Kevin Spacey = Gene Hackman

[Kryptonite]

from the trailer, the characters feel very similar

seems a little campy to me

[The Kid]

He's a clown. I don't like it.

[Mentok]

I see more psychotic than camp. I guess if you want to see camp, thats what you will see.

[ervann]

He wouldn't do that little 'camp' act if the kid wasn't there. I agree psychotic is closer to it. After watching the trailer a few times, I think Spacey will be one the best thing about this movie. Very imposing when he's in the mood. Hackman was never imposing or projected a sense of power and authority like Spacey does.

[The Kid]

I don't think he's psychotic he just likes to do bad things just like superman likes to do good things.

[Ita-KalEl]

IMO is more similare to the mad Smallville Luthor

[Katsuro]

I like what i've seen so far of Spacey. He came off as really evil and psychotic. But really, it's hard to judge from a few lines in the trailer. Most of what I've heard is that Spacey's Luthor is really sadistic and evil, and rather scary. We'll have to see when the movie comes out though, I guess.

[The Kid]

He wouldn't do that little 'camp' act if the kid wasn't there. I agree psychotic is closer to it. After watching the trailer a few times, I think Spacey will be one the best thing about this movie. Very imposing when he's in the mood. Hackman was never imposing or projected a sense of power and authority like Spacey does.

this is true spacey is god. :confused: the thing about the kid being there so he acts like a funnyman might be true too.

[Casius--J]

I dunno man to me he seemed off his head, he seemed more of a threat than hackman was.

[The Kid]

that's just cuz he's not wearing a wig like this.

http://www.ifanboy.com/images/hackman_luthor2.jpg:( VS http://popcultureshock.com/features/963/hackman_lex.gif :) :up:

Bald = threatening.

Just my theory based on facts about how people react to something that doesn't seem normal.

[IKnowSomeJudo]

I dunno man to me he seemed off his head, he seemed more of a threat than hackman was.
Agreed. I don't think they're even close. Kev's Luthor is a different personality altogether. He actually looks bat**** insane.

[dark_b]

i am now only waiting that some user will say that spacey is not a good actor.

[celldog]

Campy......

His "Wroooooong!!" line was ridiculous.

[Cinemaman]

I see more psychotic than camp. I guess if you want to see camp, thats what you will see.

AGREED.

[Cinemaman]

Campy......

His "Wroooooong!!" line was ridiculous.

Go away from here or I will kill you!

[dark_b]

the wroooooooong line was incredible. from mr. nice guy to a mutha***er.

[The Kid]

Gene hackman's luthor was psychotic too. :p

Lex 1: Do you want to see a long arm?

Lex 2: Bring it on!

[Cinemaman]

the wroooooooong line was incredible. from mr. nice guy to a mutha***er.

It was great! I love Spacey's scenes!

[dark_b]

It was great! I love Spacey's scenes!i am afraid that spacey will be to good for this movie. this movie is about brandon. and if spacey to good than he will steal teh show from brandon.

[Cinemaman]

i am afraid that spacey will be to good for this movie. this movie is about brandon. and if spacey to good than he will steal teh show from brandon.

I don't think so, Spacey will be even better, and that will help movie!

[Mentok]

Gene hackman's luthor was psychotic too. :p

Lex 1: Do you want to see a long arm?

Lex 2: Bring it on!

I saw a guy on a train wearing a shirt with that on it... I pissed myself :up:

[ultimatefan]

Huh, to be honest, in that scene with Lois, I thought he was campier than Hackman... It´s not even the lines, it´s all the over-the-top mannerisms... Check Luthor in Superman TAS, for instance, he´s a cold and calculated villain, he never goes jumpy like that, THAT´S a menacing Lex Luthor.

