Most stupid Achilles Heal

[Whirlysplat]

Most stupid Achilles Heel

Supes has Kryptonite, Red Sun Radiation and Magic although these are getting less. Wolverine and Deathstroke have little girls, Batman has Robin, Thor and Wonderwoman have normal bullets, Human Torch has Water, Iron man Booze.

Most heroes have a weakness

Whose is the most stupid?

- Whirly

[DBM]

"Heel" not "heal."

[Whirlysplat]

"Heel" not "heal."

You're not a heel are you? I accept your point and have corrected it, poor spelling happens, especially after you have been marking all day:)
Let us heal from this.

- Whirly

[The Hero]

The idea of Wolverine's weakness being little girls is unsettling in many,many ways.

[bored]

Tell that to Shadowcat, Jubilee, X-23, and Ultimate Jean Grey and Rogue.

[Whirlysplat]

Tell that to Shadowcat, Jubilee, X-23, and Ultimate Jean Grey and Rogue.

It's funny because it's just so true :)

- Whirly

[euroq]

Your not a heel are you? I accept your point and have corrected it, poor spelling happens, especially after you have been marking all day:)
Let us heal from this.

- Whirly

"You're", not "your". :p

[Whirlysplat]

"You're", not "your". :p

good point as well, corrected. you are = you're. We are all picky today "aren't" we. :)

- Whirly

[TheCorpulent1]

Thor's not vulnerable to bullets, as far as I know. His "weakness" for most of his existence was turning back into his mortal form if he was separated from Mjolnir for over 60 seconds.

As far as the dumbest, I'd have to go with Alan Scott. It's not just that he's vulnerable to wood, which is everywhere, it's that outside of that weakness he's arguably the most powerful Lantern around. It kind of sucks to go from closing wormholes with his mind one minute to writhing on the ground in pain the next because someone threw a toothpick at him. :(

[Whirlysplat]

Thor's not vulnerable to bullets, as far as I know. His "weakness" for most of his existence was turning back into his mortal form if he was separated from Mjolnir for over 60 seconds.

As far as the dumbest, I'd have to go with Alan Scott. It's not just that he's vulnerable to wood, which is everywhere, it's that outside of that weakness he's arguably the most powerful Lantern around. It kind of sucks to go from closing wormholes with his mind one minute to writhing on the ground in pain the next because someone threw a toothpick at him. :(

Actually on a number of occasions Thor has been shot, I will dig out issues by the end of the week.

Agreed about the wood.

- Whirly

[rigel7soldiers]

There's this one guy, whose name I forget, but he is invulnerable to everything except for leafy vegetables and wicker furniture.
He was one of the Mystery Men... yeah.

My all-time favorite weaknesses include:

Speedy(he will always be Speedy)'s greatest weakness is, of course, heroin, a fact that I somehow find to be cripplingly hilarious

And the Invincible Iron Man was defeated by a couple dry martinis

[euroq]

Actually on a number of occasions Thor has been shot, I will dig out issues by the end of the week.

I remember seeing Thor lose consciousness for a moment when he was shot in the middle of his forehead. Might have been in Priest's Black Panther run. :confused:

I can understand if Thor fans want to ignore that. :)

[Flame on!]

Thor's not vulnerable to bullets, as far as I know. His "weakness" for most of his existence was turning back into his mortal form if he was separated from Mjolnir for over 60 seconds.

As far as the dumbest, I'd have to go with Alan Scott. It's not just that he's vulnerable to wood, which is everywhere, it's that outside of that weakness he's arguably the most powerful Lantern around. It kind of sucks to go from closing wormholes with his mind one minute to writhing on the ground in pain the next because someone threw a toothpick at him. :(
Didn't Hal Jordon have the colour yellow?

[Whirlysplat]

I remember seeing Thor lose consciousness for a moment when he was shot in the middle of his forehead. Might have been in Priest's Black Panther run. :confused:

I can understand if Thor fans want to ignore that. :)

I remember that and the chain guns on a group of planes kept knocking him back and caused welts on his skin. I also remember a very old issue when he guested with the FF or they guested with him and he got shot and had his arm in a sling. He spins the hammer for a reason.
I can also understand Thor fans ignoring these issues my friend :)

- Whirly

[Honey Vibe]

I think Spidey's is the most silly. How can a genius continually forget to bring enough web fluid? Makes you wonder how many times a week he walks out without his wallet, or even his pants. :down

[The Question]

Well, there's only so much he can carry with him. I mean, his costume doesn't have any pockets.

[TheCorpulent1]

I remember that and the chain guns on a group of planes kept knocking him back and caused welts on his skin. I also remember a very old issue when he guested with the FF or they guested with him and he got shot and had his arm in a sling. He spins the hammer for a reason.
I can also understand Thor fans ignoring these issues my friend :)

- Whirly
Thor writers seem to ignore those issues as well. Thor's survived much worse than bullets on numerous occasions, including nukes and a dip in the sun. It's just more inconsistency on the part of the canon.
Didn't Hal Jordon have the colour yellow?
Yeah, people could even just paint things yellow and he'd be totally unable to affect them. But yellow wasn't used directly against him as often as wood has been against Alan. Mr. Terrific once took Alan down by blowing a mist of wood particles in his face. :(

[rigel7soldiers]

Thor writers seem to ignore those issues as well. Thor's survived much worse than bullets on numerous occasions, including nukes and a dip in the sun. It's just more inconsistency on the part of the canon.

Yeah, people could even just paint things yellow and he'd be totally unable to affect them. But yellow wasn't used directly against him as often as wood has been against Alan. Mr. Terrific once took Alan down by blowing a mist of wood particles in his face. :(

Thor's also been not killed by Kurse, Surtur, Ymir, and Ulik, for what it's worth.

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly. It's a shame, but Thor really is one of the least consistent characters in comics. As I mentioned, he's been tossed into the sun and survived without much harm, but during his first real fight against Beta Ray Bill he lost because the heat of the volcano they were fighting in left him weakened while it didn't faze Bill's cybernetically enhanced body. I read that and I was like, "Bwha?" :confused:

[Mee]

By far the worst was the Green Lantern (think it was Alan Scott?) who's ring didn't work on yellow.

[TheCorpulent1]

That was all of the Silver Age Green Lanterns, actually. Alan Scott is the Golden Age GL whose powers don't work on wood.

[TheFalcon]

Over 20 posts and nobody has yet mentioned Martian Manhunters weakness against fire?
The most powerful being on Earth (except Spectre and the like) and you can stop him with a box of matches. :)

But, that's not the stupidest one IMO, the Green Lantern weakness against yellow takes that prize. There wasn't even any explanation for it.
It was just there to give villains a fighting chance against GL. It took almost 50 years before somebody came up with a reason.
Atleast MM's weakness against fire could be understandable, but having a color as a weakness is just too stupid.

[Lackey]

It took about 50 years for someone to come up with a reason for MM's fire weakness also.

[War Lord]

It took about 50 years for someone to come up with a reason for MM's fire weakness also.

On one of the JL cartoon episodes, it was revealed that his family had died in a fire, leaving the viewer under the impression that the weakness is psychological in nature.

[TheCorpulent1]

It took about 50 years for someone to come up with a reason for MM's fire weakness also.
Kelly's ancient Burning Martian thing was the first time it was ever explained? :eek:

[Elijya]

Ultra Man. 'Nuff said.

[rigel7soldiers]

Do you mean Captain Ultra?
Yeah... Griffin Gogol cannot tolerate any level of flame. He fainted in the presence of a lit match.

[Elijya]

Yeah, I meant Captain Ultra

[yahman]

On one of the JL cartoon episodes, it was revealed that his family had died in a fire, leaving the viewer under the impression that the weakness is psychological in nature.

That wouldn't really explain why all the other Martians are affected by it. In the JLA arc ; the Burning, we are told that the Martians weakness to fire is a genetic/psychological, induced by the Oan Guardians. This was to prevent the 'Fire Martians' from destroying the universe ( An entire race of evil beings more powerful than superman made even the Guardians worried). This genetic experiment caused the genesis of the White and green types which now exists.

I thought the Green lattern weakness to yellow, was connected to pharallax ?

[XFanTim]

I thought the Green lattern weakness to yellow, was connected to pharallax ?
Yeah, but that's something Johns came up with for GL:Rebirth. The yellow weakness was around for decades (real time) before anyone ever heard of Parallax -- much less the big yellow monster Parallax from GL:Rebirth.

[yahman]

Yeah, but that's something Johns came up with for GL:Rebirth. The yellow weakness was around for decades (real time) before anyone ever heard of Parallax -- much less the big yellow monster Parallax from GL:Rebirth.

IMO, God like characters need weaknesses, it allows more intelligent but less powerful characters to become real threats, which definitely allows for more expansive story telling. It also allows for more consistency, if used properly. Otherwise you have an inevitable 'power inflation', where the villains are continually increased in power, just to present a threat to your Godlike good guy. This is bound to cause inconsistency, which is evident from the most blatant cases of power inflation, E.G. Dragon ball Z and Pre Crisis Superman.

[Whirlysplat]

IMO, God like characters need weaknesses, it allows more intelligent but less powerful characters to become real threats, which definitely allows for more expansive story telling. It also allows for more consistency, if used properly. Otherwise you have an inevitable 'power inflation', where the villains are continually increased in power, just to present a threat to your Godlike good guy. This is bound to cause inconsistency, which is evident from the most blatant cases of power inflation, E.G. Dragon ball Z and Pre Crisis Superman.

And Phoenix avatars.:) Don't forget them Yahs. Although Xornetto, hmm.

- Whirly

[TheCorpulent1]

IMO, God like characters need weaknesses, it allows more intelligent but less powerful characters to become real threats, which definitely allows for more expansive story telling. It also allows for more consistency, if used properly. Otherwise you have an inevitable 'power inflation', where the villains are continually increased in power, just to present a threat to your Godlike good guy. This is bound to cause inconsistency, which is evident from the most blatant cases of power inflation, E.G. Dragon ball Z and Pre Crisis Superman.
Good writers can challenge godlike characters without silly Silver Age weaknesses. See Gaiman's Sandman or any number of amazing Superman stories where Kryptonite and magic are nowhere to be found.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Green Lantern and yellow.

[Iambaytor]

There's this one guy, whose name I forget, but he is invulnerable to everything except for leafy vegetables and wicker furniture.
He was one of the Mystery Men... yeah.

That would be Jumo the Magnificent. But I think that was intentionally stupid.

Does anybody remember that movie Up, Up and Away on the Disney Channel where the superheroes were weak against tin foil?

[boywondernerdDC]

Alan's wood thing is just plain retarded.

[The Hero]

Alan's wood thing is just plain retarded.
For a second I almost thought you were talking about Alan Moore's Swamp Thing.You should be more careful next time,since I'm pretty sure Moore has access to black magic.:o

[1987olds442]

Over 20 posts and nobody has yet mentioned Martian Manhunters weakness against fire?He doesn't have that weakness any longer, but he is addicted to Oreo cookies...

[Silicon Surfer]

Do you mean Captain Ultra?
Yeah... Griffin Gogol cannot tolerate any level of flame. He fainted in the presence of a lit match.

And yet he first appeared trying to join the Frightful Four against the Fantastic Four

[The Fonz]

Martian Manhunter's weakness was Oreos. Captain America's weakness is flashbacks of Bucky. Both of those were pretty stupid.