What kind of flying shots would you like to see in Returns?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Personally, I've always wanted to see Superman running, taking off, and flying high into space, HOWEVER, all in one single take. It would be amazing and now that the technology exists, it could be done I think. Maybe him flying from the bottom of the ocean to far out into outer space all in one take would be amazing!

I'd also like to see some homages of some of my favorite flying sequences in STM. I don't think we'll see many, but a few will be nice.

What about you guys?

*I didn't see another post like this (and I searched) so I apologize if there is one.

[Mentok]

Good ones ;)

[dark_b]

Personally, I've always wanted to see Superman running, taking off, and flying high into space, HOWEVER, all in one single take. It would be amazing and now that the technology exists, it could be done I think. Maybe him flying from the bottom of the ocean to far out into outer space all in one take would be amazing!

I'd also like to see some homages of some of my favorite flying sequences in STM. I don't think we'll see many, but a few will be nice.

What about you guys?

*I didn't see another post like this (and I searched) so I apologize if there is one.they already enough homages in this movie.

singer make something new. something that is yours. :mad:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

they already enough homages in this movie.

singer make something new. something that is yours. :mad:

Dude, I'm talking like a few seqeunces, like a total of 15 seconds or something. Not many, just showing how much better they can make a particular sequence.

I'd love to see a sequence I recognize from STM, but done better with better SFX.

I'm with you for the most part. I want this movie to be completely new and original, BUT there has to be material in the film to show that it's part of the Donner continuity, and that will have to be familiar to a lot of us.

[Shamik]

Catching things in mid-air, like the Globe shot will be nice. I'm hoping there will be some explosions or something that shoot debris everywhere and we'll see shots of him dodging it while he's flying or knocking it out of his way. Then, of course, I want to see him get thrown around, too. Personally, I thought one of the better shots in Spiderman 2 was where Doc Ock throws him from one building to the next. (This would be where Doc has Aunt May) Of course, since there are no known supervillians, Superman would have to be moved by unexpected explosions. I'm sure there will be a missle or two in this flick.

[Zakk Sabbath]

Catching things in mid-air, like the Globe shot will be nice. I'm hoping there will be some explosions or something that shoot debris everywhere and we'll see shots of him dodging it while he's flying or knocking it out of his way. Then, of course, I want to see him get thrown around, too. Personally, I thought one of the better shots in Spiderman 2 was where Doc Ock throws him from one building to the next. (This would be where Doc has Aunt May) Of course, since there are no known supervillians, Superman would have to be moved by unexpected explosions. I'm sure there will be a missle or two in this flick.

We'll probably see something similar to that in the sequel. I mean, look at the trailer for the SR video game, where he's fighting that giant ****ing robot thing. Quite similar. I'm excited for it.

[Showtime]

Maybe him flying from the bottom of the ocean to far out into outer space all in one take would be amazing!


I am pretty sure we are going to a scene very eerily similar to what you're hoping for.

http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_oceandepths.jpg

[true316]

Personally, I've always wanted to see Superman running, taking off, and flying high into space, HOWEVER, all in one single take. It would be amazing and now that the technology exists, it could be done I think. Maybe him flying from the bottom of the ocean to far out into outer space all in one take would be amazing!



I would LOVE to see that! :up:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I am pretty sure we are going to a scene very eerily similar to what you're hoping for.

http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_oceandepths.jpg

Wow, can you imagine that, as he breaks out of the ocean and the water trail follows him for miles up in the sky as the SUPERMAN THEME blares!! He's flying so fast, he's dry in no time!!

[MatchesMalone]

One of the very few things I liked about the pilot episode of Lois & Clark was how they showed Clark casually using his powers, like they were second nature. Things like him floating up to fix the lightbulb, walking around on the ceiling, playing with a crumpled piece of paper with his super-breath, and so on.

I would love for these kinds little touches to be in the movie. They are not big gigantic set pieces, or show-stopping "look at me!" scenes. But they add to the depth of this character, to show subtle mannerisms and little touches that incorporate his powers in very believable ways.

[MatchesMalone]

they already enough homages in this movie.

singer make something new. something that is yours. :mad:

http://www.lucasalexander.dk/images/Arnold-Stop-Whining-sizdow.jpg

[afan]

Above all I want to see Superman enjoy his flight ability. Perform a barrell roll or loop just for the exhiliration it should bring. I know that's what I'ld be doing.

[MatchesMalone]

Above all I want to see Superman enjoy his flight ability. Perform a barrell roll or loop just for the exhiliration it should bring. I know that's what I'ld be doing.

