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Binker
04-24-2006, 01:19 PM
We all want a sequel, but why not a continuation? A sequel is basically a second story taking place after much time since the story in the first movie. But a continuation picks up where the previous film left off.

The Back to the Future trilogy, The Godfather (1-2 mostly I believe), and the first two Superman movies are all examples of this.

So if BB2 is a continuation, the second story would cut from the lasy shot of Batman gliding at the end of BB. From that: Wayne Manor would be in the rebuilding process so Wayne would live in a penthouse, a reference to the O'Neil/Adams era. And since Batman would have already gotten the Joker card, the detective skills would kick in and be use for the film on the Joker.

Thoughts?

Babs Gordon
04-24-2006, 01:39 PM
It's an interesting thought. I feel like I'd like a combination of both but at the same time the film can't be overly cluttered. With extra plot stuff like rebuilding the batcave and wayne manor and cleaning up the city after Ra's' attack it might be a little much. I think I'd rather have it be a few months later.

At the same time I can see the appeal of him meeting Joker for the first time and such. From the GPD point of view a continuation would be cool. We'll see what they decide to do!

Ronny Shade
04-24-2006, 01:49 PM
I don't think this film is built that way. Halloween? The way that ended, it was great fro H2 to be a continuation. Begins, not so much. I'd rather that BB2 starts after Wayne manor has been rebuilt and stuff. However, that could pose problems: batman and the joker could have already met. (bad idea, we should see their first meeting) or batman could have not even seen the joker after a long time of trying, which is even worse, because he's supposed to be a great detective, and the joker is an attention whore.

I'm not writing it, so we'll see what the Nolans come up with.

Katsuro
04-24-2006, 06:14 PM
I'd prefer a small break in time between films. We could pick up the film after Wayne Manor is in the late stages of being rebuilt, the batcave has been upgraded, and Batman has been relentlessly hunting Joker for some time, but still hasn't managed to get anything significant.

I could see your idea working for 2 and 3 though. Harvey could be scarred at the end of the second, and the third could pick up right after.

javi1024
04-24-2006, 11:42 PM
It's an interesting thought. I feel like I'd like a combination of both but at the same time the film can't be overly cluttered. With extra plot stuff like rebuilding the batcave and wayne manor and cleaning up the city after Ra's' attack it might be a little much. I think I'd rather have it be a few months later.

At the same time I can see the appeal of him meeting Joker for the first time and such. From the GPD point of view a continuation would be cool. We'll see what they decide to do!
it is an interesting idea, but like Babs said it would clutter an already seemingly complicated plot for the sequel.

i didnt know about the penthouse though. i guess thats where "The Batman" got the idea of putting bruce in a penthouse the first couple episodes (which i hated....among many other things). but im sure that would throw off alot non-readers and personally i want to see the new cave.

Binker
04-25-2006, 01:14 AM
No, the "penthouse" in TB is actually Wayne Manor. Not a penthouse.

xceliq
04-25-2006, 01:24 AM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?

raybia
04-25-2006, 09:41 AM
I'd prefer a small break in time between films. We could pick up the film after Wayne Manor is in the late stages of being rebuilt, the batcave has been upgraded, and Batman has been relentlessly hunting Joker for some time, but still hasn't managed to get anything significant.

I could see your idea working for 2 and 3 though. Harvey could be scarred at the end of the second, and the third could pick up right after.


:up:

lujho
04-25-2006, 11:37 AM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?

Christ, Begins is not a prequel to Batman 89. It's starting the whole thing over, because they *needed* to start over.

How could it possibly be in continuity anyway? Begins was set in 2005, Batman was obviously set 15 years before that, and then to continue again after B&R adds even another layer of stupidity.

They're ignoring the previous films, like they should.

raybia
04-25-2006, 11:42 AM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?


Welcome to the Hype!:) :up:

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 11:55 AM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?
Is there a puke smiley?

ragdus
04-25-2006, 12:14 PM
http://www.rageous.us/public/bigpuke.gif

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 01:45 PM
Thank you. Consider that my response.

...and GrammarBatman's

bdsproductions
04-25-2006, 04:14 PM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?

http://www.rageous.us/public/bigpuke.gif

bdsproductions
04-25-2006, 04:15 PM
PS Jacks Joker suuuuuuuuuucked not scaryat all all wrong for it Joker is oooo much diffrent and darker then that and not short and fat

bdsproductions
04-25-2006, 04:17 PM
oh,and another thing:

:doom: BDS says:this ain't a prequel.

mcflytrap
04-25-2006, 05:55 PM
BB2 will be more of a sequel meaning that the story arc came full circle in the first one...but you can bet your ass BB3 will be more of a continuation from BB2 with the Dent storyline.

