View Full Version : The 8 Months Between X2 and X3
Avalanche
04-20-2006, 07:59 AM
Kinberg or Penn stated recently that though they weren't entirely sure, as an exact time frame was never given, around 8 or 9 months seemed like a sensible amount of time to have passed between X2 and X3.
I can't remember the exact quote, but no doubt someone will post hit here at some point.
My question is, what has happened in that period in between the end of X2 and the start of X3?
We know a couple of things.
The President:
Xavier's talk with the President at the end of X2 had a positive effect. The President changed his stance and instead sought a similar goal to Xavier, integrating mutants and humans in society. He set up the Department of Mutant Affairs (DMA) of which I presume Beast is a government official.
At some point, the President was replaced by his successor, who's mutant policy we're yet to discover. He appears to have kept the DMA.
The Danger Room:
This could well explain how many of the powers have advanced for X3. The characters have each had over half a year to hone their abilities in the Danger Room.
The Funeral:
We can presume that Jean's funeral would have occured within a month of her death, thus won't be shown in X3. Thus, the funeral is for another character, or for Jean's second death, should she die again.
vanillacyke
04-20-2006, 08:00 AM
Buy the official video game to find out.
Avalanche
04-20-2006, 08:07 AM
Buy the official video game to find out.
The video game will have an awful lot of events in that in fact didn't occur in the movie universe. What occurs in the game can't be taken as fact as to what happened in between X2 and X3 in the movies.
Aside from that, the game isn't out yet, and waiting for the game 'to find out' defeats the whole purpose of speculation.
vanillacyke
04-20-2006, 08:13 AM
The video game will have an awful lot of events in that in fact didn't occur in the movie universe. What occurs in the game can't be taken as fact as to what happened in between X2 and X3 in the movies.
Aside from that, the game isn't out yet, and waiting for the game 'to find out' defeats the whole purpose of speculation.
What're you talking about Penn said the game is what happened between the two films. And Ratner called me and told me personally that the game is cannon.
WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 08:14 AM
The video game will have an awful lot of events in that in fact didn't occur in the movie universe. What occurs in the game can't be taken as fact as to what happened in between X2 and X3 in the movies.
Aside from that, the game isn't out yet, and waiting for the game 'to find out' defeats the whole purpose of speculation.
It's been said that it's an arc between the two movies, so technically, it is a part of the movieverse. ;)
vanillacyke
04-20-2006, 08:17 AM
Yeah and was'nt it also said that they had to keep changing up the game cause the X3 script kept changing?
sirius14sho
04-20-2006, 08:18 AM
I really really hate the video game. I'm sorry but, all of a sudden, Iceman isn't doing all this cool stuff, he isnt even gunna do half that in X3. Plus, Deathstike is dead, plain and simple. The only goood thing is, they explain what happened to Nightcrawler.
WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 08:19 AM
I really really hate the video game. I'm sorry but, all of a sudden, Iceman isn't doing all this cool stuff, he isnt even gunna do half that in X3. Plus, Deathstike is dead, plain and simple. The only goood thing is, they explain what happened to Nightcrawler.
And you know that because...
vanillacyke
04-20-2006, 08:20 AM
I really really hate the video game. I'm sorry but, all of a sudden, Iceman isn't doing all this cool stuff, he isnt even gunna do half that in X3. Plus, Deathstike is dead, plain and simple. The only goood thing is, they explain what happened to Nightcrawler.
You have'nt seen the film you have no idea what Iceman's gonna do. Plus the Deathstrike fight is used as a get to know the game kinda level (so she does'nt come back to life), IGN said so.
vanillacyke
04-20-2006, 08:23 AM
And you know that because...
lol, look at us the dynamic duo of the boards.
Specter313
04-20-2006, 08:31 AM
The Funeral:
We can presume that Jean's funeral would have occured within a month of her death, thus won't be shown in X3. Thus, the funeral is for another character, or for Jean's second death, should she die again.
Not neccessarily. That ceremony looks more like a memorial instead of an actual funeral, and those can take place well after a person's death.
berzerko89
04-20-2006, 08:39 AM
we also know that arclight is a girl not a boy. lol.
Avalanche
04-20-2006, 09:51 AM
Not neccessarily. That ceremony looks more like a memorial instead of an actual funeral, and those can take place well after a person's death.
But wouldn't that have to occur at some sort of significant date? Likely a year from her death?
As for vanillacyke, whilst the game does explain some of the events that occur between X2 and X3, namely, the general outline, there will be things that happen that don't actually happen in the movieverse. Deathstryke and Sabretooth being alive and well are perfect examples of this. They'll be added for the purpose of fleshing out the character count in the game, not some arc to link in with the movieverse.
Likewise, we can expect the role of the Sentinels in the games to be significantly different to that in the movies.
WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 09:53 AM
But wouldn't that have to occur at some sort of significant date? Likely a year from her death?
As for vanillacyke, whilst the game does explain some of the events that occur between X2 and X3, namely, the general outline, there will be things that happen that don't actually happen in the movieverse. Deathstryke and Sabretooth being alive and well are perfect examples of this. They'll be added for the purpose of fleshing out the character count in the game, not some arc to link in with the movieverse.
Likewise, we can expect the role of the Sentinels in the games to be significantly different to that in the movies.
Well, Sabretooth was never declared dead... Deathstrike I can't explain, but somehow there will be one for her.
With the Sentinels, who knows. Maybe they get retired before the timeline of X3 begins.
Avalanche
04-20-2006, 09:57 AM
With the Sentinels, who knows. Maybe they get retired before the timeline of X3 begins.
Could well be the case. However, if the X-Men had been up against the Sentinels at some point, it would have a massive bearing on X3. There would be the looming threat. Discussion of how they'd had to take them on. Right from the get go. I just can't see this happening. The movie will likely forget any reference in the game to Sentinels and start from scratch.
WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 09:59 AM
Could well be the case. However, if the X-Men had been up against the Sentinels at some point, it would have a massive bearing on X3. There would be the looming threat. Discussion of how they'd had to take them on. Right from the get go. I just can't see this happening. The movie will likely forget any reference in the game to Sentinels and start from scratch.
Well, the X-Men obviously do have the designs for the Sentinels if they're facing one in the DR. The game is the best explanation for that scenario.
OncomingStorm
04-20-2006, 09:59 AM
we also know that arclight is a girl not a boy. lol.
I really don't get of that's relevant or funny...?
vanillacyke
04-20-2006, 10:00 AM
But wouldn't that have to occur at some sort of significant date? Likely a year from her death?
As for vanillacyke, whilst the game does explain some of the events that occur between X2 and X3, namely, the general outline, there will be things that happen that don't actually happen in the movieverse. Deathstryke and Sabretooth being alive and well are perfect examples of this. They'll be added for the purpose of fleshing out the character count in the game, not some arc to link in with the movieverse.
Likewise, we can expect the role of the Sentinels in the games to be significantly different to that in the movies.
I told you they are there to get to know the game they are'nt part of the story. GEEEEZZZ. And again they said IT TAKES PLACE BETWEEN THE TWO FILMS!
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:04 PM
isn't alkali lake being built into a city? on the game website it says something about things changing around alkali lake or something like that. and there is a picture of buildings being constructed...
EnSabahNur
04-20-2006, 05:06 PM
the video game?
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:07 PM
isn't alkali lake being built into a city? on the game website it says something about things changing around alkali lake or something like that. and there is a picture of buildings being constructed...
I wouldn't say being built into a city, but from what we've seen of the game it's my guess that they're rebuilding the facility and turning it into a Sentinel factory.
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:07 PM
yah
Exploding Boy
04-20-2006, 05:09 PM
Well, the X-Men obviously do have the designs for the Sentinels if they're facing one in the DR. The game is the best explanation for that scenario.
Iceman could be fighting the Sentinel in the DR in the game.
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:11 PM
Iceman could be fighting the Sentinel in the DR in the game.
That's possible, but there's also pictures of Nightcrawler fighting one too... they look to be the main type of bad guy in the game...
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:16 PM
I wouldn't say being built into a city, but from what we've seen of the game it's my guess that they're rebuilding the facility and turning it into a Sentinel factory.
so do you think that in the game its going to be constructed and demolished all in one? because we dont see any of that in the trailer.
EDIT: how big is alkali lake?
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:18 PM
so do you think that in the game its going to be constructed and demolished all in one? because we dont see any of that in the trailer.
EDIT: how big is alkali lake?
If I understand you correctly, yes. The government rebuilds the Alkali Lake facility and unleashes Sentinels on the world, and it's up to the X-Men to go back and destroy the base again.
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:19 PM
yeah you understood right...and on their way, they have to get the cerebro pieces. thats the main objective of the game.
CapBeerCino
04-20-2006, 05:20 PM
Well, Sabretooth was never declared dead... Deathstrike I can't explain, but somehow there will be one for her.
With the Sentinels, who knows. Maybe they get retired before the timeline of X3 begins.
Neither was toad... But Deathstrike is pretty much done imo...
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:21 PM
yeah you understood right...and on their way, they have to get the cerebro pieces. thats the main objective of the game.
Right, right, I forgot about that.
Ok, so they go back to get the equipment and discover the base is being rebuilt :p
WorthyStevens
04-20-2006, 05:22 PM
Neither was toad... But Deathstrike is pretty much done imo...
I know, that's why I said I couldn't explain why she's there. :p
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:22 PM
hehe yes yes. that's pretty dumb though. isnt the government on the x-men's side? why would they destroy the base and then in x3 they are all good friends with them?
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:29 PM
hehe yes yes. that's pretty dumb though. isnt the government on the x-men's side? why would they destroy the base and then in x3 they are all good friends with them?
Who says they're good friends? At the end of X2, all the X-Men did was make President McKenna aware that not all mutants are evil terrorists, some are just the victims of people like Col. Stryker.
In response, McKenna created the Department of Mutant Affairs to give mutants a voice in the government. It looks like the X-Men still retain their independence from the government, but who knows what's going to happen with this new president.
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:30 PM
but then the army is on their side too....hmmm i dunno
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:33 PM
but then the army is on their side too....hmmm i dunno
Not necessarily. It appears that at the end of X3, Magneto attacks the army with his Brotherhood, and knowing how powerful Magneto is, the X-Men step in to help defend humanity.
It's looking like the X-Men defend the army rather than them being allies.
Nell2ThaIzzay
04-20-2006, 05:34 PM
The Funeral:
We can presume that Jean's funeral would have occured within a month of her death, thus won't be shown in X3. Thus, the funeral is for another character, or for Jean's second death, should she die again.
It's in the beginning.
Kinberg stated that the movie ends on a positive note, with an outlook of hope for the future.
A funeral at the end of the movie for a fallen comrade would not give that sense of hope, and be a positive ending.
Even with the lapse in time, it very well could be a memorial for Jean. Afterall, Kinberg also stated that the death of Jean Grey is still very fresh in everyone's minds.
imaperson2
04-20-2006, 05:35 PM
OH!!! i just wanna play the game already and watch the movie. i hate having these questions in my head.
Avalanche
04-20-2006, 05:38 PM
It's in the beginning.
Kinberg stated that the movie ends on a positive note, with an outlook of hope for the future.
Well that just means the funeral isn't the last thing to see us out. It could be at any other point in the film. It doesn't necessarily have to be right at the beginning just because it's not going to be right at the end.
FieryBalrog
04-20-2006, 05:50 PM
I dont think the events in the game are actually happening in the movie. Too many problems.
Halcohol
04-20-2006, 05:54 PM
I dont think the events in the game are actually happening in the movie. Too many problems.
They're not happening IN the movie. The movie won't make any references to events in the game at all.
However, the game is part of canon, which means that the game was created to mesh perfectly with X2 and X3. It'll simply add to the experience, that's all.
X3 will tell a completely different story from the game, so fear not.
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