View Full Version : Was The Way Snipes Played Blade The Way Bale Should Play Batman?
raybia
04-28-2006, 01:08 PM
I loved Bale's performance of Batman, but that was Batman year 1, so he was portrayed as he should have been.
I think his portrayal of Bats in the next movie should be more badass with a "take no-***** attitude, and even come off as a prick at times.
What you think?
drknight
04-28-2006, 01:14 PM
"You ready to roll with this!?!"
http://www.cinenews.gr/v4/batman/images/batmanbegins11.jpg
Ronny Shade
04-28-2006, 01:26 PM
I think Bale's got a good understanding of the character. He knows what hes doing. If he decides to play Batman like that, it'll be the right decision.
Anjow1060
04-28-2006, 01:27 PM
Eh, lets keep with the "animalistic" approach and ix-nay on the Samuel L Jackson philosophy of killin every 1/2 @$$ed muthafugga in da room.
javi1024
04-29-2006, 12:11 PM
yea i like his "inhuman" approach to the character. it really gives the criminals something to fear. plus if Batman gets shot, i dont wanna hear say "Motherf@%! you crazy?!" i HATED that part.
BatJeff7786
04-29-2006, 12:27 PM
yea i like his "inhuman" approach to the character. it really gives the criminals something to fear. plus if Batman gets shot, i dont wanna hear say "Motherf@%! you crazy?!" i HATED that part.He said Wesley Snipes not Samuel L. Jackson..........
The Batman
04-29-2006, 01:20 PM
yeah...except that "Prick" attitude is what was killing the character for years. its only now that its gotten better.
They Should do Jeph Loeb's Batman, with some TAS and Morrison's JLA Bats.
Nightwing
04-29-2006, 01:24 PM
I think Bale's got a good understanding of the character. He knows what hes doing. If he decides to play Batman like that, it'll be the right decision.
Agreed. He's even read some of the novels while filming Begins, to capture both sides of the character. I'm sure he'll do the same while returning for the sequel.
ToddIsDead
04-29-2006, 01:32 PM
yeah...except that "Prick" attitude is what was killing the character for years. its only now that its gotten better.
They Should do Jeph Loeb's Batman, with some TAS and Morrison's JLA Bats.
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ultimatefan
04-29-2006, 02:35 PM
Yeah, itīs a balance, you canīt lose the characterīs dark edge but you make him too much of a prick, he becomes unrelatable.
The Batman
04-29-2006, 03:00 PM
Yeah, itīs a balance, you canīt lose the characterīs dark edge but you make him too much of a prick, he becomes unrelatable.
I agree. Begins did a good job. They just need to make him more seasoned in this one....
MaskedManJRK
04-29-2006, 03:29 PM
"You ready to roll with this!?!"
http://www.cinenews.gr/v4/batman/images/batmanbegins11.jpg
BATMAN: You obviously have no idea who you are F**KING WITH!
:o:up:
MaskedManJRK
04-29-2006, 03:38 PM
I loved Bale's performance of Batman, but that was Batman year 1, so he was portrayed as he should have been.
I think his portrayal of Bats in the next movie should be more badass with a "take no-***** attitude, and even come off as a prick at times.
What you think?
I wouldn't mind seeing some Blade in Batman--the tortured, ronin samurai warrior, with moves that just destroys his enemies (I'd like to see a fight with Batman against a group of thugs akin to the second-to-last fight sequence in Blade I/II, just Batman decimating them).
I wouldn't call either of them "pricks," though. I do think, however, that Batman would be a bit socially awkward (the guy dresses like a f**king bat, he's not really acceptable in regular society), but the "prickness" is just Batman going a few extra steps to make sure the enemy stays down or gets the information he needs. I don't mind seeing Batman breaking a few bones in order to get where The Joker is stashing himself in.
In my opinion, Batman should be a combination of a tortured, brooding samurai, Sam Spade, with an armament that would put a soldier of fortune to shame.
javi1024
04-29-2006, 03:40 PM
He said Wesley Snipes not Samuel L. Jackson..........watch the first Blade. when hes in the hospital chasing Quin cops fire at him and he says "Motherf*&!# you crazy!?"
JesusOfNazarath
04-29-2006, 03:43 PM
yeah...except that "Prick" attitude is what was killing the character for years. its only now that its gotten better.
They Should do Jeph Loeb's Batman, with some TAS and Morrison's JLA Bats.
He's still a prick. Or he just doesn't like black people. Did you see how he acted toward the police women who just said its nice to have you back?
kytrigger
04-29-2006, 03:46 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing some Blade in Batman--the tortured, ronin samurai warrior, with moves that just destroys his enemies (I'd like to see a fight with Batman against a group of thugs akin to the second-to-last fight sequence in Blade I/II, just Batman decimating them).
I wouldn't call either of them "pricks," though. I do think, however, that Batman would be a bit socially awkward (the guy dresses like a f**king bat, he's not really acceptable in regular society), but the "prickness" is just Batman going a few extra steps to make sure the enemy stays down or gets the information he needs. I don't mind seeing Batman breaking a few bones in order to get where The Joker is stashing himself in.
In my opinion, Batman should be a combination of a tortured, brooding samurai, Sam Spade, with an armament that would put a soldier of fortune to shame.
I would call Batman a prick for the last decade or so. I don't mind him breaking bones and interrogating criminals, I don't think he is a prick for that reason. I think he's been a prick because of the way he treats Robin, Oracle, Nightwing, and everyone else on his side. He uses and manipulates them and doesn't even hide it.
Metropolis_Man
04-29-2006, 05:09 PM
I enjoyed Bales portrayel out of any Batman on film yet. It would be good to see him act somewhat different in this one, maybe more silent, more attitude, I'm not sure. I think whatever they decide to do this time, it will definatley be good for the movie and the character. Bale has a good understanding of what Batman is.
explode7
04-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Dude I can't believe your're using Batman and Blade in the same paragraph are you insane. Batman is like like like a million times superior to that piece of thrash there're turning into a TV show.
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 12:23 AM
I loved Bale's performance of Batman, but that was Batman year 1, so he was portrayed as he should have been.
I think his portrayal of Bats in the next movie should be more badass with a "take no-***** attitude, and even come off as a prick at times.
What you think?
Batman's not a prick. It's okay for people to think he is once in a while, but he's not. He acts differently towards different people. I like the Denny O'Neill Batman, and the way he was played in "Begins" was much that way. Had some Loeb in him too, of course, and Morrisson, and Grant, &etc... which is why nearly everybody liked it; there was something there for everybody.
Dude I can't believe ur using Batman and Blade in the same paragraph are u insane. Batman is like like like a million times superior to that piece of thrash there're turning into a TV show.
Does your keyboard not have a Y or O button?
explode7
04-30-2006, 12:28 AM
Nah "ur" is shorter and besides I'm not sitting an exam am I?
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 12:33 AM
Nah "ur" is shorter and besides I'm not sitting an exam am I?
Ur is an ancient Sumerian city. "U" is the 21st letter of the alphabet, and not a word at all.
I'm a writer, so maybe seeing shorthand in this context irks me more than it does other people, but I gotta call it like I see it. You may not be sitting an exam, but you're supposedly communicating with people. At least give us the respect of using real words.
explode7
04-30-2006, 12:40 AM
Okay I changed it for YOUR sake. Happy:)
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 12:48 AM
Okay I changed it for YOUR sake. Happy:)
Sure, except that it SHOULD read:
"Dude I can't believe you're using Batman and Blade in the same paragraph..."
"You're" is short for "you are", whereas "your" is the possessive form of "you."
They don't call me GrammarRobin for nothin'. ;)
Now do something about that sig. The South Park kids sure as hell don't talk about Sumerian cities, either. They wouldn't know Sumeria from Sumo wrestling. :o
7alex
04-30-2006, 09:35 AM
Well, in the cartoons he was a complete prick when he was in costum, so if i took him being a prick there then let him be a prick in the movies. I like this word, prick...
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 11:32 AM
Well, in the cartoons he was a complete prick when he was in costum
No he wasn't, unless you're referring to The Batman, which I do not and will never watch? :confused:
mcflytrap
04-30-2006, 11:40 AM
Ur is an ancient Sumerian city. "U" is the 21st letter of the alphabet, and not a word at all.
I'm a writer, so maybe seeing shorthand in this context irks me more than it does other people, but I gotta call it like I see it. You may not be sitting an exam, but you're supposedly communicating with people. At least give us the respect of using real words.
He also typed "there're" instead of "they're"...
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 11:42 AM
He also typed "there're" instead of "they're"...
Yes, and "thrash" instead of "trash."
I suppose in ten more years it won't matter anyway. Se habla espanol. :(
explode7
04-30-2006, 11:44 AM
Sure, except that it SHOULD read:
"Dude I can't believe you're using Batman and Blade in the same paragraph..."
"You're" is short for "you are", whereas "your" is the possessive form of "you."
They don't call me GrammarRobin for nothin'. ;)
Now do something about that sig. The South Park kids sure as hell don't talk about Sumerian cities, either. They wouldn't know Sumeria from Sumo wrestling. :o
Its fixed. I've got to remember to spell correctly around you next time.:) :up:
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 05:44 PM
Its fixed. I've got to remember to spell correctly around you next time.:) :up:
Yes indeed.
Now, about that sig...
cerealkiller182
04-30-2006, 06:36 PM
Bale did great. I would not mind if they darkened Batman a little, but it is important to keep the distinction between Bruce Wayne and Batman. I think TAS when it took on the Superman style animation lost that distinction.
Golgo-13
04-30-2006, 06:41 PM
Yeah Batman could be a little more badass. Kinda like he was when he was interrogating Flass. After all, every criminal element in Gotham is soppose to fear him, so i believe Bale will deliver the goods.
Plus, if the sequel IS called Batman Strikes, as has been rumored, that title tells us right there that the aggression will have to be turned up a notch.
Mr. Socko
04-30-2006, 06:49 PM
I thought the aggression was fine but it could be turned up a little.
cerealkiller182
04-30-2006, 06:52 PM
I thought the aggression was fine but it could be turned up a little.
Yeah, plus he eventually gets to the point where he just has to stand there to scare people.
Golgo-13
04-30-2006, 06:57 PM
Yeah, plus he eventually gets to the point where he just has to stand there to scare people.
Yeah but that rep and presence has to be earned through aggression...
The Last Meatbag
04-30-2006, 07:36 PM
Blade=Black ASB
Mr. Socko
04-30-2006, 07:42 PM
Asb?
The Last Meatbag
04-30-2006, 07:44 PM
All Star Batman
ChrisBaleBatman
04-30-2006, 07:47 PM
I wonder if this means Bale will start calling people jive turkey, calling everyone whitey and make death threats to David Goyer.
Hmmmm.......I think Bale's got a good grip on things, leave the Snipes way out of this.
BTW.....it's not ASB. It's actually ASBR.....All Star Batman and Robin.
Picky, I know.....but I'm hoping that MAYBE once Miller leaves the title, they can erase the Robin and have a good book.
7alex
04-30-2006, 07:53 PM
No he wasn't, unless you're referring to The Batman, which I do not and will never watch? :confused:
Im talking about season 4 of the animated series. He was kind of like an ******* in some ways.
Mr. Socko
04-30-2006, 08:00 PM
I wonder if this means Bale will start calling people jive turkey, calling everyone whitey and make death threats to David Goyer.
WTF, when did Blade do any of this?!
ChrisBaleBatman
04-30-2006, 08:03 PM
Uh.....never. Snipes did.
Mr. Socko
04-30-2006, 08:04 PM
Why did he make death threats to David Goyer?
I'm guessing...Blade:Trinity? =)
Keyser Sushi
04-30-2006, 08:25 PM
Im talking about season 4 of the animated series. He was kind of like an ******* in some ways.
Not really. He was just Batman. I mean he's very serious most of the time, and pretty grim, and he doesn't waste his time explaining himself to people, he just does what needs to be done. But he's not really a dick or anything.
Yeah Batman could be a little more badass. Kinda like he was when he was interrogating Flass. After all, every criminal element in Gotham is soppose to fear him, so i believe Bale will deliver the goods.
Um. Batman behaves different ways to different people. He was plenty scary in BB, except when he was talking to people he didn't want to scare - Gordon, Rachel, the homeless guy - i.e., around his friends. This is the proper way to portray Batman.
Plus, if the sequel IS called Batman Strikes, as has been rumored, that title tells us right there that the aggression will have to be turned up a notch.
It won't be called that, and there's no reason to turn it up a notch.
I'm guessing...Blade:Trinity? =)
That would be my guess. As I understand it, Snipes wasn't real happy with that. Of course Goyer never really took Blade seriously - it's not worth taking seriously - but it's probably Snipes' last meal ticket, LOL.
kytrigger
04-30-2006, 09:06 PM
From what I've heard, it was during the filming of Blade Trinity. Snipes didn't want Goyer to direct in the first place and was upset the entire time, he was also upset that the actual character was getting less screentime and it was divided up between him and Biel and Reynolds. He would refuse to work on occasion (a lot of the shots with him in the background are of his stunt double and the put Snipes face over his during editing) and was known to just stay in his trailer smoking pot. He also complained that their weren't enough black people in the film. He rarely ever spoke directly to Jessica Biel or Ryan Reynolds and had his assistant say even the smallest things for him. He was also reported as never calling Rayan Reynolds by his name and just referred to him as the "cracker".
From what I have heard he never got along with Goyer during filming, but threatened his life when Goyer refused to let Snipes edit the film. Snipes wanted editing control and Goyer would not only not let him, but he wouldn't let Snipes even in the editing room with him.
Of course this is all just rumor, there was an article about this that I read a little while after teh film was realeased. I'll see if I can find it again...
kytrigger
04-30-2006, 09:13 PM
Here is an article about Snipes' supposed behavior on the set of Blade: Trinity.
http://hollywood*****slap.com/feature.php?feature=1451
edit: The link won't work because there is a curse word in the title. If you want to read the article copy the above link and then replece the asterisks with a word for a female dog.
ObakeTora
05-01-2006, 01:38 AM
yea i like his "inhuman" approach to the character. it really gives the criminals something to fear. plus if Batman gets shot, i dont wanna hear say "Motherf@%! you crazy?!" i HATED that part.
mutha f$%%a you crazy? Everybody in the theater was dying during that part!
I guess its just a culture thing then...
Golgo-13
05-01-2006, 08:37 AM
From what I've heard, it was during the filming of Blade Trinity. Snipes didn't want Goyer to direct in the first place and was upset the entire time, he was also upset that the actual character was getting less screentime and it was divided up between him and Biel and Reynolds. He would refuse to work on occasion (a lot of the shots with him in the background are of his stunt double and the put Snipes face over his during editing) and was known to just stay in his trailer smoking pot. He also complained that their weren't enough black people in the film. He rarely ever spoke directly to Jessica Biel or Ryan Reynolds and had his assistant say even the smallest things for him. He was also reported as never calling Rayan Reynolds by his name and just referred to him as the "cracker".
From what I have heard he never got along with Goyer during filming, but threatened his life when Goyer refused to let Snipes edit the film. Snipes wanted editing control and Goyer would not only not let him, but he wouldn't let Snipes even in the editing room with him.
Of course this is all just rumor, there was an article about this that I read a little while after teh film was realeased. I'll see if I can find it again...
This is the biggest pile of crap i have ever read. I can't see Snipes calling white people the 'C' word with the majority of the set being white, and also Triple H was around. I believe 80% of that article was BS.
kytrigger
05-01-2006, 10:51 AM
This is the biggest pile of crap i have ever read. I can't see Snipes calling white people the 'C' word with the majority of the set being white, and also Triple H was around. I believe 80% of that article was BS.
That's very possible. Personally, I believe most of it to be correct, but I have no proof, just the article. It could go either way.
trustyside-kick
05-01-2006, 02:08 PM
Hmm, never thought of that. Snipes did play Blade really well but I think if Bale was more like him in the Bat suit would be too much. That would make him too dark of a character I believe and Bats is still starting out really so not like anything dramatic/traumatic has happened to make Batman act that (like death of Jason, Barbara being shot, etc).
Super_Ludacris
05-01-2006, 03:08 PM
Blade and Batman are two completely different badasses
trustyside-kick
05-01-2006, 04:14 PM
yea i like his "inhuman" approach to the character. it really gives the criminals something to fear. plus if Batman gets shot, i dont wanna hear say "Motherf@%! you crazy?!" i HATED that part.
Haha.
Mr. Socko
05-01-2006, 04:54 PM
Yeah, now I remember reading something about that. But Snipes had nothing bad to say to Triple H, and I can guess why.
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