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Jlandsw
04-26-2006, 10:38 AM
After tonight's AMAZING season finale, I gathered a list of things to look forward to next year:
-The appearance of Jor-El in human form
-Clark leaving Smallville for Metropolis (rumored!!)
-Seeing the Phantom Zone
-Clark possibly gaining the gift of flight (how else is he gunna save Martha and Lois)
-Evil Lex
-Zod in human form
-More Brainiac
-The return of Aethyr and Nam-Ek from S5 premiere (confirmed by Al and Miles)
-Possible Clois build up

^^^More than enough reasons to stay tuned!!!

Kane
04-26-2006, 11:07 AM
Put it this way. This is what I want to see happen in season 6:

- Clark starts travelling the world, doing journalism classes aboard to write stories on alot of political issues all over the globe.

- When a crisis occurs, Clark saves the day but this time keeps his identity concealed. Works in secret.

- People believe theres an invisible mysterious guardian angel in the world and the media dubs him 'Superman'.... this way Clark can have the title 'Superman' associated with him without wearing the suit yet.

- Just as Clark is growing closer to 'Jor-El', Jor-El turns out to be Eradicator.

- Detective John Jones appears in Smallville to investigate why all the top secret Krypto-freaks of the week are dying off. Their mutated condition wont allow them to survive for too long.

- Lex and Lana both uncover the truth about Clark finally but of course Lex's mind gets messed up when he becomes the vessel of Zod and Lionel becomes the vessel of Jorel.

- Pete Ross returns. Cmon G+M, all poor Sam Jones III wanted was more focus. He works for Lex but also is an inside spy for Clark and Chloe. As he grows closer to Lana to learn more about what her and Lex were doing, he slowly develops an attraction to Lana. Could he sway Lana out of Lex's corrupt grip?

- Lori Lemaris appears as Clark's new love interest and her backstory has ties with Altantis and Mercy Reef also, as a cross promotion for both shows. This relationship works alot better when Clark releases shes not human either, but not a psychopath like Alicia.

- Something happens between Lionel and Martha which puts Clark and Lex in a very difficult position.

- Brandon Routh appears as the wayward son of Dr Virgil Swann who reluctancly gives Clark secret information about Krypton that his late father had concealed from Clark. The agency that knows Clark's secret will be dealt with.

- Chloe quits Journalism deciding she can make a bigger impact as a TV news reporter in Metropolis than working at the bottom of the Daily Planet.

JAX
04-26-2006, 11:39 AM
Pretty good ideas, I think this Board needs a thread "What we dont want to see in Season 6"....from what I've heard writers and producers do read forums.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 11:41 AM
Good ideas Kane

Brainiac 8
04-26-2006, 11:48 AM
- Brandon Routh appears as the wayward son of Dr Virgil Swann who reluctancly gives Clark secret information about Krypton that his late father had concealed from Clark. The agency that knows Clark's secret will be dealt with.

Not Routh, this is the part I think they should have Dean Cain play, as Virgil Swans son. I think he would fit the part better.

But great ideas though.:up:

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 11:51 AM
Agree I think Routh should have no place on the show Cain on the other hand I feel should be the real Jor-El.

Jlandsw
04-26-2006, 11:57 AM
Agree I think Routh should have no place on the show Cain on the other hand I feel should be the real Jor-El.

I agree, no Routh.....maybe Dean Cain. He might make a good Jor-El. But I would rather see Terrance Stamp as Jor-El because he already does the voice.

Brainiac 8
04-26-2006, 12:03 PM
Agree I think Routh should have no place on the show Cain on the other hand I feel should be the real Jor-El.

If he didn't do Swan's son, then I agree, Cain as Jor-El would be great.

Him and Teri Hatcher as Lara. That would so rock!:up:

Super_Ludacris
04-26-2006, 12:13 PM
Put it this way. This is what I want to see happen in season 6:

- Clark starts travelling the world, doing journalism classes aboard to write stories on alot of political issues all over the globe.

- When a crisis occurs, Clark saves the day but this time keeps his identity concealed. Works in secret.

- People believe theres an invisible mysterious guardian angel in the world and the media dubs him 'Superman'.... this way Clark can have the title 'Superman' associated with him without wearing the suit yet.

- Just as Clark is growing closer to 'Jor-El', Jor-El turns out to be Eradicator.

- Detective John Jones appears in Smallville to investigate why all the top secret Krypto-freaks of the week are dying off. Their mutated condition wont allow them to survive for too long.

- Lex and Lana both uncover the truth about Clark finally but of course Lex's mind gets messed up when he becomes the vessel of Zod and Lionel becomes the vessel of Jorel.

- Pete Ross returns. Cmon G+M, all poor Sam Jones III wanted was more focus. He works for Lex but also is an inside spy for Clark and Chloe. As he grows closer to Lana to learn more about what her and Lex were doing, he slowly develops an attraction to Lana. Could he sway Lana out of Lex's corrupt grip?

- Lori Lemaris appears as Clark's new love interest and her backstory has ties with Altantis and Mercy Reef also, as a cross promotion for both shows. This relationship works alot better when Clark releases shes not human either, but not a psychopath like Alicia.

- Something happens between Lionel and Martha which puts Clark and Lex in a very difficult position.

- Brandon Routh appears as the wayward son of Dr Virgil Swann who reluctancly gives Clark secret information about Krypton that his late father had concealed from Clark. The agency that knows Clark's secret will be dealt with.
- Chloe quits Journalism deciding she can make a bigger impact as a TV news reporter in Metropolis than working at the bottom of the Daily Planet.



Those ideas I hightlighted just wont happen and the last 2 are just stupid (no offense, I see your perspective). The others are good but I think season 6 will be the last but I dont even think A+M are gonna go all the way with those things. The show has become less about Superman/Clark Kent's evolution and more about simply his time in Smallville and/or the people in Smallville with him. I dont know how they can squeeze that all into 22 final episodes.

Kane
04-26-2006, 12:32 PM
Dean Cain is way too old to play Virgil Swann's son and doesnt even look the part. Brandon is the perfect age and looks believeable as Chris being his biological father.

The logic for using Brandon and Dean is simple. Smallville can have the record for having all the surviving Superman actors appear on the series.

I think using Brandon as Swann's son is a very responsible way of handling it. He wont be Superman obviously, thats SV Clark's destiny. He'll just be a human, who helps Clark on the way, as Chris Reeve did.

Plus the story with the agency need to be resolved. Its unclear how many are a part of this and what exactly they all know.

Its a very responsible way of making peace over the casting wars and having the two appear together, but TW as Clark Kent obviously.

Kane
04-26-2006, 12:36 PM
As far as Clark travelling the world. It obviously wont be like Birthright. This is how I'd do it;

Clark can travel anywhere in the world in a matter of seconds. He could still go to school in Smallville and live there but Clark himself does his own personal journalism studies by travelling to other countries and documenting his own findings about the political and social problems he witnesses.. Thus he starts to gain a new understanding of the world around him.

Basically he'll be almost like a hidden observer. He only interferes in secret when people are in danger.

Kane
04-26-2006, 12:42 PM
If he didn't do Swan's son, then I agree, Cain as Jor-El would be great.

Him and Teri Hatcher as Lara. That would so rock!:up:

Except Dean looks nothing like TW, and TW was Jor-El 20 years prior to the destruction of Krypton..


Teri Hatcher for an episode? ...that'd be the end of the entire budget of season 6.

Super_Ludacris
04-26-2006, 12:59 PM
Dean Cain is way too old to play Virgil Swann's son and doesnt even look the part. Brandon is the perfect age and looks believeable as Chris being his biological father.

The logic for using Brandon and Dean is simple. Smallville can have the record for having all the surviving Superman actors appear on the series.

I think using Brandon as Swann's son is a very responsible way of handling it. He wont be Superman obviously, thats SV Clark's destiny. He'll just be a human, who helps Clark on the way, as Chris Reeve did.

Plus the story with the agency need to be resolved. Its unclear how many are a part of this and what exactly they all know.

Its a very responsible way of making peace over the casting wars and having the two appear together, but TW as Clark Kent obviously.



Why the **** would the producers care about making "peace" over a casting war that only idiots on the internet give a **** about?

Kane
04-26-2006, 01:32 PM
Hey, personally I dont care about it. Im perfectly happy with Brandon being casted for Superman, but alot of the SV fanbase seems devasted over 'the casting wars'..... so whatever, Itd be nice to see so that it doesnt seem like 'Smallville' and the Superman films are against each other but part of a united front.

I also think BR on SV would clear up alot of confusion from normal ppl who dont know anything about Superman and believe SV is a prequel to the movie. With Brandon playing a role that isnt Superman on SV, it will make them seem seperate and SV into an alternate universe compared to the Superman films.

Super_Ludacris
04-26-2006, 01:34 PM
SV fanbase is devastated because it wasnt Welling. **** em. There not competing against each other, we all know that. Who are the 12 year olds who think with this logic. Putting Routh on the show seems random and forced

musclesforsupes
04-26-2006, 01:36 PM
Brandon Routh Guest Stars as Superman in an episode, I did like that April fools joke that Kryptonsite played it was a good example.

Kane
04-26-2006, 01:44 PM
There not competing against each other, Who are the 12 year olds who think with this logic

The ones who dubbed it 'the casting wars'

Ya its pretty gay. Personally I wasnt affected by it at all... but since so many SV fans are.........


Well theres nothing really bad with Brandon on the show in this capacity. If Chris could appear, and that was successful, so could Brandon and Dean.

Super_Ludacris
04-26-2006, 01:48 PM
The ones who dubbed it 'the casting wars'

Ya its pretty gay. Personally I wasnt affected by it at all... but since so many SV fans are.........

Well theres nothing really bad with Brandon on the show in this capacity. If Chris could appear, and that was successful, so could Brandon and Dean.

It's only the ones on the internet, besides do you not think it's odd for Routh to be on the show? Dude just does the a big franchise film and his next project is being a secondary character for the teen version of the show? It makes no sense. Why would Routh even do it. I would think after doing Superman he would want to show the world what else he is capable away from Superman-related things.

Kane
04-26-2006, 01:52 PM
It's only the ones on the internet, besides do you not think it's odd for Routh to be on the show? Dude just does the a big franchise film and his next project is being a secondary character for the teen version of the show? It makes no sense. Why would Routh even do it. I would think after doing Superman he would want to show the world what else he is capable away from Superman-related things.

Cause hes a nice guy? Hes not some stuck up Hollywood type or anything. I dont think he will be.

Then again, you have a point of coming down from an epic major motion picture to a teen tv series, it may be too much of a degression, at least from his agent's standpoint most likely.

I guess his best chance to have appeared was this season when he was still an unknown.

Super_Ludacris
04-26-2006, 02:00 PM
Cause hes a nice guy? Hes not some stuck up Hollywood type or anything. I dont think he will be.

Then again, you have a point of coming down from an epic major motion picture to a teen tv series, it may be too much of a degression, at least from his agent's standpoint most likely.

I guess his best chance to have appeared was this season when he was still an unknown.

He could be a saint but that aint got **** to do with him being on Smallville. On top of that nevermind that he's going to a tv show or if its teen why would he want to do another Superman project seperate from the franchise he's in? It makes no sense.

Supershizzle
04-26-2006, 02:03 PM
The ones who dubbed it 'the casting wars'

Ya its pretty gay. Personally I wasnt affected by it at all... but since so many SV fans are.........


Well theres nothing really bad with Brandon on the show in this capacity. If Chris could appear, and that was successful, so could Brandon and Dean.


Everyone refers to it as the casting wars no matter who they liked. Might help to actually have been on the site back then and know what you're talking about before you cream yourself taking another shot at the smallville fanbase...

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 02:07 PM
Thing is I do agree with Kane if Reeve could do the show so could Routh. The problem would come with the backlash from SV fans. SR fans could care less because he is Superman but to many SV it would be like a slap in the face of not only did he not get the part; but now the guy who did get the part is up here as the son of the guy who will forever be known as Superman.

avidreader
04-26-2006, 02:07 PM
Cause hes a nice guy? Hes not some stuck up Hollywood type or anything. I dont think he will be.

Give him time.

