Omigod It Makes Perfect Sense!!!

[Bluefire]

many of us were wondering while pathetic useless characters like arclight and quill and callisto seem to be getting the chance to appear in an xfilm while more deserving characters like polaris or havok have you to make appearance, well the answer is simple....there cannon fodder.

THINK ABOUT IT! this is suppose to be an all out war and what are wars without some casualities? so i believe useless characters that have brought into the x-men film like arclight were only brought in because they knew they would be able to kill them and no other future x=man writer would want to use them.

[CapBeerCino]

They dont need "useless characters" to kill, they are killing a lot of major ones as it seems...

[The Original Bamfer]

Is today the day of useless, random threads? :confused:

[Antrax255]

We have come to the conclusion that they are expendable already.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Callisto isn't a "useless" character.

[NocturnalMadman]

None of them are useless, I'm really excited to see Quill and Arclights powers in action.

Man am I sick of all this "so and so should be in!"

Whats the point in sticking people in for the sake of it? Would you be happy if Havoc and Polaris were in the brotherhood??

[Celestio]

None of them are useless, I'm really excited to see Quill and Arclights powers in action.

Man am I sick of all this "so and so should be in!"

Whats the point in sticking people in for the sake of it? Would you be happy if Havoc and Polaris were in the brotherhood??

Exactly. To introduce Havok they would have to mention him being brothers with Scott, and then that is ANOTHER storyline. People are already complaining that there are too many storylines going on.

[Antrax255]

Quill can go and maybe Archlight but Callisto must live on.

[_BB_]

Exactly. To introduce Havok they would have to mention him being brothers with Scott, and then that is ANOTHER storyline. People are already complaining that there are too many storylines going on.


you could say the same thing about juggernaut and xavier though, there will be no mention of them being related in X3, or mystique and nightcrawler in x2 either

[Electrix]

I think they were brought in because of their powers and they may help the plot at some point. Characters like Avalanche wernt used because you can imagine a final battle with a big earthquake...there wouldnt be a need for one, everyone would be falling over and Alcatraz would be demolished and that would be it.

They can also be introduced and not be fully developed. If they brought in Cannonball or Gambit they would have had to been developed because they are quite important characters. Same with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. There isnt enough time to develop each character and give them the screentime they deserve so they introduce fairly unknown characters with cool powers.

[the a1ant]

Wouldn't be surprised if Callisto makes it out. Arclight is pretty much dead. :p But I agree with Electrix...a lot of these characters were probably brought in becuase of their powers, and how they served the story.

[CapBeerCino]

Is today the day of useless, random threads? :confused:

That's the one!
Happy day of useless random threads everyone! :up:

[Celestio]

you could say the same thing about juggernaut and xavier though, there will be no mention of them being related in X3, or mystique and nightcrawler in x2 either

True. But you know all hell would break loose if Havok and Polaris we're just other members of the Brotherhood.

[CapBeerCino]

Wouldn't be surprised if Callisto makes it out. Arclight is pretty much dead. :p

Im pretty sure she'll survive.
Your avvy is really rubbing salt I'll have you know :o :p

[Antrax255]

A lot of characters that are in the movies after two movies get a chance to develop. Having Havock just needs a flashback to the plane crash not or the cartoon way with not knowing that they are brothers.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Is today the day of useless, random threads? :confused:

This is what happens when FOX take's to long to update the Site :o

[NocturnalMadman]

A lot of characters that are in the movies after two movies get a chance to develop. Having Havock just needs a flashback to the plane crash not or the cartoon way with not knowing that they are brothers.

But why, just for the sake of having "Havoc" in the film, who becomes just random blonde guy who shoots energy beams. Which makes his inclusion kinda pointless.

No, sorry, Quills is gonna ROCK! I'm loving this Brotherhood.

[FieryBalrog]

A lot of characters that are in the movies after two movies get a chance to develop. Having Havock just needs a flashback to the plane crash not or the cartoon way with not knowing that they are brothers.

yea a flashback to a random plane crash I'm sure that wouldnt be confusing at all...