I'd like to see that too. As long as he's not flying feet-first with ducks, I'm cool.

[afan]

I'd like to see that too. As long as he's not flying feet-first with ducks, I'm cool.


That would be quacked, eider way his powers shoudn't bring him down.....(proceed with the moaning)

[Showtime]

Wow, can you imagine that, as he breaks out of the ocean and the water trail follows him for miles up in the sky as the SUPERMAN THEME blares!! He's flying so fast, he's dry in no time!!

I wrote a script snippit on bluetights relating to that possible scene and got in a fight with somebody who told me I was revealing a script leak.

:O

[Agnarr]

I think this is one of the biggest thrills watching Superman. I can't wait to see what they've pulled off with current technology. I would like to see everything above, including homages. But what I would REALLY like to see is Kal-El going supersonic, with the shockwave and boom, and then see him break mach 5 and go hypersonic. How sweet would that be?!

[Superman \S/]

Nice ideas Snake.

[superkong 500]

I would love a scene in which supes flies through building at high speeds(but not sonic boom) and we see him in a camera angle like the one seen i nthe aniamted storyboards of the plane scene but instead of just seeng his cape from behind we see his full body like the boots and cape flapping,and then he flies low passing above people,very close to them and them and then going up and banking and the camera following his moves as he swoops up and down.

[Agentdemon]

One of the very few things I liked about the pilot episode of Lois & Clark was how they showed Clark casually using his powers, like they were second nature. Things like him floating up to fix the lightbulb, walking around on the ceiling, playing with a crumpled piece of paper with his super-breath, and so on.

I'd love to see some of that.

[The Kid]

I want people pov shots. Like in rocketeer when you saw how people saw him from in the plane.

Just copy rocketeer actually. They did a good job with that movie's flying scenes.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1186570,00.html


like this only better.

[StarvingArtist]

I would love to see Supes weaving around buildings while the camera angle changes with the orange light of a sunset hitting his face. The complete opposite of the x y configurations of the original blue screen STM effects shots.

[Showtime]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1186570,00.html


like this only better.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Lots of good ideas, guys. Everything from the epic to the subtle. I'd like to see Superman doing everything from flying supersonic and creating waves behind him in the ocean (a'la Firefox) to using his powers casually while bored at his desk.

I'm thinking Singer is going to portray a more "realistic" view of flying; i.e. the camera shaking when Superman whizzes by or even having difficulty holding Superman in frame he's moving so fast. Maybe like how Batman Begins handled Batman's hand-to-hand combat.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7677/supermanflying7rt.jpg

New pic?? I've never seen that before!

Edit: Hehe, missed the Official Pics thread.

[Showtime]

New pic?? I've never seen that before!

Edit: Hehe, missed the Official Pics thread.

Time Magazine. Fatboy just posted it in the pictures thread!

[Agnarr]

I like the camera shaking, difficulty keeping Supes in frame idea. Although too much of that and I'd be a little upset--its been too long since seeing Superman on the big screen, and I want to see him using his powers as much as possible, in clear view. I understand the reason behind the way the fight scenes in BB were filmed, and technically it worked, but it did not make a lot of people happy because they were expecting the fight scenes to be like the other movies. Under Singer, it should be different, I think. Batman and Superman being opposites most of the time, I feel that Superman should be shown on camera differently. But I'm not really worried, I trust Singer to deliver.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Oh trust me, I want to CLEARLY see Superman flying, and I'm sure we will. I think we may see some of this BB type camerawork when the action calls for it, i.e. lots of chaos and confusion.

We've seen some fast panning already; once in the blogs and then at the end of the teaser when Superman flies by at incredible speeds. It's kind of a jarring effect really, and lends a good feel for Superman's speed. It's like he moves so fast we can barely see it.

[Captain Kirk]

Wow, can you imagine that, as he breaks out of the ocean and the water trail follows him for miles up in the sky as the SUPERMAN THEME blares!! He's flying so fast, he's dry in no time!!
That reminds me of when he escaped Luthor's Lair in STM! I like that discription,and I hope it is in the movie.

[explode7]

I'll like to see some flying sequences similiar to Harry Potter flying on the broom in the latter potter flicks. That looked pretty amazing IMO.

[Topdawg]

I wanna see superman doing some kung fu while flying!

that would be awesome

[Cinemaman]

I wanna see superman doing some kung fu while flying!

that would be awesome

Meh...

[Cinemaman]

New pic as I said looks great, I am sure we will see SUperman making amazing and awesome flying shots!

