most likely it's Gyllenhaal thats in, and it's not a bad choice. I could see him as Joker. I still favor Bettany though, and I'm gonna hold on to hope that he could still land the role. Yes, it seems less likely now, but there's still hope.

[The-Night]

Adrien Brody can play creepy an psychotic very well.

Adrian Brody has a better chance of being in the next rambo sequel then he has of being the Joker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CConn]

EDIT: Heh. Katsuro got to it first.

In any case, since I've never been a very large supporter of Bettany, it would be entirely amusing to me if he ended up on the short end of the stick. Especially with so many here have been acting as if he's already been cast.

[Dark Knight88]

The rumor states that the new candidate is someone who was already rumored for a different BB2 role, not a BB1 role. That leaves Eccleston out, as he was never rumored for Harvey Dent, Penguin, Black Mask, or Maroni.

Most likely it's Gyllenhaal thats in, and it's not a bad choice. I could see him as Joker. I still favor Bettany though, and I'm gonna hold on to hope that he could still land the role. Yes, it seems less likely now, but there's still hope.

Good point. Basically its either Jake Gyllenhall or Guy Pearce who's in. But i's still prefer Chris Eccleston over all.:)

[The-Night]

The article said someone who has been rumored for a character in this film. Eccleston hasn't been rumored for anything but the Joker in BB2.

oh yeah sorry my mistake, I admit I read that wrong. Well anyway does it really materr who the 2nd canidate is? I mean the role was Lachy's from day 1, I mean when the director himself is on your side what more do you want!

[mcflytrap]

If Bettany doesn't get the role I promise I will buy the DVD (in a couple years when it comes out) and splice in pictures of Bettany every time the Joker appears and then sell it on eBay as the RENEGADE CUT of BB2.

[The-Night]

If Bettany doesn't get the role I promise I will buy the DVD (in a couple years when it comes out) and splice in pictures of Bettany every time the Joker appears and then sell it on eBay as the RENEGADE CUT of BB2.

well good luck with that pal!!!!!:up:

[Dark Knight88]

oh yeah sorry my mistake, I admit I read that wrong. Well anyway does it really materr who the 2nd canidate is? I mean the role was Lachy's from day 1, I mean when the director himself is on your side what more do you want!

That's true i have'nt seen anything with Hulme in it, but if Nolan says he's for real then i'll take his word for it.

[The-Night]

That's true i have'nt seen anything with Hulme in it, but if Nolan says he's for real then i'll take his word for it.

that's what I've been trying to tell all the Hulem haters. Obvioulsy Hulme is everything Nolan want's in the Joker for this triology and just becuase he done a couple of movies does not mean he can't pull it off.

[Katsuro]

Man, StorminNorman's gonna cry when he sees this thread.

Of course, we shouldn't be too hasty in throwing Bettany out. Yes, it seems likely, but it's not certain. First of all, I just noticed that where it says "may not be in the mix any longer" on BOF, the word may is italicized. So it's not definite that a name has been thrown out. Second of all, they didn't say who it is that's not in the mix. It's possible that Hulme had his screentest, and it wasn't very good so they're no longer considering him. Yeah, it's mostly wishful thinking, but so what? Until it's flat out said that Bettany isn't in the running, he's still my favorite. And if/when that happens, then Gyllenhaal is my pick.

[The-Night]

Man, StorminNorman's gonna cry when he sees this thread.

Of course, we shouldn't be too hasty in throwing Bettany out. Yes, it seems likely, but it's not certain. First of all, I just noticed that where it says "may not be in the mix any longer" on BOF, the word may is italicized. So it's not definite that a name has been thrown out. Second of all, they didn't say who it is that's not in the mix. It's possible that Hulme had his screentest, and it wasn't very good so they're no longer considering him. Yeah, it's mostly wishful thinking, but so what? Until it's flat out said that Bettany isn't in the running, he's still my favorite. And if/when that happens, then Gyllenhaal is my pick.

I really doubt Hulme screen tested, bombed it, and then a couple of days later was named the front runner for the role. If anyone is out of the running, according to BOF, it's Bettany!!!!!!!

[Boom]

I really doubt Hulme screen tested, bombed it, and then a couple of days later was named the front runner for the role. If anyone is out of the running, according to BOF, it's Bettany!!!!!!!
Unless of course this report is just like every other BOF report: a rumor.

[The-Night]

Unless of course this report is just like every other BOF report: a rumor.

if any website is somewhat realiable when it comes to Batman it's BOF!!!! I know you Bettany supportes all of a sudden are going be anit-BOF, but I bet you if BOF said that Hulme was no longer in the mix all the Bettany fans would be all over it!!!

[Two-Face]

if any website is somewhat realiable when it comes to Batman it's BOF!!!! I know you Bettany supportes all of a sudden are going be anit-BOF, but I bet you if BOF said that Hulme was no longer in the mix all the Bettany fans would be all over it!!!


Like the poster it's only a rumor and it should treated as such if you read above BOF News. I believe it when like they done it with Bale as Batman it read the word "OFFICIAL"

[kytrigger]

Man, StorminNorman's gonna cry when he sees this thread.

Of course, we shouldn't be too hasty in throwing Bettany out. Yes, it seems likely, but it's not certain. First of all, I just noticed that where it says "may not be in the mix any longer" on BOF, the word may is italicized. So it's not definite that a name has been thrown out. Second of all, they didn't say who it is that's not in the mix. It's possible that Hulme had his screentest, and it wasn't very good so they're no longer considering him. Yeah, it's mostly wishful thinking, but so what? Until it's flat out said that Bettany isn't in the running, he's still my favorite. And if/when that happens, then Gyllenhaal is my pick.

Thank you. I was just about to post the exact same thing. There is just as much of a chance that it is Hulme that is out, but more importantly, it is still just rumor. Usually when Jett has a rumor, especially one as large as a major contender dropping out, he will usually go to another source and see if they have heard the same thing. I am pretty much putting no stock in this new rumor (or on who it could be) until another of Jett's sources can confirm this.

[kytrigger]

I really doubt Hulme screen tested, bombed it, and then a couple of days later was named the front runner for the role. If anyone is out of the running, according to BOF, it's Bettany!!!!!!!

Hulme has been "named" the frontrunner for the role for over a year now, it didn't just pop up after the supposed screentest. And you never know, that could have been 2 entirely different sources Jstt was talking to. One might not've even seen the screentest.

[The-Night]

Thank you. I was just about to post the exact same thing. There is just as much of a chance that it is Hulme that is out, but more importantly, it is still just rumor. Usually when Jett has a rumor, especially one as large as a major contender dropping out, he will usually go to another source and see if they have heard the same thing. I am pretty much putting no stock in this new rumor (or on who it could be) until another of Jett's sources can confirm this.

That is true, remember the Depp rumor on BOF and then a day later they siad Depp was a no go? I'm hoping Bettany is still in the mix even though I'm a Hulme supporter becuase if Hulme does not get it, then Bettany should not Gylennhaal!!!!!!

[Boom]

if any website is somewhat realiable when it comes to Batman it's BOF!!!! I know you Bettany supportes all of a sudden are going be anit-BOF, but I bet you if BOF said that Hulme was no longer in the mix all the Bettany fans would be all over it!!!
1)BOF isn't always spot on with its news.
2)I'm not anti-BOF, and I'm certaintly not a Bettany fanboy. I'm open to the casting of The Joker, so long as the guy they get has talent.

[The-Night]

Hulme has been "named" the frontrunner for the role for over a year now

actually Bettany was the front-runner till a couple of weeks ago!!

[The-Night]

I'm open to the casting of The Joker, so long as the guy they get has talent.

That's it!!!!!:up:

[kytrigger]

actually Bettany was the front-runner till a couple of weeks ago!!

Well, both have been considered the major contenders for the role, but it has been stated by Jett for a LONG time now that Nolan wants Hulme. (by Nolan wanting him, I put Hulme ahead of Bettany as the frontrunner)

[Mr. Socko]

I don't know who the candidate could possibly be. But there's going to be a new female lead and not a love interest? Interesting...

[The-Night]

Well, both have been considered the major contenders for the role, but it has been stated by Jett for a LONG time now that Nolan wants Hulme. (by Nolan wanting him, I put Hulme ahead of Bettany as the frontrunner)

My thoughts exactly, if Nolan want's Hulme then Nolan is going to get Hulme.

[kytrigger]

I don't know who the candidate could possibly be. But there's going to be a new female lead and not a love interest? Interesting...
I'm rather glad about that. My dream seqeul would have no love interest, at least not for Batman (possibly a small one for Harvey and Gilda though)

[Super_Ludacris]

Having no love intrest is a bold step but its one that's worth experimenting with.

[Mr. Socko]

I'm rather glad about that. My dream seqeul would have no love interest, at least not for Batman (possibly a small one for Harvey and Gilda though)

I agree, no love interest for Batman for once would be great. Yeah something with Gilda would be good.:up:

[kytrigger]

It'll be interesting if that's even possible. Wasn't a love interest one of the things that WB demanded be in BB?

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah, other then that they told Nolan he could do whatever else he wanted to with Begins. But hopefully they won't demand it this time. And if they do, they said just a love interest so it could be one for Harvey.

[Super_Ludacris]

Its something I think all studios would want in a blockbuster

[Mr. Socko]

Its something I think all studios would want in a blockbuster

There was none in many blockbusters of 2005.

Goblet of Fire
Chronicles of Narnia
War of The Worlds
Chocolate Factory

etc

All of which made more then Batman Begins in the BO.

[Boom]

There was none in many blockbusters of 2005.

Goblet of Fire
Chronicles of Narnia
War of The Worlds
Chocolate Factory

etc

All of which made more then Batman Begins in the BO.
Would you have wanted to see a love interest between Wonka and Charlie?

:eek:

[StorminNorman]

Man, StorminNorman's gonna cry when he sees this thread.

Of course, we shouldn't be too hasty in throwing Bettany out. Yes, it seems likely, but it's not certain. First of all, I just noticed that where it says "may not be in the mix any longer" on BOF, the word may is italicized. So it's not definite that a name has been thrown out. Second of all, they didn't say who it is that's not in the mix. It's possible that Hulme had his screentest, and it wasn't very good so they're no longer considering him. Yeah, it's mostly wishful thinking, but so what? Until it's flat out said that Bettany isn't in the running, he's still my favorite. And if/when that happens, then Gyllenhaal is my pick.

I must say, this has been the perfect ending for a horrible day....

[Super_Ludacris]

Just one of them days

[Mr. Socko]

Would you have wanted to see a love interest between Wonka and Charlie?

:eek:

LOL!

Anyone else thought Wonka also looked like Michael Jackson...

[StorminNorman]

There was none in many blockbusters of 2005.

Goblet of Fire
Chronicles of Narnia
War of The Worlds
Chocolate Factory

etc

All of which made more then Batman Begins in the BO.

Well to be fair those movies all were made from books, and so studious would of found it hard to add a love interest. However, IMO, a case could be made that GOF had enough romantic tension to qualify.

[Mr. Socko]

Well to be fair those movies all were made from books, and so studious would of found it hard to add a love interest. However, IMO, a case could be made that GOF had enough romantic tension to qualify.

And all the Batman movies were made from various comics. Many of which had no love interest for Batman like TLH.

Yeah, I agree about the GOF part.

[The-Night]

I must say, this has been the perfect ending for a horrible day....

don't worry man, it's probley just a rumor like when they said Nolan was keen of getting Depp, I would bet Bettany is still in it!!!!

[Dark Knight]

I'm thinking Bettany may be out also. Can it be possible that Law is a candidate for Joker now?

[Super_Ludacris]

Possibly or maybe the Johnny Depp rumour has returned

[Mr. Socko]

Jude Law for The Joker...yuck. I hope Bettany is still a contender.

[Mr. Socko]

Possibly or maybe the Johnny Depp rumour has returned

I was once hoping for Depp but doesn't look like it's very likely.

[StorminNorman]

And all the Batman movies were made from various comics. Many of which had no love interest for Batman like TLH.

Yeah, I agree about the GOF part.

but the Batman movies came from no one comic, and so the directors had room to create their owns sub plots.

Look at H2G2 - while based on the book, it included aspects from many of the books and brough in new plots completely. Thus they were able to add in Arthur and Trillian (and Zaphod and the VP) as couples

[The-Night]

Jude Law for The Joker...yuck. I hope Bettany is still a contender.

You know if Bettany is really out of the race, they can name ANY 2nd contender and it won't matter becaue it's HULME will get it 100% guarentee!

[Mr. Socko]

You know if Bettany is really out of the race, they can name ANY 2nd contender and it won't matter becaue it's HULME will get it 100% guarentee!

Hulme>>>>>>>>Jude Law

Depp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jude Law


Anyone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jude Law

[StorminNorman]

Gyllenhaal would be my hope for the new name in the race. While Bettany is still my favorite - and own the role IMO - Gyllenhaal could play the Joker very well, and I would have no problem with him getting it.

[Dark Knight]

Yeah, everyone loves those films. :confused:

Brokeback Mountain (which to be honest, I have not seen) got quite a few Oscar nominations. He also managed to make the otherwise rediculous Bubbleboy watchable.

Forget Law. Next thing you know you'll want Green Day to make a cameo as The Joker's henhcmen.


Road to Perdition was good......

Cold Mountain and Brokeback?? Blah...and booooooring.....

[Dark Knight]

i think Gyllenhaal would be a bad choice to play Joker......

[The-Night]

Hulme>>>>>>>>Jude Law

Depp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jude Law


Anyone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jude Law

No

Jude Law=General Zod

He was born for the Superman series. not Batman!!!

[kytrigger]

I really need to see Jarhead. Everyone says that it shows how Gyllenhaal would make a great Joker, because without having seen that, I really do not see him in the role at all.

[Mr. Socko]

but the Batman movies came from no one comic, and so the directors had room to create their owns sub plots.

Look at H2G2 - while based on the book, it included aspects from many of the books and brough in new plots completely. Thus they were able to add in Arthur and Trillian (and Zaphod and the VP) as couples

Very true:up:

[Mr. Socko]

I really need to see Jarhead. Everyone says that it shows how Gyllenhaal would make a great Joker, because without having seen that, I really do not see him in the role at all.

WTF? Was his role in Jarhead similiar to The Joker? Idk but I doubt it.

[kytrigger]

WTF? Was his role in Jarhead similiar to The Joker? Idk but I doubt it.
No, but I have heard that he flips out in the movie and it shows how manic and evil he can be.

[GoldGoblin]

I hope it's Liev Schreiber as Dent.He can play both a serious guy and a crazy wacked out guy.

[The-Night]

No, but I have heard that he flips out in the movie and it shows how manic and evil he can be.

If anything Gyllenhaal should be in the running for Black Mask, besides I relaly doubt Bettany is out of the race becuae to be honest with you if there's anybody that I want competing against Hulme for The JOker it's Bettany!!!!!

