Whatever happened to....?

[Silverstein]

What ever happened to that Frank Miller Batman comic he was doing? It was called like Batman and Robin: all stars or something...And the last issue I've seen of it was Black Canary beating the crap out of a bunch of people are a bar...And then I never saw the comic again.

Was it discontinued? Or do you think my comic store just didn't get the next issues or are they coming out later...or what?

It was a good reas, and I think it portrayed both Robin, Batman and all the characters splendidly. And the artwork was awesome.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's still going, it's just late like half the comics being published these days.

I sincerely hope your last paragraph is a joke.

[The Leaguer]

It was a good reas, and I think it portrayed both Robin, Batman and all the characters splendidly. And the artwork was awesome.
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

[Assassin]

he's trying to be a smart ass, he bashes batman every chance he can

[Silverstein]

Actually no. I usually don't like Batman as much as some other heroes, true, but this made me want to read more. Because I actually cared what was going to happen next. There was an actual story, not just "oh let me beat everyone because I can".....And anyway I don't bash Batman I just don't agree with the prep time idea. But let's not argue that here. We can always just bring up the prep time thread for that.

[yenaled]

There was an actual story.


HAHAHA!

[Silverstein]

Like when I tried to read Batman a few years back, I kept seeing the same villains over and over. Batman has a rogue's gallery as big as Spider-man's...yet you always see The Joker or Penguin or catwoman. and then he beats these people up or puts them in jail and they come back and do the same crimes. He actually doesn't even put them in jail, because then they'd probablly stay in there. He puts them in Arkham.

If he snapped Joker's neck he'd be saving hundreds of innocent lives. He is his own worse villain in that case.


But with this series, Dick Grayson (who I always liked anyway) is cool even as a kid again. Black canary had a nice edge and Batman was dark and stuff but he wasn't end all and be all. On several pages he was even questioning himself. Which shows he's human. That's what I want.


Assassin, you know that I'm not a Batman hater, because I've said many times that I'm familiar with the character, and actually even like him in lots of ways. I've read the comics and (my favorite besides this was the holiday killer graphic novel...Don't remember what it was called...probablly The Long Halloween or something like that).......

I don't like the idea of him being able to win every fight against anyone. No matter what. I don't think anyone should be like that, not Superman, not Spider-man not Naruto not anyone. Any character that can not fail really has no reason for you to watch or feel suspense, because deep down you know they're going to win. At least Spider-man gets knocked through walls and Superman bleeds...

[trustyside-kick]

I think the next All-Star Batman and Robin is not coming back til May because it got pushed back again.

[Silverstein]

HAHAHA!

Okay there was. It was building up to a well written story line, I figure they were just taking their time. I'd rather see new parts of a continuing storyline each issue than see Batman plotting, beating people up, and then taking them to Arkham each issue.

Instead of laughing why not explain how there wasn't?

[Silverstein]

It's still going, it's just late like half the comics being published these days.

I sincerely hope your last paragraph is a joke.

You probablly know more about batman than me. So I guess it's possible that he isn't captured to a t in this story. But it was engaging, and fun. The artwork was also nice....Like it was a kind of knew way with old characters. So why joke?

[Nightwing]

What ever happened to that Frank Miller Batman comic he was doing? It was called like Batman and Robin: all stars or something...And the last issue I've seen of it was Black Canary beating the crap out of a bunch of people are a bar...And then I never saw the comic again.

Was it discontinued? Or do you think my comic store just didn't get the next issues or are they coming out later...or what?

It was a good reas, and I think it portrayed both Robin, Batman and all the characters splendidly. And the artwork was awesome.

That's because it's the latest issue of the series right now, issue #4 has been pushed back again. The artwork is the only thing keeping the book alive.

[Bullseye]

The book is so late that it seems like it is cancelled.

[Silverstein]

I guess it will be canceled then. Most of you guys seem like you don't like it...And Batman said that only the art is keeping fans intrested. With Marvel's Civil War, and DC's Infinite Crisis, 52, and OYL, I don't know if art alone can save it.

OH well....IC,52, and OYL are awesome anyway. I just can't wait till Ion and Shadowpact come out. (Shadowpact is my favorite thing to come out of IC. Finally a team that I started with instead of seeing a group that's been together since before I was born like teen titans or JL/JSA)

[TheCorpulent1]

It won't be canceled. Miller and Lee's names pretty much guarantee that. If issues come out weekly or yearly, it doesn't matter. People will see those names and Batman's name and buy it. Why? Because the vast majority of the comic-reading public are mindless slaves to labels.

[Bullseye]

You are right. I will still buy it.

[TheCorpulent1]

See? Mindless slaves. ;)

[Silverstein]

lol

[ToddIsDead]

What happened to Miller? I used to think that he was a good writer. All of his Daredevil stuff, Sin City, Ronin, 300, and Batman Year one and DKR were great. And then you have stuff like DKSA, and Batman/Spawn, and All Star. It's like he's been writing every thing while he's stone drunk.

[Darthphere]

What happened to Miller? I used to think that he was a good writer. All of his Daredevil stuff, Sin City, Ronin, 300, and Batman Year one and DKR were great. And then you have stuff like DKSA, and Batman/Spawn, and All Star. It's like he's been writing every thing while he's stone drunk.


He probably is. I just think hes a really big hypocrite.

[Silverstein]

Why? What did he say/do?

[Assassin]

I loved the first 2 issues, the black canary one confused me, but i still like it, its way better than A.S.S

[Silverstein]

What's A.S.S.?