[DOO BEE]

the "WROOOOOOONG!!!" ling then kicking into music and kicking in with superman speed flying by.... ****ing made my heart beat so fast, it was amazing..... this movie is the movie of the year...... BATMAN BEGINS was last year and now SUPERMAN RETURNS will be this year...... DC will be having the greatest time of their lives with two of their top comic icon taking in the best movie of the year award....

imo of coarse lol


ahhhhh i am ****ing excited...... woot!

[deathshead2]

I liked it brings a little crazy to Lex. I would be crazy too after getting out of jail.

[Mr. Credible]

Kevin Spacey = Gene Hackman ?!?


WRONG!!!

[deathshead2]

Kevin Spacey = Gene Hackman ?!?


WRONG!!!No post the pic of Lex saying wrong in big letters. I would post it but im not at my computer.

[ultimatefan]

I see more psychotic than camp. I guess if you want to see camp, thats what you will see.
And if you want to see psychotic, that´s what you will see. Let me take the example of Hannibal. Anthony Hopkins said his inspiration for playing the character was Hal 9000, the character was so scary and dangerous because he had this calm, smooth and controlled voice behind his murderous acts. Hannibal is so scary because he´s so in control, there´s so much method in his madness, he always seems two steps ahead of you, like he´s never gonna make a mistake, a jumpy and screamy psycho is the one who loses it, who will be irrational and do stupid things and get caught.

[deathshead2]

And if you want to see psychotic, that´s what you will see. Let me take the example of Hannibal. Anthony Hopkins said his inspiration for playing the character was Hal 9000, the character was so scary and dangerous because he had this calm, smooth and controlled voice behind his murderous acts. Hannibal is so scary because he´s so in control, there´s so much method in his madness, he always seems two steps ahead of you, like he´s never gonna make a mistake, a jumpy and screamy psycho is the one who loses it, who will be irrational and do stupid things and get caught.You do have a good point might be the reason why I always liked superman TAS Lex better than any other.

[The Kid]

that lex is my fav too. but the superfriends lex was pretty cool also. Spacey reminds me of him.

[Mentok]

And if you want to see psychotic, that´s what you will see.

But I didnt want to see psychotic in him. Its just what I got from the trailer.

[Eteric]

I saw a man who is so confident in his plan, that he isn't worried about a damned thing, including superman.

[ultimatefan]

that lex is my fav too. but the superfriends lex was pretty cool also. Spacey reminds me of him.
I liked Spacey in the "tell me everything" and "so long Superman" moments. It´s the scene with Lois that rubs me the wrong way.

[deathshead2]

I liked Spacey in the "tell me everything" and "so long Superman" moments. It´s the scene with Lois that rubs me the wrong way.I don't like the lois:down :( and I wanted to hear more of supes voice but what I heard I srot of don't like it.

[Cinemaman]

I liked Spacey in the "tell me everything" and "so long Superman" moments. It´s the scene with Lois that rubs me the wrong way.

"So long Superman" was actually great vissual style made.

[The Kid]

Routh's voice is perfect for supes and clark, couldn't be more happy with the choice to cast him as far as that goes. I'm not liking the line about not being "who I am...keeping secrets". whether it's the dry robotic delivery or the line itself, I haven't dcided yet. I need to see it in context.

[jimthecomicguy]

Spacey might steal this movie!

[ultimatefan]

Routh's voice is perfect for supes and clark, couldn't be more happy with the choice to cast him as far as that goes. I'm not liking the line about not being "who I am...keeping secrets". whether it's the dry delivery or the line itself, I haven't dcided yet. I need to see it in context.
The delivery is fine to me. What I like about Routh is he clearly distincts his Superman voice from his Clark Kent one. He sounds "softer" when he´s Clark.

[deathshead2]

Routh's voice is perfect for supes. I'm not liking the line about not being who I am. whether it's the dry delivery or the line itself, I haven't dcided yet. I need to see it in context.I didn't hear enough to like it or hate im in the middle really. It just bothers me he doesn't change his voice a little for when he is clark and supes. Even though most of the time they don't change it anyway.Its just im tired of seeing people act dumb and not notice there the same person.