[GoldGoblin]

i think Gyllenhaal would be a bad choice to play Joker......

^So true.

[StorminNorman]

WTF? Was his role in Jarhead similiar to The Joker? Idk but I doubt it.

it showed Gyllenhaal plays a slightly psycotic person (a very psycotic person at times), which shows he can be more than just a gay cowboy. :o

[Keyser Sushi]

I love how people are ready to write off Bettany just because of rumor from BOF. Even if Jett's news is accurate - and Jett has a decent track record - he didn't name any names. And let's face it, Jett said a rumored "front runner" was now out, and he's usually referred to Hulme as the "front runner."

So there's no reason it couldn't be Hulme who's out, and not Bettany. Of course the whole story could be untrue, or it could be Bettany after all.

But I'm not ready to start assuming anything based on a piece of non-specific news. We'll get more details later. For right now, I'm gonna just wait and see.

[Dark Knight]

I'll tell you what I think . . . I think Bettany is definitely OUT, and I think that they're going to look at Christopher Ecclesten as another possible Joker candidate . . . this is interesting; I think Ecclesten is much better suited as the Joker than Bettany, and if it were Ecclesten and Hulme, It'd make it a hard choice

Ecclesten was up for the role of Scarecrow before Murphy nabbed it . . .


i would love to see Eccleston as the next possible Joker candidate! He ahs been one of favorites since on of his manips as joker was posted on this forums. It just seemed there was not heat behind him....it wouldn't surprise me if he is being considered now. It should be between him and Hulme. Eccleston and Hulme sicne day one....have everything you would want in a Joker. Height, build, and most importantly the facial features! Hulme and Eccleston have had the best manips made of them on this site as Joker. It seems Bettany is the one who is out now.

[Mr. Socko]

If anything Gyllenhaal should be in the running for Black Mask, besides I relaly doubt Bettany is out of the race becuae to be honest with you if there's anybody that I want competing against Hulme for The JOker it's Bettany!!!!!

I agree. The race is most interesting with Hulme vs Bettany where half is going for Bettany and half going for Hulme.

If it's Gyllenhaal vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

If it's Law vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

Whats the point in watching a race when you know who's going to win?

[The-Night]

i would love to see Eccleston as the next possible Joker candidate! He ahs been one of favorites since on of his manips as joker was posted on this forums. It just seemed there was not heat behind him....it wouldn't surprise me if he is being considered now. It should be between him and Hulme. Eccleston and Hulme sicne day one....have everything you would want in a Joker. Height, build, and most importantly the facial features! Hulme and Eccleston have had the best manips made of them on this site as Joker. It seems Bettany is the one who is out now.

I thought eccleston was the new conternder but it says that the person was named for another role in the sequel and ecclseston has only been mentioned for Joker!!!!!!

[The-Night]

I agree. The race is most interesting with Hulme vs Bettany where half is going for Bettany and half going for Hulme.

If it's Gyllenhaal vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

If it's Law vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

Whats the point in watching a race when you know who's going to win?

so true!!!!!!!!!:up: :up:

[wikum]

The new guy is Law. I'm 100% certain.

Jake G would stink the place out as The Joker.

And it looks like Bettany is out:down :down :down :down

The female is Essen but should be Kyle :down :down

[kytrigger]

I thought eccleston was the new conternder but it says that the person was named for another role in the sequel and ecclseston has only been mentioned for Joker!!!!!!

Has eccleston ever actually been mentioned for Joker though? I know he was in the running for Scarecrow, but I always thought he was just a fan favorite for Joker, but has never been mentioned for the part really.

[Katsuro]

I agree. The race is most interesting with Hulme vs Bettany where half is going for Bettany and half going for Hulme.

If it's Gyllenhaal vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

If it's Law vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

Whats the point in watching a race when you know who's going to win?

Not me. As of now, i'm Bettany > Gyllenhaal > Hulme > Law (just counting those 4). Gyllenhaal would do well in the role if Bettany doens't get it.

[The Fallen]

Bettany out? That's the vibe I got when I read that. Looks like Hulme is in with a real chance now, and good for him, it will be HUGE news here in aussie land if Hulme nabs the part. As for this new guy I think it's Jake.

[Mr. Socko]

The new guy is Law. I'm 100% certain.

Jake G would stink the place out as The Joker.

And it looks like Bettany is out:down :down :down :down

The female is Essen but should be Kyle :down :down

OH GAWD! Anyone but Jude Law!!!!

Please no sky captain in Batman!

[Mr. Socko]

I love how people are ready to write off Bettany just because of rumor from BOF. Even if Jett's news is accurate - and Jett has a decent track record - he didn't name any names. And let's face it, Jett said a rumored "front runner" was now out, and he's usually referred to Hulme as the "front runner."

So there's no reason it couldn't be Hulme who's out, and not Bettany. Of course the whole story could be untrue, or it could be Bettany after all.

But I'm not ready to start assuming anything based on a piece of non-specific news. We'll get more details later. For right now, I'm gonna just wait and see.

Best post in this entire thread. Couldn't agree more. This is only a rumor.

[The-Night]

The new guy is Law. I'm 100% certain.



There is no new guy, I'm 100% certain that Bettany is still in it!!!!!!! I mean think about it

Law as Joker NO WAY!!!!!!!

but...................

LAW AS ZOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keyser Sushi]

I agree. The race is most interesting with Hulme vs Bettany where half is going for Bettany and half going for Hulme.

If it's Gyllenhaal vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

If it's Law vs Hulme, everyone is going to go for Hulme.

Whats the point in watching a race when you know who's going to win?

LOL. Very true. Besides, polls here on the Hype! boards show that Bettany is favored over Hulme by 70% of Bat-fans (at least 70% of Bat-fans on the Hype). It would disappoint a LOT of people to lose Bettany at this point.

[The-Night]

Bettany out? That's the vibe I got when I read that. Looks like Hulme is in with a real chance now, and good for him, it will be HUGE news here in aussie land if Hulme nabs the part. As for this new guy I think it's Jake.

Is Hulme big in Australlia?????

[wikum]

There is no new guy, I'm 100% certain that Bettany is still in it!!!!!!! I mean think about it

Law as Joker NO WAY!!!!!!!

but...................

LAW AS ZOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why no way? I don't particularly want him as The Joker but he definitely reminds me of him. He's a well respected actor.

I'd love it to be Guy Pearce.

I really hope Bettany isn't out.

I would love Tim Roth to play The Joker but thats never gonna happen.

Michael Madsen for Dent or Maroni anyone?:)

[Mr. Socko]

Michael Madsen as Dent? No way, maybe Maroni.

[The-Night]

Michael Madsen as Dent? No way, maybe Maroni.

Michael Madsen name should only come up with the likes of Harvey Bullock and that's it!!!!!

[Mr. Socko]

Michael Madsen name should only come up with the likes of Harvey Bullock and that's it!!!!!

Even better! But is he tall enough? In Sin City he looked shorter then Bruce Willis.

[ToddIsDead]

No, James Gandolphini IS Bullock.

[wikum]

Michael Madsen as Dent? No way, maybe Maroni.

I just thought he's so big he would look cool as Two Face. He wouldn't be able to do the Dent part though, your right.

[The Chairman]

Michael Madsen name should only come up with the likes of Harvey Bullock and that's it!!!!!

Exactly. He's my top choice along with James Gandolfini and John Goodman.

[The Fallen]

Is Hulme big in Australlia?????

Nope. I'd never heard of the guy until he was in the running for the Joker. But it would still be big news "Unknown aussie actor nabs the role of the Joker.... follows in the footsteps of Jack Nicholson ect"

[The Chairman]

Even better! But is he tall enough? In Sin City he looked shorter then Bruce Willis.