Super_Ludacris
04-26-2006, 02:11 PM
Thing is I do agree with Kane if Reeve could do the show so could Routh. The problem would come with the backlash from SV fans. SR fans could care less because he is Superman but to many SV it would be like a slap in the face of not only did he not get the part; but now the guy who did get the part is up here as the son of the guy who will forever be known as Superman.


I think SR fans would be pissed too. They hate Smallville too because it's not faithful to the mythology. But I mean, come on guys, I would think it would be random if Bale turned up on Smallville too just to show Bruce. It's a TV show like it just seem random and a little forced. Reeve did it because he's was older and years remove from Superman.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 02:14 PM
SR fans might get upset but get over it because Routh is Superman nothing will change that. The problem comes with the die-hard SV fans. Other then that most SR fans wouldn't care really. Sure you might say I wis they didn't do that but other then that they wouldn't care.

AgentPat
04-26-2006, 02:14 PM
Uhh... no. Just NO!!! I wouldn't want to see BR on SV even if he were a meteor freak. NO. Just... NOOOOOO!!!!!

Gah! :mad:

Moving on...

As to what they could do for the 6th and 7th seasons (assuming they go two), they have a fairly open palate. In no particular order, I'd like to see...

1. The origins of the suit, its construction, and how the \8/ evolves into the \S/. It's a fairly HUGE detail in this part of Superman's history and should translate well to SV's episodic format as they can throw clues out over the arc of an entire season. They've already established what the suit should look like in previous episodes. Now they just have to put the pieces together.

2. Superbreath. I don't care how "corny" the effect looks; it's one of Superman's powers. Make it happen already. 'Nuf said! :rolleyes:

3. Lois at The Planet. How *does* she get that ace reporter job anyway? What sparks her interest? Chloe? Lois is there before Clark, yet Clark and Chloe are at The Planet more than Lois is. Hello? LOL There's a whole WORLD of exposition left untouched with Lois' story. Lets get crackin' on that! :p

4. Clark makes peace with Jor-El. Have him resolve his insecurities with his birth father so he has a place to go for advice about his Kryptonian heritage.

5. Zod. Hee! :D

6. Bonus: Find a role for Gene Hackman. Please? :(

Other than those things, I think the show is doing fine as is. FOTW's are important to keep Clark on his toes (so to speak). Lex is nefarious as ever and getting worse (good, good!) Keep the episodes at a nice mix between epic and humanistic (the Hiddens to Fragiles), and keep the cast challenged with good, emotional performances to show off their talent. If they can do all that, I'll be very happy. :up: :)

KalKai
04-26-2006, 02:14 PM
Can we move on please, speculate on other things, lol.

blksuperman2
04-26-2006, 02:15 PM
This is what will happen in season 6.

Lex will still only be pseudo-evil

Clark will still be in Smallville and won't transition to Pulitzer Reporter Status.

Clark will still wonder if Lana is the one.

Chloe will become even more Brainy

Lionel will have a memory lost and forget everything that has happen to him. (He might be blind again too)

That's it, then the last 2 episodes Clark will all of sudden desire to be a reporter and so will Lois and the season will end with them both at the Daily Planet working for Chloe just like they did at the Torch.

Bruce_Wayne29
04-26-2006, 02:16 PM
I liked most of Kane's ideas except the Routh one.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 02:17 PM
Really if they don't kill Chloe off I would love it if she came back to SV and ran the local newspaper.

Kane
04-26-2006, 02:24 PM
Everyone refers to it as the casting wars no matter who they liked. Might help to actually have been on the site back then and know what you're talking about before you cream yourself taking another shot at the smallville fanbase...

I duno about you but messageboards dont do that for me.

Kane
04-26-2006, 02:25 PM
Really if they don't kill Chloe off I would love it if she came back to SV and ran the local newspaper.

Theyd never kill Chloe off. This is Chloe-ville afterall -_-

Brainiac 8
04-26-2006, 02:26 PM
Uhh... no. Just NO!!! I wouldn't want to see BR on SV even if he were a meteor freak. NO. Just... NOOOOOO!!!!!


As to what they could do for the 6th and 7th seasons (assuming they go two), they have a fairly open palate. In no particular order, I'd like to see...

1. The origins of the suit, its construction, and how the \8/ evolves into the \S/. It's a fairly HUGE detail in this part of Superman's history and should translate well to SV's episodic format as they can throw clues out over the arc of an entire season. They've already established what the suit should look like in previous episodes. Now they just have to put the pieces together.

2. Superbreath. I don't care how "corny" the effect looks; it's one of Superman's powers. Make it happen already. 'Nuf said!

3. Lois at The Planet. How *does* she get that ace reporter job anyway? What sparks her interest? Chloe? Lois is there before Clark, yet Clark and Chloe are at The Planet more than Lois is. Hello? LOL There's a whole WORLD of exposition left untouched with Lois' story. Lets get crackin' on that!

4. Clark makes peace with Jor-El. Have him resolve his insecurities with his birth father so he has a place to go for advice about his Kryptonian heritage.

5. Zod. Hee! :D

6. Bonus: Find a role for Gene Hackman. Please? :(

Other than those things, I think the show is doing fine as is. FOTW's are important to keep Clark on his toes (so to speak). Lex is nefarious as ever and getting worse (good, good!) Keep the episodes at a nice mix between epic and humanistic (the Hiddens to Fragiles), and keep the cast challenged with good, emotional performances to show off their talent. If they can do all that, I'll be very happy. :up: :)

Excellent points Pat. Gene Hackman: :up: :up: :up:

Also: Show Clarks interest in World affairs grow.
Clark needs his first humiliating beating, just to show him that he needs to think through some of his fights.
Gene Hackman/ Dean Cain role.
Show why Jor-El has been acting the way he has through the show.
Explain or show the Phantom Zone.
Show Perry White becoming Editor of the Planet.

Kane
04-26-2006, 02:27 PM
This is what will happen in season 6.

Lex will still only be pseudo-evil

Clark will still be in Smallville and won't transition to Pulitzer Reporter Status.

Clark will still wonder if Lana is the one.

Chloe will become even more Brainy

Lionel will have a memory lost and forget everything that has happen to him. (He might be blind again too)

That's it, then the last 2 episodes Clark will all of sudden desire to be a reporter and so will Lois and the season will end with them both at the Daily Planet working for Chloe just like they did at the Torch.

eh most likely.

Lets take some bets on what movies will 'inspire' SV episodes next season.

I forsee a Davinci Code episode.

Kane
04-26-2006, 02:29 PM
I think SR fans would be pissed too. They hate Smallville too because it's not faithful to the mythology.

I dont think thats the reason actually. Liberties are fine. Its all in the execution.

SR's execution of these liberties could be just as bad as Smallvilles... but I'm trying to remain somewhat positive about it. Hoping for the best on June 30th. DCAU = liberties done in a respectful, well written way.

It may be all the teen stuff also that draws them away.

Kane
04-26-2006, 02:34 PM
SR fans might get upset but get over it because Routh is Superman nothing will change that. The problem comes with the die-hard SV fans. Other then that most SR fans wouldn't care really. Sure you might say I wis they didn't do that but other then that they wouldn't care.

Honestly, from what Ive seen...I dont think the SR fans are like that. Maybe its because Routh has never been put into a major role outside Superman yet. I wouldnt have any problem with it and Im supposedly one of them....so yea.

As far as Hackman goes, thatd be amazing but a very very very unrealistic prospect. I really dont see him giving it much consideration....I mean theyre having enough trouble getting Terrence Stamp to appear onscreen as Jorel....and hes more or less a B-lister.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 02:39 PM
Honestly, from what Ive seen...I dont think the SR fans are like that. Maybe its because Routh has never been put into a major role outside Superman yet. I wouldnt have any problem with it and Im supposedly one of them....so yea.

I'm sorry I should say some SR fans might get upset but most of them 98% would not care because as I said at the end of the day which one will we be seeing as Superman in his full glory? I think the problem comes with SV fans.

KalKai
04-26-2006, 02:40 PM
Who says they're having trouble? It's all about his schedule.

Supershizzle
04-26-2006, 02:45 PM
I think SR fans would be pissed too. They hate Smallville too because it's not faithful to the mythology.

Pot meet Kettle..... theyre both based in spirit off a movie who's continuity was wiped off the books 20 years ago, one is just a lot more casual in its references.... Neither of them are that "faithful," if you want to get technical, then again neither are that "unfaithful" either.... It's a thinker....

Kane
04-26-2006, 02:52 PM
But to be fair, we'll see which one did a better, more classier job in the execution when SR comes out.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 02:58 PM
My fear about SR is if it blows SV away the backlash you'll see across most boards. I mean they will never hear the end of it for years to come. You'll see pictures like how BB fans did to Spider-Man. I remember them all too.

Kane
04-26-2006, 03:09 PM
lol don't jinx it :p

Im gonna wait till I see it first and take it from there....

blksuperman2
04-26-2006, 03:10 PM
My fear about SR is if it blows SV away the backlash you'll see across most boards. I mean they will never hear the end of it for years to come. You'll see pictures like how BB fans did to Spider-Man. I remember them all too.

i wasn't in the hype then. What picutres? What happened?

avidreader
04-26-2006, 03:12 PM
... you guys wonder why we get peeved when every thread turns into a discussion about SR. You've taken up nearly two pages on discussing the movie when this is a thread about Season 6 of Smallville.

:rolleyes:

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 03:13 PM
Oh they were just funny manip of stuff. The mods did how ever do a pretty good job cleaning all that stuff up.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 03:14 PM
... you guys wonder why we get peeved when every thread turns into a discussion about SR. You've taken up nearly two pages on discussing the movie when this is a thread about Season 6 of Smallville.

:rolleyes:Well to behonest its all on topic when Kane said he would like to see Routh on the show and we are talking about why that might not work.

avidreader
04-26-2006, 03:16 PM
Well to behonest its all on topic when Kane said he would like to see Routh on the show and we are talking about why that might not work.

Give me a break.

I swear you two are publicity agents for that movie.:rolleyes: :p

AgentPat
04-26-2006, 03:16 PM
... you guys wonder why we get peeved when every thread turns into a discussion about SR. You've taken up nearly two pages on discussing the movie when this is a thread about Season 6 of Smallville.

:rolleyes:Here here!!



YO! Peeps! This is NOT the place to talk about how great the goddamn film will be. Take it to the other forums!! Discuss SMALLVILLE here.

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 03:20 PM
Give me a break.

I swear you two are publicity agents for that movie.:rolleyes: :pLOL

Brainiac 8
04-26-2006, 03:43 PM
Here here!!



YO! Peeps! This is NOT the place to talk about how great the goddamn film will be. Take it to the other forums!! Discuss SMALLVILLE here.

Thank you Pat and Avid.

I keep reading all of this going...WHO CARES....can we get back to the hopes and dreams of season 6 please?

By the way, how 'bout them dodgers?;) :p

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 03:57 PM
This is going to be a very very very very long summer for SV fans.

rnewbz
04-26-2006, 04:00 PM
1. I would like to see Pete Ross return
2.Returning of some of the meteor-freaks
3. Lana's dad Mr. Smalls return
4.Lex kills Lionel in the end
5.Clark develops flight
6. Clark develops frost breath
7.A man named John Corbin begins working for Lex
8. Emil Hamilton(son of deceased Dr. Hamilton) becomes friends with Clark

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 04:02 PM
Thumbs up :up: to the return of Pete and Lana's dad just as well.

blksuperman2
04-26-2006, 04:10 PM
1. I would like to see Pete Ross return
2.Returning of some of the meteor-freaks
3. Lana's dad Mr. Smalls return
4.Lex kills Lionel in the end
5.Clark develops flight
6. Clark develops frost breath
7.A man named John Corbin begins working for Lex
8. Emil Hamilton(son of deceased Dr. Hamilton) becomes friends with Clark

1. Would love that but (Won't Happen:( )
2. More than likely:down
3 He's plain forgotten (Won't Happen)
4. I'd love that (Might Happen:up: )
5. I'd love that (Budget Contraints, Won't happen:down )
6. I'd Love that (Might Happen:up: )
7. Could Happen:up:
8. Emil didn't seem to be the family type. I doubt he was ever with a lady:down

AgentPat
04-26-2006, 04:40 PM
This is going to be a very very very very long summer for SV fans.Since when has that been anything unusual? :p It's ALWAYS a long summer as we wait for the season premiere in September. The worst is usually a few weeks before the ep airs, when images and assorted spoilers start to circulate. Remember these...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival2b.jpg

Ultimate_Superman
04-26-2006, 04:45 PM
I wasn't talking about the show Pat ;)

AgentPat
04-26-2006, 04:54 PM
I wasn't talking about the show Pat ;)What else would make it a long summer then? :p

You want to talk "long" summers, try summer '04. For SV fans, this summer will be bow-rang compared to two years ago. Lets be real here. ;)


5.Clark develops flight...5. I'd love that (Budget Contraints, Won't happen:down )Hee. Well, there's a reason I didn't include flying in my wish list.

























Hint: I didn't have to. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/flirt.gif

Kane
04-26-2006, 04:55 PM
Cause he already flew?

eXperiment
04-26-2006, 09:05 PM
Put it this way. This is what I want to see happen in season 6:

- Clark starts travelling the world, doing journalism classes aboard to write stories on alot of political issues all over the globe.

- When a crisis occurs, Clark saves the day but this time keeps his identity concealed. Works in secret.

- People believe theres an invisible mysterious guardian angel in the world and the media dubs him 'Superman'.... this way Clark can have the title 'Superman' associated with him without wearing the suit yet.

- Just as Clark is growing closer to 'Jor-El', Jor-El turns out to be Eradicator.

- Detective John Jones appears in Smallville to investigate why all the top secret Krypto-freaks of the week are dying off. Their mutated condition wont allow them to survive for too long.

- Lex and Lana both uncover the truth about Clark finally but of course Lex's mind gets messed up when he becomes the vessel of Zod and Lionel becomes the vessel of Jorel.

- Pete Ross returns. Cmon G+M, all poor Sam Jones III wanted was more focus. He works for Lex but also is an inside spy for Clark and Chloe. As he grows closer to Lana to learn more about what her and Lex were doing, he slowly develops an attraction to Lana. Could he sway Lana out of Lex's corrupt grip?

- Lori Lemaris appears as Clark's new love interest and her backstory has ties with Altantis and Mercy Reef also, as a cross promotion for both shows. This relationship works alot better when Clark releases shes not human either, but not a psychopath like Alicia.

- Something happens between Lionel and Martha which puts Clark and Lex in a very difficult position.

- Brandon Routh appears as the wayward son of Dr Virgil Swann who reluctancly gives Clark secret information about Krypton that his late father had concealed from Clark. The agency that knows Clark's secret will be dealt with.

- Chloe quits Journalism deciding she can make a bigger impact as a TV news reporter in Metropolis than working at the bottom of the Daily Planet.

I really wish I was a teleplay writer for Smallville. Cause I would use all these ideas in them. Great job.

rnewbz
04-26-2006, 09:32 PM
I also think there will be a storyline involving Lex's half-brother Lucas. In a recent article in smallville magazine he said that there were plans to have him in a storyline this season, but he was busy with a pilot. He said SM has a couple more seasons so he should be on.

Supershizzle
04-27-2006, 12:05 AM
This is going to be a very very very very long summer for SV fans.

Why do Tony Montana and Kane even post in this forum? :confused: You'd think they would take their Superman Returns circle jerk over to, geez I dont know, the SUPERMAN RETURNS forum?

They hang out here with the sole purpose of taunting the people in this forum, it's pathetic. Every freaking post of there's is either how SMallville is doing something wrong, or how Superman Returns is going to "blow it out of the water". Why waste your time here then? I dont get it? :confused: Are those forums that boring compared to here?

I despise the look of Brandon Routh, and thought WB dropped the ball by not using a more mature actor like Caviezel to fit that storylne of their's, yet I dont hang out in the SR forums here and taunt the users and needle them with barbs about each and everything that comes along about the film.

Seriously, get a ****ing life.

Kane
04-27-2006, 12:25 AM
Wow. Dont be such a p^ssy.


Im a member of both forums and I wasnt taunting anyone here....well until this post. I dont have a preference between Smallville and the film yet, given the film isnt even out.

So you've really got no reason to start crying and being emotional over anything I said. The fact that you are being this way makes me question who the person is that truly needs a "****ing life."


But anyways, heres a tissue to wipe away your tears..

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 05:02 AM
Pot meet Kettle..... theyre both based in spirit off a movie who's continuity was wiped off the books 20 years ago, one is just a lot more casual in its references.... Neither of them are that "faithful," if you want to get technical, then again neither are that "unfaithful" either.... It's a thinker....

Yeah but those Superman fans are more fundamental and are gonan choose what's more closley faithful. Obviously all adaptations arent 100% (Duh) but people tend to gravitate to whatever's closest. Obviously....

muscaremy
04-27-2006, 05:33 AM
for season 6 i got two words...........HAL JORDAN

Milkman95
04-27-2006, 07:47 AM
Season 6:

-Focusing more his journey
-More Jor-El
-Less "Freak of the weeks"
-Hal Jordan cameo would be nice, or any DC character for that matter.
-BETTER writing. It's been pathetic in spots this season.
-Further expand on Lex turning evil.
-Have him further discover his different powers.
-Less "filler" episodes, meaning no ridiculous Christmas, Valentine's Day, or Halloween specials about chicks turning into vampires or teenagers drinking horny gatorade...........

NHawk19
04-27-2006, 07:55 AM
Ok here's what I'd like to see (not that I'll get it)

1. Clark goes to college and I mean goes not stays and commutes he really just needs to go and learn something about something. Then move beyond his current view that the root of all evil is Luthor Corp.

Maybe work on some stories for his Journalism class that revolve around people who want the "right" thing while combating other groups not involved in wanting change. (i.e. Clark interviews people working to save a man on death row that was wrongfully imprisoned and deals with the ramifications of those who strongly believe he was rightfully convicted and want to harm those working towards his release)

2. Lois needs to start down a path that seemingly leads to her at the Planet.

3. Lex should just continue his journey, the whole while believing that he is saving the world from harm, yet causing more harm that good.

4. Chloe & Lana - they need less involvement. Maybe just have Clark go to them for aid or to talk when things go beyond his control. But they need to drop the omnipotence of Chloe, and it's time Lana found out for real this time.

5. Guest Heros . . . Alan Scot in costume. Jay Garrick. Maybe some other Golden Age Heros (Please quit making up new ones when there are so many to choose from :( ) Perhaps Diana. At the very least a few more references.

6. Flight dammit :mad: Superbreath

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 08:45 AM
Sounds to me like you guys are focusing on Superman Season 1 and not Smallville season 6 *walks away and whistles for a bit*

Serene
04-27-2006, 09:26 AM
3. Lex should just continue his journey, the whole while believing that he is saving the world from harm, yet causing more harm that good.

I like that one a lot. It's in-keeping with the Lex characterization we've had so far on the show.

4. Chloe & Lana - they need less involvement. Maybe just have Clark go to them for aid or to talk when things go beyond his control. But they need to drop the omnipotence of Chloe, and it's time Lana found out for real this time.
Well, I only partly agree with this one. ;) But the "omnipotence of Chloe" part is hysterical and very well put. :D

6. Flight dammit :mad: Superbreath

HELL, yeah! :up:

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 09:31 AM
Well, I only partly agree with this one. ;) But the "omnipotence of Chloe" part is hysterical and very well put. :D


I like the Omnipotence of Chloe.:( :)

Kane
04-27-2006, 09:34 AM
5. Guest Heros . . . Alan Scot in costume. Jay Garrick. Maybe some other Golden Age Heros (Please quit making up new ones when there are so many to choose from :( ) Perhaps Diana. At the very least a few more references.


I dont think they want to show DC heroes in costume for some reason. I think the reason that use so many FoTW is that DC ultimately decides which character properties they are allowed to use. I think if they could have used all those random dc characters, they would have.

Personally, I'll settle for John Jones. Diana obviously wont happen given the movie.

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 09:41 AM
Although the initial part of bringing DC cameos was cool, I dunno if I want to see anymore DC Heroes. I mean they really are scrapping for some of them (That's Aquaman? AC? Cyborg?). Only dude I'd hold out to see is Oliver Queen but that's about it.

Kane
04-27-2006, 09:51 AM
Ya Cyborg was a bit random. If your right and this is the last season, they should focus on the existing characters and avoid all the ratings gimmicks.

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 09:57 AM
The cameo episodes most of the time end up being some of the better written. Cyborg was a strange cameo, but you can't deny it was a top notch episode. I even really liked Aquaman.

Plus "Run" was one of the really high points to season 4. I think they had to use Cyborg just because so many of the main stream characters are tied up in movie deals. I hope we see a couple of more characters show up before the show ends. My two picks are Oliver Queen and Hal Jordan.:up: :)

NHawk19
04-27-2006, 10:37 AM
I dont think they want to show DC heroes in costume for some reason. I think the reason that use so many FoTW is that DC ultimately decides which character properties they are allowed to use. I think if they could have used all those random dc characters, they would have.

Personally, I'll settle for John Jones. Diana obviously wont happen given the movie.

I know but that whole Avenging Angel thing really pissed me off.

Supershizzle
04-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Wow. Dont be such a p^ssy.


Im a member of both forums and I wasnt taunting anyone here....well until this post. I dont have a preference between Smallville and the film yet, given the film isnt even out.

So you've really got no reason to start crying and being emotional over anything I said. The fact that you are being this way makes me question who the person is that truly needs a "****ing life."


But anyways, heres a tissue to wipe away your tears..


well if that's not the biggest lump of bull**** I've ever read, I dont know what is. The fact that you need to refer to me as a "p^ssy" obviously shows I struck a nerve.
You must be also be some kind of medium to be able to detect a person's emotion through their typed sentences. Got any tips on the Powerball drawing tonight?

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 11:03 AM
*Snore*:rolleyes:

AgentPat
04-27-2006, 11:19 AM
*Snore* :rolleyes:Oh shush, B8. :p



Butter and salt?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

Kane
04-27-2006, 11:51 AM
well if that's not the biggest lump of bull**** I've ever read, I dont know what is. The fact that you need to refer to me as a "p^ssy" obviously shows I struck a nerve.
You must be also be some kind of medium to be able to detect a person's emotion through their typed sentences. Got any tips on the Powerball drawing tonight?


hey, I didnt even say anything before and you accused me of taunting other members here and causing trouble. :rolleyes: If you want to talk bull**** like that about me without anything to back it up, obviously it will strike a nerve.....I have a low tolerance for people who say stuff as fact that isnt even remotely true.

Thats just how it is....


You were the one whining and complaining in your original post, so thats why you came off as a major pussy.


ps. If you dont think I like the show, read the review I wrote for the epsiode that aired last thursday in the thread for it.

I keep it real, I'm unbiased towards any side....at this point.

green
04-27-2006, 11:51 AM
Got any tips on the Powerball drawing tonight?

4 8 15 16 23 42 ;)

Milkman95
04-27-2006, 11:54 AM
^Nice........

Kane
04-27-2006, 11:55 AM
The cameo episodes most of the time end up being some of the better written. Cyborg was a strange cameo, but you can't deny it was a top notch episode. I even really liked Aquaman.


Cyborg was good because the actor could actually act, better than alot of the principal castmembers he interacted with, which was kinda funny.

The guy who played AC, on the other hand, couldnt.

Maybe the Cyborg guy should have played John Stewart instead?

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 12:14 PM
Oh shush, B8. :p



Butter and salt?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

Please. Much abliged.:up: :D

Oh...and Pat...for the record...*Snore*:rolleyes:
You know you thought the same thing...I just beat you to it.;)

Supershizzle
04-27-2006, 12:34 PM
hey, I didnt even say anything before and you accused me of taunting other members here and causing trouble. :rolleyes: If you want to talk bull**** like that about me without anything to back it up, obviously it will strike a nerve.....I have a low tolerance for people who say stuff as fact that isnt even remotely true.

Thats just how it is....


You were the one whining and complaining in your original post, so thats why you came off as a major pussy.


ps. If you dont think I like the show, read the review I wrote for the epsiode that aired last thursday in the thread for it.

I keep it real, I'm unbiased towards any side....at this point.

