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jimjam-06
04-17-2006, 12:49 PM
I don't think this has been done before :) if it has, sorry :( :)

I was just wondering what way everyone thinks the movie should end (like last scene)

I think it should be something like at the end of the Phoenix saga... when the watcher says something like "Jean grey could have become a god but it was important she die a human"

Maybe Storm or Prof X (if he survives) could say this as they look down on her tomb stone and it has engraved "she will rise again..."

Although I'm still torn between Jean living or not

If she lived I'd like it to end with the X-Men declaring peace on national TV or something (to end the trilogy optimistically, with humans accepting mutants) [though I doubt that would happen]

What are your thoughts? :confused:

The Original Bamfer
04-17-2006, 12:50 PM
With Cyclops

vanillacyke
04-17-2006, 12:51 PM
with Cyclops

Electrix
04-17-2006, 12:51 PM
Simon Kinberg said that the final scene will make you feel that there is hope for the X-Men. I think it will probably be back at the mansion, with all the X-Men there. Storm would be running the place and Beast will be there to help.

CapBeerCino
04-17-2006, 12:51 PM
with Cyclops

Godchilla
04-17-2006, 12:53 PM
i don't think she will survive. cyclops neither

at one point the x-men comics turned very dark, i hope the movie will follow the same way. that means a whole lot of dying for the cast! x-men 3 will be the last movie right?

Electrix
04-17-2006, 12:54 PM
x-men 3 will be the last movie right?

For a while...

Johnny Israel
04-17-2006, 12:55 PM
I have a couple of things I'd personally like to see.

Firstly I want Cyclops to die at the beginning of the movie....but not really. Like at the end revist the lake area with his body prone and you just see like a shadowy figure hovering over him. And some lines in a british accent about the bloodline or something or other.

Also some other scene of a similar nature but with Angel (obviously he would "die" more towards the end)

I seriously don't wanna see people dieing and coming back constatnly in these movies but Id like some foreshadowing that people who are familiar with the comics or even cartoon would understand and that the general audience would think "i doubt ill see them again"

In either case I'd like foreshadowing of Sinister. I'm dead tired right now and not really thinking to hard, but hopefully I come up with some better "ending scenes"

ILuvCyclops
04-17-2006, 12:57 PM
With Cyclops and The Fonz :D

I would like to see a kinnda "Empire Strikes Back" ending, with the no hope with mutants and humans co-exsisting

Scorupco
04-17-2006, 01:00 PM
With Jean's death.
But I want it to be big, the highlight of the movie. I want a really sad ending.
She dies... lots of pain, anger and tears... and then silence... the end.
Beautiful.

cyke93
04-17-2006, 01:02 PM
cyclops and jean riding off in the sunset... then being attacked and captured by sinister and setting up for x4 !!!!!!!

The Original Bamfer
04-17-2006, 01:02 PM
death? again?

CapBeerCino
04-17-2006, 01:10 PM
death? again?

TOB, your avvy is great! :up: :)

The Original Bamfer
04-17-2006, 01:11 PM
TOB, your avvy is great! :up: :)

Thanks! Lex made it :up:

GothicPowerMix1
04-17-2006, 01:12 PM
Scott & Jean live & Scott & Jean goes on a Vacation. The last Scene of the Movie Scott & Jean on his bike riding into the Sun Set & then all of a sudden his Bike stop's & then Scott say's "****ing Logan"

The End

:up::):up:

Bastila
04-17-2006, 01:13 PM
With Cyclops

and Jean of course.

GothicPowerMix1
04-17-2006, 01:14 PM
and Jean of course.

Check my ending hehe :up:

Octoberist
04-17-2006, 01:14 PM
The ending should be.........

With Gambit randomly throwing a playing card at the camera, and then cut to teh credits!

_BB_
04-17-2006, 01:14 PM
well in the trailer when leech is running to storm you can see all the kids in the background with luggage and it looks like they are all coming back to the school. Kinberg said it ends looking like there is hope for the xmen so I reckon we will see everyone getting back into the old routine after the war. There will probably be some kind of ban on the cure publicly announced (maybe by one Dr Essex ;) ), just all around peace really until X4 that is.....

Lightning Strykez!
04-17-2006, 01:15 PM
*scratches head*

Uhhh....

I'm not sure why some are thinking this ensemble film should end with Cyclops (what is that? :confused: ), but considering this is allegedly the final X-Men film I'd like to see a montage of scenes of all the survivors going about their daily routines with some sort of voiceover--perhaps the mainstay "Evolution" motto that sandwiches the first two films.

A glimpse of the entire X-Men family united together would also be appropriate.

Hotaru
04-17-2006, 01:15 PM
I want the last scene to leave me extatic and wanting more. ;P

JokerNick
04-17-2006, 01:15 PM
mutants are shipped to a desert in the middle east, text comes up at the end "and the mutants wondered the desert for 40 years before returning home"

PhoenixFire
04-17-2006, 01:15 PM
On a big pile of money, with lots of beautiful ladies.

lordofthenerds
04-17-2006, 01:18 PM
I've got a hunch that the funeral be near the end, but I think the end itself will be the school opening up again.

cyke93
04-17-2006, 01:18 PM
*scratches head*

Uhhh....

I'm not sure why some are thinking this ensemble film should end with Cyclops (what is that? :confused: )

sure ensemble, hehehe. i think since cyclops has been the most overlooked character since x1, it would be nice to show him some due. this is ofcourse wishful thinking since he's getting whacked 15 minutes into the film. :eek: hehehe

CapBeerCino
04-17-2006, 01:20 PM
I'd like to see a montage of scenes of all the survivors going about their daily routines with some sort of voiceover--perhaps the mainstay "Evolution" motto that sandwiches the first two films.

A glimpse of the entire X-Men family united together would also be appropriate.

Yeah, either that or with Cyclops ;)


(what is that? :confused: )

It's hoping Cyke stays alive at the end.

*scratches head*


What happened to the goatee? :p

GothicPowerMix1
04-17-2006, 01:22 PM
A glimpse of the entire X-Men family united together would also be appropriate.

Or the Entire cast with (Logan) in the lead singing the Tomorrow Is A Day Away song during the End Credits :eek:

americanguy96
04-17-2006, 01:23 PM
The movie needs to end with the following:

1) A feeling of completion: I don't want to feel like nothing really happenend in the end. I know we probably won't, but I really hope we are all left with some sort of emotional impact, even if its the same one that we had at the end of X2, Jean dying and not knowing what the President was going to do, but still with hope.

2) Deaths meaning something: We all know that deaths are going to occur. By the end of the movie, they had better really really mean something to the plot. I want the deaths being recognized as something that really affected everyone but the X-Men realize they must move on in order to honor their fallen heroes.

3) Jean Grey- I'm not entirely sure what I want to happen here, but something pretty big must happen or this movie will be a letdown in my mind. If she dies, she better not die evil.

cyke93
04-17-2006, 01:25 PM
the thing is, she cant die in the last film and then die for real in this one, even though thats what happened, they could do it like the x-men cartoons back in the 90's, where it played out almost similar to the comics but jean lives at the end and we didnt go through this whole, cacoon and clone stuff

MoiBijou
04-17-2006, 01:26 PM
With a dark future for mutants, Sinister appearing and setting a X4 and (this goes for Cyke fans) with Cyclops as the leader.

BHD
04-17-2006, 01:40 PM
it should end with the credits....oooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaa.
heh, just kidding. I like your idea MoiBijou, although Cyclops will probably die in this flick:(

HughJackFan420
04-17-2006, 01:45 PM
if Cyclops dies or is left for dead Mr. Sinister should rescue him and take him in as something he might be able to use as well as have a shadowy silhouette of Apocalypse. something of an Age of the Apocalypse cliffhanger. i only say this since Angel is in it and i doubt he turns into Archangel in this one.

Lightning Strykez!
04-17-2006, 02:08 PM
What happened to the goatee? :p

I still have the goatee. But this board has made me scratch it to death. :cool:

eXperiment
04-17-2006, 03:03 PM
With credits, just jokin, I think that angel should turn into archangel sometime at the end of the movie. Thats the only thing I want (and maybe a apocalypse reference).

tonytr1687
04-17-2006, 03:16 PM
This is how I would end it:

Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Quills, and Multiple Man are dead.
Pyro and Psylocke are in prison.
Juggernaut and Arclight are on the loose.
Callisto, Leech, and others escape underground. Form the Morlocks we know from the comics.
Storm gives the eulogy at Xavier's funeral.
A now normal Jean is in hiding from the military/govnt at the mansion. Her and Scott watch the funeral from a window.
Scott takes over headmaster duties from Xavier.
Logan finally makes the school his home.
Rogue accepts her powers and tells Bobby to be with Kitty.
The President gives Trask the go ahead to put Sentinels into mass production.
Beast and Angel stay with the X-men.

A combination of tragedy and hope. Also a set-up for more Sentinels, Morlocks, and Marauders in X4. And both Scott and Jean are alive to take part in a Sinister storyline.

Aiden
04-17-2006, 03:23 PM
That would be an excellent ending

eXperiment
04-17-2006, 03:34 PM
This is how I would end it:

Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Quills, and Multiple Man are dead.
Pyro and Psylocke are in prison.
Juggernaut and Arclight are on the loose.
Callisto, Leech, and others escape underground. Form the Morlocks we know from the comics.
Storm gives the eulogy at Xavier's funeral.
A now normal Jean is in hiding from the military/govnt at the mansion. Her and Scott watch the funeral from a window.
Scott takes over headmaster duties from Xavier.
Logan finally makes the school his home.
Rogue accepts her powers and tells Bobby to be with Kitty.
The President gives Trask the go ahead to put Sentinels into mass production.
Beast and Angel stay with the X-men.

A combination of tragedy and hope. Also a set-up for more Sentinels, Morlocks, and Marauders in X4. And both Scott and Jean are alive to take part in a Sinister storyline.

fantastic ending
***claps hands***

Sunstar
04-17-2006, 03:38 PM
This is how I would end it:

Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Quills, and Multiple Man are dead.
Pyro and Psylocke are in prison.
Juggernaut and Arclight are on the loose.
Callisto, Leech, and others escape underground. Form the Morlocks we know from the comics.
Storm gives the eulogy at Xavier's funeral.
A now normal Jean is in hiding from the military/govnt at the mansion. Her and Scott watch the funeral from a window.
Scott takes over headmaster duties from Xavier.
Logan finally makes the school his home.
Rogue accepts her powers and tells Bobby to be with Kitty.
The President gives Trask the go ahead to put Sentinels into mass production.
Beast and Angel stay with the X-men.

A combination of tragedy and hope. Also a set-up for more Sentinels, Morlocks, and Marauders in X4. And both Scott and Jean are alive to take part in a Sinister storyline.

That's actually quite an interesting ending but I think Leech will stay at the mansion instead of joining Callisto! I like your idea about Jean hiding in the mansion from the government! It's just like in the cartoon when the Shiar wanted to kill Jean but in the movieverse their role will be played by the government!

tonytr1687
04-17-2006, 04:23 PM
That's actually quite an interesting ending but I think Leech will stay at the mansion instead of joining Callisto! I like your idea about Jean hiding in the mansion from the government! It's just like in the cartoon when the Shiar wanted to kill Jean but in the movieverse their role will be played by the government!

Well I know in the actual movie Leech will probably end up at the mansion, but this is just how I would have done it.

dr venture
04-17-2006, 04:37 PM
With a dark future for mutants, Sinister appearing and setting a X4 and (this goes for Cyke fans) with Cyclops as the leader.

i like this ending

jimjam-06
04-17-2006, 06:42 PM
I've got a hunch that the funeral be near the end, but I think the end itself will be the school opening up again.

I strongly believe the funeral will be at the beginning and will be Jeans, I think it sets up everything perfectly (bringing Beast back, who knew Jean before when he was an X-man and cared for her + brings Moira McTaggart who must have known her)

I think the absense of Cyclops and Xavier means they must be watching from above (too emotionaly hurt to be there)

Or else cyclops is emotionally torn apart and goes back to where she died rather than attend the funeral


This is how I would end it:

Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Quills, and Multiple Man are dead.
Pyro and Psylocke are in prison.
Juggernaut and Arclight are on the loose.
Callisto, Leech, and others escape underground. Form the Morlocks we know from the comics.
Storm gives the eulogy at Xavier's funeral.
A now normal Jean is in hiding from the military/govnt at the mansion. Her and Scott watch the funeral from a window.
Scott takes over headmaster duties from Xavier.
Logan finally makes the school his home.
Rogue accepts her powers and tells Bobby to be with Kitty.
The President gives Trask the go ahead to put Sentinels into mass production.
Beast and Angel stay with the X-men.

A combination of tragedy and hope. Also a set-up for more Sentinels, Morlocks, and Marauders in X4. And both Scott and Jean are alive to take part in a Sinister storyline.


This is an interesting and ok ending but has flaws...

I would suggest it would end with Jean dying GOOD or surviving (brought back by Cyclops)
and X-men going forth and trying to move on... where the world is either becoming at peace or at least peaceful for the moment.

I like your ideas of mixes of optimism and tragedy, I hope it ends like that

BMM
04-17-2006, 06:48 PM
A decent conclusion with a sense of purpose, that doesn't have some ridiculous cliff-hanger ending so as to detract from everything meaningful that's been accomplished thus far and that implies that the franchise is just going to become some villain of the week vehicle for ridiculous characters and even more ridiculous storylines.

LEX
04-17-2006, 06:54 PM
Well, people here pretty much answered the question for me. The ending should be all the survivors at the mansion, with parents coming to pick up their mutant children for the holiday. Beast, Storm and Iceman are helping them. Logan is somewhere alone in the north. Sinister appears in the end (definitely). Most of Magneto's mutants go into hiding with Callisto (with one eye) and form a group called the Morlocks.

Seems about right to me. Hope.

Though, I really hope that Jean Grey and Cyclops will be ogether at the mansion, helping out the student.

Spidey 2007
04-17-2006, 07:08 PM
Well, people here pretty much answered the question for me. The ending should be all the survivors at the mansion, with parents coming to pick up their mutant children for the holiday. Beast, Storm and Iceman are helping them. Logan is somewhere alone in the north. Sinister appears in the end (definitely). Most of Magneto's mutants go into hiding with Callisto (with one eye) and form a group called the Morlocks.

Seems about right to me. Hope.

Though, I really hope that Jean Grey and Cyclops will be ogether at the mansion, helping out the student.


that woudl be utterly perfect...EXCEPT the SINISTER part....i really dislike how everyone wants this to happen, how the hell was it even brought up.(Grammer said...) blah blah. I want to come from the theater with a sense of fullfillment and peace.

I 99.9% doubt he will show up. I love the morlock idea, and i can just imagin it now the camera panning over the crowd of mutatns in the sewers ect.....

The Montage idea is really great, and it will really gieve it heart. But sticking sinister in there wont, lol. We dont need a villian cliffhanger, and from what "they" have been saying it will end as if it were the last of the trilogy and movies, so i highly doubt the appearence of one of the biggest x-villians is going to happen.

Deep Thinkin'!
04-17-2006, 07:17 PM
This is how I would end it:

Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Quills, and Multiple Man are dead.
Pyro and Psylocke are in prison.
Juggernaut and Arclight are on the loose.
Callisto, Leech, and others escape underground. Form the Morlocks we know from the comics.
Storm gives the eulogy at Xavier's funeral.
A now normal Jean is in hiding from the military/govnt at the mansion. Her and Scott watch the funeral from a window.
Scott takes over headmaster duties from Xavier.
Logan finally makes the school his home.
Rogue accepts her powers and tells Bobby to be with Kitty.
The President gives Trask the go ahead to put Sentinels into mass production.
Beast and Angel stay with the X-men.

A combination of tragedy and hope. Also a set-up for more Sentinels, Morlocks, and Marauders in X4. And both Scott and Jean are alive to take part in a Sinister storyline.

Sounds interesting.

tonytr1687
04-17-2006, 07:18 PM
that woudl be utterly perfect...EXCEPT the SINISTER part....i really dislike how everyone wants this to happen, how the hell was it even brought up.(Grammer said...) blah blah. I want to come from the theater with a sense of fullfillment and peace.

I 99.9% doubt he will show up. I love the morlock idea, and i can just imagin it now the camera panning over the crowd of mutatns in the sewers ect.....

The Montage idea is really great, and it will really gieve it heart. But sticking sinister in there wont, lol. We dont need a villian cliffhanger, and from what "they" have been saying it will end as if it were the last of the trilogy and movies, so i highly doubt the appearence of one of the biggest x-villians is going to happen.

Yeah I dont think a Sinister cliffhanger should happen. He can be the main threat in X4 without having a surprise cameo at the end of X3. The only "villian" cliffhanger that I think should happen is Trask getting the go ahead to start making Sentinels, or just more of them if one or two appear in the climax. Anyway, a Sinister cliffhanger would be too confusing for general audiences unless they made it somewhat vague like X2's ending.

tonytr1687
04-17-2006, 07:19 PM
Sounds interesting.

Oh and I forgot to mention: Callisto would also lose her eye in the final battle and be wearing an eye patch when we see her with the others in the sewers.

Spidey 2007
04-17-2006, 07:26 PM
Oh and I forgot to mention: Callisto would also lose her eye in the final battle and be wearing an eye patch when we see her with the others in the sewers.

of course, that would give me chills unlimited

LEX
04-17-2006, 07:28 PM
that woudl be utterly perfect...EXCEPT the SINISTER part....i really dislike how everyone wants this to happen, how the hell was it even brought up.(Grammer said...) blah blah. I want to come from the theater with a sense of fullfillment and peace.

I 99.9% doubt he will show up. I love the morlock idea, and i can just imagin it now the camera panning over the crowd of mutatns in the sewers ect.....

The Montage idea is really great, and it will really gieve it heart. But sticking sinister in there wont, lol. We dont need a villian cliffhanger, and from what "they" have been saying it will end as if it were the last of the trilogy and movies, so i highly doubt the appearence of one of the biggest x-villians is going to happen.Well, they don't have to make him out as Sinister. He could be some human scientist named "Essex" doing something, God knows what. Maybe stick Dr Kavita Rao in there with him. I have a feeling that we'll be having Xavier's narration in the ending with flashes of Storm/Beast/Bobby supervising the younger mutants as their parents pick them up, Logan on his journey, Magneto's mutants forming into the Morlocks inside the sewers with Callisto as their leader, showing the humans protesting, doctors doing experiments or the cure or something in a lab (Essex and Rao?).

Deep Thinkin'!
04-17-2006, 07:33 PM
I dunno how I'm going to survive the scene where Prof. X dies. I gotta soft spot for the old guy. Thinking of which, I have a soft spot for just about everyone in this film. But nevermind.

The ending is so unpredictable to me. I had no idea in X2 that Jean was going to die. So, pretty much, I have no clue how this thing is going to end. Well, I do, but not enough to sastify.

bluewolv
04-17-2006, 07:38 PM
I think the movie should end with Storm logging on to x-menthelaststand.com and discovering that the website has been updated, thus providing a future of hope for mutants...and their fans

Spidey 2007
04-17-2006, 07:42 PM
Well, they don't have to make him out as Sinister. He could be some human scientist named "Essex" doing something, God knows what. Maybe stick Dr Kavita Rao in there with him. I have a feeling that we'll be having Xavier's narration in the ending with flashes of Storm/Beast/Bobby supervising the younger mutants as their parents pick them up, Logan on his journey, Magneto's mutants forming into the Morlocks inside the sewers with Callisto as their leader, showing the humans protesting, doctors doing experiments or the cure or something in a lab (Essex and Rao?).



hmmm there we go, good good stuff. If it were like that then id totally go for that. I had just pictured...whenver everyone sayd they want sinister in the end of this film...i see him during the final battle standing there in some ****ty movie makeup...i dunno, i guess i dont have the faith that he would look great in his "sinister" costume on screen. But the idea of him begin a scientist or some shiz would be great for the movie verse, and if there is another x-men we can go ahead and turn him into the big blue guy :)
im not entirely SURE what his past or origin was in the comics...but for the movieverse that works rather well....:up: :up:

Spidey 2007
04-17-2006, 07:42 PM
I think the movie should end with Storm logging on to x-menthelaststand.com and discovering that the website has been updated, thus providing a future of hope for mutants...and their fans

lol so tru....:up:

LEX
04-17-2006, 07:44 PM
hmmm there we go, good good stuff. If it were like that then id totally go for that. I had just pictured...whenver everyone sayd they want sinister in the end of this film...i see him during the final battle standing there in some ****ty movie makeup...i dunno, i guess i dont have the faith that he would look great in his "sinister" costume on screen. But the idea of him begin a scientist or some shiz would be great for the movie verse, and if there is another x-men we can go ahead and turn him into the big blue guy :)
im not entirely SURE what his past or origin was in the comics...but for the movieverse that works rather well....:up: :up:
I've always hated Sinister's costume. It's ugly. :down

flavio_lebeau
04-17-2006, 07:45 PM
i would like an end with everybody in the cast partying like in those corny sitcoms, Anna, Halle and Famke hugging and sending kisses to camera while a dirty pop song is in the background. Patrick Stewart dancing the Numa-numa, Rebecca holding a glass of champagne with Hugh and all that...
Okay, not really :o
I would like a dark end, with hope to a better future though. Some deaths, sad X-men, but hopeful people nonetheless...

Abaddon
04-17-2006, 07:48 PM
They all sing "Where do we go.....from here?"

liverlips
04-17-2006, 07:54 PM
Gambit, Rogue, Angel, Cyke and Nightcrawler (stunt double) save the day at Alcatraz (how they get there is beyond me). Scott convinces Jean to turn on Magneto. With their leader gone, the Brotherhood reluctantly disband.

A funeral is held for the Prof and Wolverine. Scott & Jean settle down; Beast & Storm fill X's shoes and Gambit is the new kid in school. Pretty basic, but I'd be happy with it.

LEX
04-17-2006, 07:54 PM
Oh, I forgot something. They should..

1. Have Xavier narrate the whole ending about moving on and having hope for the future;
2. Storm, Bobby and Beast outside of the mansion while parents pick up their mutant kids;
3. Magneto's mutants surviving in the sewers and forming a group called Morlocks and Callisto leads them (one eye);
4. Humans protesting;
5. Scientists continue doing their experiments on the cure (Sinister and Rao, possibly?);
6. And Bolivar Trask is in a warehouse, looking at an army of unactivated Sentinels. We see a zoom-in on one of the Sentinels' eye in the war room, activating and opening its eye.

The end.

Mr. Vice
04-17-2006, 07:56 PM
The ending should have Wolverine missing and the death of Professor X. And since Professor X is dead, they should have a scene at the end with Storm taking over at the school. Then cut to a scene with Jean in what looks like a spaceship talking to a big, apocalyptic figure about the future of the war between mutants and humans being over with. Then have that figure say: " No, Jean, you're wrong...THE WAR HAS JUST BEGUN!.:up:

LEX
04-17-2006, 07:57 PM
Spaceship? What the hell?..

flavio_lebeau
04-17-2006, 07:57 PM
Oh, I forgot something. They should..

1. Have Xavier narrate the whole ending about moving on and having hope for the future;
2. Storm, Bobby and Beast outside of the mansion while parents pick up their mutant kids;
3. Magneto's mutants surviving in the sewers and forming a group called Morlocks and Callisto leads them (one eye);
4. Humans protesting;
5. Scientists continue doing their experiments on the cure (Sinister and Rao, possibly?);
6. And Bolivar Trask is in a warehouse, looking at an army of unactivated Sentinels. We see a zoom-in on one of the Sentinels' eye in the war room, activating and opening its eye.

The end.
i second your thoughts until number four :cool:

LEX
04-17-2006, 07:59 PM
Wishful thinking, though.

GNR
04-17-2006, 08:01 PM
credits

flavio_lebeau
04-17-2006, 08:01 PM
arent we all? :O
i think it would be great if that scene of Storm hugging Leech was the last one...of course, with a voice-over from Professor, talking about how this conflict will never end and about hope...

LEX
04-17-2006, 08:02 PM
But I want a cliffhanger. :p

xwolverine2
04-17-2006, 08:04 PM
But I want a cliffhanger. :p
no.... i dont want one because i know it might never be "answered":(

X-Maniac
04-17-2006, 08:04 PM
Jean will be normal but still superpowered and make everyone a nice cup of tea, but she'll forget her new power and demolecularise the entire kitchen when she switches the kettle on.

I think it'll end with the credits. That's usual, isn't it?

LEX
04-17-2006, 08:06 PM
no.... i dont want one because i know it might never be "answered":(
The X2 cliffhanger kept me sane ever since I saw it. No cliffhanger, I go crazy of knowing that the X-Men movies are truly over.

Spidey 2007
04-17-2006, 08:15 PM
The X2 cliffhanger kept me sane ever since I saw it. No cliffhanger, I go crazy of knowing that the X-Men movies are truly over.


well, its better for them to be over then to contiunue and be totally made a joke.

Best case scenerio: Bryan Singer coming back.

BMM
04-17-2006, 08:18 PM
well, its better for them to be over then to contiunue and be totally made a joke.

Best case scenerio: Bryan Singer coming back.

Haha. Well . . . I don't know about the last part of your post ever happening, but I think you're dead on with the first part.

freshandclean
04-17-2006, 08:23 PM
the thing is, she cant die in the last film and then die for real in this one, even though thats what happened, they could do it like the x-men cartoons back in the 90's, where it played out almost similar to the comics but jean lives at the end and we didnt go through this whole, cacoon and clone stuff

Ick. I hated that ending. Didn't she get lobotomized or something. Jean needs to die at the end by her own hand. Only way they could do justice to the original story.

A lot of folks seem to want everyone to live happily ever after. I want closure, but some realistic consequences of war. Not everyone comes home to their family. Peace doesn't reign on Earth. Not everyone survives.

I like the idea of the survivors, Storm and Beast probably, becoming headmasters/mistresses with Xavier gone (though I like the idea of him narrating. It would be nice if they grabbed a quote from one of the earlier films like they did with Jean's speech.) Wolverine leaving to grieve and have his own adventures (don't really like the idea of him staying around, doesn't seem like the type.)

I agree that Sinister is kinda WTF? I don't want no clones or Madeline Priors. Please. If they keep it grounded maybe by making him a geneticist who experiments on mutants/Morlocks and has his band of Maurader mutants who do his dirty work, that might work. But no white face and no red diamond on his forehead. That said, I don't want a cliffhanger. If the next movies suck I want this "trilogy" to hold up on it's own.

Abaddon
04-17-2006, 08:25 PM
Thing is,Jean already "died" in the last film.

BMM
04-17-2006, 08:28 PM
True . . . hmmm. Jean's resolution in X3 will definitely be interesting, whether it be via death or by some other means. It's hard to picture.

xwolverine2
04-17-2006, 08:32 PM
The X2 cliffhanger kept me sane ever since I saw it. No cliffhanger, I go crazy of knowing that the X-Men movies are truly over.
yeah but i dont want to be left on the edge of my seat for ten years after..:down :(

freshandclean
04-17-2006, 08:36 PM
Thing is,Jean already "died" in the last film.

Well she died twice in the original story, well sorta. When piloting the spaceship she almost died but her power jumpstarted and saved her and she became Phoenix (minus retcon). That's analogous to Jean "dying" to save the X-Men at Alkali Lake. It depends on how they explain her surviving.

I just can't see a way that she could survive and still have the impact that the Dark Phoenix saga had. I mean someone here even went so far to say "Isn't she a doctor? Maybe she can become a full time doctor afterwards?" I mean, WTF? Everyone talks about Scott has to survive to stay true to the Phoenix story, but they jump at the chance to have Jean "cured" or "depowered" or whatever. I mean talk about straying far away from the original (I don't count the animated series which sanitized the whole story). Do people just want Scott and Jean to live happily ever after?

BMM
04-17-2006, 08:40 PM
Well she died twice in the original story, well sorta. When piloting the spaceship she almost died but her power jumpstarted and saved her and she became Phoenix (minus retcon). That's analogous to Jean "dying" to save the X-Men at Alkali Lake. It depends on how they explain her surviving.