[NocturnalMadman]

yea a flashback to a random plane crash I'm sure that wouldnt be confusing at all...

ahahahaha! :up:

Unfortunately us fans can be a little too passionate about characters at times.

But the first 2 movies not featuring any of my most fave chars in a prominent role (save for Rogue) didnt stop me loving them!

[Bluefire]

Is today the day of useless, random threads? :confused:


jerk.:mad:

[NocturnalMadman]

jerk.:mad:

Well you gotta be careful when writing characters off as "useless and pathetic"...

[JP]

I'm rather excited to see characters like Quills and Archlight. IMO, this is the best Brohood yet. :)

[CapBeerCino]

^ I miss toad...

[Darkie]

^ I miss toad...

oh god yes! toad was awsome! i mean ray park gave the character a good....i forgot the word but i miss toad too

[The Original Bamfer]

jerk.:mad:

:p Get over it :O

[Roma]

jerk.:mad:

Play nice.

[lordofthenerds]

Is today the day of useless, random threads? :confused:
Lol, there's been 4 already. :O

[Antrax255]

Okay Phoneix does not kill Scott but he is in a coma while he is in the coma he has nightmare of the plane crash.

[eXperiment]

I think they were brought in because of their powers and they may help the plot at some point. Characters like Avalanche wernt used because you can imagine a final battle with a big earthquake...there wouldnt be a need for one, everyone would be falling over and Alcatraz would be demolished and that would be it.

They can also be introduced and not be fully developed. If they brought in Cannonball or Gambit they would have had to been developed because they are quite important characters. Same with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. There isnt enough time to develop each character and give them the screentime they deserve so they introduce fairly unknown characters with cool powers.

I agree completely

[Deep Thinkin'!]

you can't have a war without people to fight in it right? they are most likely bringing in all the new people so they can make it seem like a REALLY big war. At least that's what i think.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Actually, I can think of how you could introduce Havok, and not have him as just some random Brotherhood character...

[CapBeerCino]

...yes?

[Twin2]

...yes?

A montage.

[X-Maniac]

I think they were brought in because of their powers and they may help the plot at some point. Characters like Avalanche wernt used because you can imagine a final battle with a big earthquake...there wouldnt be a need for one, everyone would be falling over and Alcatraz would be demolished and that would be it.

They can also be introduced and not be fully developed. If they brought in Cannonball or Gambit they would have had to been developed because they are quite important characters. Same with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. There isnt enough time to develop each character and give them the screentime they deserve so they introduce fairly unknown characters with cool powers.

You are quite right.

There's no harm in people debating who should in or out, and wondering why certain people weren't in or out... but there were obviously good reasons for their decisions.

Quill and Arclight wouldn't be top of my list for X3 characters, certainly not for main Brotherhood members right alongside Magneto... but your reasoning makes sense.

This movie is about several major sets of relationships - Rogue/Iceman/Kitty; Jean's relationships with Cyclops/Xavier/Wolverine; Angel and his father. And also the interactions between Beast and the president and Magneto and Mystique. There just isn't any room to have any more interpersonal conflicts and revelations and deep characterisations going on.

In the next movie I want Storm to find a relationship! Maybe they could introduce Black Panther, or Forge. Terrorists could steal technology from Panther's super-advanced Wakandan city to make some kind of weapon. Or we could get Bishop (with nightmares of the Days of Future Past) and Storm could get involved with him...

[LEX]

They have cool powers, I agree. Quill has an interesting mutation and could impress a lot of people with his power visually. It certainly interested me when I saw him popping his quills in the trailer. And Arclight is like another version of Avalanche, but different. Avalanche will require a lot of money, both visually and physically. It's all about the money.

I agree with Electrix here. If they introduce the characters you want to be in the movie, they'll have to be developed and there's no time for that. People are already complaining about too many storylines enough as it is. This is an all-out war and possibly, the last movie (which I doubt). Of course, we will see all these mutants use their powers aggressively and visually.

Isn't Quill supposed to betray Magneto in the end? Or was that just some false news? Damn, Gambit could've replaced Quill. :down

Anyway, Callisto is definitely not useless. :rolleyes: Storm versus Callisto, anyone? Callisto, possibly leading the Morlocks?

[FieryBalrog]

They have cool powers, I agree. Quill has an interesting mutation and could impress a lot of people with his power visually. It certainly interested me when I saw him popping his quills in the trailer. And Arclight is like another version of Avalanche, but different. Avalanche will require a lot of money, both visually and physically. It's all about the money.

I agree with Electrix here. If they introduce the characters you want to be in the movie, they'll have to be developed and there's no time for that. People are already complaining about too many storylines enough as it is. This is an all-out war and possibly, the last movie (which I doubt). Of course, we will see all these mutants use their powers aggressively and visually.

Isn't Quill supposed to betray Magneto in the end? Or was that just some false news? Damn, Gambit could've replaced Quill. :down

Anyway, Callisto is definitely not useless. :rolleyes: Storm versus Callisto, anyone? Callisto, possibly leading the Morlocks?

why does Rogue look like a man in your avatar, Lex? :confused:

[.TheNerdess.]

I was really hoping that the guy playing quill was supposed to be sunfire, but thats just me.

Anywho i dont really get the argument of not having the space in the movie to delve into gambits charecter, they dont have to go that deep this time around, im sure there not going to get all up in psylockes bussiness, or even mention her brothers, hell, i dont even think they made her british. And they have never once mentioned storm being from africa! You dont have to go deep into the charecter for a good performance to come about, you just have to write some cool stuff for them to do really. But yeah i guess this is just what everyone else is getting at, i just wanted to say my piece.

[LEX]

why does Rogue look like a man in your avatar, Lex? :confused:
B/c the dog killed the cat.

I dunno.

[Deep Thinkin'!]

B/c the dog killed the cat.

I dunno.

lol i saw that. funny funny..... i think this topic is going dead, or I'm just not paying attention.

[LEX]

It's okay, the avatar's changed.

[lordofthenerds]

It's okay, the avatar's changed.cool avatar. :up: Rogue looked like she had a five o'clock shadow in the other one. :p

[LEX]

But I liked the bright-red lips. :(:D

[JustABill]

The last thing X-Men needs is Black Panther marching into take away Storm in the movies too. :o.

[BMM]

The last thing X-Men needs is Black Panther marching into take away Storm in the movies too. :o.

Agreed.

[Super Flight]

the title of this thread doesn't go along with your idea :o

[MrSelfDestruct]

I'll be happy as long as they kill off Rogue.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'll be happy as long as they kill off Rogue.


....... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: .......

[Darkie]

I'll be happy as long as they kill off Rogue.

why?? she is awsome :rolleyes:

[LEX]

I'll be happy as long as they kill off Rogue.
What, reason?

[L0ngsh0t]

many of us were wondering while pathetic useless characters like arclight and quill and callisto seem to be getting the chance to appear in an xfilm while more deserving characters like polaris or havok have you to make appearance, well the answer is simple....there cannon fodder.

THINK ABOUT IT! this is suppose to be an all out war and what are wars without some casualities? so i believe useless characters that have brought into the x-men film like arclight were only brought in because they knew they would be able to kill them and no other future x=man writer would want to use them.


i think that is a reason the Morlocks are going to be introduced, to kill a tone of useless mutants

[berzerko89]

many of us were wondering while pathetic useless characters like arclight and quill and callisto seem to be getting the chance to appear in an xfilm while more deserving characters like polaris or havok have you to make appearance, well the answer is simple....there cannon fodder.

THINK ABOUT IT! this is suppose to be an all out war and what are wars without some casualities? so i believe useless characters that have brought into the x-men film like arclight were only brought in because they knew they would be able to kill them and no other future x=man writer would want to use them.

no actually the writers said that theres a lot of x-men characters out there they are just looking for mutants w/ powers which fit in the movie and will fit the budget. i think they are saving those, the popular ones, for the future... spin-offs, sequels or even for prequels.

[neemer5]

Wow, that was a strange post. I personally like that they're mixing it up, and have been from the beginning. It adds diversity and doesn't overcomplicate things. That's probably why they didn't add Gambit.
It would be annoying to have all these "more deserving" characters sharing screentime.

[stormjedi]

what power would you like rouge to steal ? personnaly, i love the idea of rouge steal the power from multiple man, an then each one of rouge steal the other mutans power. is that possible ?

[DarknessOfDeath]

what power would you like rouge to steal ? personnaly, i love the idea of rouge steal the power from multiple man, an then each one of rouge steal the other mutans power. is that possible ?

lol :up:

and Welcome to the Hype! :D

[chaseter]

No character is useless, even Toad, because they all serve some purpose in the movie. And I like Storm Jedi's idea. I want to see Rogue touch Multiple Man, gain his power, and her 20 clones all get their own power and make a southern belle army.

[lordofthenerds]

No character is useless, even Toad, because they all serve some purpose in the movie. And I like Storm Jedi's idea. I want to see Rogue touch Multiple Man, gain his power, and her 20 clones all get their own power and make a southern belle army.
And then what? Wait to get slaughtered? :p

[chaseter]

And then what? Wait to get slaughtered? :p
Yea...and how has this thread stayed open?

[Deep Thinkin'!]

what power would you like rouge to steal ? personnaly, i love the idea of rouge steal the power from multiple man, an then each one of rouge steal the other mutans power. is that possible ?

yeah, i think so. I saw the cartoon and I'm pretty sure I saw her steal one power, then steal another and then she used them both. Plus, in X1, she was telling Logan that she could still feel the guy she kissed AND logan inside her hand. So she can have more than one person's power or memory I think.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

yeah, i think so. I saw the cartoon and I'm pretty sure I saw her steal one power, then steal another and then she used them both. Plus, in X1, she was telling Logan that she could still feel the guy she kissed AND logan inside her hand. So she can have more than one person's power or memory I think.

He's talking about her clones stealing other people's powers.

Now that, is actually a scary thought, lol

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I was really hoping that the guy playing quill was supposed to be sunfire, but thats just me.

Anywho i dont really get the argument of not having the space in the movie to delve into gambits charecter, they dont have to go that deep this time around, im sure there not going to get all up in psylockes bussiness, or even mention her brothers, hell, i dont even think they made her british. And they have never once mentioned storm being from africa! You dont have to go deep into the charecter for a good performance to come about, you just have to write some cool stuff for them to do really. But yeah i guess this is just what everyone else is getting at, i just wanted to say my piece.

:up:

I agree with you.

As much as I love Gambit, he's being overhyped by the creative team (and I know it's just an excuse to not include him)

Gambit never has been a leading role. He's supposed to be a supporting role. His whole backstory doesn't need to be developed for me to be satisfied.

Unfortunatley, when it comes to Gambit, I never will be, because they didn't even try :(

They decided it was better to lie to us and break their promises than to at least make an attempt and let us fans decide for ourselves if we were satisfied with the portrayal or not :(

[Karea07]

Callisto will not die! :up:

[berzerko89]

this coming war will end all wars... bwahahahaha! ;)

[neemer5]

:up:

I agree with you.

As much as I love Gambit, he's being overhyped by the creative team (and I know it's just an excuse to not include him)

Gambit never has been a leading role. He's supposed to be a supporting role. His whole backstory doesn't need to be developed for me to be satisfied.

Unfortunatley, when it comes to Gambit, I never will be, because they didn't even try :(

They decided it was better to lie to us and break their promises than to at least make an attempt and let us fans decide for ourselves if we were satisfied with the portrayal or not :(
Actually they did try. A couple of higher profile young actors screen tested for the part, but the writers just couldn't fit the chracter in. That's a pretty committed step I think.

[sparky_parker]

who were the high profile young guys?

[neemer5]

who were the high profile young guys?

I remember one of them was the lead in "She's the Man." I can't remember the other. I just remember not liking them making Gambit so young. I really didn't want to see any Tiger Beat casting for him.

[sparky_parker]

cool... cheers neemer5!