I could care less whether you like the show or not. You're entitled to your opinion, frankly I think Smallville is either really good or really lame depending on the epsidoe, but that's not the point. Why constantly chide people about it like it's some retarded sports fan debate? And perhaps you dont do it as much as TM, but I've lurked here long enough to make an informed opinion on the situation. As much as you scream that youre innocent, I've seen it, and I'm sure no fewer than a dozen people here would corroborate that.

NHawk19
04-27-2006, 01:21 PM
4 8 15 16 23 42 ;)

I bet you'd pass out if that came true tonight.

Jlandsw
04-27-2006, 01:38 PM
Com' on guys lets stay on topic. I'm so siked for season 6!!!!!!!!!! Only 4-5 more months lol!!

Kane
04-27-2006, 01:49 PM
I could care less whether you like the show or not. You're entitled to your opinion, frankly I think Smallville is either really good or really lame depending on the epsidoe, but that's not the point. Why constantly chide people about it like it's some retarded sports fan debate? And perhaps you dont do it as much as TM, but I've lurked here long enough to make an informed opinion on the situation. As much as you scream that youre innocent, I've seen it, and I'm sure no fewer than a dozen people here would corroborate that.

:rolleyes: right....


Okay lets get this straight, for the very last time. I dont give a damn who watches Smallville or Superman Returns, the entire fanbase on a whole has alot of losers and lowlifes on both sides that I wouldnt give a damn about. Notice the 'GAM' in my signature has been long removed along with 'Brandon Routh is Superman'; I dont care about that stuff. I really have no intention of trying to convince one side to have an interest in the other and vice versa.

I watch the show and judge the episodes for what they are. I really have no opinion on Returns until I see it. Yes, theres a chance it could be good but theres also a much greater chance it could flatout suck!

Until then, we'll see... but I watch whatever I want and post wherever the hell I want...for no one else but myself. Youre just going to have to deal with that.

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 01:55 PM
You know, I hear Vancouver is really nice this time of year.;) :D

KalKai
04-27-2006, 02:03 PM
Stealing avatars again Kane? lol.

Kane/Crisis has gotten better, much better than before at least, Tony is the annoying 1.

triplet
04-27-2006, 02:11 PM
4 8 15 16 23 42 ;)

LOL!

green, you totally crack me up... :D ;)

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 02:16 PM
You know, I hear Vancouver is really nice this time of year.;) :D

For real, I'm still trying to get out there to stalk teh Kreuk:o

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 02:17 PM
Com' on guys lets stay on topic. I'm so siked for season 6!!!!!!!!!! Only 4-5 more months lol!!

these fights>>>> the entire show

JAX
04-27-2006, 02:22 PM
With all the rumors of Super Lex, and "Lion-El", I don't believe we will see a physical presence of Zod until the season 6 opener.

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 02:23 PM
If that

Jlandsw
04-27-2006, 02:37 PM
With all the rumors of Super Lex, and "Lion-El", I don't believe we will see a physical presence of Zod until the season 6 opener.

Maybe....it could be part of the cliffhanger tho.

Kane
04-27-2006, 02:42 PM
Stealing avatars again Kane? lol.

Kane/Crisis has gotten better, much better than before at least

Err ya I cant deal with the Superman boards right now, theyre getting really annoying. I'd rather post here.


The avatar? Well its just for today. It seems to be the only animated avatar that works for me.

JAX
04-27-2006, 02:46 PM
Maybe....it could be part of the cliffhanger tho.

Yup, maybe before we see him, the epy ends. I'm sure if someone was cast for Zod we would have heard about it.

JAX
04-27-2006, 02:47 PM
It seems to be the only animated avatar that works for me.

At least you have one...I need 39 more posts :(

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 02:48 PM
Err ya I cant deal with the Superman boards right now, theyre getting really annoying. I'd rather post here.


The avatar? Well its just for today. It seems to be the only animated avatar that works for me.

They hate you at the SR forums now?

Jlandsw
04-27-2006, 02:59 PM
I really can't stand the way they pick on SV in the SR forums. I find it annoying myself.

Jlandsw
04-27-2006, 03:00 PM
Yup, maybe before we see him, the epy ends. I'm sure if someone was cast for Zod we would have heard about it.

Wouldn't it be cool if the episode ended with Zod coming out of the Phantom Zone and telling Clark "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD".....then 'to be continued'. Wow I just gave myself the chills lol.

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 03:06 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if the episode ended with Zod coming out of the Phantom Zone and telling Clark "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD".....then 'to be continued'. Wow I just gave myself the chills lol.

Ok, that would rock.

I really wish Terrence Stamp could play Zod.:(

Kane
04-27-2006, 03:07 PM
They hate you at the SR forums now?

no.

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 03:09 PM
I really can't stand the way they pick on SV in the SR forums. I find it annoying myself.

It's been going on for years though. **** what they think, they gotta deal with there own problems. And I support Routh/SR but I dont have no stupid bias one sided internet fanboy agenda.

Kane
04-27-2006, 03:10 PM
I really can't stand the way they pick on SV in the SR forums. I find it annoying myself.

Thats not the reason.

Its just any kind of praise they throw towards the movie at this point is totally unjustified.

You cant judge a book by its cover and thus I cant judge this thing till I see it.... so until then, any opinions in the SR forum are really moot.

So thats the reason I got tired of it.

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 03:12 PM
I just laugh when they think Superman Returns will make more money than Batman Begins because its a more "light" film and "everyone loves Superman" (yes those are actual quotes).
They gotta come up with better reasons than that. I'm not saying SR Wont outdo BB at the Box Office but it wont be just because of that.

Jlandsw
04-27-2006, 03:30 PM
Thats not the reason.

Its just any kind of praise they throw towards the movie at this point is totally unjustified.

You cant judge a book by its cover and thus I cant judge this thing till I see it.... so until then, any opinions in the SR forum are really moot.

So thats the reason I got tired of it.

Thats true too and thats another reason why I don't like it. They think its gunna be the greatest movie ever lol. On the other hand, ya gotta admire the optimism.

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 03:32 PM
**** them and there optimism :) and while I'm at it let me send a **** you shoutout to K-Site too.

triplet
04-27-2006, 03:34 PM
I just laugh when they think Superman Returns will make more money than Batman Begins because its a more "light" film and "everyone loves Superman" (yes those are actual quotes).
They gotta come up with better reasons than that. I'm not saying SR Wont outdo BB at the Box Office but it wont be just because of that.

It's silly at this point to try and judge the box office potential of any film in any genre.

The box office has been very erratic lately and I don't think anyone can forcast the take accurately.

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 03:34 PM
**** them and there optimism :) and while I'm at it let me send a **** you shoutout to K-Site too.


Now that's funny.:D

eXperiment
04-27-2006, 03:42 PM
Ok, that would rock.

I really wish Terrence Stamp could play Zod.:(

Who is that? :confused:

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 03:44 PM
Who is that? :confused:


He played General Zod in Superman 2, and he plays Jor-El's voice in Smallville.

Brainiac 8
04-27-2006, 03:46 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Generalzod.jpg/175px-Generalzod.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Generalzod.jpg)

Here's him as General Zod.

Jlandsw
04-27-2006, 04:59 PM
I'd rather terrence stamp play Jor-El. Because hes already doing his voice on the show and terrance looks more like Marlon Brando's Jor-El. See:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38546000/jpg/_38546157_stamp150.jpg

Serene
04-27-2006, 05:53 PM
Damn.. did I miss the popcorn?

I miss all the fun stuff since I have little to know 'puter access at work.

Where are you guys when I'm on late at night?

Oh yeah.. sleeping. What's that again? ;)

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 05:54 PM
So your the one lurking at night on the net

Serene
04-27-2006, 06:00 PM
So your the one lurking at night on the net
Yeah.. that's me. Creepy, ain't it?

:p

TwilightPro101
04-27-2006, 06:00 PM
**** them and there optimism :) and while I'm at it let me send a **** you shoutout to K-Site too.

I'm all for the Ksite slam. But I just think SV needs some serious space for improvement. With 5 years under its belt it seems like they would have moved on and been at least a little more respectful to the character than they are.

I could less about the box office for SR. I just want to see a more true to form Superman. Something SV is really missing hence why I consider this show to be nothing more than Elseworlds, but I strictly tune in for Erica Durance these days and that's about it.

Either way, they can both co-exist. :D

Super_Ludacris
04-27-2006, 06:29 PM
Yeah.. that's me. Creepy, ain't it?

:p

I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you:o

AgentPat
05-10-2006, 09:05 PM
Hey, so what do folks think the title of the first ep of S6 will be?

I'm gonna say....


"Awakening." :D

TKodami
05-10-2006, 09:45 PM
Mr. DeKnight dashed my hopes of a really huge ensemble blow-out for Season Six (if it ended up being the last season). I'd love to see the whole gang at a charity event or kidnapped together, etc. Oh well. :(

Tornado
05-10-2006, 10:36 PM
Hey, so what do folks think the title of the first ep of S6 will be?

I'm gonna say....


"Awakening." :D

Well, since I've thought for a while now that Clark will end out the season stuck in the Phantom Zone, I'd have to go with "Phantom." Although, "Awakening" is good too.

avidreader
05-11-2006, 10:06 AM
Hey, so what do folks think the title of the first ep of S6 will be?

I'm gonna say....


"Awakening." :D

"KNEEL" :)

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 10:12 AM
I just laugh when they think Superman Returns will make more money than Batman Begins because its a more "light" film and "everyone loves Superman" (yes those are actual quotes).
They gotta come up with better reasons than that. I'm not saying SR Wont outdo BB at the Box Office but it wont be just because of that.

Well, if SR is a good film, it should out gross BB, since Supes really is the more well known character. Should be interesting. I don't care what it makes, I just want it to be good.

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 10:14 AM
Thats true too and thats another reason why I don't like it. They think its gunna be the greatest movie ever lol. On the other hand, ya gotta admire the optimism.

Well, in all fairness, go to ANY forum and the fans of that certain property share the same optimism - why single out only SR?

The Incredible Hulk
05-11-2006, 10:29 AM
LOL you guys think that's bad, you should have been in the SHH forums in 2002 when Spider-man and Star Wars came out. This place went to war against theforce.net. There was geek carnage everywhere.... :)

Super_Ludacris
05-11-2006, 10:37 AM
I remember there was a little spat going on 2002 when WB launched the propsed Superman vs. Batman movie and the DC and Marvel fans were going at it

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 11:05 AM
I remember there was a little spat going on 2002 when WB launched the propsed Superman vs. Batman movie and the DC and Marvel fans were going at it

I remember that...........but then again, the Marvel and DC fans are always going at it. Last year it was FF vs. BB, now it's X3 vs. SR.......

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd like to see that Batman/Superman film someday.........

user123456789
05-11-2006, 11:09 AM
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd like to see that Batman/Superman film someday.........

Same, directed by Nolan.

TKodami
05-11-2006, 11:15 AM
I remember that...........but then again, the Marvel and DC fans are always going at it. Last year it was FF vs. BB, now it's X3 vs. SR.......

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd like to see that Batman/Superman film someday.........

I'd absolutely love to see a Batman/Superman project. :up:

Brainiac 8
05-11-2006, 11:17 AM
I remember that...........but then again, the Marvel and DC fans are always going at it. Last year it was FF vs. BB, now it's X3 vs. SR.......

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd like to see that Batman/Superman film someday.........


I'm with you there. Superman/Batman, directed by Nolan would just rock.:up:

Personally, I don't care I'm going to see both movies. I enjoyed FF and BB so it'll probably be no different this year.

Kal-El 8
05-11-2006, 11:39 AM
Batman/Superman film someday.........

Me too. The animated movie was great, but I would love to see live action movie .

AgentPat
05-11-2006, 11:45 AM
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd like to see that Batman/Superman film someday.........Well, for what it's worth, count me in on that too.

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 11:49 AM
I'm with you there. Superman/Batman, directed by Nolan would just rock.:up:

Personally, I don't care I'm going to see both movies. I enjoyed FF and BB so it'll probably be no different this year.

Me too - I really don't have a preference one way or the other (unless it's Batman) - I'll be seeing X3 and SR on opening day..........

