SteveDeKnight

[avidreader]

I was looking where to post this, but I think we're going to get a few tidbits from Mr. DeKnight so he might as well have his own thread.

I see his made his way over to Sweet. :)

http://lanaclark.suddenlaunch2.com/index.cgi?board=LnC&action=display&num=1145576447

I liked your entry on his Blog Triplet. :up:

[triplet]

I liked your entry on his Blog Triplet. :up:

Hmmm... I wish he had replied to it. :(

Oh, well.

[Serene]

I think it's cool that he's reaching out to the fans in various forums.

If nothing else, it's good P.R.

[Super_Ludacris]

He's gonna be in for a shock if he lurks at certain Smallville sites lol

[Lara]

The Buffy writers did this stuff all the time and were used to the hate. I guess it started all nice then became how it is now with all the constant complaining. In other words he knows exactly what he's in for.

[Serene]

He's made a couple of revealing comments about the S5 DVD's.

I meant to copy a few to post here, but I forgot. LOL.. Off the top of my head, he did say that he was recording commentary to Splinter with James Marsters (he didn't mention Tom though :().. and there was a comment about another ep that was getting commentary, but I'll have to look that up again. Maybe Cindy can find it before I get back from work - it's on his myspace.

[triplet]

He's made a couple of revealing comments about the S5 DVD's.

I meant to copy a few to post here, but I forgot. LOL.. Off the top of my head, he did say that he was recording commentary to Splinter with James Marsters (he didn't mention Tom though :().. and there was a comment about another ep that was getting commentary, but I'll have to look that up again. Maybe Cindy can find it before I get back from work - it's on his myspace.

It was Thirst, I believe....

[avidreader]

Yeah, it was Thirst. He was doing it with Al/Miles and Ken Horton I believe.

I wonder, since he's obviously on writing hiatus, if he's been asked to do this by TPTB or whether its something he's doing himself.

I really liked the post he made at Sweet. He really knew how to reach out to the group over there and he just might help them understand why their loving couple cant be together all the time.

I think its a great PR idea.

[BaK]

Admitting Ageless sucked was kinda funny..

Did he explain anywhere how/where/what went wrong with that episode?

[Super_Ludacris]

Tell that dude what the hell is he doing with Lana? :(

[triplet]

Admitting Ageless sucked was kinda funny..

Did he explain anywhere how/where/what went wrong with that episode?

Yeah, he said that originally he was going to direct a "Night of Smallville Living Dead" episode and they'd changed the episode on him and he wasn't happy about it.

He did say that the exploding baby wasn't his idea.... :D

[thebigtree95]

Did he say who changed it, whether it was Al/Miles or the network?

[avidreader]

Did he say who changed it, whether it was Al/Miles or the network?

I think it was a writer's room discussion. He regretted later on that he didnt fight for what he thought was a bad idea.

[BaK]

Yeah, he said that originally he was going to direct a "Night of Smallville Living Dead" episode
:eek:
seems like a good excuse..

I didn't really hate Ageless, but there was definitely something odd going on there, even when compared with any other episode..
and it ain't "exploding baby" either.. just don't know what it is, I guess..:)

[AgentPat]

:eek:
seems like a good excuse..

I didn't really hate Ageless, but there was definitely something odd going on there, even when compared with any other episode..
and it ain't "exploding baby" either.. just don't know what it is, I guess..:)I'm of similar opinion. I didn't abhor Ageless. It had some interesting elements, especially with Clark. Well, big surprise there; I *always* fixate on him. :p

DeKnight touched on some fascinating points, not the least of which was Clark's concern of never being able to have his own children *cough*SR*cough* Sorry - had something in my throat. I also really enjoyed the exchange between Clark and Jonathan when they were speculating that Evan might be like Clark - sent to Earth by his Kryptonian parents in order to survive its destruction. But that had already been tackled to a certain extent in "Visitor." The only thing that bugged me about the exploding baby concept (LOL) was its "empty" feeling at the end. I wanted to see something a little more... I dunno... "paranormal" there. But the kid just died. Meh. It was kind of pointless. Other than a few wardrobe continuity glitches, that's my only beef. There were FAR worse episodes in the series, IMHO. ;)

[avidreader]

I'm of similar opinion. I didn't abhor Ageless. It had some interesting elements, especially with Clark. Well, big surprise there; I *always* fixate on him. :p

DeKnight touched on some fascinating points, not the least of which was Clark's concern of never being able to have his own children *cough*SR*cough* Sorry - had something in my throat. I also really enjoyed the exchange between Clark and Jonathan when they were speculating that Evan might be like Clark - sent to Earth by his Kryptonian parents in order to survive its destruction. But that had already been tackled to a certain extent in "Visitor." The only thing that bugged me about the exploding baby concept (LOL) was its "empty" feeling at the end. I wanted to see something a little more... I dunno... "paranormal" there. But the kid just died. Meh. It was kind of pointless. Other than a few wardrobe continuity glitches, that's my only beef. There were FAR worse episodes in the series, IMHO. ;)

I actually thought it would have been better if the kid had been left as a kid and not transformed into a teenager. I wasnt able to connect with him when that happened. Whereas the little boy I could feel some emotion with.

I think Lana and Clark were thrown together too quickly as well. Why were they out late at night driving?

I agree on all your Clark points, I loved the scene on the porch with his parents. :up: :)

[Red X]

I agree on all your Clark points, I loved the scene on the porch with his parents. :up: :)

I liked that too.

[avidreader]

Today from Steve's Blog.


Thanks for the kind words. Loved writing Mercy all the way around. As for new powers, superbreath is high on the list. And it's a short list, since we've covered just about all of Superman's powers.

YAY! :up:

[AgentPat]

^^^

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

Well it's about freakin' TIME!!!

Thanks for the head's up, Avid! :up:

[avidreader]

^^^

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/worthy.gif

Well it's about freakin' TIME!!!

Thanks for the head's up, Avid! :up:

Your welcome. I wonder how soon? Could he make a mess when he blows out his birthday cake candles in Oracle? :D

[AgentPat]

Your welcome. I wonder how soon? Could he make a mess when he blows out his birthday cake candles in Oracle? :DAs funny as that would be to see, I imagine they'll write an entire episode around it like they usually do. There really is a LOT that they could do with such an ability for Clark. I think it's one of those powers that's underappreciated because nobody has been very creative with it, but it has a lot of potential.

[avidreader]

As funny as that would be to see, I imagine they'll write an entire episode around it like they usually do. There really is a LOT that they could do with such an ability for Clark. I think it's one of those powers that's underappreciated because nobody has been very creative with it, but it has a lot of potential.

I was only joking, as I'm sure you realised, but there are so many times when I can see Clark using that power if he had it.

Like you say they will write a whole episode around it and they've probably been waiting for the right story. Although an extra ability could come in handy with his upcoming battles.

[AgentPat]

I was only joking, as I'm sure you realized, but there are so many times when I can see Clark using that power if he had it.Oh, we've come up with quite a few funny reveals for superbreath. The B-day cake is just one of 'em.

Like you say they will write a whole episode around it and they've probably been waiting for the right story. Although an extra ability could come in handy with his upcoming battles.Well, no argument there. If the virus Lex is developing has Kryptonian origins, maybe it'll make Clark sneeze?

...Whoops! Sorry about the wall, Ma. But hey, we always needed a window there. Now we have one. :O

:D

[Brainiac 8]

You know what's interesting, I usually hate his writing. He does have some winners (Mortal, Onyx) but when he's off(Ageless, Tomb) he's really off.

I have to give him much respect for this effort though. How many writers of a show with such a opinionated fan base actually have the gall to face the masses as it were? His credo as a writer went up alot in my book.
I hope he listens and delivers some of the more thought out feedback to the writer's room. Maybe our say will make a difference, but probably not. When it deals with the bottom line, and the dollar sign, they will end up doing what they want anyway.:( :mad:

But bravo on his part.:up: :)

[smsvmos]

Some of the things that he can do with his Superbreath in an episode would be freeze one of the Lakes in SV to save a building of a burning forest. But how can he find out that he has that power?
(1) Blow away The Cake
(2) Freeze a cup of water
(3) Gets a cold in season 6

ect, ect...

[triplet]

You know what's interesting, I usually hate his writing. He does have some winners (Mortal, Onyx) but when he's off(Ageless, Tomb) he's really off.

From what he said about both of those on his blog, I don't think the problems with those episodes were entirely his fault....

He's blamed the different system on Smallville on a lot of the problems. The problems, he implied, that wouldn't have happened on the shows he'd worked on previously (BtVS and Angel).

Joss Whedon apparently gave the writers more control over the final product than Smallville does... Too bad too.

I wasn't a buffy or Angel fan, but my sis who is said that some of the best episodes from those shows were written by Steven...

As is the case here. Mercy is an extremely strong episode, probably one of my favorites.... Top Ten anyway. I shoulda scored it higher in the ranking thread...


I have to give him much respect for this effort though. How many writers of a show with such a opinionated fan base actually have the gall to face the masses as it were? His credo as a writer went up alot in my book.

I hope he listens and delivers some of the more thought out feedback to the writer's room. Maybe our say will make a difference, but probably not. When it deals with the bottom line, and the dollar sign, they will end up doing what they want anyway.:( :mad:

But bravo on his part.:up: :)

You should take a gander at his blog... The responses he's made so far are highly educational into the process, so I'm enjoying reading them...

BTW: you don't need to be a member of myspace to read his posts, just to reply to them.

[Brainiac 8]

From what he said about both of those on his blog, I don't think the problems with those episodes were entirely his fault....

He's blamed the different system on Smallville on a lot of the problems. The problems, he implied, that wouldn't have happened on the shows he'd worked on previously (BtVS and Angel).

Joss Whedon apparently gave the writers more control over the final product than Smallville does... Too bad too.

I wasn't a buffy or Angel fan, but my sis who is said that some of the best episodes from those shows were written by Steven...

As is the case here. Mercy is an extremely strong episode, probably one of my favorites.... Top Ten anyway. I shoulda scored it higher in the ranking thread...

I agree with you...Mercy was a great episode. Also one of my favorites from this season. I just didn't want to try and mention all of his I liked.:O

I agree with you though, great episode!




You should take a gander at his blog... The responses he's made so far are highly educational into the process, so I'm enjoying reading them...

BTW: you don't need to be a member of myspace to read his posts, just to reply to them.

I havn't really had time to yet, but I will check out his blogs soon. Like I said when it comes to the dollar sign, and what the producer's "Think" us fans want, they get the final say in the end. So we get trash like "Lucy" while probably much better ideas stay on the cutting room floor. They think we want skin instead of proper characterization. (I know that some want the skin, and I certainly don't cover my eyes, but that is not what holds a show.)

The actuall writers probably don't say a whole lot in argument because it doesn't hurt their wallets when a bad episode is made. I do still applaud DeKnight's efforts to reach the fans, and give them some insight into the process that is the "writer's room".

I just don't agree with corporate politics and I also don't agree with being forcefed what producer's think we want, when I think the writers could come up with much better stories.:mad:

Sorry, got into rant mode for an instant.:O

Still love the show though.:D

[triplet]

From what he's said, he would probably agree with you but I don't think I want to speak for him... I repect him more as a writer now that I've seen what he's said of the drek he's produced for Smallville.

He recognizes the problems and knows things shoulda been done differently, so I have hope that things will get better next year.

:up:

Hopefully no more Tombs and Hypnotics... *shudder*

[avidreader]

I thought his thoughts on Lana were interesting. Its been speculated across the board as to whether Lana has been aware of some of Lex's evil doings. Without coming right out and saying anything, he has basically implied that Lana should know better than to get into a relationship with Lex and that unfortunately for her she will probably learn her lessons the hard way.

Which has me wondering still as to what her exact motivations are.

[triplet]

Hmmm...

Interesting observations, avid... I didn't think of what he said in those terms, but I think you're right... makes me wonder too.

[avidreader]

Hmmm...

Interesting observations, avid... I didn't think of what he said in those terms, but I think you're right... makes me wonder too.

I'm holding onto a glimmer of hope that the beautiful sweet Lana couldnt possibly fall for Lex Luthor. :D


Anyway, I was reading a thread over at Sweet titled Craig from Ksite wants to know what you want, or something like that. In the Thread it says that Craig is doing this for "someone". Made me wonder if that "someone" was Steve DeKnight.

Here's what Craig said.

I'm collecting opinions for someone who's trying to get a hold of what the fans are thinking, and if the people at Sweet aren't represented it'll be awfully one sided. Whoever sees it would think Smallville is a secret title for the Chloe Sullivan Show

Mythica, I really liked your post, you hit so many things on the mark and I'm sorry if any of your past K-Site experiences have been bad ones. Wordy McWord on Non-Angst Clana. I think part of the issue anyone ever has with it is just that it's so depressing half the time - especially when they break up like six episodes in a row.

So yeah, if anyone turns it into a debate thread their posts will be deleted and there shall be a smack down I really appreciate your posting there... I promise it's not just a ploy to get people to come to the forum. And Rockamaniac thanks for letting people know.

I find it amusing that 90% of everyone all agrees that Grandma just isn't cutting it. Ugh at the anvils, too. It was especially painful last week, that whole "I want to meet a guy like Jonathan" thing. Lois should be made her own character, and quit with the foreshadowing or go away.

-- Craig

If you want to post your opinions on the matter, then you should go here.

http://kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55454

P.S. Can someone please tell me how to post a link using just one word?

[BaK]

Which has me wondering still as to what her exact motivations are.
I think they have done a pretty good job this season in hinting, explaining and building up to a point where a girl like her would start to have feelings for someone like Lex..
It's also possible that they somewhat slowed down/wavered this whole transformation to evil Lex - for her to still be able to see something good there - something the "rebound Smallville way" can take her to/put her in an ultimate "learn the hard way about truth and lies" situation..

Should she know better, of course, but hey, this just might be more "fun" storywise and Clark wise, at least for me..:)

[avidreader]

I think they have done a pretty good job this season in hinting, explaining and building up to a point where a girl like her would start to have feelings for someone like Lex..
It's also possible that they somewhat slowed down/wavered this whole transformation to evil Lex - for her to still be able to see something good there - something the "rebound Smallville way" can take her to/put her in an ultimate "learn the hard way about truth and lies" situation..

Should she know better, of course, but hey, this just might be more "fun" storywise and Clark wise, at least for me..:)

Good point. It is more fun this way, to have her learn the hard way that secrets and lies are not the be all and end all to life and happiness.

However, just reading through the posts over at Ksite, everyone wants a Lana that is let in on the secret.

[AgentPat]

...I find it amusing that 90% of everyone all agrees that Grandma just isn't cutting it. Ugh at the anvils, too. It was especially painful last week, that whole "I want to meet a guy like Jonathan" thing. Lois should be made her own character, and quit with the foreshadowing or go away.Who's "Grandma," what's this about "anvils," and WTF is he talking about when it comes to Lois and foreshadowing? Helllllllooooooo? Lois Lane is only the second most important character in the entire Superman mythos after Clark himself.