[Naite22]

I wanna see EPIC real looking flying, NOT matrix cgi crap flying!

[dark_b]

i wana see also epic flying. i think singer can pull it off. but a trailer could help us.

lets not forget something. we still dont know how the style of teh flying will look. the traielr will give us a sneek peak. trailer......................we need it hahah :)

[Naite22]

^ exactly, we still really haven't seen supes fly yet... we will in the theatrical trailer, which is why it'll be so awesome!:)

[Super C]

I remember a while back reading or seeing that they wanted to try and shoot the flying scenes as if they were trying to film a real life jet flying through the air to give that real life feel of motion and flight as the camera is trying to focus on him. If so, it can be very stunning visual feast. Just think of the movie Stealth (I know it sucked but it had some really good flying sequences). They have the same VFX team on SR.:up:

[dark_b]

:o
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/121330/1024/Pictures/FlyingIronMan.gif

http://www.dailymotion.com/ingy489/video/x2n6nu_iron-man-exclusive-comic-con-clip_shortfilms

[El Payaso]

singer make something new. something that is yours. :mad:

Jason.

[Super Kal]

he meant something that's successful

[El Payaso]

he meant something that's successful

More than Batman Begins? Done.

[Super Kal]

that already has a sequel... can you say the same for SR?



nope.

[El Payaso]

Any crap is having sequels these days. It doesn't say a lot.

[Super Kal]

I guess SR was the crap that got away, huh...

[daywalker2007]

:o
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/121330/1024/Pictures/FlyingIronMan.gif

http://www.dailymotion.com/ingy489/video/x2n6nu_iron-man-exclusive-comic-con-clip_shortfilms

that is pant wetting and pant creaming footage, and thats not even complete,

god, this shows why superman returns was a travesty.

Iron Man is showin flying in iconic fashion.

Singer, you are a wank stain and a grade a moron.

How is that the people behind Iron man can make the exact suit from the comics ??? no need for mini shields etc,
just an exact replica.

Oh, i forgot, they got proper people who respect the character and know how to make proper movies.

[El Payaso]

How is that the people behind Iron man can make the exact suit from the comics ??? no need for mini shields etc,
just an exact replica.

Shame on you, Nolan?

Oh, i forgot, they got proper people who respect the character and know how to make proper movies.

You're so lucky you already saw the movie. Please just don't throw spoilers ok?

[daywalker2007]

Shame on you Nolan?

WTF are you on? crack?

Nolan can do what he likes because Batman's costume is not fixed in stone like Supermans.

You don't mess with Superman's costume.

You think you are clever with your comments, but one look at your avatar shows your taste in characters.

Yeah, it seems you like really Camp versions of the Joker with the Cesar "queerio" Romero.

Guess that means Cesar isn't the only rectum rider in town,

Looks like El Payaso joined the rectum riding brigade.

[El Payaso]

Shame on you Nolan?

WTF are you on? crack?

Once in a while there's this ungrateful task of explaining joeks and ironies to that "especially skilled" kind of posters:

Nolan didn't a exact replica of the bat-suit and yet it worked. The "replica formula" is not for 100% of movies. It also worked for X-Men.

Nolan can do what he likes because Batman's costume is not fixed in stone like Supermans.

Yes it was. Untill Burton came in 1989 and changed it forever by improving the original concept. Before 1989, Batman's suit was grey tights and blue mask and cape. Another example of how non replicas work very good.

You don't mess with Superman's costume.

Thats' why Singer just made little changes.

You think you are clever with your comments, but one look at your avatar shows your taste in characters.

If you don't, then I applaud your honesty since you don't have anything to feel clever about.

Yeah, it seems you like really Camp versions of the Joker with the Cesar "queerio" Romero.

Another ungrateful task due to my commitment with he "especially skilled audience": I don't really like Cesar Romero too much, but since my name is El Payaso I thought a clown would be nice but not anyone. Then, I didn't want it to be the comics Joker because it would have been too 'hey I'm a sicko, beware I feel identified with the Joker' an I didn't want Nicholson because it was too much about a specific movie.

Soyou see, Cesar Romero was ideal since it was a parodic image I am not engaged to (not big fan of the 60's TV series) and that you shouldn't take too seriously, which is something you totaly fail at, amongst many other things.

Guess that means Cesar isn't the only rectum rider in town,

Whatever sexual reference fits you more.

Looks like El Payaso joined the rectum riding brigade.

