im not so sure i Trust Nolan anymore now that Goyer's Not there!

[RobinluvsBabs]

Goyer is a Comic Loyalist, who sometimes had to put his Foot down and Reign Nolan in, like the stories of Nolan not wanting Scarecrow to have a mask & Goyer saying No, Half to Have the Mask. who the hell will reign him in now? if he puts forth another stupid idea like that? his brother? yeah right. how do we even know Jonathan Nolan even really knows anything about batman???! Color me Concerned. If they can't get goyer back they Need Paul Dini Or Kevin Smith as some sort of Consultant or Myth Preservationist.

[El Payaso]

Goyer made the worst one liners ever. And worse, he made a lot.

I trust Nolan more now that he's gone.

[wikum]

same here. unlike others i dont mind if they do stuff completly different from the comics if the actual characters act the same and have the same goals.

[Babs Gordon]

whats up andre... it's been what, a day? did kittypryde get banned that quickly?

[RobinluvsBabs]

Goyer made the worst one liners ever. And worse, he made a lot.

I trust Nolan more now that he's gone.no he didnt that's just your perception, he did good batman needs some humor it, not camp humor, but regular humor and he did fine with that, and i trust Nolan LESS that goyer's gone.

[RobinluvsBabs]

whats up andre... it's been what, a day? did kittypryde get banned that quickly?yeah and i dont even know why? just woke up and couldn't get through i was like wtf? babs u have always been my fave on here.:)

[RobinluvsBabs]

same here. unlike others i dont mind if they do stuff completly different from the comics if the actual characters act the same and have the same goals.im not down with that doing things Completely different From the Comic Books Nonsense, i dont mind slight Alterations, But Stay 98 percent faithful to the source Material!:mad:

[El Payaso]

no he didnt that's just your perception, he did good batman needs some humor it, not camp humor, but regular humor and he did fine with that, and i trust Nolan LESS that goyer's gone.

MY perception? Have you read any of the threads here?

[DorkyFresh]

Christopher Nolan, along with his brother (Jonathan), wrote Memento...

...they're both writing Batman 2. Goyer wrote and directed Blade 3....

Nuff Said.

[RobinluvsBabs]

Christopher Nolan, along with his brother (Jonathan), wrote Memento...

...they're both writing Batman 2. Goyer wrote and directed Blade 3....

Nuff Said.no you're pretty Clueless just Because his brother wrote memento doesnt mean he knows a thing about batman.

[Anjow1060]

is Spiderfreddie back already? geez

Well, in keeping with the thread, i actually agree, we needed Goyer. Especially now, if anyone needs some good one liners, it's the Joker.

[RobinluvsBabs]

is Spiderfreddie back already? geez

Well, in keeping with the thread, i actually agree, we needed Goyer. Especially now, if anyone needs some good one liners, it's the Joker.Agree Wholeheartedly!:up:

[El Payaso]

He can always read the comics. At least he has the writing skills. That's not something you just get by osmosis.

[chosen1]

Ummm Goyer's gone
when did this happen?:eek:

[RobinluvsBabs]

Ummm Goyer's gone
when did this happen?:eek: i think they siad that he's just written the outline treatment of what's going to happen, and the basic characters, but hes not writing the script this time!(sigh)

[El Payaso]

So the best of Goyer stays. The structure.

The obvious dialogues and corney lines are gone.

[RobinluvsBabs]

So the best of Goyer stays. The structure.

The obvious dialogues and corney lines are gone.the dialouge was good it was Just youre Perception, and every film needs a corny line once in a while to Break the seriousness of a situation, get over it

[TheGrayGhost]

Goyer made the worst one liners ever. And worse, he made a lot.

I trust Nolan more now that he's gone.

Eh. Past Batman movies have had much more and much worse.

I would like Goyer to have an important role in the making of the film. And it appears that he does.

[Hades]

Goyer's gone!? yaaaay

[spdrknight]

I don't think we should start judging just yet. Nolan is still working on Prestige, not a lot of decisions have been made in regards to Batman 2. Nolan may surprise some people who think he is going to do a complete 180 with the material. Let's give him and his brother some time before we start kicking them. Who knows, there might be a consultant on set that knows a lot about Batman and can quide Nolan if things get a little turned. We don't know.

[chosen1]

Is goyer the one that made Ras and Ducard the same person??

[CConn]

freddie is worried losing Goyer will render the film inaccurate. However, most inaccuracies (changes to origins, motivations, etc.) would be present all the way back to the treatment which Goyer wrote himself. So, freddie really doesn't have any reason to worry, but he will continue to whine and complain because he's freddie, and freddie is a poopoo head.

[CConn]

Is goyer the one that made Ras and Ducard the same person??Nolan and Goyer developed the story together, so who knows.

[RobinluvsBabs]

freddie is worried losing Goyer will render the film inaccurate. However, most inaccuracies (changes to origins, motivations, etc.) would be present all the way back to the treatment which Goyer wrote himself. So, freddie really doesn't have any reason to worry, but he will continue to whine and complain because he's freddie, and freddie is a poopoo head.oookay but if Nolan did this movie on his own we'd be getting a ScareCrow with No Mask, which is Completetly Stupid!:down

[ragdus]

As if you know that for sure.

[RobinluvsBabs]

As if you know that for sure.yes i know that for sure there were articles with goyer stating, that he put his foot down when nolan, said he didnt think scarecrow should have a mask!!

[CConn]

yes i know that for sure there were articles with goyer stating, that he put his foot down when nolan, said he didnt think scarecrow should have a mask!!I can find you an article that proves President Bush is really a lizard-person from the center of the Earth.

[CConn]

oookay but if Nolan did this movie on his own we'd be getting a ScareCrow with No Mask, which is Completetly Stupid!:downLike your face:up:

[RobinluvsBabs]

Like your face:up:nah i was think pretty much like yours, only one that a mother could love.:rolleyes:

[chosen1]

Maronamia!

Cant we all get along?
Relax:D

[Maxwell Smart]

RobinluvsBabs, what are you? Twelve?

[raybia]

Goyer is a Comic Loyalist, who sometimes had to put his Foot down and Reign Nolan in, like the stories of Nolan not wanting Scarecrow to have a mask & Goyer saying No, Half to Have the Mask. who the hell will reign him in now? if he puts forth another stupid idea like that? his brother? yeah right. how do we even know Jonathan Nolan even really knows anything about batman???! Color me Concerned. If they can't get goyer back they Need Paul Dini Or Kevin Smith as some sort of Consultant or Myth Preservationist.


And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Nolen, Nolen, Nolen! Who do you trust? Goyer? Nolan has given us a new Batman franchise. And where is Goyer? HE'S AT HOME WRITING ABOUT A GUY IN TIGHTS!

[Maxwell Smart]

And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Nolen, Nolen, Nolen! Who do you trust? Goyer? Nolan is giving us a new Batman franchise. And where is Goyer? HE'S AT HOME WRITING ABOUT A GUY IN TIGHTS!

LOL!

*NolAn

Also I can't recall where I heard this but it seems like I heard somewhere that Jonah Nolan is actually a really big comic geek.

[raybia]

Also I can't recall where I heard this but it seems like I heard somewhere that Jonah Nolan is actually a really big comic geek.


I can confirm that.

Forget the Wachoski brothers

The Nolan Brothers are large and in charge!

[Ronny Shade]

Quick! everyone put INSSITNANTGNT in your sig!

[Stringer]

Nolan and Goyer wrote the plot for the sequel so its not like he's totally gone, its just the Nolan brothers are writing the actual script.

[Anjow1060]

Actually, Spiderfreddie has a valid point here. Goyer did talk nolan down from having a scarecrow without a mask. In addition to a Batman without a grappling gun. For all we know we could end up with a black mask.......without a black mask. Or any mask. Sure character trailts are the most important, but physical attributes need to be there as well. Maybe not as "out there" as in the comic books because you can get away with alot more there. But You couldn't have Bruce Wayne running around screaming "Swear to me!" without a batman mask on. Goyer saved us on more important things than diologue. I could trade a one liner or two for a more comic accurate film. Not to mention all the one liners would prolly end up going to Joker anyway.

Me and spiderfreddie don't see eye together on much..........ever........but for once, the dude has a valid point.

[kytrigger]

Actually, Spiderfreddie has a valid point here. Goyer did talk nolan down from having a scarecrow without a mask. In addition to a Batman without a grappling gun. For all we know we could end up with a black mask.......without a black mask. Or any mask. Sure character trailts are the most important, but physical attributes need to be there as well. Maybe not as "out there" as in the comic books because you can get away with alot more there. But You couldn't have Bruce Wayne running around screaming "Swear to me!" without a batman mask on. Goyer saved us on more important things than diologue. I could trade a one liner or two for a more comic accurate film. Not to mention all the one liners would prolly end up going to Joker anyway.

Me and spiderfreddie don't see eye together on much..........ever........but for once, the dude has a valid point.

While it's true that freddie does have a point, it didn't need another thread. It's been discussed in several threads and most recently in the "Now that the Noaln Brothers are writing" thread.

[Anjow1060]

Another valid point.
Boy we are all spot-on today arn't we? Gotta love Fridays.

[kenellard]

*INSITNANTGG*
I'm not sure I trust Nolan anymore now that Goyer's gone!

[Two-Face]

*INSITNANTGG*
I'm not sure I trust Nolan anymore now that Goyer's gone!


Haha! :D

[Ronny Shade]

I made that joke already.




jeez.

[Zilleraut #66]

Christopher Nolan, along with his brother (Jonathan), wrote Memento...

...they're both writing Batman 2. Goyer wrote and directed Blade 3....

Nuff Said.And he knew Blade inside-out. I don't mind Goyer but this is the better way to go.

[chosen1]

And he knew Blade inside-out. I don't mind Goyer but this is the better way to go.

So are you saying blade 3 was'nt good?????:mad:























I agree :D

[DorkyFresh]

no he didnt that's just your perception, he did good batman needs some humor it, not camp humor, but regular humor and he did fine with that, and i trust Nolan LESS that goyer's gone.

in your very own words..."that's just your perception"

im not down with that doing things Completely different From the Comic Books Nonsense, i dont mind slight Alterations, But Stay 98 percent faithful to the source Material!:mad:

so in otherwords.....you want Batman to have a skintight spandex suit with underwear on. 98 precent??? i hope you were exageratting. you will NEVER get an official Batman movie that's 98 percent faithful.

no you're pretty Clueless just Because his brother wrote memento doesnt mean he knows a thing about batman.

scew you, mate. who are you to tell me i'm clueless? you're the one wanting the dude who wrote the God awful script from Blade Trinity! And you don't know Jonathan Nolan DOESN'T know anything about Batman, do you? has it been confirmed that Jonathan never read Batman? no! so quit acting like you know everything and that your opinions are facts.

[Nightwing1977]

I can't believe many are putting down Goyer. Sure he did crap with Blade: Trinity & few others, but not all of the works he done is crap. Without him, BB wouldn't been as good as we wanted. Beside, wasn't Nolan going to make Scarecrow not wore a mask & Goyer told him it important for Scarecrow to have a mask? Funny how one like BB, but hate the guy who one of the reason it turn out so successful & one of the best Batman film ever made. I'm sure Goyer is still involve, but just not like he did with BB.

[kytrigger]

I still believe he will be involved in some way with this film, just not as extensively. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes one of the producers or something along those lines.

[djkris]

Hmm, I don't know how much Goyer's abscense will affect the sequel, but I have faith in Nolan, judging by what I've seen in BB making-ofs and interviews. He knows Batman, I'd dare say, he loves Batman. He is already on the right track, don't worry. :batman:

[Spidey 2007]

dont you guys realize that Nolan probably has learned ALOT ALOT about batman,look at bryan singer, perfect example.....he new jack about x-men, He became a fan after the first, im SURE nolan has a HUGE amount of respectfor bats and will definatly read up if he hasnt already:up:

[Mr. Socko]

Goyer knows the story better then Nolan. He just writes bad one liners. But I was concerned at first since he left.

We don't even know if Chris Nolan's brother is a bat-fan at all.

[blindman]

dont get people worried about that. I'm sure the brothers will do fine

[CConn]

nah i was think pretty much like yours, only one that a mother could love.:rolleyes:You've never seen my face.

I, however, have seen yours.

And, technically, a face that is "oookay but if Nolan did this movie on his own we'd be getting a ScareCrow with No Mask, which is Completetly Stupid!" isn't technically ugly. Technically.

You're being nonsensical.

[Mr. Socko]

And people are saying that Goyer loves one-liners. Well if he stayed on board this would have been his perfect chance to show off all his great one-liners! The Joker is all about a bunch of crazy(sometimes funny) one-liners. So instead of giving the one-liners to Batman, Goyer could have given them all to The Joker.

The Joker without one-liners is not the Joker at all.

[El Payaso]

Why the Joker would need bad one-liners?

[javi1024]

Goyer wrote the treatment, and the Nolans write the script....I have no problem with that.