sandman's origin

[Ock]

what do you think his origin should be?
i think it should be like the one in the comics

[Don Corleone]

what do you think his origin should be?
i think it should be like the one in the comics

would be best

[giggs11uk]

ock u realy want sandman to be created at a nuclear bomb testing site on some beach. That has to be the stupidest origan i have ever heard. sandman would be dead after a nuclear explosion and dont even get me started on security issues.

there is no way riami will ever go for that. he's created in a lab. end of story

[Don Corleone]

ock u realy want sandman to be created at a nuclear bomb testing site on some beach. That has to be the stupidest origan i have ever heard. sandman would be dead after a nuclear explosion and dont even get me started on security issues.

there is no way riami will ever go for that. he's created in a lab. end of story

well, that's it, im convinced, why didnt i think of that a lab. Yeah, they would say, "hey man, what we inventing today, maybe a sand man of some kind" OH COME ON!!!

[Ock]

ock u realy want sandman to be created at a nuclear bomb testing site on some beach. That has to be the stupidest origan i have ever heard. sandman would be dead after a nuclear explosion and dont even get me started on security issues.

there is no way riami will ever go for that. he's created in a lab. end of storydude its just a movie
for instance can someone really turn into a human spider

[Don Corleone]

dude its just a movie
for instance can someone really turn into a human spider


you mean they can't! no, i agree, people should lighten up

[giggs11uk]

no look i just like pissing you off because u make stuff up and think ur all that. i hate people like u. let me guess ur a christian republican. Am I right?

[War Party]

no look i just like pissing you off because u make stuff up and think ur all that. i hate people like u. let me guess ur a christian republican. Am I right?

what's this have to do with anything? I hope your just messing around.

[Don Corleone]

loosing focus now children..we need more ideas,

so far we got, original comic version
and in a lab

[giggs11uk]

i' m not i'm sick of people like ock

[War Party]

i' m not i'm sick of people like ock

alright. just checking.

[Arcturus]

I just had a seizure reading this ****ing thread.

[Murder]

no look i just like pissing you off because u make stuff up and think ur all that. i hate people like u. let me guess ur a christian republican. Am I right? I am:) .

I think the lab exp. gone wrong is better even if it's basically a re-hash ala SM1. Was there ever in reality a Nuke tested on a beach or near an ocean? I think that would really piss some people off if that happened. Cheers!

[Arcturus]

It's probarbly going to be similar to the original origin, but prehaps it'll be updated like the other origins of GG and Ock.

[TheCardPlayer]

Flint Marko is playing with his sick daughter in a child's playground, he's got no money to pay for the medical expenses so he's explaining to her how sad and dramatic her situation is. Then his wife is raped in the middle of the street....and is infected with AIDS. And she's stabbed...and ran over with a radioactive truck. The truck explodes, killing Marko's entire family....and they were all paralyzed and comatose...because they were shot in a robbery.

And the explosion fuses him to the sand. And he's got to steal to feed his adoptive child...whose deaf. Because she was beaten by her stepfather....Sandman's uncle. Who also beat him. And killed his little brother.

[Murder]

Flint Marko is playing with his sick daughter in child's playground, he's got no money to pay for the medical expenses so he's explaining to her how sad and dramatic her situation is. Then his wife is raped in the middle of the street....and is infected with AIDS. And she's stabbed...and ran over with a radioactive truck. The truck explodes, killing Marko's entire family....and they were all paralyzed and comatose...because they were shot in a robbery.

And the explosion fuses him to the sand. And he's got to steal to feed his adoptive child...whose deaf. Because she was beaten by her stepfather....Sandman's uncle. Who also beat him. And killed his little brother. DOES THIS GUY KNOW HOW TO PARTY OR WHAT!?!