I'm really not getting this Cesar Romero-rectum association. But sometimes our minds play tricks on us by seeing things we secretly long for that are not actually there and that we can't make. Your shrink can explain it better.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

that is pant wetting and pant creaming footage, and thats not even complete,

god, this shows why superman returns was a travesty.

Iron Man is showin flying in iconic fashion.

Singer, you are a wank stain and a grade a moron.

How is that the people behind Iron man can make the exact suit from the comics ??? no need for mini shields etc,
just an exact replica.

Oh, i forgot, they got proper people who respect the character and know how to make proper movies.

Ok, but the flying in SR looks much better than the Iron Man footage you are seeing IMO. Different opinions, arent they a *****?:whatever:

[afan]

Ok, but the flying in SR looks much better than the Iron Man footage you are seeing IMO. Different opinions, arent they a *****?:whatever:

AVEITWITHJAMON, have you seen the footage?

It's only my opinion, true enough, but I gotta say the few seconds of Iron Man footage, that is currently viewable, completely outclasses all the flying FX of SR.

[daywalker2007]

Once in a while there's this ungrateful task of explaining joeks and ironies to that "especially skilled" kind of posters:

Nolan didn't a exact replica of the bat-suit and yet it worked. The "replica formula" is not for 100% of movies. It also worked for X-Men.



Yes it was. Untill Burton came in 1989 and changed it forever by improving the original concept. Before 1989, Batman's suit was grey tights and blue mask and cape. Another example of how non replicas work very good.



Thats' why Singer just made little changes.



If you don't, then I applaud your honesty since you don't have anything to feel clever about.



Another ungrateful task due to my commitment with he "especially skilled audience": I don't really like Cesar Romero too much, but since my name is El Payaso I thought a clown would be nice but not anyone. Then, I didn't want it to be the comics Joker because it would have been too 'hey I'm a sicko, beware I feel identified with the Joker' an I didn't want Nicholson because it was too much about a specific movie.

Soyou see, Cesar Romero was ideal since it was a parodic image I am not engaged to (not big fan of the 60's TV series) and that you shouldn't take too seriously, which is something you totaly fail at, amongst many other things.



Whatever sexual reference fits you more.



I'm really not getting this Cesar Romero-rectum association. But sometimes our minds play tricks on us by seeing things we secretly long for that are not actually there and that we can't make. Your shrink can explain it better.

I think your shrink can explain it better to you.
After all, with an avatar like yours, it looks like you've been into rectum riding for many a year.

[El Payaso]

I think your shrink can explain it better to you.
After all, with an avatar like yours, it looks like you've been into rectum riding for many a year.
http://www.my-funny-messages.com/images/funnycomebacks.jpg

[daywalker2007]

http://www.my-funny-messages.com/images/funnycomebacks.jpg

i don't need funny comebacks, i already won.

LOL

looks like cesar romero's boyfriend El Payaso is having a fit.

ooohh


:oldrazz: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

[El Payaso]

i don't need funny comebacks, i already won.

LOL

looks like cesar romero's boyfriend El Payaso is having a fit.

ooohh


:oldrazz: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

????


http://www.nevadamagazine.com/Carrot.Top.jpg

"Thanks for make me look funny"

[daywalker2007]

????


http://www.nevadamagazine.com/Carrot.Top.jpg

"Thanks for make me look funny"

no need to post a pic of yourself El Payaso,

you already humiliated yourself, LOL

:woot: :woot:

[El Payaso]

no need to post a pic of yourself El Payaso,

you already humiliated yourself, LOL

:woot: :woot:

How? By owning you in every one of your points about the actual subject here and showing you're unable to reply properly to my actual points?

Yeah, a few emoticons will hide that really good.

[daywalker2007]

How? By owning you in every one of your points about the actual subject here and showing you're unable to reply properly to my actual points?

Yeah, a few emoticons will hide that really good.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9051/elpayasoownagehm7.jpg

oooh,look who's hot and bothered now.

Under pressure now are we! LOL:woot: :woot:

Speaking of owned, the fact that you have been owned in every response by me, and i wasn't even trying, is more funnier than i imagined!

I don't even know why im bothering to waste my time on you, you just humiliated yourself again!

Keep going, its getting funnier by the hour!:oldrazz: :oldrazz:

Call Cesar, he might throw in a few burittos to sooth your pain, LOL

:cwink:

[El Payaso]

oooh,look who's hot and bothered now.

Under pressure now are we! LOL:woot: :woot:

Oh loz I can use teh paint. That puts so much pressure!!111!!