I just can't see a way that she could survive and still have the impact that the Dark Phoenix saga had. I mean someone here even went so far to say "Isn't she a doctor? Maybe she can become a full time doctor afterwards?" I mean, WTF? Everyone talks about Scott has to survive to stay true to the Phoenix story, but they jump at the chance to have Jean "cured" or "depowered" or whatever. I mean talk about straying far away from the original (I don't count the animated series which sanitized the whole story). Do people just want Scott and Jean to live happily ever after?

No, I agree. I don't know how this thing is going to end. I can't picture it having the emotional impact other than how it did in the comics. It will be interesting to see.

Abaddon
04-17-2006, 08:41 PM
Well she died twice in the original story, well sorta. When piloting the spaceship she almost died but her power jumpstarted and saved her and she became Phoenix (minus retcon). That's analogous to Jean "dying" to save the X-Men at Alkali Lake. It depends on how they explain her surviving.

I just can't see a way that she could survive and still have the impact that the Dark Phoenix saga had. I mean someone here even went so far to say "Isn't she a doctor? Maybe she can become a full time doctor afterwards?" I mean, WTF? Everyone talks about Scott has to survive to stay true to the Phoenix story, but they jump at the chance to have Jean "cured" or "depowered" or whatever. I mean talk about straying far away from the original (I don't count the animated series which sanitized the whole story). Do people just want Scott and Jean to live happily ever after?


Well the difference after Jeans first death,she arose immediately.In the movie its been at least a year since her death(I'm guessing).I know itd probably be more appropriate for her to die,but its still sorta the same thing we got before.I can picture audiences going "Oh.She's dead again." I wonder how Singers wouldve tried to pull this one off.

freshandclean
04-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Well the difference after Jeans first death,she arose immediately.In the movie its been at least a year since her death(I'm guessing).I know itd probably be more appropriate for her to die,but its still sorta the same thing we got before.I can picture audiences going "Oh.She's dead again." I wonder how Singers wouldve tried to pull this one off.

I get what you're saying and that was my whole fear about them doing the DPS. They would have to kill her again in the span of 2 movies. But the "Oh, she's dead again" would be kind of funny considering the comics...

DroolingforGwen
04-17-2006, 08:50 PM
THE WAY IT WILL GO:

1. Jean is killed (but the soul remains)
2. Cyclops lives (Wouldn't bother me too much if he died but it would hurt the sequels if any)
3. Logan moves on
4. Rogue rejects the cure, breaks up with Bobby but they are still good friends
5. Storm and Beast take over as leaders...
6. Xavier/Magneto dies...
7. Sinister, or Omega Red cameo (or something leading to the Wolvie spinoff), and birth of the first Setinels to setup the next trilogy...

xwolverine2
04-17-2006, 08:55 PM
[QUOTE=DroolingforGwen]
1. Jean is killed (but the soul remains)
QUOTE]
LMAO!...SOULCALIBUR!!.

"____ has been defeated but the soul still burns" (something like that)...LOL!

freshandclean
04-17-2006, 08:57 PM
So is she gonna be a ghost or something?

DroolingforGwen
04-17-2006, 08:59 PM
Cmon you know what i meant... Jean makes one last appearance to say goodbye right before she dies as Pheonix...

DarknessOfDeath
04-17-2006, 09:01 PM
hmmm I dunno... :( its hard to say when we don't know too much of what we know in terms of the Jean/Phoenix storyline in this movie... until it comes out. We'll have to wait and see.


Is it May yet? GODS!! I WANA SEE IT SO BADLY!!!!!!!!!!

BMM
04-17-2006, 09:06 PM
THE WAY IT WILL GO:

1. Jean is killed (but the soul remains)
2. Cyclops lives (Wouldn't bother me too much if he died but it would hurt the sequels if any)
3. Logan moves on
4. Rogue rejects the cure, breaks up with Bobby but they are still good friends
5. Storm and Beast take over as leaders...
6. Xavier/Magneto dies...
7. Sinister, or Omega Red cameo (or something leading to the Wolvie spinoff), and birth of the first Setinels to setup the next trilogy...

I believe the Wolverine spin-off is set to be a prequel, so I doubt will see too much branching off from X3 into it. Also, I don't think Logan will leave. I think his statement at the end of X2, "We'll be watching" shows he's commited to the team . . . and its been said that he will have somewhat of a leadership role in X3. Who knows? Maybe the events of X3 will be too much for him (possible death of Xavier or Jean) and he will leave. To me, that seems too inconclusive though. We would almost end up in the same place where we started back in X1.

RagingTempest
04-17-2006, 09:09 PM
I want Jean to be saved by Cyclops, who comes to help battle her with the team. Jean recovers and revives Pro. X, then Beast, Wolverine and Storm take care of the school while Pro. X and Jean go to Muir Island so Jean can recover from being the Phoenix.

DroolingforGwen
04-17-2006, 09:11 PM
If there is an X4... I just want to see the so called "seeds" Ratner has supposedly planted... I don't think we'll see Sinister but the Sentinels are the best bet... Is there anyone else besides those three that might make a cameo?

Abaddon
04-17-2006, 09:16 PM
I know itd be corny,but I would prefer ot if Jean somehow found a way to remolecularize Scott.Like maybe when she erases him,part of his mind enters hers or something.I don't know.:(

heck yeh baby X
04-17-2006, 09:26 PM
if Jean dies, then Cyclops should also...I can't stand to watch him cry on Logan's Shoulder again. If Cyclops dies, then Jean should also....cause it wouldnt be right!!!!! If Prof. X dies by the hands of Dark Phoenix...I'll be pissed

The movie should end kinda like the first season of the 90's X-Men series........stating that some mutants such as the X-Men are there to protect against evil mutants. Magneto should be gutted by Wolverine if he's to die. Ice-Man should have his ass handed to him by Pyro. Kitty and Rogue should pair up.....

Darkie
04-17-2006, 09:38 PM
no please!!! let her live!

DarknessOfDeath
04-17-2006, 09:42 PM
no please!!! let her live!

I agree...but if she dies...she's gonna back either way.

xwolverine2
04-17-2006, 09:42 PM
I agree...but if she dies...she's gonna back either way.
lol..

not really

Darkie
04-17-2006, 09:43 PM
I agree...but if she dies...she's gonna back either way.

but in which movie? x3 is the last one :O

DarknessOfDeath
04-17-2006, 09:47 PM
lol..

not really

well I meant hypathethically... as in IF there is an X4...but hey i was referring to the comics for some reason...

berzerko89
04-17-2006, 10:05 PM
no please!!! let her live!

i want her tive too... well in the movies if you kill a comic character they die for good.... they only live long enough... in the comics! lol. ;)

phantom47
04-17-2006, 10:06 PM
Jean should just lose control and fly higher and higher and higher, as the sentinels are chasing after her, and with a burst of energy she destroys herself and all the sentinels!!!

The end

Deep Thinkin'!
04-17-2006, 10:23 PM
Jean should just lose control and fly higher and higher and higher, as the sentinels are chasing after her, and with a burst of energy she destroys herself and all the sentinels!!!

The end

I hope not! I don't want Jean to die AGAIN. It drove me insane when she died in X2. Plus, I don't think it would be a smart idea for her to die in two movies. It would be way too much like the X2 if she died again. Not logical if you ask me. But I doubt she will die again. Just a matter of reasoning.

neemer5
04-17-2006, 10:26 PM
Stan Lee wakes up panting: "It was all just a dream..."

Eros
04-17-2006, 10:50 PM
maybe the movie ends with all the X-men standing shoulder to shoulder, and refuseing to back down as numerous sentinals are flying their way.

GothicPowerMix1
04-17-2006, 11:00 PM
I highly HIGHLY doubt that this will be the last "X-Men" Movie. This Franchise is a VERY BIG MONEY MAKER for FOX & with Star Wars out of the way I am sure that FOX will want to keep the Franchises that can & will always make money.

LEX
04-17-2006, 11:03 PM
Agreed. Fox wouldn't be stupid enough just to make this movie their last X-Men movie.

Jean should just lose control and fly higher and higher and higher, as the sentinels are chasing after her, and with a burst of energy she destroys herself and all the sentinels!!!

The end
You know, that's exactly what I thought if the Sentinels are in the final battle.

chaseter
04-17-2006, 11:05 PM
Pyro burns away all the women's clothing.

cyke93
04-17-2006, 11:06 PM
several marvel comics have been made to the big screen, only spidey and x-men have succeeded. the x-universe has so many characters and stories that it would be dumb of them not to continue.

i wish the movie would end much like the dark phoenix ended in the cartoons. jean sacrifices herself but lives and is safely back in cyclops arms.

having wolverine take on a leadership position is just so far out there. storm is acceptable, but logan ?!

LEX
04-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Maybe we should have something like an ending-ending like in Daredevil and Constantine. A new scene after the credits. :D

Deep Thinkin'!
04-17-2006, 11:35 PM
having wolverine take on a leadership position is just so far out there. storm is acceptable, but logan ?!

**shrugs** I thought so too. Even though I'm a full out Logan fan, Storm would be the most likely to take the leadership. Logan is kinda still a new guy to the X-men in this movie. (unless there is a longer time period between X2 and X3) I guess they just did that cause he's been the main charater in the last two. Maybe they didn't feel right having a woman take the lead. That frustrates me, cause women are just as equal to men. Storm, well what? Hasn't she been an x-man..... i mean an x-woman far longer than Logan?

