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Fran
04-24-2006, 09:45 PM
All three of those candidates have great and bad characteristics that would make them the Joker.

Depp - GOOD - Amazing actor, would just absorb the role, sink into it.
BAD - Too famous of a name, probably would outshadow Christan, sorry to say.
I think Depp is the best choice is WB wants some big $$$.

Weaving - GOOD - Not as well known as Depp, and is great actor, and can jump into the role. (See: V For Vendetta, Matrix, LOTR)
BAD - He was in a comic movie already (V)

Bettany - GOOD - The least well known out of the three. Great actor, and would be a good Joker.
BAD - He just doesn't look lanky enough to me. In the pics I've seen on the boards, he looks kinda big for the Joker.

I think these 3 should really be considered by Nolan and WB. If Depp is a candidate, and he wants it, GIVE IT TO HIM.

Plus, "Batman II" would be a great title to the movie.

warren_sparta27
04-24-2006, 09:54 PM
Depp is also my first choice, but i know that he isn't going to be the Joker.

so my vote goes to Hulme, who is an unknown, and looks more like the comic book joker than any of the 3 actors mentioned.

StorminNorman
04-24-2006, 10:02 PM
Bettany - GOOD - The least well known out of the three. Great actor, and would be a good Joker.
BAD - He just doesn't look lanky enough to me. In the pics I've seen on the boards, he looks kinda big for the Joker.

I think these 3 should really be considered by Nolan and WB. If Depp is a candidate, and he wants it, GIVE IT TO HIM.

Plus, "Batman II" would be a great title to the movie.

Not Lanky enough?
http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG (http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG)

El Payaso
04-24-2006, 10:05 PM
Weaving.

L0ngsh0t
04-24-2006, 11:10 PM
they are all good actors, and i would be thrilled with any of them

but lets be serious for a second...

to big of a name means ****, when that name is Johnney Depp...if Johnney Depp is infact interested they are fools if they decided to go in another direction...Depp is arguabley the best actor in the past 10 years, if not hands down the best, just like if they could somehow get DeNiro, or Pacino in the movie..who cares if they are two big of a name, they are huge names for a reason, because they are fantastic

a big name actor would bug me if they where going to go with like Heath Ledger or something where no way do i wanna see that...But Johnny Depp is someone you absoloutley need associated with your movie

kytrigger
04-24-2006, 11:44 PM
they are all good actors, and i would be thrilled with any of them

but lets be serious for a second...

to big of a name means ****, when that name is Johnney Depp...if Johnney Depp is infact interested they are fools if they decided to go in another direction...Depp is arguabley the best actor in the past 10 years, if not hands down the best, just like if they could somehow get DeNiro, or Pacino in the movie..who cares if they are two big of a name, they are huge names for a reason, because they are fantastic

a big name actor would bug me if they where going to go with like Heath Ledger or something where no way do i wanna see that...But Johnny Depp is someone you absoloutley need associated with your movie

I agree with the Depp comment. Yes he is a big name, but he made his name on his acting laurels, not just on a pretty face.


Also, I'm pretty shocked that this thread hasn't been hounded by Hulme fans for the creator not adding him into the mix...

Katsuro
04-24-2006, 11:59 PM
Depp doesn't really look like the Joker at all, if you ask me. I know looks aren't the most important thing, but I want this Joker to at least be tall and lanky. His face is also too round. I have yet to see a single good Johnny Depp manip, compared to dozens of great Bettany manips and one or two good Hulme manips.

I think if they go with Depp, we'll basically be getting another Nicholson: someone who doesn't really fit the Joker, but is just being chosen because he's a well known actor at the time.

CConn
04-25-2006, 12:05 AM
Depp doesn't really look like the Joker at all, if you ask me. I know looks aren't the most important thing, but I want this Joker to at least be tall and lanky. His face is also too round. I have yet to see a single good Johnny Depp manip, compared to dozens of great Bettany manips and one or two good Hulme manips.

I think if they go with Depp, we'll basically be getting another Nicholson: someone who doesn't really fit the Joker, but is just being chosen because he's a well known actor at the time.Depp is however, IMO at least, much more of a chameleon than Nicholson ever was.

