One year later, and with two months to go, where do you stand?

[Excel]

Hard to believe but wow. its already been a year since :

http://boxofficemojo.com/images/supermanreturns_prstory.jpg

thats a year of " the colors are too red", " the s is too small", " he isnt big enough".

The summer movie season is here. Mi3 mega opening is just days away, and Superman Returns as one of the seasons most anticpated flicks. The marketing frenzy is just days away as well-and boy will it big-but here what I say: In final pre summer week, with superman 2 months away, the marketing blitz and hype n th everge of eruption, how hyped are you for this film? How much are looking forward to this?

[Showtime]

I will be there opening weekend. I will probably see the movie 3 or 4 times with a different group of people each time.

[son of jorel]

man i'm converted that first pic i hated but each and every pic since has made me more eager than ever to see this film

[TheSuperBatFan]

I'm definitely hoping for a midnight screening, but it all depends on my friends. I'm the only fanatic, so it depends on if I can convince them to join my fellow crazy Superman fans for the midnight screening, and also if it means having to come into the city or not.

[Oldguy]

Im gonna wait till i see the trailer before I decide whether or not to take Showtimes up on his offer to pay for my ticket.

[Mr. Thing]

Around here, if you go to a midnight showing, when you come out you're gonna get mugged or something. I'll be there opening weekend.

[GothicPowerMix1]

I'll be there First Showing Opening Day

[Agentdemon]

At midnight I will be there then 2 more times with other friends.

[Immortalfire]

a year of " the colors are too red", They're not red at all.

But I'll still be there.

[Oldguy]

They're not red at all.

But I'll still be there.

Sir, that is one fine ah-vatar.:up:

[Corben_Rulz]

Wasn't it just yesterday that the ticker said 365 days to go? Ugh, time and life are just crazy. . .

[Zor-El]

I'll be there at midnight :up:

[Showtime]

Im gonna wait till i see the trailer before I decide whether or not to take Showtimes up on his offer to pay for my ticket.

Was the offer, I would pay for your ticket if you didn't like it? I forget?

[Rob-el]

Hugely physched! I'm taking the 30th off, will be at the (hopeful) midnight showing the 29th/30th at a regular theatre and will be taking in the first 3D-IMAX show the next day then follow that up with a couple of more shows that day. I'll probably take it in five times by the end of the first full day.

[VGPOP]

For the first time ever, I will see a movie at the theater more than once.

I will be there opening midnight (probably alone). In this case, I will be so excited that I'm just happy to see the movie

I will also go see it the same day Opening night with my g/f and ALL her families. In this case since I've seen the movie, I will try to see their reaction to the movie.

I will go a third time perhaps Monday July 3rd in which people will take this day as THE holiday to see the movie. In this case, my job here will be to look at every single scence without moving an inch. And what I mean by that is to study and understand every single scene and what the movie REALLY brought to the public.

I will go a fourth time to see if there any ERRORS in the movie. I will try to catch any errors Singer might have overlooked and post it here if no one else have done it. And I'm talking about if in one scene, Clark is weating glasses, for example, and the next scence you see him with different glasses or without it, stuff like that.

In the following weeks, I will go to see OTHER movies, but I will PAY for Superman Returns. :) So in the end when it's all said and done, I'll probably contribute about $200 for the movie.

[Venom71]

I voted opening day but if their is one near me and I can get to it I will be at the Midnight showing and then see it again later on that day most likely!

[Visionary]

I was hyped until you put that pic up.:(

[Showtime]

I voted opening day but if their is one near me and I can get to it I will be at the Midnight showing and then see it again later on that day most likely!

Fantastic. Sweet anticipation, aye Venom?

[Venom71]

Fantastic. Sweet anticipation, aye Venom?
Yes! :up:

[Bat Attack]

10-ill be there at midnight

[joeyboyy44]

I'll be there at midnight then at the IMAX theater on Friday with the kids

[Kal-el_from_Rio]

i'm gonna watch SR everyday since the opening night until I reach 100 views... Guinness Book 2007 for sure.... I'll keep all my tickets... been waiting for this since 1997...

Can't wait... on the opening night I'll be in full costume and ipod with speakers playing the Superman Theme...

[TRUE]

ill be there opening day

[Jamiew]

Yeah, I'll be there.

Sorry to go off topic, but has the trailer been shown yet? If not, when is it getting shown?

Thanks!

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I'll be there if I have to go alone, which is looking likely nowadays. I'll see it for free since the Superman TAS v3 will have a free ticket!:up:

[Showtime]

Free is the only way to go. Nice.

[Alonsovich]

Meh...:o

[Superman4ever]

I love how the title of this thread is "One Year Later". :D :up:

BTW, I'm there midnight!

[Lone]

I love how the title of this thread is "One Year Later". :D :up:

Pretty fitting title too...not all of us who were here last yr(or the years before that) are around anymore..

[The Riddler]

i'm not looking foward to this film at all and i hope it blows.

everyone i know doesn't even know this movie is coming out.

how pathetic.

[Showtime]

i'm not looking foward to this film at all and i hope it blows.

everyone i know doesn't even know this movie is coming out.

how pathetic.

Nobody needs to know yet really, and how many people do you actually know? When the marketing hits in May everyone will know. It doesn't matter if all people don't like it, it will make it's money either way.

[Cinemaman]

I will be go to see it on July 20th at 9:00-10:00, it will be premiere day in our country.

I cant wait for this!

[SolidSnakeMGS]

i'm not looking foward to this film at all and i hope it blows.

everyone i know doesn't even know this movie is coming out.

how pathetic.

Why would someone post their highly dubious and questionable desire for a movie to fail? Heck, why would someone WANT a movie to fail??

Since you're so disinterested -- no, I'd say downright hostile towards the movie, I doubt you waste your oh-so valuable time going around polling people about their awareness of this movie.

Yes, pathetic is about right.

[The Riddler]

Why would someone post their highly dubious and questionable desire for a movie to fail? Heck, why would someone WANT a movie to fail??

Since you're so disinterested -- no, I'd say downright hostile towards the movie, I doubt you waste your oh-so valuable time going around polling people about their awareness of this movie.

Yes, pathetic is about right.
it's gonna have some box office success because it's superman but after riding out its name, it won't exceed much more than 180 million.

this movie looks ridiculous.

[Nightwing1977]

i'm not looking foward to this film at all and i hope it blows.



Why even post here then? In fact, you're not a Superman fan if you want this movie to blow when it not done your way.

everyone i know doesn't even know this movie is coming out.



Well, duh! Doesn't mean it could make the movie a failure thought.

how pathetic.



Not pathetic as someone who is hoping this movie fail & act like a Superman fan. :rolleyes:

[Cinemaman]

Why even post here then? In fact, you're not a Superman fan if you want this movie to blow when it not done your way.



Well, duh! Doesn't mean it could make the movie a failure thought.



Not pathetic as someone who is hoping this movie fail & act like a Superman fan. :rolleyes:

:) :up:

[Mentok]

it's gonna have some box office success because it's superman but after riding out its name, it won't exceed much more than 180 million.

this movie looks ridiculous.

ROFL... You basically described BATMAN BEGINS :o

[Excel]

ridler im batman fan, but ill tell you, this will get atleast 250 milion in the us unless something goes horribly wrong.