Abaddon
04-17-2006, 11:37 PM
Lets just hope we don't get another dose of Wolverine and His Amazing Friends.:)

Exploding Boy
04-17-2006, 11:38 PM
Storm is a leader in the comics and so is Scott and they havent been at all in the movies.

WorthyStevens
04-17-2006, 11:49 PM
The movie should end with the credits starting to roll. :p

Eros
04-17-2006, 11:53 PM
in the end all the X-men are dead except for Wolverine, and dozens of sentinals comeing at him. He looks at them and smiles, and then pulls out his claws and gets into a battle stance. Then this should set up for the wolverine spin-off called Wolverine:The last X-man

prins777
04-17-2006, 11:59 PM
I think it would be great if it ended on an upbeat note with the X-men all gathered at the mansion playing a game of softball.

Eros
04-18-2006, 12:01 AM
prins777 that ending would be up their with Darth vader screaming
"NOOOOO" in episode 3.

Abaddon
04-18-2006, 12:01 AM
I think it would be great if it ended on an upbeat note with the X-men all gathered at the mansion playing a game of softball.


someone liked X-men evolution.

LEX
04-18-2006, 12:02 AM
They should end the movie with both hope and a cliffhanger, something vague like the X2 cliffhanger.

tonytr1687
04-18-2006, 12:24 AM
I want Jean to be saved by Cyclops, who comes to help battle her with the team. Jean recovers and revives Pro. X, then Beast, Wolverine and Storm take care of the school while Pro. X and Jean go to Muir Island so Jean can recover from being the Phoenix.

Why do you ppl keep saying Cyke should live and then in the same sentence say Beast and Storm should take care of the school? What the hell? Cyclops is the one who should take the reigns from Xavier, it was even foreshadowed in X1.

phantom47
04-18-2006, 12:36 AM
maybe Xavier doesnt die, but Cyclops dies...and Xavier puts psycic blocks on Jean again, and releasing all memories of Cyke.

Sunstar
04-18-2006, 12:44 AM
I don't want the movie to end with a death like in X2 especially not Jean's death! There are going to be deaths but they should be throughout the movie not at the end(unless they are minor characters like Arclight and Quill)!

I think the movie should end with the funeral and all the children coming back to the school like what the trailers and pics have shown us! If this is the last movie then those scenes would give the X-men series closure!

01lduff
04-18-2006, 04:18 AM
it will end with the surviors bac at school teaching like storm english or something beast chemstry and logan teaching pe or fighting skills or something like that and so on ans so forth

prins777
04-18-2006, 06:49 AM
prins777 that ending would be up their with Darth vader screaming
"NOOOOO" in episode 3.
C'mon, one of the classic scenes from X-men comics is the entire team letting off some steam on the baseball diamond. After all the angst these people have had to endure, it would be a nice little lighthearted moment.

Optic Rage
04-18-2006, 06:53 AM
Yeh the x-men play baseball quite a bit....

I would kinda like that ending...even tough it dosent really fit with the tone of the movie...

genufine
04-18-2006, 07:50 AM
I've got a hunch that the funeral be near the end, but I think the end itself will be the school opening up again.

nah, i think its jeans funeral in the beginning of the movie.

DarknessOfDeath
04-18-2006, 07:55 AM
the film should end with the X-Men in their swim gear running along the beach and into the water ala Baywatch. :p omg... can you picture that? I can... :p

GreatWhiteWhale
04-18-2006, 07:57 AM
HOw should the movie end?

With Credits.

Hahaha haha ha...

seriously.

With a collection of famous 'ending' scenes taken straight from the comic books..

There's been some really great scenes in those thingies.

X-Maniac
04-18-2006, 07:58 AM
nah, i think its jeans funeral in the beginning of the movie.

Hmm... I'm not so sure. Why show the emotional scene of a funeral if Jean turns out to be still alive? They would already have had a funeral service for Jean as the movie is 6-8 months after the end of X2.

LEX
04-18-2006, 08:04 AM
I have a really strong feeling that it's in the beginning of the movie. And it's not the funeral, but a memorial. It makes sense since Kinberg has already confirmed that the movie is about six months to a year to have a memorial.

berzerko89
04-18-2006, 08:15 AM
I have a really strong feeling that it's in the beginning of the movie. And it's not the funeral, but a memorial. It makes sense since Kinberg has already confirmed that the movie is about six months to a year to have a memorial.

im guessing that memorial scene will at be the first parts of the film... or dont you think that it would make a perfect ending... the movie ends w/ a memorial? jean sacrifices herself and left no trace of her existence? :confused:

jcykeson
04-18-2006, 08:24 AM
with consistency in both the movie and comics.....with cyclops! :P He did told Xavier he'll take care of the school, and also he is the headmaster of the school in the comics...

Keymaker
04-18-2006, 10:45 AM
With ending credits.

Uncanny
04-18-2006, 10:54 AM
With Mr. Sinister or Apocolyspe standing far away laughing.

MutantMetalhead
04-18-2006, 11:25 AM
With the president, Trask, etc talking to the X-men about an anomaly in the cure, and that some mutants were strangely unaffected by it. Cut to: human Raven Darkholme walking into a lab, carrying mutant genetic research stolen from Worthington Labs. She gives the research to a man named Dr. Essex, and her eyes turn yellow.

Deep Thinkin'!
04-18-2006, 11:37 AM
With the president, Trask, etc talking to the X-men about an anomaly in the cure, and that some mutants were strangely unaffected by it. Cut to: human Raven Darkholme walking into a lab, carrying mutant genetic research stolen from Worthington Labs. She gives the research to a man named Dr. Essex, and her eyes turn yellow.

if they did that, then there would have to be an x4. Ooo. i hope they do SOMETHING like there, where it leaves you hangin. Cause then, THAT MEANS another X MOVIE! woot!

Knives122
04-18-2006, 11:38 AM
they should do what they did in Batman Forever/& Robin, have all the X-men run toward the screen while the "X-light" is behind them

lordofthenerds
04-18-2006, 11:39 AM
they should do what they did in Batman Forever/& Robin, have all the X-men run toward the screen while the "X-light is behind them"
LOL, kind of like the polish poster. :up:

sparky_parker
04-18-2006, 11:41 AM
it should end with the song ' Always look on the bright side of life ' ala Life Of Brian!

neemer5
04-18-2006, 11:49 AM
With the entire cast in a song and dance number, ending in a mutant kick line...http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3928/tonys04230jb.jpg
yeah!

sparky_parker
04-18-2006, 11:50 AM
oh yes!!

Deep Thinkin'!
04-18-2006, 11:51 AM
With the entire cast in a song and dance number, ending in a mutant kick line...http://www.jackmanslanding.com/gallery/deb-others/images/tonys04-23.jpg
yeah!

Yeah. Could you imagine them all in costume doing the can can? With Wolverine or Magneto in the middle singing like this dude in the pic. Oh man, that would be hilarious.

phantom47
04-18-2006, 02:01 PM
"""""With the president, Trask, etc talking to the X-men about an anomaly in the cure, and that some mutants were strangely unaffected by it. Cut to: human Raven Darkholme walking into a lab, carrying mutant genetic research stolen from Worthington Labs. She gives the research to a man named Dr. Essex, and her eyes turn yellow.""""

:):):up::up::up::up:

Crimson Warrior
04-18-2006, 02:05 PM
they should do what they did in Batman Forever/& Robin, have all the X-men run toward the screen while the "X-light" is behind them

I almost spit out my cereal when I read this LOL

Bastila
04-18-2006, 02:05 PM
With everyone alive and happy.

Johnny Israel
04-18-2006, 02:19 PM
With the president, Trask, etc talking to the X-men about an anomaly in the cure, and that some mutants were strangely unaffected by it. Cut to: human Raven Darkholme walking into a lab, carrying mutant genetic research stolen from Worthington Labs. She gives the research to a man named Dr. Essex, and her eyes turn yellow.

That is the best ending i've heard. Major props :up: :up: :up: :up: :xmen:

Deep Thinkin'!
04-18-2006, 02:52 PM
my ending: (i got some ideas from other people)
the war is over, magneto some how escaped. Jean is back at the x-mansion, hiding from the country and back to normal. Scott scarificed himself to save everyone from being killed by Jean. (he got through to her, but died in the event). Wolverine settles himself at the x-mansion, him and Jean have a close bond (as friends..... although the still have romantic feelings for each other)
MYSTIQUE is living a normal life as a human, but unhappy. But then discovers the cure didn't work as she accidently morphes into someone.
Professor is gone, Jean is guilty and trying to find a way to bring him back.
Storm is leading the X-men, with Wolverine second in command.
Bobby and Kitty are together, Rogue still a little upset.

I know, kinda lame, but it's a thought.

invincible mann
04-18-2006, 03:34 PM
with loose ends not everything resolved

Jack Phantom
04-18-2006, 04:41 PM
The sort of ending I'd like personally goes something like this...the war is massive and there are many casualties...Sentinels are introduced in a limited capacity (as they are still experimental) to aid in ending this be-all-end-all battle. Xavier is dead...and without a clear cut death scene we are left to believe Magneto is dead. Jean is brought back to her senses and helps to end the war but in the process, strains herself to the point that her powers disappear (stripping her 'psychic gears'). She must live as a homo-sapien and deal with what she did to Scott. Wolverine is disillusioned and moves on to his own adventures. Beast takes over as Headmaster of the school.