[Lightning54SC]

HAHAHAHA here you go people who are already dissing the movie... im sick and tired of hearing you guys ***** and moan... seriously remove yourselves from your computer, put some pants on, go talk to a girl, GET LAID and GO SEE THE MOVIE AND THEN MAKE your opinion then....Seriously you all sound like a bunch of *****y liberals and conservatives......

[deathshead2]

Spacey might steal this movie!Thats what I hope for almost sense im more of a bad guy kind of guy.

[dark_b]

Routh's voice is perfect for supes and clark, couldn't be more happy with the choice to cast him as far as that goes. I'm not liking the line about not being "who I am...keeping secrets". whether it's the dry robotic delivery or the line itself, I haven't dcided yet. I need to see it in context.you do know that there is 90% chance that this is not from the rooftop scene with lois. it was just inteh background. it could be the farm clark talking with martha.

i think we didnt hear superman talking.

[deathshead2]

HAHAHAHA here you go people who are already dissing the movie... im sick and tired of hearing you guys ***** and moan... seriously remove yourselves from your computer, put some pants on, go talk to a girl, GET LAID and GO SEE THE MOVIE AND THEN MAKE your opinion then....Seriously you all sound like a bunch of *****y liberals and conservatives......:confused: Why don't you do those things and just stop caring about what people say.

[Lightning54SC]

cuz im sick of it make a opinion when you see it

[deathshead2]

cuz im sick of it make a opinion when you see itBut they make trailors so you can judge if you want to see the movie and thats what im doing.Im judging nothing wrong with that.

[ultimatefan]

I didn't hear enough to like it or hate im in the middle really. It just bothers me he doesn't change his voice a little for when he is clark and supes. Even though most of the time they don't change it anyway.Its just im tired of seeing people act dumb and not notice there the same person.
To me he clearly changed his voice. His Clark sounds softer than his Superman.

[The Kid]

you do know that there is 90% chance that this is not from the rooftop scene with lois. it was just inteh background. it could be the farm clark talking with martha.

i think we didnt hear superman talking.

of course. that's why I said I need to see it in context.

[deathshead2]

To me he clearly changed his voice. His Clark sounds softer than his Superman.The thing was going by so fast I can't tell a difference he didn't speck enough. So i'll wait for the movie and i'll wait for what I hear.

[The Kid]

To me he clearly changed his voice. His Clark sounds softer than his Superman.

He's doing what reeve did and making his clark sound like a big dorky guy and superman sound strong and cool.

[GreenKToo]

while I somewhat agree with you about not judging the movie till you see it,I dont agree with you insulting peoples opinions.you made yours,let them make theirs.HAHAHAHA here you go people who are already dissing the movie... im sick and tired of hearing you guys ***** and moan... seriously remove yourselves from your computer, put some pants on, go talk to a girl, GET LAID and GO SEE THE MOVIE AND THEN MAKE your opinion then....Seriously you all sound like a bunch of *****y liberals and conservatives......

[Lightning54SC]

they sound like little trolls man.... people need to lossen up ITS JUST A MOVIE... i will say this movie is something big for me but cmon how much more ranting can we deal with..... ive listened to this crap for wellover 2 years and now its time to start bashing some heads in

[DorkyFresh]

it looks like Gene Hackman's Luthor is going to be mundaine compared to Kevin Spacey's Luthor. which is a good thing....i found Gene Hackman's Lex to be kinda boring...

Kevin Spacey's Luthor looks like he's gonna be out of his mind.

[Evelisse]

I thought it was good, Im sure Lex is quite calm and collective about everything, just the mere thought of Superman brings him to the edge. And if I recall, theres been times when TAS Lex has lost his cool with Superman ruining his day.

[Bad Superman]

I think Spacey's Lex is awesome. He's a mix of a genius and a psycho.

[Masut]

Kevin Spacey = Gene Hackman + Michael Rosenbaum + OMG PSYCHOTIC SPACEY MACHINE!!!!!