The hell? :mad:





As to DeKnight (the topic of this thread after all), I found a few more quotes from him that are interesting...

Regarding Mercy's elevator scene:

Ah, yes, the elevator. You know back in my early days, I wanted to be a biochemist. I loved science, and still do. So why would I write that Clark catches the elevator, even though I know in the real world it would still kill Martha and Lionel? One simple word:

MONEY.

That's right. The green stuff. The elevator idea was the brainchild of the director, James Marshall, and I think it was a brilliant addition. Originally, Clark was going to burst through a wall ABOVE the plummeting elevator, drop down on top, and slow it down with his bare hands. Unfortunately this proved to be way outside the budget. So we changed it Clark bursting through the wall at the bottom of the shaft, leaping up several stories, latching onto the bottom of the elevator, then again slowing it down with his hands before it hit bottom. Sadly, again too expensive with all the CGI.

So that's how it went from physically plausible to physically impossible. We have to work within the constraints of time and money, and sometimes logic gets sacrificed in the bloodletting.

Still kind of a cool moment, though, wasn't it?And Clark's confrontation with Lionel at the end:

That final scene was a blast to write. Originally, Clark's last line was "Stay away from my mother, or I'll show you how much damage a Kryptonian can really do." We thought that might be a little too much, so we toned it down just a hair.Regarding the S5 DVD:

Question: Do you know if Tom Welling will be doing any commentary this year? Perhaps for Reckoning or Fragile?

I'm not sure. It's hard for Tom to do commentary because we generally do them early now to get the DVDs out right around the time the new season premiers. That means Tom is either still working or is just recovering.

How's that for a none answer?

[avidreader]

Who's "Grandma," what's this about "anvils," and WTF is he talking about when it comes to Lois and foreshadowing? Helllllllooooooo? Lois Lane is only the second most important character in the entire Superman mythos after Clark himself.

The hell? :mad:

You should go and make a post, actually I'd really enjoy reading your post. Lois is really getting bad.

[AgentPat]

You should go and make a post, actually I'd really enjoy reading your post. Lois is really getting bad.Getting bad? How? She's not any more annoying than.... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tapeshut2.gif

[avidreader]

Getting bad? How? She's not any more annoying than.... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tapeshut2.gif

Dont worry she's getting it bad too.

There's no debating going on, its really just a place to express your likes, dislikes and wishes.

[BaK]

However, just reading through the posts over at Ksite, everyone wants a Lana that is let in on the secret.
Me too, and I beleive it still will be done in a trully amazing way, something that will outshine, build on, and make up for sort of a "letdown" Reckoning (to a lot) was..

[BaK]

Getting bad? How? She's not any more annoying than.... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tapeshut2.gif
Even Lucy was less annoying then her.. :)

[AgentPat]

Dont worry she's getting it bad too.LOL

Actually, I like the new direction for Lana. She *was* annoying (to me), but the dialog between her and Lex is a lot more crisp and interesting now. It's... I dunno... different. She still pisses and moans about Clark, but at least she's not doing it to his face any more. Well, not as much. :p The fact that Lex is playing her as much as he is genuinely interested in her (I see it as half and half) makes it MUCH more interesting. And Clark can FINALLY move on. Hallelujah. :up:

It's all good.

But seriously, who's "grandma?" I've never heard that before, and are the "anvils" just foreshadowing dialog? Like um... the stuff that Clark has been saying since the Pilot? Is THAT what Craig is moaning about? If so, I'm stunned. That's the best part about the show!

Well... that and TW of course. :O

[avidreader]

LOL

Actually, I like the new direction for Lana. She *was* annoying (to me), but the dialog between her and Lex is a lot more crisp and interesting now. It's... I dunno... different. She still pisses and moans about Clark, but at least she's not doing it to his face any more. Well, not as much. :p The fact that Lex is playing her as much as he is genuinely interested in her (I see it as half and half) makes it MUCH more interesting. And Clark can FINALLY move on. Hallelujah. :up:

I thought I could handle it, but I dont like Lana with Lex.


But seriously, who's "grandma?" I've never heard that before, and are the "anvils" just foreshadowing dialog? Like um... the stuff that Clark has been saying since the Pilot? Is THAT what Craig is moaning about? If so, I'm stunned. That's the best part about the show!

Well... that and TW of course. :O

I thought you were kidding. He's talking about Lois. I dont think Craig hides the fact that he thinks Lois would be more suitable as Clark's grandmother than his future wife.

Me too, and I beleive it still will be done in a trully amazing way, something that will outshine, build on, and make up for sort of a "letdown" Reckoning (to a lot) was..

I hope you're right.

[AgentPat]

I thought I could handle it, but I dont like Lana with Lex.Y'know, part of the reason I like her with Lex? This is gonna sound sadistic mind you, but I want to see her get burned (metaphorically), especially after that crack in Fade about not needing Clark to protect her, when just hours before, he intercepted a bullet headed straight for her pretty little head.

Yeah. I want to see her learn a painful lesson. Don't play with matches around rocket fuel. Clark warned her about not trusting Lex, and she equated that with a lack of trust of Clark. Owwwwch! That stung. It really, really did. When the show comes to an end, seeing her realize what she lost in Clark when he moved on will be the ultimate catharsis. It'll be Greek Tragedy at its best. I can't wait!!

I thought you were kidding. He's talking about Lois. I dont think Craig hides the fact that he thinks Lois would be more suitable as Clark's grandmother than his future wife.Gawd!

I KNEW there was a reason I avoided K-Site. I thought it was because of all the Buffy fans and the ridiculous Chloe-becomes-Lois theories.

Lois acts like that because it's in her character to be that way. Simple as that.

[Serene]

Damn... looks like I should start hanging around K-site more.
;)

[rumpuso]

Craig is a huge Allison Mack fan. Not sure if he's a proponent of that crazy theory running rampant on KSite and TWOP, but it wouldn't surprise me. So there are lots of subtle and not so subtle knocks about Lois as well as the writers beating the fans over the head with anvils, and finally how old (grandma) Erica looks. It's too bad people say things like that, but he isn't the only one over there saying things like that.

[Serene]

Y'know, part of the reason I like her with Lex? This is gonna sound sadistic mind you, but I want to see her get burned (metaphorically), especially after that crack in Fade about not needing Clark to protect her, when just hours before, he intercepted a bullet headed straight for her pretty little head.

Sure.. because you wouldn't expect someone to be angry at all at a boyfriend who recently broke up with her saying that he no longer loved her.

Maybe I was just dumped in more painful ways than some of you. ;) Anger is very typical, regardless of the good times that were shared in the past.

I just don't find her reaction so strange. It's disturbing, and very painful to see (trust me, as a Clana fan, it KILLS me more than those of you who are reveling in it) But as much as *we* know who he is and why he did it.. to her, he's just the ex-boyfriend who dumped her. For him to then presume to tell her who she should or shouldn't date is not advice that is going to be welcome with open arms at this point.

I don't know why she went over there in the first place anyway. That made no sense to me.

Yeah. I want to see her learn a painful lesson. Don't play with matches around rocket fuel. Clark warned her about not trusting Lex, and she equated that with a lack of trust of Clark. Owwwwch! That stung. It really, really did. When the show comes to an end, seeing her realize what she lost in Clark when he moved on will be the ultimate catharsis. It'll be Greek Tragedy at its best. I can't wait!!
Wow.. I never realized how much you hated her character.
If it's any consolation, I'm fairly sure you will be getting your wish on this one. There is no happy ending to be had for Clark and Lana, two or three eps top was it for them....

Ah, vell, moving on... bring on the Chlark. :-/

[Serene]

Who's "Grandma," what's this about "anvils," and WTF is he talking about when it comes to Lois and foreshadowing? Helllllllooooooo? Lois Lane is only the second most important character in the entire Superman mythos after Clark himself.

The hell? :mad:

But should she have that same importance in Smallville? I always thought one of the things that made this show special was that it paved its own path and wasn't a slave to the mythos. While this drives the fanboys absolutely insane.. I've always enjoyed the "elseworlds" quality of the show.

Do you want this to become another "Lois and Clark?" I don't.

I'd love to see this show make a progression, not so much to Metropolis.. but to an interim time focusing on Clark exploring the Planet and helping people on a personal, but global level.. touching base with regulars back home on occasion. Sort of in the same vein as "Birthright" only taken to a more extreme degree.

When Al and Miles call me up, that's what I'm voting for.

[Brainiac 8]

Y'know, part of the reason I like her with Lex? This is gonna sound sadistic mind you, but I want to see her get burned (metaphorically), especially after that crack in Fade about not needing Clark to protect her, when just hours before, he intercepted a bullet headed straight for her pretty little head.

Yeah. I want to see her learn a painful lesson. Don't play with matches around rocket fuel. Clark warned her about not trusting Lex, and she equated that with a lack of trust of Clark. Owwwwch! That stung. It really, really did. When the show comes to an end, seeing her realize what she lost in Clark when he moved on will be the ultimate catharsis. It'll be Greek Tragedy at its best. I can't wait!!

You know Pat, I agree with you. I have enjoyed the whole Clark/Lana thing up to season three. Since then though Lana many times has been overly harsh and mean to Clark when the worst thing he did to her was save her life time after time. Yes he has kept things from her, but it's all been to keep her safe, and we saw proof of that in "Reckoning". I think they just need to spill the beans about him to Lana and all the Lana/Clark angst that drags some of the show down will stop.

Lana really needs a taste of what she has been doing to Clark to realize that what he put her through is not so bad. I think that is where the story is heading too. When it happens though, I'll feel bad for her; no doubt.:(

Gawd!

I KNEW there was a reason I avoided K-Site. I thought it was because of all the Buffy fans and the ridiculous Chloe-becomes-Lois theories.

Lois acts like that because it's in her character to be that way. Simple as that.

Their bashing of Lois, I'm sure is because of the whole Chloe/Lois business. Having Lois there effectively kills their theory, and we can't have that, they've worked too hard on it.:rolleyes:

Personally, they have her their, so TV/comic continuity is destroyed already, so they just need to hook those two puppies up. I enjoy their witty banter much more than ANY conversation he has with Lana.:up:


But should she have that same importance in Smallville? I always thought one of the things that made this show special was that it paved its own path and wasn't a slave to the mythos. While this drives the fanboys absolutely insane.. I've always enjoyed the "elseworlds" quality of the show.

Do you want this to become another "Lois and Clark?" I don't.

I'd love to see this show make a progression, not so much to Metropolis.. but to an interim time focusing on Clark exploring the Planet and helping people on a personal, but global level.. touching base with regulars back home on occasion. Sort of in the same vein as "Birthright" only taken to a more extreme degree.

When Al and Miles call me up, that's what I'm voting for.

You know what, this is what I try telling comic loyalists constantly. It's an elseworlds tale, just like Birthright. We should enjoy the unique view into Superman they portray, it has been one heck of a ride so far. I haven't ever had one bad thing to say about their continuity choices they have made. I enjoy Lois and Lex being there, as well as his meeting heros he really shouldn't meet for years. It's all gravy! Great stuff!

I still call for a pre JLA hookup to take on the Kryptonians again. The two and Brainiac vs. Clark,Bart,AC, and Cyborg. How cool would that be?!?

[AgentPat]

Craig is a huge Allison Mack fan.Well, I like her too.

Wait... strike that. Lemme be more specific... I like Chloe. I wouldn't go out of my way to see Allison Mack in another show or movie, just like I wouldn't do that for Erica, Michael, KK or any of the other cast, with one exception.

That's not to say I don't like the actors and actresses. I'm just not interested in them enough to follow them to other material. Again, with one exception. ;)

Not sure if he's a proponent of that crazy theory running rampant on KSite and TWOP, but it wouldn't surprise me.It's really, REALLY silly. If Lois never showed up in the series, and Chloe only referred to her as "her cousin," I would DEFINITELY be suspicious. In fact, I might really be into the idea. It's a unique twist. But the fact of the matter is, Lois Lane IS on the show. She's a real character who's had dreams of a guy wearing a red cape, is turned on by men who want to save the world, and even though she gives Clark endless grief for his "bumbling" nature, she still thinks she'd be lucky to end up with someone as honorable as him someday.

So there are lots of subtle and not so subtle knocks about Lois as well as the writers beating the fans over the head with anvils, and finally how old (grandma) Erica looks. It's too bad people say things like that, but he isn't the only one over there saying things like that.*sigh* Well, Lois is older than Clark to begin with, but she's FAR from looking like "grandma." Craig WISHES he had a grandma who looked like Durance. :D What's worse? Having an actress who's a year younger than the STAR but actually looks a little older, verses one who's 23, yet looks like she's just out of high school, but is *supposed* to be a seasoned reporter? Gah! Don't get me started. LOLOLOL

As to the foreshadowing, has Craig forgotten how much we got in the first season alone between Clark and Lex? That's one of the fun aspects about doing a PREQUEL. :p

I can't believe I'm justifying this stuff to Craig in absentia. I think I'll stop now. ;)

[rumpuso]

But should she have that same importance in Smallville? I always thought one of the things that made this show special was that it paved its own path and wasn't a slave to the mythos. While this drives the fanboys absolutely insane.. I've always enjoyed the "elseworlds" quality of the show.

Do you want this to become another "Lois and Clark?" I don't.

I'd love to see this show make a progression, not so much to Metropolis.. but to an interim time focusing on Clark exploring the Planet and helping people on a personal, but global level.. touching base with regulars back home on occasion. Sort of in the same vein as "Birthright" only taken to a more extreme degree.

When Al and Miles call me up, that's what I'm voting for.
Personally, I'd like the show to focus more intently on the journeys of Clark and Lex primarily, and Lana's role in both their lives. I would much rather keep Chloe and her super computer and Lois and her undetermined storylined in the WAY back. I don't find that they hold the same importance in this universe, other than as bit players moving the plot along.

Chloe and Pete as Clark's friends was all sorts of cute in earlier seasons. Chloe now seems to have pushed aside most everyone else in order to hold the most valuable position in Smallville, and that's just weird to me.

Lois has been random at best. They should have introduced her in Crusade, leave an impressive mark, then exit after Gone. OR, they should have held off on introducing her until Season 5, having her introduction come by way of Chloe via The Daily Planet which would have felt like a more plausible solution rather than having her live at the Kent farm, then the Talon.

Oh well...

[AgentPat]

Wow.. I never realized how much you hated her character...I don't hate *her*, I hate how she acts (the character, not the actress) and some of the biting things she says. And she's inconsistent. She said she can tell when Clark is lying, but didn't know when he said that he didn't love her in Hypnotic, when just weeks before, he said that he did, and always will. It's frustrating. He's saved her countless times - and that actually annoys her (Precipice) - which has culminated in her insisting she doesn't need his protection. Clark doesn't want or need validating accolades, but at the same time, it's heart wrenching to see him continue to be a selfless hero for somebody he loves so deeply, only to have her turn around and basically say screw you; I don't need you. It's tragic. And Greek Tragedy is all about teaching people lessons through parable. "Remember: The lessons that we learn from pain are the ones that make us the strongest." This applies to both Clark *and* Lana.