Abaddon
04-18-2006, 04:47 PM
Wolverine was never illusioned to begin with.

Jack Phantom
04-18-2006, 04:57 PM
"Disillusioned" in that he thought he'd found a place that he might belong... however the war changes his feeling with Xavier gone and Jean along with so many others 'forever' changed. This ending leaves open the possibility of X3 acting as a bookend to this trilogy...but leaving open the possibility of an X4 in which the government begins mass production of Sentinels to manage muties that refused the cure...Emma Frost with the HellFire Club manipulate Jean so that she regains her powers and loses her memory...forcing Beast to lead a team of younger X-men including a brash-outsider (GAMBIT) to fight the Sentinels and Jean with the HellFire Club...that opens up a lot for additional sequels following stories that would work well in the movie-verse and please comic fans too...maybe?

WorthyStevens
04-18-2006, 04:59 PM
"Disillusioned" in that he thought he'd found a place that he might belong... however the war changes his feeling with Xavier gone and Jean along with so many others 'forever' changed. This ending leaves open the possibility of X3 acting as a bookend to this trilogy...but leaving open the possibility of an X4 in which the government begins mass production of Sentinels to manage muties that refused the cure...Emma Frost with the HellFire Club manipulate Jean so that she regains her powers and loses her memory...forcing Beast to lead a team of younger X-men including a brash-outsider (GAMBIT) to fight the Sentinels and Jean with the HellFire Club...that opens up a lot for additional sequels following stories that would work well in the movie-verse and please comic fans too...maybe?

Jean being manipulated again? Eh, it would be repetitive.

Abaddon
04-18-2006, 05:00 PM
"Disillusioned" in that he thought he'd found a place that he might belong... however the war changes his feeling with Xavier gone and Jean along with so many others 'forever' changed. This ending leaves open the possibility of X3 acting as a bookend to this trilogy...but leaving open the possibility of an X4 in which the government begins mass production of Sentinels to manage muties that refused the cure...Emma Frost with the HellFire Club manipulate Jean so that she regains her powers and loses her memory...forcing Beast to lead a team of younger X-men including a brash-outsider (GAMBIT) to fight the Sentinels and Jean with the HellFire Club...that opens up a lot for additional sequels following stories that would work well in the movie-verse and please comic fans too...maybe?


Well Wolverine leaving and not being sure whose side he's on has been done to death in the franchise.And Jean becoming evil...again?

Jack Phantom
04-18-2006, 05:02 PM
The first two acts of the movie could deal with the Sentinels with a slow and careful development of who and what Frost and the HellFire Club are...perhaps Jean joining them at the end to cliffhanger an X5...In the comics and 'toons Jean swayed from good to evil on many occasions...

X-Maniac
04-18-2006, 05:04 PM
With the president, Trask, etc talking to the X-men about an anomaly in the cure, and that some mutants were strangely unaffected by it. Cut to: human Raven Darkholme walking into a lab, carrying mutant genetic research stolen from Worthington Labs. She gives the research to a man named Dr. Essex, and her eyes turn yellow.

Don't like it. You can't just throw in 'anomalies' and 'strangely unaffected' without explaining - it's too random. The cure is the cure. Either it works or it doesn't. To have some people being okay, and some people not being okay, will make the audience lose interest. The cure will become a movie convenience, to cure those who the producers/scriptwriters want to cure. Why would Mystique be unaffected? What makes her special? Is it her that is different? The cure itself? Which other mutants are unaffected?

I could only see Rogue and Wolverine possibly not being affected. Wolverine's mutant healing power might treat the cure as a toxin in his body and work against it. Rogue's power to absorb the lifeforce of others might absorb the lifeforce of Leech that is in the cure and make it ineffective.

Would the cure take away Wolverine's mutant healing power before his healing power could cancel the cure? Would the cure take away Rogue's absorption power before she could absorb the power of the cure?

They are the only two possibilities for being exceptions. Unless Mystique can morph her internal body systems to stop the cure taking effect, which is highly unlikely....

tonytr1687
04-18-2006, 05:05 PM
It saddens me that so many ppl here make up their own endings and still have Cyclops die.

Jack Phantom
04-18-2006, 05:06 PM
I mean what I posted above is one of a great many possibilities...It just seems as though there are far too many storyline choices to arbitrarily end these movies as a trilogy because that's the current hot marketing fad (which is the way it seems to me...DVD sales and the like.). There's a lot of room to do things storywise that a lot of people like me who've collected the books since the team was originally introduced would enjoy seeing.

X-Maniac
04-18-2006, 05:07 PM
Well Wolverine leaving and not being sure whose side he's on has been done to death in the franchise.And Jean becoming evil...again?

Agreed! No more Wolverine sitting on the fence, no more mean Jean!

Give us something NEW!

X-Maniac
04-18-2006, 05:09 PM
There's a lot of room to do things storywise that a lot of people like me who've collected the books since the team was originally introduced would enjoy seeing.

Exactly. And that's why Wolverine's crisis over leaving/joining and evil Jean are not a good idea. As you say yourself, there's a lot of room to do other things storywise. Let's not keep rehashing the same material.

Jack Phantom
04-18-2006, 05:12 PM
Well if it's something all together new that the fanbase is looking for... the producers would be wise in killing off Cyclops. And not stopping with him. The war in X3 should cause a great number of deaths and the cure depower even more than are killed in outright fighting. That leaves no option other than a brand new team with brand new characters that haven't been presented on film yet with no continuity from these three films.

Abaddon
04-18-2006, 05:13 PM
The first two acts of the movie could deal with the Sentinels with a slow and careful development of who and what Frost and the HellFire Club are...perhaps Jean joining them at the end to cliffhanger an X5...In the comics and 'toons Jean swayed from good to evil on many occasions...


That was only during the Dark Phoenix Saga.:confused:


And even if that was the case,nobody seems to see the same story retold all over again.To be honest I actually wish they'd taken an approach closer to yours in dealing with the DPS,but we have to take what we get and move on.

X-Maniac
04-18-2006, 05:29 PM
Well if it's something all together new that the fanbase is looking for... the producers would be wise in killing off Cyclops. And not stopping with him. The war in X3 should cause a great number of deaths and the cure depower even more than are killed in outright fighting. That leaves no option other than a brand new team with brand new characters that haven't been presented on film yet with no continuity from these three films.

It's not necessary to kill everyone. We want: same characters, new stories.

You want same characters, same stories (Jean and Wolverine battling their inner demons).

There are plenty of other scenarios aside from Wolverine deciding whether to leave or join and Jean going evil.

i-n-z-a-n-e
04-18-2006, 06:55 PM
It would be cool if the movie ending with some sort of open end in anticipation for the fourth one, but i don't think their going to film a 4th one anytime soon.

BMM
04-18-2006, 07:02 PM
If they can't stay true to the comics, then it shouldn't be done. Unless, there is a better or equally powerful story in the works, the franchise should take a breather.

danielderosiajp
04-18-2006, 07:11 PM
What about...

Phoenix resurrects Prof X at the end of the movie, and the camera zooms in on his face as he screams from the terror of a secret fear, and then the camera zooms out and it's Patrick Stewart in bed. There's sweat all over his face and then it shows Hugh Jackman in bed with him. "Is everything okay there, buddy?"
"My word," Stewart exclaims between deep breaths of relief, "I just had the worst dream! I was stuck in another iconic scifi role, and even though they'd promised to kill me off in the third movie, they bloody brought me back to life and.. and somehow I'd signed on for two more films! It was horrendous!"
"Don't worry there, Stewy-boy. Life's not that cruel hahahaha." And Jackman keeps laughing, and then he turns into the cut sentinal from the movie, and then Stewart screams again and the camera pans in, and then out, revealing Stewart asleep in his bed.

onceasaint
04-18-2006, 07:24 PM
I wouldnt mind some kind of take on the end of the XMen Evolution series ending. A nice montage where you see Cyclops, Storm and Beast running the school, with Rogue, Colossus, Bobby, Kitty helping out. Maybe have Wolverine leave so they can do his spinoff movie. I like the idea thats been mentioned of Callisto, Leech and some of the others settling in the sewers as the Morlocks, complete with Callisto sporting a post-battle eye patch. Maybe they have a memorial built for anyone who died in the battle. Id have someone like Cyclops give a speech the way Xavier usually does for the movies as the montage goes along, talking about how the professor told him things like this would happen, how they would have to keep going, new threats would emerge as a result of their actions (more anti-mutant protests, Trask putting sentinels into mass production), new enemies would emerge (Dr Essex in a dark lab, zooms in on his face, eyes go red), friends would part ways (logan, warren, pryo, the morlocks all going off on their own) but the XMen would always be there to fight the good fight. Maybe end it with the Xmen and the students posing for a class picture.

The Batman
04-18-2006, 07:34 PM
It saddens me that so many ppl here make up their own endings and still have Cyclops die.


Because some of them have no respect for the character, and they think cyclops dying would add to the war theme, which is a bunch of crap because cyclops is supposed to die before the war happens. Do people actually think about these things, or do they just accept everything the writers/producers/directors throw at them, even if it may be, GASP, A BAD IDEA.

Maze
04-18-2006, 07:35 PM
i want her tive too... well in the movies if you kill a comic character they die for good....

ot:Yup untill now.

Don't forget what they did to Rypley ;)

i have little doubts that they would resurect them.;)

Maze
04-18-2006, 07:36 PM
Because some of them have no respect for the character, and they think cyclops dying would add to the war theme, which is a bunch of crap because cyclops is supposed to die before the war happens. Do people actually think about these things, or do they just accept everything the writers/producers/directors throw at them, even if it may be, GASP, A BAD IDEA.
If you could avoid that type of statement , all will be fine.

thanks you.

The Batman
04-18-2006, 07:45 PM
If you could refrain that type of statement , all will be fine.

thanks you.


Sorry, but if the shoe fits. Some just dont care for the character, thats why they dont really care if he dies with barely any character development, because it will supposedly "Serve the story", or build up jean grey as a threat. It's a sad day when x-fans view the first x-man and iconic leader of the group as nothing more than a plot device

Maze
04-18-2006, 07:55 PM
Sorry, but if the shoe fits. Some just dont care for the character, thats why they dont really care if he dies with barely any character development, because it will supposedly "Serve the story", or build up jean grey as a threat. It's a sad day when x-fans view the first x-man and iconic leader of the group as nothing more than a plot device
No.

you have no right to say that.

because, you don't know

you know i am joking and such , but i'm a fan since 25 years of the character.he was the Xman who introducced me to the others.I could identify with the type of person that he was.and , when i saw the movie(especially X2) , i suffered , yup suffered in seing what he's gone through in the movies..but personnally , yes personnally , i could like the idea of seing him die if , for once he is really develloped..if it's not a stupid accident..if, there is evidence that Jean continue to love him ..not Dark Phoenix..Jean...if in giving as much love Scott has found a way even in being dead to touch her heart..and , if that lead her finally to redemption...that could be great storytelling..That doesn't mean that it will be..that could be.

You don't agree? well you don't agree.that's, opinion ,nothing else

And ,that give you no right to determine who is a fan of the character or not

The Batman
04-18-2006, 09:06 PM
I dont see what the problem is. It's just my view on some posters, nothing more or less. It dosent take away from what they know about the x-men or how much they care about certain characters. My opinion still stands. IMo, some people dont care about Cyclops and its seemingly evident in their posts. The difference between you and them is that you would like to see cyke go through character development before he dies, whereas most just want him to die to build up phoenix or the story.

Maze
04-18-2006, 09:24 PM
ok, so if i misunderstood you, i'm sorry.

it seemed to me , reading you,in general that you couldn't conceive that a true fan of the character could "accept" his death.

But it seem, i was wrong ,so, again sorry.

GoldGoblin
04-18-2006, 09:30 PM
Agreed! No more Wolverine sitting on the fence, no more mean Jean!

Give us something NEW!

^Agreed,we need something new.

berzerko89
04-18-2006, 09:37 PM
every character has had a significant role in the film and is somewhat connected to each other... the loss of cyclops will trigger jeans chaotic and dark side, she feels guilt of cyclops supposd death... the real jean, became aware that she must be killed for her powers have grown in the extent where she cant control, but she was still weak at that moment and she surrenders her whole to the dark side. can she still find the light?

tonytr1687
04-18-2006, 11:56 PM
every character has had a significant role in the film and is somewhat connected to each other... the loss of cyclops will trigger jeans chaotic and dark side, she feels guilt of cyclops supposd death... the real jean, became aware that she must be killed for her powers have grown in the extent where she cant control, but she was still weak at that moment and she surrenders her whole to the dark side. can she still find the light?

Yeah...and Cyclops merely becomes a plot device. He shouldn't just be there to help develop Jean's character. He's a character too, you know?

heck yeh baby X
04-19-2006, 12:06 PM
I bet we find out that in the end that Beast is not actually the Beast we all know and love....but rather the Dark Beast from the Age of Apocalypse posing!!!!!

WorthyStevens
04-19-2006, 12:08 PM
I bet we find out that in the end that Beast is not actually the Beast we all know and love....but rather the Dark Beast from the Age of Apocalypse posing!!!!!

For some reason, I don't think that'll happen...

heck yeh baby X
04-19-2006, 12:16 PM
For some reason, I don't think that'll happen...

I bet it will!

The_Dark_Knight
04-19-2006, 12:18 PM
I bet it will!


ummm...No...

heck yeh baby X
04-19-2006, 12:24 PM
well, its a really really really good guess!

The Batman
04-19-2006, 12:24 PM
*Jean commits suicide after Cyke manages to bring back her good side. She decides that she cant control the phoenix and dosent want to harm anyone else.

*Scott becomes headmaster of the school. Logan and Ororo retire from active duty and become trainers and teachers for the next group of X-Men.

*The ending has the foreshadowing of Mr. sinister.

Cho Chang
04-19-2006, 12:33 PM
How about:

Cyclops comes back at the end of the film for the final battle and gets killed for a second time. Then Jean uses the Phoenix force to bring him back to life but he then gets killed again because he sucks ass. The end.

Jack Phantom
04-19-2006, 02:49 PM
It's not necessary to kill everyone. We want: same characters, new stories.

You want same characters, same stories (Jean and Wolverine battling their inner demons).

There are plenty of other scenarios aside from Wolverine deciding whether to leave or join and Jean going evil.


That's pretty much at the heart of what I was pointing out. There are many other stories...what I proposed was one possibility...taking into account that we've probably seen the last X-Film with Jackman (Wolverine) for quite some time as he moves on to the Wolverine spin-off. The storyline I laid out merely provided a reason for Wolverine not being in the film. As for Jean turning to evil again, without a compelling storyline for her character which follows up with some continuity on the altered D.P. Saga we're getting in the movie-verse...how does she just pickup and carry forward? Not to mention without some sort of chunky storyline, Famke and Halle very likely will not return for a fourth (according to press quotes). So minus some meaty material for those key characters, and an explanation for Wolverine's likely absence...how do you create a story that works for an X4 that has both action/development?

Jack Phantom
04-19-2006, 02:58 PM
^ That's why I posted before that if the fanbase isn't interested in exploring what the writers/producers have left at the end of X3 to work into an X4 ... maybe Cyclops fate and that of many other key characters from this first trilogy should unequivicably answer the question of where those characters are for future reference in other films. Not to mention the dramatic possibilities involved. Then fans could have an X4 that sort of begins fresh with new characters telling stories from other X books that would be brand new.

X-Maniac
04-19-2006, 03:10 PM
That's pretty much at the heart of what I was pointing out. There are many other stories...what I proposed was one possibility...taking into account that we've probably seen the last X-Film with Jackman (Wolverine) for quite some time as he moves on to the Wolverine spin-off. The storyline I laid out merely provided a reason for Wolverine not being in the film. As for Jean turning to evil again, without a compelling storyline for her character which follows up with some continuity on the altered D.P. Saga we're getting in the movie-verse...how does she just pickup and carry forward? Not to mention without some sort of chunky storyline, Famke and Halle very likely will not return for a fourth (according to press quotes). So minus some meaty material for those key characters, and an explanation for Wolverine's likely absence...how do you create a story that works for an X4 that has both action/development?

I think we'll have seen the peak of Jean Grey's development and characterisation in X3. It would be difficult to keep her alive and have her normal again... although it would be good to see her alive as the team telepath/telekinetic and the one to operate Cerebro. I really don't know how they will deal with Phoenix at the end of X3. Does she vanish from earthly reality in a fiery flash; does she use up all her power defeating Magneto and return to normal; will she be reunited with Scott and marry him to have their child (Cable or Rachel)?

I'd like a future movie to show Storm finding romance (with Bishop, Forge or Black Panther), Gambit appearing, Colossus developing in some way (Russian government operatives such as Darkstar and Omega Red coming to try to capture him), and maybe the appearance of Hellfire Club, Sinister, Apocalypse or Magneto's vengeful children (Polaris, Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver). Sinister, Hellfire Club and Apocalypse could be hugely reinterpreted as villains.. rather than fighting the government/society from the outside as Magneto has done, these could be villains trying to rise to power within society to create a secret goverment to protect the mutant gene pool.. much more conspiratorial, subversive.

There are so many possibilties, but human drama has to be at the centre of it.

How do you think Jean's story will be dealt with in X3? Could she return to being a normal X-man, having redeemed herself (of the death of Xavier, perhaps even Cyclops too) by using all her suped-up power to kill Magneto (or revert him to childhood)? Would the X-Men welcome back someone who has (possibly) killed Xavier, the founder of the X-Men?

It would be nice to see an X4. Harry Potter has proved that a fourth movie can work without seeming at all tired or overdone. The X-Men have many more stories to tell than there are Harry Potter books. An X4 means finally seeing Gambit for a start!

liverlips
04-19-2006, 04:11 PM
several marvel comics have been made to the big screen, only spidey and x-men have succeeded. the x-universe has so many characters and stories that it would be dumb of them not to continue.

i wish the movie would end much like the dark phoenix ended in the cartoons. jean sacrifices herself but lives and is safely back in cyclops arms.

having wolverine take on a leadership position is just so far out there. storm is acceptable, but logan ?!

He's supposed to be ex-military right? I think it makes sense for him to lead the charge...just hope he dies so other characters can get some screen time in X4.

Jack Phantom
04-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Absolutely! While I doubt that I'm the biggest Gambit fan out there, IMO he would fill the personality void left by Wolverine's absence perfectly! To me, it makes a lot of sense to see Hank move into the Headmaster's role at the school and, if they could convince Halle to return, Storm in the field leader's position (Scott being gone). As for Jean, I for one, could be satisfied with her using her powers to win the battle for good in X3 and leaving herself powerless - leaving options open down the road. But like I was saying in the other posts, if the writers/producers go the route that rumors have them taking...Jean sacrificing her life to make things right might well be the only completely viable solution. In which case, the other scenerios we've batted around would still work...

Jack Phantom
04-19-2006, 04:31 PM
Depending on how clear cut Mystique's fate is in X3 it would add an interesting storyline later in another film down the road to see a movie-verse version of the "New Brotherhood." That would create a chance to see characters from the Brotherhood's comic history that heretofore haven't been screened...like Blob...Avalanche...maybe a mix of characters older and newer that haven't been seen. Then, of course, there's the Hellfire Club with the chance to see Emma Frost...which would be a good way to find a new psychic to take Jean's place eventually.

X-Maniac
04-19-2006, 05:18 PM
Absolutely! While I doubt that I'm the biggest Gambit fan out there, IMO he would fill the personality void left by Wolverine's absence perfectly! To me, it makes a lot of sense to see Hank move into the Headmaster's role at the school and, if they could convince Halle to return, Storm in the field leader's position (Scott being gone). As for Jean, I for one, could be satisfied with her using her powers to win the battle for good in X3 and leaving herself powerless - leaving options open down the road. But like I was saying in the other posts, if the writers/producers go the route that rumors have them taking...Jean sacrificing her life to make things right might well be the only completely viable solution. In which case, the other scenerios we've batted around would still work...

Yes, I agree. I think Jean has to a) vanish from the earthly plane in a fiery Phoenix flash b) return to normal power levels. To have her appear to visibly, physically die again doesn't feel right at all. It would have to be a Phoenix firebird sacrifice, as was envisaged at the end of X2 before Sentinels were ruled out... a disappearance in a massive burst of energy with a gigantic firebird effect... This is a little like the original comicbook when Dark Phoenix launched into space with a huge firebird (witnessed by the Hellfire Club!), and leaves the door open for an 'X-Men in space' story (as Brett mentioned) if that's the way the franchise goes.

She could redeem herself - before the fiery flash - only by stopping/defeating Magneto and other Brotherhood members that haven't already been defeated.

Ironically, it was Magneto who twice defeated Phoenix in the comics (once he siphoned off her cosmic lifeforce in a 'magnetic bottle' - a containment system used to control plasma energy.. plasma being the energy of the sun and stars; a second time, he gave her a lethal stoke by channelling the planet's electromagnetic energies into her; both times she was caught offguard).

But for movie purposes, Jean defeating Magneto would work well as a redemption, especially if she has killed Xavier and even Cyclops earlier on. I rather like the idea of her reducing him to infancy (as happened to him in the comics when a mutant he created turned on him)... but that may be a bit 'far out' for the movies.

If she were to be returne to normal, rather than the fiery disappearance, defeating Magneto in a supreme effort of her power could burn out her excess power (burn out that part of her brain) and return her to normal in a sort of naked, amnesiac confusion. Not easy to work with the character after that though... hard to have her sashay back into the school after all that has happened, life would never be the same...how would X-Men and students be with someone who had destroyed the professor, sided with the enemy. Which is why i think a fiery goodbye from the earthly plane works best.

This leaves Magneto's children (at least Wanda and Pietro, if not Polaris) to plot revenge on the X-Men in a future plot (they could join, or create, a new Brotherhood), and the cure story and the deaths of several leading mutants (including Xavier) is a good trigger for Sinister/Apocalypse/Hellfire to spring into action on protecting/enhancing the gene pool. Bring in Gambit and Bishop as good mutants, Emma Frost as the double agent perhaps, secretly working for the Hellfire Club.

neemer5
04-19-2006, 08:43 PM
They all gather around the dinner table for Thanksgiving dinner.

tonytr1687
04-19-2006, 08:50 PM
Yes, I agree. I think Jean has to a) vanish from the earthly plane in a fiery Phoenix flash b) return to normal power levels. To have her appear to visibly, physically die again doesn't feel right at all. It would have to be a Phoenix firebird sacrifice, as was envisaged at the end of X2 before Sentinels were ruled out... a disappearance in a massive burst of energy with a gigantic firebird effect... This is a little like the original comicbook when Dark Phoenix launched into space with a huge firebird (witnessed by the Hellfire Club!), and leaves the door open for an 'X-Men in space' story (as Brett mentioned) if that's the way the franchise goes.

She could redeem herself - before the fiery flash - only by stopping/defeating Magneto and other Brotherhood members that haven't already been defeated.

Ironically, it was Magneto who twice defeated Phoenix in the comics (once he siphoned off her cosmic lifeforce in a 'magnetic bottle' - a containment system used to control plasma energy.. plasma being the energy of the sun and stars; a second time, he gave her a lethal stoke by channelling the planet's electromagnetic energies into her; both times she was caught offguard).

But for movie purposes, Jean defeating Magneto would work well as a redemption, especially if she has killed Xavier and even Cyclops earlier on. I rather like the idea of her reducing him to infancy (as happened to him in the comics when a mutant he created turned on him)... but that may be a bit 'far out' for the movies.

If she were to be returne to normal, rather than the fiery disappearance, defeating Magneto in a supreme effort of her power could burn out her excess power (burn out that part of her brain) and return her to normal in a sort of naked, amnesiac confusion. Not easy to work with the character after that though... hard to have her sashay back into the school after all that has happened, life would never be the same...how would X-Men and students be with someone who had destroyed the professor, sided with the enemy. Which is why i think a fiery goodbye from the earthly plane works best.

This leaves Magneto's children (at least Wanda and Pietro, if not Polaris) to plot revenge on the X-Men in a future plot (they could join, or create, a new Brotherhood), and the cure story and the deaths of several leading mutants (including Xavier) is a good trigger for Sinister/Apocalypse/Hellfire to spring into action on protecting/enhancing the gene pool. Bring in Gambit and Bishop as good mutants, Emma Frost as the double agent perhaps, secretly working for the Hellfire Club.

"How would X-men and students be with someone who had destroyed the professor, sided with the enemy?"

You just answered your own question as to what should happen to Jean. None of you find this situation at all more interesting and provocative than Jean merely dying again like she did in X2? I mean come on, that would provide great future stories and character development if Jean is forced to live with what she has done, as well as the shake-up in her relationships it would cause. Everyone would be cautious of her. Imagine her and Scott's relationship. Very intriguing stuff if you ask me and the very reason why I want Jean to survive X3 and return to normal.

freshandclean
04-19-2006, 09:27 PM
I think it might be wise to take account how some of these actors will look/age in the next 3-5 years. Famke is a beautiful woman but her age is starting to show. She might not look young enough to play Jean by the next film and I'd rather not recast a major character.

I like the idea of the younger cast "taking over". Rogue/Bobby/Kitty could replace the Scott/Jean/Storm trifecta. Enter Gambit as the "Wolverine". And it'll be a good way to introduce the New Mutants (Cannonball, Rahne, etc.) to take over the roles of the last generation (Rogue, Bobby, Kitty). The key will be to cast Gambit either as an up and comer (Hugh Jackman) or an already bankable star (i.e. Halle Berry) as I feel Gambit will be a big selling point. They also need to keep casting great actors. Real actors. Not just stunt casting (i.e. Jessica Simpson as DAZZLER!!!111).

X-Maniac
04-20-2006, 06:45 AM
"How would X-men and students be with someone who had destroyed the professor, sided with the enemy?"

You just answered your own question as to what should happen to Jean. None of you find this situation at all more interesting and provocative than Jean merely dying again like she did in X2? I mean come on, that would provide great future stories and character development if Jean is forced to live with what she has done, as well as the shake-up in her relationships it would cause. Everyone would be cautious of her. Imagine her and Scott's relationship. Very intriguing stuff if you ask me and the very reason why I want Jean to survive X3 and return to normal.

It's one option to have her alive with the turbulence of the events of X3 rippling through the school's X-men and students... but I don't know if it feels like dragging on the story too much if the repercussions of Jean's actions in X3 form a substantial part of X4.

The other option I didn't mention is to have Wolverine carry out a mercy killing, as he did in the comicbook story when he and Jean were on a spaceship hurtling into the sun.

All of these options work in some way. Each has advantages and disadvantages. I'm sure they have considered it and come up with the best option that suits the storyline.

If Wolverine does kill her, then it does set up his leaving (ready for the events of the spin-off) as he wouldn't be able to live with himself and carry on fighting with the X-Men. His absence in an X4 would open up a space for Gambit.

Cryostar1177
04-20-2006, 07:31 AM
Are they going back on there not being an X4? Last I heard, this was the end of the line, so they could spin Wolvie and Mags into their own movies.

WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 08:24 AM
It's one option to have her alive with the turbulence of the events of X3 rippling through the school's X-men and students... but I don't know if it feels like dragging on the story too much if the repercussions of Jean's actions in X3 form a substantial part of X4.

The other option I didn't mention is to have Wolverine carry out a mercy killing, as he did in the comicbook story when he and Jean were on a spaceship hurtling into the sun.

All of these options work in some way. Each has advantages and disadvantages. I'm sure they have considered it and come up with the best option that suits the storyline.

If Wolverine does kill her, then it does set up his leaving (ready for the events of the spin-off) as he wouldn't be able to live with himself and carry on fighting with the X-Men. His absence in an X4 would open up a space for Gambit.

But the spin-off is a prequel.

X-Maniac
04-20-2006, 10:10 AM
But the spin-off is a prequel.

That was the original thought, yes....

But they may change that. Far better to have present-day Wolverine discovering his past than have the events of the past unfolding at the time they happened. The drama is in Wolverine's discovery of what happened in those 15 lost years, not in just showing it to the audience.