[Anubis]

All Star Superman.

[Nightwing]

The book is so late that it seems like it is cancelled.

It isn't, though with the direction it's going I wouldn't be surprise if it was. So far, they're only on the solict for issue #5.

[Silverstein]

Yeah I'd have to agree. I saw the cover of A.S.S. and tried to read it, but it was as engaging. Rather dull.

[Anubis]

Well, some books aren't for everybody. If you like Allstar Batman, and Jim Lees art, then ASS probally isn't for you. Personally I like Allstar Superman. Love Quietlys art. I tend to perfur substance over style.

[TheCorpulent1]

You just had to get all snooty at the end, didn't you? Couldn't just say you like Quitely more than Lee, you had to throw in the little "Lee is just flashy crap while Quitely is totally better and stuff" comment there. You're a small, small man. :o

[Assassin]

while lee isnt the best, quitley isnt even good


you kno..IMO of course

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and your opinion on art went out the window as soon as you made that Turner eyesore your avatar. You should keep it, though. It's like a flashing neon sign saying, "My opinions on art suck!" :)

[The Leaguer]

What's A.S.S.?
You'll find out when you're older, son.

[Assassin]

Yeah, and your opinion on art went out the window as soon as you made that Turner eyesore your avatar. You should keep it, though. It's like a flashing neon sign saying, "My opinions on art suck!" :)

read the dc soltcs page

Turner's covers are the best, i like quitleys too, but both of them should stay away from ongoings

[TheCorpulent1]

What's a "soltc"? Something to do with the sun? That used to be called Sol. :confused:

[Assassin]

yea, but thats way before your time kid, back even before u were swimming in your fathers nut sack, you wouldnt remember.

:D you know i cant spell, dont be a smart ass

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't help it. You bring out the best in me. :)

[jaydawg]

Yeah, and your opinion on art went out the window as soon as you made that Turner eyesore your avatar. You should keep it, though. It's like a flashing neon sign saying, "My opinions on art suck!" :)
Honestly. I'm one of the more Turner-friendly posters on this board, but that is easily the single worst cover he has ever done. Why the hell did he make it at that angle? Better yet, why didn't DC reject that cover?

[Assassin]

its like pulp fiction when they open the trunk..i like it :(

[Assassin]

it beats the storm cover he did

[Anubis]

You just had to get all snooty at the end, didn't you? Couldn't just say you like Quitely more than Lee, you had to throw in the little "Lee is just flashy crap while Quitely is totally better and stuff" comment there. You're a small, small man. :o

I am the way that God made me. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, at least Quitely really is better than Lee. You've got that going for you. ;)

[Silverstein]

Wait I'm lost....I like Assassin's avatar. I was actually wondering what comic that's from.

But I can't discuss DC artist, I was more of a marvel reader. So I like people like the dodsons.

[TheCorpulent1]

Turner's drawing covers for Marvel, too. Assassin's avatar is from the upcoming Justice League of America comic. It's the cover to #0.

I like Terry Dodson in small doses. His art has a weird plastic-ness to it. Like it's a glossy, kitschy version of decent art. His upcoming Action Comics cover just plain sucks, though:

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5435_400x600.jpg

[Anubis]

You do realize that pretty much all the artists work both companies? hell, the Dodsons are doing Superman covers. Not very well, but they're doing them.

[Silverstein]

Well I figured that the companies had dual artists (like people that do work on both sides) but then had in house people.

About the Dodson thing...Yeah I know what you mean. A lot of times his characters look like action figures. And in The Evil that men do....(I think the ones with nightcrawler and around there), the inside drawings were kind of lame compared to the covers he does. Some people can make both art look outstanding.

[TheCorpulent1]

Some of them have exclusive contracts. That's really the only thing that keeps any artist from working for both companies simultaneously. The Kuberts were generally regarded as Marvel-exclusive, since they tended to stick with Marvel, but they recently jumped ship and signed exclusive contracts with DC.

[Anubis]

One of which will be working with Grant Morrison on Batman later this year.

[TheCorpulent1]

One of whom. I wonder what Adam'll be doing...

[Anubis]

........I swear to God corp, I can get you, and I'll make it look like an accident.

[TheCorpulent1]

"Corp," with a capital "C," and there should be a comma before it. Direct address and all.

And bring it on. :o

[The Leaguer]

........I swear to God corp, I can get you, and I'll make it look like an accident.
F*** that, you should do it in public and be proud of it.

[Assassin]

Lee cant sign a marvel eclu right? since he's the wildstorm editor?

[TheCorpulent1]

He probably could. The terms of the contract would just have to say he would only pencil for Marvel exclusively. That'd leave him free to be the CEO of Wildstorm. Which he is, by the way. Not just an editor.

[Assassin]

even more power

[TheCorpulent1]

I doubt he'd sign with Marvel. He seems happy at DC, and it's probably easier for him given that Wildstorm is an imprint of DC now.

[Assassin]

did he own wildstorm back in the day?

[Silverstein]

DC...Marvel...I wonder if all comic book companies do better with graphic novels. Vertigo has a lot, and DC has the batman ones that are always selling out. Marvel has USM and UXM and even other popular novels out.

[Anubis]

Well, it's definitely become a huge part of the industry as of late. Even saving some books from being canned due to the sales of the trades. Runaways and SHe-Hulk from Marvel are perfect examples.

[batnkevlar]

Some series are MEANT to be read as arcs, as tpbs, like The Ultimates

[Anubis]

I find that most Vertigo books are better read in trade. But that's just my opinion.