StorminNorman
04-25-2006, 12:24 AM
I think Bettany is every good an actor as anyone in that list - yes, I am saying Bettany is as good as Johnny Depp.

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 12:26 AM
Wait, so Bettany is not lanky and Weaving and Depp are?

StorminNorman
04-25-2006, 12:30 AM
Dont question his logic Ronny :(

raybia
04-25-2006, 09:43 AM
All three of those candidates have great and bad characteristics that would make them the Joker.

Depp - GOOD - Amazing actor, would just absorb the role, sink into it.
BAD - Too famous of a name, probably would outshadow Christan, sorry to say.
I think Depp is the best choice is WB wants some big $$$.

Weaving - GOOD - Not as well known as Depp, and is great actor, and can jump into the role. (See: V For Vendetta, Matrix, LOTR)
BAD - He was in a comic movie already (V)

Bettany - GOOD - The least well known out of the three. Great actor, and would be a good Joker.
BAD - He just doesn't look lanky enough to me. In the pics I've seen on the boards, he looks kinda big for the Joker.

I think these 3 should really be considered by Nolan and WB. If Depp is a candidate, and he wants it, GIVE IT TO HIM.

Plus, "Batman II" would be a great title to the movie.


I say make movie history by casting all three as the Joker. They can each play the character in certain parts of the movie.

It would be kind of like the bullpen of movies.

kytrigger
04-25-2006, 11:30 AM
I say make movie history by casting all three as the Joker. They can each play the character in certain parts of the movie.

It would be kind of like the bullpen of movies.

You know, it's so crazy it just might work. I mean there was more than one Lassie at a time....

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 11:52 AM
That's the worst idea I've ever heard

raybia
04-25-2006, 12:27 PM
That's the worst idea I've ever heard


I was joking.

DV8
04-25-2006, 12:49 PM
But you forgot the perfect choice for the role . . . Lachy Hulme!!!!

Lone Wolf
04-25-2006, 01:22 PM
I honestly don't think Depp is in the mix for the role anymore...

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 01:32 PM
I was joking.
Yeah, I know you were.

If we had been actually speaking my occasion specific sarcasm would have been evident, and --I like to think-- funny.

super scar
04-25-2006, 01:47 PM
A few guys I would've at least liked to see screen tested for The Joker.
http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/e/ee0979bb8a.jpg
DJ Qualls apparently played quite a good criminal in Law and Order.
http://www.castlerock.it/dbimg/medium/gallery885.jpg
Michael Wincott- might be a bit old and short but his features remind me of TAS Joker and Conrad Veidt (a bit).
http://malestars.codserver.com/cnt/jim_carrey/photos/10.jpg
Uh Oh...

bdsproductions
04-25-2006, 04:54 PM
Not Lanky enough?
http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG (http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG)
bettany f uck yeah!

titan101
04-25-2006, 05:32 PM
http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG (http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG)someone DEFINATELY needs to make a manip out of that....

mcflytrap
04-25-2006, 05:49 PM
Not Lanky enough?
http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG (http://pkimage.com/TheReckoningWEB/slides/Paul%20Bettany_1284.JPG)

It is true that Bettany bulked up a bit for his more recent films...but he could easily pull a Bale and drop that weight. His natural body type is tall and lanky so...

BETTANY, DAMNIT!

Palpadious
04-25-2006, 05:49 PM
Weaving is the best of the three.

Sandman138
04-25-2006, 05:49 PM
In terms of somebody being too big of a name, the same argument was made against Caine when we all wanted him for Alfred: "He's too well known, he'll overshadow Bale and that would be bad". It's a stupid argument. Good actors are good actors and you don't avoid casting a good actor because they would "overshadow" another good actor. You want the ideal, somebody who will give a good performance for their character rather than having them be there to make another performance look good.

mcflytrap
04-25-2006, 05:54 PM
In terms of somebody being too big of a name, the same argument was made against Caine when we all wanted him for Alfred: "He's too well known, he'll overshadow Bale and that would be bad". It's a stupid argument. Good actors are good actors and you don't avoid casting a good actor because they would "overshadow" another good actor. You want the ideal, somebody who will give a good performance for their character rather than having them be there to make another performance look good.

