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Dark Knight88
04-20-2006, 07:32 AM
Josh Lucas in talks for Batman?
Posted by Clint Morris on April 20, 2006
The internet was partly responsible - since they flew the flag for his casting, way before he was on the studio’s radar - for Warner going with Christian Bale for “Batman Begins”, and now, you online casting whizzes may have just helped cast the sequel.
Josh Lucas tells MTV (http://www.mtv.com/) that he has been in talks with Warner about playing the role of D,A Harvey Dent in the “Batman” sequel. This all started when internet scuttlebutt suggested Lucas (“The Hulk”) was linked to the role – which he wasn’t. It seems your suggestion/BS/rumour/speculation/ led to such a meeting.
"I had heard that, when I was doing press on 'Glory Road,' " Lucas said of rumours he would play Dent (and alter-ego Two-Face) in the sequel/s. “Some of the people started asking about that, and [back] then I didn't know anything about it. I went and talked to Warner Bros. about it, because they're making it, and obviously I would love to do it. I think it's a great character. I like that someone could go from being bad to good and back and forth and light and dark, but also I think [series director Christopher Nolan] did an amazing job. And Christian Bale did an amazing job too. Christian and I did 'American Psycho' together, so it'd be like a reunion of sorts." ...
If it comes off, you all get 10%.


Curtosy of moviehole.net, i know around half the time their rumors are complete B/S but what ya think?

ultimatefan
04-20-2006, 08:16 AM
I wouldn´t mind getting the 10%... I never perceived Lucas as being a big "fan favorite" for the part... It was always more names like Jude Law, Guy Pearce or Ed Norton.

Milkman95
04-20-2006, 08:37 AM
This was a rumor that started a while ago, but now it seems it could be a little more solid. I guess I wouldn't mind him in the role.............

Casius--J
04-20-2006, 09:05 AM
Sounds interesting, i could see him in the role as harvey dent. I'll be watching to see how this develops.

The Chairman
04-20-2006, 10:21 AM
I'm not a fan of Josh Lucas at all. This part should go to Liev Schreiber. If it doesn't, then a mistake will be made.

kytrigger
04-20-2006, 10:25 AM
I'm still wary on this just because it's from Moviehole. If other more credible websites confirm this, then I will start to believe it.

Milkman95
04-20-2006, 10:51 AM
Well, in all fairness, I thought Nolan made a mistake with Murphy and Oldman, but I was proven wrong. I'm sure if Nolan chooses Lucas there's a reason, and you shouldn't doubt Nolan in these matters.........

ultimatefan
04-20-2006, 11:10 AM
It looks like there´s some meat to this rumor, both BOF and SuperheroHype! are running the story.

Didn´t Josh Lucas play Talbot in Hulk? If it was him, I hope his performance is more subtle, cuz he was pretty over-the-top in that. Granted, the CHARACTER was over-the-top, he had hands down the worst dialogue in the movie and also the worst scene - what was he thinking, poking Banner with a taser to make him Hulk out without any protection?

DA Harvey Dent
04-20-2006, 11:12 AM
I think he'd make a pretty decent Dent. I wouldn't be upset if he got it.

Stringer
04-20-2006, 11:13 AM
On the frontpage it says Lucas would really like the role.

Two-Face
04-20-2006, 11:24 AM
No that's Liev Schreiber's role I rather have Guy Pearce or Justin Theroux who started in American Psycho with Bale

TheFalcon
04-20-2006, 11:40 AM
I prefer Liev Schreiber or Guy Pearce, but I don't think Lucas is a bad choice.

Two-Face
04-20-2006, 11:48 AM
here is the same rumor news at BOF
http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

RUMOR: “Josh Lucas is a candidate for Harvey Dent/Two Face.”
JETT’S TAKE: Unlikely. When asked about it, Lucas said he nothing about the rumor and would certainly be interested. On the other hand, so did Paul Bettany when asked about The Joker rumors and Liev Schreiber when asked about playing Dent.
UPDATED: It has now been reported that Lucas is confirming he met with Warner Bros. about playing Dent. Upgraded to "Possible."


http://www.batman-on-film.com/opinion_jett_sequel_trueorfalse.html

Dcknight
04-20-2006, 11:53 AM
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/gloryroad/assets/wallpapers/Glory_Wallpaper2_1280.jpg

he could be great!

Brian2887
04-20-2006, 12:03 PM
He's not my top choice for the role, but dude can act. I wouldn't mind if he played Dent.

However, no where in the article does it say Lucas is being considered. It said he wants the role, and went to WB and talked to them. It doesn't say WB invited him, it says he just went there. He could want the role the same way Sam Rockwell wants to play the Joker. That doesn't mean either will get a part, though.

Two-Face
04-20-2006, 12:07 PM
I seen him star in American Psycho and he was murdered by Bateman (Bale)

Lucas was good in it.

ToddIsDead
04-20-2006, 12:12 PM
Cool news. I wouldn't mind him nabbing the role. Ofcourse we're still a ways off from casting.

Gold Samurai
04-20-2006, 12:13 PM
bruce wayne- your making me angry

harvey dent- oh really

bruce- you wouldn't like it when i'm angry

;)

Gometron
04-20-2006, 12:17 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/lievparade1.jpg

CrimsonMist
04-20-2006, 12:19 PM
I seen him star in American Psycho and he was murdered by Bateman (Bale)


no he wasnt.

The Kid
04-20-2006, 12:23 PM
Lucas dammit. -_-

Eddie Dean
04-20-2006, 12:27 PM
I would be very disappointed if Dent went to Josh Lucas.

Two-Face
04-20-2006, 12:31 PM
no he wasnt.

Yes he was hit by hammer.

ToddIsDead
04-20-2006, 12:37 PM
Yes he was hit by hammer.
No, he was one of Bateman's friends who he didn't kill.

Two-Face
04-20-2006, 12:41 PM
ok then, Who was murdered by Bateman in his house?

ToddIsDead
04-20-2006, 12:44 PM
Paul, I think. With the ax, while listening to "Hip to Be Square" by Huey Lewis and the News.

Two-Face
04-20-2006, 12:52 PM
ok I I get it now, thanks.

BatMatt
04-20-2006, 12:53 PM
ok I I get it now, thanks.
Yes Paul Allen, played by Jerod Leto. It was an axe to the face

"V"
04-20-2006, 01:31 PM
I'd prefer Joaquin Pheonix or Guy Pearce.

co2
04-20-2006, 01:40 PM
Lucas isn't an objectionable choice. I think he would be pretty good. As good as anyone else I can think of.
He obvisiously won't be in a Hulk sequel...if there is a Hulk sequel.

Boom
04-20-2006, 01:49 PM
Please let this happen. Please.

metr0man
04-20-2006, 02:00 PM
as long as it's not "Billy Zane: The Sequel" (that would be Liev Shrieber)

ultimatefan
04-20-2006, 02:08 PM
BTW, am I the only one who thinks Bale going philosophical on Huey Lewis and The News right before cutting a guy in pieces with his axe is one of the coolest psycho killer moments in film history?

ToddIsDead
04-20-2006, 02:10 PM
Oh, definitely. It was great.

javi1024
04-20-2006, 02:37 PM
i dont know if i would like him. im not a big fan of him. ive only seen him in Hulk and he played a prick. i guess if Nolan did want him, it would be for good reasons, but id still rather see Liev Schrieber play him.

L0ngsh0t
04-20-2006, 02:44 PM
No that's Liev Schreiber's role I rather have Guy Pearce or Justin Theroux who started in American Psycho with Bale

it's not liev schreiber's role...it's like he is the greatest actor of all time, and the only one who could own this performence...i like lucas as an actor, i think he could be a cool two face, i'm not sure if he would be the best, but i will roll with nolan on any casting call cause i was skeptical of many in the first movie and they all worked out great..

now on schreiber

without IMDBing him here is a slecet filmogrophy of his magnificent performances

Scream
Scream 2
Scream 3
Phantoms
Kate and Leopold
the oil storm
the sum of all fears
the hurrican
the manchurian candidate

not the greatest filmography of all time, and the movies that are exceptionally good where both Denzel Washington vehicles... i'm not saying he is a bad actor, but by no way is Paul Newman

josh lucas can be just as good a two face/harvey dent as schreiber, as would guy peirce be a pretty cool two face...it's not just Schreiber's role, i would say he has less then a 5 percent chance of playing two-face

Anjow1060
04-20-2006, 03:10 PM
wow Longshot, do you know of Jett over at BOF at all? Dude is quite reliable and won't leak us the info until he has good sources and confirmation. He has been quoted as listing a souce saying "The role is Schrieber's if he wants it". So it's actually Schrieber percent, as to say: How much does he want it?

As for lucas, he could pull it off. I've seen him in a few things, and i like him as an actor. I just don't feel like he has the look of dent/face. Where as schrieber is the pinnacle of what i think he should look like. And Schrieber has some great acting skills. Watch Scream 2 when he's talking to Sindey on the stairs on how he goes from almost loving/nuturing to vengefull/threatening in a split second. It's insane how well he pulls it off.

Dark Knight
04-20-2006, 03:29 PM
nah....i don't want Lucas in the sequel.....he doesn't impress me.

What rumours about him as Dent that caused a big stir for him?? I don't remember hearing anythjing about this guy as a big time potential Dent candidate. I have been hearing Guy Pearce, Liev Schrieber, Gyllenhaal and Law.....not Lucas? Ugh..

I would prefer the real rumoured candidates ahead of him anyday.....

No to Lucas! :down

GoldGoblin
04-20-2006, 03:45 PM
This was a rumor that started a while ago, but now it seems it could be a little more solid. I guess I wouldn't mind him in the role.............

^I guess I wouldn't mind either.

L0ngsh0t
04-20-2006, 03:58 PM
[quote=Anjow1060]Watch Scream 2 [quote]

lol that is all you need to say when justifying anything associated with that movie

he is not marlon brando the guy is just average at best, that's all, im not even saying i don't want him as two face, its just he isn't that great that if he is two face the movie is going to suck

i don't this guy at BOF who leaks reliable info, granted, i don't care that much

i will leave you this, you go watch scream 2 and try not throwing up at ****ty filmmaking, and performances. then go watch phantoms and schrieber play a believable scared police officer(note the hint of sarcasim) and then go watch him play off of denzel washington for 3 movies, and not doing anything that impressive, with it being almost impossible to look good playing off of denzel washington

he's not that great

you sir have no legitimacy with judging acting when you are pulling out Scream 2 as your resources...go watch primal fear and ed norton, now that is how a real actor would act a spilt personality disorder that harvey dent deals with

liev schrieber is good, yes, would i like him if he was chosen as twoface, yes, are there better? definatly

Super_Ludacris
04-20-2006, 04:03 PM
Lucas aint really a bad choice

Dark Knight
04-20-2006, 04:23 PM
I would be very disappointed if Dent went to Josh Lucas.


so would I. Lucas over actors like Pearce, Gyllenhaal or Schrieber?? No thanks....

