Ion

[LadyVader]

So I read the first issue of Ion and... it's good. I didn't hate it. It served it's purpose of first issue.

So in the past year Kyle has basically been a hermit of sorts. :) He's at some kind of retreat for painters but he knows something is wrong. There was a nice little homage to Radu, his former landlord.. romanian landlord :D . There was a cup with a "Radu's" logo.
My main gripe with the book is... the art. It's a little screwey. :) I don't know this Tocchini character. Is he the same guy that used to do Robin a while back? I don't know if I like it or not... but most panels are very "painting" like. Loose colors, surreal feeling.
As for characterization I am quite pleased to see that Kyle still thinks of himself as "just a guy... who did a job... is still doing it". Nice to see the power hasn't gone to his head like I thought it would after rebecoming Ion.
Looking forward to next issue.

[kieron39]

what is it about? has he lost some of his green lantern power? is he more powerful or something? i never read any of the kyle books, but im interested in whats happening. thanks

[warren_sparta27]

i agree that the art isn't great, i'm hoping that as the storlyine progesses though that the art starts to click.
i do like his new costume though.

[LadyVader]

what is it about? has he lost some of his green lantern power? is he more powerful or something? i never read any of the kyle books, but im interested in whats happening. thanks


A while back, when he was still the Earth's only GL Kyle temporarly took on the name Ion when he gained some godly powers by siphoning the entire Green Lantern energy, or smth.
He gave that energy away in order to rebuild Oa and subsequently, the new Green Lantern order. Before he did that however he gave a little bit of his power to his then girlfriend Jade.
During Infinite Crisis however Jade gave that little bit of power back to him before her untimely death and it seems that that's the boost he needed to rebecome Ion, ergo... really really really powerful.
What's happening in the first Ion issue is that Kyle is afraid he might lose control over this power and destroy the corps, which is understandable given that it has happened before .

[XwolverineX]

I didn't really dig the issue all that much. Probably just 'cause they were startin' up, but also the art threw me for a loop. It was really... Different..

[kieron39]

oh.. .so he's still a lantern with the ring and everything?
how did jade die? was she the lantern from the JSA daughter?

[LadyVader]

He doesn't need a ring anymore.
Jade died in "Rann Thanagar War Infinite Crisis special" in space. Yes, she was Allan Scott's daughter.

[Assassin]

i thought it was okay, but i didnt understand the begining when he killed that corps member..and i dont like the art

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think he killed the Corps member, and I don't think you're meant to understand why he attacked the two Corpsmen right now. It looks like the series is set up as a mystery that will slowly unravel. I was kind of disappointed by the fact that the issue featured practically no answers about what's really happening to Kyle or how powerful he is or anything. The art was actually better than I expected it to be. I still think Tocchini's all wrong for this series, but his art wasn't totally incomprehensible. I've never been a fan of really "loose" art, though.

So yeah, overall it was good but slightly underwhelming. Maybe I just built it up too much in my head, since I've missed having a Kyle-centric book for so long. I'm hoping Kyle visits Alan Scott at some point, though. They have more in common than ever now--they're both grieving Jade, they're both something just beyond Green Lanterns, they're both struggling with their humanity. Marz would be crazy not to capitalize on those shared traits and have them bond a little over them.

[TheFalcon]

I haven't gotten this yet, but I'm glad that it isn't as bad as I feared it would be. I thought Kyle was going to star in the GL Corps title with Guy so I was disappointed when I heard of this new series. I'm abit annoyed that he couldn't stay as a GL and I don't like the new suit very much, but since Ion is supposedly just 12 issues he could return as a GL later.

[yenaled]

I really nejoyed the book, I mean... we have a Kyle book back. That's fantastic.

The art, was a lot better than I heard it was people built it up as horrible but it just a little well artistic.

Seems as if when Jyle looses control of his power the "mask" forms over his face.

But I like seeing him back on Earth and I love double spread of all Kyle's history. There was so much jammed in I spent ages looking at it.

Also, some inks from #2;

http://www.comicbloc.com/images/stories/comics/previews/ion2/ion002006_600.jpg
http://www.comicbloc.com/images/stories/comics/previews/ion2/ion002021_600.jpg

[Hush]

Need to pick this up I guess. I Loved the original ION.

[TheCorpulent1]

I really nejoyed the book, I mean... we have a Kyle book back. That's fantastic.

The art, was a lot better than I heard it was people built it up as horrible but it just a little well artistic.

Seems as if when Jyle looses control of his power the "mask" forms over his face.

But I like seeing him back on Earth and I love double spread of all Kyle's history. There was so much jammed in I spent ages looking at it.

Also, some inks from #2;

http://www.comicbloc.com/images/stories/comics/previews/ion2/ion002006_600.jpg
http://www.comicbloc.com/images/stories/comics/previews/ion2/ion002021_600.jpg
Hmm... did the inker change? Maybe he/she was responsible for the confusing visuals in #1 because those #2 inks look a lot clearer.

[Hawkeye]

I really nejoyed the book, I mean... we have a Kyle book back. That's fantastic.

The art, was a lot better than I heard it was people built it up as horrible but it just a little well artistic.

Seems as if when Jyle looses control of his power the "mask" forms over his face.

But I like seeing him back on Earth and I love double spread of all Kyle's history. There was so much jammed in I spent ages looking at it.

Also, some inks from #2;

http://www.comicbloc.com/images/stories/comics/previews/ion2/ion002006_600.jpg
http://www.comicbloc.com/images/stories/comics/previews/ion2/ion002021_600.jpg

Sweet. :eek: :up:

[BrianWilly]

Actually, according to Ron Marz, the inker did change. Apparently Tocchini did the inking himself for the first issue and they got something else for the second. So expect better art to come.

I really liked this issue. Marz always wrote great Kyle, and it really felt like Kyle again, after all that "Great Guardians!" tomfoolery. It was nice to get back to his roots with his painting and stuff. And I actually thought the art wasn't as bad as I'd been warned that it would be; the scenes on Earth were actually quite pleasant.

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, according to Ron Marz, the inker did change. Apparently Tocchini did the inking himself for the first issue and they got something else for the second. So expect better art to come.
Sweet. With a good inker to smooth over some of Tocchini's inconsistency, I'm looking forward to the rest of the Ion mini all the more.

[Metropolis_Man]

The story here was pretty good. I really like the art here though. Its definately something different, but I like it a lot. Can't wait for the next issue.

[regwec]

I wasn't fond of the art- I couldn't really tell what was supposed to be going on some of the time.

[TheVileOne]

Well I'm glad Jade's dead, she was a ***** and a ****. She had it coming, especially after what she did to Kyle.

Not really digging the art on this one too much. I'm at least glad to see Kyle earth-bound again, if he is in fact on earth or if this is just another one of his elaborate artist headcase deals like circle of fire.

[That-Guy]

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the art. Not sure about the story yet, either. Not only has the whole "there's something we didn't tell you about your power" thing been done before with Green Lantern, but IT WAS JUST DONE LAST YEAR. I hope they are going for something different than an "impurity" in Kyle's power. If not, then this is just going to be like a retread of Rebirth with crappy artwork.

[TheCorpulent1]

Where did you see anything about an impurity in Kyle's power? :confused:

[RAMORE]

i think he means it better not be a rehash of retcon of a headache:D

[yenaled]

Interview up with Ron Marz about Ion (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69928).

Doesn't go into too much specifics but I think I like the way he is thinking and I think it is going to be a great series.

New coloured pages as well...

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Ion/ION_2_Page_1.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Ion/ION_2_Page_2.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Ion/ION_2_Page_3.jpg
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Ion/ION_2_Page_4.jpg

I think the inker has done a vast improvement on Greg's artwork given it a much more solid look which i think will please a lot of people.

[TheCorpulent1]

That is much better. I can actually discern what's going on in those pages. The Guardians' faces are still a bit rough, but I suppose that's just Tocchini's style. His faces in Thor: Son of Asgard were pretty sketchy, too.

[BrianWilly]

Great f'ing Guardians, that art is so much better it looks like a completely different comic.

[warren_sparta27]

holy potatoes, that artwork looks great :)

[ToddIsDead]

I wasn't to hot on the art,but I see that's going to change. I'm going to give it a few more issues. I think it'll be interesting.

[That-Guy]

Wow... yeah, that art from issue #2 looks like it was drawn by a different person. Much better job on the inking, I guess. Looking forward to it.

Oh, Corp... what I meant by the "impurity" is that obviously, something is going wrong with Kyle's power, and the Guardians know what it is... well... they also knew about Parallax and though I don't think they knew that it could corrupt a GL through his ring, when it happened, they eventually knew they f**ked up. Anyway, whatever this is, it doesn't actually sound like the problem this time is some sort of living entity within, but it does seem to have some destructive power and hopefully that doesn't mean we'll be seeing Kyle go all "Emerald Twilight" on us.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, they mentioned that he was evolving in IC. Maybe this is just the cosmic equivalent of a teething process. ;)

[TheFalcon]

I just read the interview and it sounds better than I feared. I haven't read #1 yet (I'll get it in a few days), but I thought Marz was going to make Kyle really powerful and have him fight some huge cosmics villains in space all the time. I like that he's instead going to get him back to Earth. I've liked the Earth based stories with Kyle more than the space ones.

Any guesses for the large threat mentioned?

NRAMA: So – broad strokes – where are things headed? The Guardians seem to be indicating that there’s a major threat that Ion is going to have to handle…is there?

RM: Yes, major threat. We didn't amp up Kyle just so he could go kick the Rainbow Raider's ass next time he tries to knock over a jewelry store. Where things are headed ... can't tell you that, even in broad strokes. But I can tell you that it does all come together.

I'm hoping for a showdown with Darkseid. The GL Corps is unable to stop him so Kyle/Ion gets called in.

[LadyVader]

Is it to much to ask that somewhere down the line... Effigy resurfaces? :)

[nightstreak]

A while back, when he was still the Earth's only GL Kyle temporarly took on the name Ion when he gained some godly powers by siphoning the entire Green Lantern energy, or smth.
He gave that energy away in order to rebuild Oa and subsequently, the new Green Lantern order. Before he did that however he gave a little bit of his power to his then girlfriend Jade.
During Infinite Crisis however Jade gave that little bit of power back to him before her untimely death and it seems that that's the boost he needed to rebecome Ion, ergo... really really really powerful.
What's happening in the first Ion issue is that Kyle is afraid he might lose control over this power and destroy the corps, which is understandable given that it has happened before .
Jade died. I read Outsiders have all infinite crisis and the new GL series, didnt hear about this? Details please?

[ToddIsDead]

She died in IC Special: Rann/Thanagar War.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Jade's dead, boo hoo.

Anybody else kind of creeped out by the fact that we've essentially got a Guardians upskirt shot here?

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Ion/ION_2_Page_1.jpg

[yenaled]

I've been wating 10 years for a upskirt Guardians shot.

[Anubis]

Kind of a let down. :( I wanted to see hairy blue sack.

[TheCorpulent1]

You've got 4 right there. They call them "heads."

[nightstreak]

This is only issue number 1 of Ion, how is it Torch Bearer part... 2??

[yenaled]

That's scans for Issue #2, issue #1 was out two weeks ago.

[Mister J]

I finally got around to reading this. Nothing earth-shaking, but it seems like a good set-up for the future. I can't wait for them to show off Ion's power. The deal at the end with the bounty looks promising.

[LanternFan]

Is it to much to ask that somewhere down the line... Effigy resurfaces? :)

I liked Effigy too, but he was always grossly underpowered and never ammounted to much more than a nuissanc to Kyle.

Which brings to mind...Nero. Did he die? If not, p'raps he could be recruited into the new "Sinestro Corps."



I admit theres not a lot to this post, but I'm out of practice.

[BrianWilly]

Nero being with the Sinestro Corps could be really cool. I think he's dead from that first time Kyle became Ion, though to be honest that's never stopped anyone before:p.

[TheCorpulent1]

Superboy Prime did hit that wall an awful lot. ;)

It'd be nice to see each of the Earth GLs, at least, have a Sinestro Corps counterpart. Sinestro himself is obviously Hal's, Nero would be Kyle's (although Nero's not a match for him anymore). Have John or Guy ever fought yellow ring wielders?

[yenaled]

I think not having Nero in the Sinestro Corps would be like bringing Hal back and killing Kyle. I can almost guarentee that Nero will show up.

Well Guy did have the yellow ring and John fought Fatality a few times when she had the yellow ring - although he was in a wheelchair at the time.

[The Leaguer]

I don't want anyone in the Sinestro Corps. That seems like such a stupid idea.

[TheCorpulent1]

You're a stupid idea. :o

[The Leaguer]

Owned!

[LanternFan]

I don't want anyone in the Sinestro Corps. That seems like such a stupid idea.

I don't think it's a stupid idea, but they could have thought up a better name.

I mean, what if the GLC was called the Jordan Corps??? Just doesn't work. Yellow Lantern Corps wouldn't work because of the stupid bizzaro world guy.

How about the Qwardian Lantern Corps? Or just the Quardian Corps? Anyone else have suggestions?


P.S. Was the last time Nero appeared in that fight with Kyle just before he bacame Ion for the first time, or has he been back since?

[Hush]

My Shop was Out of ION......iam sad.

[LadyVader]

Ion #2

Well alright. Now we're getting somewhere!

The art is better, but still a little screwy. I don't really understand what went one during Kyle's bout with that bounty hunter, but the dialogue made up for it. For a while it seemed like we had our ol' Kyle back and he did do some more creative constructs. I am interested in the story, lots of suspense. It's almost like a "who dun it" story on a galactic scale. I hope we get some more original stuff soon, the whole Green Lantern destroying a planet has been done before. It's obvious there's more to it this time. I guess it is to be expected the pacing would be a little slow, given this is a 12 issue series. Revelations will come in small portions.
Anyway, I wonder what mogo's role is in all of this. :)

[BrianWilly]

My thoughts from the B/T thread:
Ion #2
Not much to say, honestly; the plot progresses a bit, the mystery deepens, and the art is a lot better.

We get to see a bit of Ion's actual power, and it doesn't actually feel too different from his old Green Lantern powers other than the fact that he has no ring. There's an interesting tidbit where Kyle mentions his powers are a combo of the Central Power Battery and the Starheart, which would make sense. I wonder if that's going to be significant down the line; maybe a combination of logical science and chaotic magic is exactly what the Guardians' "experiment" is all about. It would be nice if the Guardians' return to their old stodgy, authoritarian attitudes was just a ruse, since that tends to invalidate a lot of what Winick did with them, but I dunno...mystic stuff usually feels incredibly out of place in a Green Lantern's universe.

Again, it's nice that Marz is one writing this, since his "tone" is unmistakably and unrecognizably Kyle.

(7.8 out of 10)

[kiuju2k]

I thought it was alright. Kind of a slow one. Now his power is actually a little more clearer to me. Starheart with Green Lantern power. I always thought it was residual Ion power like it was said back in IC. I guess hes even more like Alan Scott than he has ever been. Like it was said earlier i think its at least an interesting experiment with the guardians using magic at this point and how unpredictable it is. So far so good :)

[TheCorpulent1]

I was pretty surprised that Kyle was such a wuss. He displayed more power as a GL in JLA. Still, #2 was good overall. Slow again, but at least we got to see some more of the Corps' reaction to maybe-Kyle/maybe-not's actions.

[Hush]

I Loved it and I havent even read part one yet partly because its gone at my store.

[yenaled]

http://www.horhaus.com/weblogs/archives/v3/ion5.jpg

Kalman Andrasofszky has posted a new version of Ion #5 cover on his weblog (http://www.horhaus.com/v3/index.html).

Compaired to the old cover it is amazingly stunning;

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5770_400x600.jpg

Kalman needs to get a regular inside job because he covers are amazing, he is fastly becoming a favourite penciler of mine.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oooh, glowy effects. :eek:

Just kidding. Yeah, the new cover looks better on all counts. Kyle and Hal's poses are much stronger, the more stylized, Chinese dragon motif to the yellow monster is much more visually interesting, and the fact that the antagonist is flying out of the monster's eye creates a nice frame. :up:

[yenaled]

and it has glowy effects.

[TheCorpulent1]

Naturally.

[kiuju2k]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say thats probably going to be nero. Seeing as the construct is well... artsy.

I was pretty surprised that Kyle was such a wuss. He displayed more power as a GL in JLA. Still, #2 was good overall. Slow again, but at least we got to see some more of the Corps' reaction to maybe-Kyle/maybe-not's actions.

Thats true I don't think green lanterns now can do the things kyle has done
with the ring. Or perhaps vice versa. I'm really interested in his power levels now and how he is supposedly the strongest well one of the strongest in the dcu. We'll see how hes written.

and it has glowy effects.

Wow!

[Hush]

Issue 3 comes out when??

[yenaled]

End of the month.

[Hush]

ARGH!!! I hate waits, lovin this series though even though I didnt get issue 1 I just loved issue 2.

[GoldenAgeHero]

meh, not really digging the whole direction, i wouldve preffered if he just lead the GL corps instead. issue 1 nor 2 didnt really impress me, I'll pass on this series.

[The Leaguer]

According to Marz, the true direction of the book is supposed to become clear around issue 4, so if you stick around until then, you might be pleased.

[yenaled]

I'm enjoying the direction, it's Kyle and I love it.

I'm liking exploring the starheart more. Hoping maybe Yulan Gar might be involved, especially with the Chinese motiffs on the cover.

[Darthphere]

meh, not really digging the whole direction, i wouldve preffered if he just lead the GL corps instead. issue 1 nor 2 didnt really impress me, I'll pass on this series.


You. Not liking something? Get outta here.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm enjoying the direction, it's Kyle and I love it.

I'm liking exploring the starheart more. Hoping maybe Yulan Gar might be involved, especially with the Chinese motiffs on the cover.
I'm hoping to see Hal get the hell out of the series and Alan start showing up on covers soon. The whole series is about Kyle's adapting to the changes of his evolution and being unique among the GLs. Alan's the perfect mentor for that. If Marz doesn't have at least one sit-down between the two of them, I'll be annoyed.

[yenaled]

Couldn't agree more, Alan has always been a father and mentor figure to Kyle and if there is one person in the universe he would turn too (except perhaps Ganthet) it would be Alan.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's another thing I'd like to see: Ganthet growing a pair and standing up to his fellow Guardians. The guy clearly grew a conscience and learned to relate to the mere mortals he was forced to depend on for so long. It's gotta be burning him up to watch the other Guardians jerk the Corpsmen and Kyle around like nothing more than pawns on their intergalactic chessboard again.

[Darthphere]

Im really liking this book, dont know why but I do.

[warren_sparta27]

holy ****, that wart work is fantastic

[ToddIsDead]

I just read issue 2 yesterday. Pretty good.

[Hush]

I think Hal is there more as a "Im going to find out whats wrong because I am the best and when something is out of the ordinary its my job to fix it.........because im the best." role than anything else. I have a gut feeling we will see Alan just because the starheart was mentioned. Hal I think is going to try and stop/figure out whats wrong, and get his ass handed to him in a variety of ways, via really freaking cool consructs.

[Darthphere]

I wonder who the 3rd Lantern is.

[TheCorpulent1]

Which third Lantern?

[Darthphere]

Look at the yellow dudes eye, you have someone coming out of it, and on the original it has a green glow.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, you mean the guy with the yellow ring? Who says he/she is a Lantern? It could just be some douche who got a yellow ring, like Nero.

[Darthphere]

Oh, you mean the guy with the yellow ring? Who says he/she is a Lantern? It could just be some douche who got a yellow ring, like Nero.


Maybe.

[TheCorpulent1]

I see a yellow glow that looks slightly greenish around the edges because it's blending into a solid black silhouette. :confused:

[Darthphere]

I see a yellow glow that looks slightly greenish around the edges because it's blending into a solid black silhouette. :confused:


What are you talking about?

[TheCorpulent1]

This:
Look at the yellow dudes eye, you have someone coming out of it, and on the original it has a green glow.

[yenaled]

More previews;

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0606/21/ion3c.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0606/21/ion31.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0606/21/ion32.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0606/21/ion33.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0606/21/ion34.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0606/21/ion35.jpg

[Darthphere]

Art looks great, but looks like Tocchini cant pick a style and stick with it.

[yenaled]

I'm not sure if that is him or the inker making the difference. I suppose after a few more issues they will have both found their fixed style and we'll probably see a fixed look. But I agree, I think the art is great.

Also, looks like we might get a bit of explaination as too why Alex popped up in the GLC mini last year.

[Darthphere]

Its funny seeing Kyle in Hal's uniform.

[sethcohen]

i like it better than his other GL uniforms...

[Hush]

wow do we eally haveto wait another week!!! gah i love this mini and ive only readone issue. Kyle is just my absolute fav.

[BrianWilly]

That's the uniform that Kyle wore when he first became GL, when he and Alex were still together. I imagine we're going to take a sort of whirlwind tour through the main parts of Kyle's life, with corresponding uniforms and stuff.

[Darthphere]

That's the uniform that Kyle wore when he first became GL, when he and Alex were still together. I imagine we're going to take a sort of whirlwind tour through the main parts of Kyle's life, with corresponding uniforms and stuff.


OMG, you mean......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/bigimages/kyle1.jpg

[yenaled]

Next: Return of the Crab Mask :D

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked the crab mask.

[batnkevlar]

So, why does he always see Alex on Mogo?

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Mogo is a place where dreams come true. :up:

[LadyVader]

I think you can even spot Tatu somewhere in the background. :)

[yenaled]

I liked the crab mask.

So did I actually, though for me no-one but Daryll Banks could really draw that costume. Then Jim Lee really did design a much superior costume (minus dog collar).

[Hush]

Wow the third issue was so freaking cool. Is it just me or is there yet another new version of cover 4 out it was pictured in the back of the book. It was a really good read I enjoyed it.

[warren_sparta27]

haven't picked up issue 3 yet, comics won't arrive until tuesday they said :(

but the previews look good, the art has gotten better for sure.

oh, and i also liked the crab mask.

[LadyVader]

To sum up issue 3:
Bla
Bla
Bla..

Not to diss Marz, because I think overall he's doing a good job, but Alex, Donna and Jenny's ramblings bored me, and they all seem to say basically the same thing, over and over again.
You're changing.
No I'm not.
You're afraid.
No I'm not. I can handle it.
No, you can't.

Alright already. What was nice about it is we got to Kyle's second costume, to bad he didn't have his facemask. You know, I used to really hate that mask, but in the end it grew on me.
It's good however that Kyle got to deal with his past and I sorely hope that it is over and done with. On the other hand I don't want him to turn into this one dimensional allpowerful being, like the ending of this issue indicated. That was a sweet scene however, when Major Force tries to deck him and then he just dissipated. For once I can appreciate Tochini's art.
The BIG revelation that has come out of this issue is the fact that Kyle is now linked to the Starheart which is a pretty decent developement in my opinion and I hope we get to see him use his powers already.
The other big revelation is that Hal considers Kyle to be his friend! WOW!

[Darthphere]

Edit!

[LadyVader]

This week.

[TheCorpulent1]

The issue felt pretty boring to me. It was all exposition of stuff we already knew. Kyle's changing, he's got access to the Starheart and the CPB now, Hal's a douchebag, blah, blah, blah. The Kilowog/Salakk scene at the beginning was the best part for me.

[IzzyJG99]

What I don't get it is......if Kilowog, John and Kyle were pretty much the last Lanterns and, went on to train new laterns...how come they're still treated like lowly newbies?

[TheCorpulent1]

Where have they been treated like lowly newbies? Kilowog's basically the Guardians' man on the streets, keeping the entire Corps running smoothly. John's patrolling the sector he was meant to patrol from the beginning. Kyle's working through his transformation into something more than just a Green Lantern. :confused:

[kiuju2k]

I don't see how him having the power of the starheart and cpb make him the strongest in the dcu like they were say in during IC. If somebody can point that out to me i'm all ears.

[Darthphere]

Issue wasnt that boring to me, it seems like a lot of exposition, but overall I can tell this will be ramping up next issue.

[IzzyJG99]

I don't see how him having the power of the starheart and cpb make him the strongest in the dcu like they were say in during IC. If somebody can point that out to me i'm all ears.

As Ion with access to not just the Central Power Battery, but the Starheart Kyle is rather powerful. Think of it this way. The Lanterns use willpower of their own to construct objects out of the Central Power Battery collective willpower energy of all living things. That's creating objects within reality. The Starheart magic is the same, but magic. Combine all that power together and Kyle can essentially allow him to warp reality. I think when he was Ion before...Kyle was able to cross vast distances of Space in the blink of an eye. He was omnipotent.

If Kyle wanted to he could create a construct that's more than just physical in it's similarity to the real thing. He could, if he wanted to, create a pencil. It just wouldn't be some green translucent penicl, but one he willed to be totally real.

At least that's how I see it all.

Personally I think the Guardians are blocking the others from helping Kyle because he's supposed to be alone and figure stuff out in preperation for something that only Ion/Green Lantern Kyle can stop. I've always liked Kyle Rayner. He's kind of a great character to be a Lantern. The fact he's this artist who can create an entire army of green construct Mechas makes him interesting. I see him as kind of the Anti-Green Lantern. Lanterns are supposed to be full of Will, but Kyle I never saw that way. It's like his massive amount of creativity overules the requirements for Will power. I think that makes him all the more powerful than other Lanterns. Plus he's got so much battle experience when he was THE only lantern.

[Darthphere]

This issue reminded me a lot of Empire Strikes Back and the cave scene on Dagobah.

[Anubis]

Yeah, me too.

[Hush]

SO I hope we get some awesome interaction between Hal and Kyle, because honestly I want Hal to just be FORCED to step out of Kyle's way. Yes I want to see Kyle own Hal because Hal tries to stop Kyle from doing what he is doing. Which is something that has purpose and meaning and hal is to stubborn to see this, because if the guardians arent interfering than there is no reason for Hal too and Kyle see's that. I would like this to happen next Issue.

[IzzyJG99]

SO I hope we get some awesome interaction between Hal and Kyle, because honestly I want Hal to just be FORCED to step out of Kyle's way. Yes I want to see Kyle own Hal because Hal tries to stop Kyle from doing what he is doing. Which is something that has purpose and meaning and hal is to stubborn to see this, because if the guardians arent interfering than there is no reason for Hal too and Kyle see's that. I would like this to happen next Issue.

Hal Jordan=Greatest Green Lantern of them all.
Kyle Rayner=A God who wields the power of the CPB and Starheart.

[Hush]

It would be a good fight, would it not?

[GoldenAgeHero]

i was interested in kyle rayner right up until this ion crap popped up. now he's my least favorite. im just not digging this direction at all.

[supes_el]

Well after 2 lame issues, this is finally starting to pick up. This issue was a lot more readable than the first 2 and it actually goes somewhere. I think its going to get interesting from here.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Kyle's so emo.

[BrianWilly]

My thoughts on this from the Bought/Thought thread...

Ion #3
Okay so it reads a little cliche, "When dead girlfriends attack!", but then you consider that Kyle's had three dead girlfriends and it becomes a bit more charming and almost necessary. I liked the fact that Marz likened all of Kyle's costume changes to his girlfriends of the month. The whole "history of the character dream intervention" thing is not really anything that we haven't seen before, but it works. A character like Kyle Rayner is much less about the subtext and much more about the, uh, text. Marz also sets up a nice scene which reveals that Kyle's really not afraid of new powers or anything -- getting new powers is what he's done forever now, and he's way used to it -- but afraid of what this new powers would do to people around him considering what his powers have always done to people around him. It's ridiculously simple and straightforward pathos but again, Kyle's never been overly complicated. It's when you overwhelm him with layers upon layers of psychoses and angst and subtleties that the character loses his charm.

(7 out of 10)

[yenaled]

I agree with Brian.

I thought the issue really highlighted Kyle, his past, what he would feel by having three girlfriends die on him and showing him moving beyond the fearful rookie.

I also loved the start with Kilowog/Salakk. I liked. "We owe him that... we all do" and "If you hadn't done it, I would have."

I also liked the fact that Mogo is helping Kyle sort his mind out a bit more, when Kyle did the exact same thing for Mogo back at the end of Winicks run.

[Mister J]

#3 was much welcomed after the first two issues kinda dragged. Good moments with Kyle experienced the physical form of his fears and regret. The accompanying uniform changes were a nice touch. We should get some good stuff in #4. I'm looking forward to the interaction with Hal and Kyle.

[Darthphere]

I really liked #3 as well, probably my favorite issue so far, but I can see why people didnt like it.

[kiuju2k]

Still i don't follow his being as uber powerful as the previous ion by having access to the starheart. So if we gave alan or jade a power ring they would be as powerful as Kyle? I would like to think he would be more than that ya know. I mean hes had access to all of the power of the cpb and he did incredible feats. Right now i'm not seeing it i mean i know the starheart is a massive collection of magic the guardians gathered and only 2 people actually have access to it but, still it doesn't seem like it would make him the strongest of them all. Or at least as strong as the previous ion or anywhere near it.
I just wanted more out it. Some other type of power besides the obvious.

[BrianWilly]

I think of it like this: if you gave Alan Scott a power ring, he's still stuck to either using his own Starheart power or the Central Power Battery power one at a time. It's not as if he's combining the two powers into a greater power, he's just using two different rings separately that pretty much do the same things anyway. Kyle is literally combining the two, using one form of energy concurrently with another and not in addition to, and who knows what the result will be. I loathe to use this example more than anyone could possibly know, but it's like fusion from Dragonball Zhttp://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif; two powerful fighters attacking someone at once isn't as powerful as if the power of the two fighters were contained within one being.

At least, that's how I see it right now with what little info we're given; the power of Ion could turn out to be something completely different, after all.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm kind of wondering if Kyle is actually turning into a Guardian-level being. Maybe he'll join the little blue men's ranks by the time this is all over. I hope that's not the case, though. Kyle's place should be out adventuring.

[Darthphere]

And banging soon to be dead chicks.

[TheCorpulent1]

Seriously, Kyle and Daredevil's penises must have poison tips or something.

[Tarnish]

I just got my own copy of Ion #3, and while I almost dropped it on #1, it has continued to get better and better, especially the art IMO. I love the fact that some of the Lanterns are pulling a runaround the Guardians and using Hal to do it. :) As for Kyle, given all the dead girlfriends in the past, it is amazing he's held together so well

[The Leaguer]

It's because he's awesome.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Omit the emo thing.

[The Leaguer]

There is no emo thing.

[LouFerignoDemon]

No, he's the emo structuroid.

[The Leaguer]

No emo.

[yenaled]

http://www.dc-comics.com/media/covers/6074_400x600.jpg

Radu finally gets a cover :D

[BrianWilly]

Hell yeah, Radu's back. One of the best things about getting old writers of a character to write about the character is all that nostalgia you get.

[OA blaster]

RADU looks old in it

[LouFerignoDemon]

http://www.dc-comics.com/media/covers/6074_400x600.jpg

Radu finally gets a cover :D

Look at him being all emo. "I'm so emo. They won't like me. I think I'll hang out over here looking all dark and misunderstood."

*Loves to slander Leaguer's main squeeze.*

[Darthphere]

Ion is so gangsta, make this the main title and cancel GL.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Ion is so gangsta, make this the main title and cancel GL.

But that would make sense.

[Darthphere]

Fiscal sense? No. Gangsta sense? Yes.

[LadyVader]

Hey. Radu!!! I remember his menu. It had "mamaliga" on it.
Heh.

Is that guy standing next to him with the beard Effigy or am I just asking to much of Marz? :D

[OA blaster]

Hey. Radu!!! I remember his menu. It had "mamaliga" on it.
Heh.

Is that guy standing next to him with the beard Effigy or am I just asking to much of Marz? :D

asking too much

[sethcohen]

issue 4 rocks... thats all ill say... it rocks so hard...

[LadyVader]

Is issue 4 out today!?

[sethcohen]

yes it is my dear

[LadyVader]

Thank you sweetie.

Must. Get. My. Kyle. Fix. :)

[sethcohen]

not sure if youll be surprised, but youll be like "whoa"

[lceman]

Can someone please explain who that was at the end of Ion #4?? Not Klye the other guy.

[Hush]

Damn im going to get the book right now!!!! Sethcohen you are making me remove myself from my computerchair before I want to!!!!

[sethcohen]

iceman use spoiler tags

i was purposely vague not to ruin it for everyone... you wanna know PM me

[lceman]

I was also purposely vague in my response as to not spoil it for anyone. Thats why I said other guy and not his name.

[Hush]

Edit
Sorry if I spoiled the end for anybody!!!! I was just answering his Question. Icemans.

[Green Lantern]

Holy damn! I didn't see that coming :D F**KING AWESOME. The art's gotten a crapton better, and the story is great :up:

[BrianWilly]

Oh, there's about to be all kinds of badass up in here.

As soon as I saw that yellow demonish thing on the cover of #5, I'd suspected Alex Nero. He's an obvious choice given his connection to the former power of Ion...but, on the other hand, it was almost too obvious. Too unsubtle. We'll see how it plays out, but I'm definitely on board.

Interestingly, Alex Nero isn't even a Marz villain; he was Judd Winick's creation. It just goes to show how well-versed Marz is in Kyle's history and how much he's willing to respect that.

It was actually a tad disappointing just how little actually happened in this issue. Kyle and Hal fight, we find out it wasn't Kyle, and then the real Kyle appears. In a way I almost wish it had been the real Kyle and not an imposter, so that those scenes would have carried a bit more relevancy to the character. But again, we'll see how this all works out.

(7.8 out of 10)

[sethcohen]

im really curious to see what the guardians are up to... this is pretty much all their doing it seems...

[LadyVader]

@BrianWilly
What relevancy? That he STILL feels he's in Jordan's shadow after all this this time. That so far he hasn't learned that it isn't about power, it's about willpower? During that fight I kept thinking come on, Kyle, you're better then this. And I was right.
I actually thought Kyle was somehow being controlled by Major Force... This is much much better.
:)

[sethcohen]

didnt i tell ya LV?

[LadyVader]

Oh yes. :) I think the issue works because we saw what Nero can do... now we're gonna see what Kyle can do. And I have a feeling it will blow everyone away.

Oh, and do you think that last line: "now it gets interesting" is some kind of throwback to the first thing that Kyle ever said after putting on the ring: "I have a feeling my life just got more interesting"? Or is that just a coincidence? :)

[sethcohen]

its odd... i was thinking it to myself and then he said it in the book...

[Hush]

Man That was the best comic I bought!!!! And I bought about 10. I love this series so much it is easily one of the best things DC has going for it if not the best thing. I Love Kyle!!!! He is the coolest.

[RAMORE]

I got issue 1 but i have to catch up

[sethcohen]

i hope we get an ongoing after this maxi is up... or that it just gets promoted to ongoing outright...

[Hush]

Yeah that would be amazingness at its best.

[sethcohen]

as long as marz stays of course...

[Hush]

Well Of course but I wouldnt mind if Tocchini left, though he is good on the book, I just think that a superstar artist would just make the book sell more and it would totally own to haev Amazing art and Amazing story. It could easily be in the Top 5 if it isnt already.

[sethcohen]

Kalman Andraszofsky should so pick up interiors...

[BrianWilly]

@BrianWilly
What relevancy? That he STILL feels he's in Jordan's shadow after all this this time. That so far he hasn't learned that it isn't about power, it's about willpower? During that fight I kept thinking come on, Kyle, you're better then this. And I was right.
I actually thought Kyle was somehow being controlled by Major Force... This is much much better.
:)I agree totally, much of the dialogue in that scene didn't fit Kyle at all and pretty much the only way to excuse it is by the "IMPOSTER!!!!!!!!" route. On the other hand...I kinda had the sense of "Wait, so what was the point of all that?" after having read the issue, which I know doesn't make sense since there was a lot of point narratively, but still.

[Hush]

Could it be that the person that was the imposter was well ION the whole time we have been reading this and Kyle has been on MOGO since the beginning?????

[sethcohen]

i think it was kyle on earth and mogo, and alex wreaking havok across the universe

[Hush]

When was Kyle on earth? If that was 1st issue then I dont have it, I missed it. But yeah your pretty much in line with my theory.

[BrianWilly]

He was on Earth during the first two issues.

[Hush]

O thanks, Ill go back and read issue 2 I got no prob with that.

[sethcohen]

i went back and reread 1-4... things are making more sense now...

[Miss Webb]

Wait, I just thought of something. Considering what's happened to Jade, does this mean NERO'S responsible for her death? (absorbing power). If so, will Alan find out and go after NERO?????

[sethcohen]

who knows... too soon to speculate...

[onceasaint]

Damn Guardians, always up to something.


I dont know why but the more I read Ion the more he feels like he is becoming DC's Silver Surfer, just without the board.

[LadyVader]

and without the "woe is me" atitude. :)

[sethcohen]

and without the other cosmic gift: the cosmic suck

[onceasaint]

Yeah, Kyle gets emo enough without that being put on him too.

[sethcohen]

dude... id be emo too if my GF had her body stuffed into a frige by a psychotic villain youd be emo too... and thats just GF death numero uno... im sure he stared dating super chicks thinking, oh they wont die, they can protect themselves hahahahah boy was he wrong!

[onceasaint]

dude... id be emo too if my GF had her body stuffed into a frige by a psychotic villain youd be emo too... and thats just GF death numero uno... im sure he stared dating super chicks thinking, oh they wont die, they can protect themselves hahahahah boy was he wrong!

If my gf was stuffed into a fridge by a psychotic villain Id just have a fear of popsicles.

-opens the freezer- "OH GOD ITS A HUMAN HEA.... Oh no, wait, thats just the Turkey for Thanksgiving.... ooo frozen pizza bagels" -slams freezer door-

[sethcohen]

could you imagine like months later, cuz its a guys frige so he just does a half assed job of cleaning it, he finds like an eyeball in his rice pudding or something? wow... just wow

[LouFerignoDemon]

dude... id be emo too if my GF had her body stuffed into a frige by a psychotic villain youd be emo too... and thats just GF death numero uno... im sure he stared dating super chicks thinking, oh they wont die, they can protect themselves hahahahah boy was he wrong!

To be emo is to be selfish. When someone's emo, they basically assume a person's, or people's lives somehow revolve around them.

"Why does everybody hate me? Why do they always pick on me? Why can't they leave me alone? Why is it always me?" Like fate somehow chose them to be special.

[LadyVader]

Well, fate did choose Kyle to be special. Ergo, he's not emo no matter what he does. :)

[sethcohen]

that and he doenst blow goats... not blowing goats makes kyle rock hard in my book

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, fate did choose Kyle to be special. Ergo, he's not emo no matter what he does. :)

lol Only if fate chooses that if a girl is related to Kyle, they must die. And so far, Kyle has been seemingly deemed so. :(

[onceasaint]

could you imagine like months later, cuz its a guys frige so he just does a half assed job of cleaning it, he finds like an eyeball in his rice pudding or something? wow... just wow

If Kyle is anything like me, he used the ring to take the fridge out to the curb and bought a new one or he learned to just scoop out the bits of his ex that got on his food.

[onceasaint]

To be emo is to be selfish. When someone's emo, they basically assume a person's, or people's lives somehow revolve around them.

"Why does everybody hate me? Why do they always pick on me? Why can't they leave me alone? Why is it always me?" Like fate somehow chose them to be special.

If Kyle was that bad.. I think Mogo would have hurt him something fierce. Mogo must have had a migraine from when SBP crashed on him and kept screaching like a little howler monkey.

[TheCorpulent1]

Wait, I just thought of something. Considering what's happened to Jade, does this mean NERO'S responsible for her death? (absorbing power). If so, will Alan find out and go after NERO?????
I don't think Nero absorbed anything from Jade. That was actually Kyle in IC. Nero's just taken the opportunity right now to impersonate Kyle, it seems. His extra power is nothing new; he's always been shown as being more powerful than the best of the Lanterns. Kyle and Alan Scott both had a lot of trouble against him when he first appeared.

I hope Alan does appear at some point in the mini, though. Given how Kyle gained his extra power and the fact that Alan was always a mentor figure for Kyle, the story's just begging for an Alan cameo. Although I'm certainly not averse to Hal sticking around for many more ass-kickings, too. :)

[yenaled]

I have to say I was thinking Marz wouldn't use Nero seeing as he didn't create him, but I'm so glad that he obviously follows and embraces Kyle's past and villains and is using Nero. It was a great reveal.

[The Leaguer]

The Nero part caught me off-guard, and it was great. I pray this gets an on-going.

[Darthphere]

Ion should replace Green Lantern.

[The Leaguer]

Only as long as Marz replaces Johns.

[Anubis]

Just read it. Shocked the hell out of me. Looking back, at the constructs he made, I should have known all along.

[The Leaguer]

Marz is the man.

[Anubis]

Eh, he's okay.

[The Leaguer]

I thought I told you to shut up.

[Darthphere]

Only as long as Marz replaces Johns.


No, I mean the Ion title should just all out replace GL.

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, maybe Reis could take over for Toccini. :o

[The Leaguer]

No, I mean the Ion title should just all out replace GL.
I know, just as long as Marz goes with it.

[Darthphere]

Well, maybe Reis could take over for Toccini. :o


No thanks.

[TheCorpulent1]

You actually prefer Toccini's abstractions to Reis' clear, detailed, and expressive art? :confused:

[Darthphere]

Yes.

[The Leaguer]

Toccini's art was great this issue, I though.

[The Watchman]

You actually prefer Toccini's abstractions to Reis' clear, detailed, and expressive art? :confused:

I actually like them both.

[Darthphere]

I actually like them both.


:up:

[LadyVader]

I think Toccini's art works for this particular story, but I doubt I would like it in any other comic book. This style seems a bit more artsy, and given that Kyle is an artist, I think the combination works.

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't stand how it seems Toccini's incapable of drawing Kyle's symbol consistently. It looks like two glowing blobs rather than a stylized lantern. Same problems I had with him on Thor: Son of Asgard, really. I keep reading each issue of Ion and thinking of how much better it would be with another artist.

[Darthphere]

I think Toccini's art works for this particular story, but I doubt I would like it in any other comic book. This style seems a bit more artsy, and given that Kyle is an artist, I think the combination works.


:up: Yup, Corp likes to complain a lot.

[The Leaguer]

I think he did it on purpose. Ion's costume is constantly changing because he was losing control. Now that Kyle's finally gotten his head straight, I'm thinking it will become consistent.

[Hush]

That would be cool to see.

[LadyVader]

:up: Yup, Corp likes to complain a lot.

A romanian writer once said:
"There is great drama in reason"
:)

Which I guess is the reverse of "Ignorance is bliss". :O

[TheCorpulent1]

I think he did it on purpose. Ion's costume is constantly changing because he was losing control. Now that Kyle's finally gotten his head straight, I'm thinking it will become consistent.
Looking back on his Thor art, I laugh at the very notion. He's an inconsistent artist, plain and simple.

[The Watchman]

I think Toccini's art works for this particular story, but I doubt I would like it in any other comic book. This style seems a bit more artsy, and given that Kyle is an artist, I think the combination works.

See, that's how I feel. His style is almost perfect for this story but put him on Superman or something of the sort and I'd be the first to complain. Though I really dug his sequence with Kyle on earth at that art retreat. I dunno, I guess I'm just happy that I dig it because I'm really enjoying this series.

[Darthphere]

Plain and simple, his art fits the style and mood of the book. While Reis, who pretty much just draws generic superheroes wouldnt.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not arguing that, I just wish he could clean his style up a bit and not alternate between solid work and deformed, abstract messes.

[Darthphere]

I'm not arguing that, I just wish he could clean his style up a bit and not alternate between solid work and deformed, abstract messes.


I guess, youre thinking of something like he did in #2? Thats probably his best issue art wise.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, there was one issue that looked great all the way through. The lantern symbol was still kind of wonky, but nowhere near as bad as some other issues. I think it was either #2 or #3.

[Darthphere]

#3 was the one on Mogo where he saw all his dead ho's, that one?

[TheCorpulent1]

No, it'd be #2, then.

[Hush]

Well the next ish comes out tom. so im bumping this thread for everyone. No I dont want recognition im just so excited that the hype is back I feel like doing a whole bunch of favors.

[Darthphere]

Cant wait, great mini so far, better than *cough*GL*cough*

[Hush]

You can say that I dont even buy the book (GL) but I can smell the stench of it everytime I pass it. Either that or that is the stench of the fat guy who is sweating way to much over the recent issue of Girls.

[The Watchman]

The art's great though - ****ing Ivan Reis could be this generation's Neal Adams.

[Hush]

I never really diss art I can actually put up with a crap story if the art is good. Its just personal taste. But I also dont like buying something I wont enjoy because it is that bad.

[Hush]

I just have to say that this issue was so freakin amazing!!! I loved it Kyle was made into an ultimate badass in this issue. There was some neat Kyle and Hal interaction in this ish, something we havent see a whole lot of, or I havent seen alot of. It was really a good issue.

[Green Lantern]

Awesome issue. The Kyle + Hal v Nero fight was badass! :up:

[Mister J]

The guy at my LCS said I'd be disappointed with this ish. After reading it, I don't feel that way at all. I could see how the buddy-buddy/playful banter between Hal and Kyle could put some people off, but there were some nice constructs in the Nero battle and there's a good set-up for this 'plan' the Guardians have for Kyle. Some attention was also paid to how ridiculously powerful Ion is. Not a bad book at all.

I'm interested in how the thing with the Thanagarian bounty hunter that Kyle tangled with earlier in the mini plays out. We got a little tease of the fallout today.

[Hush]

Awesome issue. The Kyle + Hal v Nero fight was badass! :up:

It was more of a, "Hal tried to attack Nero and got hit in the mouth and Kyle came in and wiped the floor with Nero", than a Hal and Kyle team up. LOL But I also hate Hal.

[supes_el]

good issue...we are now getting somewhere with the story unlike the first 3 issues..i will be reading the next issue :)

EDIt: unlime

[Darthphere]

unlime?

[yenaled]

I thought the last issue was terrific and so much fun.

Basically a huge fight, but it was cool as hell to see Kyle assert himself over Nero. A little showing of how powerful Kyle has become.

Ron Marz just writes such a good Kyle and the character is so much more interesting than Hal.

I even like Hal in this issue, Hal through Kyle's eyes is a better character than Hal through his own.

[Darthphere]

Yeah, the issue was solid good fun.

[supes_el]

unlime?
Yea you know...unlime...looks like a lime, but then again it doesnt :)
I meant unlike

[The Leaguer]

Incredible issue.

[BrianWilly]

Ion #6
And again..."Hmm."

As much as I liked this issue -- and make no mistake, I really did like it -- there's a part of me going "That's it?" 'Cause really, I mean...is that it? The big revelation? The Guardians acted smarmy and secretive for all this time in order to protect a secret that...well...it just doesn't seem like it really needed to be kept secret at all. It's not very clandestine. It's not all that surprising. The power of Ion turns out to be pretty much the exact thing that it was made out to be in an earlier issue, just with some fine print. It just feels like Kyle was told "You know that thing you were for all this time? Well, guess what? Now you are that SAME EXACT THING...but a little different!" The whole Alex Nero impersonation thing wasn't even close to being explained, since it turns out to have had nothing to do with the Guardians at all.

On the other hand, as much as I'd fault it for not really working...in reality, it works. It makes sense. I mean, it's not clandestine or whatever for the very reason that it seems obvious in retrospect. It's a straightforward, blunt, almost traditional position for Kyle to be taking, and ergo logical. As I've said before, Kyle Rayner as a character works best when he's straightforward and uncomplicated; there's no great secret to his inner logic, no hidden complex demons just waiting to plot-twist us at the last second. It's when you try to make him all those things -- complicatedly melodramatic, hard to figure out, needlessly weighted down by angst -- that he becomes a chore to read about.

So while I'm a little disappointed that the big secret seems to be not that big a secret, I'm still enjoying the series and can't wait for the next arc.

(7 out of 10)

[LadyVader]

^ Exactly. After the Guardians finished explaining I was like:
"A-ha. Aaaaaaand..."

Still. Have to say that I'm loving Kyle's characterization! It's seems like he's his old self again. The character I fell in love with in the first place. He's back to doing more creative constructs, he's a widdle bit cheeky. I just loved how he got rid of that bounty hunter:D. And oh yeah!
RADU! Radu has been mentioned again! That romanian caffeinated beacon of light in the dark damp universe of DC. :D

[Darthphere]

Ion #6
And again..."Hmm."

As much as I liked this issue -- and make no mistake, I really did like it -- there's a part of me going "That's it?" 'Cause really, I mean...is that it? The big revelation? The Guardians acted smarmy and secretive for all this time in order to protect a secret that...well...it just doesn't seem like it really needed to be kept secret at all. It's not very clandestine. It's not all that surprising. The power of Ion turns out to be pretty much the exact thing that it was made out to be in an earlier issue, just with some fine print. It just feels like Kyle was told "You know that thing you were for all this time? Well, guess what? Now you are that SAME EXACT THING...but a little different!" The whole Alex Nero impersonation thing wasn't even close to being explained, since it turns out to have had nothing to do with the Guardians at all.

On the other hand, as much as I'd fault it for not really working...in reality, it works. It makes sense. I mean, it's not clandestine or whatever for the very reason that it seems obvious in retrospect. It's a straightforward, blunt, almost traditional position for Kyle to be taking, and ergo logical. As I've said before, Kyle Rayner as a character works best when he's straightforward and uncomplicated; there's no great secret to his inner logic, no hidden complex demons just waiting to plot-twist us at the last second. It's when you try to make him all those things -- complicatedly melodramatic, hard to figure out, needlessly weighted down by angst -- that he becomes a chore to read about.

So while I'm a little disappointed that the big secret seems to be not that big a secret, I'm still enjoying the series and can't wait for the next arc.

(7 out of 10)

I dont know, I dont think weve gotten the full story yet.

[yenaled]

I'm curious to know if Kyle is the "restart button" for the corps. Then is he immortal?

[Varient]

I'm curious to know if Kyle is the "restart button" for the corps. Then is he immortal?
I expect he is.


When you consider the "power" of the ring - aging becomes "an option" for every lantern.
At the LEAST the power can keep reseting the age of the user to whatever age they prefer,... and if you take the power away,.. they restart aging at whatever point they tweaked themself to.

This opens a door to the idea of "kid Lantern".

You have one of the Earth Lanterns be damaged in some way that requires them to deage themselve to save their life.

I suggest one of the senior three,.... "ION" just dried his ears.

Heh if it were John Stewart,.... that means he'd be running with the Outsiders or the Teen Titans.

I see Guy Gardner becoming a Rapper.

I see Hal Jordan taking over the Teen Titans,....


(Open Laughter)

[LouFerignoDemon]

Ion #6
And again..."Hmm."

As much as I liked this issue -- and make no mistake, I really did like it -- there's a part of me going "That's it?" 'Cause really, I mean...is that it? The big revelation? The Guardians acted smarmy and secretive for all this time in order to protect a secret that...well...it just doesn't seem like it really needed to be kept secret at all. It's not very clandestine. It's not all that surprising. The power of Ion turns out to be pretty much the exact thing that it was made out to be in an earlier issue, just with some fine print. It just feels like Kyle was told "You know that thing you were for all this time? Well, guess what? Now you are that SAME EXACT THING...but a little different!" The whole Alex Nero impersonation thing wasn't even close to being explained, since it turns out to have had nothing to do with the Guardians at all.

On the other hand, as much as I'd fault it for not really working...in reality, it works. It makes sense. I mean, it's not clandestine or whatever for the very reason that it seems obvious in retrospect. It's a straightforward, blunt, almost traditional position for Kyle to be taking, and ergo logical. As I've said before, Kyle Rayner as a character works best when he's straightforward and uncomplicated; there's no great secret to his inner logic, no hidden complex demons just waiting to plot-twist us at the last second. It's when you try to make him all those things -- complicatedly melodramatic, hard to figure out, needlessly weighted down by angst -- that he becomes a chore to read about.

So while I'm a little disappointed that the big secret seems to be not that big a secret, I'm still enjoying the series and can't wait for the next arc.

(7 out of 10)

I sat there and thought that was the ****tiest revelation in ALL of comics. Even worse than Hal being controlled by Parralax ****ty. The frickin Guardians of the Universe's big bad reason to allow Kyle to have all this power is simply to be there when the Corps. breaks down again? If three lanterns were capable of shutting down Parralax (though one Parralax controlled Hal Jordan basically killed the entire Corps.), then one Ion should be MORE than enough to keep the Corps. alive and well without the need for a torchbearer.

[Hush]

I absolutly loved the idea of making Kyle the secret agent of the corps. It makes so much sense but notice they said that he has a spark of the guardians in him which means that he is most likly going to be immortal and could theoretically be more powerful than them.

Spark of Guardians + Normal Gl powers + Starheart Magic = Damn near god like Kyle.

Since he was the Torch Bearer when the corps went under he truly is the perfect person for this job and he deserves it. After all the **** he has gone through he deserves to have a good life for a bit and if a threat that is Universe threatening comes about, like the guardians said, then you have ION right there. HE is to be called upon when he is needed for the "big job". Im assuming a threat that would be noted as Ion worthy would prolly be a Emoboy level threat, this opens up the possibilities for new Epic stories like non-other.

[Darthphere]

With another 6 issues left, I like how you all already assume that this is the final revelation.

[Mister J]

No way that's the big whoop-to-do. Those damn Guardians are sneaky. Like my great-grandpappy used to say, there's a rooster in the henhouse. :up:

[Hush]

With another 6 issues left, I like how you all already assume that this is the final revelation.

No I dont assume that this is the final Revelation to the series. Do i think that this is the revelation for these 1st 6 issues, yes i most certainly do. I think the first 6 were about why Kyle has become ION and his destiny. The next 6 will focus on Nero and the plot to make Kyle look bad. I also said all of that with the Hope that this will become an ongoing, something i believe will happen.

[LadyVader]

The biggest problem with Ion becoming a monthly is that now Kyle is so powerful, they won't know what to do with him, what challenges to throw his way every single month.

What I liked most about this issue is the fact that the first thing Kyle wanted to do after he found out that he had more power then any Green Lantern is to reconnect with his friends on earth... to reconnect with his humanity. That for me has always been the main draw to this character.

[LadyVader]

Ion #7

featuring, Effigy! Sure makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that Effigy made it out allright, and he's still alive somewhere, causing trouble. Even if I never get to see him again. :( Either way, this was a terrific issue. Radu's back. Allan called Kyle his son. I really didn't need that last page, since it felt like a cheap trick to get readers to come back next month. To me the issue was perfect just like it was.
Chock full of some good honest emotion.:) The art however is screwey, again.

[The Leaguer]

I bet Geoff Johns hates this series, because it reminds him of how better Marz is at writing Green Lanterns than he.

[BrianWilly]

This issue was pretty much a big sloppy tongue-kiss to fans of Kyle's old series...or I should say, fans of Kyle's old series before it turned to ass. Not a whole lot happens and there's perhaps more rehashing of stuff than there should be, but you can't fault it 'cause it's so gosh-darned filled with actual emotion and genuine character moments and stuff. I mean, two people sitting down, having coffee, and talking? When's the last time we saw that? Compared to a action-packed issue with stupid fights and cheap shocks and characters acting like asstards or reholes or worse, I'd rather have a slower issue with nice dialogue and characterizations and great portrayals of these mofos we care about. And maybe one or two explosions.

But yeah, I would prefer that the plot gets moving again and we can some more answers. The big "reveal" of the Guardians in the issue before this was pretty unsatisfactory; I desire more:mad:.

Yeah y'know, I really like the idea of Kyle being Alan's son-of-sorts. It kinda makes it like Kyle is Alan's "legacy" as opposed to Hal's, even though he got his powers due to Hal and the Corps and all that. Alan taught him more about being a Green Lantern than Hal ever did. Interesting thing that's really visible from this issue is that Kyle has -- or maybe looks for -- a lot of older male father figures in his life. This makes sense of course, if you know about Kyle's actual history with his father...in a nutshell, it involves epionage:ninja:.

Oh Kyle. I'll be your daddy. You need only ask.

One annoying thing is that it's been seven issues and I still have no idea what the heck Kyle's Ion logo is actually supposed to look like.

[yenaled]

The last Ion issue was perfect, reminded me how excellent GL was when Kyle was the star.

[Darthphere]

Radu son, FTW!

[LadyVader]

What would've been even better is if Radu served Kyle with some...
mamaliga!
http://www.loulisgroup.ro/assets/Image/poza%20mamaliga.jpg

:D

Hey, no love for Effigy? :( If nothing else, he has a great name.

[LanternFan]

One annoying thing is that it's been seven issues and I still have no idea what the heck Kyle's Ion logo is actually supposed to look like.

Looks to me like a stylized rising sun. Sort of half lantern, half star(heart.)

Everybody with me?

I just don't like the star speckled black parts a-la Donna Troy.

[yenaled]

This week sucks because Green Lantern is out but Ion isn't there to counter the crappyness.