Depp is just a tad more of a box office draw right now than Caine. Box office sure isn't a bad thing, but Depp is leagues beyond Caine in popularity right now.

Iron Man™
04-25-2006, 06:01 PM
i can't believe they havent cast paul bettany yet, the guy was simply born for this role of joker. i'm so making a petition BETTANY FOR THE NEW JOKER!

He'd fit in nicely with nolan's franchise

kytrigger
04-25-2006, 06:13 PM
i can't believe they havent cast paul bettany yet, the guy was simply born for this role of joker. i'm so making a petition BETTANY FOR THE NEW JOKER!

He'd fit in nicely with nolan's franchise

well it's not like it's a slap to Bettany's face or anything. They haven't cast anyone yet (that wasn't already in the first film.)

Two-Face
04-25-2006, 06:15 PM
Nolan can't cast anyone yet cos he's shooting film called The Prestige.

Iron Man™
04-25-2006, 06:15 PM
well it's not like it's a slap to Bettany's face or anything. They haven't cast anyone yet (that wasn't already in the first film.)

Just let me dream kytrigger, just let me dream... :(

Iron Man™
04-25-2006, 06:16 PM
Nolan can't cast anyone yet cos he's shooting film called The Prestige.

i know. :)

L0ngsh0t
04-25-2006, 06:53 PM
Depp doesn't really look like the Joker at all, if you ask me. I know looks aren't the most important thing, but I want this Joker to at least be tall and lanky. His face is also too round. I have yet to see a single good Johnny Depp manip, compared to dozens of great Bettany manips and one or two good Hulme manips.

I think if they go with Depp, we'll basically be getting another Nicholson: someone who doesn't really fit the Joker, but is just being chosen because he's a well known actor at the time.


yeah you're wrong...Depp can just do things other actors can't which is why he is considered the best actor around these days...he would completley become the joker, he wouldn't act as the joker, HE WOULD BECOME the joker, if Depp gets the job he would spend the next year of production reading the joker, absorbing the joker, acting like him in every day life, he would in essence be the joker...that is how he does businees, he didn't brush his teeth or wash his hair during Pirates produciton so he could think like a dirty smelly pirate would....

i will say this again, if Depp has any interest in this role he is the choice, he is the alpha and omega of acting these days and should be the first person contacted for any role, and then go for your no names

for those who say that Bettany looks more like the joker then Depp, you are just crazy, because while at their current status it "MAY" be true, Johnny Depp dosen't exactly look like edward scissorhands, or Jack sparrow, or Raul Duke (from fear and loathing)

i'm not saying you will be regretting bettany, i just think you are missing out on sure fire fantastic joker if you don't take depp


and there was a bafoonish post where someone said Bettany is every bit as good as Depp, you are a fool, and don't deserve to post comments on actors with a comment like that...Bettany could be good, but Johnney Depp? no....Finding Neverland? or No. 1 Gangster? haha i laugh at your foolishness

The-Night
04-25-2006, 07:08 PM
Also, I'm pretty shocked that this thread hasn't been hounded by Hulme fans for the creator not adding him into the mix...

there is no need to argue (AGAIN) why Hulme is superior to any of those you've mention for the Joker (except maybe bettany, he would rock as the Joker)

RedIsNotBlue
04-25-2006, 07:20 PM
I gotta say everytime I see this picture it screams Weaving.
http://www.1freewallpaper.com/Comics-pictures/harley_joker-pictures.jpg

But I just don't want him for the Joker for some reason.

The-Night
04-25-2006, 07:34 PM
I gotta say everytime I see this picture it screams Weaving.
http://www.1freewallpaper.com/Comics-pictures/harley_joker-pictures.jpg

But I just don't want him for the Joker for some reason.

I feel exactly the same way!!!!!

kytrigger
04-25-2006, 07:34 PM
Just let me dream kytrigger, just let me dream... :(

ahhh...well then, dream away

SpyderDan
04-25-2006, 07:43 PM
I wouldn't mind Bettany, maybe Depp. But I don't see the appeal of Weaving.