[Reikowolf]

Marko is down on his luck.. lost all his money, decides to rob osborn... Harry offers an alternative:

Harry finds a way (tricking his staff or something along those lines) to "water down" the goblin formula to not make the person who takes it go insane. The catalyst is a bacterial strain which would allow the person who bonds with to have the powers the GG did but at the same time not have any of the "draw backs" Marko gets injected with it.. at first he feels fine.. then he begins to feel sick.. he vomits a black ooze and his body begins to melt.. as soon as this happens he freaks out destroying lab equipment.. a fire breaks out.. the black ooze seems to be alive and recoils from the fire. the fire is about to hit marko when he suddenly becomes glass-like and the fire cannot harm him, he realizes he can control his body's molecular structure, he has become sand-like. a computer pans out and a computer reads "Anomoly: Genetic transfer"

*edit*
the bacterial strain has become sentient from Marko's human DNA (the symbiote) plus the fact that it is the GG formula allows it to enhance whoever it bonds with.
and Marko had become genetically unstable due to his broken DNA.. but he still retains the goblin super formula strengths.. in fact.. it may be the only thing keeping his body from falling apart all together.

[War Party]

DOES THIS GUY KNOW HOW TO PARTY OR WHAT!?!

HAHA!

[TheCardPlayer]

I was trying to give him a touching back story.

[Dead Kitty]

Was there ever in reality a Nuke tested on a beach or near an ocean? I think that would really piss some people off if that happened. Cheers!

The hydrogen bomb was tested on Bikini Atoll and most Atomic bombs were/are tested in the pacific. Not there was anybody around but still.

I wouldn't want to see Sandman created but an explosion like that. I think that is lame.

[DroolingforGwen]

is it confirmed that Marko will have a sick daughter... whos playing her if so???

[Duende Verde]

Sandman's origin could be related to Doc Ock's failed experiment at the end of Spider-Man 2. It was droped into the sea and it could wash into a beach, where Flint Marko is hiding from the law.
I really think that his origin should be related to Ock's machine. If washing into shore seems too easy, Flint Marko could have a lowly job as result of being a criminal, like gabage man on one of those trash ferries and it bumps into the machine.

[DroolingforGwen]

Interesting... but too far fetched... I think it just depends on his background... if he is a flat out crook... the nuclear explosion sounds feasible... don't tell me it's just unrealistic... everything in these movies are unrealistic... the only labs we will be seeing are those involved in studying the symbiate.

[The Joker]

is it confirmed that Marko will have a sick daughter... whos playing her if so???

Is it even confirmed he has a daughter at all??

Sandman's origin could be related to Doc Ock's failed experiment at the end of Spider-Man 2. It was droped into the sea and it could wash into a beach, where Flint Marko is hiding from the law.
I really think that his origin should be related to Ock's machine. If washing into shore seems too easy, Flint Marko could have a lowly job as result of being a criminal, like gabage man on one of those trash ferries and it bumps into the machine.

Good god NO!!! :down

The fusion ball is drowned,and secondly,how exactly could a fusion ball confer sand powers onto someone?? It's not radiation.It doesn't alter your genetic structure.

[Duende Verde]

Is it even confirmed he has a daughter at all??



Good god NO!!! :down

The fusion ball is drowned,and secondly,how exactly could a fusion ball confer sand powers onto someone?? It's not radiation.It doesn't alter your genetic structure.
If you remmember it wasn't working quite well on the second movie, since it was drowned, it could have even more malfunctions and weird "once in a lifetime" side effects.

[DroolingforGwen]

I think the daughter adds an entirely different element to the story... u know they won't kill off a little girl... so she will have to be saved at the end... could that mean Sandman is possibly cured at the end??? Will he sacrifice himself??? (Although I don't see how his death would save his daughter from cancer or whatever) But u will develop more sympathy for the character if he does have a daugther... I don't see how they would kill him off if that's the case... maybe Sandman tells SPiderman at his death to save his daughter as a dying wish...

[The Joker]

If you remember it wasn't working quite well on the second movie, since it was drowned, it could have even more malfunctions and weird "once in a lifetime" side effects.

It's a fusion ball.The only side effects of it was that it attracts metal and produces heat.That's why Octavius drowned it.It was the only way to vanquish it.

You can't seriously see that fusion reactor,with the fusion ball still going,washing up on a beach shore somewhere in SM-3 can you?? ;)

I think the daughter adds an entirely different element to the story... u know they won't kill off a little girl... so she will have to be saved at the end... could that mean Sandman is possibly cured at the end??? Will he sacrifice himself??? (Although I don't see how his death would save his daughter from cancer or whatever) But u will develop more sympathy for the character if he does have a daugther... I don't see how they would kill him off if that's the case... maybe Sandman tells SPiderman at his death to save his daughter as a dying wish...

Sympathetic villain ahoy.

And the cure bit you mentioned made me remember that black english actor who was hired to play a scientist who is trying to "cure the baddy of whatever badness he's got".

[Duende Verde]

It's a fusion ball.The only side effects of it was that it attracts metal and produces heat.That's why Octavius drowned it.It was the only way to vanquish it.

You can't seriously see that fusion reactor,with the fusion ball still going,washing up on a beach shore somewhere in SM-3 can you?? ;)
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Of course it's not going to be on, it's only going to have one last quick flash of energy when marko encounters it.:)

[Mr. Socko]

I don't think Sandman should be sympathetic. So no daughter.

He goes to Savannah State Prison and breaks out, a radioactive chemical plant blows up nearby and gets all in the sand. While Marko is escaping he is sucked into the radioactive sand and comes out the Sandman.

He's pure evil, the real bad guy, there's no turning back. He robs banks, steals and kills. His wife tries to turn him around but he kills her :up:

[Dead Kitty]

That sounds reasonable except for the killing of the wife part. I think it would go his wife would be in a death like situation and then Sandman realzies the error of his ways and saves her and gives himself up or kills himself some how...like falling into the ocean or being melted into glass...:)

[Mr. Socko]

I like the speculation deaths like Ocks. Where it's not 100% confirmed that they're dead.

[Dead Kitty]

I don't think Ock will come back:
1. Wouldn't want to use an old villian
2. Why would he come back, he gave himself up to save Peter, why would he come back to fight him again.
3. If he is dead he is happy he is with his wife where ever you go when you die in a comic book adapted movie.

[CrypticOne]

I want all the villians to be created by doing something for Oscorp, since Green Goblin 1, and Doc Ock were both created because it had something to do with Oscorp. That would be sweet.

[Mister Gone]

I want all the villians to be created by doing something for Oscorp, since Green Goblin 1, and Doc Ock were both created because it had something to do with Oscorp. That would be sweet.

Well if it did include OsCorp I'm sure it's a load of (radioactive or otherwise contaminted "sand") sand getting dumped on him, like in the books.

[HughJackFan420]

ock u realy want sandman to be created at a nuclear bomb testing site on some beach. That has to be the stupidest origan i have ever heard. sandman would be dead after a nuclear explosion and dont even get me started on security issues.

there is no way riami will ever go for that. he's created in a lab. end of story

why is that hard to do? or even stupid as you put it??

Sandman can be on the run from a prison break or whatever and he stumbles to the nuclear site he'll have no idea whats going on but when the engineers testing bombs on the site goes wrong theres a nuclear explosion creating Sandman and it was too late to stop the accident.

its possible i mean why the hell not??? i think it would look cool on screen

[Cmill216]

Edit.

[Cmill216]

why is that hard to do? or even stupid as you put it??

Sandman can be on the run from a prison break or whatever and he stumbles to the nuclear site he'll have no idea whats going on but when the engineers testing bombs on the site goes wrong theres a nuclear explosion creating Sandman and it was too late to stop the accident.

its possible i mean why the hell not??? i think it would look cool on screen

Didn't they stop doing nuclear testing above ground, or am I missing a key political development?

[HughJackFan420]

Didn't they stop doing nuclear testing above ground, or am I missing a key political development?

maybe...but your right they should update it a little huh?? well their could be a nuclear eruption from an accident that happens which leads to Sandman being born. of course the site has to be on the beach. and i think it will something like that since they filmed some stuff already on a desert.

[Dead Kitty]

Didn't they stop doing nuclear testing above ground, or am I missing a key political development?

Where else are they supposed to test? Underground?

[The Venomator]

It'll be interesting to say the least to find out what origin storey they will go with

[Cmill216]

Where else are they supposed to test? Underground?

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Nts.html

[Dead Kitty]

Well...I'll shut up. :)

I just always they tested above ground.

[Cmill216]

Well...I'll shut up. :)

I just always they tested above ground.

:D It's okay. We all make mistakes.

I don't know what the origin will be like. Science accident, outside accident. Who knows? Sony does. :up:

[Dead Kitty]

I say he just eats some radioactive sand or something. Or has an accident in a glass factory and then someone spills radioactive waste on him. :)

Well whatever it is it is going to good like when Octavius became Doc Ock and killed all those poor scienctists.

[Murder]

Didn't they stop doing nuclear testing above ground, or am I missing a key political development? That's what I was trying to get to on page 1. I really didn't think we had open nuke test sites anymore. Cheers!

[Cmill216]

That's what I was trying to get to on page 1. I really didn't think we had open nuke test sites anymore. Cheers!

Test Ban Treaty. 1963. :up:

[Ock]

Sandman's origin could be related to Doc Ock's failed experiment at the end of Spider-Man 2. It was droped into the sea and it could wash into a beach, where Flint Marko is hiding from the law.
I really think that his origin should be related to Ock's machine. If washing into shore seems too easy, Flint Marko could have a lowly job as result of being a criminal, like gabage man on one of those trash ferries and it bumps into the machine.
this gave me an idea
flint made a mistake on a drug deal or something(maybe a deal with business man adrian toomes,introducing him in the story)so his boss pushes him off his boss's yaht(or however you spell it please correct me if im wrong)into the ocean and washes up on a beach looking for help he heads toward a nuclear plant which has just been put in nuclear meltdown
the plant expodes granting flint his powers and then he goes after his boss for vengence and spider-man gets in the middle of it

[DV8]

ock u realy want sandman to be created at a nuclear bomb testing site on some beach. That has to be the stupidest origan i have ever heard. sandman would be dead after a nuclear explosion and dont even get me started on security issues.

there is no way riami will ever go for that. he's created in a lab. end of story

I think this info has already been leaked, and I think that it indeed involves him on a beach and nuclear testing . . .

and being bit by a radioactive spider will really give you superhuman spider-like abitilities? I'm such an idiot!!

seriously, dude . . . it's called suspension of disbelief

[Duende Verde]

They can do the origin "Swamp Thing style", he's in a lab trying to steal something, an accident happens, he gets covered with bunch of unstable chemicals and catches fire. Instead of jumping into a swamp (like the guy on Swamp Thing), he "stops, drops and rolls" on the sandy beach outside the lab.:D

[Spider-Grrl1516]

Pretty good idea.

[Alcatraz]

I think he should be a hired criminal by Harry to steal something from a nuclear plant or sumthing simular. maby harry needs it for improving his dads goblin chemical. spiderman should try and stop him but mess up badly and set off some kind of strange melt down. running from the melt down Flint could be on the beach heading for the get away boat when he gets fused with the sand.

or maby he was trying to steal the symbiot from a lab or something and a "melt down" happens. that way u get the Sandman and Symbiot origin in one shot.

as for the symbiot, what if it was something descoverd fosselized (i know i suck at spelling) from either a meteor crash or simply somethign that has been on earth for a while but dormant. then the melt down that creats Sandman could jump start the dormant symbiot and bring it back to life. later in the movie you would find out it is of alien origin.

[spyderman2k4]

I don't think Ock will come back:
1. Wouldn't want to use an old villian
2. Why would he come back, he gave himself up to save Peter, why would he come back to fight him again.
3. If he is dead he is happy he is with his wife where ever you go when you die in a comic book adapted movie.

I think you go into a big, white, hazy room and sit in a car- ala Ben Parker.

[ges681]

I say he just eats some radioactive sand or something. Or has an accident in a glass factory and then someone spills radioactive waste on him. :)

Well whatever it is it is going to good like when Octavius became Doc Ock and killed all those poor scienctists.

lol...yea...eating sand....that's beleivable :up:

[choskins]

He could be a soldier in Iraq and run into chemical weapons.

[CrypticOne]

He could be a soldier in Iraq and run into chemical weapons.

LOL. Very funny. Hey, it could happen!

[Son_of_Kalibak]

A chemical spill on a beachside road causes Flint's getaway vehicle to loose control, and crash, throwing Flint out of the vehicle, and onto the sand at the side. The sand has already mixed with the toxic chemicals, and is absorbed, or mixed with Flint.

There's your sandman origin.

No nuclear blasts.

[HughJackFan420]

Where else are they supposed to test? Underground?

yeah it has to be underground sand

lol jus kidding

[JokerNick]

well, that's it, im convinced, why didnt i think of that a lab. Yeah, they would say, "hey man, what we inventing today, maybe a sand man of some kind" OH COME ON!!!

I just played "ulitmate spiderman", and in it, Beatle steals a vile that say's sandman on it, is sandman in the ultimate unviverse, and if he is, how was he created?

[faceplant]

i eat radioactive sand all the time, but unfortunately i can never turn my body into sand

[Reikowolf]

the idea about the incident at the East River with Doc Ock tying in is cool but what about:

Marko is down on his luck.. lost all his money, decides to rob osborn... Harry offers an alternative:

Harry finds a way (tricking his staff or something along those lines) to "water down" the goblin formula to not make the person who takes it go insane. The catalyst is a bacterial strain which would allow the person who bonds with to have the powers the GG did but at the same time not have any of the "draw backs" Marko gets injected with it.. at first he feels fine.. then he begins to feel sick.. he vomits a black ooze and his body begins to melt.. as soon as this happens he freaks out destroying lab equipment.. a fire breaks out.. the black ooze seems to be alive and recoils from the fire. the fire is about to hit marko when he suddenly becomes glass-like and the fire cannot harm him, he realizes he can control his body's molecular structure, he has become sand-like. a computer pans out and a computer reads "Anomoly: Genetic transfer"

*edit*
the bacterial strain has become sentient from Marko's human DNA (the symbiote) plus the fact that it is the GG formula allows it to enhance whoever it bonds with.
and Marko had become genetically unstable due to his broken DNA.. but he still retains the goblin super formula strengths.. in fact.. it may be the only thing keeping his body from falling apart all together.

[faceplant]

does anyone know the timeframe for the movie, is it set right after sm2 or two years later?

[Cmill216]

does anyone know the timeframe for the movie, is it set right after sm2 or two years later?

Nobody knows. Why would anyone know? :confused:

[faceplant]

Nobody knows. Why would anyone know? :confused:

I don't know, why yell at me?

[faceplant]

I won't ask anymore questions, sorry.

[Cmill216]

I don't know, why yell at me?

That wasn't yelling.

THIS IS YELLING!!!!! ;)

[ges681]

What if the prison system is using criminals to test out chemicals for Oscorp. They think nothing happens and one night he becomes Sandman and escapes out of jail???

[protocida]

Flint Marko was a regular man, married to Susan Marko and father of Penny Marko, until the day he found out his daughter had an unoperable tumor who's treatment was too expensive for him, a blue-collar work, to pay. One day, Marko's friend, Glenn Carradine, invited him to drive the car in an heist to an boxing match he'd do. Flint accept, hoping to use his share to pay for his daughter's treatment. During the heist, Marko had to find a car, and choose Ben Parker's. Ben saw Flint was nervous and tried to talk with him and convince him not to do that. Carradine showed up at the exact moment. Flint stood up and said he'd not go further with that. Glenn stole Flint's weapon, knocked him out and shot Ben Parker, running away with all the money. Flint heard the sirens and just left Ben there, so, he'd no be pushed away from his family, but it didn't worked. The crime was recorded by a bystander's cellphone and Flint was arrested and send to Ryker's Island, where he stayed for years, forbidden to see and talk to his daughter. Flint worked for Ryker's infimary. When one of the immates died from flu and was going to be send to N.Y. to be buried, Flint took his place and ran away upon arriving to the city, going to see his daughter. But he was stopped by his ex-wife, who, as everyone else, believed he killed Ben Parker. Flint gets some clothes and goes away, but he's found by a police car rounding the house. He tries to hide among some trash cans, but he's found and forced to run away. He goes straight to a beach (Are there beaches in N.Y.)

The place is locked, but Flint, who lived there his whole life, knows an secret entrance by an broken gate. He doesn't see the radiaction warning signs.

Flint get's into the beach and ends up falling in an isolated area. In front of him, an small radioactive device. Oscorp is doing experiments on the beach, bombing the sand with small radiaction and modified composing agents to study the ressults. They don't see Flint because, let's face it, who could break into their security. Flint tries to runaway, but he's not fast enough. And he can't scream, or he'll be heard. The device explodes, and Flint is caught by the explosion. His cells are funded with the sand, transforming him in a silicon-based monstruosity: The Sandman!


Yes, I'm a caretaker! :hehe: