View Full Version : Lachy Humle vs Jude Law: Who Should Be The Joker?
Montana
04-28-2006, 08:01 PM
Humle:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9179/31974838m0gv.jpg
Law:
http://i3.tinypic.com/wmnvjp.jpg
Now this happens to be my 1st post, and I want to make a good post for my 1st one. Now 1st of all, I would like to say that I didn't make any of the awesome manips above, kudos to whoever made them. Now I would love to have Lachy Humle as the Joker, he's a great actor, great hairstyle for the Joker in the picture above, everything would be fine if he was casted for the The Joker. Now lets look at Jude Law. A great hairstyle for the Joker in the picture above, hes a great actor, everything would be fine if he was casted for The Joker. Both are equally great canidates for the Joker, but in your honest opinion, who would be the better cast call for the Joker: Lachy Humle, or Jude Law?
My pick: Jude Law. There just something about him that Humle just doesn't have. Maybe its a certain look of evil that I would love to see The Joker have.
I believe Humle would be a great choice for Two-Face(If they don't find any better canidates, Jude Law would be the best choice).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/WillemJoker/Art13031.jpg
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 08:04 PM
My first choice was Depp but doesn't look like he'll be getting it. I'm not a huge fan of Law as Joker but I could accept it. I'm still not entirely sure about Hulme because I've never seen him in a real movie acting but I like that first manip
That first manip isn't Hulme.
Montana
04-28-2006, 08:06 PM
I just typed in Lachy Humle Joker in google, and thats what I got :p
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 08:09 PM
That first manip isn't Hulme.
Lol, it was the only reason why I choose Hulme.
But after rethinking I'll go with Montana and Boom and say Law. Atleast I've seen him act in a few movis before. I've never seen Hulme ever act besides in a 5 second role in The Matrix.
Robin91939
04-28-2006, 08:10 PM
Hulme:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg
-R
kytrigger
04-28-2006, 08:11 PM
Just so you know, it's spelled Hulme. Welcome to the Hype.
Montana
04-28-2006, 08:14 PM
Thanks kytrigger
Thats a great drawing, Robin91939. kudos to you or whoever made it
Batman1939
04-28-2006, 09:00 PM
Humle all the way.
Jude Law is the Joker! :joker:
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9123/pdvd0046ww.png
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 09:46 PM
Lol, those are some rotten teeth.
Lol, those are some rotten teeth.
Thats how the Joker should have his teeth:D :up:
L0ngsh0t
04-28-2006, 09:48 PM
Law i just f***in love that manip of him, and he is a cool ass actor, i like him best
Robin91939
04-28-2006, 10:14 PM
Thanks kytrigger
Thats a great drawing, Robin91939. kudos to you or whoever made it
I didn't draw it....it IS very good, I believe that spanish39 drew it, but don't hold me to it.
-R
The-Night
04-28-2006, 10:17 PM
Law i just f***in love that manip of him, and he is a cool ass actor, i like him best
Hulme of course. I just don't see the point of big names like Law and Weaving competing for the role with such an unknown actor. I mean if they are going to go with a name actor like Law might as well go with the best DEPP!
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 10:24 PM
Hulme of course. I just don't see the point of big names like Law and Weaving competing for the role with such an unknown actor. I mean if they are going to go with a name actor like Law might as well go with the best DEPP!
Welcome to the Light side!!!!
Look at my sig.
But what does it matter if the most known actor or most unknown is cast or not? The best should be cast, and his name is Johnny Depp. But if not then I'd go with Law, Hulme, or Weaving.
The-Night
04-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Welcome to the Light side!!!!
Look at my sig.
But what does it matter if the most known actor or most unknown is cast or not? The best should be cast, and his name is Johnny Depp. But if not then I'd go with Law, Hulme, or Weaving.
I understand Law and Depp are great actor's, but it just seems that casting a big name would take something away from the movie. I just can't point out what, but I know it would. I mean this should be BALE in BATMAN whatever it's going to be called, not BALE LAW in BAT........ But we'll see how it pans out.
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 10:34 PM
Bale's name should be first on the poster, followed by the Joker's, no matter who is cast, unlike Batman '89 where Nicholson's name came first.
But hey, top name actors don't always have to be the #1 main star. Halle Berry isn't the main star of X-Men, Hugh Jackman is.
The-Night
04-28-2006, 10:36 PM
Bale's name should be first on the poster, followed by the Joker's, no matter who is cast, unlike Batman '89 where Nicholson's name came first.
I have to disagree, I mean yeah the Joker is the Joker, but he should not have top billing with Bale. Bale, Caine, Oldman, then Joker.
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 10:38 PM
I edited my above post to more but anyway....
WTH!?!?! Caine and Oldman before The Joker. I think the Joker should be the second main star.
There's no chance that Alfred will have more screen time then Joker.
L0ngsh0t
04-28-2006, 10:41 PM
Depends how they do him, but i agree...but billing isn't everything ether, especially if they go with a guy like Hulme Cain and Oldman will get billed before him
L0ngsh0t
04-28-2006, 10:44 PM
Humle:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9179/31974838m0gv.jpg
Law:
http://i3.tinypic.com/wmnvjp.jpg
Now this happens to be my 1st post, and I want to make a good post for my 1st one. Now 1st of all, I would like to say that I didn't make any of the awesome manips above, kudos to whoever made them. Now I would love to have Lachy Humle as the Joker, he's a great actor, great hairstyle for the Joker in the picture above, everything would be fine if he was casted for the The Joker. Now lets look at Jude Law. A great hairstyle for the Joker in the picture above, hes a great actor, everything would be fine if he was casted for The Joker. Both are equally great canidates for the Joker, but in your honest opinion, who would be the better cast call for the Joker: Lachy Humle, or Jude Law?
My pick: Jude Law. There just something about him that Humle just doesn't have. Maybe its a certain look of evil that I would love to see The Joker have.
I believe Humle would be a great choice for Two-Face(If they don't find any better canidates, Jude Law would be the best choice).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/WillemJoker/Art13031.jpg
i like what you said about Law, there is something about him...i know what you mean
if you watch movies where he stretches himself, like closer and I heart Huckabees, it's there
in Closer he is this Depressed controll freak, and is obsessed with every detail, almost insane about it...attributes that would suit the joker well
in Huckabees he drives himself crazy with success and goes nuts, again i think there are elements he shows in that movie that screams joker
i love him, i like hulme too, but i am 100 percent behind the Law desicion
The-Night
04-28-2006, 10:45 PM
I edited my above post to more but anyway....
WTH!?!?! Caine and Oldman before The Joker. I think the Joker should be the second main star.
There's no chance that Alfred will have more screen time then Joker.
The Joker will be the second main star, even main star in some of our minds, but I highly doubt he's going to have more screen time than Alfred especially with the news of his role being small and mysterious. Which totally blow by the way, but I totally understand
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 10:50 PM
I still don't believe that "small" bit, maybe mysterious, but I'm not believing the small part from Jett's useless rumors. Way before Begins came out, Jett never listed Bale as a top contender for Batman so that shows how true his articles are.
But I think even if Hulme is cast, he should be billed before Oldman and Caine just because he's the 2nd main star, not because of who he is.
The-Night
04-28-2006, 10:55 PM
I still don't believe that "small" bit, maybe mysterious, but I'm not believing the small part from Jett's useless rumors. Way before Begins came out, Jett never listed Bale as a top contender for Batman so that shows how true his articles are.
But I think even if Hulme is cast, he should be billed before Oldman and Caine just because he's the 2nd main star, not because of who he is.
If Hulme is cast I highly doubt he will be casted before Oldman and Caine, I mean before Cain maybe, but never before Oldman, which I hope Gordon has alot more screen time. I don't know I think I'm starting to like this small mysterious role for the Joker, makes his appreance on screen that much sweeter and scary!
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 10:56 PM
I'll refuse to accept it if he has lee screentime then Doc Ock had in Spider-Man 2.
WTF can you do with the Joker in 10 minutes. Scarecrow was fine because he's not a major villian a whole lot of people care about.
The-Night
04-28-2006, 11:02 PM
I'll refuse to accept it if he has lee screentime then Doc Ock had in Spider-Man 2.
WTF can you do with the Joker in 10 minutes. Scarecrow was fine because he's not a major villian a whole lot of people care about.
Look I totally agree with you that the Joker should have alot of screen time, but I am convinced that if he is to have let's say 15min of screen time, those 15 would impact more than doc ock, magneto, green goblin screen time put together.
Hannibal in SOTL
Buffalo Bill
John Doe in Se7en
all I'm saying is that it could work!
Mr. Socko
04-28-2006, 11:07 PM
Yes but people shouldn't use the John Doe one. No one walking into the theater had any idea who John Doe was or anything. It's not like that for the Joker. Everyone knows who he is, what he looks like, and what he does.
But the ONLY way I could see Joker getting such limited screen time is if it's like a follow up of him being the villian in Batman 3.
Alot of people are saying The Joker will be the main villian with Harvey Dent becoming Two Face. It very well could be the opposite, we don't know for sure. In Batman 2 Two Face could be the main villian and have the unnamed Hitman become the Joker at the very end so Batman 3 can take off right there.
The-Night
04-28-2006, 11:12 PM
Yes but people shouldn't use the John Doe one. No one walking into the theater had any idea who John Doe was or anything. It's not like that for the Joker. Everyone knows who he is, what he looks like, and what he does.
But the ONLY way I could see Joker getting such limited screen time is if it's like a follow up of him being the villian in Batman 3.
Well the only thing I'm saying that a little Joker (08) is more impactful than alot of Joker (89). Like everytime Lecter was on screen in SOTL, we could not get enought because we were limited to observing the monster that he was, but In Hannibal that "feeling" went away since his screen time was alot more.
Montana
04-29-2006, 07:37 AM
I've been lurking this morning, and I've read 95% of the posts, so let me state my opinion.
A big name actor would make Batman Begins better than a little known actor Thats just my opinion. We already know that the big name actors are good actors, and many of the little known actors(Hulme for instance) are good actors aswell. But my reason for thinking a big name actor would boost the film was because of Batman 89. Michael Keaton, nobody really knew him as a well known actor. Jack Nicholson, a well known actor, the best of the best, eerybody knew him back in the 80s, heh, and the 70s.
Now lets move on to Hugo Weaving. He'd be an awesome choice for The Joker. I love the shape of his head :p He's also got great teeth, and an evil smile, as we saw in Revolutions after The Oracle became an Agent.
Now on to screen time.
I'd be heartbroken if The Joker got the same airtime as in Doc Ock in SM-2. I'd actually cry after the movie. The theater might be flooded with my tears. Doc Ock was cheated out of airtime, and should have had much more, but I could deal with it, because the way they portraited him wasn't the best way. A scientist gone crazy who just wants to make a machine that can control the sun, blah, blah, blah. Now The Joker should have a huge part as he did in Batman 89. The 2nd main character should definetly not be Alfred or Gordon. Socko is right. Scarecrow wasn't a main villian, so his airtime was perfect IMO.
*Finishes rant* :p
El Payaso
04-29-2006, 08:33 AM
None.
nolan's roll'n
04-29-2006, 10:28 AM
Lachy Hulme. On BOF it said something recently about him not being the front runner right now for the role. It said there were him, Hugo Weaving, and Jude Law being considered for the role now. It said that he's a dark horse, which means he's a replacement for someone if they don't want the role.
Montana
04-29-2006, 10:56 AM
Out of Hugo Weaving and Jude Law, I'd choose Law for The Joker. I just think he would be a better Joker, acting wise. Hugo would be a great Joker, but Law would be better.
The-Night
04-29-2006, 11:24 AM
Out of Hugo Weaving and Jude Law, I'd choose Law for The Joker. I just think he would be a better Joker, acting wise. Hugo would be a great Joker, but Law would be better.
Law and Weaving are just pawns! the role will go to a low profile actor. This movie does not need the boost that Nicholson brought with him in 89. BB did pretty well with Bale as the star lead, they don't need Law or Weaving! Besides I really belive, and this is just my opinion, that any big names like Law and weaving are just pawns to keep people talking throughout this whole Joker casting process. The role should and will hoefully go to a low profile actor like Hulme or Bettany as it should be.
The-Night
04-29-2006, 11:53 AM
Hmm I rather see Hulme as Joker then Law, I think Law would be better as The Riddler.
Yeah, I mean these days it makes sense casting an unknown for such a huge part like The Joker.
Two-Face
04-29-2006, 12:09 PM
Hmm I rather see Hulme as Joker then Law, I think Law would be better as The Riddler.
Shoemeister
04-29-2006, 03:14 PM
Hulme:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg
-R
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
...meh.
Metropolis_Man
04-29-2006, 05:12 PM
I really haven't seen much of Hulme's work. So I can't judge too fairly here. I keep going back to when Law played in Road To Perdition. He was so creepy in that movie and for that, I'd suggest him as Joker.
TheFalcon
04-29-2006, 05:23 PM
I can't picture Law as being evil at all. Whenever I hear his name I see the poster for Alfie or something in my head. I think the only movie I've seen with him is AI. Nevertheless he does have right type of face and I could see him with the Joker makeup, but I can't picture him portraying the ultimate evil of the Joker.
I've been preffering Hulme up til now and I was also liking Bettany, but then again I haven't really seen them act much either (I saw Hulme in Matrix 2&3 and Bettany in a Knight's Tale).
Since Bettany apperently isn't available I'm hoping for Hulme, but I trust Nolan too find the actor that fits the role best. And as long as that actor has the skinny look of the Joker (as opposed to Nicholsons) I'll be happy.
Macphisto
04-29-2006, 05:26 PM
Way before Begins came out, Jett never listed Bale as a top contender for Batman so that shows how true his articles are.
You've got to be kidding, right? BOF championed Bale from day one. Hell, Bale was BOF's no.1 choice for Batman vs Superman!
Maxwell Smart
04-29-2006, 06:16 PM
Forget him, Macphisto. Anyone whos actually closely followed the Batman films over the last few years and has any sense knows BOF while not PERFECT is by and far the most trustworthy and reliable source of info. Hell, members of the BB production team said they checked BOF everyday during filming themselves to see what they were reporting over there.
Besides Socko has shown himself to be a drooling idiot in other ways so c'est la vie.
Anyway...
Jude Law for Joker? He is too much of a name imo. I'm sure he could do a good job, but I just don't like him for the role.
Two-Face
04-29-2006, 06:29 PM
I remember when everybody here wanted Jude Law as Joker back in 2003 before Nolan or Bale was attached to the project. I even showed my support for while but not now he might be good but I agree there are better choices Bettany, Brody or Hulme and if Law was in a Batman movie I think he will be suited as The Riddler that’s my opinion.
Yellow Cyclone
04-29-2006, 07:33 PM
i'm def not down for the law as jooker either....i don't know much about humle either....
hamill dammit! :p
I would prefer an unknown play Joker, it would make him all the more creepy and upredictable. Hulme looks physically perfect (facially) for Joker. Law would probably be o.k., but I think it would be "Hey look, it's Jude Law playing Joker". Mr. Nolan, please pick an unknown.
Calendar Man
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Jude Law is the Joker! :joker:
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9123/pdvd0046ww.png
No.
Calendar Man
05-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Hulme easily (if these were the two choices). Jude Law is not scary. The Joker should be threatening. Jude Law is a metrosexual.
StorminNorman
05-01-2006, 10:03 PM
BETTANY DAMMIT!
or Weaving.
Keyser Sushi
05-01-2006, 10:13 PM
Hulme easily (if these were the two choices). Jude Law is not scary. The Joker should be threatening.
Of course the Joker should be threatening, but it's about the manner in which he is threatening. I'm still not convinced Hulme is a good choice.
Jude Law is a metrosexual.
Perhaps, but the Joker's a total metrosexual. That's actually why I like Law for the role. He's got that kind of foppish quality to him, and yet - if you've seen Road to Perdition - he can be scary as hell, too. And he's certainly got the look.
The reason I like Bettany is because I know he could do that, and easily bring real menace to the character besides.
StorminNorman
05-01-2006, 10:14 PM
Of course the Joker should be threatening, but it's about the manner in which he is threatening. I'm still not convinced Hulme is a good choice.
Perhaps, but the Joker's a total metrosexual. That's actually why I like Law for the role. He's got that kind of foppish quality to him, and yet - if you've seen Road to Perdition - he can be scary as hell, too. And he's certainly got the look.
The reason I like Bettany is because I know he could do that, and easily bring real menace to the character besides.
Foppish?
Keyser Sushi
05-01-2006, 10:18 PM
Foppish?
Indeed, yes. "Excessively refined and fastidious in taste and manner."
i.e., "Metrosexual." :)
StorminNorman
05-01-2006, 10:23 PM
I gotta add that word to be vocabulary - Foppish, I like it.
Keyser Sushi
05-01-2006, 10:28 PM
I gotta add that word to be vocabulary - Foppish, I like it.
Happy to oblige. Of course this means that instead of the trendy new word "metrosexual" you can use the original, and much older, word: Fop.
wikum
05-03-2006, 02:10 PM
I'd pick Law over Hulme.
Hulme over Weaving.
Bettany over all of them.
Except for Roth.:yellow:
The Chairman
05-03-2006, 03:36 PM
BETTANY DAMMIT!
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/mags/esquire/esquireuk1.jpg (javascript:;)
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/mags/esquire/esquireuk2.jpg (javascript:;)
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/mags/empire/empire4.jpg (javascript:;)
Yes, please. Just sign the guy up and put him in a purple suit and white makeup.
As for Law and Hulme, neither one of them strike me as Jokerish in anyway. Law is sort of an anti - Joker, very friendly and quite harmless. Granted, I haven't seen Road To Perdition, but everyhting I have seen from him, he's played the same friendly British guy. Hulme I've never even seen act.
The-Night
05-03-2006, 04:00 PM
I hope Bettany is even still in the race!!!! The heck with Law or Weaving, this should be Bettany v.s. Hulme for the role that way we won't lose.
StorminNorman
05-03-2006, 05:27 PM
Yes, please. Just sign the guy up and put him in a purple suit and white makeup.
Yes
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/mags/holland/RobinHolland-001.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:;)
The Chairman
05-03-2006, 06:31 PM
Yes
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/mags/holland/RobinHolland-001.jpg (http://javascript<b></b>:;)
Perfection.
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but the thread is called Lachy Humle vs Jude Law, I didn't see the name Bettany, whom allegedly was never really in the race anyway . . . .
Also, that first manip was of Christopher Ecclesten; here's a manip/drawing of Hulme as Joker:
http://images.artwanted.com/large/08/12773_217708.jpg
Digital_Ashes
05-03-2006, 07:14 PM
http://i1.tinypic.com/x43hpc.jpg
My Law.
Rynan
05-03-2006, 07:32 PM
Oh...please do not inform me that is a CARVED smile on his face. Because if it is, you looking for some serious trouble.
StorminNorman
05-03-2006, 08:47 PM
http://i1.tinypic.com/x43hpc.jpg
My Law.
Love the art (stylistically, not as a real life example of the Joker), love the Title (as a Batman movie and comic title), dont love the actor :(
Ronny Shade
05-03-2006, 09:52 PM
This thread is just a bad idea.
Sorry for joining so late. Forgive me if I don't read everything.
Jude Law and Lachy Hulme should in no way be the only actors to consider for the part. That first manip on that first post is actually Christopher Eccleston, my top choice for the role.
The Kid
05-03-2006, 10:30 PM
I don't care what you interneters say. jIM is perfect for the part. Who cares if he played the riddler? Wtf dos that have to do with his character in begins 2 or 3? If as a true fan you want the absolute best for this franchise, you'll join me in saying CARREY DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.jimcarreyonline.com/images/albums/movies/mask/stills/normal_mask-still17.jpg
Digital_Ashes
05-03-2006, 10:33 PM
Oh...please do not inform me that is a CARVED smile on his face. Because if it is, you looking for some serious trouble.
Why is that bad?
The Joker has been hinted to be a masochist. Why not have him have a carved smile. Why stick to the freakin' comics? Why not add some innovation to the Joker, there doesn't even need to be a backstory. He just is, with a carved smile and a sick sense of humor.
You comic fanboys are too dedicated to the comics. If you want a rehash of the comics, read it. If you want some innovation and something new, give them ideas, propose something.
Joker with a carved smile, instead of a acid scarred smile is much more original, not to mention Harvey Dent gets the acid [actually it was a BASE, not an acid but still.]
I'm just giving some artistic leeway here for expression, stop sticking to the source material so ritualistically. Let your mind open for innovation, and pray to god it's good.
Batman Begins re-wrote his origin for film, why not re-write a few others.
Ronny Shade
05-03-2006, 10:43 PM
Because a carved smile and an acid smile are both way less cool than just a creepy guy with a naturally big grin.
i.e. Christopher Eccleston.
kytrigger
05-03-2006, 10:51 PM
Plus the fact that you would be taking away the narcissitic properties of the Joker. He thinks he looks good, he wants to look good. He is after all a showman (in his eyes atleast). Cutting up his own face would take this away.
Ronny Shade
05-03-2006, 10:55 PM
kytrigger, you are the people's hero.
Digital_Ashes
05-03-2006, 11:05 PM
fair enough he is another one of mine.
Law As Dent.
http://i1.tinypic.com/x4jhxe.jpg
Ronny Shade
05-03-2006, 11:10 PM
lol "Jude Face"
kytrigger
05-04-2006, 12:27 AM
kytrigger, you are the people's hero.
Why thank you.
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 12:30 AM
Homestly, some people just don't understand that the Joker is a showman and a narcissist. Here's hoping that Nolan does.
KingOfDreams
05-04-2006, 12:42 AM
I've seen a lot of Law's work and he's a good actor. But I'm so sure he would be a good Joker. he probably wouldn't be bad in the role though. I've only seen Hulme in that part he had in the Matrix, which I forgot until it was mentioned on these boards awhile ago. He does look the part. So, I really have no opinion about which of them should be The Joker. I'm actually not sure who I want for The Joker.
Don Corleone
05-04-2006, 05:24 AM
Bettany or Weaving...none of the others are good enough
Rynan
05-04-2006, 07:44 AM
Batman Begins re-wrote his origin for film, why not re-write a few others.
Did Bruce's parents get shot? Yes. Did he travel the world seeking training? Yes. Did he see a Bat which inspired him to become Batman? Yes. I don't see a rewrite, considering there was so little to begin with.
And being dedicated to comics isn't a bad thing. Sticking close to the source material isn't a bad thing. What you want to do extremly change The Joker's character just to suit your idea of what The Joker should be. I don't know how many times in these very forums I've heard trash like this. It's not innovative, it's hackneyed. It's character degredation. Why change a good character just to suit the needs of a few people who have little concept of who The Joker really is?
The fact that you called people "Fanboys" also indicates that you don't know what the hell your talking about.
Dangerous
05-04-2006, 08:33 AM
Hulme please if they are the only to in the running, Jude Law is suck a d-ick cheese and it would really suck if he was the Joker.
Joker w/ Carved Smile:
:down: :down: :down:
The next BM movie isn't a TOOL video . . .
Katsuro
05-04-2006, 11:56 AM
If they pull some crap like giving Joker a carved smile, I can tell you I will not be in the theater to see that film. Luckily, i'm sure Nolan and Goyer know better than to pull crap like that.
Also, anyone but Jude Law, please!
well . . . now that we know Goyer will be more involved in this next one than previously rumored . . . I'm sure we will have a nice interpretation of the J-man
ultimatefan
05-04-2006, 01:25 PM
I´d usually say Law, but after seeing the Hulme video, I´m not so sure. Dude can act.
The-Night
05-04-2006, 06:10 PM
I´d usually say Law, but after seeing the Hulme video, I´m not so sure. Dude can act.
That's what alot of us have been trying to say all along! Alot of people judge Hulme for his 30 sec appearance in The Matrix, what the hell? Hulme can most certainly pull it off and the fact that he is an unknown make it much more sweeter and DAMIT put Bettany back in the race!!!!!
The hell with Law and weaving!
Digital_Ashes
05-04-2006, 09:40 PM
Gah, I was just offering Ideas, I do know what I'm talking about by the way, I've read just about every Batman Graphic Novel, I own The Killing Joke, Dark Victory, Year One, Long Halloween [my favorite portrait of the joker.]
I Know the Joker is a narcissist, I know he is a showboat, and from what I'm seeing already from the Nolan writers is that he won't be displaying that in this movie. Apparently he is working the shadows, they said smaller role. That's obviously not the Joker from The Killing Joke, which has one of the most gruesome torturing ideas I've ever seen. I mean, seriously, they are people that are so dedicated to the comics they refuse to let someone else interpret the Joker. We've already seen the killing joke Joker. I want something new. Sorry if that makes me a fool, but I want something new, be it a carved smile to a simple suit change.
Having a perma-grin from an acid bath isn't even plausible. And I want the perma-grin.
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 09:41 PM
lol I thought you were saying "I'm not so sure dude can act"
I, as always, reserve judgement on the Bettany and on the Hulme.
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 09:43 PM
Digital Ashes, I sentence you as a perma-witch. You shall be burned at the stake tomorrow at sundown.
The-Night
05-04-2006, 09:45 PM
lol I thought you were saying "I'm not so sure dude can act"
I, as always, reserve judgement on the Bettany and on the Hulme.
why is that?
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 09:48 PM
because I haven't seen any of their stuff...at least not significant amount of it.
The-Night
05-04-2006, 09:54 PM
because I haven't seen any of their stuff...at least not significant amount of it.
You haven't seen Gangster No.1 or Four Jacks?
Rynan
05-04-2006, 09:55 PM
Having a perma-grin from an acid bath isn't even plausible. And I want the perma-grin.
Well, guess what.
You ain't getting jack ****. Perma-grin is for limp wristed pussies.
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 09:57 PM
You haven't seen Gangster No.1 or Four Jacks?
no.
The-Night
05-04-2006, 10:02 PM
no.
Well check them out dude. gangster No.1 is a great movie, Four Jacks is not that good, but Hulme makes it watchable especially knowing he COULD be the Joker.
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 10:04 PM
I don't think my video store has them.
The-Night
05-04-2006, 10:07 PM
I don't think my video store has them.
That sucks!
Ronny Shade
05-04-2006, 10:10 PM
I chould traipse around town looking for them, but...
well, you know how it is.
The-Night
05-04-2006, 10:12 PM
I chould traipse around town looking for them, but...
well, you know how it is.
Just buy them and then return them or the only other choice wold be NETFLIX, that's the way I did it!
Katsuro
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Gah, I was just offering Ideas, I do know what I'm talking about by the way, I've read just about every Batman Graphic Novel, I own The Killing Joke, Dark Victory, Year One, Long Halloween [my favorite portrait of the joker.]
I Know the Joker is a narcissist, I know he is a showboat, and from what I'm seeing already from the Nolan writers is that he won't be displaying that in this movie. Apparently he is working the shadows, they said smaller role. That's obviously not the Joker from The Killing Joke, which has one of the most gruesome torturing ideas I've ever seen. I mean, seriously, they are people that are so dedicated to the comics they refuse to let someone else interpret the Joker. We've already seen the killing joke Joker. I want something new. Sorry if that makes me a fool, but I want something new, be it a carved smile to a simple suit change.
Having a perma-grin from an acid bath isn't even plausible. And I want the perma-grin.
Please, no perma-grin. If we get a perma-grin, I can tell there will be some angry fans, and i'll be one of them. Joker didn't have a permanent grin in the comics. He's capable of showing a full range of motion, it's just that a smile is his favorite. And what do you mean we've seen The Killing Joke Joker? When? Certainly not in Batman '89. Jack's Joker was far from the modern interpretation of the character (he was more similar to earlier interpretations). Joker as he's portrayed in modern comics (TKJ, TLH, Hush, etc) is my favorite villain of all time, so I want to see him portrayed on film as close to possible as he is in the comics. The Joker I know and love smiles because he's so insane he finds death hilarious, not because his face is stuck that way.
wikum
05-05-2006, 10:44 AM
For me the essential things are:
He should be lanky (tall and skinny)
His hair should be gree or black with a green tint. Not bright green.
No perma smile but a wide grin when needed. Hulme, Law, Bettany and Weaving all have this locked.
Perma red lips are not essential. Lipstick could be used. I quite like the idea.
Bleached white skin like in Interview With The Vampire. Looks almost dead.
He should not have one set of clothes. I like the scene in TKJ when he's wearing shorts and a Hawian shirt. Purlpe suit could be used but is not essential.
Goons are not essential. I don't mind them but I would like him to just be this guy who pops out of nowhere and then vanishes.
kytrigger
05-05-2006, 11:17 AM
I don't think my video store has them.
None of the stores had it where I am either, so I just bought it on amazon. I bought it new for about 6 dollars. So you could go that route.
wikum
05-05-2006, 12:40 PM
. And what do you mean we've seen The Killing Joke Joker? When? Certainly not in Batman '89..
He means we have seen the purple suit wearing, red lips, green hair and white face joker. He wants something thats not essentially in the comics, something different. I agree with this. I wouldn't mind it at all. However The Joker in B89 HAD a perma smile, so he's slightly wrong....but I know what he means.
Rynan
05-05-2006, 12:44 PM
He means we have seen the purple suit wearing, red lips, green hair and white face joker. He wants something thats not essentially in the comics, something different. I agree with this. I wouldn't mind it at all. However The Joker in B89 HAD a perma smile, so he's slightly wrong....but I know what he means.
Wouldn't that make you both in the wrong?
THIS IS THE JOKER! FEAR HIM! NOW!
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