Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children arrives FINALLY on April 25th

[TheVileOne]

It took 7 months, a lot of silence from Square Enix and a ton of infuration, but its finally here.

Review from IGN.com:

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/701/701928p1.html

Interviews with the cast and video footage from the US premiere:

http://media.dvd.ign.com/media/761/761530/vids_1.html

English clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXklWZEsFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmgYgE_4qXc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zdoSgvNvYWk&search=advent%20children%20english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdViV98TXkU&search=advent%20children%20english

http://www.sonypictures.com/previews/player/homevideo/finalfantasyviiadventchildren/index.html

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/finalfantasyvii/psp/clips.html

Parodies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=O9TEtyEj2Ms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPLWQwB0PY

Some people are reportedly already finding it in select locations. Forbidden Planet in NYC and such. Others have found it at Blockbuster.

So let's try to keep all info. pertaining to Advent Children in this thread from here on out guys.

So far I'm liking what I'm hearing from all the English VA's. I think Kadaj and Cloud sound even better in English. Steven Blum is perfect for Vincent.

[Gotenks]

It took 7 months, a lot of silence from Square Enix and a ton of infuration, but its finally here.

Review from IGN.com:

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/701/701928p1.html

Interviews with the cast and video footage from the US premiere:

http://media.dvd.ign.com/media/761/761530/vids_1.html

English clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXklWZEsFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmgYgE_4qXc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zdoSgvNvYWk&search=advent%20children%20english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdViV98TXkU&search=advent%20children%20english

http://www.sonypictures.com/previews/player/homevideo/finalfantasyviiadventchildren/index.html

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/finalfantasyvii/psp/clips.html

Parodies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=O9TEtyEj2Ms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPLWQwB0PY

Some people are reportedly already finding it in select locations. Forbidden Planet in NYC and such. Others have found it at Blockbuster.

So let's try to keep all info. pertaining to Advent Children in this thread from here on out guys.

So far I'm liking what I'm hearing from all the English VA's. I think Kadaj and Cloud sound even better in English. Steven Blum is perfect for Vincent.

I know i just saw it in a Electronic gaming mag this morning i also like the voices i cant wait just 6 days!

[TheVileOne]

Yeah. I'm glad they are finally advertising it. For a while I felt they were missing the boat and the advertising was pretty poor or non-existent.

They have to get the word out and show what the release date is after all the crap we've been through.

But wow, the interviews at the premiere, that IGN lady is pretty annoying.

[Gotenks]

Yeah. I'm glad they are finally advertising it. For a while I felt they were missing the boat and the advertising was pretty poor or non-existent.

They have to get the word out and show what the release date is after all the crap we've been through.

But wow, the interviews at the premiere, that IGN lady is pretty annoying.

lol yeah.

So what do u think would be the better deal psp or dvd?

[TheVileOne]

Dude, PSP is a dead format for movies. DVD all the way.

Movie studios are already halting production on PSP. PSP you don't get any of the extras as the DVD set and it costs about the same. You can only watch the PSP version on a crappy 4 inch screen? Umm no.

DVD.

[Gotenks]

Dude, PSP is a dead format for movies. DVD all the way.

Movie studios are already halting production on PSP. PSP you don't get any of the extras as the DVD set and it costs about the same. You can only watch the PSP version on a crappy 4 inch screen? Umm no.

DVD.

i feel stupid my bad man i forgot about the dvd extras. i was just thinking of watching if on the road but i didnt want to buy both.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah but you know, do you only want to watch Advent Children on the road?

[Tsunulia]

Anyone here ever watch a show called perfect strangers?

Vincent's character design reminds me of Bowki (sp?) :( that kinda ruined my impression of him.

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Can't wait for the 25. But I can live for a while longer cuz I have the Japanese version to tide me over :D

[Dorian Gray]

I reserved both the UMD and DVD....
UMD might not be the greatest invention but hey, I'll do it for FF7:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm quite excited. This is probably the most beautifully done animated movie to date. Shrek and Incredibles included.

[Timstuff]

I'm going to buy it without hesitation come this tuesday. :)

[TheVileOne]

I reserved both the UMD and DVD....
UMD might not be the greatest invention but hey, I'll do it for FF7:up:
If you are already getting the DVD, why shell out all the extra scratch for the UMD?

[Dorian Gray]

If you are already getting the DVD, why shell out all the extra scratch for the UMD?


Eh, UMDs are close to 50% off if you buy a DVD at the Suncoast where I reserved my copies.
..plus I could use it for trips and such...

[Elijya]

I'm quite excited. This is probably the most beautifully done animated movie to date. Shrek and Incredibles included.
Uh, if you mean CGI, I'll agree with you, but just plain animated? I say a Studio Ghibli film probably deserves that honor

[Colossal Spoons]

^I'm not familiar with a specific title of theirs. Throw one out there. But yeah, I did mean CGI.

[Elijya]

Studio Ghibli? They've done:

Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Howl's Moving Castle
Nausicaa
Porco Rosso
The Cat Returns
Grave of the Fireflies

[Colossal Spoons]

Aaahh, P.Mononoke was beautifully done as well. I always meant to see Spirited Away.

[Gotenks]

Yeah but you know, do you only want to watch Advent Children on the road?

well i go on the road alot so it would be nice, but i also want the dvd i might just buy both only because of the extras on the dvd.

[Colossal Spoons]

Guess Vile and I are the only people worried about actually driving when we're out on the road. :confused:

[Dorian Gray]

Guess Vile and I are the only people worried about actually driving when we're out on the road. :confused:


lol, no bus trips for me...like to Atlanic City for instance.

[AndThePickles]

Studio Ghibli? They've done:

Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Howl's Moving Castle
Nausicaa
Porco Rosso
The Cat Returns
Grave of the Fireflies

I LOVED Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away :up:

[TheVileOne]

Guess Vile and I are the only people worried about actually driving when we're out on the road. :confused:

Pretty much. Too busy driving to watch Advent Children :) .

Plus, I don't really want to watch movies on tiny screens like that. No appeal to me at all.

[Elijya]

I LOVED Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away :up:
You should watch the others, you'll love them. Although Grave of the Fireflies may send you into a spiral of sadness and depression from which there is no return without medication.

[ookami]

All I got to say is I loved it, the animation is the best I've seen in a while, the fight scenes are awesome, you guys are going to love it.

BTW, I've had it for weeks and just watched it yesterday.

[Dorian Gray]

All I got to say is I loved it, the animation is the best I've seen in a while, the fight scenes are awesome, you guys are going to love it.

BTW, I've had it for weeks and just watched it yesterday.


Same, I've had it since November subtitled with DVD quality..:up:

Though the subtitles are questionable(as in thats may or may not be exactly what they're saying) due to it being fansubbed.

[ookami]

Same, I've had it since November subtitled with DVD quality..:up:

Though the subtitles are questionable(as in thats may or may not be exactly what they're saying) due to it being fansubbed.

Yay you're from B-More too. I know the subtitles are questionable, they make it seem more serious in dialogue than it should be, but usually I just watch for the action more than the words. If I know what it's about who need subtitles.

[TheVileOne]

So all you guys had the bootleg or the import?

;)

[ookami]

Import

[Dorian Gray]

So all you guys had the bootleg or the import?

;)


I downloaded mine, I couldn't beleive it was DVD quality no grittyness what so ever.

Though I still want the U.S. released version.

[Tsunulia]

So all you guys had the bootleg or the import?

;)

*hangs head down*

yes..........................picked it up for $20. I don't have a PS2 so the version to come with the game wasn't logical for me.

[AndThePickles]

You should watch the others, you'll love them. Although Grave of the Fireflies may send you into a spiral of sadness and depression from which there is no return without medication.

I just got a big recommendation on Howl's Moving Castle today, I need to go rent that.

[Tsunulia]

I just got a big recommendation on Howl's Moving Castle today, I need to go rent that.

don't trust the hype surrounding that one. It's good but the story isn't great, and I found myself somewhat mad at the end [spoliers]at why the war was being fought[/spoilers]

It's good but don't start watching it expecting it to be as great as some of the other Miyazaki movies.

[AndThePickles]

don't trust the hype surrounding that one. It's good but the story isn't great, and I found myself somewhat mad at the end [spoliers]at why the war was being fought[/spoilers]

It's good but don't start watching it expecting it to be as great as some of the other Miyazaki movies.

Oh, it was from a girl in one of my classes. I'll keep that in mind though so I don't have any expectations when I watch it :up:

[Elijya]

it is a tad long, but it's still good

after Mononoke and Spirited Away, Nausicaa is my favorite, followed by Porco Rosso

[Colossal Spoons]

Whoever did "Flight Of The Dragons" did an awesome job as well. Yeah, the animation looks outdated, but that's because the movie is really old. I highly recommend it. :up:

[TheVileOne]

English clip of a bunch of the supporting characters on the Sierra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvEiFGF5dD0

[Dorian Gray]

I found an anime shop that sold the movie a week in advance I was a bit suprised to find it.
I have to say....I had alot of doubt before I watched it but many of the characters were voiced quite well.,

Cloud
Aerith
Reno
Tifa
Kadaj
Marlene
Denzel

All were voiced nicley IMO, some of the others just fell a little short but still it was better than I was expecting.

[Tsunulia]

Ok there's something that neither me or anyone I know can figure out. What's with the wolf? Is it Zack or somn?

[TheVileOne]

There are some different theories.

Some people see it as a symbol of Cloud's doubt and despair that he can't let go of. As well as Cloud trying to act lonely and being a lone-wolf.

Other people see it as the spirit of Zack still watching over Cloud.

[TheVileOne]

TODAY!

The wait is finally over.

Only the people that pre-ordered it at Gamestop get an extra third bonus disc :( .

Best Buy seems to have it for the cheapest price at $14.99.

EB Games - $19.99.

Gamestop - $24.99.

[Corinthian™]

English clip of a bunch of the supporting characters on the Sierra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvEiFGF5dD0
God. I never get tired of English dubs..

[Elijya]

Only the people that pre-ordered it at Gamestop get an extra third bonus disc :( ..
WHAT!!!!

what is on this disc?

[Tsunulia]

I wanna know too :( I never heard anything about bonus material.

[Elijya]

oh, I heard some stuff about bonus material, check this out: supposedly you can view ALL of the FMV sequences from FFVII as part of a summary of the events of the game for viewers who never played it. I ASSUME that's on the second disc, I don't know what the mystery third disc is. FFX!! demo maybe?

[Tsunulia]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can finally stop reading the subs when I watch it now :D $15 at Best Buy!!! Ya baby!!! But I can't watch now :( gota wait for awhile

[Odin's Lapdog]

oh my lord, that dubbing is sooooo bad it makes me want to poke my ears out.


if any of you dare watching the full english version i'll come to your homes and chop your balls off. (women included)

:mad:

[Tsunulia]

oh my lord, that dubbing is sooooo bad it makes me want to poke my ears out.


if any of you dare watching the full english version i'll come to your homes and chop your balls off. (women included)

:mad:

Ya.................... you know what? You're the only person I've heard to dis this dub. And I'm gonna watch it anyway cuz cheap threats don't work on me :mad: Just you try to get into my home, try it and you shall be smote :mad: ...............................:p

[boywonder13]

I watched it last year 7 out of 10...

'Nuff Said!

[Corinthian™]

Ya.................... you know what? You're the only person I've heard to dis this dub. And I'm gonna watch it anyway cuz cheap threats don't work on me :mad: Just you try to get into my home, try it and you shall be smote :mad: ...............................:p
add me in...

Americans suck at Dubbing...:down

[Dorian Gray]

For me.....its not horrible but it's not great either, its merely ok. I do wish they would have taken this more seriously and did a better job....Especially Sephiroth...his english voice did not fit his character

Mena Survei did a slightly better job in Advent Children than she did in KH2. At least Cloud and Kadaj were voiced a lot better than the others.

[Corinthian™]

For me.....its not horrible but it's not great either, its merely ok. I do wish they would have taken this more seriously and did a better job....Especially Sephiroth...his english voice did not fit his character

Mena Survei did a slightly better job in Advent Children than she did in KH2. At least Cloud and Kadaj were voiced a lot better than the others.
if that's "OK" you have low standards

[Elijya]

... or maybe just different standards? it's a peice of entertainment, no one's opinion is "Right", that's why they're opinions

[Corinthian™]

... or maybe just different standards? it's a peice of entertainment, no one's opinion is "Right", that's why they're opinions
well... that would be when you are talking about FF:AC in general, not the dubbing. I just feel that the American Dubbing sucks in general. They don't have the right voices, they don't have the right feeling. I rather hear the original voices or maybe a better dubbing.

[Elijya]

but that's your opinion too

it's never a fact that something "sucks", unless you're talking about a vacuum cleaner or a hooker

[Corinthian™]

but that's your opinion too

it's never a fact that something "sucks", unless you're talking about a vacuum cleaner or a hooker
how about sub-par?

It may be an opinion, but people that compare the dub with the original will say that the original is obviously better done.

Either ways, Mexicans rule:o:up:

[Elijya]

Ok, I'll give you that one, just cause I want you to feel special :p :)

How ya been Corinthian? we haven't talked in awhile

[Corinthian™]

bothered with finals... :down

[Timstuff]

Went to four stores today looking for this movie. The first two were sold out, and the third didn't seem to have it in stock. So even though I didn't want to, I ended up going to the Wal-Mart where I work, on my day off. And sure enough, they were the only one that had any left. But hey, at least I finally it. I'm going to watch it tonight. :D

[Elijya]

glad to hear it's doing well

I have mine reserved, but I can't get to the store it's at until tomorrow

[Dorian Gray]

well... that would be when you are talking about FF:AC in general, not the dubbing. I just feel that the American Dubbing sucks in general. They don't have the right voices, they don't have the right feeling. I rather hear the original voices or maybe a better dubbing.

Not all Dubs are terrible and not all are excellent.......... thats how I feel about it.

[Timstuff]

Whew, I just finished watching it. It blew my socks off! The English dub wasn't that bad, even though there were some odd breaks in the dialogue (which is most likely because it's difficult to sync the english language with japanese lip movement). I thought the voices were good enough though, and the movie itself was sweet. It's not the best movie ever, but certainly worthy of ownership by any FFVII and/or animation fan. It makes me wish that Square would hurry up with that FFVII remake for PS3 that they've been teasing about!

Definately a satasfying movie. 4/5 stars.

[Tsunulia]

:( ......................the voices...............THE VOICES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was very optimistic about the English dub, but it's like they didn't really try. As entertainment it's ok, but as art it's not ok. I'm just glad i didn't pay a lot for it.

I started getting confused because some of the conversations were changed to allow better understanding of what was going on.............i just got a little more lost.

oh well.............I actually thought that Sephiroth was the most decent dub.

[Psionic Force]

I bought it last night at Walmart... as someone that has not really played the games, I actually liked the movie.

Do the games look like the movie? What is the title of the next one?

[Elijya]

The most recent games, FFX and FFX-2 look pretty close to the movie, and FF7 8 and 9 had cut scenes that were close.

What is the title of the next what? the next Final Fantasy Game? Uh, Final Fantasy 12

[TheVileOne]

WHAT!!!!

what is on this disc?

No one on Gamestop would tell me.

FYI guys, this seems to be selling out wherever I go. I had to drive extra to a more remote Best Buy in order to buy it and another copy for a friend's birthday present.

You know what this proves? That companies cannot cite downloading as a source of sales going down.

If anything, I think the downloading of AC just made people more excited about it and made them want to own it even more. But Square Enix seemed to lazy to provide it for a while.

[Tsunulia]

I had absolutely no problem getting it. (of course I got there about an hour after the store opened)

[TheVileOne]

I had absolutely no problem getting it. (of course I got there about an hour after the store opened)
It was about afternoon (after class really) for me.

Anyone else have trouble finding it or is it selling well in your areas?

It seems to be selling very well in the Austin and Texas areas really. It topped #1 on Amazon.com a couple days ago.

[Tsunulia]

I haven't checked back anywhere to see how it's selling. I went to Best Buy and they said that their initial shipment wasn't very large so they will probably sell out quickly since they have it cheapest.

[Elijya]

none of you reserved?

[Tsunulia]

none of you reserved?

I'm always early to get my stuff. One time I got the very first Star Wars right out the shipping box. I don't usually reserve unless I get somn really good as a bonus.

[TheVileOne]

BTW guys, I really dig the REMINISCENCE for FFVII feature.

It's a nice little clip show version of the FFVII game, a nice summary of it basically with a few extra Cloud/cell phone/motorcycle scenes thrown in.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The dubbing and the lip sync were not the best, in fact both were average or borderline poor and this was distracting. And the action scene's could have been longer by a few mins, but it was just nice to see the characters again that i have loved so much since i was 14. Anyone know if there are any plans for a movie sequel for FF8 and FF9.

[Elijya]

doubt it, those two games don't have near the following that 7 does. I don't think we'll hear Square even mention the possibility unless FF:AC does extremely well, which it seems to be so far

[Odin's Lapdog]

squall deserves his own film but it's not likely.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah, i liked Squall and Zidane, not as much as Cloud, but Squall had a better sword, the gun blade.

[Elijya]

Squall had ZERO personality to me

[Timstuff]

I had absolutely no problem getting it. (of course I got there about an hour after the store opened)

Well that explains it. I went in the later hours of the afternoon, and the answer was the same at both Best Buy and Target: "Sorry, but someone bought our last copy just 10 minutes ago!" :p

[Timstuff]

Wow, lots of people complaining about the dub... Maybe my expectations/standards are lower since I've heard many dub-tracks that were far worse. :D

[Elijya]

people complaining about the dub are people who don't like dubs in general

[Timstuff]

I like dubs, as long as they're of decent quality. Although for some people, no quality is good enough. I like a good dub though because it doesn't distract you from the on-screen images the way reading subtitles does.

[TheVileOne]

The dubbing seemed fine for the most part to me.

Some of the lip syncing was not absolutely perfect, more due to the fact that they probably used motion capture on a lot of the faces of the VA's for the dialogue.

Newbern's Sephiroth I think sounded awesome. As did Steven Jay Blum's Vincent.

As for the action scenes Jamon, they did extend them a lot. This whole thing started out as just a short, 20 minute series of vignettes that kept getting bigger and bigger, eventually turning into a feature length movie. So they extended a lot of things. Plus the third act is almost nothing but action.

The Sephiroth/Cloud fight went over like 6 minutes from start to finish.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The dubbing seemed fine for the most part to me.

Some of the lip syncing was not absolutely perfect, more due to the fact that they probably used motion capture on a lot of the faces of the VA's for the dialogue.

Newbern's Sephiroth I think sounded awesome. As did Steven Jay Blum's Vincent.

As for the action scenes Jamon, they did extend them a lot. This whole thing started out as just a short, 20 minute series of vignettes that kept getting bigger and bigger, eventually turning into a feature length movie. So they extended a lot of things. Plus the third act is almost nothing but action.

The Sephiroth/Cloud fight went over like 6 minutes from start to finish.

I think the lipsync was very poor throughout, a lot of it was way out, which was distracting.

I wanted the Cloud/Sephiroth fight to last another few mins, but i gues they never had the budget. Still an enjoyable movie though.

[Mr. Credible]

what from the game would you guys have liked to see?

i definately wouldn't have minded the Omnislash to finish Sephiroth off at the end (although clouds new 'limit' was pretty forking sweet!)

oh, that, and the Ultima Sword.

[Timstuff]

what from the game would you guys have liked to see?

Dang, that's a tough question! Final Fantasy VII is really Square's ultimate IP to re-visit, but I guess maybe FF8 would be the next obvious choice (however, it does not even compare to FF7 in terms of cult-status). Square does have other IPs that could potentially be cool to re-visit as movies, as well. If it weren't for the fact that they already made one with traditional animation, it would have been sweet if they did the Fullmetal Alchemist movie in CG ala Advent Children (my inner geek drools lakes at that idea). There's also Chrono Trigger, however I think that that may work better as a hand-animated movie, so I'm not sure.

And, there's also the obvious possibility that Square could make new IPs specifically for film, or purchase film rights for IPs from thrid parties. Now that they've got a sucsess under their belt, the possibilities are crazy. I think that Square is definately shows lots of potential to transform from a game publisher to a multi-media entertainment company, and FFVII:AC was a great start.

[Nathan]

people complaining about the dub are people who don't like dubs in general

I'm actually one of those people. But surprisingly I could live with the dub in AC. The only one I had a problem with was Sephiroth. He just doesn't sound right.

But I'll stick to the sub. I really missed Reno's Zutto! in the Movie.

[Tsunulia]

people complaining about the dub are people who don't like dubs in general

not true :( I would rather have the dubs. I luv em actually and I never heard one done this weakly. But if I had to rate it I would give it 5/10.

[Tsunulia]

what from the game would you guys have liked to see?

i definately wouldn't have minded the Omnislash to finish Sephiroth off at the end (although clouds new 'limit' was pretty forking sweet!)

oh, that, and the Ultima Sword.

WE NEEDED MORE SUMMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would've loved to see an entire all-out summon battle. We needz more magic :D


Weren't they planning to give Vincent his own movie once upon a time?

[Elijya]

he's getting his own game

[Nathan]

It's called Dirge of Cerberus and is a 3rd person shooter.

http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/ps2/ffvii-dirge-cerberus/ffvii-dirge-cerberus-6.jpg

[Tsunulia]

It's called Dirge of Cerberus and is a 3rd person shooter.

http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/ps2/ffvii-dirge-cerberus/ffvii-dirge-cerberus-6.jpg

Oh ya......now I remember :D Do they have a release date set for it?

[Elijya]

hmm, ya know, I can't believe this never occured to me before, but anyone else notice the similarity between Vincent and Raziel from Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver? Both have short tattered capes, clawed hands, and high collars that cover the bottom of their face. Raziel's a resurrected Vampire, and when you first find Vincent he's in a coffin

[Nathan]

Oh ya......now I remember :D Do they have a release date set for it?

3rd Quartal 2006. There isn't an exact date yet.

[Elijya]

compare

http://www.ffcrystals.limited-chaos.com/FF7/WallPapers/Vincent.jpg
http://www.cdaccess.com/jpg/shared/front/large/soulreav.jpg

[Tsunulia]

hmm, ya know, I can't believe this never occured to me before, but anyone else notice the similarity between Vincent and Raziel from Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver? Both have short tattered capes, clawed hands, and high collars that cover the bottom of their face. Raziel's a resurrected Vampire, and when you first find Vincent he's in a coffin

mmmmmmm..................never thought about that before. But now that you mention it........ya I can see it too. I was laughin though when they were showing the first full body shots of Vincent in the movie. His boots make me laugh :D

[Tsunulia]

compare

http://www.ffcrystals.limited-chaos.com/FF7/WallPapers/Vincent.jpg
http://www.cdaccess.com/jpg/shared/front/large/soulreav.jpg

I never noticed before but Raziel's got a Gene Starwind effet goin on there hehehe

[Elijya]

from Outlaw Star? where do you get that impression from?

[Nathan]

hmm, ya know, I can't believe this never occured to me before, but anyone else notice the similarity between Vincent and Raziel from Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver? Both have short tattered capes, clawed hands, and high collars that cover the bottom of their face. Raziel's a resurrected Vampire, and when you first find Vincent he's in a coffin

Nope, not once. Raziel has 3 fingered claws, Vincent one Gauntlet. Raziel doesn't have a cape, those are his wings that have been ripped to shreds. So the only similarity are the collars, and even those are very different. Raziel's collar is his clan banner wrapped tightly around his face, while Vincent's collar is... well, you see the screenshot.

[Elijya]

Nope, not once. Raziel has 3 fingered claws, Vincent one Gauntlet. Raziel doesn't have a cape, those are his wings that have been ripped to shreds. So the only similarity are the collars, and even those are very different. Raziel's collar is his clan banner wrapped tightly around his face, while Vincent's collar is... well, you see the screenshot.
I'm aware of the specific dissimilarities, I'm not calling them clones, you may as well have pointed out that Vincent's cape is red and Raziel's is brown. Duh. But from a general viewpoint, the look and feel of their designs, they're similar

[Nathan]

Yeah, they both emit a similar vibe.

[Tsunulia]

from Outlaw Star? where do you get that impression from?

hehehe I've coined that term 'Gene Starwind Effect' to refer to character designs that have gigantic broad shoulders and pencil like torsos :D hehehe Ya know, big at the top and then they get really skinny hehehe

[War Party]

I bought the movie yesterday and I absolutely loved it. It was great seeing these characters in action after so many years. I thought it had a great story, the action was intense, and I really didn't have a problem with the dubbing. I usually don't care much for dubbing, but it really didn't bug me. And Sephiroth was completely badass. It would of probably bugged me more if I saw the sub. version. But overall, I loved Advent Children. Here's hoping for more CGI films directed towards upper teen and adults.

[Tsunulia]

ya know..........I started to think.............wait a minute................ya, I'm thinking...........I think.

WAY OFF TOPIC-

Ok I got it now. I was trying to find the thread about the live action DBZ ( I thought there was one, it may be gone but oh well). Screw the live action and make it CGI exactly like FF7AC. It would work wonders for the hair and the energy blasts would look awesome.

[TheVileOne]

FYI, the bonus Gamestop includes interview footage with the English cast.

Another thing Square Enix should've included on the second disc along with Last Order, but didn't.

[Timstuff]

ya know..........I started to think.............wait a minute................ya, I'm thinking...........I think.

WAY OFF TOPIC-

Ok I got it now. I was trying to find the thread about the live action DBZ ( I thought there was one, it may be gone but oh well). Screw the live action and make it CGI exactly like FF7AC. It would work wonders for the hair and the energy blasts would look awesome.

If somehow they could get Square to animate it, I'd be all for it. :up:

[Corinthian™]

people complaining about the dub are people who don't like dubs in general
I like dubs very much.. especially Mexican since they rule:O

[HUMAN]

I think they should make FFVII into a major motion picture. Since this movie will obviously be a success, they should capitalize on it. An adaptation of one of the games onto film was what the fans wanted from the beginning when they announced The Spirits Within. Obviously the most popular is VII, so they should make it! I'd love to see this caliber of action on the big screen.

Cloud can kick Neo's ass!

Eventually there needs to be something done with Final Fantasy VIII because gunblades are just too damn cool.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Gunblades are the best weapon of the series IMO and even though VIII was never as good as Vii, i would love to see them do a sequel to that.

[XwolverineX]

It's not been selling here 'cause of some gay french Language barrier ****. Damn, Quebec sux.

[Tsunulia]

Has anyone noticed that in the game the Lightning Rod rocked, but in the movie it's just a stick? :( Not cool.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Another thing, how can Cloud beat Sephiroth when he never became a member of soldier. He shouldnt have been as good as he was. If i remember it was Zack who was in Soldier.

[Tsunulia]

I'm pretty sure Cloud was a Soldier.

[Odin's Lapdog]

I think they should make FFVII into a major motion picture. Since this movie will obviously be a success, they should capitalize on it. An adaptation of one of the games onto film was what the fans wanted from the beginning when they announced The Spirits Within. Obviously the most popular is VII, so they should make it! I'd love to see this caliber of action on the big screen.

Cloud can kick Neo's ass!

Eventually there needs to be something done with Final Fantasy VIII because gunblades are just too damn cool.
yazoo used a gunblade in advent children

[Tsunulia]

yazoo used a gunblade in advent children

Which was frikin sweet to watch. In the animation they took account for the recoil, which I thought looked excellently realistic. :D

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm pretty sure Cloud was a Soldier.

No he never made it into Soldier, it was Zack and Cloud used Zacks memories to convince everyone he had made it.

[Odin's Lapdog]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2990&stc=1&d=1146141934

[Tsunulia]

No he never made it into Soldier, it was Zack and Cloud used Zacks memories to convince everyone he had made it.

0.o ..................hmmmm..........I gotta watch that feature on the disc that goes through the game. I finished the game about a year and a half ago. I must've forgotten those tidbits there :(

[Tsunulia]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2990&stc=1&d=1146141934

-o- aaaaaahhhhhhahaha *drools uncontrollably*

deliciously beatiful :up:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah Yazoo had a gunblade, but it was no were near as good as Squalls.

[Tsunulia]

Yeah Yazoo had a gunblade, but it was no were near as good as Squalls.

Loz carried a gunblade too, though he never used it as his primary weapon.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

0.o ..................hmmmm..........I gotta watch that feature on the disc that goes through the game. I finished the game about a year and a half ago. I must've forgotten those tidbits there :(

To be honest i only remembered he wasnt a soldier, the reminiss helped me remember the rest.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Loz carried a gunblade too, though he never used it as his primary weapon.

Yeah it was attached to his right? Squalls was like the size of Clouds sword though, awesome.

[Tsunulia]

Yeah it was attached to his right? Squalls was like the size of Clouds sword though, awesome.

His left side, and that was pure sweetness when Yazoo took it out and used it for himself.

[Odin's Lapdog]

yeah loz had one himself, he shot cloud with it at the end of the film which i first thought was a continuity error but then i remembered it was yazoo's gunblade that got busted in the tunnel, not loz's...

[Tsunulia]

I don't know if I'm having a memory skip or somn, but I don't remember seeing Loz's big shocky punchy weapon before. Anyone know what that was cuz it was wicked cool.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't know if I'm having a memory skip or somn, but I don't remember seeing Loz's big shocky punchy weapon before. Anyone know what that was cuz it was wicked cool.

I remember something like it in 7, 8 or 9, but nothing specific, it might have been one of the characters limit breaks to punch the floor.

[Elijya]

Which was frikin sweet to watch. In the animation they took account for the recoil, which I thought looked excellently realistic. :D
um, dude? "Realistic" is the LAST word you want to use to describe the physics in this movie.

Finally saw it last night, and I did not care that much for the english voices, I'll be watching it in Japanese from now on. Cloud's was alright, but that was pretty much it for me, everyone else just sounded off in one way or another.

As for the movie itself: yeah, lacking in decent plot (why the hell did they kidnap the kids? anyone?) The wacky physics also took me out of it. This isn't Dragonball Z. I could stand for most of the jumping around, but that scene where Cloud rockets up into the air towards Bahamut and the others all leap after him, and give him a boost? THAT MAKES NO FRIKKIN SENSE!!!!!. There was also zero exposition, most people not familiar with the game won't understand a thing.

[Tsunulia]

I was only commenting on one scene for the physics. When Yazoo was shooting at Cloud in the Forgotten City. That's the one detail I liked most because the animators accounted for the recoil of the gun. I'm not speaking for the physics as a whole.

Ya, the whole Cloud going up real high thing was kind of .........weird.

Anyone know which Bahamut that was anyway?


And I want to know is why the crap Aerith kept showing up!!!! She's dead. She wasn't acting like she was dead!!!! Why did she keep coming back?

[Odin's Lapdog]

cloud's ascencion gave me a geekasm and i haven't even played the game.

who cares of physics, it looks awesome

:o

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

um, dude? "Realistic" is the LAST word you want to use to describe the physics in this movie.

Finally saw it last night, and I did not care that much for the english voices, I'll be watching it in Japanese from now on. Cloud's was alright, but that was pretty much it for me, everyone else just sounded off in one way or another.

As for the movie itself: yeah, lacking in decent plot (why the hell did they kidnap the kids? anyone?) The wacky physics also took me out of it. This isn't Dragonball Z. I could stand for most of the jumping around, but that scene where Cloud rockets up into the air towards Bahamut and the others all leap after him, and give him a boost? THAT MAKES NO FRIKKIN SENSE!!!!!. There was also zero exposition, most people not familiar with the game won't understand a thing.

Yeah i know what you mean, i would rather they just stayed on the floor during the sword fights as then we could have seen the moves a lot better. I hated all the flying around in the Sephiroth fight.

[Tsunulia]

The only way I could justify all the flying around was that they were experiments and somewhat superhuman. So if you can see them as mutated projects then it kinda makes more sense.

[Elijya]

that might work for Cloud and Vincent, but not the others

[Tsunulia]

that might work for Cloud and Vincent, but not the others

and Sephiroth

but.......ya that's true................hmmmmm.................how do we justify that......

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Cloud wasnt a Soldier though, he never had the experiments, it was Zack.

[Tsunulia]

Cloud wasnt a Soldier though, he never had the experiments, it was Zack.

:o Cloud had MAKO eyes.....................there for *experiment*

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

:o Cloud had MAKO eyes.....................there for *experiment*

Watch the reminiss on the DVD, it was Zack in Soldier, not Cloud, even in the film it shows a flashback of Zack and Cloud:

Zack: " So you wanna be is Soldier huh? Well hang in there. Cloud took Zacks sword and used it on Sephirot and then Zack was killed by Shinra soldiers, after they both escaped to Midgar, then Cloud took his sword permanently.

[Elijya]

but Cloud WAS experimented on. After the Sephiroth incident, I think it was Hojo who messed with him and Zack at the Nibelheim mansion, until they escaped, and Zack dragged Cloud, who was a vegetable, to Midgar. Cloud had Jenova cells implanted in him, which was why he was drawn to the reunion, and why Sephiroth was able to control him

[Tsunulia]

but Cloud WAS experimented on. After the Sephiroth incident, I think it was Hojo who messed with him and Zack at the Nibelheim mansion, until they escaped, and Zack dragged Cloud, who was a vegetable, to Midgar. Cloud had Jenova cells implanted in him, which was why he was drawn to the reunion, and why Sephiroth was able to control him

HAHA!!!!!!!!!!! :D

2 - 1

See, I knew what I was talkin about. :)

[Elijya]

oh, and Vincent: what was with the scene where he first appeared? It made no sense. My fiance pointed out to me that when we first see him in the game, he flies out of his coffin, but he never does it again. Weird.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

but Cloud WAS experimented on. After the Sephiroth incident, I think it was Hojo who messed with him and Zack at the Nibelheim mansion, until they escaped, and Zack dragged Cloud, who was a vegetable, to Midgar. Cloud had Jenova cells implanted in him, which was why he was drawn to the reunion, and why Sephiroth was able to control him

Didnt remember that bit, it wasnt in the reminiss, i remember Cloud being a vegetable in the back of the van, but i thought that was after they both escaped from the Sephiroth incident.

[Elijya]

it was. After the Sephiroth incident, they were both wounded and recovered by Shinra, who experimented on them in the basement of Shinra Mansion. THAT'S where they escaped from.

[Tsunulia]

oh, and Vincent: what was with the scene where he first appeared? It made no sense. My fiance pointed out to me that when we first see him in the game, he flies out of his coffin, but he never does it again. Weird.

Vincent should of done one of his limit breaks :( those things were awesome in the game

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

it was. After the Sephiroth incident, they were both wounded and recovered by Shinra, who experimented on them in the basement of Shinra Mansion. THAT'S where they escaped from.

Dont, remember that bit at all, it was nearly 10 year since i have played but why wasnt it in the reminiscense on the DVD? You seem to know what you are talking about though so i'll trust your judgement. This can only make me enjoy the movie more!!!!

[Elijya]

Hey, it was a big, complex game, nothing wrong with not remembering EVERYTHING. My memories a little fresher since my fiance played through it again in '03/'04 or thereabouts, and I watched most of the game again then.

[HUMAN]

This is why they should make a movie of the first game.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Vincent should of done one of his limit breaks :( those things were awesome in the game

I know they were great, the way they used to attack everyone, Vincent was my second favourite character behind Cloud in FFVII, it was great to see his conribution to the Bahamut fight.

[Elijya]

This is why they should make a movie of the first game.
of this calibre CGI? Even if they cut out all the side-quests, random battles, and half the plot, that would still be a ten hour movie, and cost $500 million dollars

[Elijya]

I know they were great, the way they used to attack everyone, Vincent was my second favourite character behind Cloud in FFVII, it was great to see his conribution to the Bahamut fight.
Vincent was cool CHARACTER, but I didn't care for his LBs since you lost control of him, and also his stats were pretty weak

my team was always Cloud, Tifa, and Cid

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hey, it was a big, complex game, nothing wrong with not remembering EVERYTHING. My memories a little fresher since my fiance played through it again in '03/'04 or thereabouts, and I watched most of the game again then.

Ok thanks for correcting me, i like gaining more knowledge about things like this. I might have to play it again, just to enjoy the movie that bit more. I've just started VIII again because that was the one i got least involved with.

[Tsunulia]

my teams were

Cloud, Tifa, Aerith (til she died)

then it was Cloud, Tifa, Vincent (cuz he usually got 2 shots in)

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Vincent was cool CHARACTER, but I didn't care for his LBs since you lost control of him, and also his stats were pretty weak

my team was always Cloud, Tifa, and Cid


Mine was Cloud, Vincent and Cid, though i liked Red as well.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

One other thing that slightly bugged me was that why Cloud was so afraid of Sephiroth, when Cloud beat him to a pulp at the end of FFVII.

[TheVileOne]

One other thing that slightly bugged me was that why Cloud was so afraid of Sephiroth, when Cloud beat him to a pulp at the end of FFVII.
He didn't seem very scared at the end.

Part of it is that Sephiroth's like Cloud's doppleganger. He's sort of an embodiment of his fears and despair.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He didn't seem very scared at the end.

Part of it is that Sephiroth's like Cloud's doppleganger. He's sort of an embodiment of his fears and despair.

Yeah i know Sephiroth put him through a lot before he beat him in FFVII, but when Cloud first sees him in AC, he looks scared and jumps away.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah i know Sephiroth put him through a lot before he beat him in FFVII, but when Cloud first sees him in AC, he looks scared and jumps away.
Because its freaking Sephiroth man!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Because its freaking Sephiroth man!

Ha ha yeah i know, he is a complete badass, and a great character. Werent Vincent and Sephiroth related in some way in the game?

[Elijya]

Vincent was once a Turk, and was in love with Lucrecia, who was married to Professor Hojo. When Lucrecia became pregnant, Hojo injected the fetus with Jenova Cells. That baby became Sephiroth. When Vincent tried to intercede, he was deemed a nuisance, and experimented on, which is why he's able to transform into monsters. So the connection was Vincent was in love with the woman who gave birth to Sephiroth.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Vincent was once a Turk, and was in love with Lucrecia, who was married to Professor Hojo. When Lucrecia became pregnant, Hojo injected the fetus with Jenova Cells. That baby became Sephiroth. When Vincent tried to intercede, he was deemed a nuisance, and experimented on, which is why he's able to transform into monsters. So the connection was Vincent was in love with the woman who gave birth to Sephiroth.

Jesus, how do you remember all this stuff!!!LOL. I mean i consider myself to have a very good memory and i cant remember all that. Good on you though. So that means Vincent is like twice the age of Sephiroth, weird. Vincent is potentially just as powerful as Cloud or Sephiroth though IMO as well.

[Elijya]

I've played through the game twice and watched it a third time. I've read thousands of comics, watch hundreds of movies and polayed dozens of games, and weirdly find it's easier to remember events and trivia from all these things than events from my own life. My fiance always says "remember my friend so and so," or "remember when we went here/did this?", and I never do and she always has to remind me. Yet for some reason I can tell you that Wolverine #50 is the first appearence of Shiva, a series of Robots designed by the Weapon X program to hunt down rogue agents, which included Wolverine, Sabretooth, Maverick, Silver Fox, Mastodon, and John Wraith - from the top of my head even though I haven't read the comics these facts were revealed in in over ten years, and I didn't even like them that much :p

[Timstuff]

Hmm... Is it at all possible that Sephiroth is Vincent's son? :confused:

[War Party]

It seemed Cloud was more shocked to see Sephiroth rather than scared.

[SapphirePrima]

I haven't played FFVII will this movie make sense to me?

[War Party]

I haven't played FFVII will this movie make sense to me?

The DVD has a feature called "Reminiscence of Final Fantasy" It pretty much tells you the story of the game using the game footage.

[XwolverineX]

Waitta sec, why is this " Anime " ??

[Elijya]

because it's animated, and it's from Japan

[XwolverineX]

because it's animated, and it's from Japan

I don't even know what anime is? Wow I'm so noob.

[Elijya]

Seriously, you don't know?

[Tsunulia]

I don't even know what anime is? Wow I'm so noob.

0.o .................................I...........I.... ...I don't beleive this :(

Do you even live on Earth? :(

[Elijya]

here, this will explain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime

[Tsunulia]

Good ol' wiki. Always there when you need it :D

[SapphirePrima]

The DVD has a feature called "Reminiscence of Final Fantasy" It pretty much tells you the story of the game using the game footage.



Thanks.

[HUMAN]

So if the three "children" and the remaining remnants of Sephiroth joined together, Sephiroth would've been perfect?

[TheVileOne]

Not sure it entirely works like that. It seems what the "remnants" were lacking were the Jenova cells.

I dunno, Loz and Yazoo didn't seem like types who could transform into Sephiroth :) .

[Nebins]

Saw in Japanese. Have yet to see it in english but I'll probably go out and buy it

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not sure it entirely works like that. It seems what the "remnants" were lacking were the Jenova cells.

I dunno, Loz and Yazoo didn't seem like types who could transform into Sephiroth :) .


Yeah, i think it was only Kadaj who had the physical make up of Sephiroth.

[chosen1]

this movie was awesome

I don't know why they won't make a sequel to this game it would make so much money!:confused:

[Odin's Lapdog]

becuase you'll get millions of game player nagging about how the oringal was better and there's one thing worse than nagging comic book fans and that's nagging gamers...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If they were to make FFVII into a trilogy and did it like AV, it would rival LOTR. Each movie would have to be 3 hours long as well, but it could be amazing.

[Corinthian™]

If they were to make FFVII into a trilogy and did it like AV, it would rival LOTR. Each movie would have to be 3 hours long as well, but it could be amazing.
DBZ fans and FFVII fans share a lot in common, and that is their tremendous ability for having such a deliciously bad taste


yes, I said it. I hate FFVII Fans and DBZ fans. Especially the American ones:down

[Tsunulia]

Did anyone here ever beat the Emerald and Ruby Weapon dragons in the game?

[TheVileOne]

DBZ fans and FFVII fans share a lot in common, and that is their tremendous ability for having such a deliciously bad taste


yes, I said it. I hate FFVII Fans and DBZ fans. Especially the American ones:down

I'm going to use my breaker limit on you Corinthian.

[Corinthian™]

I'm going to use my breaker limit on you Corinthian.
I will throw you tools at your face:mad:

[Tsunulia]

I will throw you tools at your face:mad:

That makes absolutely no sense at all -.-

[Corinthian™]

That makes absolutely no sense at all -.-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_%28Final_Fantasy_VI%29

he throws...

and tell me if a monkey wrench in the face doesn't hurt:mad:

[Johnny Drama]

I actually just bought Advent Children and as a Final Fantasy fan for over 15 years I can say that I haven't been this satisfied since I played FF8.
FF8...Now thats what they need to make a movie of!

[chosen1]

Did anyone here ever beat the Emerald and Ruby Weapon dragons in the game?

I beat all except for that Dude Underground.

I had all my characters maxed out and I still could'nt beat him.:confused:

What's the secret?

[James"007"Bond]

DBZ fans and FFVII fans share a lot in common, and that is their tremendous ability for having such a deliciously bad taste


yes, I said it. I hate FFVII Fans and DBZ fans. Especially the American ones:down

You clearly know very little about both. Go watch the japanese DBZ.

[Corinthian™]

You clearly know very little about both. Go watch the japanese DBZ.
I probably watched DB and DBZ way before you did. DBZ is great. Watched it first in Spanish in mid 90's, then in English and then in Japanese.

I am a fan of FF series, and FFVI is the best one made. It had a better story and it ruled so many amounts of ass, and the first game of FF I played was FFVIII.

I know my stuff, it's just the fans that have tremendous bad taste.

FFVII will never rival LOTR... EVER!

[TheVileOne]

I don't place FFVII above Lord of the Rings. But I enjoy both. What's wrong with fans being passionate about FFVII? The game is seen as the favorite in the series and its probably the most popular one of all time.

[Corinthian™]

I don't place FFVII above Lord of the Rings. But I enjoy both. What's wrong with fans being passionate about FFVII? The game is seen as the favorite in the series and its probably the most popular one of all time.
which game is better, Ocarina or A Link to the Past?

There is your answer for FFVII

[mystic gohan]

o hey gus i bought this dvd today havent had a chance to watch it yet because i was watchin akira but do i need to have played any FF games in order to understand this?

[Jecht]

o hey gus i bought this dvd today havent had a chance to watch it yet because i was watchin akira but do i need to have played any FF games in order to understand this?
Hell yes.

[mystic gohan]

ahh damn well im gonna be totaly lost

[Tsunulia]

ahh damn well im gonna be totaly lost

Yes you will. :(

[mystic gohan]

any particular game i need to play to understand then ?

[Tsunulia]

any particular game i need to play to understand then ?

.................................................. ..............Final Fantasy VII

[mystic gohan]

o lol duh ok i think ill get it then thank you tsunulia

[Jecht]

...But, buy the whole series anyway. :up:

[Tsunulia]

o lol duh ok i think ill get it then thank you tsunulia

^o^ no prob :)

[mystic gohan]

lol maybe but let me start off with this one first i have got final fantasy X for PS2 i loved it but i got so far and then just got bored because i found it too tedius

[Tsunulia]

lol maybe but let me start off with this one first i have got final fantasy X for PS2 i loved it but i got so far and then just got bored because i found it too tedius

7 can get tedious as well, but if you work for a certain materia, the game will be alot easier.

[mystic gohan]

well ive heard such good things about the game and if it will help me understand the dvd and i may get some enjoymnt i have nothing to lose realy so ill give it a shot. thank you again

[Johnny Drama]

I loved the last fight betwen Cloud and Seph, I got goosbumps..

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I loved the last fight betwen Cloud and Seph, I got goosbumps..

I would have loved it more if they had stayed on the ground a bit longer, all the flying got annoying after a few minutes, Cloud isnt Superman, if they do another one i hope they make the fights a bit more grounded in reality.

[TheVileOne]

I would have loved it more if they had stayed on the ground a bit longer, all the flying got annoying after a few minutes, Cloud isnt Superman, if they do another one i hope they make the fights a bit more grounded in reality.

It's called Final Fantasy for a reason.

I liked the aerial element to their battle.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think the movie had enough fantasy in it without all the flying around.

Anyway its obvious there isnt gonna be a winner in this argument so we may as well give it up.

[TheVileOne]

I gave Vincent a call on his new cell phone. He said he's going to fly to your house, pick you up by your feet and fly you around for a long time :p .

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

LOL, Vincent is welcome round my house anytime, such a cool character. Though i would prefer Tifa and Yuffie to come round in full lesbo mood!!!!!

[Odin's Lapdog]

I would have loved it more if they had stayed on the ground a bit longer, all the flying got annoying after a few minutes, Cloud isnt Superman, if they do another one i hope they make the fights a bit more grounded in reality.
sephiroth was the only one flying

[Johnny Drama]

No way, the ariel combat made that last battle great. I loved it.
Chocobos and Moogles should have been in the movie, though...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

It looked like Cloud was flying as well to me, especially in the Shinra main building.

[Jecht]

No way, the ariel combat made that last battle great. I loved it.
Chocobos and Moogles should have been in the movie, though...
There was a brief scene with a Moogle, though. :D

[Nathan]

If you pay attention you notice that he jumps from wall to wall the entire time in the Shinra building.

[Johnny Drama]

And when he fights the dragon, he uses borrowed momentum from his team mates to fly, he dosen't do that on his own...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I know he borrowed from his team mates in the Bahamut fight. But in the forgotten city fight he jumps in the air and manages to stay there for a while before being hit back down onto a tree. And in the Sephiroth fight, he jumped from the bottom of the shinra main building to the top at least once. Those constitute flying to me.

[Johnny Drama]

he jumped from the bottom of the shinra main building to the top at least once. Those constitute flying to me.

Well, what the hell is else is he supposed do when you have been leveling up for 80+ hours?

[chosen1]

Well, what the hell is else is he supposed do when you have been leveling up for 80+ hours?

LoL you did that too huh?

lol when you look at the time meeter when you open the menu its maxed out 99:99:99 lol

[Johnny Drama]

LoL you did that too huh?

lol when you look at the time meeter when you open the menu its maxed out 99:99:99 lol

Hahaha, yeah. The time meter is their way of teasing us about how much of our lives we have wasted...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, what the hell is else is he supposed do when you have been leveling up for 80+ hours?

In the movie he hadnt, he only used materia in the forgotten city, it had been two years since the game, and he had been suffering a sickness for god knows how long. I dont think he was at that level at any point in the movie.

[Johnny Drama]

I seriousley beg to differ. His Materia was taken away, but that does not at all effect his physical condition that was built up in the original FF7, and the disease does not degrade physical attributes.

[Nathan]

And in the Sephiroth fight, he jumped from the bottom of the shinra main building to the top at least once. Those constitute flying to me.

He needed two jumps to get on top.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I seriousley beg to differ. His Materia was taken away, but that does not at all effect his physical condition that was built up in the original FF7, and the disease does not degrade physical attributes.

The desease did degrade physical conditions, didnt you see it affecting him in the 1st 2 fights with Jadaj and his gang.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He needed two jumps to get on top.

I've watched the movie five times now and i'm pretty sure its one, its after Sephiroth drops half the top of the building on him.

[Nathan]

I know which scene you mean, he needs two. Pay close attention. If you want I can put screens up.

Now... where the hell did I put my DVD?

[Johnny Drama]

Yeah dude, but it was just giving him painful shocks running through his body. He was still running on a full tank, but the breaks went in and out.

[TheVileOne]

I don't remember Cloud ever using materia in the movie.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'll check that scene out again Nathan, just to make sure, i may be wrong i dont know. And Gerard Way it did effect people physically, look at Rufus, he was in a wheelchair throughout.

[TheVileOne]

I'll check that scene out again Nathan, just to make sure, i may be wrong i dont know. And Gerard Way it did effect people physically, look at Rufus, he was in a wheelchair throughout.

Rufus was faking if you don't remember.

[Tsunulia]

Rufus was faking if you don't remember.

Well it could be an on-off disease. Denzel was in bed being cared for at the beginning and then he started running around like there was nothing wrong with him. :confused: I really don't think the effects of the disease were completely thought out. :(

[TheVileOne]

Rufus was acting like he was handicapped because of the disease or the explosion, he clearly wasn't.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Rufus was faking if you don't remember.

He wasnt though, he was back in the wheelchair at the end after Sephiroth was defeated and it started raining and when the rain hit his hand it started glowing green like all the other deseased kids.

[The Hurricane]

Havent got the DVD yet but tell me is it worth buying?

[Tsunulia]

Havent got the DVD yet but tell me is it worth buying?

The Japanese version is worth buying, but the English version is worth a rent.

[Elijya]

yeah, but the DVD comes with both the English and Japanese

[Tsunulia]

yeah, but the DVD comes with both the English and Japanese

Yeah but at least the Japanese one doesn't give you the choice of listening to it in English :O

[Elijya]

:rolleyes:

[The Hurricane]

Sweet when its a buy for me :) Thanks guys

[Elijya]

Hurricane - did you actually play the game?

[TheVileOne]

He wasnt though, he was back in the wheelchair at the end after Sephiroth was defeated and it started raining and when the rain hit his hand it started glowing green like all the other deseased kids.
His little display showed me he didn't really need the wheelchair.

Also, if you guys like Advent Children wait until you see Dirge of Cerebus.

[Nathan]

His little display showed me he didn't really need the wheelchair.

Well, we can't be sure to what extend Rufus was hurt. And what he displayed during the movie wasn't really enough to proof whether or not he would be able to go all day without the wheelchair.

After all, all he did was to show that he could stand up for a couple of seconds and to fall down a building.

[TheVileOne]

Well, we can't be sure to what extend Rufus was hurt. And what he displayed during the movie wasn't really enough to proof whether or not he would be able to go all day without the wheelchair.

After all, all he did was to show that he could stand up for a couple of seconds and to fall down a building.

He just pops up and his face looks fine and he has the little gunfight.

He fell down to dodge Kadaj's little fireball thing.

[XwolverineX]

Does anyone know how to actually watch the film in english. It stay's on Japanese for me. :confused::confused::down:down

[Tsunulia]

Does anyone know how to actually watch the film in english. It stay's on Japanese for me. :confused::confused::down:down

1. Did you buy the English one?
2. Change the languages on the language menu.
3. If that doesn't work, then your player may be broke.

My player broke on me about a year after I got it :(

[XwolverineX]

Anyways, Can someone tell me a bit more about FF7? Like, with Jenova and Sephiroth's clones and how they're all connected

[Tsunulia]

Anyways, Can someone tell me a bit more about FF7? Like, with Jenova and Sephiroth's clones and how they're all connected

Have you played the game?

[XwolverineX]

Have you played the game?

nope

[Tsunulia]

nope

Will you ever? Cuz I don't wanna spoil anything if you plan to play it.

[TheVileOne]

Does anyone know how to actually watch the film in english. It stay's on Japanese for me. :confused::confused::down:down

Assuming you got the US R1 release, go to languages on the main menu and select English language/audio.

Or on your DVD remote, press the audio button so you can switch the audio dialogue from Japanese to English, whatever.

[XwolverineX]

Will you ever? Cuz I don't wanna spoil anything if you plan to play it.


No, I won't.

[XwolverineX]

Assuming you got the US R1 release, go to languages on the main menu and select English language/audio.

Or on your DVD remote, press the audio button so you can switch the audio dialogue from Japanese to English, whatever.


That worked, but when I did it from the Menu, it didn't. :confused:

[TheVileOne]

Anyways, Can someone tell me a bit more about FF7? Like, with Jenova and Sephiroth's clones and how they're all connected

Watch the Reminiscence feature on Disc 1. It's a synopsis of the entire FF7 game.

Jenova is a meteorite/organism that came to Midgar thousands of years ago.

The cells were injected by a scientist named Hojo into his pregnant wife, Lucrecia. The baby she gave birth to was Sephiroth.

The Silver Haired Men were remnants of Sephiroth. But for whatever reason they didn't have the Jenova cells to complete them into Sephiroth's.