[The Riddler]

ROFL... You basically described BATMAN BEGINS :o
you'd be sorely mistaken because batman begins was actually a good movie and the only reason it surpassed 200 million was because it was a good film.

batman begins doesn't have the type of audience a spider-man or superman type film will have because of a whole bunch of reasons i don't feel like listing.

also, to the average person and just about EVERYONE i know, the superman suit looks pretty bad.

i won't be surprised if superman returns surpasses batman begins' numbers at the box office because frankly, begins did pretty bad.

i just think this movie is gonna suck. anything over 300 million at the box office is impossible for this film.

[The Riddler]

ridler im batman fan, but ill tell you, this will get atleast 250 milion in the us unless something goes horribly wrong.
i won't dispute the fact it can easily gross 250 million dollars, but i also won't be surprised if it didn't.

[Cinemaman]

SR will be great and epic move, which also will make more than $300m domesticly and $700m in worldwide.

I believe in this.

It can be.

[블라스]

Pffft, this Riddler dude is also posting this in the Superman game thread, Games Forums :o

Give it a rest, guy :o

[The Riddler]

Why even post here then? In fact, you're not a Superman fan if you want this movie to blow when it not done your way.
i'm not a superman fan. i just wanted to say what i thought about the outlook of this film.

Not pathetic as someone who is hoping this movie fail & act like a Superman fan. :rolleyes:
because i'm not a superman fan and because i'm a jerk, i do hope this movie sucks. :up:

[The Riddler]

SR will be great and epic move, which also will make more than $300m domesticly and $700m in worldwide.

I believe in this.

It can be.
i will be the first to say i'm wrong if it does do that, but superman isn't spider-man. :rolleyes:

[Cinemaman]

i'm not a superman fan. i just wanted to say what i thought about the outlook of this film.


because i'm not a superman fan and because i'm a jerk, i do hope this movie sucks. :up:

I think you have some problems wiyh your mind :up:

[Cinemaman]

i will be the first to say i'm wrong if it does do that, but superman isn't spider-man. :rolleyes:

Yep, SR is greater than Spidey.

[The Riddler]

Pffft, this Riddler dude is also posting this in the Superman game thread, Games Forums :o

Give it a rest, guy :o
i just post what i think when i think it.

i like your name, btw.

[블라스]

That's refreshing, everyone hated the V2 part :confused:

[The Riddler]

I think you have some problems wiyh your mind :up:
i read the post over.

there's nothing that would even slightly hitn at any problems with my mind.

perhaps, to a superman fan like you, you maybe be disillusioned.

[The Riddler]

That's refreshing, everyone hated the V2 part :confused:
i think it represents you quite well.

[The Riddler]

Yep, SR is greater than Spidey.
yeah, sure.

it's impossible to compare now, but spider-man's box office numbers are mammoth.

i don't think you remember just how lucrative they actually were.

[War Lord]

My personal schedule doesn't allow me to see it in theatres, except when the movies go to the cheapies, because those theatres have midnight showings and are accessible to me.

So, as much as I'd love to see it within the first weekend, there is no way that is going to happen.

[Cinemaman]

i read the post over.

there's nothing that would even slightly hitn at any problems with my mind.

perhaps, to a superman fan like you, you maybe be disillusioned.

Did you see SR? No? Thanx.

Youb see? You says your opinion, but you didn't even see 2 minutes of this film.

But of course, "we all are fools, and you are only one who is right".

[블라스]

Thanks? :confused:

[GothicPowerMix1]

Youb see? You says your opinion, but you didn't even see 2 minutes of this film.

Techinically with the Comc Con Blog & Teaser & Various other Blogs we have seen Two Minutes :o

[Cinemaman]

yeah, sure.

it's impossible to compare now, but spider-man's box office numbers are mammoth.

i don't think you remember just how lucrative they actually were.

Spidey made high numbers, $400m domesticly, and $820m in worldwide.

But I think SR can also make more than $300m and $700m.

It is possible and probably will be so.

[Naite22]

MIDNIGHT SCREENING, no question about it!!!

[Cinemaman]

Techinically with the Comc Con Blog & Teaser & Various other Blogs we have seen Two Minutes :o

I mean first 2 minutes of film.

[The Riddler]

Did you see SR? No? Thanx.

Youb see? You says your opinion, but you didn't even see 2 minutes of this film.

But of course, "we all are fools, and you are only one who is right".
i've seen pictures, i've seen the teaser.

i've seen enough to formulate an opinion on how the film looks as of now and how it seems it will be.

you don't need to see the movie to have an opinion on it.

will the opinion change? perhaps.

but as of now, the movie really doesn't look promising.

[The Riddler]

Thanks? :confused:
you're welcome.

[The Riddler]

Spidey made high numbers, $400m domesticly, and $820m in worldwide.

But I think SR can also make more than $300m and $700m.

It is possible and probably will be so.
you remind me of the batman guys thinking begins was gonna do 300 million or more.

not even close.

could be the same here.

[Cinemaman]

i've seen pictures, i've seen the teaser.

i've seen enough to formulate an opinion on how the film looks as of now and i how it seems it will be.

you don't need to see the movie to have an opinion on it.

will the opinion change? perhaps.

but as of now, the movie really doesn't look promising.

Nope, you can say your opinion about this film only after you saw it.

People thought BB will not be serious character movie, but when they saw it, they were wrong.

The same here.

[The Riddler]

Nope, you can say your opinion about this film only after you saw it.

People thought BB will not be serious character movie, but when they saw it, they were wrong.

The same here.
no, you're wrong, you facist dictator.

i can state my opinion anytime i like.

also, batman begins was a serious character movie. the action sucked ass, though.

[Cinemaman]

you remind me of the batman guys thinking begins was gonna do 300 million or more.

not even close.

could be the same here.

BB was dark movie, while SR is going to be light.

That is why Spidey made high numbers, it was light comic book blockbuster with American icon.

The same with Superman.

[Cinemaman]

no, you're wrong, you facist dictator.

i can state my opinion anytime i like.

also, batman begins was a serious character movie. the action sucked ass.

You know that I am right, but you don't want to understant this.

People are always wrong.

[The Riddler]

BB was dark movie, while SR is going to be light.

That is why Spidey made high numbers, it was light comic book blockbuster with American icon.

The same with Superman.
well we can't prove anything until it actually comes out so it's a lost cause.

[The Riddler]

You know that I am right, but you don't want to understant this.

People are always wrong.
hahhahaha.

what a nonsensical post.

[Cinemaman]

hahhahaha.

what a nonsensical post.

Really? Are you sure?

I can also go to Batman boards and say that BB2 will suck and BB was dumb movie.

But I will not do it, because I love BB and think that BB2 will be also great sequel.

You are Superman hater and Batman fan in one face.

[The Riddler]

Really? Are you sure?

I can also go to Batman boards and say that BB2 will suck and BB was dumb movie.

But I will not do it, because I love BB and think that BB2 will be also great sequel.

You are Superman hater and Batman fan in one face.
yes, it was a nonsensical post.

also, you can blast batman begins so long as you have a justified opinion.

i'm not really a superman hater, i'm just not really a fan and i think the movie is gonna blow.

[Cinemaman]

yes, it was a nonsensical post.

also, you can blast batman begins so long as you have a justified opinion.

i'm not really a superman hater, i'm just not really a fan and i think the movie is gonna blow.

But why you think so? Can you explain?

[The Riddler]

But why you think so? Can you explain?
basically, two main reasons i think this movie won't do so well at the box office.

poor marketing. much like begins, so far there isn't much hype. i remember a lot of people saying wait until the release gets closer before the hype really starts but it never came. look at a movie like spider-man; the hype is so high that spider-man 3 was one of the most popular web searches on the internet just a week ago; a FULL year before the film is even released.

the suit. i'm sure a lot of people like the suit, but i'm sure there are perhaps more people who think the suit sucks.

[Cinemaman]

basically, two main reasons i think this movie won't do so well at the box office.

poor marketing. much like begins, so far there isn't much hype. i remember a lot of people saying wait until the release gets closer before the hype really starts but it never came. look at a movie like spider-man; the hype is so high that spider-man 3 was one of the most popular web searches on the internet just a week ago; a FULL year before the film is even released.

the suit. i'm sure a lot of people like the suit, but i'm sure there are perhaps more people who think the suit sucks.

1. Full marketing will come in May. Now we have magazines and articles. Soon we will get full trailer, 8-9 TV-spots, interviews, posters and etc.

2. This suit isn't so big problem in the movie.

[The Riddler]

1. Full marketing will come in May. Now we have magazines and articles. Soon we will get full trailer, 8-9 TV-spots, interviews, posters and etc.

2. This suit isn't so big problem in the movie.
well we'll just play the waiting game until it's release.

[Cinemaman]

well we'll just play the waiting game until it's release.

Look, if POTC2 makes less than 1st movie, SR will absolutely make more than $300m, I am sure.

But if not, there will be some hope.

[The Riddler]

Look, if POTC2 makes less than 1st movie, SR will absolutely make more than $300m, I am sure.

But if not, there will be some hope.
it's all just an estimate.

[Cinemaman]

it's all just an estimate.

Like your thoughts that SR will blow.

[SuperDaniel]

Hopefully i`ll be there at midnight!! I really want to. Lets see how things play...

[SuperDaniel]

Hopefully i`ll be there at midnight!! I really want to. Lets see how things play...

[Visionary]

Oh, don't act like you all are not going to buy the bootleg tape, you know you are...you like watching newly released movies in your draws, admit it.:O

[Mister J]

There are still several things about the way this movie is shaping up that irk me. However, there isn't a chance in hell that I won't be munching on some overpriced popcorn in an IMAX theatre, waiting to see it come 12:01 a.m., opening night.

[Mentok]

you'd be sorely mistaken because batman begins was actually a good movie and the only reason it surpassed 200 million was because it was a good film.

No, It made money because it was Batman. The majority of people who went to see it didnt even understand it was a restart.

batman begins doesn't have the type of audience a spider-man or superman type film will have because of a whole bunch of reasons i don't feel like listing.

:rolleyes: Its a comicbook movie. It has the exact core audience as Superman, Spider-Man and X-Men.

also, to the average person and just about EVERYONE i know, the superman suit looks pretty bad.

The average person and just about everybody I know hates the foam rubber Batman suit.

i won't be surprised if superman returns surpasses batman begins' numbers at the box office because frankly, begins did pretty bad.

Because BB was a bad film.

i just think this movie is gonna suck. anything over 300 million at the box office is impossible for this film.

BB sucked, you dont see me trolling the BB boards saying that I think BB2 will suck (Which it probably will)

[skruloos]

BB sucked, you dont see me trolling the BB boards saying that I think BB2 will suck (Which it probably will) :o
Of course not. Because you'd probably be wrong.

[Cinemaman]

BB was really great comic book movie. I gave it 9 out of 10.

I see Mentok thought BB will be something more greater than it and was disappointed.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Eh Sequels tend to suck. But lately Comic Book Movie Sequels havent. I'll give Batman Begins 2 a chance. But god they need to do something about those Camera Angles during the Fight Scenes.

[SuperDaniel]

BB was a great movie but i really missed the art department from the Tim Burton movies. The art department for BB movie was just meh. I never liked the fact that Gotham looks like a normal city. Where are the Gargoyles? The great statues? Thank God for Singer and establishing Metropolis as a great city and looking differently than New York or any other real world city.

[Mentok]

Of course not. Because you'd probably be wrong.

It sucked. Its not the worst film ever, but it still sucked :(

[Mentok]

I see Mentok thought BB will be something more greater than it and was disappointed.

Yeah, thats a part of why I dont like it.

[Oldguy]

It sucked. Its not the worst film ever, but it still sucked :(

That's it? It sucked because it sucked? What's the basis for your opinion, what about it makes you think suckage?

[Mentok]

That's it? It sucked because it sucked? What's the basis for your opinion, what about it makes you think suckage?

I have posted my problems with the film more times than I care to remember.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

where do i stand..


sick of waiting.. But what a ride.

[millennium movies]

I second that Robo!

[Mentok]

where do i stand..


sick of waiting.. But what a ride.

ROFL.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

ROFL.


:D

:supes:

[millennium movies]

Actualy i find myself looking at this video and considering the first pictures that were released of Routh as CK, i find this to be almost the exact same moment. Its so creepy how these two share similarities. They both spoke to reporters in a very similar scene;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OASRx57KJ_w

[Junfan]

The majority of people who went to see it didnt even understand it was a restart.
I find that very hard to believe...


:rolleyes: Its a comicbook movie. It has the exact core audience as Superman, Spider-Man and X-Men.

Movies like Spiderman and Superman draw more of a universal audience than some of the more sci-fi or darker comic book adaptions.


The average person and just about everybody I know hates the foam rubber Batman suit.

For Batman to exist in live action (in a believable capacity) this is a compromise that needs to be made.

[dark_b]

I find that very hard to believe...


Movies like Spiderman and Superman draw more of a universal audience than some of the more sci-fi or darker comic book adaptions.



For Batman to exist in live action (in a believable capacity) this is a compromise that needs to be made.belive it. the time when batman negins was out i heard from a lot of people that it was a restart. i heard in the theater when i watched teh movie a guy who asked loud: didnt joker killed hes parents?

[Mentok]

I find that very hard to believe...

Go find a bunch of reviews for BB (not from superhero based sites) Almost all say BB is a prequel. That played a big part in it. Plus the ending confused alot of people (they thought the refrence to The Joker leads into BATMAN 89).




Movies like Spiderman and Superman draw more of a universal audience than some of the more sci-fi or darker comic book adaptions.

Its a comicbook film, the core audience is the same. Dont even try and say it draws a different crowd because its 'darker'.

For Batman to exist in live action (in a believable capacity) this is a compromise that needs to be made.

B.S... The batsuit can be done dozens of different ways in live action. They decided to stick with a crap black foam rubber suit.

[user123456789]

B.S... The batsuit can be done dozens of different ways in live action. They decided to stick with a crap black foam rubber suit.

:confused::confused:

Do you truly have the qualifications to say that? (We talkin about the BB suit or B89?)

[Mentok]

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/keaton.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/batman%20kilmer.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/clooney.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/batman%20bale.jpg

[dark_b]

lets end this here ok? mentok already explained why he thinks like that. use teh search function to see what he thinks about the movie.

[Mentok]

Yeah, I have no desire to go through it all again anyway. Back on topic :)

[Mentok]

lets end this here ok? mentok already explained why he thinks like that. use teh search function to see what he thinks about the movie.

ROFL... Sounds like I have a mental illness :(

[dark_b]

ROFL... Sounds like I have a mental illness :(i am sure that after you saw the movie you explained you opinion about the movie on the forum. so what is here wrong? :confused:

[Mentok]

i am sure that after you saw the movie you explained you opinion about the movie on the forum. so what is here wrong? :confused:

Nothing wrong Darky old buddy :up:

[Weadazoid]

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/keaton.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/batman%20kilmer.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/clooney.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/batman%20bale.jpg



Funny thing when they are all togeather like that



The first one looks the best


Cause the Yellow is yellow not gold...... and the black is more of a flat black...not shiny.... at least BB got that right.

[Alonsovich]

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/keaton.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/batman%20kilmer.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/clooney.jpg

http://www.filelodge.com/files/room18/469927/batman%20bale.jpg

As much as I agree with this point... it's a small problem compared to the possiblity of Superman having a son in SR. That's a HUGE problem. And mind you... how exactly do you know that people aren't going to be as confused with this "vague history" bull***** as with the restart thing? I've been following this movie since day 1 and still don't know WTF that means... and I don't think anyone does... not even Singer.

[Mentok]

As much as I agree with this point... it's a small problem compared to the possiblity of Superman having a son in SR. That's a HUGE problem. And mind you... how exactly do you know that people aren't going to be as confused with this "vague history" bull***** as with the restart thing? I've been following this movie since day 1 and still don't know WTF that means... and I don't think anyone does... not even Singer.

Hell yeah, people will confused about what exactly this movie is and where it 'fits' into the timeline.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Including many fans who do not have the internet.

:up:

[Alonsovich]

Hell yeah, people will confused about what exactly this movie is and where it 'fits' into the timeline.

I don't know if that was suposed to be sarcasm...

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

we do need a sarcasm smiley..

Perhaps this

:rolleyes:

[user123456789]

I'm confused.

[Mentok]

I use :o if its sarcasm.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

really..well thats a great one to use.

:o

;)

[Alonsovich]

I use :o is its sarcasm.

Then we should have a consensus about what that means... because I use it as a "whatever" attitude...:o

[The Sage]

As much as I agree with this point... it's a small problem compared to the possiblity of Superman having a son in SR. That's a HUGE problem. And mind you... how exactly do you know that people aren't going to be as confused with this "vague history" bull***** as with the restart thing? I've been following this movie since day 1 and still don't know WTF that means... and I don't think anyone does... not even Singer.

Agree with you about the kid, but as for "vague history", I would just walk into the theaters and not think about any type of connections, restarts, etc. Truth is, no one knows how vague it's gonna be. Hopefully the prequel comics will shed light on whatever connections to the past films exist. And if they don't, not gonna worry about it, particularly since it's been said that you can watch SR without seeing any of the other films.

In essence, it'll probably be like walking into seeing Casino Royale.:up:

[TheFalcon]

8-ill be their opening weekend

I'm pretty hyped but until I see some acting by Routh I won't give it a 10.
It depends on the trailer, which I really hope is gonna blow me away.

[GreenKToo]

opening nite,and the next day also,if its good. :)

[explode7]

I voted for plan on seeing it. I wonder if it meant in theater or VHS or Cable.

[DavidTyler]

Im gonna wait till i see the trailer before I decide whether or not to take Showtimes up on his offer to pay for my ticket.

And I'm going to wait until a few posters like you have seen it and what you say about it here on these boards.

[explode7]

Well then you better plan on not seeing it then if you are depending on that because don't matter how good the movie is people will say it is bad and will look for the worst parts or find the worst parts even there may not be any and dwell on that aspect of it to death.

[skruloos]

It sucked. Its not the worst film ever, but it still sucked :(
Nah. I don't buy it.

[SuperDaniel]

Man, Superman Returns is a sequel to Superman the movie and II. Is it that hard to understaND???!!?! Singer said it many times.

[batman44]

I'll be at the Imax opening day/ night.

[skruloos]

Man, Superman Returns is a sequel to Superman the movie and II. Is it that hard to understaND???!!?! Singer said it many times.
And he also said that one not need to have ever seen both those films to catch up and understand this one. So...we don't really know how much SR relies on plot points from the first two movies.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I will be there first showing of the day!

can't wait until an evening showing.

[Superman \S/]

I'll be there first showing. :)

[SuperDaniel]

And he also said that one not need to have ever seen both those films to catch up and understand this one. So...we don't really know how much SR relies on plot points from the first two movies.
Just like you don`t need to watch X-men 1 to understand X-men 2 or Terminator 1 to understand Terminator 2 but if you did, you`d know more things about the history of the characters.

[skruloos]

Just like you don`t need to watch X-men 1 to understand X-men 2 or Terminator 1 to understand Terminator 2 but if you did, you`d know more things about the history of the characters.
Incorrect. It is stated in X2 that Jean started exhibiting her strange behavior after the events in X1, thus they rely on knowledge of a plotpoint from X1. Also, T2 makes specific mention of the T-100 in T1 and other references to John's father, Kyle Reese which is specific to Reese and Connor's coupling in T1. These movies are true sequels. The Star Wars movies are true sequels. Batman Returns is not a true sequel to Batman '89.

[Still A ThorFan]

For all of you who say you'll be there at midnight and see it 500 times, what if you don't like it?

[Metropolis_Man]

If they have a midnight showing around here, I'm going to try my best to be at that one. I plan on seeing it about 4 times maybe, probably with a different group of people each time. Then when it comes out at the $1 theatre, I'll probably watch it there again a few times.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Well we will blame you.

;)

[SuperDaniel]

True. Its been some time that i don`t watch both movies but its just that i know a lot of people who watched those sequels first. And seriously who never watched Superman the movie??

The way i see it it is that it is a direct sequel to these movies. Superman came from the icy krypton, marlon brando was his father, raised in Smallville, Pa Kent died, Ma Stayed with Ben Hubbard, he met, saved and fell in love with Lois and confronted Lex Luthor. In Superman II Lois and Superman had a romantic relationship and Zod Came. Thats all.

In Superman Returns this movie will feel like an origin because it will show Superman first appearence, Clark returning to the Daily Planet, Luthor was in prison and got out, so everything will be explained. The only problem rests with the kid. If the kid is Supermans, wich i believe he is, then its related to the events of Superman II.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

On DVD, unless I win free tickets or somebody wants to take me.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

On DVD, unless I win free tickets or somebody wants to take me.


like a date.

:o

[Metropolis_Man]

True. Its been some time that i don`t watch both movies but its just that i know a lot of people who watched those sequels first. And seriously who never watched Superman the movie??

The way i see it it is that it is a direct sequel to these movies. Superman came from the icy krypton, marlon brando was his father, raised in Smallville, Pa Kent died, Ma Stayed with Ben Hubbard, he met, saved and fell in love with Lois and confronted Lex Luthor. In Superman II Lois and Superman had a romantic relationship and Zod Came. Thats all.

In Superman Returns this movie will feel like an origin because it will show Superman first appearence, Clark returning to the Daily Planet, Luthor was in prison and got out, so everything will be explained. The only problem rests with the kid. If the kid is Supermans, wich i believe he is, then its related to the events of Superman II.

I like what you said. It definately has that connection to the previous films, but when you said it will still feel like an origin of sorts with him returning and luthor being out of jail, I think you explained that well. It definately has that connection with the classic films, but I think its enough of a new story in its own right.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

like a date.

:olol no.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

lol no.


shucks..

i was going to get frisky.

;)

[Metropolis_Man]

shucks..

i was going to get frisky.

;)

Robo.....what have we told you?:mad:

[Man-E-Toys]

midnight showing then most likely see it again on the weekend.

[Junfan]

Go find a bunch of reviews for BB (not from superhero based sites) Almost all say BB is a prequel. That played a big part in it. Plus the ending confused alot of people (they thought the refrence to The Joker leads into BATMAN 89).

Fair enough, I guess I was giving people too much credit considering the movie was called Batman Begins... ;)

Its a comicbook film, the core audience is the same. Dont even try and say it draws a different crowd because its 'darker'.

I'm not talking "core audience" necessarily, i'm talking audience in general. Superman has an almost universal audience, I can't imagine someone not wanting to see Superman, comic fan or not, you can't honestly say the same applies to Batman or X-men (better example). Superman is the hero that transends the "comic book movie" label.

B.S... The batsuit can be done dozens of different ways in live action. They decided to stick with a crap black foam rubber suit.
I'm sure this has been beat to death somewhere else so there is no point to debate it, but I will say I can't imagine a live action movie based in reality where batman would be able to survive without some sort of "armor".

[Agnarr]

I'll be there at midnight IMAX. This will be the one movie that I'll see in the theater more than twice, depending on how good it is. The vague history doesn't really bother me, since they'll have a recap, comic book style, telling us everything we need to know that was pulled from the first two films.

[Mentok]

Then we should have a consensus about what that means... because I use it as a "whatever" attitude...:o

The the smiley of 1000 uses :up:

[Zakk Sabbath]

Talking about anticipation for the movie got me thinking, how many of you have been waiting for this movie your whole lives? (Literally) Who is 18-19 and never got the chance to see Superman in theaters? This is gonna be my first time and I'm freakin out, it's gonna be sweet

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Robo.....what have we told you?:mad:



That its normal to have these funny feelings in your winky.

:o

[millennium movies]

I was watching some of the first blogs and saw for the first time the one entitled "the call". I was quite surprised to find out Singer helped on the King Kong movie. Boy did it seem like an awkward situation...

[dark_b]

I was watching some of the first blogs and saw for the first time the one entitled "the call". I was quite surprised to find out Singer helped on the King Kong movie. Boy did it seem like an awkward situation...this was a joke blog :)

[Showtime]

I thought he really did help with the movie, although the Blog was staged?

[millennium movies]

I doubt he flew from Australia from his shooting shedule to go meet Jackson for a simple joke. Unless of course he already was in New Zealand to begin with, that would make alot more sense.

[dark_b]

I thought he really did help with the movie, although the Blog was staged?i dont know what in the blog was true and was not.
but it looked dumb when peter was sleeping and everyone around him was filming the movie. like he would be sleeping on the set and singer would direct. and lets not forget how quiet they all had to be :). not to mention all the loud sounds that were on the set and he was sleeping. :)

[millennium movies]

Well it looked very awkward at some point for Singer. The moment where he's talking to Naomi and Andy (gollum) comes in then he takes her aside to talk to her. Looked very uncomfortable and different from Singer's style of prank/jokes. But thats me

[Mentok]

I doubt he flew from Australia from his shooting shedule to go meet Jackson for a simple joke. Unless of course he already was in New Zealand to begin with, that would make alot more sense.

Jackson invited Singer to come over for a visit. He didnt really direct a scene (well, he did but its about 2 seconds of film). They did joke that P.J was overworked on both films Blogs.

[Mentok]

I doubt he flew from Australia from his shooting shedule to go meet Jackson for a simple joke. Unless of course he already was in New Zealand to begin with, that would make alot more sense.

It was only half a day of pre production he wasted going over :D

[millennium movies]

Ah the luxury of being a millionaire...

[Hunter Rider]

I voted-6-plan on seeing
Im not all that excited,it looks ok and it will be cool to see Supes back on the bigscreen but so far not much has got me hyped,maybe the trailer will alter that

[nite-owl]

I voted 8 I'll see it on the weekend and plus its the first Superman movie I'll see in the cinema.

[TheSumOfGod]

Hard to believe but wow. its already been a year since :

http://boxofficemojo.com/images/supermanreturns_prstory.jpg

I'm very much looking foward to this movie, but I still think that the suit looks wrong, as if it's made of plastic or something. And the S is too small. :(

[Strange]

I will be seeing it opening night on an I-max screen (just like I did with BB). I will then probably see it a few more times on a regular screen as well.

[Captain Kirk]

I have never wanted to see a movie more than I want to see returns. I feel like this film is our 'Star Wars'. I have over fifteen friends committed the see the film opening weekend. I mean fri-sun! What an event this will be to welcome back, Earth's favorite son,:supes:

[The Game]

I voted-6-plan on seeing
Im not all that excited,it looks ok and it will be cool to see Supes back on the bigscreen but so far not much has got me hyped,maybe the trailer will alter that

Co-sign

While I will see Superman, the only thing that has got me hyped for this summer is the World Cup.

[DavidTyler]

I've gotten used to the smaller emblem. In fact, I don't really mind it anymore. The colour choices don't bother me at all. I've seen so many pics that I have no idea how the darker red is going to play in the film. The material of the costume is fine with me. I don't think I ever did mind THAT.

BUT... I still hate the belt and the way the cape attaches. The neckline is still too tight.

Other than the costume, I'm still not thrilled about revisiting Donner's 'Ice Krypton' and the kid. I'm hoping that they aren't going to resurrect 'nerd' Clark but I suspect they will.

And that's pretty much where I stand now.

[Mentok]

Other than the costume, I'm still not thrilled about revisiting Donner's [c]'Ice Krypton'[/b] and the kid. I'm hoping that they aren't going to resurrect 'nerd' Clark but I suspect they will.

And that's pretty much where I stand now.

Its not ice :mad: :( ;)

[dark_b]

Its not ice :mad: :( ;)but you have to admit that if you look really fast it looks more like ice than chrystals.

when i was a kid i always thought it was ice. because it was in antarctica so i thougt it was all ice.

[MatchesMalone]

I've gotten used to the smaller emblem. In fact, I don't really mind it anymore. The colour choices don't bother me at all. I've seen so many pics that I have no idea how the darker red is going to play in the film. The material of the costume is fine with me. I don't think I ever did mind THAT.

BUT... I still hate the belt and the way the cape attaches. The neckline is still too tight.

Other than the costume, I'm still not thrilled about revisiting Donner's 'Ice Krypton' and the kid. I'm hoping that they aren't going to resurrect 'nerd' Clark but I suspect they will.

And that's pretty much where I stand now.

Post-Crisis sucks! :up:

[StarvingArtist]

I think both Routh and Bosworth look a tad young. I don't really care for the sexually emphasized Supes suit though I can live with it. Ultimately I think it'll be a kick ass version of Superman and I'll be first in line to see it because I love Superman. However, is it my dream Superman movie? Nah.

[Oldguy]

Post-Crisis sucks! :up:

Boooooourrrrrnnnsss.

Post-crisis is dead, you won. Interested in what you won? Me too, c'mon 52......

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

check ou the new pic in the montage!!!!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1186570,00.html

[MatchesMalone]

Boooooourrrrrnnnsss.

Post-crisis is dead, you won. Interested in what you won? Me too, c'mon 52......

Oh, no. Don't thank me. We're all part of the same team.

I didn't win. Fun won. Excitement won. Grandeur won. Humor won. And Marvel lost. Again.

While, of course, OYL starts off with a cliched lost powers premise, it's almost too perfect. To me, All Star is more pre-crisis than anything else, and it is awesome.

[Fatboy Roberts]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

[MatchesMalone]

check ou the new pic in the montage!!!!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1186570,00.html

That is an incredible pic. EDIT: Fatboy got it.

Too bad the Time preview of the movie is full of inaccurate rumors that were debunked ages ago. And Batman Begins is a prequel, right Time? They're still at it.

[Fatboy Roberts]

That is an incredible pic. Somebody needs to rip it.

Already did, player :)

[The Kid]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

holy ****

[dark_b]

holy ****:):up:

[Showtime]

DB will relax for about 3 more days, until he realizes the trailer hasn't hit yet.

[dark_b]

DB will relax for about 3 more days, until he realizes the trailer hasn't hit yet.hahahahahhhahahhahahah hahahhahahah hahahhahahahhah haha :eek::)
now that you reminded me not. hehe.

seriously: showtime if you look back i always wrote that i just want a pic of him flying. like this. i think this will make it easier to wait until the trailer .it will be hard but easier :)

[Nightwing1977]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

Holy crap!! That look awesome! You can see the color isn't that dark. In fact it look very bright, but not too much. :)

[Showtime]

hahahahahhhahahhahahah hahahhahahah hahahhahahahhah haha :eek::)
now that you reminded me not. hehe.

seriously: showtime if you look back i always wrote that i just want a pic of him flying. like this. i think this will make it easier to wait until the trailer .it will be hard but easier :)

Good luck you maniac. :up:

[Mentok]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

I am quite pleased with how the red is looking there also, the cape seems alot lighter and more animated (as opposed to the shots we already have) :up:

These are the kinds of pictures we should have been getting from the very start.

[The Kid]

yeah he looks great there. And he's got a young dean caine look to him.

[DavidTyler]

Post-Crisis sucks! :up:

thanks for sharing.


I don't share your high opinion of pre-crisis.

[ultimatefan]

Well, the mood here is definitely more optimistic than it was back then, and why wouldn´t it be? I always had confidence in Singer, my only doubt was whether he could handle the epic feel of Superman and the teaser convinced me he could. I wasn´t worried about that first pic of the suit cuz I been here a while and I know how these things work, get a better, iconic pic and it starts to grown on people, and it has. I think Routh is a bit boyish, but in the end of the day it´s the performance that makes or breaks it. As for the baby story, I really doubt a filmmaker like Singer will go the easy route and say it´s Clark´s kid - if I´m not wrong, he even already said in an interview that it´s not. I´d say the Superman franchise is in great hands.

[Whack Arnolds]

As much as I agree with this point... it's a small problem compared to the possiblity of Superman having a son in SR. That's a HUGE problem. And mind you... how exactly do you know that people aren't going to be as confused with this "vague history" bull***** as with the restart thing? I've been following this movie since day 1 and still don't know WTF that means... and I don't think anyone does... not even Singer.Agreed. By the end of Batman Begins, people got it was a re-start. As soon as the audience saw that someone not named "Jack" killed Bruce's parents, and was shot dead and never became the Joker...I think it was pretty damn apparent it was a re-start. Regardless of the color of costumes or how similar it may have looked to previous Bat-suits, that was damn evident. The whole situation surrounding Superman Returns is even more botched, messy and confusing than anything anyone could possibly imagine. They needed to do a full re-start with Superman as well for the new era, but Singer was either too afraid to do that, or he simply doesn't know what he is doing. I don't know what "vague history" is, and neither does Singer. Its like a pre-sequel...its so ****ing stupid. Either completely ignore the cheese fest films that came prior to this and start a new, or don't make a quasi-sequel film at all. People in the audience will be dumb founded with what is going on. Where does the continuity take place? Is any sequel after Returns taking place before Superman II, III, and IV? It's retarded how they pigeon holed themselves with this mucked up backstory and continuity.

I actually think that Superman may not even make Batman Begins numbers...and as my boy, The Riddler says, there is no way in hell it will touch Spidey's numbers.

[Whack Arnolds]

Batman Begins didn't make its money on its name. Actually, quite the contrary. It made a major amount of money after the appeal of the name went down, and word of mouth spread about how it was a serious and very good film. Otherwise, it wouldn't have even made what it did without it being a good story.

[Octoberist]

Batman Begins became a critical sucess, espically thru DVD. To the point where it's box office receipt didn't matter.

The issue with SUperman's vague connection to the Donner films is this: I would rather have this then to have a complete restart. Why? I don't want to see an origins movie again. I've seen already, and it would be boring.

However, certain elements in "Return" concern me (Lex Luthor, the kid, made-up sidekick villains), but not enough to ruin my excitement.

[Cinemaman]

Batman Begins became a critical sucess, espically thru DVD. To the point where it's box office receipt didn't matter.

The issue with SUperman's vague connection to the Donner films is this: I would rather have this then to have a complete restart. Why? I don't want to see an origins movie again. I've seen already, and it would be boring.

However, certain elements in "Return" concern me (Lex Luthor, the kid, made-up sidekick villains), but not enough to ruin my excitement.

:up:

[Whack Arnolds]

You could have a re-start that follows the Birthright story. THAT would be more exciting than any Superman movie thus far. And we'd actually get to see him battle Super-villains and not just using his powers to save people from busted airplanes, or rescuing cats from trees....

[Metropolis_Man]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

I am quite pleased with how the red is looking there also, the cape seems alot lighter and more animated (as opposed to the shots we already have) :up:

These are the kinds of pictures we should have been getting from the very start.

Agreed, it seems like the pictures keep getting better.

[Fatboy Roberts]

It made a major amount of money after the appeal of the name went down,

No it didn't. Batman Begins had a relatively short run at major theaters, and just like every blockbuster, made about half of it's total domestic gross in the first two weeks. Word of mouth was good, yes, but there's nothing in the numbers that says the word of mouth lifted it above the fact that it was a "Batman" movie.

[ultimatefan]

No it didn't. Batman Begins had a relatively short run at major theaters, and just like every blockbuster, made about half of it's total domestic gross in the first two weeks. Word of mouth was good, yes, but there's nothing in the numbers that says the word of mouth lifted it above the fact that it was a "Batman" movie.
The opening weekend was deemed disappointing. The movie became a hit because of its post-opening performance, due to positive word-of-mouth. It made four times its opening weekend, quite above the average performance for summer blockbusters.

[Fatboy Roberts]

it was deemed disappointing due to overinflated expectations. the first and second weekends close to half the overall take (75 mil), and the first two full weeks definitely made over half the overall take. pretty safely. :

Jun 17–19 1 $48,745,440 - 3,858 - $12,634 $72,896,986 1
Jun 24–26 1 $27,589,389 -43.4% 3,858 - $7,151 $122,511,813 2
Jul 1–3 2 $15,609,638 -43.4% 3,765 -93 $4,145 $151,070,575 3
Jul 1–4 2 $19,339,432 -29.9% 3,765 -93 $5,136 $154,800,369 3
Jul 8–10 3 $10,012,444 -35.9% 3,344 -421 $2,994 $171,901,777 4
Jul 15–17 5 $6,035,300 -39.7% 2,810 -534 $2,147 $183,140,850 5
Jul 22–24 9 $4,727,469 -21.7% 2,275 -535 $2,078 $191,105,194 6
Jul 29–31 13 $2,448,225 -48.2% 1,601 -674 $1,529 $195,875,532 7
Aug 5–7 13 $1,822,445 -25.6% 1,192 -409 $1,528 $199,088,386 8
Aug 12–14 16 $1,050,497 -42.4% 710 -482 $1,479 $201,149,986 9

Nice little uptick for July 4th weekend, but other than that, nothing too different from your typical blockbuster. Yes, being a good Batman movie helped, but the draw was still that it was a Batman movie. The appeal of the name never went down. The name was always what propelled it. "it's supposed to be a good batman movie."

None of those numbers came about because people were going "Oh, I heard it was a good movie about that one guy who dresses up like a rodent or whatever." They knew it was Batman.

[The Sage]

Agreed. By the end of Batman Begins, people got it was a re-start. As soon as the audience saw that someone not named "Jack" killed Bruce's parents, and was shot dead and never became the Joker...I think it was pretty damn apparent it was a re-start. Regardless of the color of costumes or how similar it may have looked to previous Bat-suits, that was damn evident. The whole situation surrounding Superman Returns is even more botched, messy and confusing than anything anyone could possibly imagine. They needed to do a full re-start with Superman as well for the new era, but Singer was either too afraid to do that, or he simply doesn't know what he is doing. I don't know what "vague history" is, and neither does Singer. Its like a pre-sequel...its so ****ing stupid. Either completely ignore the cheese fest films that came prior to this and start a new, or don't make a quasi-sequel film at all. People in the audience will be dumb founded with what is going on. Where does the continuity take place? Is any sequel after Returns taking place before Superman II, III, and IV? It's retarded how they pigeon holed themselves with this mucked up backstory and continuity.


Here's my theory on the audience and the vague history: No one's gonna give a crap. Considering it's been said it's not required that you see those past films, I think the movie's gonna give the audience whatever backstory they need to follow the movie.

People aren't going to care about what continuity it takes place in. It didn't bother the audience that James Bond was late 30 something in every movie he's been in since the 1960s. They just watched the movie.

If you can't call it a restart, cool. Call it a revamp.

[Whack Arnolds]

The opening weekend was deemed disappointing. The movie became a hit because of its post-opening performance, due to positive word-of-mouth. It made four times its opening weekend, quite above the average performance for summer blockbusters.Exactly. :up:

[musclesforsupes]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

I am quite pleased with how the red is looking there also, the cape seems alot lighter and more animated (as opposed to the shots we already have) :up:

These are the kinds of pictures we should have been getting from the very start.


WOW BEST PIC I HAVE SEEN YET IF THATS IS A TRUE PIC.

[Showtime]

WOW BEST PIC I HAVE SEEN YET IF THATS IS A TRUE PIC.

It's official, it's from Time magazine. I have the magazine right at my desk, just picked it up. Along with the new Entertainment and Sci Fi mags.

[Fatboy Roberts]

Exactly. :up:

Nope.

[musclesforsupes]

It's official, it's from Time magazine. I have the magazine right at my desk, just picked it up. Along with the new Entertainment and Sci Fi mags.


Me like :) Why couldnt the WB release these pics last year, then none of this damm bad PR would have started.

[Showtime]

It might be a shot from the film or even the teaser, I think that is still up for debate.

[dark_b]

is the magazine is already out? someone needs to make a big scan.

thanks guys. we need a bigger version :)

[ultimatefan]

Nope.
Why? It was all over the media coverage of the summer, how Batman Begins was a summer movie that didn´t have the bombastic opening weekend but succeeded thanks to its positive reviews and word-of-mouth. Most summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekends at best, and BB made four.

[Fatboy Roberts]

The numbers are up there. The 2nd weekend is just as important as the first--and most blockbusters make, if they're lucky, 2 times the first two weekends. Same with this one.

I'm not saying the positive word of mouth didn't help--but the positive word of mouth didn't MAKE the movie. Batman did. Your argument is that after the 3rd weekend, people went because they heard it was a good movie, regardless of whether Batman was in it. That's not the case.

[BareKnucklez]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

I am quite pleased with how the red is looking there also, the cape seems alot lighter and more animated (as opposed to the shots we already have) :up:

These are the kinds of pictures we should have been getting from the very start.


Like how the suits colors look there but still not a fan of Brandon's Superman look.. Dude looks like Superboy in that picture big time!
Just not Superman!

He just hasn't won me over as you can tell, and Probably wont but ill still see the flick lol. :D

[ultimatefan]

it was deemed disappointing due to overinflated expectations. the first and second weekends close to half the overall take (75 mil), and the first two full weeks definitely made over half the overall take. pretty safely. :

Jun 17–19 1 $48,745,440 - 3,858 - $12,634 $72,896,986 1
Jun 24–26 1 $27,589,389 -43.4% 3,858 - $7,151 $122,511,813 2
Jul 1–3 2 $15,609,638 -43.4% 3,765 -93 $4,145 $151,070,575 3
Jul 1–4 2 $19,339,432 -29.9% 3,765 -93 $5,136 $154,800,369 3
Jul 8–10 3 $10,012,444 -35.9% 3,344 -421 $2,994 $171,901,777 4
Jul 15–17 5 $6,035,300 -39.7% 2,810 -534 $2,147 $183,140,850 5
Jul 22–24 9 $4,727,469 -21.7% 2,275 -535 $2,078 $191,105,194 6
Jul 29–31 13 $2,448,225 -48.2% 1,601 -674 $1,529 $195,875,532 7
Aug 5–7 13 $1,822,445 -25.6% 1,192 -409 $1,528 $199,088,386 8
Aug 12–14 16 $1,050,497 -42.4% 710 -482 $1,479 $201,149,986 9

Nice little uptick for July 4th weekend, but other than that, nothing too different from your typical blockbuster. Yes, being a good Batman movie helped, but the draw was still that it was a Batman movie. The appeal of the name never went down. The name was always what propelled it. "it's supposed to be a good batman movie."

None of those numbers came about because people were going "Oh, I heard it was a good movie about that one guy who dresses up like a rodent or whatever." They knew it was Batman.
The opening weekend was 48 million, much smaller than every prediction in the industry and it made four times that. Most successful summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekend, three and a half at best. WOTW didn´t make four times its opening weekend, neither did EP III or CATCF or FF or even HP IV.