I especially like the Spider-man flicks, since I was in the first film as an extra.............:)

Brainiac 8
05-11-2006, 12:12 PM
Me too - I really don't have a preference one way or the other (unless it's Batman) - I'll be seeing X3 and SR on opening day..........

I especially like the Spider-man flicks, since I was in the first film as an extra.............:)

Which part, I'm going to have to look for you now.

Which scene? Where were you standing/doing?

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 12:15 PM
Which part, I'm going to have to look for you now.

Which scene? Where were you standing/doing?

World Unity Festival scene when GG crashes the party - when everybody is running around in the background when GG drops on that tent and catches Spider-man's fist...........

The Incredible Hulk
05-11-2006, 12:17 PM
LOL I'll have to look for that, now that I've seen your pic in the Photo Thread.

I was actually an extra in "The Sixth Sense." I was standing in line at the football game at Franklin Field.

Brainiac 8
05-11-2006, 12:22 PM
World Unity Festival scene when GG crashes the party - when everybody is running around in the background when GG drops on that tent and catches Spider-man's fist...........

I'll have to watch for you now.

And I have to watch sixth sense to find you too Hulk. That is very cool for the both of you.:up:

AgentPat
05-11-2006, 12:32 PM
I was actually an extra in "The Sixth Sense."Y'know, I forgot about that. Hey, did you have a wedding or a funeral to thank for that bit of casting serendipity? ;)

Yippy-Kai-Aye! :D

The Incredible Hulk
05-11-2006, 12:47 PM
LOL sort of. I have a friend thats a casting agent here in Phila. He talked to some people who had someone vouch fro me, and they got me in.

user123456789
05-11-2006, 01:10 PM
I'll be an extra in SR....


look for me in a boyscout uniform

Super_Ludacris
05-11-2006, 02:40 PM
I remember that...........but then again, the Marvel and DC fans are always going at it. Last year it was FF vs. BB, now it's X3 vs. SR.......

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd like to see that Batman/Superman film someday.........



I was all ready for the Peterson/Walker proposed movie back in 02 for Summer 2004. I was like why not? Sure it would make logical sense to restart both franchises on there own but I wanted them to go with it. Even with the proposed idea of Colin Farell/Jude Law in the lead roles.

Kane
05-11-2006, 02:49 PM
If they ever do a Batman/Superman movie, I hope its a totally new script. The Batman VS Superman one kinda sucked. Brandon Routh wasnt too happy with it either 'Superman and Batman shouldnt be fighting each other for the film' but he seems open to doing it in the realm of possibilities if the script is tight.

I dont think Nolan should direct it though (hes already doing overkill with all the Batman films). Peterson wouldnt be bad...just not that script.

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 03:03 PM
I actually thought AKW's script was a good starting point - it just needed some tweaks. I like the thought of a film exploring their different personalities and methods towards fighting crime. It would make for an interesting study.........

You actually have to put the first Spider-man film in slow-motion to even catch a glimpse of me - I did get hit with water when Spider-man hit that tower of champagne glasses though. I also got to help out the stuntman a little bit on set as well. Pretty cool stuff............

Serene
05-11-2006, 05:39 PM
LOL you guys think that's bad, you should have been in the SHH forums in 2002 when Spider-man and Star Wars came out. This place went to war against theforce.net. There was geek carnage everywhere.... :)

I can just picture it.. A battlefield strewn with broken glasses and torn pocket protecters... blood splattered comic book pages fluttering in the breeze..

Oh.. and add me to the list that would love to see a Supes/Batman movie. Depending on who plays Supes, of course. :D

Kane
05-11-2006, 05:48 PM
It would obviously have to be Brandon Routh and Christian Bale. They wouldnt recast the roles and create more confusion obviously.

TKodami
05-11-2006, 05:52 PM
It would obviously have to be Brandon Routh and Christian Bale. They wouldnt recast the roles and create more confusion obviously.

Well, who knows how far down the line a Bats/Supes movie might be? If the project happens in something like ten years, I'm sure that recasting will happen, and it probably won't cause too much confusion.


And yes, at night, I do dream that the WB movie division releases Batman to be used in an epic three-part Smallville event. Ah well.

Kane
05-11-2006, 05:54 PM
Well the funny thing about Christian, Brandon, Kate etc being so relatively young is I could still see them being able to pull off the roles in 10 years from now.

I'd say they should do about 2 or 3 movies in each individual franchaise (Superman and Batman) before topping it off with a World's Finest film. There certainly is a demand for it. The Superman film isnt even out and Singer and Brandon have been tossed alot of questions about a possible teamup....though theyve strategically sidetracked all of them.

TKodami
05-11-2006, 05:55 PM
Well the funny thing about Christian, Brandon, Kate etc being so relatively young is I could still see them being able to pull off the roles in 10 years from now.

Very true...question is: would they want to? Ten years is a mighty long time (well, to me at least).

Kane
05-11-2006, 05:59 PM
lol I heard Christian Bale make some statement back in 2005 that he would even do something like 6 movies if Nolan was onboard and the script was tight, hes pretty insane.

Hugh Jackman is also planning to do a Wolverine movie after X3. Thats 4 movies of him playing the Logan character....so this kinda thing certainly isnt impossible or unheard of.

TKodami
05-11-2006, 06:03 PM
lol I heard Christian Bale make some statement back in 2005 that he would even do something like 6 movies if Nolan was onboard and the script was tight, hes pretty insane.

Hugh Jackman is also planning to do a Wolverine movie after X3. Thats 4 movies of him playing the Logan character....so this kinda thing certainly isnt impossible or unheard of.

That's plain nutty! :eek:


Seeing that he is so nutty, I wonder if Warners would mind loaning him out? Maybe just for a cameo? In the very last episode? Pretty, pretty please? :O

Kane
05-11-2006, 06:06 PM
lol I dont know if he was serious or joking to get the point across that get do whatever as long as the script is hot and the integrity of the first film is maintained.

WB doesnt want Batman on Smallville for other reasons. Its too much of a conflict, especially if they use Christian Bale.

Nolan stated Begins was a modern day piece in the present, Batman Began in summer 2005.......in summer 2005, SV's Clark just graduated high school.

The universes dont match up..

TKodami
05-11-2006, 06:08 PM
lol I dont know if he was serious or joking to get the point across that get do whatever as long as the script is hot and the integrity of the first film is maintained.

WB doesnt want Batman on Smallville for other reasons. Its too much of a conflict, especially if they use Christian Bale.

Nolan stated Begins was a modern day piece in the present, Batman Began in summer 2005.......in summer 2005, SV's Clark just graduated high school.

The universes dont match up..


...http://www.icine.org/lostforums/images/smiles/blue.gif

Ah crap, I guess Smallville used up their one time-travel crystal in Reckoning, too. Confoundit! This show needs more time travel.

Milkman95
05-11-2006, 06:12 PM
Yeah, the Batman/Superman film more than likely would be Routh and Bale right now. It could also be a stand-alone film 10 years from now in a different universe with it being re-cast. Welling near 40 as Superman could be outstanding. I actually wanted Patrick Warburton to play a Kingdom Come type Supes back when this Wolfgang Petersen production was announced.

In my opinion, the best way for that film to work is have it later in both their careers, even at the end of Batman's, where he's burnt out and sick of the criminal element. AKW touched on that, but I didn't like other aspects of that script. Once Goldsman got his hands on it, it was ruined anway...........

TKodami
05-11-2006, 06:16 PM
Yeah, the Batman/Superman film more than likely would be Routh and Bale right now. It could also be a stand-alone film 10 years from now in a different universe with it being re-cast. Welling near 40 as Superman could be outstanding. I actually wanted Patrick Warburton to play a Kingdom Come type Supes back when this Wolfgang Petersen production was announced.

In my opinion, the best way for that film to work is have it later in both their careers, even at the end of Batman's, where he's burnt out and sick of the criminal element. AKW touched on that, but I didn't like other aspects of that script. Once Goldsman got his hands on it, it was ruined anway...........

I like your suggestions. Welling would definitely make a great Kingdom Come Supes in ten, fifteen years. :up:

Kane
05-11-2006, 06:17 PM
They wouldnt put it in a standalone universe and use the same actors (Routh and Bale), it would be too confusing.

It will likely be the same universe. The artistic interpretation of the film will likely be a mix of SR and Batman Begins. Gotham is a city in poverty and corruption, thus the ghetto, realistic look of Begins suited it.

Metropolis is a city of power and affluence, thus the upper echlon classic look with modern technology suits it as well. In Bruce's parties and in the flashbacks with his parents, their clothes and look (of an affluent style) resembled the kind of clothes and styles in SR.

There is enough connections there, just needs a new director's unique vision to connect them.

Theres also the fact that Batman first appeared in 2005, which was some years after Superman left the earth. It makes sense that the world had turned to darkness and needed a hero like Batman to step up. Works perfectly.

And now with the emergence of Batman and the return of Superman, more superheroes can step up as well...

Jlandsw
05-11-2006, 10:46 PM
Well, after seeing the finale, I guess we can add 'Seeing the Phantom Zone' to the list of things to look forward to next year!!!!

thecrasher06
05-12-2006, 01:49 PM
who will save clark
mabe Lionel Luthor since he has jor-el's sprit in him jor-el will channel through lionel and go to the Fortress of Solitude an save clark but for a price he has to become kal-el once again

the superman suit
If clark has to become kal-el he might bare the dark superman suit



what do u guys think will happen

Kaboom
05-12-2006, 01:51 PM
i think this thread should be closed. we have a season six speculation thread already. and you didnt even need to do a search, its on the first page.

welcome to the hype.

NHawk19
05-12-2006, 01:53 PM
dammit you beat me too it.

Kaboom
05-12-2006, 01:54 PM
im quick...like a jack rabbit. where a morg when you need one. ;)

Strgts
05-12-2006, 02:00 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228947

Kane
05-12-2006, 02:22 PM
I wonder if this guy is the same guy who started the previous thread...hmm

Morg
05-12-2006, 02:33 PM
im quick...like a jack rabbit. where a morg when you need one. ;)


You rang? :p

Ultimate_Superman
05-12-2006, 02:43 PM
I like your suggestions. Welling would definitely make a great Kingdom Come Supes in ten, fifteen years. :up:Welling wouldn't be great as Kingdome Come Superman IMO because KC Superman was mostly full of anger and distrust and as well as alot of other things. Which I think is out of Welling's acting range and there is no Clark either in KC. So I think you would need a well rounded actor to play KC Superman.

Kane
05-12-2006, 02:53 PM
Who cares? Theyd never make a Kingdom Come movie anyways..

It would be pointless.

Ultimate_Superman
05-12-2006, 03:05 PM
Not really but they would need a JLA movie before KC

Kane
05-12-2006, 03:07 PM
KC is Elseworlds though. It isnt the real future of JLA......thats why its pointless.

Kal-El 8
05-13-2006, 01:23 AM
-The two Kryptonian baddies last seen in "Arrival" won't be back this year, but they may return in Season 6.

I hope Nam-Ek & Aethyr return.

- It is rumored that James Marsters may appear in Smallville's Season 6 premiere.

Brainiac needs to stick around for at least 2 or more episodes .

- It sounds like all of Smallville's seven lead characters will survive into the next season.

Of course they will . that's a no brainer .

- Will Lex keep his powers? Guess we'll have to wait and see...

I doubt it .

Strgts
05-13-2006, 01:24 AM
I know I posted this in the Two Phantom Zone threads but I think this would be AWESOME if it happens. Aren't there Rumors that Lara is supposed to be seen early Season 6 ? Why not while Clark is in The Phantom Clark can see & find out first hand how Zod & Braniac betrayed Clarks Biological Parents & Destroyed his Home Planet & here is a little twist. Clark is able to INTERACT with the People of Krypton while in The Phantom Zone so he warns his Father & Larua about what Zod is planning & this is how they find out in advanced about what is going to happen (Smallville Universe stuff) but it is to late no matter what & in the Smallville Universe this is how Clarks Parents know to send him away to Earth. Clark HIMSELF tells them & warns them & he can see for himself how his real Father & Mother really is & Clark witnesses the death of his Parents & home Planet & he can not do anything about it. Obviously Clark will be safe no matter what since hes not REALLY THERE & all but this would be AWESOME if you ask me.