Spacey Wins

Flawless Victory

FATALITY



P.S. I may have played a lot of Mortal Kombat in my time.

[GreenKToo]

I bet lex will give nightmares to some.awesome.

[DorkyFresh]

I thought it was good, Im sure Lex is quite calm and collective about everything, just the mere thought of Superman brings him to the edge. And if I recall, theres been times when TAS Lex has lost his cool with Superman ruining his day.

exactly...most people don't think about the scene he's in when he's joking around with Lois Lane. he's obviously kidnapped or revealed something terrible to Lois, so he's getting excited that his 'masterplan' is actually being executed. i'm GLAD that Lex has a sense of humor...i wouldn't want Lex to be robotic and serious all the time.

i think it's a great contrast to the calm and inanimate Magneto. i'm glad Singer's allowing his villains to be different from one another...

[Kane]

Spacey's Lex is great. Why would you want the calm collected Lex again? Its already been done on TAS.


This is a totally new interpretation on Lex. Hes criminally insane, which is pretty awesome.

Hes unpredictable and who knows what may happen..

[The Kid]

My doctor told me insane's just a legal term to use when you don't want to be responsible for what you do. Lex would neveer declare that, I think. He's proud to be an a$$hole, the greatest crimminal mind or whatever he said in stm.

[bgshw44]

I thought Spacey was sadistic, and truelly enjoyed being evil. It was perfect!

[Masut]

My doctor told me insane's just a legal term to use when you don't want to be responsible for what you do. Lex would neveer declare that, I think. He's proud to be an a$$hole, the greatest crimminal mind or whatever he said in stm.

Umm ok. lol.

So have you ever been 'insane'?

[The Kid]

I don't know. Maybe I am right now.

[Masut]

lol

UH OH SPAGHETTIOS

[pspring5]

yeah i think spaceys gonna eat hackman up but reeve looks like hes still the best superman.

[Jlandsw]

He's like a combination of Michael Rosenbaum and Hackman!!! He's histerical and he's evil!!! Hackman's Luthor wasn't really evil in the menace or psycho sense, he was more funny, campy. I am looking forward to Spacey's Luthor!

[Jlandsw]

Kevin Spacey = Gene Hackman + Michael Rosenbaum + OMG PSYCHOTIC SPACEY MACHINE!!!!!

Spacey Wins

Flawless Victory

FATALITY



P.S. I may have played a lot of Mortal Kombat in my time.

I agree on both Luthor and Mortal Kombat!!

[Tony Stark]

from the trailer, the characters feel very similar

seems a little campy to me

Well it's obvious they're trying to make a direct sequal to at least the first two movies. Too bad for Spacey, I would have liked to see his own take on the character.

[The Kid]

Remember when hackman walked over to his ho after she complained about one of his missles going to kill her mom, and he just pointed to his watch and shook his head at her. That was ****ing bloody lovey to see lex do. I loved it. I hope spacey watched that and incoporated such understated disregard for anybody in New Jersey. He didn't need to yell "Nope you ho! she's practically dead already and I don't care lol" just the relaxed nother day's work attitude said it all.

[The Kid]

Shut up. tell all that to somebody who cares, wesyeed.

Anyway. Who wins the campy psychotic fight?
http://www.*********.com/files/hdd6/137302/wrooooooong.gifVShttp://www.*********.com/files/hdd6/137302/lex.gif

[ultimatefan]

Shut up. tell all that to somebody who cares, wesyeed.

Anyway. Who wins the campy psychotic fight?
http://www.*********.com/files/hdd6/137302/wrooooooong.gifVShttp://www.*********.com/files/hdd6/137302/lex.gif
Hmmm, why is it filmmakers always assume Lex has terrible taste in ties?

[explode7]

they sound like little trolls man.... people need to lossen up ITS JUST A MOVIE... i will say this movie is something big for me but cmon how much more ranting can we deal with..... ive listened to this crap for wellover 2 years and now its time to start bashing some heads in

Dude how can you be listening to this over 2 years and your join date is May 2005.:down

[Cinemaman]

Spacey is one of the best Luthors ever!

[Lightning54SC]

Dude how can you be listening to this over 2 years and your join date is May 2005.:down

hmmm hmmmm ive been reading the boards and finally had the nerve to sign up...DUHHHHH

[explode7]

So if your're fed up of listening to ppl why join? Thats really stupid dude.

[Lightning54SC]

ok its 2006 right? that must have meant that i signed up a year ago right?

im basically saying you all sound like an oldlays knitting group... serious the CGI sucked, this suck, thats sucks BLAH BLAH BLAH.. its a movie get over it.... im just standing up for the movie and will then make an opinion AFTER i see it... let the *****ing end till June 30th @ around hmmm 3:00 am when who ever sees the first shopwing comes home and give there opinions

[The Kid]

people have opinions and like to tell other people them for some reason like you just did. Tolerance of other views is what we need I thinks, biches.

[Lightning54SC]

i just want people to go into this movie open minded... if there that disappointed then DONT GO... im sure ill see it more then once and my money alone wil make up for ther ticket... just go in OPEN MINDED... people are too busy judging today before see the whole story... people just need to relax

[Mentok]

I just realised Luthors whole scene with Lois is a jab at the old Superman comics ans serials...


Lois would always get caught up in Luthors plans and Lois would always say 'Superman will never let you get away with this'.

I think the scene is more poking fun at the old comics and tv series than anything else now.

[explode7]

^ How was MI3?

[Iphus04]

I just realised Luthors whole scene with Lois is a jab at the old Superman comics ans serials...


Lois would always get caught up in Luthors plans and Lois would always say 'Superman will never let you get away with this'.

I think the scene is more poking fun at the old comics and tv series than anything else now.
I think you're right. And I think it's comforting to know that while Bryan obviously has a lot of respect for the character and the history, he's not afraid of the occasional joke at the expense of that history. That's the mark of someone who's truly secure as a filmmaker and a fan.

[Zor-El]

spacey's lex reminds me of bruce timm's idea for lex: hes a thug that wants to be taken seriously and come across classy.

[Iphus04]

spacey's lex reminds me of bruce timm's idea for lex: hes a thug that wants to be taken seriously and come across classy.
My understand of Lex can best be summed up by a comment from Willem Dafoe. When asked if he prefered playing heroes or villains, he replied:

"Don't make no difference. Everyone thinks they're righteous."

That's how I understand Lex.

[Hunter Rider]

In the first part of the trailer i saw a sinister Lex,in the latter part a campy pantomime baddy,i hope we get more of the former

It seems that more of Hackman was channeled than John Doe

[Iphus04]

In the first part of the trailer i saw a sinister Lex,in the latter part a campy pantomime baddy,i hope we get more of the former

It seems that more of Hackman was channeled than John Doe
There was nothing wrong with Gene Hackman's Lex - left to his own devices he was by turns funny and menacing. It's all in the eyes. The problem was the fact that he was surrounded by too much buffoonery to be a credible threat.

[Hunter Rider]

There was nothing wrong with Gene Hackman's Lex - left to his own devices he was by turns funny and menacing. It's all in the eyes. The problem was the fact that he was surrounded by too much buffoonery to be a credible threat.
That would be an opinion,i prefer post crisis Lex personally and was hoping since this is a modern movie Spacey might follow that

[Prognosticator]

I haven't read this thread yet, but i just saw the title and wanted to chime in since i watched the trailer last night:

Lowest Point of the Trailer - Kevin Spacey ACTING LIKE GENE HACKMAN acting like Lex Luthor but with a 1970s-cheese-style acting...back before they took villain material like this seriously!

OMFG it was lame!!! I tried to block it out, but this thread just struck a cord in me! Lord have mercy, I hope the rest of his Lex performance doesn't emulate like this!

[KalMart]

Well it's obvious they're trying to make a direct sequal to at least the first two movies. Too bad for Spacey, I would have liked to see his own take on the character.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2642/get37zx.gif

[Fatboy Roberts]

I'm telling you, this has nothing to do with Gene Hackman, and everything to do with Spacey's portrayal of a Hollywood agent in "Swimming with Sharks"

Serious. Watch that movie. You'll spot a LOT of the mannerisms from the trailer.

[Super_Child]

Kevin Spaceys Lex seems nothing like Hackmans Campy Lex. He seems much more sinister and I hope people don't start calling him LINO.....

[ITG]

I've said it once and I shall say it again-

Spacey (Luthor) is the new Mcdiarmid (Palpatine). Twisted and evil :up:

Go easy on me. I'm new. :O

[The Guard]

Not psychotic, people. HEDONISTIC. Camp my ass.

[Oldguy]

I see more psychotic than camp. I guess if you want to see camp, thats what you will see.

It works both ways you know? If you want to see psychotic, that's what you will see.

[Hunter Rider]

It works both ways you know? If you want to see psychotic, that's what you will see.
It's not psychotic anymore it's Hedonistic apparently

[Warhammer]

I hope Kevin Spacey isnt the Campy Lex Luthor.
I wish he was more of the DCAU version of Lex.

[M.O.Steel]

if you guys watch STM closely, take away the cheesy music, otis, the weird clothes, he's actually not a bad lex. it's just too much extra crap they put around great characters.

[Desk]

As anticipated, Spacey is playing this role in the style of a camp "bwooh-hah-hah-hah-hah...!" pantomime villain ("pantomime" being a reference that US readers may not get).

Check out Dustin Hoffman as the eponymous Captain in Steven Spielberg's 1991 Peter Pan film Hook for an idea of what to expect.

[SingItWithMeNow]

youve got to remember, Hackman did almost succeed in blowing half of the USA off the map. that's pretty scary.

[BrollySupersj]

I'm excited to see Spacey as Luthor. I like in the trailer where he says "bring it on!!" I'll bet thats some of the small humor this movie will have, Either way, IMO luthor to me is looking right on track.

[BizarroAids]

In the first couple of scenes he's playing it great, very sinister, very villianous like. I don't really see the campiness of it, just Spacey having fun with the character. I personally think Spacey will be great. And besides, we only saw a few seconds of him.:up:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Heh my Dad viewed it and said "I liked Gene Hackman's Lex better, Kevin Spacey's is a little too dark."

:)

[Eros]

i personally think John sheas Lex luthor from Lois is clark is the best version, but spacey lex seems funny and interesting.

[Metropolis_Man]

Hackman looks like a hero next to Spaceys villain from what I've seen so far.

[JackBauer]

it's a different Luthor altogether. Spacey's Luthor is definitely the craziest Luthor I've ever seen, but I love how he played it. he is a threat because, being bats#!t f***in loco, he's just unpredictable.

[Masut]

ok its 2006 right? that must have meant that i signed up a year ago right?

im basically saying you all sound like an oldlays knitting group... serious the CGI sucked, this suck, thats sucks BLAH BLAH BLAH.. its a movie get over it.... im just standing up for the movie and will then make an opinion AFTER i see it... let the *****ing end till June 30th @ around hmmm 3:00 am when who ever sees the first shopwing comes home and give there opinions

Give me a moment and I'll knit you a splendid sweater. What colours would you like?

[BrollySupersj]

Hackman looks like a hero next to Spaceys villain from what I've seen so far.

Yo MM, like me new avatar :up: Kudos to Hunter Rider, he really is good.

[Spare-Flair]

I don't want some pre-crisis laughing clownish Super-villain.

I want a truely evil Lex with a icy stare that can crush by the sheer power behind his name. I want the machinating villain and industrialist that is in control of all his human faculties and ultimately hateful of Superman usurping his place as the reciever of glory.

I don't want the Hackman Lex but Singer has delivered just that Ugg.

[Sub-Zero]

he's more cynical imo. and has this holier than thou attitude.

[The Kid]

like hackman.

[Mentok]

^ How was MI3?

Alot better than I thought it would be. Its the best of teh series and only falls over a few times in the middle of the film.

8.5/10 from me :up:

[Mentok]

It works both ways you know? If you want to see psychotic, that's what you will see.

As I already said, thats not what I wanted to see in him with the trailer.

[Masut]

Alot better than I thought it would be. Its the best of teh series and only falls over a few times in the middle of the film.

8.5/10 from me :up:

I loved it. I give it an 8.9. But I rate the first one about 9.2. I just love it.

[Netmaster]

Gene Hackman while being a good Lex, played him as a very sane villian. Hackman Lex knew exactly what he was doing at all times, and he just didn't care how many people got hurt. He could really care less, and the people dieing really didn't matter to him. All that mattered was if his plan was going to work or not. He didn't care if the people lived or died. It didn't effect him one way or the other.

Kevin Spacey Lex is completely sadistic! The prospect of billions of people dieing actually excites him! His demenor and expressions clearly tell you that this is a man that has gone off the deep end. All the years in prison have just made the man more oblivious to the harm he inflicts. It has gotten to the point that he loves hurting people!

For the first time in any medium, this Lex Luthor actually seems dangerous to me. He actually scares me. He is a psychopathic genius. I love this Lex Luthor!

[The Kid]

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2642/get37zx.gif

[KalMart]

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2642/get37zx.gif

Hey, I made that! :)

[Octoberist]

While I"m not a fan of Hackman's portrayal of Luthor, I'm looking foward to Spacey's take on the character.

I wasn't 'threatened' by Hackman's Lex at all. I hope that Spacey will rule all.

[LostSon88]

Spacey kinda reminded me of Rosenbaums portrayal of Lex in the episdoe, "Shattered" when he was going nutso...specifically the scene when he confronts Lionel in Luthorcorp with a gun.

Oh and another thing...they're still pronouncing it LuthER in Superman Returns?

[Admiral_N8]

Spacey might steal this movie!

I hope so.

[Admiral_N8]

I've said it once and I shall say it again-

Spacey (Luthor) is the new Mcdiarmid (Palpatine). Twisted and evil :up:

Go easy on me. I'm new. :O

Ha I like that.

Cuz Palpatine was calm and collected sometimes, but sometimes he would go fricking crazy in Star Wars 3....just like Luthor, sometimes calm but sometimes crazy.

Good comparison :up: :up:

[The Kid]

comparing singer's work to geroge's prequel movies? I heart that not.
The emperor lost every ounce of calm and collected evilness he built up once he started all that cartoonish baffoonery during the yoda fight. He became a clown, a power ranger villian. MAKE MY DEATH STAR GRooooooooooOW! oh god don't let that happen to lex.

[Fatboy Roberts]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114594/

Seriously. I know I'm harping on this, but you guys--rent the movie. Watch. You'll get a REALLY good idea what you're in for.

Kevin Spacey is playing Buddy Ackerman playing Lex Luthor.

[Oldguy]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114594/

Seriously. I know I'm harping on this, but you guys--rent the movie. Watch. You'll get a REALLY good idea what you're in for.

Kevin Spacey is playing Buddy Ackerman playing Lex Luthor.

Hey Fatboy, want to know a sure fire way to get a thread deleted? Ask BT if he is on the SR payroll.

Poof, deleted faster than a speeding bullet.

[Fatboy Roberts]

That's--interesting knowledge.

Although I was wondering where that thread went.

[skruloos]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114594/

Seriously. I know I'm harping on this, but you guys--rent the movie. Watch. You'll get a REALLY good idea what you're in for.

Kevin Spacey is playing Buddy Ackerman playing Lex Luthor.
Really great movie. Watch it for one of the best torture scenes in a movie.

"Shut up, listen, and learn."

[Michael Corleone]

Hey Fatboy, want to know a sure fire way to get a thread deleted? Ask BT if he is on the SR payroll.

Poof, deleted faster than a speeding bullet.

Indeed it did. Must be Wabbit season at Warner bros? ugh...bad joke bad joke.....I need someone to slap me on that one.

[Spare-Flair]

Well, it seems Singer is really going for a pre-crisis homage, makes sense if he's taking the old movies and also the really old costume and the clownish Lex.

Disappointing however. I guess a cute/shy/clumsy Clark Kent and a crazy and over the top expressive villain (See Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey as Two Face and Riddler urrrrrk!!!!) is more appealing to audiences? I HOPE NOT!

[Masut]

EDIT - *Testing* couldn't post before

[skruloos]

Well, it seems Singer is really going for a pre-crisis homage, makes sense if he's taking the old movies and also the really old costume and the clownish Lex.

Disappointing however. I guess a cute/shy/clumsy Clark Kent and a crazy and over the top expressive villain (See Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey as Two Face and Riddler urrrrrk!!!!) is more appealing to audiences? I HOPE NOT!
I guess you could use those examples. Or you could also use Joker and Green Goblin crazy type villains. Hell, even Doc Ock was pretty over the top.

[MaskedManJRK]

Here's what I got from Spacey's portryal in the trailer:

Some of the most sadistic, twisted serial killers in history did not, on first glance, seem very crazy at all. In fact, they were often charming and sophisticated--only when they are set off do you really see the monster within.

In the first scenes, he seems very calm and collected--not exactly "evil," just very driven and cunning. In fact, in the beginning of the Lois and Lex scene, he seemed very good natured--only at the mention of Superman did Lex just snap and yell at her.

He is a very evil man, but he has enough charm to make it seem less aparent, and it's only the mention of Superman where he really goes berserk.

[Vile]

The character could have been plenty 'insane' without Spacey having to hop, skip and almost break into dance...gimme a break.

Lex's insanity, to me anyways, was his singular goal to destroy superman...no matter what he had to do and how many people were slaughtered in the process - screaming at lois and a kid, giggling...this is sheer camp-factor and nothing else.

[Spare-Flair]

I guess you could use those examples. Or you could also use Joker and Green Goblin crazy type villains. Hell, even Doc Ock was pretty over the top.

The point is that the Joker and the Green Goblin are supposed to be over the top borderline insane. So is Doc Ock to a degree (and his presentation in Spider-Man 2 was pretty bad).

This is Lex Luthor - possibly the smartest human in control of all his faculties. He has no need for the whole song and dance routine and giddy maniac behavior. I don't want the Gene Hackman characterization. I'm not decided on the Clark yet, but I suppose people will want the pre-crisis clumsy mild-mannered Clark routine and I can live with that.

[Spare-Flair]

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2341/vlcsnap1086667fm.jpg

Oh great, didn't Luthor learn anything from Superman I???

Why is it the same plot again??? Oh gee, not the stupid going to blow off a part of the land mass of the United States (when it is impossible since it is connected to the earth's crust) evil plot again. Even the original Superman's plot was more realistic because it dealt with the San Andreas Fault.

He just decided to go with the other side of the country this time to create his private real estate instead of dropping California into the ocean to make his land beachfront property.

[Superman79]

the wroooooooong line was incredible. from mr. nice guy to a mutha***er.

AMEN :up::up:

It was a complete 180 in behavior that made me watch just that segment over and over...it's teh Maniacal Luthor we've waited for!!

[The Guard]

He's just being a hedonist, and enjoying having the upper hand. It's not camp, and he's not going to be dancing around in every scene. Get over it. It's pretty much right in character, and Spacey's interpretation certainly works in context.

[The Kid]

You're always right and I know it, but there's something in my head that says I wish he did it more like nolan or himself even. Make lex like ra's or

magneto too... he's good with villians.

He should have been like magneto. in m y oopinion