I try to avoid "Lana" discussion because I know it can offend people when it comes across as bashing, but know that my intent is not to bash. I just tend to see things from Clark's POV because he is the one that sacrifices in the name of love, even if he does so in poorly planned ways. Clark doesn't always think before he acts; it's one of his flaws. It's a not-so-venerable defining characteristic that will follow him for the rest of his life.

[Serene]

Personally, I'd like the show to focus more intently on the journeys of Clark and Lex primarily, and Lana's role in both their lives. I would much rather keep Chloe and her super computer and Lois and her undetermined storylined in the WAY back. I don't find that they hold the same importance in this universe, other than as bit players moving the plot along.

That works for me too. I'm really not totally unreasonable. ;)

I also hope they always keep Martha a prominent person in his life.. his "touchstone" with his humanity, in a much different way than Lana is. Lana should also fill that type of role, but who knows how things are going to go with that friendship.

But Martha is his mother, and they have established such a beautiful mother/son relationship between the two of them - Memoria, in particular.. and (was it Krypto?) where they had that heart to heart talk watching the rain from the barn. I really dig on those scenes that reach way down into Clark's heart.

[AgentPat]

But Martha is his mother, and they have established such a beautiful mother/son relationship between the two of them - Memoria, in particular.. and (was it Krypto?) where they had that heart to heart talk watching the rain from the barn....That was in Solitude. I remember because that scene came right after the SR teaser. The emotions inspired from the Clark/Martha scene made everything else pale in comparison. It was quite a beautiful exchange and was eclipsed only by the ending scenes in Vengeance, where Clark finally releases his grief over Jonathan's death in his mother's arms. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cry.gif

[avidreader]

Y'know, part of the reason I like her with Lex? This is gonna sound sadistic mind you, but I want to see her get burned (metaphorically), especially after that crack in Fade about not needing Clark to protect her, when just hours before, he intercepted a bullet headed straight for her pretty little head.

Yeah. I want to see her learn a painful lesson. Don't play with matches around rocket fuel. Clark warned her about not trusting Lex, and she equated that with a lack of trust of Clark. Owwwwch! That stung. It really, really did. When the show comes to an end, seeing her realize what she lost in Clark when he moved on will be the ultimate catharsis. It'll be Greek Tragedy at its best. I can't wait!!




I wanna see that too, but not because I want to see Lana get hurt and I can then say *.....na na na na na....* but because I want her to see that she had this truly wonderfuly SUPER guy who chose to love HER and HER alone.

And unfortunately its because of her obsessivness of thinking that she is OWNED the truth that she has pushed him away, not to mention Lex helped with that pushing a little along the way.

Sure.. because you wouldn't expect someone to be angry at all at a boyfriend who recently broke up with her saying that he no longer loved her.

Maybe I was just dumped in more painful ways than some of you. ;) Anger is very typical, regardless of the good times that were shared in the past.


I'd expect her to be hurt, but I also expect her to realise that Clark isnt your average every day guy and perhaps his motives were honourable. You cant tell me she didnt know he was lying when he said he didnt love her. She said as much to Lex.

Her attitude in Fade, made her come off sounding like she never appreciated Clark for anything that he has ever done for her and it just seemed to drive home the fact that she doesnt like Mr. Heroic Clark Kent, and that's probably why they never end up together.

Personally, I'd like the show to focus more intently on the journeys of Clark and Lex primarily, and Lana's role in both their lives. I would much rather keep Chloe and her super computer and Lois and her undetermined storylined in the WAY back. I don't find that they hold the same importance in this universe, other than as bit players moving the plot along.


Oh, I wanna see that too. Focus more on Clark and Lex, and I really want to see this Lexana out of the way and Lana learn about Clark's secret so that they can both get on with it and develop this lifelong friendship that they are supposed to have.

To be fair to Lois, I think TPTB have their hands a little tied at the moment with regards to her progression, but as soon as they are given the green light I can see her story going full steam ahead and I think this is a better way to use Chloe. Have her more involved with Lois's career.

But Martha is his mother, and they have established such a beautiful mother/son relationship between the two of them - Memoria, in particular.. and (was it Krypto?) where they had that heart to heart talk watching the rain from the barn. I really dig on those scenes that reach way down into Clark's heart.

That's a clear benefit of having Jonathan away from the screen, we get to see alot more of the mother/son relationship and it really is a beautiful one. I loved how he made her the cup of tea in Mercy, that was so sweet. :)

The emotions inspired from the Clark/Martha scene made everything else pale in comparison. It was quite a beautiful exchange and was eclipsed only by the ending scenes in Vengeance, where Clark finally releases his grief over Jonathan's death in his mother's arms. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cry.gif

I didnt really need the tissue box this early in the morning, but thanks for those touching words. :(

[Serene]

I wanna see that too, but not because I want to see Lana get hurt and I can then say *.....na na na na na....* but because I want her to see that she had this truly wonderfuly SUPER guy who chose to love HER and HER alone.

He did? Because last I saw, he chose not to love her, or at least not to be with her.. and from where she stands, is there a difference?

As far as her supposed knowing that he was lying to her - whether she knew or not.. does that make it better? So, even if she did suspect he was lying to her.. he's still breaking it off, in no uncertain terms. I'm not sure I would have wanted her to grovel at that point and beg him to stay with her because she suspected that he still loved her and was just breaking it off again for some reason. Enough is enough..

Me, I would have groveled..because, you know.. it's CLARK. ;)
But *ideally* I don't think that would have been easy or very realistic to watch. Besides.. her anger was part of the setup for her turning so quickly to Lex for comfort.

And unfortunately its because of her obsessivness of thinking that she is OWNED the truth that she has pushed him away, not to mention Lex helped with that pushing a little along the way.
:confused: She made it clear to him that she was willing to wait for the truth - she did not push him away.. quite the opposite.

FWIW, I think she IS owed the truth.. just as any woman who he claims to love enough to want to marry should be. His future with Lois will work because she WILL know the truth. Without that, the relationship would never be complete.

Damn.. I keep trying to avoid the Lana debates. They just bum me out.

I'm not going to have any threads left to post in soon. :( ;)

[avidreader]

He did? Because last I saw, he chose not to love her, or at least not to be with her.. and from where she stands, is there a difference?

But he did love her and I'm sure he still does, and I think she knows that and I can also completely understand that she has had enough of the bull****.

As far as her supposed knowing that he was lying to her - whether she knew or not.. does that make it better? So, even if she did suspect he was lying to her.. he's still breaking it off, in no uncertain terms. I'm not sure I would have wanted her to grovel at that point and beg him to stay with her because she suspected that he still loved her and was just breaking it off again for some reason. Enough is enough..


I wouldnt want her to grovel either, that was what he was trying to avoid by breaking it off with her so uncermoniously. He did start a sentence by saying he didnt want to hurt her, but Lana has this habit of cutting him off whenever he tries to explain something to her.


Me, I would have groveled..because, you know.. it's CLARK.
But *ideally* I don't think that would have been easy or very realistic to watch.

Me too. ;):) And I think she'll realise that, but it'll be too late.

If you remember back to Arrival Lana asked Clark if he believed in life on other planets. He answered her honestly that he did and he even went to the crash site. Then by Hidden she was saying people look at you funny when you start talking about spaceship and aliens. I think she chose to believe that no one would take her seriously because of the way Lex treated her in Arrival.

Lana made the mistake of turning to Lex in Splinter. That's when Lana also started lying to Clark and when their relationship started to go south.

Besides.. her anger was part of the setup for her turning so quickly to Lex for comfort.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. It is interesting to watch, but I dont like to see people who love each other hurt each other. I have no doubt that they will come back stronger as a result.



:confused: She made it clear to him that she was willing to wait for the truth - she did not push him away.. quite the opposite.

Well I think she started to push him away before that. She pushed him for answers in Fanatic, which is when she should have been giving him time. She pushed him to the point that he had to tell her in Reckoning, and it was pretty clear at that time she wasnt ready for the truth. So he was right in not telling her.

By the time we get to Hypnotic he can see that by having her wait for him to be ready was never going to happen, because of what happened prior, that's why he let her go.

FWIW, I think she IS owed the truth.. just as any woman who he claims to love enough to want to marry should be.

She is owed the truth up to a point. Its a pretty HUGE secret that he is carrying around with him and he HAS to be sure that whoever he shares it with is ready for the responsibility of it. As I said she showed us in Reckoning that she wasnt ready for the responsibility.

His future with Lois will work because she WILL know the truth. Without that, the relationship would never be complete.

But he has the benefits in the future of just being able to be plain old Clark Kent. Now if Lois were to have a relationship with Superman things woud be completely different.

Damn.. I keep trying to avoid the Lana debates. They just bum me out.

I'm not going to have any threads left to post in soon. :( ;)

You shouldnt get bummed out, its just a discussion and I dont HATE Lana. You know that. But I will always look at things more clearly from Clark's point of view. What can I say, I'm a sucker for good looking guys with Super powers and a great body. :O :D

[Serene]

But I will always look at things more clearly from Clark's point of view.

I guess I can't help seeing it from both points of view.

But I even sympathize with Lex much of the time,.. so I guess I'm just a pushover.

[Super_Ludacris]

Seems to me like you get it and hold no favourtism

that's why I love ya :)

[Brainiac 8]

I wouldnt want her to grovel either, that was what he was trying to avoid by breaking it off with her so uncermoniously. He did start a sentence by saying he didnt want to hurt her, but Lana has this habit of cutting him off whenever he tries to explain something to her.


Not only that but in most cases when Clark tries to explain himself, she folds her arms, huffs, and leaves the room before the conversation was finished.

I just don't think it is a good example to youngsters on how conversations are supposed to go between what are supposed to be two mature adults.

[Super_Ludacris]

Which reminds me....

lol@ dudes taking it more personally than Clark when Lana does that. It's like there vicarously living there failed marrianges and broken relationship through him that lead to them posting on the internet all day and reliving there 2nd childhood.

Not you, but certain other sites lol

[Brainiac 8]

You shouldnt get bummed out, its just a discussion and I dont HATE Lana. You know that. But I will always look at things more clearly from Clark's point of view. What can I say, I'm a sucker for good looking guys with Super powers and a great body. :O :D

Please Serene, don't stop posting.:(

I think what seperates some of us from other when it comes to debating, is that we can do it civily and without anger and resentment. I enjoy our discussions and never feel any ill against most of you. (You all know who you are.) I have a lot of respect for your and others opinions on this forum. The love of the show is what brings us together here.:up:

Plus, I don't hate Lana either. I always just think of how they portray certain conversational abilities on this show might effect a younger viewer.

If you stoped conversing, I'd miss ya.:O

[Brainiac 8]

Which reminds me....

lol@ dudes taking it more personally than Clark when Lana does that. It's like there vicarously living there failed marrianges and broken relationship through him that lead to them posting on the internet all day and reliving there 2nd childhood.

Not you, but certain other sites lol

Funny, your probably right.

I always think of the reprucussions when it comes to certain viewers of shows like this.

[Super_Ludacris]

It's true, next time someone bashes Lana like that just randomly as an experiment say "Does she remind you of her" and if they get defensive, you know there punching the screen as they post.

[Super_Ludacris]

...and why would anyone have reprecussions watching Smallville? Cant they handle things in real life on there own? Kids arent THAT impressonable

[Brainiac 8]

...and why would anyone have reprecussions watching Smallville? Cant they handle things in real life on there own? Kids arent THAT impressonable

Take this from a father's viewpoint, since I have an impressionable little girl.

Children, and sometimes pre-teens and teenagers, and in some rare cases adults, do learn things from the television. Take for example a chile who starts to imitate a curse word he/she hears on the television. Or in some cases,(mostly children of parents who let the tv babysit their kid), children do learn some life lessons and or skills from what they watch.

My thought is when they show passive aggressive behavior as the way two adults are supposed to interact, they could carry this over in how they deal with other individuals when they are older. Don't say never, I have seen many cases of that sort of thing happening.

[Super_Ludacris]

America is being lazy relying on the media to teach they kids. End of the day kids are gonna be more influenced by what's going on in there neighbourhood and household than what's on TV

[AgentPat]

Kids arent THAT impressonableWanna bet? Kids are like photocopy machines. Even *I* know that, and I don't have kids. :p It's aye-freakin'-mazing what they can pick up and imitate.

[Brainiac 8]

America is being lazy relying on the media to teach they kids. End of the day kids are gonna be more influenced by what's going on in there neighbourhood and household than what's on TV

I agree that parents need to be much more proactive with raising their children, and yes the majority of life skills are learned from their experiences/surroundings/people, but entertainment still shapes as well, it's just not as big of a influence as the other things.

BTW, I wasn't trying to say you don't know about kids, I don't know if you have any or not, so no offense SuperL.:up: :)

[Super_Ludacris]

But Clark and Lana on Smallville? lol

[Brainiac 8]

But Clark and Lana on Smallville? lol

Don't underestimate the power of television when it comes to youngsters minds, in any form.:o

[Serene]

Please Serene, don't stop posting.:(

I think what seperates some of us from other when it comes to debating, is that we can do it civily and without anger and resentment. I enjoy our discussions and never feel any ill against most of you. (You all know who you are.) I have a lot of respect for your and others opinions on this forum. The love of the show is what brings us together here.:up:

Plus, I don't hate Lana either. I always just think of how they portray certain conversational abilities on this show might effect a younger viewer.

If you stoped conversing, I'd miss ya.:O

Aw, thanks, B8.
I'm just feeling very, VERY square-peggish these days.. not just here, but in just about all the SV forums I frequent.

Perhaps I should start my own forum and be the only member.. :D

I'm not going to stop posting here.. I'd miss all you guys too much. I just need to learn to back off once in a while. I have a lot of RL stress (that I won't whine about here) but there are days when I think my fuse is just infinitesimally short.. and then I just sound like a raving bittch. :(
This stuff is supposed to be my outlet for fun - not a platform to piss people off or to get pissed off.

Children, and sometimes pre-teens and teenagers, and in some rare cases adults, do learn things from the television. Take for example a chile who starts to imitate a curse word he/she hears on the television. Or in some cases,(mostly children of parents who let the tv babysit their kid), children do learn some life lessons and or skills from what they watch.

I think that in general, you are correct, and TV can definitely have an influence on impressionable young minds. That said, I think to take the specific scene of Clark and Lana arguing in the loft is just another lesson in the imperfection and complications of relationships. Even Clark and Lana, two traditionally "good" guys (depending on who you're talking to, I guess. ;)), don't always do the right things.. don't always make the right choices. But living with the consequences of those choices is the real lesson.

My daughter and her friends that watch (and we're talking adolescent.. and completely INSANE.. girls) are beside themselves about all this Clark and Lana stuff. But they aren't Superman fans.. they are SV fans, exclusively.

It'll be interesting to see how many of the young SV fans, who know nothing about Superman mythology otherwise, will go to see the new movie.

Notice how smoothly I changed the subject? :)

[Super_Ludacris]

I can understand kids dressing up and emulating there idols on MTV but...................Clark and Lana?

[Whiteflag]

I've enjoyed reading the posts on this thread. Very interesting discussion and some great points from everyone.

AgentPat, I, like you, am really interested in just one particular member of the cast. :)

Avidreader, I agree with many of your comments.

Great reading! Thanks!

[avidreader]

This can only mean one thing right?


Clark/Lana/Lex. I think the show was built around these three from the beginning, so I don't consider her a minor character. But she is more difficult to make iconic in the way that Clark and Lex obviously are. Let's see if we can something about that in Season Six.

And I love this comment.

Where's Clark coming from. Hmm. I always think it's pretty obvious where Clark's coming from and what he's feeling. He's the one character that wears his heart on his sleeve.

I know there are alot out there that will love this comment.

Calling Lana on her crap. Sounds awesome. I hope I get to write that scene.

And this one, I find very interesting.

Lex/Clark sibling rivalry vs. Lex/Clark/Lana triangle. I actually see these as two as sides of the same coin. Lex longs for the kind of love that Clark receives from his family -- and from Lana. See the connection? Now that's interesting, at least to me.

[Brainiac 8]

I am more and more loving DeKnight because of this thread, I may forgive him for some of the episodes he had a part in.

Especially about calling Lana on her Crap.:up: ;)

[Super_Ludacris]

He wrote it so he should be able to figure out how to do it....smh

[avidreader]

I am more and more loving DeKnight because of this thread, I may forgive him for some of the episodes he had a part in.

Especially about calling Lana on her Crap.:up: ;)

That first comment, has got to mean that Lana is in on the secret. Please tell me you guys see it this way too.

I'm starting to think this secret is really what's holding Clark back somewhat.

[BaK]

She is owed the truth up to a point. Its a pretty HUGE secret that he is carrying around with him and he HAS to be sure that whoever he shares it with is ready for the responsibility of it. As I said she showed us in Reckoning that she wasnt ready for the responsibility.
now avid, that's just too wrong..

it's, (what you imply here), more like she went to the crowded Talon and said his secret with a bullhorn, and then sent text message to Lex, - then what actually had happened in Reckoning, - or what you probably meant to say..

what happened was anything but "not responsible" she did the best under circumstances - she actually did risk her life by trying to get away from Lex who went all out and unleashed his worst on her..

[Serene]

I messaged Steve D. and invited him to come visit us here..

We'll see if he shows up. :D

Someone quick hide the dirty laundry just in case he does.. :eek:;)

[Super_Ludacris]

*waits for him around the corner with a steel bat*

Wait.....

*debates whether he should ask for KK's cell number before he hits him*

[Serene]

Okay.. somebody hide Lude too!

:p (luv ya Lude)

[Super_Ludacris]

I swear I wont hit him below the waist.................if he gives me Kristin's digits

[Spider-Gamer]

I messaged Steve D. and invited him to come visit us here..

We'll see if he shows up. :D

Someone quick hide the dirty laundry just in case he does.. :eek:;)
That would be so cool! :)

[avidreader]

now avid, that's just too wrong..

it's, (what you imply here), more like she went to the crowded Talon and said his secret with a bullhorn, and then sent text message to Lex, - then what actually had happened in Reckoning, - or what you probably meant to say..

what happened was anything but "not responsible" she did the best under circumstances - she actually did risk her life by trying to get away from Lex who went all out and unleashed his worst on her..

No, no, no, that's not what I meant at all. Let me try again.

Remember when Clark wanted to tell Pete about his secret and Clark's parents said you might be giving him a responsibility that he's not ready to take on yet.

Now that didnt imply that Pete would betray Clark and blurt out his secret to the next person that came along because he wouldnt and neither would Lana and she proved that she wouldnt by getting herself killed for it.

What I meant by responsibility was that the burden of keeping that secret isnt something that Lana is able to do at this point in time, because

a) She's not very good at hiding secrets and telling lies; and
b) She's too much in cahoots with Lex Luthor

Doesnt make her a bad person it just means that Lana's not ready yet.

[avidreader]

I messaged Steve D. and invited him to come visit us here..

We'll see if he shows up. :D

Someone quick hide the dirty laundry just in case he does.. :eek:;)

Goodonya Serene! :up: I hope he comes and plays a visit.

Did you get the washing done?

[AgentPat]

I messaged Steve D. and invited him to come visit us here..

We'll see if he shows up. :D

Someone quick hide the dirty laundry just in case he does.. :eek: ;)Ut oh! Forget the dirty laundry; I need a rock to hide under. Remember this...

...I KNEW there was a reason I avoided K-Site. I thought it was because of all the Buffy fans and the ridiculous Chloe-becomes-Lois theories....Um.... :O Now I feel like a complete jerk. LOL



I just get tired of seeing SV unfavorably compared to Buffy, as if the latter was the greatest skein ever. Meh. Give me SV *any* day of the week.

[Serene]

Um.... :O Now I feel like a complete jerk. LOL



I just get tired of seeing SV unfavorably compared to Buffy, as if the latter was the greatest skein ever. Meh. Give me SV *any* day of the week.
I wouldn't worry about it. I was a Buffy fan, to a moderate degree.. but I totally agree. I could miss Buffy eps.. I do NOT miss SV eps (or people get hurt)(no, seriously).

;)

Besides.. smart money says he won't show anyway. I'm sure he's getting thousands fo messages from all the 'shipper forums trying to woo him..

[rumpuso]

The guy's brave for opening up the door for communication. Every shipper has his/her own agenda when posting to his blog and it's completely stupid to read their thoughts. They beg, they 'yes-man' him, they commend him, they scold him, then they follow him around hoping he'll toss them a bone they can construe to their own preference.

Oye.

It's nuts.

[avidreader]

The guy's brave for opening up the door for communication. Every shipper has his/her own agenda when posting to his blog and it's completely stupid to read their thoughts. They beg, they 'yes-man' him, they commend him, they scold him, then they follow him around hoping he'll toss them a bone they can construe to their own preference.

Oye.

It's nuts.

I'm actually getting alot of amusement out of reading that thread at Ksite. Depending on who your favourite character is a determination of what they think is right or wrong with the show.

[rumpuso]

I started to read several of the posts, until I saw that the people with the Chloe/Chlark/or Chlois icos gushed over Chloe's incredible rise in just a short time, as well as the "fabulous" chemistry between Chloe and Clark, and conversely dissed the Lois and Lana characters as vapid and ridiculous.

It's too childish to participate.

What's the point? It's not as though the producers are going to cater to the online majority anyway. And seriously, why would they?

[avidreader]

I started to read several of the posts, until I saw that the people with the Chloe/Chlark/or Chlois icos gushed over Chloe's incredible rise in just a short time, as well as the "fabulous" chemistry between Chloe and Clark, and conversely dissed the Lois and Lana characters as vapid and ridiculous.

It's too childish to participate.

What's the point? It's not as though the producers are going to cater to the online majority anyway. And seriously, why would they?

The thing is they just cant cater for it, because its way too diverse.

I must admit I got sick of all the Lana and Lois hate, and for those that love Lana they just went way too over the top.

This story is really about CLARK and lex.

[rumpuso]

They should honestly close their eyes to all of us nutters on the net who obsess this much over a tv show and keep doing what they're doing. Smallville's creative team may have issues here and there with continuity and what have you, but they have quite a successful formula. Couple that with a wonderful cast, then voila! All is good. The general public vs. us online fans are way too different, and yes, diverse as you say. Can't please everyone all of the time. I think they do a bang up job the majority of the time anyway.

If they just keep it real and keep the story moving along, then the viewers will continue to stay put, as they have. (Yes, we'll still nitpick and complain, but that's our nature. :) )

[avidreader]

They should honestly close their eyes to all of us nutters on the net who obsess this much over a tv show and keep doing what they're doing. Smallville's creative team may have issues here and there with continuity and what have you, but they have quite a successful formula. Couple that with a wonderful cast, then voila! All is good. The general public vs. us online fans are way too different, and yes, diverse as you say. Can't please everyone all of the time. I think they do a bang up job the majority of the time anyway.

If they just keep it real and keep the story moving along, then the viewers will continue to stay put, as they have. (Yes, we'll still nitpick and complain, but that's our nature. :) )

Bravo! :up:

[Serene]

If they just keep it real and keep the story moving along, then the viewers will continue to stay put, as they have. (Yes, we'll still nitpick and complain, but that's our nature. :) )
Can I get an "ay-men?"

;)

[TwilightPro101]

Would be nice if he did show.

[BaK]

No, no, no, that's not what I meant at all. Let me try again.

Remember when Clark wanted to tell Pete about his secret and Clark's parents said you might be giving him a responsibility that he's not ready to take on yet.

Now that didnt imply that Pete would betray Clark and blurt out his secret to the next person that came along because he wouldnt and neither would Lana and she proved that she wouldnt by getting herself killed for it.

What I meant by responsibility was that the burden of keeping that secret isnt something that Lana is able to do at this point in time, because

a) She's not very good at hiding secrets and telling lies; and
b) She's too much in cahoots with Lex Luthor

Doesnt make her a bad person it just means that Lana's not ready yet. yeah, I sort of knew that's not what you ment cause it's so OOC for you (they should write your character better ;):) )

still though, seems like responsibility is a bit wrong word for the context of things there..

what would be more accurate - something along lines like:
- too much of a burden for someone so much closer then a friend (Pete, Chloe),
- asking to blur all the lines between protecting someone and lying,
- too dangerous - considering her closeness to a friend who is morphing into evil,
something like that..

responsibility is imo a very different animal..
for some reason - it might work/apply better in explaining Pete's case, not sure why really..

ok, quick why - maybe because in Rush, it looked more like he was endangering Clark's secret way more then putting himself in trouble where someone would go after him..

does it make much sense? (nope)..
well, I guess not everything can be explained away..
that's why it is interesting.. :)

[Super_Ludacris]

I mean I think she can handle it at this point in the show....

[Brainiac 8]

They should honestly close their eyes to all of us nutters on the net who obsess this much over a tv show and keep doing what they're doing. Smallville's creative team may have issues here and there with continuity and what have you, but they have quite a successful formula. Couple that with a wonderful cast, then voila! All is good. The general public vs. us online fans are way too different, and yes, diverse as you say. Can't please everyone all of the time. I think they do a bang up job the majority of the time anyway.

If they just keep it real and keep the story moving along, then the viewers will continue to stay put, as they have. (Yes, we'll still nitpick and complain, but that's our nature. :) )

Great thoughts!:up: (And yes, no matter what, nit picking is out nature.):O

Plus I'm sure that DeKnight can sift through the actual comments that mean something, and the hate rubbish that many people are posting. I'm sure he was somewhat expecting some of that to happen.

[avidreader]

yeah, I sort of knew that's not what you ment cause it's so OOC for you (they should write your character better ;):) )

Too funny! Well you know us girls always have our out of character moments, I'm just glad people dont refer to me as a pink princess. ;)

still though, seems like responsibility is a bit wrong word for the context of things there..

what would be more accurate - something along lines like:
- too much of a burden for someone so much closer then a friend (Pete, Chloe),
- asking to blur all the lines between protecting someone and lying,
- too dangerous - considering her closeness to a friend who is morphing into evil,
something like that..

Well where's my Walking Thesaurus when I need one. Burden is probably the word that I would have preferred to use. Thanks for that, I'll remember it next time.

[avidreader]

Had to post this comment from Mr. DeKnight.


You make an interesting case. But to me their relationship has seemed anything but forced. I actually like the way the characters (and actors) relate to each other. I'm particularly fascinated by how vulnerable Lex is when he's with Lana. It's almost as if she reignites the humanity remaining in his darkening heart. As for the villain winning, they seldom do in these kinds of mythological tales. But that doesnt mean they won't keep trying...
As for ruining Lana's character, I don't think this direction will accomplish that at all. Is she making a huge mistake? Possibly. Just like most people her age always seem to do when caught up in affairs of the heart (at least I did. But I'm weak. Weak!). On the other hand, if anything can pull Lex back from the brink, even briefly, it'll be love. And who better than the woman he's so obviously been pining for since early in the series?
That's my opinion on the whole Lex/Lana story. As for Clark breaking up with Lana, I don't think it was abrupt at all. After Reckoning, he started pulling back even more than he already had. The relationship was dying because of Clark, and Lana had been feeling it for a long time.
Will Clark and Lana get back together again? I think eventually that'd be a beautiful thing, even if they aren't destined to be together forever.

[avidreader]

YAY! I was finally right about something.

CLARK ISN'T SUPERMAN YET. AND HOW INTERESTING WOULD IT BE IF CLARK RAN AROUND ALL BY HIMSELF? NOT VERY, IN MY OPINION. AND AS FOR CHLOE AND THE DANGER OF KNOWING HIS SECRET, HE DIDN'T VOLUNTARILY TELL HER ABOUT HIS POWERS -- SHE FOUND OUT HERSELF. IS SHE IN DANGER BECAUSE OF IT? WELL, LIONEL AND LEX BOTH SEEM TO HAVE A KEEN INTEREST IN HER, SO YEAH, THE THREAT IS ALWAYS THERE. MAYBE WE'LL BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT NEXT SEASON. BUT WITH LANA, CLARK HAS THE CHOICE TO TELL HER AND ACCEPT SHE MAY BE IN DANGER. THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

[BaK]

Had to post this comment from Mr. DeKnight.
Will Clark and Lana get back together again? I think eventually that'd be a beautiful thing, even if they aren't destined to be together forever.


:up:

I'd say way better chance then tony m. & triplet..

[Serene]

Will Clark and Lana get back together again? I think eventually that'd be a beautiful thing, even if they aren't destined to be together forever.


:up:

I'd say way better chance than tony m. & triplet..
LMAO!!!

[BaK]

hey 'rene :D

nice kidz! :)

are they adopted?

[avidreader]

I missed this earlier.


I'm focusing on the Lex side because I can't really say anything about the Lana side yet. There were things in the works in the last couple of episodes, and I don't know if they're still there or if they've been pushed to next season.

[triplet]

I'd say way better chance then tony m. & triplet..

LOL!

:up:

Yeah, I'm happily married so Clark and Lana do have a better chance of getting back together than Tony has hooking up with me. :D

Especially since I'm fairly sure my hubby could probably beat Tony's ass into paste... ;) :D

[Serene]

are they adopted?
:confused:

Anywhooo....