Speaking of owned, the fact that you have been owned in every response by me, and i wasn't even trying, is more funnier than i imagined!

In fact you haven't answered a thing yet except for what's your highest brain's effort: freudian rectal association.

You sure haven't tried or you'd be exposed as openly unable to reply to the actual subject. You can't face that. But reading beyond your replies, your rectum is clewarly suffering your own ownage's effects. :up:

I don't even know why im bothering to waste my time on you, you just humiliated yourself again!

Because by trying to reply to the actual subject you'd be forced to admit the already palpable defeat to your intelectual superior.

Keep going, its getting funnier by the hour!:oldrazz: :oldrazz:

Call Cesar, he might throw in a few burittos to sooth your pain, LOL

Burritos jokes? If that is "getting funnier by the hour" your rectum is really where your intelect resides. Hence, the references.

[daywalker2007]

Oh loz I can use teh paint. That puts so much pressure!!111!!



In fact you haven't answered a thing yet except for what's your highest brain's effort: freudian rectal association.

You sure haven't tried or you'd be exposed as openly unable to reply to the actual subject. You can't face that. But reading beyond your replies, your rectum is clewarly suffering your own ownage's effects. :up:



Because by trying to reply to the actual subject you'd be forced to admit the already palpable defeat to your intelectual superior.



Burritos jokes? If that is "getting funnier by the hour" your rectum is really where your intelect resides. Hence, the references.

Looks like you have lost the plot again!
another victory for me! Without having to try!

you are under so much pressure you can't even spell "clearly".

Instead, you call it "clewarly". :cwink: :oldrazz:

I don't know what planet you are from,
but reading that, it seems you are indeed suffering from your own diagnosis of "freudian rectal association".

Looks like you just owned yourself without my help!:woot: :woot:

I bet sigmund is rolling in his grave now! His pupil "El Payaso" fails and becomes "teh" owned from his own ineptness.

LOL

Even Cesar would be laughing at you now!

:oldrazz:

[El Payaso]

hehe, you're like a Bubble Forrest Gump boy having fun in your own world. Only one laughing at your own jokes and having a big party on your own, avoiding to reply my points about the thread's subject due to inability... Sadly I can't be your Lt. Dan.

[daywalker2007]

hehe, you're like a Bubble Forrest Gump boy having fun in your own world. Only one laughing at your own jokes and having a big party on your own, avoiding to reply my points about the thread's subject due to inability... Sadly I can't be your Lt. Dan.

You Owned yourself & humiliated yourself with your own words. I don't think anybody on the planet could have done that apart from you.

LOL

Looks like El Payaso went on another rectum ride with Lt. Dan.:cwink:

:oldrazz: :woot:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

AVEITWITHJAMON, have you seen the footage?

It's only my opinion, true enough, but I gotta say the few seconds of Iron Man footage, that is currently viewable, completely outclasses all the flying FX of SR.

I have only seen the GIF above, and IMO, it doesnt surpass the flying in SR. Plus, Iron Man will be a lot easier to render, since he doesnt have a cape or hair that has to flap with the wind does he?

[El Payaso]

I have only seen the GIF above, and IMO, it doesnt surpass the flying in SR. Plus, Iron Man will be a lot easier to render, since he doesnt have a cape or hair that has to flap with the wind does he?

And honestly it's very similar to some of the SR shots. When Superman goes through the roof of the Daily Planet, he also provokes that boom white thing because of the speed and all. That's why I said they were taking good ideas.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

And honestly it's very similar to some of the SR shots. When Superman goes through the roof of the Daily Planet, he also provokes that boom white thing because of the speed and all. That's why I said they were taking good ideas.

Exactly, at least in 2/3 scene of Superman flying, the sonic boom happens because Superman breaks the sound barrier. Yet Iron Man copies it, and all of a sudden its better and new? Give me a break.

[El Payaso]

Exactly, at least in 2/3 scene of Superman flying, the sonic boom happens because Superman breaks the sound barrier. Yet Iron Man copies it, and all of a sudden its better and new? Give me a break.

lol indeed.

[BMM]

Guess that means Cesar isn't the only rectum rider in town,

Looks like El Payaso joined the rectum riding brigade.


The rectum riding brigade?



...What the Hell is wrong with people on these boards?

[El Payaso]

lol

[afan]

I have only seen the GIF above, and IMO, it doesnt surpass the flying in SR. Plus, Iron Man will be a lot easier to render, since he doesnt have a cape or hair that has to flap with the wind does he?