Lone Wolf
04-25-2006, 07:44 PM
I gotta say everytime I see this picture it screams Weaving.
http://www.1freewallpaper.com/Comics-pictures/harley_joker-pictures.jpg

But I just don't want him for the Joker for some reason.

It's a coincedence that you posted that picture, because when I check BOF this morning they had just posted up the Weaving rumor that came yesterday. With the rumor, they had this below it.

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/icons/hugo_weaving1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/icons/rossjoker1.jpg
Hugo Weaving a Joker candidate?

RedIsNotBlue
04-25-2006, 07:47 PM
Yeah but I don't really want him playing the Joker. I guess I want someone more around Bale's age.

The-Night
04-25-2006, 07:48 PM
Yeah but I don't really want him playing the Joker. I guess I want someone more around Bale's age.

I think that's what Nolan has in mind as well. I mean didn't Batman and Joker start at around the same time?

HughJackFan420
04-25-2006, 08:24 PM
All three of those candidates have great and bad characteristics that would make them the Joker.

Depp - GOOD - Amazing actor, would just absorb the role, sink into it.
BAD - Too famous of a name, probably would outshadow Christan, sorry to say.
I think Depp is the best choice is WB wants some big $$$.

Weaving - GOOD - Not as well known as Depp, and is great actor, and can jump into the role. (See: V For Vendetta, Matrix, LOTR)
BAD - He was in a comic movie already (V)

Bettany - GOOD - The least well known out of the three. Great actor, and would be a good Joker.
BAD - He just doesn't look lanky enough to me. In the pics I've seen on the boards, he looks kinda big for the Joker.

I think these 3 should really be considered by Nolan and WB. If Depp is a candidate, and he wants it, GIVE IT TO HIM.

Plus, "Batman II" would be a great title to the movie.

for Weaver thats the only bad part??? he was already in a comic book movie?? so what...
so was Mardsen the guy who plays Cyclops is also in Superman Returns

all i can say is so far Hugo Weaver is the best candidate...he has the look and grin and he can easily slip into that character...just hope his Joker laugh is as good as Nicholson's

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:27 PM
IT'S WEAVING DAMMIT!

The-Night
04-25-2006, 08:31 PM
IT'S WEAVING DAMMIT!


Nolan, cast Hulme or Bettany already so all of this can end!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:33 PM
All of what, misspelling actors' names? It won't.

The-Night
04-25-2006, 08:40 PM
All of what, misspelling actors' names? It won't.

Hulme or Bettany..................why in the hell consider anyone else????????

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:41 PM
are you even listening to me?

The-Night
04-25-2006, 08:42 PM
are you even listening to me?

Yes sir, actually reading. I know what you mean! Don't worry

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:43 PM
okay good.

The-Night
04-25-2006, 08:47 PM
okay good.

But with Hulme or Bettany, why bother right?

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:48 PM
Why bother listening to me?

The-Night
04-25-2006, 08:51 PM
Why bother listening to me?

dude i get it!!!!!! I'm just trying to past time in workt that's all!!!!!

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:54 PM
okay cool.





I think

what kind of nation do you live in where you're at work at this time of day. It's past 5 in America and way later in Europe, no?

The-Night
04-25-2006, 08:57 PM
okay cool.





I think

what kind of nation do you live in where you're at work at this time of day. It's past 5 in America and way later in Europe, no?

I'm from the U.S of A my amigo, it's just that I go to College during the day and I work the front desk at a Senior YMCA with internet access hence my sig!!!!!

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 08:58 PM
ahh. I see. Usually computer jobs are 9-5.

The-Night
04-25-2006, 09:01 PM
ahh. I see. Usually computer jobs are 9-5.

it's not a career for me, it's just part time while I get this college thing out of the way and move on. I LOVE MY JOB!!!!!!!!!

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 09:04 PM
I never assumed it was your career. I work at an office doing image manipulation during the day between classes and thats not my career, but its still 9-5. Your job sounds awesome.

The-Night
04-25-2006, 09:07 PM
Your job sounds awesome.

I'm one lucky basterd that's for sure and being able to listen to my ipod my whole shift it quite the treat, the only downfall is old people nagging all the time, but it goes away after they die so that good!!!!!:up:

Ronny Shade
04-25-2006, 09:09 PM
lol