SpyderDan
04-25-2006, 06:17 PM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?

You can't be freakin' serious.

titan101
04-25-2006, 06:48 PM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?in the words of carlos mencia:



"DEEDEEDEE!!!!!!!!!!"

Two-Face
04-25-2006, 06:52 PM
I think this is quiet retarded. They are taking Batman to hell. This would make it as if the legendary Jack "Joker" never existed. Why cant they just make things simple and have a Joker RETURN and pick the movie up where Batman & Robin left off?



WOW! You can't be serious. :rolleyes:

bdsproductions
04-25-2006, 07:04 PM
:doom:internet pshychiatrist Guy Jonhson says:some people are just morons.

L0ngsh0t
04-25-2006, 07:48 PM
We all want a sequel, but why not a continuation? A sequel is basically a second story taking place after much time since the story in the first movie. But a continuation picks up where the previous film left off.

The Back to the Future trilogy, The Godfather (1-2 mostly I believe), and the first two Superman movies are all examples of this.

So if BB2 is a continuation, the second story would cut from the lasy shot of Batman gliding at the end of BB. From that: Wayne Manor would be in the rebuilding process so Wayne would live in a penthouse, a reference to the O'Neil/Adams era. And since Batman would have already gotten the Joker card, the detective skills would kick in and be use for the film on the Joker.

Thoughts?


sorry dude, what you are describing is a seqaul, Halloween 2 is the exact same thing...good idea, but it is just flat out a sequal

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 07:54 PM
sorry dude, what you are describing is a seqaul, Halloween 2 is the exact same thing...good idea, but it is just flat out a sequal
GrammarBatman says, "there's no A in sequel!"
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/images2/batman61905.jpg

L0ngsh0t
04-25-2006, 09:22 PM
sorry...

TheDarkKnight_NL
04-26-2006, 06:23 PM
maybe they could start some time later with wayne manor being completely rebuild and just have some sort of a flashback of how Batman met Jack Napier (or Red Hood?) in a chemical factory or something like that?

Mr. Socko
04-26-2006, 06:27 PM
It's still the same thing...

Back To The Future Part 2 is considered a sequel.

Two-Face
04-26-2006, 06:27 PM
Batman should NOT know who Joker is, forget "Jack Napier" in Nolan's Batman

El Payaso
04-26-2006, 06:43 PM
Whoa, I'll do my best sir.

Two-Face
04-26-2006, 07:35 PM
Good, dismissed. :D

L0ngsh0t
04-26-2006, 09:15 PM
Batman should NOT know who Joker is, forget "Jack Napier" in Nolan's Batman


yeah well you have burton to thank for that, i wouldn't mind a red hood storyline, but that is all for history

TheDarkKnight_NL
04-27-2006, 06:10 AM
i would like a Red Hood storyline

COMPO
04-27-2006, 12:52 PM
I agree with the continuation just to begin it. But, they should kill racheal at the beginning, making Batman become obsessed in fighting crime to over come his grief and there should be a montage of a few months passing.

COMPO
05-25-2006, 03:55 PM
I think that under the penhouse should be where the trains for the monorails used to be fixed, like in Year One. And have the tracks go all the way to teh Batcave because his great granfather used it during the civil war to free slaves to the north.

shaggyaggie457
05-25-2006, 04:41 PM
I think it might be cool if Joker has been comitting crime and stuff between the movies, but Batman is always just one step behind him until the movie starts, and early on in the movie they meet for the first time.

NinjaTurtleFan
05-25-2006, 08:48 PM
I think a sequel is more necessary, but technically aren't sequels continuations anyways? Or are we referring to the continuation as in "5 days later dah dah dah happens..." ?


Here's how I think "BB2" should start out...

A year has passed in Gotham City and Batman has still not caught the man responsible for "The Joker" calling card. He however has gotten leads and tips by thugs and ever so closely is almost near to catching the infamous criminal.

Meanwhile... the mobs of Gotham are trying to restore order after Falcone's empire collapsed. Rupert Thorne and the Maronis are still fighting over ownership like two lions over a dead zebra carcass.

Lt. Jim Gordon is now responsible for taking on a new partner named Harvey Bullock.

Harvey Dent has now taken over at the D.A.'s office.

A desperate man named "Jack" who is a former stand-up comedian is dangling from a thread. He's got a pregnant wife, he's about to be evicted from his apartment, he's got no money, his life is crummy, until he gets his big break as "The Red Hood." But after an accident at a chemical plant he becomes the face he always sees on his card deck...

Then, you could have a flashback cameo by Thomas Wayne, Scarecrow could cameo if you want, The Penguin comes in for a brief cameo, and then give Bruce a new love-interest and have Lucius come up with some new toys for him and you got yourself a hit. :unishr: