View Full Version : What villan do you think and hope will headline spider-man 4?
The Venomator
04-19-2006, 01:47 PM
I think that it all depends on what happens in 3, but i'd like to see venom and carnage in the next film. Although the certificate would go up because of the violence that would sure to be involved but it could have the ultimate acton scenes. Please share your most valued opinions.
3dman27
04-19-2006, 01:51 PM
to quote the gentleman inquestion
"make way for the SCORPION"
jimmylace
04-19-2006, 02:01 PM
pete posthelwaite? as the vulture.....
Spider-Girl™
04-19-2006, 02:04 PM
I hope Norman Osborne comes back with another villain. Just sorta Norman pulling the strings as Electro/Lizard or whoever takes down spider-man, but I am gonna wait and see Spider-man 3 before passing judgement on Number 4's baddies.
TheCardPlayer
04-19-2006, 02:59 PM
If Venom isn't in 3, then Venom. Otherwise I want Mysterio.
faceplant
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
are we even sure there will be a 4?
Venomosity
04-19-2006, 07:21 PM
There better be a four. I'd have Lizard.
Spencer9
04-19-2006, 09:38 PM
Lizard and Scorpion
Silver Sable
04-19-2006, 10:40 PM
Lizard and Electro
TwilightPro101
04-19-2006, 10:53 PM
Venom. If not Venom. Scorpion or Lizard.
Spencer9
04-23-2006, 05:55 PM
Or Both
DroolingforGwen
04-25-2006, 07:02 PM
Lizard... Kraven or Scorpion...
The Villain
04-26-2006, 05:41 AM
Mysterio, Scorpion or Lizard
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The Kid
04-26-2006, 06:06 AM
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giggs11uk
04-26-2006, 12:07 PM
lizard and kraven
3dman27
04-26-2006, 02:09 PM
sounds good to me
ven-numb
04-27-2006, 12:29 PM
This may be beyond 4 but I really want to see it...
Dr. connors becomes The Lizard... super big game hunter Kraven gets wind of this and comes into town to hunt down and kill Lizard... of course Spidey does not want his friend and mentor killed so he needs to rope in the Lizard and keep Kravan at bay... mayhem ensues.
Arcturus
04-27-2006, 07:44 PM
SM-3....Venom...(If Cliffhanger) SM-4....Venom?
If not;
Then I think we should see the Lizard and/or Electro, or even the Scorpion.
The Lizard
04-28-2006, 11:01 AM
I still say Lizard, but after Otto Octavius getting re-invented in Curt Connors' image in SM2 and the appearance of monster villain Venom in SM3, I don't see it happening. :(
gamemiester
05-06-2006, 07:38 PM
If Venom aint in 3 but is built up then he should be the main villain in 4 with lizard.
If Venom is in 3 then Lizard and Electro
Dcknight
05-07-2006, 12:35 AM
if it's all the same crew and cast, so lizard if not, i don't care!
webslinger81
05-07-2006, 01:13 AM
Gotta go with The Lizard or The Vulture for number 4.
And there better be a 4!!!
Cyclops
05-07-2006, 03:16 AM
In a perfect world, Venom would be the cliffhanger to Spider-Man 3 and headline Spider-Man 4.
Buuuut if that's not the case, I'd like to see Spidey have to juggle protecting innocents from the Lizard and protecting the Lizard from Kraven the Hunter.
3dman27
05-07-2006, 06:49 AM
scorpion
JTIZZLEVILLE
05-09-2006, 12:24 PM
I'm HOPING for a Venom cliffhanger and he as the main villian in 4.
If not, then I say Electro.
CrypticOne
05-19-2006, 01:21 PM
Venom, because they say he won't show until the end of SM3, so the villian for SM4 should be Venom. It'll more right.
DroolingforGwen
05-19-2006, 01:51 PM
Nope... 5 seconds of Venom before they kill him off...
Robotchicken
05-19-2006, 02:22 PM
Venom, if not venom then lizard
but mysterio,scorpion,Rino and black cat will NEVER be in a spiderman movie, 1 because they were throw aways in the game and 2 because they suck :)
CrypticOne
05-19-2006, 03:17 PM
Venom, if not venom then lizard
but mysterio,scorpion,Rino and black cat will NEVER be in a spiderman movie, 1 because they were throw aways in the game and 2 because they suck :)
Agreed!!!
Sir Revolver
05-20-2006, 06:19 AM
i'm seriously hoping for the lizard sometime down the line. and hopefully, its the monstrous, incredibly huge and bulking lizard.
CrypticOne
05-20-2006, 12:08 PM
i'm seriously hoping for the lizard sometime down the line. and hopefully, its the monstrous, incredibly huge and bulking lizard.
I hope so too...
Kraven
05-20-2006, 01:01 PM
Assuming Venom is in the third movie, then I am really hoping for Lizard.
spidey207
05-20-2006, 03:04 PM
I love Lizard(not as much as Venom though) but I hope they hold off on him till SM-5. Give him that much more time to develpo as a character and grow close to Peter so when it finally does happen, it tears Peter and everybody in the audience up. Here how I hope it goes:
SM-3: Sandman & GG2 w/ cliffhanger to Venom
SM-4: Venom
SM-5: Lizard, maybe with additional side-villian like Electro but maybe not
SM-6: Sinister 6- Dr. Octopus, Electro, Vulture, Scorpion, Chamelion(maybe) and Sandman(depending on his fate in SM-3) . I know it's alot to ask but it would be the last movie so go all out. I'm not 100% sure on the exact roster for the S6 yet, but it needs to include Dr Octopus, Electro, Vulture, and Scorpion. The other 2 are dependent on how the other movies unfold. Sorry, no Carnage. I think he's a cheap ripp-off of Venom and would be way to similiar to Venom for the audience to accept. I really hope it unfolds somewhat close to this, I can only hope.
ProfeZZor X
05-20-2006, 04:03 PM
There's only one man that can do this kind of stuff.... Mr. Bench.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D41NDqMX5Y&search=Avatar%3A%20episode%20
Let it be him....
TheFlyinRussian
05-20-2006, 09:41 PM
SM3:Spidey gets the black suit,beats up on Sandman.All the while Harry's going further into madness and Eddie Brock loses his job or something like that that would piss him off and blames Spider-man.In the end Harry finally snaps,but bides his time to be GG2 'til SM4,Brock finds the symbiote and waits too.
SM4:Harry is nuts and attacking Pete along with Venom so the audience thinks it's not seeing the same villain again.Spidey can't beat Venom on his own,Harry comes to his senses and saves Peter by killing Venom but dies in the process or dies shortly after.In the meantime Curt Connors is built up as a character.
SM5:The Lizard,maybe a supporting villain.Forget Rhino,Mysterio,Shocker,Black Cat,Hydro-man,Man-wolf.Probably Electro.
SM6:Carnage,somehow.
I know they're signed on for at least SM6.
CaptainStacy
05-21-2006, 12:58 AM
Well, if he's not used a great deal in SM3, it should be Venom...
Otherwise, Electro or Lizard...
red_zero64
05-21-2006, 09:58 AM
I want to see Elctro & Venom!!!but its much better if Lizard and Venom!!!
ProfeZZor X
05-21-2006, 01:31 PM
Spidey has already battled the "intelligent" villains already. It's time to see what he can do against "muscle". My vote is for the Rhino, maybe even throw in The Molten Man.
spiderpride
05-21-2006, 05:49 PM
i hope lizard and venom it would be cool to see how spidey is going to handle 2 enemie,s at ones
Statement
05-29-2006, 09:19 AM
because nobody knows whats going to happen in spidey 3 these are the villains i want to see in the future films in order. and this is if venom in only a cliffhanger for spidey 3.
We have had
Green Goblin
Dock Ock
Sandman
now it should be
SM4
Venom
Lizard
SM5
Electro
Venom
SM6
Scorpian
Venom
Carnidge
i think it would be cool to have venom appear in each film after his 1st appearence the way magneto is in the x men films. Mainly because the relationship vetween peter and eddie i dont think its something u could just pull off in 1 film. aslo a lot of people like the idea of mysterio. dnt get me wrong its a cool character but his powers wouldnt really provide much kick ass spidey entertainment.
halfapple
05-29-2006, 10:23 AM
Kraven the Hunter & Chameleon
Venom still out on the loose causing major havoc.
shigsy2003
06-03-2006, 11:04 PM
Hi
Venom should be the only villian in number in my opinion but..... They could go the way of the awesome 90's toon and have Brock messing with Peter's head, and threatening his family etc. Pete then decides to take Brock down only, Brock likes toying with Pete so its more a case of Pete getting pulverised until Pete can think of an area lound enough to get the symbiote of Brock (should that still be the way), this then lends itself to JJ's son and the rocket. Maybe I am trying to play it out similar to the third symbiote based ep in season one but I think it would be cool. A surprise re-emergence of the Lizard would be nice as well.
BloodyWolverine
06-04-2006, 09:23 AM
There is only 4 more villains i think are dangerous enough to have there major crack at spiderman as athe main baddie. I think they should go movie wise like this.
Spidy 4 Lizard with Venom returning.
Spidy 5 Carnage.
Spidy 6 Mysterio, The Scorpion, Rhino, Doc Ock, The Volture, and The Shocker. Better known as the Sinister Six.
Spencer9
06-04-2006, 10:22 AM
I dont know why everyone thinks Venom will be a cliffhanger. This movie will tie up all ends. It will be like a trilogy. Venom will fight and die. Sandman might die. And Harry is definately gone. So for Spiderman 4 - Lizard
shigsy2003
06-04-2006, 11:38 AM
I dont know why everyone thinks Venom will be a cliffhanger. This movie will tie up all ends. It will be like a trilogy. Venom will fight and die. Sandman might die. And Harry is definately gone. So for Spiderman 4 - Lizard
Hi
So you think we are going to get Venom for 10 minutes and thats it. Hmmmm he would have to be a brave man to do that.
turbotwotone
06-05-2006, 02:59 AM
Well I'm not too sure about having 4 villians in SM3...I'm sure that by that 2-3 of them will either be quick cameos or appear at the end of the film, much like the speculation has been going on Venom. Having more than one central villan would clutter up the plot, and would turn in to a battle for screen time. After all...we all can remember Batman & Robin...ouch!! enough said. With that said I think that the central villan for SM3 will be Sandman...I think Goblin2 will likely either appear towards the end of SM3 or very sparsley in between parts of the 3rd movie. It would be best to really save his main performance untill SM4 or 5...dragging out the fact that peter wouldn't find out it was Harry until after they had been battling each other...much like their relationship from SM1 & 2. I honestly don't think Venom will be in SM3 much at all, and if he is-I agree he will likely be some sort of cliffhanger at the end of SM3. Venom is easily a stand alone villan and rightfully deserves his own movie, which is why I think they will likely hold off on using him until SM4. Besides Venom would likely need to be mostly CG, being as how his suit is living and can take many different shapes...and mostly for the action sequences, much like spiderman is now. Holding off on Venom until SM4 would give them that much more time to really nail doing fully CG characters and for technology to come that further around. AS for the rest of the possible characters...the only blank left is Dr. Conners set up from SM2. I think that it needs to be much later before he comes into the fold. Anyway, here are the rest of my predictions and/or wishlist for the future SM movies.
SM3: Sandman(main), w/ possible Goblin2 appearance, and Kat. She would serve as another possible love interest for Peter and really cause some drama between her and MJ.
SM4: Venom (main) Nothing more needs to be said...Venom is quite possibly one of the most classic SM villans and also on of SM's most formidable. This is Venoms show alone. Also possible Goblin 2 appearance.
SM5: Goblin2(main) This is where the battle between Harry and Peter comes to a climax. Peter learns who the goblin really is and must confront his best friend. Also-Possible Lizard appearance...this is where they could bring Connors in.
SM6: Either Lizard(main) and/or Mysterio(main). I think either one of these villans would make for an exciting 6th installment. Although I think Mysterio would be more menasing, I think it would also be propper to bring in Connors as the main villan as it was established in the 2nd film.
--Anything after 6--
SM7: Carnage(main) I don't know if Carnage is a classic enough character to ever warrant his own movie (being as how he is pretty new) I still wouldn't mind having him in a film. I think that it would be at this point he could be brought in.
SM8: Shocker(main, Rhino(side). I think shocker could be cool enough as a main charcter although rhino would have to be a side character. He's too goofy of a character to have his own film. I also wouldn't mind seeing him in possibly SM3 or 4 as a side character.
SM9: Kraven the hunter...or anyone else that is left at this point andd hasn't gotten their debut in one of the SM films. Being as how i'm 23 now...I would likely be in my 40's before they could ever get to a 9th movie.
Anyway...I can't wait for Spider-Man 3 in 2007...I think it has the potential to be the best entry in the SM series so far. I have very high expectations for part 3 and I know that sam saimi won't dissapoint. If there are more movies to be made after SM3...I hope they get back Raimi as well as the whole cast to do them, including Toby Maguire, which would be a feet in itself.
TheFlyinRussian
06-05-2006, 01:24 PM
Well I'm not too sure about having 4 villians in SM3...I'm sure that by that 2-3 of them will either be quick cameos or appear at the end of the film, much like the speculation has been going on Venom. Having more than one central villan would clutter up the plot, and would turn in to a battle for screen time. After all...we all can remember Batman & Robin...ouch!! enough said. With that said I think that the central villan for SM3 will be Sandman...I think Goblin2 will likely either appear towards the end of SM3 or very sparsley in between parts of the 3rd movie. It would be best to really save his main performance untill SM4 or 5...dragging out the fact that peter wouldn't find out it was Harry until after they had been battling each other...much like their relationship from SM1 & 2. I honestly don't think Venom will be in SM3 much at all, and if he is-I agree he will likely be some sort of cliffhanger at the end of SM3. Venom is easily a stand alone villan and rightfully deserves his own movie, which is why I think they will likely hold off on using him until SM4. Besides Venom would likely need to be mostly CG, being as how his suit is living and can take many different shapes...and mostly for the action sequences, much like spiderman is now. Holding off on Venom until SM4 would give them that much more time to really nail doing fully CG characters and for technology to come that further around. AS for the rest of the possible characters...the only blank left is Dr. Conners set up from SM2. I think that it needs to be much later before he comes into the fold. Anyway, here are the rest of my predictions and/or wishlist for the future SM movies.