According to IMDB, Willis is 6' and Madsen is 6'2, so Madsen is taller.

[Mr. Socko]

According to IMDB, Willis is 6' and Madsen is 6'2, so Madsen is taller.

Then definitely John Goodman or Mike Madsen for Det. Bullock!

[wikum]

lol i just watched donnie brasco and i want him in the film now.

[The-Night]

Nope. I'd never heard of the guy until he was in the running for the Joker. But I'd still be big news "Unknown aussie actor nabs the role of the Joker.... follows in the footsteps of Jack Nicholson ect"

he's not even big in his home country? Gee man where the hell did Hulme come from? I mean I'm Hulme all the way, but gee how did he ever manage to get himself associated with JOKER??

[DeFett]

I love how people are ready to write off Bettany just because of rumor from BOF. Even if Jett's news is accurate - and Jett has a decent track record - he didn't name any names. And let's face it, Jett said a rumored "front runner" was now out, and he's usually referred to Hulme as the "front runner."

Jett said "frontrunners" not "front runner" So frontrunners would imply both of them.

Joker update -- and I’m going to have to be a bit cryptic here, sorry. I got to protect our insiders, so this is the best I can do right now. Just read between the lines. Anyway, it seems that one of the so-called “frontrunners” for the part, may not be in the mix any longer. Perhaps the Bat-folks aren’t interested any longer, or maybe he simply doesn’t want the role…"

[The-Night]

Then definitely John Goodman or Mike Madsen for Det. Bullock!

what about Robert Costanzo, I mean not only does he look the part, but the best part of it is that he provided the voice for Bullock in the animated series.

http://www.thecelebrityclassic.org/images/celeb/CostanzoBobby.jpg
coulden't find any good pic of him thought this is the best I could find.

[kytrigger]

Jett said "frontrunners" not "front runner" So frontrunners would imply both of them.

He said one of the frontrunners though.

[The Fallen]

he's not even big in his home country? Gee man where the hell did Hulme come from? I mean I'm Hulme all the way, but gee how did he ever manage to get himself associated with JOKER??

Nolan, or someone probibally saw him in something (Matrix, Four Jacks most likely) and saw something in him they they liked.

[The-Night]

Jett said "frontrunners" not "front runner" So frontrunners would imply both of them.

it said ONE of them, read it carefully it happens to me all the time!!

[ToddIsDead]

I'd be perfectly fine with Costanzo.

[wikum]

But why on earth would someone like Hulme decide he's not interested in the part anymore?

[Mr. Socko]

what about Robert Costanzo, I mean not only does he look the part, but the best part of it is that he provided the voice for Bullock in the animated series.

http://www.thecelebrityclassic.org/images/celeb/CostanzoBobby.jpg
coulden't find any good pic of him thought this is the best I could find.

Thats a good one. Certainly looks the part and has got the perfect Bullock voice. I don't see why not :up:

[kytrigger]

But why on earth would someone like Hulme decide he's not interested in the part anymore?

It doesn't say one of them isn't interested in the part anymore. That was just specualtion by Jett and he said that maybe the Bat-folks aren't interested in him anymore.

IF it is Hulme that is out, then I would bet that he did have a screentest, and it didn't go well at all, not that he didn't want the part.

[The Fallen]

But why on earth would someone like Hulme decide he's not interested in the part anymore?

Good point. This role would be his big break into Hollywood, he'd be stupid to pass it up IMO.

[DeFett]

it said ONE of them, read it carefully it happens to me all the time!!

I now it's only one of them but it was I was replying to this.

And let's face it, Jett said a rumored "front runner" was now out, and he's usually referred to Hulme as the "front runner."

[Mr. Socko]

It doesn't say one of them isn't interested in the part anymore. That was just specualtion by Jett and he said that maybe the Bat-folks aren't interested in him anymore.

IF it is Hulme that is out, then I would bet that he did have a screentest, and it didn't go well at all, not that he didn't want the part.

I don't think Hulme is out until Jett says his name. And Jett definitely would have known about a screen test if it's happened yet so I don't think so. And Nolan is still working on the Prestiege right now.

Good point. This role would be his big break into Hollywood, he'd be stupid to pass it up IMO.

Very true.

[kytrigger]

I don't think Hulme is out until Jett says his name. And Jett definitely would have known about a screen test if it's happened yet so I don't think so. And Nolan is still working on the Prestiege right now.

Jett has reported on the rumor of a screentest for Hulme though. Also, Jett made a statement about how the sequel is much farther along than we realize. I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan has had at least a few screentests (even though he isn't there, he could watch the videos and maybe Jonah or someone else he trusts is there).

I agree that I am not declaring who I think it is until Jett confirms it, That is why I think he is asking his other sources to confirm whoever it might be and holding off on the name until it is confirmed.

[The Fallen]

All the article says this that one of the frontrunners MAY not be in the mix anymore. And Jett only guesses two of the most obivious senarios, He's not interested or the team are into interested. Too maybe maybes for anything concrete. Let's wait until Jett can give us some more info.

[Brian2887]

I'm really starting to think it's Law that's moved into contention for the Joker role. Let's examine the evidence:

1. When Law's name came up, Jett "assumed" it was in reference to the Harvey Dent role. If you read around the boards here, however, a lot of fans agreed Law was likely a candidate for Joker and Jett simply let a personal casting opinion overshadow the story that Jude Law was up for a role. Now, we're hearing an actor that was rumored for another role is up for Joker.

Chances are, Jude Law has always been in contention for the Joker. The fact that he was rumored for Dent only came from Jett's imagination.


I mean, look at the guy. Does he look more like Dent, or The Joker?
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/alfie/jude_law/alfie5.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/enemy_at_the_gates/jude_law/enemy2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/sky_captain_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/jude_law/skyprec2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/golden_globes/golden_globes_2004_photos/jude_law/globes9.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/golden_globes/golden_globes_2004_photos/jude_law/globes10.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/76th_annual_academy_awards_arrivals_photos/jude_law/oscars3.jpg

[Digital_Ashes]

Here's my Jake manip of the joker. It's not great, I threw it together in fifteen.

http://i3.tinypic.com/vr9gl0.jpg

Tell me what you think...here's an earlier manip styled for anyone...

http://i3.tinypic.com/vr9hlv.jpg

^ maybe Jude Law..

[NOFX]

Looks like the :joker: to me!

[The Chairman]

Here's my Jake manip of the joker. It's not great, I threw it together in fifteen.

http://i3.tinypic.com/vr9gl0.jpg

Tell me what you think...here's an earlier manip styled for anyone...

http://i3.tinypic.com/vr9hlv.jpg

^ maybe Jude Law..

I like them.

[Keyser Sushi]

Originally Posted by The-Night
it said ONE of them, read it carefully it happens to me all the time!!

I now it's only one of them but it was I was replying to this.


Quote:
And let's face it, Jett said a rumored "front runner" was now out, and he's usually referred to Hulme as the "front runner."
And if you read carefully, DeFett, my statement simply make it clear that it could just as easily be Hulme who's out, as Bettany. No assumptions are useful here.

[Digital_Ashes]

http://i3.tinypic.com/vrabno.jpg

Jude looking particularly evil.

[Mr. Socko]

http://i3.tinypic.com/vrabno.jpg

Jude looking particularly evil.

Nice manip but Mouth looks like Ronald McDonald

[DeFett]

Sorry, I haven't made myself very clear always happens pre-coffee Monday morning.

[The Fallen]

Sorry, I haven't made myself very clear always happens pre-coffee Monday morning.

Fett are you addicted to caffine or something? Every time on the boards you seem to mention coffee...

[DeFett]

Fett are you addicted to caffine or something? Every time on the boards you seem to mention coffee...

Sort of, need one most morning to get the brain motor started. I see it's still not working as I wrote Monday morning instead of Tuesday morning, Easter has thrown me off. ... who's Lachy Hulme? :)

[The Chairman]

Sort of, need one most morning to get the brain motor started. I see it's still not working as I wrote Monday morning instead of Tuesday morning, Easter has thrown me off. ... who's Lachy Hulme? :)

No one too important.

[DeFett]

I'm looking forward to some conformation on casting.

Does anyone know if it's been mentioned when they plan to start filming?

[ToddIsDead]

He's been in rumored to be in the running since before Begins even came out.

[kytrigger]

I'm looking forward to some conformation on casting.

Does anyone know if it's been mentioned when they plan to start filming?
I think they want to start filming this winter, but I might be wrong on that.

[ToddIsDead]

I believe they're going right into pre-production after Nolan and Bale and Caine finish the Prestige.

[The Fallen]

From BOF "Bale is to begin filming the next BATMAN film sometime in early '07"

[DeFett]

Thanks. Seems they probably wont finish up casting the roles for awhile then.

[explode7]

NO more british guys in this movie please.

[ToddIsDead]

NO more british guys in this movie please.
Why?

[DeFett]

I don't care if they are British or not just as long as they are right for the part.

[explode7]

BEcause there's already 3. Bale, Caine and Nolan. This is not British Batman movie this is American Batman movie.

[Boom]

BEcause there's already 3. Bale, Caine and Nolan. This is not British Batman movie this is American Batman movie.
With the exception of Katie Holmes and Morgan Freeman, the major stars of Batman Begins are not American. Yet they played their respective roles wonderfully.

You'll learn to live with it.

[explode7]

No I already learned to live it since before BB. The thing is I prefer an American joker instead.

[The Fallen]

BEcause there's already 3. Bale, Caine and Nolan. This is not British Batman movie this is American Batman movie.

Who cares if Nolan is a brit. Ang Lee is asian and he did Hulk! Bale owns ALL as does Caine so WHO CARES!

[Boom]

No I already learned to live it since before BB. The thing is I prefer an American joker instead.
If there's no recognizable accent, why does it matter?

[explode7]

I don't really care is just that I want someone American playing a major role for a change especially the joker.

[Boom]

I don't really care is just that I want someone American playing a major role for a change especially the joker.
For a change?

Who played The Joker in the first Batman movie? Jack Nicholson.
Where was he born? New Jersey, USA.

[warren_sparta27]

i've never noticed but Law would make a great Joker judging from the Pics in this thread, if it is Bettany that is out, i hope it is Law that becomes a new frontrunner.
Him or Depp, Depp is still my 1st choice.

[wikum]

I'm really starting to think it's Law that's moved into contention for the Joker role. Let's examine the evidence:

1. When Law's name came up, Jett "assumed" it was in reference to the Harvey Dent role. If you read around the boards here, however, a lot of fans agreed Law was likely a candidate for Joker and Jett simply let a personal casting opinion overshadow the story that Jude Law was up for a role. Now, we're hearing an actor that was rumored for another role is up for Joker.

Chances are, Jude Law has always been in contention for the Joker. The fact that he was rumored for Dent only came from Jett's imagination.


I mean, look at the guy. Does he look more like Dent, or The Joker?
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/alfie/jude_law/alfie5.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/enemy_at_the_gates/jude_law/enemy2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/sky_captain_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/jude_law/skyprec2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/golden_globes/golden_globes_2004_photos/jude_law/globes9.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/golden_globes/golden_globes_2004_photos/jude_law/globes10.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/76th_annual_academy_awards_arrivals_photos/jude_law/oscars3.jpg

Exactly what I thought when I first heard him linked with Dent. He does really remind me of The Joker.

[Maxwell Smart]

BEcause there's already 3. Bale, Caine and Nolan. This is not British Batman movie this is American Batman movie.

Dee dee dee!

[CConn]

BEcause there's already 3. Bale, Caine and Nolan. This is not British Batman movie this is American Batman movie.Though you fail to point out Bale and Nolan have spent extensive time in America in both childhood and their adult lives, and Nolan has duel British and American citizenship.

[Maxwell Smart]

Though you fail to point out Bale and Nolan have spent extensive time in America in both childhood and their adult lives, and Nolan has duel British and American citizenship.

Its not even worth it arguing with these kinds of people, CConn. Its a very typical American attitude of assumed superiority.

[Brian2887]

Its not even worth it arguing with these kinds of people, CConn. Its a very typical American attitude of assumed superiority.


Yeah.. I'm an American, but I can't help but recognize that British actors kick our actors' asses.

[Maxwell Smart]

Yeah.. I'm an American, but I can't help but recognize that British actors kick our actors' asses.

thats true..

But I don't see Jude Law as The Joker OR Dent. :o

[Mr. Vice]

thats true..

But I don't see Jude Law as The Joker OR Dent. :o

Hell... I just don't want Jude Law:o

[Mr. Socko]

Who cares if Nolan is a brit. Ang Lee is asian and he did Hulk! Bale owns ALL as does Caine so WHO CARES!

Never use the words "Nolan" and "Ang Lee" in the same post. Unless you are saying how superior Nolan is. Ang Lee's Hulk sucked on so many levels. Atleast Hulk looked good tho. BrokeBack Mountain sucked too. Really makes you think that Ang should go back to Hidden Dragon movies.

[CConn]

Its not even worth it arguing with these kinds of people, CConn. Its a very typical American attitude of assumed superiority.Thank God I'm from Canada.

[The Fallen]

Never use the words "Nolan" and "Ang Lee" in the same post. Unless you are saying how superior Nolan is. Ang Lee's Hulk sucked on so many levels. Atleast Hulk looked good tho. BrokeBack Mountain sucked too. Really makes you think that Ang should go back to Hidden Dragon movies.

I was just using Lee as an example of non-american people in american comic book character movies. Yes Hulk sucked massive which is a shame because it could have been one of the great comic franchises, up there with Spider-Man, X-Men and even Batman and Superman.

[The-Night]

BEcause there's already 3. Bale, Caine and Nolan. This is not British Batman movie this is American Batman movie.

The brits are doing extremely well and I'm glad they are in charge of this franchise, we had 4 chances and we blew it up the keyster!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Socko]

I was just using Lee as an example of non-american people in american comic book character movies. Yes Hulk sucked massive which is a shame because it could have been one of the great comic franchises, up there with Spider-Man, X-Men and even Batman and Superman.

Lol, I agree. And I was only joking:up::)

[The-Night]

I believe they're going right into pre-production after Nolan and Bale and Caine finish the Prestige.

Pre production is farther then what people think it is!!!!!! I mean this is WB's baby for 2008

[Ronny Shade]

I can't believe I missed 9 whole pages of thread. :down:

[Dark Knight]

I thought eccleston was the new conternder but it says that the person was named for another role in the sequel and ecclseston has only been mentioned for Joker!!!!!!


yeah. Well if thats the case then it would seem that it would have to be either Law or Gyllenhaal correct?

[Ronny Shade]

Does anyone here know how to spell Eccleston's name?


I didn't until I just looked it up

[ultimatefan]

Well, Law and Gyllenhall would be the most obvious choices. Law has been talked about for either Dent or Joker for a while now... As for the frontrunner who may be no longer in the mix for Joker, it might be Bettany, cuz the talk in recent days is Hulme is a favorite.

[The-Night]

Well, Law and Gyllenhall would be the most obvious choices. Law has been talked about for either Dent or Joker for a while now... As for the frontrunner who may be no longer in the mix for Joker, it might be Bettany, cuz the talk in recent days is Hulme is a favorite.

I realy doubt Bettany is out man, I'm telling you this is still a Bettany/Hulme race!!!!!!!!

[Super_Ludacris]

Maybe WB did the right thing and let go of Hulme as a candidate

[Stringer]

Wouldnt Jude Law be considered a "big name"? I thought they were against that.

[The-Night]

Maybe WB did the right thing and let go of Hulme as a candidate

that's funny lol, thanks for that!!!! I was having a bad say.:up: :up: :up:

[Digital_Ashes]

I was just using Lee as an example of non-american people in american comic book character movies. Yes Hulk sucked massive which is a shame because it could have been one of the great comic franchises, up there with Spider-Man, X-Men and even Batman and Superman.


more like:

Up there with Batman and X-men, and even Superman and Spiderman.

:marv:

[Ronny Shade]

I was just using Lee as an example of non-american people in american comic book character movies. Yes Hulk sucked massive which is a shame because it could have been one of the great comic franchises, up there with Spider-Man, X-Men and even Batman and Superman.


That's just not even true. Out of the comic movies since 2000 I put it in a close 6th behind Begins, the 2 Spideys and the 2 X-Mens. It was way better than Daredevil ever even tried to be. (I'm not even going to mention Elektra or the travesty that was F4...somehow they got a franchise out of that) and if you ask me Hulk was way better than the old Superman movies.

[ToddIsDead]

What about Catwoman? That should be on the top of your list.

[Ronny Shade]

What about Catwoman? That should be on the top of your list.
God I forgot that even happened.

Well, I never saw it, so I can't judge :p

[ultimatefan]

That's just not even true. Out of the comic movies since 2000 I put it in a close 6th behind Begins, the 2 Spideys and the 2 X-Mens. It was way better than Daredevil ever even tried to be. (I'm not even going to mention Elektra or the travesty that was F4...somehow they got a franchise out of that) and if you ask me Hulk was way better than the old Superman movies.
Having seen the director´s cut of Daredevil, I strongly disagree. The rest of what you put below it - well, considering only superhero movies - is so bad it doesn´t need to be great to outperform it... Your last line, if you ask me, is blasphemy...

Wat Hulk lacked the most to me is care factor. I know Banner is a man with issues, but Lee´s version is so alienated he´s a borderline sociopath... Look how Bill Bixby played the character in the TV show´s pilot, you see the character´s angst and bad temper, but he´s also human and sympathetic. That´s where I think is one of BB´s greatest triumphs: to make a Bruce Wayne the audience emotionally connected to and sympathized with without losing his dark edge.

[Silver Souper]

Good point. Basically its either Jake Gyllenhall or Guy Pearce who's in. But i's still prefer Chris Eccleston over all.:)

what?!? hulme is not out and he's said to be a frontrunner!

[Mr. Socko]

That's just not even true. Out of the comic movies since 2000 I put it in a close 6th behind Begins, the 2 Spideys and the 2 X-Mens. It was way better than Daredevil ever even tried to be. (I'm not even going to mention Elektra or the travesty that was F4...somehow they got a franchise out of that) and if you ask me Hulk was way better than the old Superman movies.

Have you ever seen Daredevil Director's cut, it's a much better movie and ranks higher then the first Xmen IMO.

As for that last line, I'll pretend you didn't write that.

Option A: You must be one of those guys who can't enjoy an old classic without a buttload of CGI(cartoony goofy images) in it.

Option B: You've never even watched Superman I or II before in your life

Option C: Someone has hacked your account

So which is it?

[Ronny Shade]

Having seen the director´s cut of Daredevil, I strongly disagree. The rest of what you put below it - well, considering only superhero movies - is so bad it doesn´t need to be great to outperform it... Your last line, if you ask me, is blasphemy...

Wat Hulk lacked the most to me is care factor. I know Banner is a man with issues, but Lee´s version is so alienated he´s a borderline sociopath... Look how Bill Bixby played the character in the TV show´s pilot, you see the character´s angst and bad temper, but he´s also human and sympathetic. That´s where I think is one of BB´s greatest triumphs: to make a Bruce Wayne the audience emotionally connected to and sympathized with without losing his dark edge.
I found Bana/Lee's Banner very relatable. I never watched Incredible Hulk the show religously, When I see it I enjoy it but I never found "David" Banner all that interesting. I did like that he was kind of a drifter, though. And you can tell from the ending that if there had been a sequel to Lee's Hulk they would have incorporated that element.

Also notice I also said "close" 6th place. Depending on my mood I would often prefer to watch Hulk over X-Men or Spidey at times.

PS. The DD director's cut is way overhyped and not even that good. It is better than the TC, but adds very little to the story/character development.

[Silver Souper]

Maybe WB did the right thing and let go of Hulme as a candidate

Eff off :)

[Ronny Shade]

Have you ever seen Daredevil Director's cut, it's a much better movie and ranks higher then the first Xmen IMO.

See prev. post.

Option A: You must be one of those guys who can't enjoy an old classic without a buttload of CGI(cartoony goofy images) in it.
Not true. I found Hackman's portrayal of Luthor painfully campy, Reeve, while good, was also corny. Lois was pretty terrible in those movies. I did, however, really enjoy the evil plot in the first one.

Option B: You've never even watched Superman I or II before in your life
I have only seen like the first half of II. A flaw, I know, I'll watch it again soon.

[Mr. Socko]

I can definitely accept your opinion and atleast you can backup what you say unlike Super Ludacris :up:

And what about option C :p

[Ronny Shade]

And what about option C :p
It's my Big Bad Harv side, I guess.

Funny thing about DD: I'm kind of on the fence about how I feel about that movie. Usually when people bash it I defend it and when people praise it I hate on it.:confused:

[Mr. Socko]

Thats how I am with the Star Wars prequels

[Ronny Shade]

Thats how I am with the Star Wars prequels
LOL me too.:up:

[Dark Knight]

There was none in many blockbusters of 2005.

Goblet of Fire
Chronicles of Narnia
War of The Worlds
Chocolate Factory

etc

All of which made more then Batman Begins in the BO.


none of those films were better than Begins though...and Goblet of Fire was pretty good though....

[Two-Face]

You forgot Sin City Socko.

[The Fallen]

That's just not even true. Out of the comic movies since 2000 I put it in a close 6th behind Begins, the 2 Spideys and the 2 X-Mens. It was way better than Daredevil ever even tried to be. (I'm not even going to mention Elektra or the travesty that was F4...somehow they got a franchise out of that) and if you ask me Hulk was way better than the old Superman movies.

Different strokes for different folks. I just feel that they droped the ball with Hulk as it is one for Marvels big characters and the movie wasn't as big as it could have been.

Anywho here are my fave comic book movie in order. This is my opinion,

Batman Begins
Superman: The Movie
Batman '89
Superman II
X-Men 2
Spider-Man
Batman Forever
X-Men
Sin City
V For Ventetta
The Punisher
Spider-Man 2
Batman Returns
Constantine
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
Hulk
Batman & Robin
Superman III

I haven't seen Daredevil, F4, Electra so I can't judge.

[Two-Face]

EDIT I see it.

[Ronny Shade]

Different strokes for different folks. I just feel that they droped the ball with Hulk as it is one for Marvels big characters and the movie wasn't as big as it could have been.

Anywho here are my fave comic book movie in order. This is my opinion,

Batman Begins
Superman: The Movie
Batman '89
Superman II
X-Men 2
Spider-Man
Batman Forever
X-Men
Sin City
V For Ventetta
The Punisher
Spider-Man 2
Batman Returns
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
Hulk
Batman & Robin
Superman III

I haven't seen Daredevil, F4, Electra so I can't judge.

I can't believe you think Hulk is so bad!

I forgot about Sin City and V for Vendetta. They aren't exactly superhero films. I've only seen each once and I don't know how I'd feel upon watch them again. I really did like them, but they got over-loved, which created in me a feeling of animostity towards them.

[ultimatefan]

I found Bana/Lee's Banner very relatable. I never watched Incredible Hulk the show religously, When I see it I enjoy it but I never found "David" Banner all that interesting. I did like that he was kind of a drifter, though. And you can tell from the ending that if there had been a sequel to Lee's Hulk they would have incorporated that element.

Also notice I also said "close" 6th place. Depending on my mood I would often prefer to watch Hulk over X-Men or Spidey at times.

PS. The DD director's cut is way overhyped and not even that good. It is better than the TC, but adds very little to the story/character development.
On the pilot, I think Bixby´s Banner is very relatable, he´s more sympathetic than Bana´s Banner and seems much more genuinely concerned with Hulk´s potential damage, even though it´s a phyisically weaker version of the monster. Bana´s Banner seems to me much more attracted to being a monster than scared of it.

Well, to me the director´s cut adds a lot to the story, it emphasizes that Matt is someone who fights for the little guy, for the unprotected of Hell´s Kitchen, and we see his "blind detective" skills a lot more. Not to mention the murder subplot covers the biggest holes the plot had in the TC, especially Kingpin´s arrest.

[KALEL114]

I hope they aren't talking about Seymor Hoffman. Penguin yes, Joker no.

[thedarks0ldier]

Different strokes for different folks. I just feel that they droped the ball with Hulk as it is one for Marvels big characters and the movie wasn't as big as it could have been.

Anywho here are my fave comic book movie in order. This is my opinion,

Batman Begins
Superman: The Movie
Batman '89
Superman II
X-Men 2
Spider-Man
Batman Forever
X-Men
Sin City
V For Ventetta
The Punisher
Spider-Man 2
Batman Returns
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
Hulk
Batman & Robin
Superman III

I haven't seen Daredevil, F4, Electra so I can't judge.

You have yet to see Constantine

[ToddIsDead]

Constantine was really good. I'd put it in my top ten favorite comic book movies. It probably would have been cooler if it stuck to the comics some more though.

[DV8]

so . . . . . do you guys think that if this is all true, that it's possibly Brad Dourif who's the new Joker contender? After all, he's very menacing, not a huge name; and a very experienced character actor . . . I don't think that's too bad a choice . . .

[The-Night]

so . . . . . do you guys think that if this is all true, that it's possibly Brad Dourif who's the new Joker contender? After all, he's very menacing, not a huge name; and a very experienced character actor . . . I don't think that's too bad a choice . . .

I think he's too old for the younger Joker that Nolan is looking for. I mean Batman and Joker pretty much started being who they are wround the same time, didn't they?

[DV8]

yeah . . . . that's the ONE major drawback . . . he's like 50 or something . . .

[The-Night]

yeah . . . . that's the ONE major drawback . . . he's like 50 or something . . .

well hopefully Bettany is not out of the race.....yet. I mean jjst the thught all the new threads saying "Gyllenhaal looks more liek the joker than HULME, he should get it" will make me vomit all over my nice ivy leauge suit!!1

[DV8]

oh god!!! I know . . . Gyllenhall CANNOT be Joker!!!!

[The-Night]

oh god!!! I know . . . Gyllenhall CANNOT be Joker!!!!

He won't...........but I must admit he would make an awesome Black Mask!!

[Super_Ludacris]

Gylenhall deserves to be in the Batman franchise in some sort of shape or form

[The Fallen]

You have yet to see Constantine Yeah I have actually, forgot about that one. It was good, not great.

[Keyser Sushi]

Different strokes for different folks. I just feel that they droped the ball with Hulk as it is one for Marvels big characters and the movie wasn't as big as it could have been.

Anywho here are my fave comic book movie in order. This is my opinion,

Batman Begins
Superman: The Movie
Batman '89
Superman II
X-Men 2
Spider-Man
Batman Forever
X-Men
Sin City
V For Ventetta
The Punisher
Spider-Man 2
Batman Returns
Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
Hulk
Batman & Robin
Superman III

I haven't seen Daredevil, F4, Electra so I can't judge.

Wow, that's weird. See, my favorite comic movies look much different.

1.Batman Begins
2.Spider-Man
3.Spider-Man 2
4.Hulk
5.Hellboy
6.Sin City
7.Punisher (Tom Jane version)
8.X2: X-Men United
9.X-Men
10.Superman: The Movie

That's my top ten. If I list any others I'd be listing ones that don't mean anything to me, really, except, in some instances, for nostalgia's sake.

On the issue of finding Banner relatable - the idea is that Banner is a man who grew up with an abusive father and that's where his deep-set, repressed anger comes from. This is an angle that Peter David wrote for the character back in the early 90's, and, frankly, I think it's the most dramatic tact to take with the character.

If you don't find that relatable, you just haven't lived enough yet.

[The Fallen]

Wow, that's weird. See, my favorite comic movies look much different.

1.Batman Begins
2.Spider-Man
3.Spider-Man 2
4.Hulk
5.Hellboy
6.Sin City
7.Punisher (Tom Jane version)
8.X2: X-Men United
9.X-Men
10.Superman: The Movie

That's my top ten. If I list any others I'd be listing ones that don't mean anything to me, really, except, in some instances, for nostalgia's sake.

On the issue of finding Banner relatable - the idea is that Banner is a man who grew up with an abusive father and that's where his deep-set, repressed anger comes from. This is an angle that Peter David wrote for the character back in the early 90's, and, frankly, I think it's the most dramatic tact to take with the character.

If you don't find that relatable, you just haven't lived enough yet.

It's not that I don't find it relatable, it's just that I'd not a big Hulk person and have never gotten into the character. I'm not saying Hulk is a bad movie, it just that I expected it to be more 'Spider-Man like' in is aproch, and got a more psychological and emotionally driven movie. It just goes to show that I don't know jack about Hulk! I best stick to my DC stuff....

[Ronny Shade]

YES! Keyser likes Hulk! I feel validated.

He does, however, like The Punisher better than X-2 :confused:. Weirdo.

As for the TV show, I should like to watch more of it, I've never really gotten a chance and I haven't seen the pilot. As for the movie, the fact that he likes the power is part of--to me--what makes Lee/Bana's Banner interesting. I mean he's this guy who's scared of his normal life, but then he gets this power and...who wouldn't enjoy that a little bit, even in a guilty kind of way? My favorite scene is after he defeats the dogs and then almost kills Betty. That was so terrifically acted.

As for what The Fallen said, I think that's why it did poorly. People wanted to see an action movie and they wanted the TV show. They thought to themselves "The Director of Crouching Tiger?? must be completely action based" and they totally forgot that Crouching Tiger was a very character driven film.


and godDAMMit. I gotta think more clearly when I say Hulk was my #6 comic movie. Cuz I keep forgetting about all these other movies. (I really liked Constantine and Hellboy, but I don't know if better than Hulk) And I might even like Hulk better than one of the Spideys. I'll work it out and get back to y'all.