\S/JcDc\S/
05-13-2006, 01:27 AM
Strgts I think you are adding a little too much to my idea, lol.

Strgts
05-13-2006, 01:28 AM
Strgts I think you are adding a little too much to my idea, lol.

Hey why just have Clark "see things" when he can meet both Mother & Father. Spice it up a little man

JackMercy
05-13-2006, 03:18 AM
Once the other guy blows over you might see a little more freedom in the ranks of horses... or rather, crystals...

...And I wouldn't be at all surprised if the water boy makes a comeback -- the new neighborhood doesn't seem too keen on him...but we all know who is..
(plus he's still one of the highest raters)


Just remember, it's entertainment -- anything can change on a whim...
(yeah, I'm still working on that conundrum...)


Sometimes even the milkman drops the bottles...

;)

Strgts
05-13-2006, 03:48 AM
Once the other guy blows over you might see a little more freedom

The question is will this Show be around long enough for when the new Franchise is actually over :o

Kane
05-13-2006, 03:51 AM
lol Hell no.

Unless Rosenbaum decides to wear hats.....he wants his hair back.

MJZ
05-13-2006, 05:31 AM
You're all assuming there will even be a "new franchise."

As for Smallville, they said 7 seasons will wrap it up.

AgentPat
05-13-2006, 10:41 AM
Once the other guy blows over you might see a little more freedom in the ranks of horses... or rather, crystals...Jack, honest to goodness, this summer can't go by fast enough for me.

...And I wouldn't be at all surprised if the water boy makes a comeback -- the new neighborhood doesn't seem too keen on him...but we all know who is.. I've been reading about that. Lots of speculation from various people, but it's not looking good, is it? Unfortunately, SV's version wasn't the best of actors; I'd rather see Cyborg or Flash return, but whatcha gonna do?

(plus he's still one of the highest raters)I still wonder about that. I know a lot of folks tuned in because of the Aquaman angle, but I think the higher numbers *may* have also been a result of Buffy/Spike fans tuning in to see Marsters. That and, those trailers with Lois in a bikini might have helped a bit too LOL.

Just remember, it's entertainment -- anything can change on a whim...
(yeah, I'm still working on that conundrum...)

Sometimes even the milkman drops the bottles...No doubt. I still remind myself of my hit-by-a-bus metaphors to this day. Nothing is ever set in stone in this business, unfortunately. Don't believe anything until *after* you leave the theater.

MarvelMovies
05-13-2006, 11:26 AM
-Seeing the Phantom Zone
-The return of Aethyr and Nam-Ek from S5 premiere (confirmed by Al and Miles)


This could very well take place, seeing as how Aethyr and Nam-Ek are trapped in the Phantom Zone along with Clark.

They could have Clark right where they want him, and he can't go anywhere anytime soon so a peak inside the PZ could happen I'd say.

Kane
05-13-2006, 01:37 PM
I thought a Phantom Zone is like a prison cell, Clarks in a different zone compared to Aethyr and Namek...a different containment card.

MarvelMovies
05-13-2006, 03:06 PM
I thought a Phantom Zone is like a prison cell, Clarks in a different zone compared to Aethyr and Namek...a different containment card.

Makes sense, although would the Phantom Zone be the jail while each "person" is in a different cell in that jail?

If Aethyr and Nam-ek were confirmed to return next season, seems as likely a time to bring them back as any

Supershizzle
05-13-2006, 11:57 PM
Announcement on the renewal for Season 6 will come on Thursday. Along with Gilmore Girls, Everybody Hates Chris, Veronica Mars, Supernatural, and America's Next Top Model. There are a couple others I'm missing. Smallville should retain the Thursday at 8 PM slot followed by Supernatural. EHC will most likely be on Tuesday or Wednesday.

As for the Aquaman show, it's still up in the air. The Pilot is great, but a few influential people really doubt it's potential for longterm success.

triplet
05-14-2006, 12:05 AM
I would love to see Aqua picked up, I'm curious to see it, but I'm ecstatic Supernatural will be renewed!

I do love those Winchester boys and there's no way they can leave them where they were at the end of the finale! Yikes...

:eek:

I think I might actually take out a hit on someone if they'd done that...

;) :D

Serene
05-14-2006, 12:07 AM
Announcement on the renewal for Season 6 will come on Thursday. Along with Gilmore Girls, Everybody Hates Chris, Veronica Mars, Supernatural, and America's Next Top Model. There are a couple others I'm missing. Smallville should retain the Thursday at 8 PM slot followed by Supernatural. EHC will most likely be on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Is that certain? I mean about Veronica Mars? pleasesayyespleasesayyes...

:up: about SV.. but I felt pretty confident that would be renewed.

The Incredible Hulk
05-14-2006, 12:41 PM
The question is will this Show be around long enough for when the new Franchise is actually over :o

he didnt mean the franchise, assuming that there is one, he meant just the film comingo out this summer. After this, that franchise wouldnt be back until 2009. Smallville if it goes the max 7 seasons would end in May 2008

O'Haire
05-14-2006, 07:12 PM
I wonder if Clark will fly. Because if he is released from the Phantom Zone wouldn't he be released in Space? He will probabaly have to fly back to earth.

Probabaly not though. But it would be cool to see.

giggs11uk
05-14-2006, 09:00 PM
I dont think we will see clark flying to save martha and lois.
Instead i think there going to the FOS because there is a part 2 in Braniacs plan

KalElofKrypton
05-14-2006, 09:29 PM
I dont think we will see clark flying to save martha and lois.
Instead i think there going to the FOS because there is a part 2 in Braniacs plan

That's good thinking, I never thought of that. As much as I'd like to see him fly to save the plane, this sounds more realistic as to avoid the "No tights, no flights" deal. Although, how would Lois forget being at the Fortress, if she is concious when she arrives?

Lara
05-15-2006, 12:31 PM
I would love to see Aqua picked up, I'm curious to see it, but I'm ecstatic Supernatural will be renewed!

I do love those Winchester boys and there's no way they can leave them where they were at the end of the finale! Yikes...

:eek:

I think I might actually take out a hit on someone if they'd done that...

;) :D
WOOOHOOOOO!!!!! Just trying to browse and get caught up but this caught my eye :up: I also love Supernatuiral although the last few episodes were a touch melodramatic I still have the finale to see though. Aquaman worries me I was willing to try but it still sounds lame and if it is it could hurt Smallville IMHO by hurting the credibility of AG&MM

Brainiac 8
05-15-2006, 12:41 PM
I want SuperBreath! And according to Mr. DeKnight, I may get my wish.:D

giggs11uk
05-15-2006, 12:43 PM
I dont think Zex is going to take over the world it just dosnt make any sence. Lex is going to be president one day, so i am just wondering who is going to vote for the guy who ruled the world after being possesed. People will be to afraid to vote for him. So what can they do with Zex other then rule the world.

I also dont think Lionel is as good as we think, It was his plane that Martha is on. I think he is the Eradicator or something, trying to help free Zod. Think about it Lex does the opposite of what his father tells him, so Lionel tells Lex not to work with Fine because he knows that lex will just out of spite.

avidreader
05-15-2006, 12:45 PM
I found this on another site DTS.

from the AOL blog.... it says

"In the season of the smallest perfect number, all will be redeemed".

In mathematics, a perfect number is defined as an integer which is the sum of its proper positive divisors, that is, the sum of the positive divisors not including the number. Equivalently, a perfect number is a number that is half the sum of all of its positive divisors, or ó(n) = 2 n.

Six (6) is the first perfect number, because 1, 2 and 3 are its proper positive divisors and 1 + 2 + 3 = 6. << aka meaning S6

The Villain of the story never wins.

NHawk19
05-15-2006, 01:04 PM
Once the other guy blows over you might see a little more freedom in the ranks of horses... or rather, crystals...

I suppose his length of stay will be determined by the real power$, and that the DVD time frame will not factor in then. Besides for another movie it'd take like 2-3 more years anyway.

...And I wouldn't be at all surprised if the water boy makes a comeback -- the new neighborhood doesn't seem too keen on him...but we all know who is..
(plus he's still one of the highest raters)

Would they use the Dude or the new kid on the block?

...Just remember, it's entertainment -- anything can change on a whim...
(yeah, I'm still working on that conundrum...)


No doubt?

MJZ
05-15-2006, 05:03 PM
I found this on another site DTS.



The Villain of the story never wins.

Very cool.

R_9
05-17-2006, 11:12 AM
I would like to see clark hearing a report of an accident or something like that on TV and realizing that he could have helped with his powers, to me that's when we are going to see the real superman.

Kaboom
05-17-2006, 12:10 PM
if sunday school memory is right on, then 7 is a perfect number, 6 is the sign of the beast

Bruce_Wayne29
05-17-2006, 03:26 PM
Hopefully in this season we will get:
- Superbreath
- Jor-El (hopefully the real one and in human form)
- Green Arrow
- Martian Man Hunter
- the glasses
- maybe Lori Lemaris
- flight
- Clark's travels through the world
- Lana finding the truth
- the suit
- Clark finally leaving Smallville to go to Metropolis
- Superman

And then hopefully a movie (tv, dtv or theatrical it doesn't matter as long as they do it) with Tom, Michael and Erica...

avidreader
05-17-2006, 03:51 PM
Hopefully in this season we will get:
- Superbreath
- Jor-El (hopefully the real one and in human form)
- Green Arrow
- Martian Man Hunter
- the glasses
- maybe Lori Lemaris
- flight
- Clark's travels through the world
- Lana finding the truth
- the suit
- Clark finally leaving Smallville to go to Metropolis
- Superman

And then hopefully a movie (tv, dtv or theatrical it doesn't matter as long as they do it) with Tom, Michael and Erica...

Unless Smallville really tanks next year, I think half of that will be held over for Season 7. :) :up:

triplet
05-17-2006, 04:13 PM
WOOOHOOOOO!!!!! Just trying to browse and get caught up but this caught my eye :up: I also love Supernatuiral although the last few episodes were a touch melodramatic I still have the finale to see though.

Well, the last two episodes were essentially a pair you should watch them ASAP!

There's no way I'd be happy with how they left the Winchesters at the end of the finale... No way.

I seriously would have to start a letter writing campaign or something. Great Finale. The ending totally comes out of the blue....

I am so glad Supernatural got renewed! :up: :D

Aquaman worries me I was willing to try but it still sounds lame and if it is it could hurt Smallville IMHO by hurting the credibility of AG&MM

That's a point... I'm not sure how much Aquaman coulda done from episode to episode that didn't always involve talking to fish... the concept of the character has got problems, but I was going to try it out...

The limited nature of a character like that is basically what killed The Man From Atlantis, where Patrick Duffy sorta played an Aquaman like character....

Kaboom
05-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Well, the last two episodes were essentially a pair you should watch them ASAP!

There's no way I'd be happy with how they left the Winchesters at the end of the finale... No way.

I seriously would have to start a letter writing campaign or something. Great Finale. The ending totally comes out of the blue....

I am so glad Supernatural got renewed! :up: :D



That's a point... I'm not sure how much Aquaman coulda done from episode to episode that didn't always involve talking to fish... the concept of the character has got problems, but I was going to try it out...

The limited nature of a character like that is basically what killed The Man From Atlantis, where Patrick Duffy sorta played an Aquaman like character....

they probly should have gone the whole way they made namor cool, when they put him on land without a memory as a transient.

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 06:32 AM
TV Guide: Anything else you can tease about Season 6?
Gough: The theme is the rise of Lex Luthor. You're definitely going to see the more ruthless Lex Luthor you know from the comic books really start to emerge. The season will also be about the corruption of good - not only Lana, but Martha. Will she get involved with Lionel? And when Clark does come back from the Phantom Zone, what will it have done to him? We never really explored what happens to somebody inside the Phantom Zone, which is really the ultimate incarceration.

http://tvguide.com/News/Insider/default.htm?cmsGuid={EEDCD71E-92B9-4A45-8995-440C16505577}

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif

R_9
05-18-2006, 06:39 AM
They are going to corrupt Martha???

I don't like that very much :(

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 06:53 AM
They are going to corrupt Martha???