SM3: Sandman(main), w/ possible Goblin2 appearance, and Kat. She would serve as another possible love interest for Peter and really cause some drama between her and MJ.
SM4: Venom (main) Nothing more needs to be said...Venom is quite possibly one of the most classic SM villans and also on of SM's most formidable. This is Venoms show alone. Also possible Goblin 2 appearance.
SM5: Goblin2(main) This is where the battle between Harry and Peter comes to a climax. Peter learns who the goblin really is and must confront his best friend. Also-Possible Lizard appearance...this is where they could bring Connors in.
SM6: Either Lizard(main) and/or Mysterio(main). I think either one of these villans would make for an exciting 6th installment. Although I think Mysterio would be more menasing, I think it would also be propper to bring in Connors as the main villan as it was established in the 2nd film.
--Anything after 6--
SM7: Carnage(main) I don't know if Carnage is a classic enough character to ever warrant his own movie (being as how he is pretty new) I still wouldn't mind having him in a film. I think that it would be at this point he could be brought in.
SM8: Shocker(main, Rhino(side). I think shocker could be cool enough as a main charcter although rhino would have to be a side character. He's too goofy of a character to have his own film. I also wouldn't mind seeing him in possibly SM3 or 4 as a side character.
SM9: Kraven the hunter...or anyone else that is left at this point andd hasn't gotten their debut in one of the SM films. Being as how i'm 23 now...I would likely be in my 40's before they could ever get to a 9th movie.
Anyway...I can't wait for Spider-Man 3 in 2007...I think it has the potential to be the best entry in the SM series so far. I have very high expectations for part 3 and I know that sam saimi won't dissapoint. If there are more movies to be made after SM3...I hope they get back Raimi as well as the whole cast to do them, including Toby Maguire, which would be a feet in itself.
This was probably one of the smartest posts I've seen about spidey 3 villains in a while.I would've had Electro over Shocker though.
turbotwotone
06-05-2006, 04:26 PM
This was probably one of the smartest posts I've seen about spidey 3 villains in a while.I would've had Electro over Shocker though.
Thanks, thats a good point. I forgot to include electro.
The Venomator
06-10-2006, 01:38 PM
If theres a Fourth villan, i think it'll be spideys first major enilation in the Symbiote suit, So i think it should be someone not as threatening such as shocker, say hes robbing a bank, spidey sees him, messes with him a bit, totally destroys him, because shockers never gonna get a feature film, and the possibility of electro could, that's whgo i would chose anyhow
The Venomator
06-10-2006, 01:39 PM
But... with me been a huge Symbiote fan, I think they should get a feature film, You know VENOM, CARNAGE,TOXIN, it would be nice to see, but it'll probably never come true:(
spiderguy412
06-17-2006, 11:48 AM
Like other people I am hoping that Eddie Brock becoming venom is the cliff hanger of SM3 and SM4 its venom and Lizard
GoldGoblin
06-20-2006, 05:24 AM
Lizard,Kraven,Rhino,Scorpion
The Villain
06-20-2006, 08:01 AM
When Spiderman 4 comes around hopefully we will see one of these four classic badguys.
The Lizard, Mysterio, Scorpion or maybe Kraven.
I would like to see Chameleon since he was the first supervillain to appear back in Amazing Spiderman 1 and this could be the way to bring in Kraven aswell.
Those who want Venom should maybe hope for a final 10 to 15 min battle at the start so us classic badguy supporters can see one of the above.
The Lizard and Mysterio are who I'm rooting for but I'll be fine with whoever they pick.
:marv:
edgar_c
06-21-2006, 09:25 PM
has any one thought about this if there is a fourth one why not the sinister syndicate.
CrypticOne
06-22-2006, 08:45 PM
I think that it all depends on what happens in 3, but i'd like to see venom and carnage in the next film. Although the certificate would go up because of the violence that would sure to be involved but it could have the ultimate acton scenes. Please share your most valued opinions.
Well if the cliffhanger villain at the end of SM3 is Venom, then I guess we'd have to see Venom in the forth movie.
TheFlyinRussian
06-22-2006, 09:40 PM
As cool as a Sinister Six movie would be,visually,it's really unlikely to happen and the story would suck."Hey,you other five bad guys,let's team up." "Okay."
turbotwotone
06-23-2006, 06:03 AM
As cool as a Sinister Six movie would be,visually,it's really unlikely to happen and the story would suck."Hey,you other five bad guys,let's team up." "Okay."
I agree.
Venom 1988
06-25-2006, 10:09 PM
Well for SM4: as many have said already Lizard and Kraven, with Chameleon actin in the shadows. Maybe somewhat loosly based off of Kraven's Last Hunt. Though I dont know how well that would really translate, seeing as Kraven hasent fought against Spidey before in the movies(besides the movie game on x-box if thats in continuity), so he doesnt really have a vendetta I guess.
boydston_14
06-26-2006, 01:02 AM
I think Kingpin (played by Micheal Clark Duncan) should be a villain in Spider-Man 4. *Prepares for insults*
Clobberin' Time
06-26-2006, 08:29 AM
It'll be Venom and Lizard.
Shadow_Knight
06-26-2006, 08:33 AM
Venom which is going to happen.
Venom 1988
06-26-2006, 12:06 PM
I think Kingpin (played by Micheal Clark Duncan) should be a villain in Spider-Man 4. *Prepares for insults*
Cant happen because Fox has the rights to Kingpin.
weezerspider
06-26-2006, 01:00 PM
venom and Lizard. Carnage as a cliffhanger in 4.
Mal'Akai
06-26-2006, 04:39 PM
lizard and kraven
I like your idea. Have Kraven hunting Lizard and Spidey tries to help but ends up fighting Lizard.
turbotwotone
07-04-2006, 03:09 AM
I like your idea. Have Kraven hunting Lizard and Spidey tries to help but ends up fighting Lizard.
I agree that Lizard needs to appear as a villan by SM4. He has already been astablished in SM2 and needs to be explored further in the future rather than just leaving him as a loose end. Though I'm not quite sure he would make for a good "main" villan. Possibly a freak accident that happens and SM has to deal with him...but then like you said-have lizard end up fighting with the main villan and peter would have the hard task of confronting Lizard after he learns that he is Dr. Connors.
hitpehoaos
07-04-2006, 04:23 AM
lizard and venom 4 sure
avpmaster132004
07-05-2006, 01:11 AM
Hobgoblin brings venom back and while away venom reproduces and makes Carnage!!! similar to the cartoon yet different
Cyclops3235
07-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Scorpion in a sandman like role, with seeds for Carnage planted. use the ultimate carnage for the seeds, since it seems that is what they are doing for venom. maybe have lizard in there too, but im not very fond of him. Scorpion as the headliner. although i'd love more venom.
Venom3000
07-08-2006, 03:02 PM
Venom and the lizard.
ISHMAEL
07-08-2006, 03:32 PM
Venom and the lizard.
:up: :up: :up:
black_spiderman
07-08-2006, 06:40 PM
I wanna see venom and Lizard, or if venom is coverd in spider-man 3 maybe herry pulling strings on Electro as main, and venom still as sub
turbotwotone
07-10-2006, 04:32 AM
I wanna see venom and Lizard, or if venom is coverd in spider-man 3 maybe herry pulling strings on Electro as main, and venom still as sub
If venom has only a small roll in SM3, then I think he will definitley be in SM4 as the main villan. But if he is given a larger roll in SM 3 (which I'm affraid they might try to do to wrap things up), then I think it would be questionable as to him being in SM4. Don't get me wrong...I want venom to be in the next SM films, but only as a main villan...he should get his own film, not have to share screen time with Sandman. I do hope that he is at least in SM3, even if its briefly at the end of the movie. Even if he does have a larger role in SM3, I hope they leave things open for him to return, and not kill him off. Even if I have to wait untill SM4 to see Venom take center stage...I would rather wait then see too many huge villans crammed into one film.
Venom 1988
07-10-2006, 10:01 AM
^^^
Too bad for you cause Venom's only gonna be in SM3 for 10 mins then die.
Shadow_Knight
07-10-2006, 10:53 AM
Rhino and Scorpion and Silver Sable.
boywonder13
07-10-2006, 10:59 AM
If raimi does it expect classic villains from the 60s...
such as Vulture, and Electro (who was actually rumored...) and the Lizard especailly cause they have Dylan Baker and he is a classic vilain that Raimi loves.
McVenom
07-25-2006, 10:57 PM
Venom as the main villain
plus Lizard and maybe Electro
B1g Jerm
07-26-2006, 02:00 PM
Kingpin and Shocker
FaT_tONle
07-26-2006, 02:53 PM
My SM4 villains/Plot:
SM4: Villains: Lizard, Kraven, Wilson Kisk (aka King Pin), (Shocker or Rhino cameo)
Plot: Conner's formulates the serum to grow back his limb... but when Conner's serum tranforms him into the Lizard, Peter must save his former professor and mentor from the citizens of NYC and himself... Wilson Fisk... a wealthy business man in NYC (secretly the King Pin), introduces Kraven the Hunter to NYC to kill the Lizard... Fisk hopes to gain more recognition in NYC by bringing in the Lizard, while Kraven sees the Lizard as his greatest challenge ever.
Spider-Kurt!
07-26-2006, 05:10 PM
The Lizard vs Kraven
Mr. Vice
07-26-2006, 07:51 PM
Venom and Carnage:up:
bulletbillx
07-26-2006, 08:05 PM
Lizard and electro or mysterio.
5 - Venom makes a suprise return somehow + a secondary villain that would antagonize both him and spider-man (Not necessarily Carnage) maybe the scorpion?
If they do 6 then in 6 have hobgoblin (Kingsley version perhaps using parts of the macandale story) and the sinister six.
EnSabahNur
08-01-2006, 01:29 PM
Venom and Carnage.... With either Electro, Mysterio, Scorpian or ofcourse the Lizard.
DACrowe
08-01-2006, 01:31 PM
Lizard, obviously.
OoAnd1
08-02-2006, 04:51 AM
In my 1 page fan script I have the main story based around Man-Spider with Vulture and Shocker as the main villians. It contains cameos of three other villians also. Hopefully, I tied everything together good.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244887
Melkia2880
08-02-2006, 09:27 AM
Since we've been hearing that Venom will only be around for the last 10 minutes of the film, I think Spidey 4 should continue on with a nice arc for Venom, the introduction of Carnage, and ending with Venom and Spidey forming a truce to take out Carnage. (borrowing from The Amazing Spider-Man in the 90s)
And assuming the popularity of Venom will still be running strong, it could lend quite well to a series of Spinoff films along the lines of the Venom: Lethal Protector series, but missing out all the other Symbiotes! (Peter Parker/Spider-Man cameo optional.)
November Rain
08-02-2006, 09:32 AM
lizard kraven combo, it's the only one that makes sense...
cameo from the vulture and rhino
with references to doc ock, goblins, spideys, rhinos and vultures, it can pave a way for kraven to easily come in as the world's greatest hunter and take his prize...looking for the lizard but then it gets personal and he starts hunting spiderman...
James"007"Bond
08-02-2006, 01:07 PM
I agree with the lizard/kraven combo.....with brock going nuts due to his separation from the symbiot and by the end of sm4, the symbiot reproduces and gives bith to the red symbiot, setting up carnage for a POTENTIAL sequal.
Upper_Krust
08-03-2006, 01:05 PM
Hey there turbotwotone! :)
Well I'm not too sure about having 4 villians in SM3...I'm sure that by that 2-3 of them will either be quick cameos or appear at the end of the film, much like the speculation has been going on Venom. Having more than one central villan would clutter up the plot, and would turn in to a battle for screen time. After all...we all can remember Batman & Robin...ouch!! enough said. With that said I think that the central villan for SM3 will be Sandman...I think Goblin2 will likely either appear towards the end of SM3 or very sparsley in between parts of the 3rd movie. It would be best to really save his main performance untill SM4 or 5...dragging out the fact that peter wouldn't find out it was Harry until after they had been battling each other...much like their relationship from SM1 & 2. I honestly don't think Venom will be in SM3 much at all, and if he is-I agree he will likely be some sort of cliffhanger at the end of SM3. Venom is easily a stand alone villan and rightfully deserves his own movie, which is why I think they will likely hold off on using him until SM4. Besides Venom would likely need to be mostly CG, being as how his suit is living and can take many different shapes...and mostly for the action sequences, much like spiderman is now. Holding off on Venom until SM4 would give them that much more time to really nail doing fully CG characters and for technology to come that further around. AS for the rest of the possible characters...the only blank left is Dr. Conners set up from SM2. I think that it needs to be much later before he comes into the fold. Anyway, here are the rest of my predictions and/or wishlist for the future SM movies.
SM3: Sandman(main), w/ possible Goblin2 appearance, and Kat. She would serve as another possible love interest for Peter and really cause some drama between her and MJ.
I disagree with your assessment. Its illogical to think that Venom's inclusion will be a mere token appearance. This is the end of the Spider-man trilogy. While I can see Raimi coming back I don't see Maguire returning. I think they'll tie up all loose ends but syill leave the possibility for the villains to return in some way.
I don't think this movie will leave a cliffhanger and I don't think we will see Venom in #4.
SM4: Venom (main) Nothing more needs to be said...Venom is quite possibly one of the most classic SM villans and also on of SM's most formidable. This is Venoms show alone. Also possible Goblin 2 appearance.
I disagree, and I don't think we'll see Goblin 2 either in the fourth movie.
Spider-man 4: Personally I think we will have Lizard and Kraven. They have teased Lizard's character since the first movie. It also makes sense to bring Kraven in to hunt the Lizard and then have Spiderman get in the middle. They may also bring in Blackcat.
SM5: Goblin2(main) This is where the battle between Harry and Peter comes to a climax. Peter learns who the goblin really is and must confront his best friend. Also-Possible Lizard appearance...this is where they could bring Connors in.
Again I disagree, its called Spiderman, not the Green Goblin show!
Venom in two movies, Green Goblin in four!? I don't think so. They'll want to mix it up much better than that.
Spider-man 5: Mysterio (played by Bruce Campbell) and Chameleon. It makes more sense to bring Chameleon in after Kraven. Maybe also use Rhino in this movie.
SM6: Either Lizard(main) and/or Mysterio(main). I think either one of these villans would make for an exciting 6th installment. Although I think Mysterio would be more menasing, I think it would also be propper to bring in Connors as the main villan as it was established in the 2nd film.
I disagree...seems to be a running theme doesn't it. :D
Its far too tempting to have the Sinister Six in the sixth movie. I mean if thats not the perfect opportunity I don't know what is!?
--Anything after 6--
SM7: Carnage(main) I don't know if Carnage is a classic enough character to ever warrant his own movie (being as how he is pretty new) I still wouldn't mind having him in a film. I think that it would be at this point he could be brought in.
Possibly.
Once you do the Secret Six I think the only remaining classic villains of interest are:
Carnage, Hydroman, Swarm, Scorpion and possibly Shocker (although I don't think he is a great villain).
Also I don't see any point to doing a Spider-man 7 if you are not going to have an 8 and a 9.
Its not totally obvious who to pick at this point.
7 - Scorpion and Venom/Carnage/Symbiote movie
8 - Kraven (who commits suicide), Swarm used instead of Vermin?
9 - Hydroman and Sandman
SM8: Shocker(main, Rhino(side). I think shocker could be cool enough as a main charcter although rhino would have to be a side character. He's too goofy of a character to have his own film. I also wouldn't mind seeing him in possibly SM3 or 4 as a side character.
I actually agree with you that Rhino should only be used as a side character.
SM9: Kraven the hunter...or anyone else that is left at this point andd hasn't gotten their debut in one of the SM films. Being as how i'm 23 now...I would likely be in my 40's before they could ever get to a 9th movie.
I agree with you that it will start running out of steam (or at least classic villains by this point). Only a series of The Mighty Thor movies could outlast Spider-man before becoming repetitive.
Anyway...I can't wait for Spider-Man 3 in 2007...I think it has the potential to be the best entry in the SM series so far. I have very high expectations for part 3 and I know that sam saimi won't dissapoint. If there are more movies to be made after SM3...I hope they get back Raimi as well as the whole cast to do them, including Toby Maguire, which would be a feet in itself.
Agreed. But unlikely. I'd make sure any new cast signed on for another three movies (Spidey 4, 5 and 6), and I can't see Toby Maguire doing that.
Spiderine
08-06-2006, 12:12 AM
Lizard would be the main villain and Kraven would be the the other villain.
XSpidercideX
08-08-2006, 02:29 AM
Mysterio, Scorpion or Lizard
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Agreed.
lizard855
08-25-2006, 07:24 AM
Lizard all the way! If not i would like to see carnage
whiteAngelus
08-25-2006, 08:00 AM
we have been told that vemon will almost be rounded off for the films in the last 15- 20 minutes I reckon that this is unlikely and venom will be back, 4 should continue the venom saga in a logical progression and lizard or doc ock will be the cliffhanger for spidey 3 either doc ock sayin he wants to create some form of partner ship to finish off spiderman or lizard transformin etc, lizard should be in 4 with venom as for seeds for later villians and although im not fond of kraven ideas the i idea of havin him hunt lizard is good so i could go for that harry will die in this one im sorry so that means norman can come back either to side with ock in the next one as only a tiny bit more i.e less that a minute when doc ock is back and mentions he is preparin the sinister six etc and norman joins so just enough to piss us off for another 5 years or so and then by 5 or 6 a well done complex sinister six venom, doc ock, GG, a wicked vulture (saw some art and it could actually be brilliant) maybe lizard or sandman id like that but dont forget dont depend on there fates because in comics no one ever dies (well stays ded anyway) as stan lee himself said why kill a great villian when you can use them again. Mysterio arc with that wrestling annoncer, usher (cant remember his name that would be good) but to finish off i think electro as scorpion can be used as cameo to set him up as not just villian but more of a sense of spidey and he arent at that point yet
so eventually GG, doc ock, venom, vulture, electro and sandman Vs spidey and maybe another villian who sides with him or one of the six turnin on his team mates in the end maybe doc ock who only wants to beat spidey not hurt innocent people cause of what happened at the end of 2 and also doc ock has reformed a few times its never stays that way also cause it happened a fair bit in the comics Id love the human torch to come and help Spidey in the sixth one and battle venom cause of the symbote and fire thing but only after spidey rumbled with him that in my opinion would be brilliant no 2D character all developed all unique with own agendas and as a Fantasic finale- and mary jane and peter should marry at some point couldnt care less when though cause id just rather there to be more action fight scenes that you may now kiss the bride
whiteAngelus
08-25-2006, 08:01 AM
P.S spidey shouldnt unmask in any film but if he must the last one but I dont think this is great, good storys but just no
MarvelLegend
08-25-2006, 12:26 PM
First of all, it should start out right in the middle of a fight scene. Spider-Man dodging bullets outside of a bank. He gets inside and starts dodging Electric blasts. Turns out it's The Shocker. He defeats Shocker and we see Shocker getting taken out in cuffs. That would be an AWESOME opening.