[Keyser Sushi]

YES! Keyser likes Hulk! I feel validated.

It's one of the best comics movies out there, IMO.

He does, however, like The Punisher better than X-2 :confused:. Weirdo.

Well, I LOVE X2... but between a movie about misunderstood people, and a movie about an angry man who shoots people... the guy shooting people wins out every time. Punisher is one of those movies that people misunderstand... it's about a dirty rotten bastard who kills people who do bad things. I love that kind of anti-hero. It's an oldschool, low-tech 80's style action movie, and, dammit, it SHOULD be. :up:

The difference between Punisher and Kill Bill is that Tarantino pussed out and got all preachy and moralizing at the end of Kill Bill, which totally ruined the movie. I can draw my own conclusions based on the gratuitous violence. Just let her chop Bill's #@&*in' head off and be done with it. Make sure the blood fills the whole room.

As for the TV show, I should like to watch more of it, I've never really gotten a chance and I haven't seen the pilot. As for the movie, the fact that he likes the power is part of--to me--what makes Lee/Bana's Banner interesting. I mean he's this guy who's scared of his normal life, but then he gets this power and...who wouldn't enjoy that a little bit, even in a guilty kind of way? My favorite scene is after he defeats the dogs and then almost kills Betty. That was so terrifically acted.

I agree. It was a great movie. I used to love that old TV show, too, but luckily I got acquainted with the comics between then and the movie, so I knew what to expect. It's part Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde, part King Kong. And dammit, that's awesome. :up:

As for what The Fallen said, I think that's why it did poorly. People wanted to see an action movie and they wanted the TV show. They thought to themselves "The Director of Crouching Tiger?? must be completely action based" and they totally forgot that Crouching Tiger was a very character driven film.

See, that's what I've said all along. Marvel screwed up by promoting the movie as a big Spider-Man superhero flick, and it's not, because Hulk's not a superhero. Hulk's a monster with heart. That's IT. It IS a psychological study because it's about the nature of anger, and violence, and power. It's about what happens when a pure emotion gets a physical manifestation. The Hulk is not driven by anger: the Hulk IS anger. He's a brutal, primal emotion that can do terrible things, but can also drive a person to do heroic things at need. Lee got that, and he made a beautiful movie.

Plus, Nick Nolte OWNS YOUR ASS.

and godDAMMit. I gotta think more clearly when I say Hulk was my #6 comic movie. Cuz I keep forgetting about all these other movies. (I really liked Constantine and Hellboy, but I don't know if better than Hulk) And I might even like Hulk better than one of the Spideys. I'll work it out and get back to y'all.

Word.

[Ronny Shade]

Well, I LOVE X2... but between a movie about misunderstood people, and a movie about an angry man who shoots people... the guy shooting people wins out every time. Punisher is one of those movies that people misunderstand... it's about a dirty rotten bastard who kills people who do bad things. I love that kind of anti-hero. It's an oldschool, low-tech 80's style action movie, and, dammit, it SHOULD be. :up:
But...but...he didn't kill enough people! He let them kill each other. While parts of this movie were spectacular (the firehydrant in the gym bag, torturing the guy with a popsicle, the gravestone on the golfcourse, the knife through the guy's teeth) I really wanted Castle to be brutally killing more people and trying to justify it. You can go so far with the idea that Frank is really kind of a bad bad man, and he's trying to be bad in a constructive way.


I agree. It was a great movie. I used to love that old TV show, too, but luckily I got acquainted with the comics between then and the movie, so I knew what to expect. It's part Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde, part King Kong. And dammit, that's awesome. :up:

See, that's what I've said all along. Marvel screwed up by promoting the movie as a big Spider-Man superhero flick, and it's not, because Hulk's not a superhero. Hulk's a monster with heart. That's IT. It IS a psychological study because it's about the nature of anger, and violence, and power. It's about what happens when a pure emotion gets a physical manifestation. The Hulk is not driven by anger: the Hulk IS anger. He's a brutal, primal emotion that can do terrible things, but can also drive a person to do heroic things at need. Lee got that, and he made a beautiful movie.
Total agreenatude:up:

[The Fallen]

On the topic sorta, I've felt for the longest time that I'm the only one who thought the first Spider-Man was better than the second, everyone else I know seems to think that the second is better! Why? I'm glad to see I'm not alone Sushi!

[Keyser Sushi]

On the topic sorta, I've felt for the longest time that I'm the only one who thought the first Spider-Man was better than the second, everyone else I know seems to think that the second is better! Why? I'm glad to see I'm not alone Sushi!

Yeah, I mean, I like the second one, but, it's really a sequel to the first one in every respect, and while it builds on the story, I think it's almost meaningless without the first one, so they have to go in order on the list. Whereas with the X-Men movies, X2 is so far above and beyond its predecessor that I HAD to flip the order. ;)


But...but...he didn't kill enough people! He let them kill each other. While parts of this movie were spectacular (the firehydrant in the gym bag, torturing the guy with a popsicle, the gravestone on the golfcourse, the knife through the guy's teeth) I really wanted Castle to be brutally killing more people and trying to justify it. You can go so far with the idea that Frank is really kind of a bad bad man, and he's trying to be bad in a constructive way.


True, true. The thing is, it really was an origin story, and the way I read it, he didn't really become THE PUNISHER until the end of the movie... I like that they took him to the point of contemplating suicide after he'd squared his beef, but instead he chose to go on and be the guy who carves up criminals wherever he finds them. That to me is the breakthrough for him. He had to get the personal stuff out of the way and now he's just... on a mission. :up:

When they make the sequel, I expect it to be more what you'd expect. The thing is, I don't think Frank has to try to justify what he does. I think the story justifies it as far as is possible, for the character. We know why he does what he does, and it's hard to blame him, even if he's a dirty rotten bastard. It's like a Clint Eastwood character, in that regard.

But having him trying to justify it, as you put it, is one way to handle the necessary thing in the sequel: the audience has to continue to be on Frank's side, no matter what he does. That requires that he retain some measure of humanity, and, therefore, conscience.

[The Fallen]

Yeah, I mean, I like the second one, but, it's really a sequel to the first one in every respect, and while it builds on the story, I think it's almost meaningless without the first one, so they have to go in order on the list. Whereas with the X-Men movies, X2 is so far above and beyond its predecessor that I HAD to flip the order. ;)



True, true. The thing is, it really was an origin story, and the way I read it, he didn't really become THE PUNISHER until the end of the movie... I like that they took him to the point of contemplating suicide after he'd squared his beef, but instead he chose to go on and be the guy who carves up criminals wherever he finds them. That to me is the breakthrough for him. He had to get the personal stuff out of the way and now he's just... on a mission. :up:

When they make the sequel, I expect it to be more what you'd expect. The thing is, I don't think Frank has to try to justify what he does. I think the story justifies it as far as is possible, for the character. We know why he does what he does, and it's hard to blame him, even if he's a dirty rotten bastard. It's like a Clint Eastwood character, in that regard.

But having him trying to justify it, as you put it, is one way to handle the necessary thing in the sequel: the audience has to continue to be on Frank's side, no matter what he does. That requires that he retain some measure of humanity, and, therefore, conscience.

I 100% agree with you on The Punisher. He's a down and dirty ass-kicker. I also love the 80's retro action movie feel on the film too. I loves me some 80's action!

[Ronny Shade]

I haven't seen that 80s one. Heard terrible things but I still wanna see it.

And Keyser, I think if they made a Punisher sequel it would pwn. Especially if he moves to NY. And I think that you need some sort of internal conflict to have a good flick. Thats why I said all the justification stuff, but you understood that.