That explains it, that gif is preceded by some scenes involving jet fighters and Iron Man in aerobatic maneuvers that are outstanding, and the gif does not include the sound fx, which are surely an integral part of any effect work.

It's not about capes and hair it's about angles, employing sound fx, editing and clever camera work, which IMO in SR were rather proletariat, repetetive, and mundane.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That explains it, that gif is preceded by some scenes involving jet fighters and Iron Man in aerobatic maneuvers that are outstanding, and the gif does not include the sound fx, which are surely an integral part of any effect work.

It's not about capes and hair it's about angles, employing sound fx, editing and clever camera work, which IMO in SR were rather proletariat, repetetive, and mundane.

Well i disagree, i thought the flying in SR was brilliant, and i like that his hair and cape flapped while flying, made it all the more real IMO. Plus, as i said earlier, Iron Man will be easier to do than Superman was.

[afan]

Well i disagree, i thought the flying in SR was brilliant, and i like that his hair and cape flapped while flying, made it all the more real IMO. Plus, as i said earlier, Iron Man will be easier to do than Superman was.

One of the details of the Iron Man scenes involves the force of the air on his limbs, it's evident in the footage, but less so in the gif, the use of the repulsars in Iron Man's palms, and various machinations in the armor, in order to steer, attentions to CGI details that IMO does not bespeak of the ease of creating the effect, relative to Superman in flight.


The cape, a no brainer, one of the faults I find in STM's flying is the static position of the cape during most flying scenes.

The hair tho, would work for me if Superman's "do" in SR was consistently a loose toussled look, which would fit the flying. However for me the adherence to the spit curl coif in non-action scenes looked very fake and forced. Was he always super-combing his hair into that look? In order for it to be a natural appearance the hair would by and large be un fazed (ala STM) during the flying scenes.

Not a big deal to be sure but it did bother me.:yay:

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

One of the details of the Iron Man scenes involves the force of the air on his limbs, it's evident in the footage, but less so in the gif, the use of the repulsars in Iron Man's palms, and various machinations in the armor, in order to steer, attentions to CGI details that IMO does not bespeak of the ease of creating the effect, relative to Superman in flight.


The cape, a no brainer, one of the faults I find in STM's flying is the static position of the cape during most flying scenes.

The hair tho, would work for me if Superman's "do" in SR was consistently a loose toussled look, which would fit the flying. However for me the adherence to the spit curl coif in non-action scenes looked very fake and forced. Was he always super-combing his hair into that look? In order for it to be a natural appearance the hair would by and large be un fazed (ala STM) during the flying scenes.

Not a big deal to be sure but it did bother me.:yay:

Well it didnt bother me to much the way his hair was flapping all around one minute and perfectly done the next, there are little moments like this in every movie, and i thought his hair and cape flapping REALLY added realism to it.

BUT, come 2008 i may be agreeing with you about IM, HOWEVER, it does have a 2 year advantage on SR, which is a lot in SFX terms.

[afan]

Well it didnt bother me to much the way his hair was flapping all around one minute and perfectly done the next, there are little moments like this in every movie, and i thought his hair and cape flapping REALLY added realism to it.


True, but those are typically continuity faux pas, in the case of SR it was "part of the plan."





BUT, come 2008 i may be agreeing with you about IM, HOWEVER, it does have a 2 year advantage on SR, which is a lot in SFX terms.

Absolutely, the technology is rapidly advancing in it's abilities, but the technology is only a tool in the director's hand. The sophistication of the technology does not guarantee a "wow" response.

In most of SR' flying scenes, Superman traveled in a prone position in a straight line. Very rarely was I impressed with his manueverability or marveled at his speed and power. This was not the fault of the technology, but it was the fault of unimaginative creative input.

[SuperDaniel]

The only flying that impressed me on SR was the plane sequence and the gliding down in the roof of the DP.The rest is just meeeeeh.

[afan]

The only flying that impressed me on SR was the plane sequence and the gliding down in the roof of the DP.The rest is just meeeeeh.

Even those scenes lacked some punch for me. No thrilling take off to the rescue, missed oportunity to show us Superman rocketing past the pursuit jets, etc.

[SuperDaniel]

I know...I guess we`ll just have to be happy with SII...That take off was amazing...

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Even those scenes lacked some punch for me. No thrilling take off to the rescue, missed oportunity to show us Superman rocketing past the pursuit jets, etc.

I thought those scene were amazing to be honest , especially Superman swivelling with the plane as he is trying to catch the nose. That small bit of that whole scene still leaves me breathless every time.