More stuff from Steven's blog:

I do love a good rant. And I agree, it's time to stop the teen angst. Uhp! Don't celebrate so fast! There will still be angst, but it'll be replaced by young-adult angst. What's the difference, you ask? Shades of gray, my friend, shades of grade. Smallville, from the very first episode, has been a soap opera with superpowers. Yes, it's about Clark Kent becoming Superman, but what leads him to put on that cape will be the aggregate of his experiences. And the most important of them will be relationship based, not the villains he fights. His parents. His first love. The man he called friend, who becomes his mortal enemy. That's soap, with (hopefully) a whole lot of opera.
************

It isn't official yet, but yes, there will be a Season Six. And possibly a Seven. As for Lexana, I could swear all day long. But lying for extended periods of time gives me a headache, so I'll have to pass
*************
regarding the women on SV:
THIS IS A LITTLE HARD TO RESPOND TO WITHOUT SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE WRITERS ALWAYS STRIVE TO SHOW, NOT TELL. BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WE'RE GETTING NOTES FROM AL, MILES, THE STUDIO, THE NETWORK, THE DIRECTOR, THE PHYSICAL PRODUCERS IN CANADA, AND THE ACTORS THEMSELVES. SO WHAT WE WANT IN THE END CAN GET TWISTED A BIT BY THE PROCESS. AND SOMETIMES WE JUST PLAIN MISS THE MARK. BUT WE POUR EVERYTHING WE HAVE INTO EVERY EPISODE.
**************
LOIS IS A TRICKY CHARACTER. NOT BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTER ITSELF, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS PUT ON US BY THE FEATURE DIVISION (THAT'S WHY SHE CAN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CLARK. OR LEX.) THE CHIEF OF STAFF THING DIDN'T REALLY BOTHER ME. IN FACT, IT SEEMED LIKE SHE HAD FOUND SOMETHING SHE WAS ACTUALLY GOOD AT. BUT I DO SEE YOUR POINT.

[BaK]

:confused:


can we go back in time ? :(

jor-el, where the hack are you?

[Super_Ludacris]

Interesting feedback from Deknight. to be honest I havent read the questions people have posted just the responses but I think if people were specific in what greivances they had about some characters and plots, if he answered them directly he would get it. But certainly his point on Lana I agree with (obviously...) I just hope he's aware.
You guys are right about shippers they are ridiculous. If some of you guys remember from last season when we use to post here, the thing that use to really piss was the shippers (all of them) and one thing that use to piss me off was that it seemed online they were the only type of fans who existed (K-site, DTS) and my reservation was I hope the writers werent listening to them. Ultimatley I dont care about who's with who as long as the characters have respectabilty to them and the actors get to utilise there best acting chops


ya feel me?

[GothicPowerMix1]

I would not like it if Lana & Clark got back together. This Show is supposed to be moving forwards not backwards. Then again its not very good at that in general on its own. I say for half of Season 6 give Clark the space & time he needs to grow up (Lanas doing a pretty damn good job at it) & give Lana the time She needs to really find out just what an evil son of a ***** Lex really is & that Clark was right about him. Clark trusted Lex for 3 years & considered him one of his Best Friends before things got rough. SO I can see them taking the time with Lana & Lex. I just want to see nothing forced here

[KikiDee]

Originally Posted by BaK
are they adopted?

:confused:



I'm assuming he meant they had to be because you are way too cool to have children of that age. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Serene]

[/I]



I'm assuming he meant they had to be because you are way too cool to have children of that age. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
Well, I started when I was 10.

What?

[KikiDee]

Well, I started when I was 10.

What?


LOL!!:up:

[Serene]

So....Himself messaged me and is planning on trying to come visit our little playground - perhaps this weekend. Unless he forgets. ;)


He's going to let me know when so we can all "dogpile" on him (his words, not mine.) :)


*eyeing dirty laundry*

[Spider-Gamer]

So....Himself messaged me and is planning on trying to come visit our little playground - perhaps this weekend. Unless he forgets. ;)


He's going to let me know when so we can all "dogpile" on him (his words, not mine.) :)


*eyeing dirty laundry*
Awesome! Thank you for the heads up! :)

[triplet]

So....Himself messaged me and is planning on trying to come visit our little playground - perhaps this weekend. Unless he forgets. ;)


He's going to let me know when so we can all "dogpile" on him (his words, not mine.) :)


*eyeing dirty laundry*

Cool...

:D

[avidreader]

So....Himself messaged me and is planning on trying to come visit our little playground - perhaps this weekend. Unless he forgets. ;)


He's going to let me know when so we can all "dogpile" on him (his words, not mine.) :)


*eyeing dirty laundry*

Hey! That's great stuff. :up:

[Pixiedust]

More stuff from Steven's blog:

LOIS IS A TRICKY CHARACTER. NOT BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTER ITSELF, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS PUT ON US BY THE FEATURE DIVISION (THAT'S WHY SHE CAN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CLARK. OR LEX.) THE CHIEF OF STAFF THING DIDN'T REALLY BOTHER ME. IN FACT, IT SEEMED LIKE SHE HAD FOUND SOMETHING SHE WAS ACTUALLY GOOD AT. BUT I DO SEE YOUR POINT.

Being a Lois supporter, it makes me very happy to see this acknowledged by one of the writers directly to the fans. Not that it will make a diifference to her detractors. He references the example of not being able to have a relationship with Clark or Lex(ewww), but he also says that there are a lot of contraints, meaning a romantic relationship with Clark isn't the only thing that they are limited in doing. Journalism maybe?

It's nice to see him acknowledge what her supporters have been saying, that by working for Jonathan and thus getting the Chief of Staff position that she has found something she is good at. They have shown her to be good at it. So it's not journalism. Get over it. She is showing lots of Lois like traits in her job and her other actions. And I think giving her that job does give her a place in Smallville and doesn't shoe horn her in where she doesn't belong.

I just hope some of the constraints are lifted next season. The shipper in me would love a little romantic action between Lois and Clark (one-- because I think TW and ED have great chemistry together and two-- because I have been a Clois shipper since the first movie) but that's not why I watch Smallville. In fact, I had no shipper preference at all before Lois came on the show. I watch Smallville for the Superman story.

I just want Lois to be a more consistent character. I want to see more of the progess that they have begun lately by making Lois and Clark more like friends and not so much bickering aquantances who don't like each other much. They have set them up to be friends, now I want more scenes like when he brought her home from the hospital in Fragile so we can see that they are. That doesn't mean Lois has to lose all her snark. Snark is part of who Lois Lane is.

And yes, I would like to see her on the road to journalism, even back in school.

Lois is a tricky character to write because of what they can and can't do with her and I really hope we find out some day what those constraints really are. But if she stays in Smallville ( and I really hope she does or the show will be less for me) I want them to use her and move her to that iconic character that I have loved for so long.

Erica Durance has the chops for it. Now let her do it.

[avidreader]

^^^^ That's a good post Pixie. What I dont understand is, how come they can manouevre Clark and Lex any way they want but when it comes to Lois they cant? :confused:

[Brainiac 8]

What's wrong with being a shipper?

I'm a shipper for Shelby.:p

[Pixiedust]

What's wrong with being a shipper?

I'm a shipper for Shelby.:p

And they call it puppy love.....

[Pixiedust]

^^^^ That's a good post Pixie. What I dont understand is, how come they can manouevre Clark and Lex any way they want but when it comes to Lois they cant? :confused:

They do have to get signed off on what they want to do with Clark and Lex with WB and DC so it's not like they can do anything they want with them.

As for why there are more constraints with Lois, I have no idea. Maybe it has to do with why they were allowed to have Lex from the beginning and not Lois. Maybe more will be revealed after the movie comes out and maybe not.

How's that for a non answer?

[Mandrill]

I really don't get it myself.How will Clark and Lois getting together in SV effect the movie?

[BaK]

De Knight Is Coming!
De Knight Is Coming!
De Knight Is Coming!

:eek:

[triplet]

De Knight Is Coming!
De Knight Is Coming!
De Knight Is Coming!

:eek:

LOL!

:up:

[avidreader]

De Knight Is Coming!
De Knight Is Coming!
De Knight Is Coming!

:eek:

Have your swords at the ready.



I shouldnt say that I might scare him off.

Really we're harmless Mr. DeKnight, please pay us a visit. :)

[Serene]

The man is true to his word (always nice to see) and is planning on joining us here tomorrow (Sunday 5/7) at 1pm his time..

*Note that he's in L.A., so that's 1pm Pacific time (PDT) and adjust accordingly. ;)

I'm excited!

As opposed to bombarding him with 'shipper agendas, maybe it would be nice to post some questions for him to answer.

Here's mine:

What is the process that determines which writers get to write which episodes? Do Al and Miles decide? Do you get to request specific episodes? Do they try to balance it out between all the writers?

Okay, that was more than one question.. but hopefully his answer will encompass them all.

Did I mention that I'm excited??? :) :up:

[avidreader]

The man is true to his word (always nice to see) and is planning on joining us here tomorrow (Sunday 5/7) at 1pm his time..

*Note that he's in L.A., so that's 1pm Pacific time (PDT) and adjust accordingly. ;)

I'm excited!

As opposed to bombarding him with 'shipper agendas, maybe it would be nice to post some questions for him to answer.

Here's mine:

What is the process that determines which writers get to write which episodes? Do Al and Miles decide? Do you get to request specific episodes? Do they try to balance it out between all the writers?

Okay, that was more than one question.. but hopefully his answer will encompass them all.

Did I mention that I'm excited??? :) :up:

Hey that's cool Serene, I hope I'm around. At least I dont need to worry about time difference. I'll need to put my thinking cap on for a question that I want to ask.

I'm excited too. :up:

[BaK]

Here are my questions for Mr De Knight:

- Does anyone at the beginning of new season know what is the last episode going to be and if yes - to what extent?

- Are there various levels of knowing all of the season story arc details for different writers, if yes why?

- What major parts had to be changed in seasons 3 and 4 when Mr Reeve and Mrs Kidder could not continue on with their roles?

- Has any person ever showed up on the set wearing a red cape? :)
If yes, :eek:, who?

tnx..
:)

[triplet]

Me, the only things I think to ask are questions that came up about what the characters really know or how they knew it...


Did Lionel really not remember anything that happened during Transference?

How much did Lex remember from Onyx?

How did Alicia learn about the red-k in Unsafe?


I've always wondered about that and we never found out...

ETA:

Oh, a couple more things...

I loved Memoria. Loved it with a passion. It was such a beautifully shot episode and in addition to revealing tons about Lex and Lionel it even hinted that Clark's parents weren't the monsters Clark thought...


Will Clark ever get his own version of Memoria?

I mean, like a flashback episode where maybe we learn why Clark has some of the fears he does?

Like:


Will we ever find out why (exactly) Clark hates heights?
Will we ever find out why he used to have nightmares when he was a boy?


Would Smallville ever do an AU episode where Clark maybe wasn't found by the Kents and show how things might have been different?


He's even hinted at it recently how things might have been different for him if they hadn't (Fragile) and he had been raised in the foster care system...

Has anyone considered writing how things would have been if he'd been raised by Lionel instead and Lex was his brother?


Thanks for coming by, btw... :up:

I hope you like it 'round here so I hope you can come by from time to time...

[avidreader]

Well I have thought some questions over. Here goes.

1. Who is your favourite character to write and why?

2. Does Lana think that Clark is more than your average freak of the week? Sometimes she seems to realise that Clark is special and better than your average guy (i.e. Thirst, "when I bit you I felt what was in your heart") and then there are times that she seems to be totally clueless as to just who Clark Kent really is.

3. Another question about Lana. Do the writers have a clear vision on what they want to do with this character? I've always put her erratic character development down to "a typical girl of her age" but then I sometimes wonder if its because no one really knows what to do with her.

4. I would love to see a flashback story to Clark's youth. How his parents had to deal with his emerging abilities and how they taught him to control them. Just a story covering all things Clark as a kid. Any chance of seeing something like this?

And finally I just want to add that in all my 40 odd years on this planet I have never loved a TV show and its characters as much as I do Smallville. You have truly brought all of these characters home to our hearts and I love watching the story progress week by week.

Thanks for taking the time to come and speak with us here at the Hype and keep up the great work! :up: :)

[TKodami]

Avid, Serene and BaK have basically covered the (good) questions that I had, so I'm going to try to think up a couple on the fly:

1) Have the writers ever considered doing a large ensemble scene with all (or almost all) of the characters in one place for an extended period? Are there any budgetary constraints on doing a scene like this, or have the individual arcs of each character simply kept them apart?

2) Do you have a favorite action scene and/or set piece in the series? (Clark catching the elevator has definitely become one of my favorite. :up:)

3) Do you have a writing routine? Do you prefer to write during specific hours of the day? Are you a pencil-and-paper guy, a word-processor junkie, or both?

4) What is your most harrowing experience of writing under a deadline?

[AgentPat]

Hmmm, this is rather difficult. I really can't think of any questions to ask. Well, other than ones that will likely NEVER be answered in a public forum beyond some whitewash of the details. But just for poop and giggles, it started here (http://www.superman-v.com/news/04_08_04.php) and here (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1490116/08112004/story.jhtml).

<- was an instigator in kindergarten, too. :p

Aight, 'nuf-o-dat. Moving on...

Lemme first say, I'm really quite happy with what's been done on the show so far. I have nitpicks here and there, but I understand the show is under certain constraints from various places and they simply don't have the latitude to just go sick.

That said, I have three "TINY" requests...

Please, for the love of everything Superman, get him OFF the ground, STAT!!! Ya folla? [/Robert Shaw] :D
More hints about the suit, its origin, design, and Clark's decision to wear something that for all intents and purposes, is really kind of .... silly. LOL SV is "grounded" in a very real word, albeit with superhuman characters. Why would the Clark we know choose to wear something like that - in public? I'm looking forward to seeing how SV tackles this very important aspect of Supes' origins. Oh, and btw, a note to wardrobe: Regarding SV's version of the costume, "K.I.S.S." ;)
And finally, no cop-outs for the show finale. None of this "we'll only see a streak" or "shirt rip" BS. All the way baby. Full deal. I want to see SV's Superman in all his glory, thankyaverymuch!!!

Other than that, I'm good. Rock on! You guys are AWESOME! There's a reason why this is true...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/iceberg.jpg

:up:

[Serene]

^Love that graphic, Pat. :)

Wasn't there some statistic about how SV is one of the top Tivo'd shows on TV?

[Brainiac 8]

Might as well mention a few of the questions I had.

Mr DeKight:

First off, I love the show! One of the best on tv.:up:

1) Do the writer's have a plan set out that is going to explain Jor-El and why he has acted the way he has in the past seasons. It's just really hard to see this Jor-El being the one that Clark grows to trust from the comics. Do they have a plan set out to explain this?

2) I know that you have to work on an SFX budget per episode, but it seems we don't see Clark effectively use his powers as much as he used to. What do you think of this, and is this a concern at all to the writer's or producers?

3) Speaking of powers...when are we going to get to see his Super-Breath and for the love of god FLIGHT. Clark knows he has that ability in him, but we don't get to see him wonder about it or try it out any. Are we going to get to see any of these two?

4) With as powerful as Milton Fine is and the fact that he gains a new ability every time we see him, why didn't he just off Lionel instead of trying to get Clark to?

5) Will we ever get to see Lana learn of Clark's abilities? It would really help her to see how unfairly she has treated Clark throughout these last two seasons.

6) Are there any other Superman Villains you would like to introduce in Smallville, and who are they?

More to follow as I think of them....

[Serene]

I should mention that SD said he'd only be here for maybe an hour or so... LOL..

I suppose we could tie him to a chair or something though... Hmm..

;) :up:

[Brainiac 8]

I should mention that SD said he'd only be here for maybe an hour or so... LOL..

I suppose we could tie him to a chair or something though... Hmm..

;) :up:

hehe, resistance is futile, you must be assimilated.:D

[Steve DeKnight]

Hola, Super Hero Hypers! Thanks for spending a little time with yours truly on this fine Sunday afternoon. I see the questions have already started, so I'm going to jump in early and see how many of these I can answer before I have to split around 2pm. If I don't get to your question, don't take it personally. My wee fingers only type so fast.

And for future questions and some nifty Smallville insider scoops, join me over at MySpace. Become a Disciple of DeKnight, and help me get more friends than Brian K. Vaughn. The man haunts me with his popularity. Here's the link, stop by and say hello:

http://www.myspace.com/stevendeknight

Okay, enough shameless plugging. Now on to some questions. Let's start with Serene, who was kind enough to invite me to come play in your sandbox. Thanks, Serene!




What is the process that determines which writers get to write which episodes? Do Al and Miles decide? Do you get to request specific episodes? Do they try to balance it out between all the writers?

DEKNIGHT: Luck of the draw. With the exception of big event episodes like the premier, ep. 100, and the finale, we usually don't know what the specifics of the story are when we're up on deck. Sometimes you get Silver K paranoid Clark, sometimes you get an exploding baby. You never know.

Yes, Al and Miles decide who's writing which ep.

Nope, you don't get to request anything. Hmm... Maybe I should try that next year...

Balance it out? Yes and no. The junior writers usually get one or two eps a year, the higher ups more. I actually wrote or rewrote 10 episodes this year, six credited, four un (and no, I'll never tell which ones I helped ruin -- uh, I mean rewrite!).

:supes:

[/quote]

[Serene]

http://bestsmileys.com/welcome/7.gif <--We'll just pretend that's the Talon sign. :up:

[Steve DeKnight]

Questions from BaK

Here are my questions for Mr De Knight:

- Does anyone at the beginning of new season know what is the last episode going to be and if yes - to what extent?

DEKNIGHT: We usually have a vague idea where we're headed, but all that may change depending on what we decide to do during the course of the season.

- Are there various levels of knowing all of the season story arc details for different writers, if yes why?

DEKNIGHT: Yes. Some writers have been there since Season II, and some have just joined us last year. Those who have beeen there longer remember the specifics of the arcs a lot better than the newbies.

- What major parts had to be changed in seasons 3 and 4 when Mr Reeve and Mrs Kidder could not continue on with their roles?

DEKNIGHT: I don't think anything major changed.

- Has any person ever showed up on the set wearing a red cape? :)
If yes, :eek:, who?

DEKNIGHT: I have no idea. But when I was directing, there was a guy in a gorilla suit. No kidding.

:supes:

tnx..
:)

[Super_Ludacris]

Deknight Lives! :eek:

Welcome to the Hype sir!

[Serene]

LOL...just an FYI..

You can hit the "Quote" box in the lower right hand corner of any post and the whole post will come up within a quote box.

THen just type your responses below that. Preview helps. ;)

[Steve DeKnight]

QUESTIONS FROM TRIPLET:


Me, the only things I think to ask are questions that came up about what the characters really know or how they knew it...


Did Lionel really not remember anything that happened during Transference?DEKNIGHT: Not a thing.

How much did Lex remember from Onyx?DEKNIGHT: Nothing that I know of.

How did Alicia learn about the red-k in Unsafe?DEKNIGHT: At one point in an early script she had an explanation about that. To be honest, I don't don't recall what it was or why it got cut.

I've always wondered about that and we never found out...

ETA:

Oh, a couple more things...

I loved Memoria. Loved it with a passion. It was such a beautifully shot episode and in addition to revealing tons about Lex and Lionel it even hinted that Clark's parents weren't the monsters Clark thought...


Will Clark ever get his own version of Memoria?

I mean, like a flashback episode where maybe we learn why Clark has some of the fears he does?DEKNIGHT: Sounds cool. Hope I get to write it.

Like:

Will we ever find out why (exactly) Clark hates heights?
Will we ever find out why he used to have nightmares when he was a boy?
Would Smallville ever do an AU episode where Clark maybe wasn't found by the Kents and show how things might have been different?DEKNIGHT: Don't know, don't know, maybe. We have talked about doing a What If epsiode where Lionel was the one to find baby Clark, and raised him as Lex's brother. Clark bad, Lex good. Sweet!


:supes:


:up:

I hope you like it 'round here so I hope you can come by from time to time...

[TKodami]

Steven DeKnight is here!! :eek: [/fangirl squeal of glee]


I check out your MySpace page every couple of days. Your answers to the Mercy questions were hilarious and enlightening. Thank you so much for taking time to answer the fans. We luv you for it. I'll miss ya when you crawl back into that hole that is real life & script-writing (I spent 14 hours the other day writing a measly 4 pages for my thesis--I know how bad of a time-impact writing can be). Mercy was a blast and I look forward to your season six eps. :)



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[avidreader]

Hey glad you could join us. Rene got the coffee brewing.

[triplet]

...maybe. We have talked about doing a What If epsiode where Lionel was the one to find baby Clark, and raised him as Lex's brother. Clark bad, Lex good. Sweet!


That would be sweet!

I would love to see that episode, I hope you get to write it!


:D :up: :supes:

I would also love to see a flashback/Memoria type episode for Clark...

[smsvmos]

(1)Mr. Deknight Is Clark Kent ever goin to dawn the suit in Smallville?

(2)What do u think of Superman Returns?

(3) Has the new movie effected the writing and story of Smallville?

[Steve DeKnight]

QUESTIONS FROM AVIDREADER:

Well I have thought some questions over. Here goes.

1. Who is your favourite character to write and why?

DEKNIGHT: Ask me again when the series is over. But I will say that MB is a real hoot...

2. Does Lana think that Clark is more than your average freak of the week? Sometimes she seems to realise that Clark is special and better than your average guy (i.e. Thirst, "when I bit you I felt what was in your heart") and then there are times that she seems to be totally clueless as to just who Clark Kent really is.

DEKNIGHT: I think she knows he's special, but just how special is a mystery. To me at least.l

3. Another question about Lana. Do the writers have a clear vision on what they want to do with this character? I've always put her erratic character development down to "a typical girl of her age" but then I sometimes wonder if its because no one really knows what to do with her.

DEKNIGHT: It's part teen erratic, finding yourself stuff, and part trying on different outfits to see what fits the best. In my opinion, anyway, which in no way reflects the opinions of Al, Miles, Warner Bros., or the WB.

4. I would love to see a flashback story to Clark's youth. How his parents had to deal with his emerging abilities and how they taught him to control them. Just a story covering all things Clark as a kid. Any chance of seeing something like this?

DEKNIGHT: Anything's possible. Might be a good JK flashback episode.

And finally I just want to add that in all my 40 odd years on this planet I have never loved a TV show and its characters as much as I do Smallville. You have truly brought all of these characters home to our hearts and I love watching the story progress week by week.

DEKNIGHT: Thanks! It's fans like you that keep us going.

:supes:

[Serene]

Hey glad you could join us. Rene got the coffee brewing.

Coffee nothing.. Teh bar is open! :p

http://www.stevesfrozenchillers.com/4%20drinks.jpg

[TKodami]

QUESTIONS FROM TRIPLET:
DEKNIGHT: Don't know, don't know, maybe. We have talked about doing a What If epsiode where Lionel was the one to find baby Clark, and raised him as Lex's brother. Clark bad, Lex good. Sweet!


That would be beautiful beyond words. A chance to see Lionel as the MB again, more Lionel-Clark interaction, Bad!Clark...I'm so there. :up: :D

[triplet]

Coffee nothing.. Teh bar is open! :p

http://www.stevesfrozenchillers.com/4%20drinks.jpg

Have one on me...

http://www.strawberry-recipes.com/images/Strawberry-Daiquiri.jpg

[avidreader]

DEKNIGHT: I think she knows he's special, but just how special is a mystery. To me at least.l


You dont know how special Clark is or you dont know if Lana knows how special Clark is. ;)

C'mon, its so obvious that he's :supes: Hee, hee.... to me at least.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

Coffee nothing.. Teh bar is open! :p

http://www.stevesfrozenchillers.com/4%20drinks.jpg

I might have just one and a coffee as well. Still feeling a bit queazy after last night. :O

[smsvmos]

More Questions :D :

(1) What do u guys have pland for season 6?

(2) How far do u think Smallville will last? till 6 or 7 season?

(3) Are we ever goin to see Zod?

[Steve DeKnight]

QUESTIONS FROM TKODAMI:


Avid, Serene and BaK have basically covered the (good) questions that I had, so I'm going to try to think up a couple on the fly:

1) Have the writers ever considered doing a large ensemble scene with all (or almost all) of the characters in one place for an extended period? Are there any budgetary constraints on doing a scene like this, or have the individual arcs of each character simply kept them apart?

DEKNIGHT: Yeah, it's a time problem. We have a limited number of hours we can shoot per day (usually around 12). The more people in a scene, the more coverage you need (shooting close ups, overs, etc on that actor). More coverage means more shooting time, so with each character you add into a scene, that scene takes exponentially longer to shoot. It's purely a numbers game.

2) Do you have a favorite action scene and/or set piece in the series? (Clark catching the elevator has definitely become one of my favorite. :up:)

DEKNIGHT: Two come to mind: Kal-El taking off in the premier last year, and Clark leaping onto the missile in Hidden. Soooo Superman! Amazing we could do that on TV.

3) Do you have a writing routine? Do you prefer to write during specific hours of the day? Are you a pencil-and-paper guy, a word-processor junkie, or both?

DEKNIGHT: I'm a computer guy. My routine is get up, eat, write until lunch, eat, write some more, take a nap, get up and start all over again until I collapse at the end of the night. Ah the life of a writer. Exciting, isn't it?!

4) What is your most harrowing experience of writing under a deadline?

DEKNIGHT: That would actually be on Buffy. I had three days to write Dead Things in Season Six, I believe. Only got a couple of hours of sleep. But it turned out to be my favorite ep that I wrote on that show.

Maybe I should just sleep less, huh? Lazy bastard.


:supes:

[rumpuso]

Hi there!

Who wrote the episode Vessel? And, how would you rate it based on previous Smallville season finales. I find myself skeptical that any finale could surpass Commencement. THAT was brilliant. But the buzz says that Vessel is the biggest finale yet. Without spoiling us too much, what are your thoughts? {We have so little spoilers to go on this year.)

[Serene]

I don't know if you'll get to this one.. it's okay if you don't, I think it's great that you're answering all that you are.. but I am wondering how often it is that you get up to Vancouver?

I assume that you mainly work out of L.A. but since the show is based in Vancouver do ever need to go there and be on set?
And do you get to party with the cast when you do? :D

(Okay, maybe that's just what *I* would do..) ;)

[Steve DeKnight]

QUESTIONS FROM AGENT PAT:




Lemme first say, I'm really quite happy with what's been done on the show so far. I have nitpicks here and there, but I understand the show is under certain constraints from various places and they simply don't have the latitude to just go sick.

That said, I have three "TINY" requests...

Please, for the love of everything Superman, get him OFF the ground, STAT!!! Ya folla? [/Robert Shaw] :D
DEKNIGHT: Flying is so incredibly expensive to do right. You'd still only see it once or twice a year. But it was damn cool, wasn't it?

More hints about the suit, its origin, design, and Clark's decision to wear something that for all intents and purposes, is really kind of .... silly. LOL SV is "grounded" in a very real word, albeit with superhuman characters. Why would the Clark we know choose to wear something like that - in public? I'm looking forward to seeing how SV tackles this very important aspect of Supes' origins. Oh, and btw, a note to wardrobe: Regarding SV's version of the costume, "K.I.S.S." ;)DEKNIGHT: I don't see what's silly about it at all. I'm wearing one right now. But seriously, folks, I agree. That'd be a cool bit of business.

And finally, no cop-outs for the show finale. None of this "we'll only see a streak" or "shirt rip" BS. All the way baby. Full deal. I want to see SV's Superman in all his glory, thankyaverymuch!!!DEKNIGHT: If I'm around when the show raps up, I'll see what I can do. But my contract only extends through Season Six. After that, I'm kinda hoping to be ruining my own show.




Other than that, I'm good. Rock on! You guys are AWESOME! There's a reason why this is true...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/iceberg.jpg


DEKNIGHT: So that's where all you fans are. I was wondering why my ass was wet. Hahahahahaha! I keed, I keed!

Mostly.

:supes:

:up:

[avidreader]

DEKNIGHT: If I'm around when the show raps up, I'll see what I can do. But my contract only extends through Season Six. After that, I'm kinda hoping to be ruining my own show.


That's a shame. I hope you stick around, your writing rocks. And I would just like to add that every time my 11 year old son gets out the Season 4 DVD set, Ageless is the first episode he watches and repeatedly.

[Super_Ludacris]

So many questions where do I start...lol

[TKodami]

DEKNIGHT: Yeah, it's a time problem. We have a limited number of hours we can shoot per day (usually around 12). The more people in a scene, the more coverage you need (shooting close ups, overs, etc on that actor). More coverage means more shooting time, so with each character you add into a scene, that scene takes exponentially longer to shoot. It's purely a numbers game.

Damn, there goes my hope of a L&C-esque episode where everyone's trapped by kidnappers/terrorists in Metropolis. :(


DEKNIGHT: Two come to mind: Kal-El taking off in the premier last year, and Clark leaping onto the missile in Hidden. Soooo Superman! Amazing we could do that on TV.

The missle jump on Hidden takes my breath away whenever I watch it. I am constantly amazed at what you guys can give us on a week-in, week-out basis. :up:

DEKNIGHT: I'm a computer guy. My routine is get up, eat, write until lunch, eat, write some more, take a nap, get up and start all over again until I collapse at the end of the night. Ah the life of a writer. Exciting, isn't it?!

Damnit, I'm missing the nap part! :D

I love the word processor--it truely it the holy grail of computer apps. I'm partial to keeping notes in a hard-bound journal while I'm using the computer. It feels like one medium is never enough.


DEKNIGHT: That would actually be on Buffy. I had three days to write Dead Things in Season Six, I believe. Only got a couple of hours of sleep. But it turned out to be my favorite ep that I wrote on that show.

Most impressive! I'm fifty-fifty on sleep-deprived writing. Some of it can be pure gold (especially because you get that jolt of, DID I WRITE THIS?! in the morning), but some of it deserves to be buried in steel drums in Nevada...::shudder::

Thank you for your answers, Mr. DeKnight. And keep up the good work--ah, hell, who am I kidding?--I'll luv ya no matter what. :D

[TKodami]

That's a shame. I hope you stick around, your writing rocks. And I would just like to add that every time my 11 year old son gets out the Season 4 DVD set, Ageless is the first episode he watches and repeatedly.

I'm actually a fan of Ageless too. I thought it was a sweet way of re-introducing the Clark-Lana romance that had been pretty non-existant during Season Four. :up:


Please, please don't hurt me with the pointy sticks. :O

[Super_Ludacris]

I got ya back homie! lol

[Steve DeKnight]

QUESTIONS FROM BRAINIAC 8:

Might as well mention a few of the questions I had.

Mr DeKight:

First off, I love the show! One of the best on tv.:up:

1) Do the writer's have a plan set out that is going to explain Jor-El and why he has acted the way he has in the past seasons. It's just really hard to see this Jor-El being the one that Clark grows to trust from the comics. Do they have a plan set out to explain this?

DEKNIGHT: Al and Miles do have some sort of plan. But I can't tell you what it is. I like my job.

2) I know that you have to work on an SFX budget per episode, but it seems we don't see Clark effectively use his powers as much as he used to. What do you think of this, and is this a concern at all to the writer's or producers?

DEKNIGHT: We'd love to have Clark whip out his powers all the time, but yes, the CGI is super expensive. And when we do a huge bit like the missile gag in Hidden, we run overbudget. Which means we have to make that money up by skimping on the powers in two or three epiosdes down the line. It's a vicious CGI circle.

3) Speaking of powers...when are we going to get to see his Super-Breath and for the love of god FLIGHT. Clark knows he has that ability in him, but we don't get to see him wonder about it or try it out any. Are we going to get to see any of these two?

DEKNIGHT: Flight explained earlier. Super-Breath coming up next season, we hope.

4) With as powerful as Milton Fine is and the fact that he gains a new ability every time we see him, why didn't he just off Lionel instead of trying to get Clark to?

DEKNIGHT: That really irritated me when I saw Oracle. In the last script I read Clark and Lionel pose the same question, and come to the conclusion that Fine couldn't get close to Lionel. Whatever Jor-El did to Lionel, it disrupts Fine's systems. In effect, Lionel is a weapon against Fine. That's why Fine was using Clark to do his dirty work. But all that got cut somehow. And that made us writer types look bad. Hate when that happens.

5) Will we ever get to see Lana learn of Clark's abilities? It would really help her to see how unfairly she has treated Clark throughout these last two seasons.

DEKNIGHT: I hope so, but it probably won't happen until late in the series.

6) Are there any other Superman Villains you would like to introduce in Smallville, and who are they?

DEKNIGHT: Bizzaro, Metallo, and Toy Man come to mind. Any other suggestions?


:supes:

[avidreader]

I'm actually a fan of Ageless too. I thought it was a sweet way of re-introducing the Clark-Lana romance that had been pretty non-existant during Season Four. :up:


Please, please don't hurt me with the pointy sticks. :O

I liked it too. I still think it may have worked better if they had found some way of keeping him as the little boy rather than booming into a teenager.

[Steve DeKnight]

LOL...just an FYI..

You can hit the "Quote" box in the lower right hand corner of any post and the whole post will come up within a quote box.

THen just type your responses below that. Preview helps. ;)


I'll get the hang of this one day.

[Serene]

I liked it too. I still think it may have worked better if they had found some way of keeping him as the little boy rather than booming into a teenager.
But can you imagine how much worse it would have come off then when they blew him up?? LOL...

I'll get the hang of this one day.
Actually, you're doing great. :up:

[avidreader]

5) Will we ever get to see Lana learn of Clark's abilities? It would really help her to see how unfairly she has treated Clark throughout these last two seasons.

DEKNIGHT: I hope so, but it probably won't happen until late in the series.


Okay, that just makes me wanna scream. Its so long over due, I feel it really drags her storyline down. Please say your teasing. :)

But I will be patient and see what you guys have planned.

[TKodami]

I got ya back homie! lol

Hehee, thanks. :)


I liked it too. I still think it may have worked better if they had found some way of keeping him as the little boy rather than booming into a teenager.

You have my complete agreement there; the kid-version was definitely cuter than the teen-version. :D

[smsvmos]

DEKNIGHT: Bizzaro, Metallo, and Toy Man come to mind. Any other suggestions?

Yea Kenny Braverman A.K.A Conduit

[avidreader]

But can you imagine how much worse it would have come off then when they blew him up?? LOL...

Well we could have seen a more obvious aging process during the final moments. I dunno, it just seemed that the kid was a better actor and more identifiable character than the teenager.

[triplet]

I like the insights into your process, Steve... one of my favorite books was on Stephen King's writing, On Writing...

I also really like Adventures in the Screen Trade for the same reasons, it's interesting to see how different people work...

I start out with scene cards the rest is all on the confuser... ;) :up:

[Steve DeKnight]

Steven DeKnight is here!! :eek: [/fangirl squeal of glee]


I check out your MySpace page every couple of days. Your answers to the Mercy questions were hilarious and enlightening. Thank you so much for taking time to answer the fans. We luv you for it. I'll miss ya when you crawl back into that hole that is real life & script-writing (I spent 14 hours the other day writing a measly 4 pages for my thesis--I know how bad of a time-impact writing can be). Mercy was a blast and I look forward to your season six eps. :)



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I can't spell worth a damn either. Very embarrassing. Thanks for dropping by MySpace. Did you sign up as one of my friends? 'Cause you know Brian K. Vaughn is beating me ten to one. Bastard.


Shamless BKV plug: If any of you out there aren't reading Y: The Last Man, run out and get the trade paperbacks immediately! Pure genius!

:supes:

[Steve DeKnight]

I like the insights into your process, Steve... one of my favorite books was on Stephen King's writing, On Writing...

I also really like Adventures in the Screen Trade for the same reasons, it's interesting to see how different people work...

I start out with scene cards the rest is all on the confuser... ;) :up:

My confuser runs 24-7.

[Serene]

Shamless BKV plug: If any of you out there aren't reading Y: The Last Man, run out and get the trade paperbacks immediately! Pure genius!

:supes:

I've read the first 3 so far.. Someone needs to seriously make a film out of that series, it's wildly entertaining. Do something about that, will ya? ;)

Preacher, too. Tom would be great cast in the lead, btw.

[avidreader]

I created an account at your MySpace, and then I couldnt remember what user name I gave myself and now I'm really confused.

[TKodami]

I can't spell worth a damn either. Very embarrassing. Thanks for dropping by MySpace. Did you sign up as one of my friends? 'Cause you know Brian K. Vaughn is beating me ten to one. Bastard.


Shamless BKV plug: If any of you out there aren't reading Y: The Last Man, run out and get the trade paperbacks immediately! Pure genius!

:supes:

::scampers off to sign up for myspace:: :O

[Super_Ludacris]

I might have to do the same thing.

[AgentPat]

Flying is so incredibly expensive to do right. You'd still only see it once or twice a year. But it was damn cool, wasn't it?Yeah, wicked cool! And a few times per season is FINE. Clark doesn't even talk about it, which is re-heeeely weird. He knows he could do it when he was Kal-El. We also know Clark is afraid of heights. But to not wonder about it is ... I dunno, weird. Also, flying doesn't have to be catching planes and missiles. I'd squeal just to see Clark hover - intentionally, and not during some dream sequence. I'd like to see Clark's reaction (a mixture of excitement and petrified horror) the first time it happens.

If I'm around when the show raps up, I'll see what I can do. But my contract only extends through Season Six. After that, I'm kinda hoping to be ruining my own show.Hee! Have you guys gotten the S6 order yet? 'Cause it sounds like you're already planning for a S7? LOL Rock on! ;) :up:

[Steve DeKnight]

(1)Mr. Deknight Is Clark Kent ever goin to dawn the suit in Smallville?

(2)What do u think of Superman Returns?

(3) Has the new movie effected the writing and story of Smallville?


1.) He might pull on the suit at the very end, but not until.

2.) Looks beautiful. I'm going.

3.) Yes. The show has to in some way jive with the movie. For instance, Pa Kent is dead in the movie, so we couldn't just decide to kill Martha and let JK live in the series.


:supes:

[Serene]

I have one (myspace page).. but it's pretty pathetic.. I only have 4 friends! LOL..

But I do have a nice Supes picture and the Five for Fighting Supes song on it.

[Pixiedust]

Hi there!

Who wrote the episode Vessel? And, how would you rate it based on previous Smallville season finales. I find myself skeptical that any finale could surpass Commencement. THAT was brilliant. But the buzz says that Vessel is the biggest finale yet. Without spoiling us too much, what are your thoughts? {We have so little spoilers to go on this year.)

Yeah, I agree. I don't know how they top Commencement but I am very eager to see them give it a good try. I've not been disappointed in a finale yet.

[rumpuso]

Hee! Have you guys gotten the S6 order yet? 'Cause it sounds like you're already planning for a S7? LOL Rock on! ;) :up:
I wish Smallville would get a renewal notice for 2 years rather than year by year...you know, like Gilmore Girls and 7th Heaven have gotten in the past. I wish I wish I wish!

[GothicPowerMix1]

I'd squeal just to see Clark hover - intentionally, and not during some dream sequence.

We got that in the 100th Episode. While it was a bit more then hovering but it was intentional him doing what he did

[triplet]

My confuser runs 24-7.

In college, my script writing prof pushed the scene card method and I can't seem to shake it... tried to once and it didn't go very well.

I wish Final Draft would let you type directly into the scene cards before you start actually writing the script... that would rule, but I think they'd have to make a major change to the UI for them to do that...

I mean, I've lost cards but I've rarely lost files.... backing up is so ingrained...

[mellyM]

DEKNIGHT: That really irritated me when I saw Oracle. In the last script I read Clark and Lionel pose the same question, and come to the conclusion that Fine couldn't get close to Lionel. Whatever Jor-El did to Lionel, it disrupts Fine's systems. In effect, Lionel is a weapon against Fine. That's why Fine was using Clark to do his dirty work. But all that got cut somehow. And that made us writer types look bad. Hate when that happens.
I thought it was pretty clear that's what happened in Oracle, even without a big explanation, and I assumed thats why he needed Clark, because when Lionel touched him he went poof.

[avidreader]

I have one (myspace page).. but it's pretty pathetic.. I only have 4 friends! LOL..

But I do have a nice Supes picture and the Five for Fighting Supes song on it.

Give me a link. I'll join. I just need to write down my username. :O

[Steve DeKnight]

Hi there!

Who wrote the episode Vessel? And, how would you rate it based on previous Smallville season finales. I find myself skeptical that any finale could surpass Commencement. THAT was brilliant. But the buzz says that Vessel is the biggest finale yet. Without spoiling us too much, what are your thoughts? {We have so little spoilers to go on this year.)

Vessel was written by Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson. I honestly haven't seen it or read the final script (most of the writers were off on hiatus before it was locked down). But what I heard of it during the break was awesome. Very, very cool. I can't wait to see it.

[TKodami]

...Myspace mystifies me...:o

I guess it wasn't meant to be...

[Steve DeKnight]

I don't know if you'll get to this one.. it's okay if you don't, I think it's great that you're answering all that you are.. but I am wondering how often it is that you get up to Vancouver?

I assume that you mainly work out of L.A. but since the show is based in Vancouver do ever need to go there and be on set?
And do you get to party with the cast when you do? :D

(Okay, maybe that's just what *I* would do..) ;)

I'm only up in Vancouver when I direct or there's a *****in' party going on, like the 100th epsiode bash (Rosenbaum belting out a tune in an Elvis wig was priceless). Otherwise, they keep me chained to my desk.

Call the policccccce!



:supes:

[Steve DeKnight]

...Myspace mystifies me...:o

I guess it wasn't meant to be...

Don't give up! BKV is whuppin' my ass!

[triplet]

Don't give up! BKV is whuppin' my ass!

You having a friending contest?

No way you guys are going to beat Carson Daley... I think he has tens of thousands of friends but he pimped his account on his show.

[rumpuso]

Don't give up! BKV is whuppin' my ass!
Gotta give you credit for opening up the doors for us onliners. Great scott! You must be bombarded with strange/interesting/obssesive people. Lots and lots of strange people.

[Serene]

Gotta give you credit for opening up the doors for us onliners. Great scott! You must be bombarded with strange/interesting/obssesive people. Lots and lots of strange people.

Aw, c'mon Rump.. are you implying that some of the fans are.. strange and obsessive?

Oh, wait.
:O ;)

[Super_Ludacris]

understatement of the milenium

[rumpuso]

Aw, c'mon Rump.. are you implying that some of the fans are.. strange and obsessive?

Oh, wait.
:O ;)
Now why on earth would I imply that (and exclude myself??) :)

[triplet]

:D :up: :supes:

[Serene]

Now why on earth would I imply that (and exclude myself??) :)
That's just part of why we luv ya.... :up:

[Steve DeKnight]

You having a friending contest?

No way you guys are going to beat Carson Daley... I think he has tens of thousands of friends but he pimped his account on his show.


No way I'll ever be as popular as BKV. He is a god among men. But drop by my page anyway. I'm thinking about starting up a forum devoted to writing in television. If any of you are interested, I'll give you the inside scoop.

Plus I'll be handing out those tasty Smallville treats that I know you love!

Okay, gotta bolt. In true Hollywood fashion, the writer of Blue Crush is bringing her dogs over for a playdate with my puppy. How sick is that? One more MySpace plug:

http://www.myspace.com/stevendeknight

Hope to see you there. If not, I'll try to stop by SHH from time to time to rattle your collective cages.

Peace out,
DeKnight

:ghost:

[triplet]

That's just part of why we luv ya.... :up:

Too funny....

:D

[avidreader]

Hope to see you there. If not, I'll try to stop by SHH from time to time to rattle your collective cages.

Peace out,
DeKnight

:ghost:

Thanks for coming. :)

[triplet]

No way I'll ever be as popular as BKV. He is a god among men. But drop by my page anyway. I'm thinking about starting up a forum devoted to writing in television. If any of you are interested, I'll give you the inside scoop.

Plus I'll be handing out those tasty Smallville treats that I know you love!

Okay, gotta bolt. In true Hollywood fashion, the writer of Blue Crush is bringing her dogs over for a playdate with my puppy. How sick is that? One more MySpace plug:

http://www.myspace.com/stevendeknight

Hope to see you there. If not, I'll try to stop by SHH from time to time to rattle your collective cages.

Peace out,
DeKnight

:ghost:

I've been to your myspace, you even replied to a post or two of mine but I'm sure you've replied to so many you may not remember (I'm Cindy over there with an image of the three of us as four year olds as my icon.)

BTW: I'd be all over a good writing forum... So I'd join up.

Haven't found a good one that isn't filled with posers who post total bs for advice since project greenlight's forums closed down... (There were a lot of posers there as well, but I got some good advice there too unlike Joblo.com's forums or even done deal's....)

Thanks for playing, Steve...

:up:

[Serene]

Hope to see you there. If not, I'll try to stop by SHH from time to time to rattle your collective cages.


The door's alway open. :D

Thank you so much for stopping by. It's a real treat for us SV fans to get feedback someone "official."

:up::supes:

[TKodami]

I've been to your myspace, you even replied to a post or two of mine but I'm sure you've replied to so many you may not remember (I'm Cindy over there with an image of the three of us as four year olds as my icon.)

BTW: I'd be all over a good writing forum... So I'd join up.

Haven't found a good one that isn't filled with posers who post total bs for advice since project greenlight's forums closed down... (There were a lot of posers there as well, but I got some good advice there too unlike Joblo.com's forums or even done deal's....)

Thanks for playing, Steve...

:up:

A writing forum would be awesome, but it's almost flawed in concept--since by spending your time posting, you're not spending it on your writing projects...

Okay, so maybe it's just me who gets completely derailed from my projects this way. :O

Nevertheless, if SDK starts up a writing forum, I will be there in an instant.


I gave up on myspace for now. I'll try my hand at it again tomorrow, when my brain isn't moosh.

[Brainiac 8]

No way I'll ever be as popular as BKV. He is a god among men. But drop by my page anyway. I'm thinking about starting up a forum devoted to writing in television. If any of you are interested, I'll give you the inside scoop.

Plus I'll be handing out those tasty Smallville treats that I know you love!

Okay, gotta bolt. In true Hollywood fashion, the writer of Blue Crush is bringing her dogs over for a playdate with my puppy. How sick is that? One more MySpace plug:

http://www.myspace.com/stevendeknight

Hope to see you there. If not, I'll try to stop by SHH from time to time to rattle your collective cages.

Peace out,
DeKnight

:ghost:


Looks like I'll have to join now.

Thanks for taking the time, it's a testament to your craft that you came to talk. Hope you can join us again soon.:up:

[Brainiac 8]

Okay, that just makes me wanna scream. Its so long over due, I feel it really drags her storyline down. Please say your teasing. :)

But I will be patient and see what you guys have planned.

I'll patiently wait too, but please, she needs to find out so she can move on.

[BaK]

well, that was interesting.. :)

and who th is this BKV guy ???
guessing another buffy alumni..

tnx a lot Steve,
and don't forget to write! :)

[AgentPat]

and who th is this BKV guy ???I was gonna ask that myself, but I didn't want to come off... stupid. Now I don't feel so bad. LOL


That was a great little chat. I hope he's able to come back sometime in the future. :up: :)

[green]

and who th is this BKV guy ???



http://www.bkv.tv/

[triplet]

Interesting site... thanks, green.

:D :up:

[AgentPat]

Did that guy ever write for SV? I'm not getting the connection (other than his being a comic writer.) :confused:

[Serene]

http://www.bkv.tv/
Thanks for the link!

I think that maybe they are just friends? Anyway, SD wasn't kidding about "Y: The Last Man" being an awesome read. I haven't finished the series yet, but I highly recommend it.

On the site linked above.. you can read the first installment of Y in a .pdf file here: http://www.dccomics.com/media/excerpts/1736_x_1.pdf.

Free stuff is always cool. :)

[Lara]

AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! I can't believe I missed out on this =( I'm just too freak'n busy anymore. This really sucks. I have to start paying closer attention.

[Serene]

AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! I can't believe I missed out on this =( I'm just too freak'n busy anymore. This really sucks. I have to start paying closer attention.
Sorry we missed you, Lara.

You really have been kind of scarce around here lately. I miss you! :)

[Spider-Gamer]

I missed this? That blows. Oh well most of the questions asked were the same as mine so it is all good. :o

[The Incredible Hulk]

damn I go away on one weekend of debauchery and I miss out on getting to ask questions to an actual writer of the show? :(

Very cool of Steve to come here and do that. I'm sure I could ask him questions for the next few months straight, but all of you guys seemed to hit most of what I would have asked. I've been dying to know about Super Breath so whoever asked that, thanks!

I'll have to go checkout Steve's MySpace page when I get home. I didnt realize real people actually used that. I thought it was just perverts and 15 year old emo kids who want you to know their favorite band was Dashboard Confessional. LOL :D

One thing I wouldve have loved to have known was what his view on the whole "Clark Kent/Superman, who's the real person?" debate, and how the other writers of the show view it. It actually will play into the final outcome of the series more than we think.

[Brainiac 8]

Yes, the Superbreath was my question, thank you, thank you...no autographs please.:D

Yea, that was one thing I just had to ask about.

[AgentPat]

Yes, the Superbreath was my question, thank you, thank you...no autographs please.:D

Yea, that was one thing I just had to ask about.:up:

I hope they do an ep about it *early* in the season, and I hope they get Beeman or Marshall to direct it. Other than flight, it's the last hurrah for "new" powers, so they need to do it well.

[Serene]

I think SD is an exceedingly nice man. Even out of public-eye, he was very kind.

Funny as hell, too. :D

[thebigtree95]

One thing I would have loved to have known was what his view on the whole "Clark Kent/Superman, who's the real person?" debate, and how the other writers of the show view it. It actually will play into the final outcome of the series more than we think.

I think I've seen a quote from Al Gough on that. I'll have to look around.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'd also like to know if they plan on having any more Superman alumni in episodes next season like Gene Hackman, Sarah Douglas, etc? That would be awesome if you had Hackman as someone who was instrumental in someway to Lex's development, and it'd be really cool to see Sarah Douglas play Lara, it's about time she showed up in one form or another at the FoS. They've never really touched on her since Memoria.

[avidreader]

I'd also like to know if they plan on having any more Superman alumni in episodes next season like Gene Hackman, Sarah Douglas, etc? That would be awesome if you had Hackman as someone who was instrumental in someway to Lex's development, and it'd be really cool to see Sarah Douglas play Lara, it's about time she showed up in one form or another at the FoS. They've never really touched on her since Memoria.

I always thought Sara Douglas playing Lara would be cool. She kind of has the look of Tom Welling about her too. Big eyes, chiselled bone structure, dark hair. :up:

[Brainiac 8]

I always thought Sara Douglas playing Lara would be cool. She kind of has the look of Tom Welling about her too. Big eyes, chiselled bone structure, dark hair. :up:

I would be ok with that, but I've wanted Hackman on the show since they had Chris Reeve. How cool would it have been if they made him Morgan Edge.:up:

[avidreader]

I would be ok with that, but I've wanted Hackman on the show since they had Chris Reeve. How cool would it have been if they made him Morgan Edge.:up:

Yeah that would have been great, but I like the actor they chose. I dont think I've ever seen Gene Hackman do television, so we probably wont get to see him. :(

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hackman did do TV a while back, the last time was back in the 90's I think. He however hasnt been in a movie since 2004, so I think he may have retired. He might want to get out of the house for a day or two, who knows. He is 76 though, so he's getting up there.....

[NHawk19]

Damn I have to log in on the weekends more often :mad:

How'd I miss that one . .

[triplet]

damn I go away on one weekend of debauchery and I miss out on getting to ask questions to an actual writer of the show? :(

Very cool of Steve to come here and do that. I'm sure I could ask him questions for the next few months straight, but all of you guys seemed to hit most of what I would have asked. I've been dying to know about Super Breath so whoever asked that, thanks!

I'll have to go checkout Steve's MySpace page when I get home. I didnt realize real people actually used that. I thought it was just perverts and 15 year old emo kids who want you to know their favorite band was Dashboard Confessional. LOL :D

One thing I wouldve have loved to have known was what his view on the whole "Clark Kent/Superman, who's the real person?" debate, and how the other writers of the show view it. It actually will play into the final outcome of the series more than we think.

He's now answering writing type questions on his "Sell your soul for fun and profit blog"...

Too funny.

He's good and has some good suggestions.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I setup a myspace page (I feel like a perv for some reason) and he added me as a friend!

www.myspace.com/superhulk75

[AgentPat]

Hackman did do TV a while back, the last time was back in the 90's I think. He however hasn't been in a movie since 2004, so I think he may have retired. He might want to get out of the house for a day or two, who knows. He is 76 though, so he's getting up there.....Well, it's not like he's 82...

Eh. Who knows? It might simply be a matter of location and salary. I don't know where he lives (LA, maybe?), but if they took the mountain to Mohammed - like they did with Reeve in Legacy - maybe he'd do it. I'd imagine he doesn't come cheap though. This is Gene Hackman, after all. Not Dean Cain.

[The Incredible Hulk]

according to IMDB he lives in New Mexico

[triplet]

I setup a myspace page (I feel like a perv for some reason) and he added me as a friend!

www.myspace.com/superhulk75 (http://www.myspace.com/superhulk75)

I just asked to be your friend...

:D ;)

[avidreader]

I just asked to be your friend...

:D ;)

How do I ask Steve if I can be his friend? I've been all over his MySpace and I cant see how to do it anywhere.

I wanted to ask Hulk too, but I cant figure that one out either. I think I'm missing something here.

[The Incredible Hulk]

look for the bare chested Tom with the word "Add" in red on the left... ;)

I'll add you guys when I get home later, no access to that site at work. :(

[avidreader]

look for the bare chested Tom with the word "Add" in red on the left... ;)

Thanks, but by doing that it looked like I was asking Steve to be my friend. ;)

I wanna be his. :(

I'll add you guys when I get home later, no access to that site at work. :(

I'll give yours a go.

[NHawk19]

My Space is in my sig request away folks

Oh and if you go into groups there's a Hype Listing.

[NHawk19]

How do I ask Steve if I can be his friend? I've been all over his MySpace and I cant see how to do it anywhere.

I wanted to ask Hulk too, but I cant figure that one out either. I think I'm missing something here.

Under the box with the photo's is a place that says add as a friend just click on it and a request will go to that person. When they accept you're added as a friend on their list and they on yours.

If you give me your address I'll send you an add request so you can see what they get.

[avidreader]

Under the box with the photo's is a place that says add as a friend just click on it and a request will go to that person. When they accept you're added as a friend on their list and they on yours.

If you give me your address I'll send you an add request so you can see what they get.

My email address, or should I click on your MySpace?

[NHawk19]

My email address, or should I click on your MySpace?

If you give me the email attached to your my space account I should be able to find you and send you the request.

If you want to just add me you can click on the My Space in my sig. Then do what I said above.

[Serene]

Since I'm a big loser with only 4 friends and NO comments.. I'm going to have to add all you guys. :D
Guess I should change my name on my myspace so people will recognize me. I'm currently using my h.s. nickname.

[NHawk19]

Since I'm a big loser with only 4 friends and NO comments.. I'm going to have to add all you guys. :D
Guess I should change my name on my myspace so people will recognize me. I'm currently using my h.s. nickname.

Go right ahead 'rene I'm on now.

[Serene]

My email address, or should I click on your MySpace?
Avid.. I need your myspace address...

[NHawk19]

She's on mine as Sue . . . you can click on it that way if you want.

Did I decline by accident? :confused: I'm sorry if I did. Care to resend the request and I promise to pay attention this time.

[Serene]

Did I decline by accident? :confused: I'm sorry if I did. Care to resend the request and I promise to pay attention this time.

You declined ME? :mad: :(

I'll ask again..

Got Sue's.. thanks.

[NHawk19]

You declined ME? :mad: :(

I'll ask again..

Got Sue's.. thanks.

make me feel worse I see :(

*sniff*

[RakuMon]

I always thought Sara Douglas playing Lara would be cool. She kind of has the look of Tom Welling about her too. Big eyes, chiselled bone structure, dark hair. :up:

Interestingly, I had Sara Douglas as Lara in that fanfic adaptation of Birthright I wrote last year. I really have been meaning to continue that...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5447791&postcount=25

Here's the cast list for Birthright:

Clark Kent - Tom Welling
Lana Lang - Kristen Kreuk
Lex Luthor - Michael Rosenbaum
Chloe Sullivan - Allison Mack
Lionel Luthor - John Glover
Martha Kent - Annette O'Toole
Jonathan Kent - John Schneider

FEATURING
Lois Lane - Erica Durance
Kobe Asuru - Joseph Marcell
Abena Asuru - Sophie Okonedo
Perry White - Micheal McKean
Dr. Hamilton - Joe Morton
Jor-El - Terrence Stamp
Lara - Sarah Douglas

[RakuMon]

Since I'm a big loser with only 4 friends and NO comments.. I'm going to have to add all you guys. :D
Guess I should change my name on my myspace so people will recognize me. I'm currently using my h.s. nickname.
What is your MySpace alias?

[Serene]

make me feel worse I see :(

*sniff*
*hugs* Just teasin' ya.. It worked.

This is so funny that I have one of these now. There was a HUGE controversy at all the schools around here over kids posting really bad stuff in their myspace's and getting in trouble over it. So, of course, I had to get my kids' myspace addresses and check them out. BUT, there is no way I'm going to let them know that I have one now too! LOL..

[Serene]

What is your MySpace alias?

Well if I told you, then it wouldn't be much of an alias anymore, now would it? ;)

Actually I just changed it. I'm very easy to find now.

[NHawk19]

*hugs* Just teasin' ya.. It worked.

This is so funny that I have one of these now. There was a HUGE controversy at all the schools around here over kids posting really bad stuff in their myspace's and getting in trouble over it. So, of course, I had to get my kids' myspace addresses and check them out. BUT, there is no way I'm going to let them know that I have one now too! LOL..

I just opened it about a week ago. . .some friends of mine convinced me that it would be a good idea.

Saw all those news stories and kindof felt like Hulk did. Now it's kind of fun to see who's out there in the world.

[triplet]

Since I'm a big loser with only 4 friends and NO comments.. I'm going to have to add all you guys. :D
Guess I should change my name on my myspace so people will recognize me. I'm currently using my h.s. nickname.

I'm not doing much better...

:D

I just commented on your myspace, now you need to return the favor.

:p

[Spider-Gamer]

The Myspace disease is affecting everyone! :eek:

[avidreader]

You declined ME? :mad: :(

I'll ask again..

Got Sue's.. thanks.

Did you find me under Sue? Cause I cant remember what username I gave myself. :o

Is that the post you made this morning? I want to go back and read that when I have some time.