Then I think it would be cool if they went with the Man-Spider storyline for Spidey 4. With Peter Parker struggling with this "transformation" that seems to be happening to him. The whole time the background story is about Neogenics, with Jameson creating the Scorpion to dispose of Spider-Man, as well as Dr. Connors struggling with his Lizard persona.
The movie can be about Spider-Man trying to help Connors, of course having to tangle with the Lizard in the process. And then he's bombarded by The Scorpion out of nowhere, which gives him two problems. And then to top it off, he's got something going on inside of him that he's struggling to control.
Turn him into Man-Spider at the end, I think it would be an awesome movie.
Spider-ManHero12
08-26-2006, 04:16 AM
it would be awesome if they had the lizard or electro for spiderman4.
spideyman101
08-26-2006, 08:26 AM
i've made my own fan script for the 4th already and it took me like 4 or 5 months and i've finally made it quite good...
in it there's a after-cliffhanger with Venom, and Peter and Venom fight in the apartment, which during the fight is set on fire, and the symbiote flees from the heat, and then the police end up with Brock and send him to jail. Peter and harry are on good terms again, though JJ keeps giving Peter jobs on getting pictures of Harry. so Harry starts jumping to the conclusion that the press is suspicious about him being the Green Goblin. so he goes and attacks JJ, but Spidey stops him and this restarts his hate for Spider-Man and Peter again. so now Pete deals with Harry a bit... the Spider-Man mutations heads to the 8 arms story, but it later reversed before it gets to the Man-Spider level... while he's a 8 armed freak, he'll deal with Kraven, Prowler and possibly Scorpion being assigned to hunt him... Prowler soon turns against JJ and goes to help Spidey. Scorpion is deafeated, and now Kraven goes in hiding for a while. then the symbiote ends up coming to Spidey one last time, and because Spidey got rid of it easily last time, this time the symbiote permanatly bonds to him. Spidey tries to use noise, fire and everything to get it off but nothing works... then Kraven comes out of nowhere to do the "Kraven's Last Hunt" story... if you don't know about that horrific, mind-blowing comic-story, then look it up. :P
ok, then Kraven ends up killing himself. later Green Goblin kidnapes Mary Jane, Aunt May, and possibly JJ... so he's trying to get to Spidey but he dosn't know he's supposobly dead from the Kraven's last hunt. But just like the comics, Spide rises from being drugged and gets out of his grave and goes to do the "Harry's death" comic-story with the bomb and the mansion and Harry's redemption, etc... anyway, Prowler helps Spidey battle Green Goblin, and finally the double-dose of the preformance enhancers that GG took is effecting him and making him about to die... so he asks Peter's forgiveness...
the movie ends not with swinging, but with Roderick Kingsley discovering the Goblin lair...
the idea of the Hobgoblin coming in the story is just a good idea in my opinion, because personally i think it would be great if The Goblins are like the Spider-Man Movies TradeMark villain... because you've had a Goblin in each film... so keeping it up with Hobgoblin would just be good in my opinion.
spideyman101
08-26-2006, 08:27 AM
First of all, it should start out right in the middle of a fight scene. Spider-Man dodging bullets outside of a bank. He gets inside and starts dodging Electric blasts. Turns out it's The Shocker. He defeats Shocker and we see Shocker getting taken out in cuffs. That would be an AWESOME opening.
Then I think it would be cool if they went with the Man-Spider storyline for Spidey 4. With Peter Parker struggling with this "transformation" that seems to be happening to him. The whole time the background story is about Neogenics, with Jameson creating the Scorpion to dispose of Spider-Man, as well as Dr. Connors struggling with his Lizard persona.
The movie can be about Spider-Man trying to help Connors, of course having to tangle with the Lizard in the process. And then he's bombarded by The Scorpion out of nowhere, which gives him two problems. And then to top it off, he's got something going on inside of him that he's struggling to control.
Turn him into Man-Spider at the end, I think it would be an awesome movie.
dude, my story is a lot like yours... but i swear i didn't "steal it from you" or anything...
... i spent 4 freakin months working on my version. :P
lizard855
08-26-2006, 06:38 PM
I still say Lizard, but after Otto Octavius getting re-invented in Curt Connors' image in SM2 and the appearance of monster villain Venom in SM3, I don't see it happening. :( And you call your self a lizard fan. I cant belive you would think that
kal-el1990
08-27-2006, 02:45 PM
kingpin backing the scorpion and electro
Spider-ManHero12
08-27-2006, 03:16 PM
thay should use electro and lizard for spiderman4.
Forumer
08-29-2006, 05:34 AM
I want Spidey and Eddie to fight together against Carnage, and have the Lizard in there too (Connors experimenting with symbiote regenerative properties).
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