I don't like that very much :(The whole synopsis sounds whack. The theme of the season is the rise of Lex Luthor? Nothing about Lois? Nothing about Daily Planet or Metropolis. And the only thing about Clark is an inference that he'll come out of the PZ with a chip on his shoulder like some wrongly convicted ex prison incarceree?

The hell?

NONE of that stuff interests me. :(

R_9
05-18-2006, 06:59 AM
I like the stuff about lex, but the rest doesn't look very good. I hope lois gets interested in journalism and clark starts using his powers like a superhero in training, maybe hearing someone in trouble and rushing to the rescue, he never uses super-hearing like that in the show.

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 07:11 AM
I like the stuff about lex, but the rest doesn't look very good. I hope lois gets interested in journalism and clark starts using his powers like a superhero in training, maybe hearing someone in trouble and rushing to the rescue, he never uses super-hearing like that in the show.Well YEAH! Anything along those lines. I've got no problem with further exploration of Lex - the way I see it, the show is just as much about him as it is Clark - but jeeze! Could Gough have given us just a wee bit more to base some anticipation on? And this whole thing about corruption? So what's that mean? Are they gonna make us hate Martha now too? Bad enough they ruined Lana...

Oh, and the possibility of bringing on yet another guest actor as a love interest for Chloe? GAH!!! Didn't they learn from Jason that just doesn't work? Fans want to see stories based around the core cast, especially ones that involve long arcing relationship themes.

*sigh*

I'm disappointed about that interview, but I gotta go to work. I'll mull this later.

Strgts
05-18-2006, 07:25 AM
Hmmm Lexs Rise to Power

Clark will mostly be changed from being in The Phantom Zone. I am sure he will come out as Kal El or something like that. Then bam Chloe will return Clark back to normal :o Martha getting corrupted. Chloe getting a Boy Friend. Lana is still Lana. If they keep doing the same old same old this could very well be the last Season :down I guess Smallville will be one of those Shows. Start good end crappily & it is getting up to the point when even the die hard fans are getting annoyed. Not looking good. I guess after 5 Years they really are running out of ideas.

R_9
05-18-2006, 07:30 AM
They shouldn't be running out of ideas, they still could make clark travel the world to learn from other cultures, if they are giving us the same things all over again is because they are getting lazy :(

But I still have hope.

Kaboom
05-18-2006, 07:47 AM
f theres one thing weve learned bot smalville, it is that the writers are indeed lazy with their constant re-hashinof old plots

Strgts
05-18-2006, 08:09 AM
Thing is how long can they keep doing the same things over & over again ? Like AgentPat said it is bad enough they ruined Lana & now they want to completely twist & turn Martha freaking Kent & have her let herself get corrupted ? Not a good examble for the guy who one day becomes Superman. With Zod, Braniac this is getting into Huge Superman Territory here but they seem to want to go BACKWARDS instead of FORWARDS once Zod & Braniac are taken care of & this will hurt the Show. If things really do go the way they are planning now for Season 6 Vessel should have been the Series Finale :( This is how I think they will resolve things

A) Clark returns as Kal El

B) Kal El joins up with Zod, Braniac

C) Kal El being the selfish bastard that he is will eventually betray Zod & Braniac so Kal El Himself can be in control. Kal El will find & destroy the Ship & the Braniacs & eventually he will send Zod's Spirit back into The Phantom Zone

D) Lion-El comes in to give Kal El a good smacking & with the help of Chloe & Black Kryptonite they will bring Clark back

E) Lion-El will revive & save Lex

F) Clark when he was Kal El finds out where Martha & Lois is so Clark will eventually go save them

& tada things are back to normal

NHawk19
05-18-2006, 08:51 AM
Well YEAH! Anything along those lines. I've got no problem with further exploration of Lex - the way I see it, the show is just as much about him as it is Clark - but jeeze! Could Gough have given us just a wee bit more to base some anticipation on? And this whole thing about corruption? So what's that mean? Are they gonna make us hate Martha now too? Bad enough they ruined Lana...

Oh, and the possibility of bringing on yet another guest actor as a love interest for Chloe? GAH!!! Didn't they learn from Jason that just doesn't work? Fans want to see stories based around the core cast, especially ones that involve long arcing relationship themes.

*sigh*

I'm disappointed about that interview, but I gotta go to work. I'll mull this later.

Well Martha was Lana before she was Martha so maybe they just hate Lana that much.

R_9
05-18-2006, 09:18 AM
Maybe they are going for this stupid storyline because they want to drag the series to a seventh season and they don't know what else to do...

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 09:31 AM
The whole synopsis sounds whack. The theme of the season is the rise of Lex Luthor? Nothing about Lois? Nothing about Daily Planet or Metropolis. And the only thing about Clark is an inference that he'll come out of the PZ with a chip on his shoulder like some wrongly convicted ex prison incarceree?

The hell?

NONE of that stuff interests me. :(

OK Fanboy, who are you and what have you done with Pat? :confused: ;) :p

Seriously, it's one interview, the guys dont even start writing the season for another 3 weeks, as Gough said himself, what they think in April doesnt always turn out to be so come June. Plus, Gough's not going to spill everything he has up his sleeve....

R_9
05-18-2006, 09:51 AM
I hope that's the case, I really want to see clark getting closer to his destiny.
And Martha can't be corrupted :mad:

For God's sake, she is superman's mom :(

Kal-El 8
05-18-2006, 09:57 AM
TV Guide: One thing that struck me was when Jor-El told Clark that Zod destroyed Krypton. That seems a departure from traditional Superman mythology.
Gough: The idea was that on Krypton — and we'd like to explore some of this in Season 6 — Zod was the ultimate terrorist. He and Jor-El were once friends and became enemies. As a result, there was a breakaway. It has more to do with political intrigue rather than that the planet started spinning too close to the sun, which has always sort of been the traditional story.


TV Guide: What about Clark and Chloe? That was some kiss. She's had a rough time of it already — you can't make him break her heart again! Might they be a couple next season?
Gough: I think there's always that possibility. That was to show the potential that that could happen. Or, it could just be a Hawkeye-Hot Lips "in the heat of battle" thing. [Laughs]


TV Guide: Well, if it doesn't work out with Clark, then give her a boyfriend next season!
Gough: That's in the cards. That is definitely in the cards.

TV Guide: Anything else you can tease about Season 6?
Gough: The theme is the rise of Lex Luthor. You're definitely going to see the more ruthless Lex Luthor you know from the comic books really start to emerge. The season will also be about the corruption of good — not only Lana, but Martha. Will she get involved with Lionel? And when Clark does come back from the Phantom Zone, what will it have done to him? We never really explored what happens to somebody inside the Phantom Zone, which is really the ultimate incarceration


OH for the love of Pete, this is the same Bull**** from the other past seasons.

NONE of this stuff interests me. Season 6 should be the season you focus on bringing Lois, Clark & Lex closer to their DESTINY. not reusing the same Bull**** storylines from the other past seasons . :mad:

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 10:17 AM
The whole synopsis sounds whack. The theme of the season is the rise of Lex Luthor? Nothing about Lois? Nothing about Daily Planet or Metropolis. And the only thing about Clark is an inference that he'll come out of the PZ with a chip on his shoulder like some wrongly convicted ex prison incarceree?

The hell?

NONE of that stuff interests me. :(Oh my God, someone hacked into Pats Screen Name.:eek::eek::eek:

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 10:24 AM
^ Oh c'mon you guys! LOLOLOL :rolleyes: ;) :p

OK Fanboy, who are you and what have you done with Pat? :confused: ;) :p

Seriously, it's one interview, the guys don't even start writing the season for another 3 weeks, as Gough said himself, what they think in April doesn't always turn out to be so come June. Plus, Gough's not going to spill everything he has up his sleeve....Yeah, I pretty much came to that (hopeful) conclusion on my "long" five-minute commute to work (LOL) this morning. Quiet time in the car, doncha know?

There's a few points that I guess should be considered, first and foremost is that it's not even Memorial Day yet. Gough said the writers convene post the holiday, so accusing them of being lazy for the upcoming season is definitely premature - we'll have to wait and see if that assessment is accurate when the season actually starts LOL.

In terms of having a theme for the season, the one going into S5 was awesome: Superman in training. Despite what some people felt, I thought the writers did a great job of delivering that promise through ideas and concepts. Too many people were expecting it to have a more literal meaning, and hence were disappointed. If S6 plays out like S5 in delivery of theme, then viewers should expect Lex's rise to power to be a more conceptual one than one of deeds. IE: Don't expect to see him drowning puppies and blowing up school yards. Evil Lex will be one of manipulation and psyche, which works for me.

But gosh darnit, I want to know what the theme is for Clark? :mad: This whole thing about exploring what happens to somebody inside the Phantom Zone doesn't cut the mustard for an entire season, and certainly not one that could potentially be the LAST season.

I'm hoping they elaborate more on SV at the upfronts shortly. They usually get Welling at these events to wow the press too, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

avidreader
05-18-2006, 10:28 AM
^^^^ That's more like it.

He hasnt really committed one way or an other with regards to Clark, just that his time in the PZ would have an effect on him. It could mean that he meets his father in there in some way, and we see Clark then getting closer to his father and all things Krypton for the remainder of the season. Gough does mention something about Krypton.

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 10:34 AM
How can a few hours effect him. This isn't OZ were talking about I mean if I am right he should spend no more then two hours there then come back and save Smallville again.

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 10:35 AM
OH for the love of Pete, this is the same Bull**** from the other past seasons.

NONE of this stuff interests me. Season 6 should be the season you focus on bringing Lois, Clark & Lex closer to their DESTINY. not reusing the same Bull**** storylines from the other past seasons . :mad:

so the "rise of Lex Luthor" isnt Lex getting closer to his destiny? :confused:

relax nerds, theyre not going to ignore Clark, that should go without saying,

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 10:35 AM
Also rumor has it TW is suppose to be at the premire of the new movie Superman Returns is that true.

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 10:37 AM
How can a few hours effect him. This isn't OZ were talking about I mean if I am right he should spend no more then two hours there then come back and save Smallville again.

I'd liken a couple hours in the PZ to a couple hours in hell. Sure it's just a couple of hours, but it REALLY SUCKS there :)

Plus, doesnt time work differently in the PZ?

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 10:41 AM
I'd liken a couple hours in the PZ to a couple hours in hell. Sure it's just a couple of hours, but it REALLY SUCKS there :)

Plus, doesnt time work differently in the PZ?depends on which time period we're talking about with time in the PZ Pre-Crisis yes it did. Post no it didn't as well as S:TAS it didn't.

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 10:52 AM
relax nerds, they're not going to ignore Clark, that should go without saying,http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nerd.gif

Also rumor has it TW is suppose to be at the premiere of SR [edited to remove silliness] is that true.I love how rumors just pop out of nowhere.

Whereja hear that, Tony? Not saying it aint true, but I'd like to know where you got the idea before speculating further on its probability.

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 10:56 AM
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nerd.gif

I love how rumors just pop out of nowhere.

Whereja hear that, Tony? Not saying it aint true, but I'd like to know where you got the idea before speculating further on its probability.Oh it is popping up in other forums so I am just wondering since it sounds pretty reasonable since well he does play Clark Kent. So I was just wondering since this board seems to act like they know all about TW. Also why wouldn't he I mean its not like he is bitter or something over the role?

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 11:13 AM
Oh it is popping up in other forums so I am just wondering since it sounds pretty reasonable since well he does play Clark Kent.Honestly, I don't have the time to look. Are people just speculating, or are you quoting an actual news source? That's all I'm asking.

So I was just wondering since this board seems to act like they know all about TW...Condescend much? :rolleyes:

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 11:16 AM
people just speculating I guess. Just was wondering though

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 11:27 AM
people just speculating I guess. Just was wondering thoughAh, well then I'd say until a legitimate news source says otherwise, it's probably a safe bet to presume he won't be there. Just my opinion. I've been wrong before - many times in fact.

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 11:36 AM
Wel I would ask why wouldn't he since it is kind of expected of him to show but I would not get an honest answer or a serios talk about it. Anyways this season sounds alittle better if it is more about Lex because IMO Lex is the show and I feel it would be nice to see Lex at work being evil.

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 11:39 AM
Wel I would ask why wouldn't he since it is kind of expected of him to show but I would not get an honest answer or a serios talk about it.You're creating controversy where none exists. Ditch all the rumors you've heard about Welling and ask yourself something. When he's not working, what's he usually do in the summer? He vacations with his family. I doubt he'd want to trade THAT kind of quality time - during the Fourth of July weekend no less - to be at some film premiere in Los Angeles. He's got three months out of the year to put distance between himself and all things Superman. What would you do? Personally, I'd want to be left alone and not have to face a gauntlet of press, but that's just me.

Anyways this season sounds alittle better if it is more about Lex because IMO Lex is the show and I feel it would be nice to see Lex at work being evil.If that's what it takes for you and others to be a little more positive about SV, hallelujah! :up: :D

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 11:56 AM
Yes its what it takes I just want to see Lex kill. To me his speech on why he was Clarks friend was the best part of the show IMO. I want to see the evil that Lex can do.

Kal-El 8
05-18-2006, 12:04 PM
I just read some of the stuff they have planed for Season 6. And I'm going to tell you right now I'm not Impressed @ all .

What piss-me of the most about smallville is the way Clark Kent's character is handled . In most version of The Superman story. At The age of 18 Clark has already Embraced & Accepted his DESTINY. Putting his past life in smallville, behind him & going out into The world to not only learn more about his home, But to also do some hard soul searching to find his place in the world as an adult both as SUPERMAN & Reporter Clark Kent.

Not in Smallville in SV's version Clark is no where near close to becomining The Man he is DESTINY to become not as SUPERMAN or Mild Mannered Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet. FOR 5 years this guy has been siting on his ass in smallville kansas, I hope to God When he returns in Season 6 from the Phantom Zone He comes back A Change Man . Last years Theme was Superman in Training I saw no such thing last year. I saw more Damn Teen anguish , Sex, lies & Romance, More Soap opera Drama. This year their had better be a change .

SUPERMAN RETURNS sounds 10 X10 better than Season 6 of smallville .

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 12:09 PM
To be honest I wounder if Superman Returns may have an effect on the ratings? I mean most people I know watched the show to see Tom Welling play Superman now that he wont how does this effect the rating? Will there be a drop?

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 12:16 PM
the movie is irrlevant, it wasnt even close to becoming a reality when the show debuted in 2001. The fact that Welling isnt in it, doesnt matter. He'll still be Superman at the end of SV which is what people tune in to watch each week...

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 12:22 PM
I get what your saying Hulk I am just wondering if most people care outside of the die hard fans. Most people expected him to do the movies and all of that. Would most people care really to see him maybe do a shirt rip or something a long those lines because we don't even know if we'll see him as Superman since we don't really know what will happen later down the road by what the powers to be may say.

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 12:25 PM
the whole premise of the series is the journey not the destination. People would care for the same reason they've cared for the past 5 years, people want ot see how Smallville's version is gonna play out.

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 12:29 PM
Okay I don't know but alot of people I now cared because there was talk at the time that the new movie might take place after SV and that Welling would be Superman(suit and cape) now that he is not Superman I was just wondering the effect it might have on the ratings just wondering because most people care about the man he becomes not how he got there. Because to be honest All-Star Superman #1 sumed it up in one page.

Ultimate_Superman
05-18-2006, 12:32 PM
The people who care the most on how he got there are Superman Fanboys. But the world pretty much cares about the man in the suit not the boy on the farm because we already know how that plays out.



Also how bout dem Pistons :D Doesn't matter who wins they are just playing for the right to get beat by The Heat.

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 04:02 PM
there arent enough "Superman fanboys" to carry the show. The existence of vile message boards like K-Site and DTS should prove that it's just not them watching it....

And the Pistons aint dead yet. If they come back and beat the LeBrons, they wont be stopped again.

tonytr1687
05-18-2006, 06:42 PM
All yall do now is ***** ***** ***** b/c you wanna see Clark don the suit right away. Well guess what you're gonna hav to wait a couple more years, you whiny fanboys. I actually hope the writers keep deviating from the material just to smite you. Its ridiculous he says Season 6 will be about the "rise of Lex Luthor" and all yall can do is whine about how Chloe MIGHT (might!) get a boyfriend. Or how Martha MIGHT (might!) become a little corrupted. I mean come on whats wrong with changing things up as long as its interesting. If you ask me seeing Martha do something different than the ritual goodie-two-shoes materal warmth part shes had since Season 1 is a good change of pace. Some of you are like "aggh they're gonna make us hate her like they made us hate Lana!" Well did you ever think that may be the point? And why do yall get so attached to the characters to the point where you hate them? Its a ****ing tv show, if you pay attention you'll notice everything the characters do has a cause. The reason Lana is lashing out so much is b/c of what....b/c shes been burned time and time again over the years. Shes tired of it, much like Lex is and that kinda thing can corrupt ppl and make them an angry person.

The most hilarious thing is how you all whined b/c he didnt mention anything about Clarks destiny. What just b/c he doesnt talk about it yet, doesnt mean we're not gonna see it....be patient.

AgentPat
05-18-2006, 10:42 PM
LOL! Now I wonder which post a certain Lana fanboy was addressing?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif


Eh, no matter.

Lets all toast evil Lana. Clarky's done with ya hon. Enjoy your daily kneel before Lexod next season. I'm sure he will. :D :up:

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/party.gif


EDIT: Sorry, Serene. The Devil made me do it. :O

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 10:53 PM
All yall do now is ***** ***** ***** b/c you wanna see Clark don the suit right away. Well guess what you're gonna hav to wait a couple more years, you whiny fanboys. I actually hope the writers keep deviating from the material just to smite you.

LOL did you mean "spite" them? Or are you really hoping for DeKnight to come along and and behead them with a large sword? :D ;)

user123456789
05-18-2006, 11:04 PM
LOL did you mean "spite" them? Or are you really hoping for DeKnight to come along and and behead them with a large sword? :D ;)

I thought Smiting was done with shield?

The Incredible Hulk
05-18-2006, 11:06 PM
I guess you could smite someone with a shield but you'd ahve to hit them pretty damn hard... LOL

Definitions of smite on the Web:

* inflict a heavy blow on, with the hand, a tool, or a weapon
* affect suddenly with deep feeling; "He was smitten with love for this young girl"
* afflict: cause pain or suffering in; "afflict with the plague";

tonytr1687
05-19-2006, 01:22 AM
LOL did you mean "spite" them? Or are you really hoping for DeKnight to come along and and behead them with a large sword? :D ;)

yeah spite...but seriously yall are becoming just as bad as the ppl over at k-site.

tonytr1687
05-19-2006, 01:24 AM
LOL! Now I wonder which post a certain Lana fanboy was addressing?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif


Eh, no matter.

Lets all toast evil Lana. Clarky's done with ya hon. Enjoy your daily kneel before Lexod next season. I'm sure he will. :D :up:

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/party.gif


EDIT: Sorry, Serene. The Devil made me do it. :O

I'm not Lana fanboy. I just seem to be one of the few who actually understands her motivation. Too many ppl have Clark-blinders on and cant see it from her perspective or Lex's perspective. The sad thing is they're right in some of the stuff they say b/c Clark is getting a little too self-righteous for his own good...but I understand its just a part of his growth. Soon or later he'll begin to see that not everything is black and white.

MJZ
05-19-2006, 04:54 AM
Gough always says provactive crap like that. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Season 4 was all about Clark playing football, having fun, and seeing if he could have sex, remember? It didn't turn out too bad.

R_9
05-19-2006, 06:22 AM
I don't want clark to wear the suit yet, i just want him to realize that he could help a lot of people with his powers, so far he hasn't decided what to do with them...yet. :)

AgentPat
05-19-2006, 06:49 AM
I'm not Lana fanboy.Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, Tony. ;)

I just seem to be one of the few who actually understands her motivation. Too many ppl have Clark-blinders on and cant see it from her perspective or Lex's perspective.Proving my point. :D

It's when you ONLY see it from one perspective that it becomes one-sided. I admit to taking Clark's side on most issues. Just admit to taking Lana's side most of the time. It's okay; we won't bash you for it. They ARE just characters and it's a preference, that's all. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't bash other folks here for having a different opinion.

The sad thing is they're right in some of the stuff they say b/c Clark is getting a little too self-righteous for his own good...but I understand its just a part of his growth. Soon or later he'll begin to see that not everything is black and white.ALL of the characters learn and grow. Unlike K-site, most of the folks here know that, though you'll encounter folks everywhere who just like to piss and moan about the show or a particular character.

I'd argue that Clark is probably the ONLY character who *doesn't* see everything in black and white. He believes there's good in ALL people, and that quality will remain with him for the rest of his life. He will, for example, always hold out a sliver of hope that Lex has it within himself to change and become a better person. In Clark's eyes, Lex can be redeemed. As to Lana, she too will eventually understand that all Clark wanted was for her to be safe and happy, despite his unsuccessful attempts to effect that end. Both characters have experienced great pain as a result of extenuating circumstances relating to the other. The only difference is, Lana doesn't see Clark's pain or, most recently, apparently care enough about Clark to not inflict more. That will change eventually. Unfortunately however, it will probably bring more pain to the both of them before she realizes what she already knew...

From Hidden:
Lana: ...I need you to know that from the first moment that I saw you, I knew that no one could make me happier than you. But, I also knew that you would never change. You would always be running around, trying to save the day. All those times I pushed away was because I knew this day would come.

-and-

Lana: I was wrong. Believe me, there is nothing unusual about Clark. Except his ability to see the good in people who don't deserve it.

From Thirst:
Lana: ...there was one thing that stuck with me, something I felt when I bit you.
Clark: What was that?
Lana: Warmth and love and an overwhelming feeling of strength. I think that for a moment, I felt what was inside your heart and I've never felt closer to someone in my entire life.

BaK
05-19-2006, 08:13 AM
Lets all toast evil Lana. Clarky's done with ya hon.
Actually Pat, this "virtual" river in Egypt flows both ways.. :)

AgentPat
05-19-2006, 08:16 AM
Actually Pat, this "virtual" river in Egypt flows both ways.. :)What's your point?

I admit to taking Clark's side on most issues.I aint hidin' anytin'. :p

Kaboom
05-19-2006, 09:55 AM
do you think there could be any possible way, when clark gets back we could get a MM appearance. i mean think about it, a whole city in a state of panic, something clark obv cant fix by himself. so after he defeats zod he races to metropolis, where everyone is going nuts. he has no idea what to do and suddenly everyone is asleep. everyone except for him and one cop standing in the corner, who looks like remarkebly like carl lumbly (he is looking for work since alias is over).
to which clark says "who are you?"
"J'onn J'onzz....how are you Kal-El?"

avidreader
05-19-2006, 11:27 AM
I'd argue that Clark is probably the ONLY character who *doesn't* see everything in black and white. He believes there's good in ALL people, and that quality will remain with him for the rest of his life. He will, for example, always hold out a sliver of hope that Lex has it within himself to change and become a better person. In Clark's eyes, Lex can be redeemed. As to Lana, she too will eventually understand that all Clark wanted was for her to be safe and happy, despite his unsuccessful attempts to effect that end. Both characters have experienced great pain as a result of extenuating circumstances relating to the other. The only difference is, Lana doesn't see Clark's pain or, most recently, apparently care enough about Clark to not inflict more. That will change eventually. Unfortunately however, it will probably bring more pain to the both of them before she realizes what she already knew...

From Hidden:
Lana: ...I need you to know that from the first moment that I saw you, I knew that no one could make me happier than you. But, I also knew that you would never change. You would always be running around, trying to save the day. All those times I pushed away was because I knew this day would come.

-and-

Lana: I was wrong. Believe me, there is nothing unusual about Clark. Except his ability to see the good in people who don't deserve it.

From Thirst:
Lana: ...there was one thing that stuck with me, something I felt when I bit you.
Clark: What was that?
Lana: Warmth and love and an overwhelming feeling of strength. I think that for a moment, I felt what was inside your heart and I've never felt closer to someone in my entire life.

I do love the way you write exactly the way I feel. How are you able to do that?

I'll put my hand up too and say that for the most part I see things from Clark's perspective.

And you do realise Tony that Clark has endured as much abuse and pain from his "father" as Lex, only Clark has managed to overcome all that and still remain faithful to what he believes is right.