[Hunter Rider]

It didn´t make 75 millions the first weekend, it was the first five days of release, and it was deemed disappointed by the industry as a whole. The opening weekend was 48 million, much smaller than every prediction in the industry and it made four times that. Most successful summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekend, three and a half at best. WOTW didn´t make four times its opening weekend, neither did EP III or CATCF.
In fairness other movies made much closer to their predictions than BB did on here

[Hunter Rider]

It didn´t make 75 millions the first weekend, it was the first five days of release, and it was deemed disappointed by the industry as a whole. The opening weekend was 48 million, much smaller than every prediction in the industry and it made four times that. Most successful summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekend, three and a half at best. WOTW didn´t make four times its opening weekend, neither did EP III or CATCF.
In fairness other movies made much closer to their predictions than BB did on here

[Hunter Rider]

It didn´t make 75 millions the first weekend, it was the first five days of release, and it was deemed disappointed by the industry as a whole. The opening weekend was 48 million, much smaller than every prediction in the industry and it made four times that. Most successful summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekend, three and a half at best. WOTW didn´t make four times its opening weekend, neither did EP III or CATCF.
In fairness other movies made much closer to their predictions than BB did on here

[Oldguy]

It didn´t make 75 millions the first weekend, it was the first five days of release, and it was deemed disappointed by the industry as a whole. The opening weekend was 48 million, much smaller than every prediction in the industry and it made four times that. Most successful summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekend, three and a half at best. WOTW didn´t make four times its opening weekend, neither did EP III or CATCF.

Oh snap Fatboy, you better pull those tri-quater fiscal earning projections recorded and set upon but not restricted to the 4th quarter net growth estimations, or I fear it's pwnage for you.

[Oldguy]

In fairness other movies made much closer to their predictions than BB did on here

In fairness other movies made much closer to their predictions than BB did on here

In fairness other movies made much closer to their predictions than BB did on here

Ya, exactly. Did my boy hunter studder or sumthin, beyatch?

[The Kid]

I think that's a ban.

[Hunter Rider]

Ya, exactly. Did my boy hunter studder or sumthin, beyatch?

lol,whoops:mad: :O

[ultimatefan]

Oh snap Fatboy, you better pull those tri-quater fiscal earning projections recorded and set upon but not restricted to the 4th quarter net growth estimations, or I fear it's pwnage for you.
Hehe... Both SW EP III, WOTW and CATCF made close to a third of their total BO in the first weekend, HP IV and FF a bit more, and BB did less than a fourth.

[Fatboy Roberts]

The opening weekend was 48 million, much smaller than every prediction in the industry and it made four times that. Most successful summer movies make two and a half, three times their opening weekend, three and a half at best. WOTW didn´t make four times its opening weekend, neither did EP III or CATCF or FF or even HP IV.

I already addressed this prior to your response. I'll repost this:


The numbers are up there. The 2nd weekend is just as important as the first--and most blockbusters make, if they're lucky, 2 times the first two weekends. Same with this one.

I'm not saying the positive word of mouth didn't help--but the positive word of mouth didn't MAKE the movie. Batman did. Your argument is that after the 3rd weekend, people went because they heard it was a good movie, regardless of whether Batman was in it. That's not the case.

Word of mouth didn't "Keep the movie alive." It helped (as I've said about 3 times now) but after the 50 mil opening weekend, the movie followed the typical box-office patterns, save for the 4th of July uptick--which makes sense. Let's not lose sight of the major argument here: That Word of Mouth is what floated this movie. It wasn't. It was Batman. The fact it was a good Batman movie helped, but you can't divorce Batman from those totals.

[Oldguy]

Hehe... Both SW EP III, WOTW and CATCF made close to a third of their total BO in the first weekend, HP IV and FF a bit more, and BB did less than a fourth.

For what it's worth I sort of agree, BB's initial $ came from being a Bat-man movie. But word of mouth, and glowing review's like Ebert's(or is he the dead one?) is what gave it staying power.

But, I have to acknowledge Fatboy's point, it would be very difficult to divorce the appeal of the franchise from the merit of the movie itself as it's driving force.

I think you make a good example of showing how BB compared to other franchises(ya WOTW isn't a franchise per se, but it's a remake. close enough.) BB certainly had some quality to it the others lacked that allowed it to out preform them. I would wager it was the fact that it was a good movie.

[ultimatefan]

I already addressed this prior to your response. I'll repost this:



Word of mouth didn't "Keep the movie alive." It helped (as I've said about 3 times now) but after the 50 mil opening weekend, the movie followed the typical box-office patterns, save for the 4th of July uptick--which makes sense. Let's not lose sight of the major argument here: That Word of Mouth is what floated this movie. It wasn't. It was Batman. The fact it was a good Batman movie helped, but you can't divorce Batman from those totals.
Ofr course the name Batman has its share of relevance in helping the movie´s BO, but with that opening, if it had 50%-plus drops - which is pretty usual with blockbusters - it would have been deemed a flop. Batman & Robin being a Batman movie only more or less saved it for the first weekend, than it sank like a rock. Hulk had a great opening and ended up being a disappointment because it fell hard the next weekends. And yes, it DID perform better, compared to opening weekends, than other blockbusters of that summer.

[Fatboy Roberts]

See, we agree more than we don't :), it's just that Whack's initial argument gave so much credit to word of mouth that it seemed he was saying the movie made what it did JUST BECAUSE of the word of mouth, and not because of the fact it was BATMAN at all.

All I'm trying to refute is that yes, the movie being good helped (of course, and Thank God) but the fact it was a good BATMAN movie had a lot to do with it.

Also--the amount of sheer Star Power also helped, that can't be denied, either.

[ultimatefan]

See, we agree more than we don't :), it's just that Whack's initial argument gave so much credit to word of mouth that it seemed he was saying the movie made what it did JUST BECAUSE of the word of mouth, and not because of the fact it was BATMAN at all.

All I'm trying to refute is that yes, the movie being good helped (of course, and Thank God) but the fact it was a good BATMAN movie had a lot to do with it.

Also--the amount of sheer Star Power also helped, that can't be denied, either.
Fair enough.

[Fatboy Roberts]

WTF? What's with all this civil discussion.

Someone fart or something and then make fun of my mom or whatever. These sorts of conversations aren't really allowed here.

Here, I'll put a bunch of exclamation points at the end of this sentence so the authorities don't turn us in for not conforming !!!!11 111 111111!!!!!ONE

[Hunter Rider]

*Farts*:)

[Naite22]

I'll tell you where I stand... Between YOU and the people of Gotham!;)

[Oldguy]

WTF? What's with all this civil discussion.

Someone fart or something and then make fun of my mom or whatever. These sorts of conversations aren't really allowed here.

Here, I'll put a bunch of exclamation points at the end of this sentence so the authorities don't turn us in for not conforming !!!!11 111 111111!!!!!ONE

I'm making fun of your Mom right now...isn't that right baby?

[Fatboy Roberts]

http://listentome.net/cu1.gif
THAT.....was uncalled for...

[Oldguy]

http://listentome.net/cu1.gif
THAT.....was uncalled for...

Someone fart or something and then make fun of my mom or whatever.

I beg to differ.

[Fatboy Roberts]

You ever watch the Clerks cartoon?

(I was quoting it. It wasn't anywhere NEAR uncalled for ;))

[Oldguy]

^^ ahh. No, I haven't.

[Captain Kirk]

:eek: Hey, Wesyeed love the avatar! Man, guys just a few mores days and our waiting will be over!

[ultimatefan]

WTF? What's with all this civil discussion.

Someone fart or something and then make fun of my mom or whatever. These sorts of conversations aren't really allowed here.

Here, I'll put a bunch of exclamation points at the end of this sentence so the authorities don't turn us in for not conforming !!!!11 111 111111!!!!!ONE
Your mom is hot.;) :D