L0ngsh0t
04-20-2006, 04:32 PM
Schrieber and Gyllenhall are not that good of actors, watch cinema out side of those summer blockbuster you guys think are movies

sum of all fears, scream, phantoms, manchurian candidate aren't movies

jarhead isn't a movie(although donnie darko is sweet, it isn't because of gyllenhall it is because of the religeon and time traveling aspects of it)

josh lucas isn't the greatest actor ether but i would certainly put him on par with those two

guy peirce kicks ass though

Dark Knight
04-20-2006, 04:50 PM
Schrieber and Gyllenhall are not that good of actors, watch cinema out side of those summer blockbuster you guys think are movies

sum of all fears, scream, phantoms, manchurian candidate aren't movies

jarhead isn't a movie(although donnie darko is sweet, it isn't because of gyllenhall it is because of the religeon and time traveling aspects of it)

josh lucas isn't the greatest actor ether but i would certainly put him on par with those two

guy peirce kicks ass though


I disagree.

Schrieber has improved as an actor......Ransom, Sum of All Fears, and Manchurian Candidate, were good roles for him. Regardless of what kind of movies they were.

Gyllenhaal was good in Darko, good in Jarhead and I'm sure he did a solid job in Brokeback.

Guy Pearce is a solid....

Lucas? Geez....he is like one of those actors that you just can't stand to look at.....I mean for me personally I refuse to to see any movie he is in. I saw him by accident in Psycho.....never saw Alabama with Reese....refused to waste my time and money on Stealth.....he was horribly over the top in Hulk.....after Hulk....that did it for me. Never want to see a movie with that guy in it again. If they go with the unknown actor (Hulme) as Joker.....then I would hope Nolan and the producers get a bigger name to play Dent.

Shoemeister
04-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Schrieber and Gyllenhall are not that good of actors, watch cinema out side of those summer blockbuster you guys think are movies

sum of all fears, scream, phantoms, manchurian candidate aren't movies

jarhead isn't a movie(although donnie darko is sweet, it isn't because of gyllenhall it is because of the religeon and time traveling aspects of it)

Once again, your posts continue to offend intelligent people everywhere.


http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/lievparade1.jpg

IAWTP!!!

The Fallen
04-20-2006, 08:39 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/lievparade1.jpg

I'm in there... somewhere! Leiv is my top choice, but Lucas could to the role justice. Will I boycott the film if Lucas gets the role? Nope. I'll warm to it over time, and learn to accept it... COS IT'S FRIGIN' BATMAN!

Ronny Shade
04-20-2006, 08:43 PM
Has Josh Lucas ever not been southern?

L0ngsh0t
04-20-2006, 09:24 PM
I disagree.

Schrieber has improved as an actor......Ransom, Sum of All Fears, and Manchurian Candidate, were good roles for him. Regardless of what kind of movies they were.

Gyllenhaal was good in Darko, good in Jarhead and I'm sure he did a solid job in Brokeback.

Guy Pearce is a solid....

Lucas? Geez....he is like one of those actors that you just can't stand to look at.....I mean for me personally I refuse to to see any movie he is in. I saw him by accident in Psycho.....never saw Alabama with Reese....refused to waste my time and money on Stealth.....he was horribly over the top in Hulk.....after Hulk....that did it for me. Never want to see a movie with that guy in it again. If they go with the unknown actor (Hulme) as Joker.....then I would hope Nolan and the producers get a bigger name to play Dent.


i'm not even sold on lucas i would probobly choose schrieber too, fact is, i don't think ether is the greatest, i've said it before i will role with nolan who ever he choses

the reason i don't like schrieber, and i have this on another thread, he has shown 0 range in his career, and the one thing about Dent/Two face, is he is basically Jekly and Hyde, you have to have range to play this role, period. i don't think lucas has the range needed ether, but certianly know that schreiber dosen't


as for getting a bigger name for Dent, i'm a fan of getting the best actor possible, like a ed norton, and letting him go crazy with the role...why get an actor just cause he looks like the role when you can get a incredible actor and he can transform himself into the roll

Ronny Shade
04-20-2006, 09:32 PM
Since when does Edward Norton have a huge range?

The Fallen
04-20-2006, 09:57 PM
^^ Yeah! Doesn't he play a creepy little bastard in every movie he's in?

mcflytrap
04-20-2006, 09:57 PM
I could see it happening...

Gamma Ray
04-20-2006, 10:19 PM
I don't like Lucas as a actor and I would prefer someone else in the role.

StorminNorman
04-20-2006, 10:32 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/StorminNormanTho/Schrieber.jpg

The Chairman
04-20-2006, 11:44 PM
I don't like Lucas as a actor and I would prefer someone else in the role.

:up:

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 12:09 AM
[quote=Anjow1060]Watch Scream 2 [quote]

lol that is all you need to say when justifying anything associated with that movie

he is not marlon brando the guy is just average at best, that's all, im not even saying i don't want him as two face, its just he isn't that great that if he is two face the movie is going to suck

i don't this guy at BOF who leaks reliable info, granted, i don't care that much

i will leave you this, you go watch scream 2 and try not throwing up at ****ty filmmaking, and performances. then go watch phantoms and schrieber play a believable scared police officer(note the hint of sarcasim) and then go watch him play off of denzel washington for 3 movies, and not doing anything that impressive, with it being almost impossible to look good playing off of denzel washington

he's not that great

you sir have no legitimacy with judging acting when you are pulling out Scream 2 as your resources...go watch primal fear and ed norton, now that is how a real actor would act a spilt personality disorder that harvey dent deals with

liev schrieber is good, yes, would i like him if he was chosen as twoface, yes, are there better? definatly

First of all, I'm not getting into a spat with you man, take a chill pill and relax on that. As far as Scream 2 goes, I like it. I'm not saying it's a good movie for everyone, but i like it. There are in fact no good/bad movies. Just movies that people like and movies people don't like. You don't like it. Thats nice. The movie wasn't the subject of the guy's acting skills though. You can't judge an actor by the movies he's in, but rather by how he does in them. For example - Tom Hanks sucks IMO, but he picks all those "oscar worthy" movies and so he's respected. Look even furthermore at John Travolta, one of the best actors out there and he did some pretty bad movies for a while, doesn't take away from his skills though. Schriber did an awesome job in Scream 2 and I like him for two face. I can see him as face. And as far as not liking Jett goes, you're not much of a Bat-movie fan if you don't count on him. Jett knows what he's doing, he's not some lame fanboy who runs to the press everytime someone tells him something. He's quite respectable and does his job of running his site on par.

All that said. Schrieber > Lucas.

Ronny Shade
04-21-2006, 12:51 AM
First of all, I'm not getting into a spat with you man, take a chill pill and relax on that. As far as Scream 2 goes, I like it. I'm not saying it's a good movie for everyone, but i like it. There are in fact no good/bad movies. Just movies that people like and movies people don't like. You don't like it. Thats nice. The movie wasn't the subject of the guy's acting skills though. You can't judge an actor by the movies he's in, but rather by how he does in them. For example - Tom Hanks sucks IMO, but he picks all those "oscar worthy" movies and so he's respected. Look even furthermore at John Travolta, one of the best actors out there and he did some pretty bad movies for a while, doesn't take away from his skills though. Schriber did an awesome job in Scream 2 and I like him for two face. I can see him as face. And as far as not liking Jett goes, you're not much of a Bat-movie fan if you don't count on him. Jett knows what he's doing, he's not some lame fanboy who runs to the press everytime someone tells him something. He's quite respectable and does his job of running his site on par.
You rule.

The Riddler
04-21-2006, 01:45 AM
guy pearce, josh lucas.

it's all good.

The Fallen
04-21-2006, 02:06 AM
[quote=L0ngsh0t][quote=Anjow1060]Watch Scream 2

First of all, I'm not getting into a spat with you man, take a chill pill and relax on that. As far as Scream 2 goes, I like it. I'm not saying it's a good movie for everyone, but i like it. There are in fact no good/bad movies. Just movies that people like and movies people don't like. You don't like it. Thats nice. The movie wasn't the subject of the guy's acting skills though. You can't judge an actor by the movies he's in, but rather by how he does in them. For example - Tom Hanks sucks IMO, but he picks all those "oscar worthy" movies and so he's respected. Look even furthermore at John Travolta, one of the best actors out there and he did some pretty bad movies for a while, doesn't take away from his skills though. Schriber did an awesome job in Scream 2 and I like him for two face. I can see him as face. And as far as not liking Jett goes, you're not much of a Bat-movie fan if you don't count on him. Jett knows what he's doing, he's not some lame fanboy who runs to the press everytime someone tells him something. He's quite respectable and does his job of running his site on par.

All that said. Schrieber > Lucas.

That post = awesomeness. Here... have a caramel :up:

Batman
04-21-2006, 07:53 AM
I would love this if it meant he was being considered. Whether the role went to Liev Scrieber or Lucas, I definatley wouldn't be disappointed. He's my top choice, truth be told.

Super_Ludacris
04-21-2006, 07:55 AM
Yeah Lucas could probably do ok with it

Milkman95
04-21-2006, 08:49 AM
Lucas would be fine, but I'd prefer Schreiber or Owen.

To go a little outside the box, and he might be too old now, but Denzel Washington would be fantastic in the role as well.

ultimatefan
04-21-2006, 09:24 AM
Since when does Edward Norton have a huge range?
Watch him in People Vs Larry Flint and Red Dragon and then in 25th Hour or American History X... Entirely different characters.

ragdus
04-21-2006, 09:29 AM
Norton is one of the greatest actors around. And don't forget his performance in Primal Fear. That alone shows what he is capable of.

Super_Ludacris
04-21-2006, 11:40 AM
Yeah I like Ed Norton and Denzel's acting style.

Cinemaman
04-21-2006, 11:41 AM
I think Lucas is not bad actor and would be good Two-Face also.

L0ngsh0t
04-21-2006, 12:49 PM
[quote=L0ngsh0t][quote=Anjow1060]Watch Scream 2

First of all, I'm not getting into a spat with you man, take a chill pill and relax on that. As far as Scream 2 goes, I like it. I'm not saying it's a good movie for everyone, but i like it. There are in fact no good/bad movies. Just movies that people like and movies people don't like. You don't like it. Thats nice. The movie wasn't the subject of the guy's acting skills though. You can't judge an actor by the movies he's in, but rather by how he does in them. For example - Tom Hanks sucks IMO, but he picks all those "oscar worthy" movies and so he's respected. Look even furthermore at John Travolta, one of the best actors out there and he did some pretty bad movies for a while, doesn't take away from his skills though. Schriber did an awesome job in Scream 2 and I like him for two face. I can see him as face. And as far as not liking Jett goes, you're not much of a Bat-movie fan if you don't count on him. Jett knows what he's doing, he's not some lame fanboy who runs to the press everytime someone tells him something. He's quite respectable and does his job of running his site on par.

All that said. Schrieber > Lucas.


no there are movies that suck, and scream 2, and about 8 Liev Schrieber movies suck

tom hanks does not suck, Hanks does **** that in phillidelphia, catch me if you can, road to perdition, and green mile, that Scream boy could even be worthy to suck his dick..

you know what, if you where to take all of the batman movies together, you are right, i am not a batman movie fan, they suck, they're terrible, after those first 4 scharades, i gave up on even batman comics for awhile...but when i saw nolans masterpiece it brought me back to why i liked batman in the first place, dark dangerous, but still cool. and i do not want these batman movies to go back to where they started

in my opinion the reason i am not huge on ether lucas or schrieber, and the reason i have been pimping guys like ed norton, is, you have to top Tommy Lee Jones, who of the many blunders in that movie, tommy lee jones was as psycho of a two face as it gets, schrieber has proven **** that he can even come close to that leval that TLJ brought it too...

don't even try to compare schrieber with hanks norton depp, not even travolta, who basically only has himself a handful of good movies since the late 80's, schrieber is mearly average, a good bit player, he can play the cop who dies and everyone feels sorry for, he can play scared, but he is not hanks, he is not norton, he isn't even vince vaughn, he is good enough to be a supporting character in the worst horror movie that anyone has ever put good cash into, he's OK, HE'S NOT GOD

he isn't the end all only option for two-face.

MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY ACTORS > Schrieber

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 01:01 PM
[quote=Anjow1060][quote=L0ngsh0t]


no there are movies that suck, and scream 2, and about 8 Liev Schrieber movies suck

tom hanks does not suck, Hanks does **** that in phillidelphia, catch me if you can, road to perdition, and green mile, that Scream boy could even be worthy to suck his dick..

you know what, if you where to take all of the batman movies together, you are right, i am not a batman movie fan, they suck, they're terrible, after those first 4 scharades, i gave up on even batman comics for awhile...but when i saw nolans masterpiece it brought me back to why i liked batman in the first place, dark dangerous, but still cool. and i do not want these batman movies to go back to where they started

in my opinion the reason i am not huge on ether lucas or schrieber, and the reason i have been pimping guys like ed norton, is, you have to top Tommy Lee Jones, who of the many blunders in that movie, tommy lee jones was as psycho of a two face as it gets, schrieber has proven **** that he can even come close to that leval that TLJ brought it too...

don't even try to compare schrieber with hanks norton depp, not even travolta, who basically only has himself a handful of good movies since the late 80's, schrieber is mearly average, a good bit player, he can play the cop who dies and everyone feels sorry for, he can play scared, but he is not hanks, he is not norton, he isn't even vince vaughn, he is good enough to be a supporting character in the worst horror movie that anyone has ever put good cash into, he's OK, HE'S NOT GOD

he isn't the end all only option for two-face.

MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY ACTORS > Schrieber


Ok see now, this is gonna be a battle. I tried to act like a mature adult about it and at least lower the hostility level, but apparently you haven't graduated high school yet. Do the words "Thick as a brick" mean anything to you? They should cuz that whats you are man. I was not saying Schieber was anywhere near travolta's skills, i was using Travolta as an example of an actor. And as far as tommt lee jone's two face, which i think blew worse than Jim Carrey's riddler, you have no leverage on that. If you wana go on "sucky movies" as far as acting skills go, and you got ur head so far up TLJ's ass why don't you go watch men in black II or that movie i hated where he was protecting cheerleaders? And looking at your mentality towards cinema (cuz the burton batmovies were good, especially 89) you'll prolly be watching full screen versions of the movies b/c you don't fully comprhend what makes "good" cinema. I did not say Schrieber was end all picks for Two-face, he's just MY fav pick of the bunch along with a couple other actors who are not Lucas. If you want to keep **** talking me, go right ahead little boy, but I'm leaving this as my "end-all" post to you because I'd rather DISCUSS actors as opposed to act like an immature high school kid who can't agree to disagree.

The Chairman
04-21-2006, 01:16 PM
[quote=Anjow1060][quote=L0ngsh0t]


no there are movies that suck, and scream 2, and about 8 Liev Schrieber movies suck

tom hanks does not suck, Hanks does **** that in phillidelphia, catch me if you can, road to perdition, and green mile, that Scream boy could even be worthy to suck his dick..

you know what, if you where to take all of the batman movies together, you are right, i am not a batman movie fan, they suck, they're terrible, after those first 4 scharades, i gave up on even batman comics for awhile...but when i saw nolans masterpiece it brought me back to why i liked batman in the first place, dark dangerous, but still cool. and i do not want these batman movies to go back to where they started

in my opinion the reason i am not huge on ether lucas or schrieber, and the reason i have been pimping guys like ed norton, is, you have to top Tommy Lee Jones, who of the many blunders in that movie, tommy lee jones was as psycho of a two face as it gets, schrieber has proven **** that he can even come close to that leval that TLJ brought it too...

don't even try to compare schrieber with hanks norton depp, not even travolta, who basically only has himself a handful of good movies since the late 80's, schrieber is mearly average, a good bit player, he can play the cop who dies and everyone feels sorry for, he can play scared, but he is not hanks, he is not norton, he isn't even vince vaughn, he is good enough to be a supporting character in the worst horror movie that anyone has ever put good cash into, he's OK, HE'S NOT GOD

he isn't the end all only option for two-face.

MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY ACTORS > Schrieber

Tommy Lee Jone was awful as Two-Face.

The Chairman
04-21-2006, 01:17 PM
To go a little outside the box, and he might be too old now, but Denzel Washington would be fantastic in the role as well.

Definitely. Denzel is my second choice.

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 01:29 PM
Yeah denzel would be my top choice as two-face if it was still in fan-boy rumor mode. But now it's been bumped up into "insider information mode" and Schrieber and Lucas seem to be leading the pack right now. But if denzel got it I'd be VERY happy.

Milkman95
04-21-2006, 01:31 PM
Yup, Denzel is just superb in anything he does - Remember the Titans and Man on Fire were excellent.

tamron
04-21-2006, 01:40 PM
Between the two, I'd much rather see Liev get the role. Josh Lucas doesn't impress me as a actor. I find him to usually be the weakest link in many of his films.

Norton is great, he can handle any role he wants, but if he were going to be in the Batman series, I'd prefer him as Riddler.

I love Denzel, but I see no need to deviate from the comics in this instance. There are more than enough good actors that look the part of Harvey Dent as he has traditionally been presented.

And as much as I'd like Guy Pearce as Harvey, his 'anti-commercial film' stance makes me think he'd never touch this series, even with Nolan involved.

ToddIsDead
04-21-2006, 01:40 PM
Denzel has the intensity and the pure acting talent to be able to do a great Dent. Too bad that'll never happen.

Side Note: I always wondered how Billy Dee Williams would have played Two-Face. Do you think he would have been good?

The Chairman
04-21-2006, 01:46 PM
Side Note: I always wondered how Billy Dee Williams would have played Two-Face. Do you think he would have been good?

Yeah, I guess BDW would've done alright.

Super_Ludacris
04-21-2006, 01:47 PM
Denzel would Pwn the Dent role crazy style

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 01:49 PM
Denzel has the intensity and the pure acting talent to be able to do a great Dent. Too bad that'll never happen.

Side Note: I always wondered how Billy Dee Williams would have played Two-Face. Do you think he would have been good?

Prolly better than Tommy Lee. Ya gotta keep in mind, should he had become Two-face it most likley would have been under Burton's direction. And you saw what his sick and twisted mind did to the penguin. Don't get me wrong, I love batman returns as a Burton Film, but not as a Bats film. But back on par, I think dent+burton would have made for a immensley dark two face which I'd love to see as opposed to an eccentric over the top 2face. If you've watched the b89 and returns commentary, Burton is obsessed with physcology and duality........which leads me to wonder...........why didn't he do 2face in returns?

Super_Ludacris
04-21-2006, 01:51 PM
He wanted to in Batman 3, but I was said to see no Dent in BR especially when Billy Dee wanted to come back to the role. I heard somewhere the inital idea was to use Dent instead of Max Schreck

ToddIsDead
04-21-2006, 01:52 PM
Yeah, I always wished that Burton would have hung around for the third and done Two-Face. I think it would have been cool.

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 01:57 PM
he was supposed to do the role instead of walken as schrek. I think it was the studio that chose to exclude him. I do like Walken though, guy is a walking masterpiece. WHAT ARE YOU RITA!? AN ANGEL!? SENT FROM ABOVE!? I LOVE PASTA FAJOOLE! lol

tamron
04-21-2006, 02:01 PM
Yup, that's always been the rumor. Dent was supposed to be in the Shreck role, and the electrocution at the end would turn him into Two-Face, and leave hm with a mad-on for Bats.

Ronny Shade
04-21-2006, 02:19 PM
Prolly better than Tommy Lee. Ya gotta keep in mind, should he had become Two-face it most likley would have been under Burton's direction. And you saw what his sick and twisted mind did to the penguin. Don't get me wrong, I love batman returns as a Burton Film, but not as a Bats film. But back on par, I think dent+burton would have made for a immensley dark two face which I'd love to see as opposed to an eccentric over the top 2face. If you've watched the b89 and returns commentary, Burton is obsessed with physcology and duality........which leads me to wonder...........why didn't he do 2face in returns?That is a great way to put it.

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 04:45 PM
Gracias Ronnie. I like your style. :batman:

Warhammer
04-21-2006, 05:24 PM
I never thought of Lucas for Two-Face.
No a bad choice if you ask me, but I still would prefer Schrieber.

raybia
04-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Curtosy of moviehole.net, i know around half the time their rumors are complete B/S but what ya think?


Raybia in talks for Batman?Posted by Clint Morris on April 20, 2006
The internet was partly responsible - since they flew the flag for his casting, way before he was on the studio’s radar - for Warner going with Christian Bale for “Batman Begins”, and now, you online casting whizzes may have just helped cast the sequel.
Josh Lucas tells MTV that he has been in talks with Warner about playing the role of D,A Harvey Dent in the “Batman” sequel. This all started when internet scuttlebutt suggested Lucas (“The Hulk”) was linked to the role – which he wasn’t. It seems your suggestion/BS/rumour/speculation/ led to such a meeting.
"I had heard that, when I was doing press on 'Glory Road,' " Lucas said of rumours he would play Dent (and alter-ego Two-Face) in the sequel/s. “Some of the people started asking about that, and [back] then I didn't know anything about it. I went and talked to Warner Bros. about it, because they're making it, and obviously I would love to do it. I think it's a great character. I like that someone could go from being bad to good and back and forth and light and dark, but also I think [series director Christopher Nolan] did an amazing job. And Christian Bale did an amazing job too. Christian and I did 'American Psycho' together, so it'd be like a reunion of sorts." ...
If it comes off, you all get 10%.


Its true!

Anjow1060
04-21-2006, 06:09 PM
Raybia in talks for Batman?Posted by Clint Morris on April 20, 2006
The internet was partly responsible - since they flew the flag for his casting, way before he was on the studio’s radar - for Warner going with Christian Bale for “Batman Begins”, and now, you online casting whizzes may have just helped cast the sequel.
Josh Lucas tells MTV that he has been in talks with Warner about playing the role of D,A Harvey Dent in the “Batman” sequel. This all started when internet scuttlebutt suggested Lucas (“The Hulk”) was linked to the role – which he wasn’t. It seems your suggestion/BS/rumour/speculation/ led to such a meeting.
"I had heard that, when I was doing press on 'Glory Road,' " Lucas said of rumours he would play Dent (and alter-ego Two-Face) in the sequel/s. “Some of the people started asking about that, and then I didn't know anything about it. I went and talked to Warner Bros. about it, because they're making it, and obviously I would love to do it. I think it's a great character. I like that someone could go from being bad to good and back and forth and light and dark, but also I think [series director Christopher Nolan] did an amazing job. And Christian Bale did an amazing job too. Christian and I did 'American Psycho' together, so it'd be like a reunion of sorts." ...
If it comes off, you all get 10%.


[B] Its true!



Doesn't mean we have to like it.

Super_Ludacris
04-21-2006, 06:48 PM
Lol!

Dark Knight
04-21-2006, 06:48 PM
Doesn't mean we have to like it.


Exactly. No to Lucas as Dent! :down

Mr. Socko
04-21-2006, 08:39 PM
Lucas for Dent :down please no.

ToddIsDead
04-21-2006, 08:41 PM
I'm indifferent to who plays Dent. I'll go along with who ever is cast.

Luthor Kain
04-22-2006, 10:09 AM
Lucas for Two-Face would be not be a bad choice. :up:

L0ngsh0t
04-22-2006, 03:15 PM
so here is my deal with the character of harvey dent two face, and why i am not hugely for ether schrieber or lucas

i see harvey dent's character as possibley a career defining character, and one in which is ineed of a power house performance, by a performer who is able to go from a D.A. who is all about justice, and getting the criminals, and such, then turning into the psychopath Two Face who is bent on revenge and such

i see this could closley resemble Robert Deniro's character in Taxi Driver, at one point he is worried about the saftey of the girl, and just wants to do good in life..and the next momment he is obsessed with the girl who dumped him, not leaving her alone, and then tries to kill the senetor, and kills 4 people in the span of like a minute...and in the end ends up like the good guy anyways...like that is close to the two face story

in no way have ether schrieber or lucas done anything that you could say is a Deniro like performance, and if you do there is a spot in the tenth level of hell waiting for you because you deserve, i honestly would like to see Deniro play two face-i know that will never happened, the before mentioned Denzel Washington, note that while most of you think two face looks like schrieber because of the long halloween, the original two face actually looks more like a denzel washington anyways

i just think it is a powerhouse character and you need a powerhouse actor to play it

Capt. Jack
04-22-2006, 03:52 PM
josh lucas sucks i really hope he doesn't get the role of Dent that would blow IMO

Dark Knight
04-22-2006, 06:07 PM
i just think it is a powerhouse character and you need a powerhouse actor to play it


^I agree to a certain extent. Especially if Hulme winds up getting the Joker role. Then it would be a smart move by Nolan and producers to get a strong name actor of some name recognition as Dent and then becoming the tragic Two-Face. Guy Pearce would be a nice pick...especially since he has worked with Nolan before......and of course Gyllenhaal would be good also. Schrieber would be good if they go with a lesser name for Dent.

Casting an actor like Lucas would be all wrong IMO....

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 06:16 PM
^I agree to a certain extent. Especially if Hulme winds up getting the Joker role. Then it would be a smart move by Nolan and producers to get a strong name actor of some name recognition as Dent and then becoming the tragic Two-Face. Guy Pearce would be a nice pick...especially since he has worked with Nolan before......and of course Gyllenhaal would be good also. Schrieber would be good if they go with a lesser name for Dent.

Casting an actor like Lucas would be all wrong IMO....

Woah woah woah, lets not go throwing that name into this discussion. I would NEVER ever want Gyllenhaal in any Batman movie. I was rooting for Bale hardcore back when Jakes name was thrown around for Bruce. He's got too much of a boy-ish look to me. No matter how old the guy is, he doesnt look older than 17 to me. It'd be just as bad as Katie Holmes as a DA. He's a great actor IMO, but totally wrong for this franchise. I'd rather have Josh lucas as Dent, at least he looks old enough. Overall though, Schrieber is my main pic. Acting skills + the Look + his voice. Just does it for me. But Gyllenhall.......not a chance in hell.

Dark Knight
04-22-2006, 06:47 PM
Woah woah woah, lets not go throwing that name into this discussion. I would NEVER ever want Gyllenhaal in any Batman movie. I was rooting for Bale hardcore back when Jakes name was thrown around for Bruce. He's got too much of a boy-ish look to me. No matter how old the guy is, he doesnt look older than 17 to me. It'd be just as bad as Katie Holmes as a DA. He's a great actor IMO, but totally wrong for this franchise. I'd rather have Josh lucas as Dent, at least he looks old enough. Overall though, Schrieber is my main pic. Acting skills + the Look + his voice. Just does it for me. But Gyllenhall.......not a chance in hell.


Obviously Gyllenhaal maybe considered. Nolan and Goyer liked Gyllenaal for Batman and chances are, if Bale wasn't available....the role would have gone to him. Don't underestimate Gyllenhaals range. I could see him as Dent/Two-Face because Gyllenhaal can bring the intensity. I can't see him as a Joker candidate at all however....

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 07:09 PM
Everytime i look at him all i can see is the west virginian kid from October Sky.

L0ngsh0t
04-22-2006, 07:57 PM
i think gyllenhaals fatal flaw is i believe he is about 10 years to young for dent, i could be wrong, but no matter how old he is, he still looks about 21-24 years old..i put schrieber and lucas on the same level as me not being thrilled about ether

of the stong contenders i think guy peirce would be the best, he's done some cool stuff, and has worked with nolan before

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 09:04 PM
Guy Pierce would make a fantastic dent and just something by the way he looks makes me think he could play oppisate Bale beautifully. Only thing is, i'd like for him to be beefed up a little bit. In my mind Dent should look like he could go toe to toe with Bruce at any moment. I think Pierce is just too long in the face is what is making me think that. Acting skills though, he'd be great.

Keyser Sushi
04-22-2006, 09:57 PM
Denzel has the intensity and the pure acting talent to be able to do a great Dent. Too bad that'll never happen.

Side Note: I always wondered how Billy Dee Williams would have played Two-Face. Do you think he would have been good?

I always felt as though that was one of the biggest and most tragically missed opportunities of all-time. Billy Dee would've OWNED as Two-Face. I loved his portrayal of Dent in B'89, and I've seen Billy Dee play a villain before, he was very surprising as a SOB... I was suitably impressed. His potrayal of Dent in B'89 also showed his intensity and volatile temperament ("THIS FESTIVAL IS GOING FORWARD IF I HAVE TO GET A SHOTGUN AND GET PEOPLE THERE MYSELF!!!" lol) and I think Billy Dee would've kicked serious ass as Two-Face.

I love Tommy Lee but he was HORRIBLE in that role - not entirely his fault, but he was mis-cast from the start. Billy Dee was a far superior choice. I'll always wonder what might have been...

Anjow1060
04-22-2006, 10:06 PM
Billy Dee would have been good i think too, especially with Burton behind it. I don't think TMJ was mis-cast, just mis-directed. I could have seen him pull off a really godo dent/face if there was a better direction.

Mr. Socko
04-22-2006, 10:12 PM
I agree, Tommy Jones was just mis-directed. He could have played a great Two Face.

But Billy Dee would have done a great job aswell.

I say we kill Schumacher

L0ngsh0t
04-23-2006, 03:43 AM
i couldn't agree with you more about the Tommy Lee Jones part, and i am sure about ohh, everyone agrees with you on the Schumacher part

Two-Face
04-23-2006, 07:57 AM
I been saying this long-time that if BF was directed like Burton's or Nolan's Batman film TLJ would been great Two-Face but Schumacher.....

ultimatefan
04-23-2006, 08:57 AM
I agree, Tommy Jones was just mis-directed. He could have played a great Two Face.

But Billy Dee would have done a great job aswell.

I say we kill Schumacher
Yes, with the right script and direction, Tommy Lee could have been a great Two-Face, and I dare to say George Clooney could have been a decent Bruce/Batman.

The Chairman
04-23-2006, 10:47 AM
Yes, with the right script and direction, Tommy Lee could have been a great Two-Face, and I dare to say George Clooney could have been a decent Bruce/Batman.

After much thought, despite looking closest to the charatcer (the animated one), I don't think Clooney had the proper Bats aura. I always thought that if he hadn't already been Batman, he would've made a great Superman.