Now that we see the costume in action, still think the same? [Archive]

SUPERSEBAS

05-04-2006, 12:49 AM

First, I would like to say that what I see in the trailer was beautiful and great!!! But, we still think that the costume is not so good a and imponent as we whant ? Brandon really looks like superman? or we what so bad to see superman again in the big screen that we take anything!

Bryan Singer say that we have to see the costume in action to say if we like it or not ; a lot of people bay that and some others like me not, I say then and I can say now that just some photos was enough to know that the costume is not good, we thing and imagine a very imposing costume, and what I see is a very good scenes with very strong action, beautiful images, the fortress for example was amazing, very imposing, with great dimetions.

So... if thy made that with the fortress, why they donsent made the same with the look of superman? the action and what superman do was strong and powerfull, but not his look.

In some sceenes, brandon looks like Superman for a few seconds, but not mostly. What brandon routh need to look more like superman, is to have a better hairlook and his color must to be black, because wen he have a strong ligth on him, the hair looks brown, and some times, a very clear brown, and that is not superman. the hair look is very important. Every detail on the costume and the head is very important, that was a concept that Donner have, and singer need to have to.

The last thing that made the costume look bad, are the proportons, that would be how big is the S, the boots, the short or the belt are located over the of Routh`s body.

So, I dont know what you guy think now, but this what I think now that I see the costume in action, the movie is going to be great, but the costume is the same bad design!

Knightsaber Priss

05-04-2006, 12:51 AM

Well, I haven't gotten to see the previews because for some odd reason even though I have the most recent update pf Quicktime, whenever I download trailers, all I get is a question mark.

MatchesMalone

05-04-2006, 12:53 AM

I like the costume, except the shield is a bit too plastic looking. Would have preferred it to be less embossed, closer to the chest.

I like Routh's look, but he does look rather young. And, I have to say it, he doesn't hold a candle to Reeve. Nobody I know of does, and I am fairly happy with his look. The effects look amazing, and I love the colors of the suit.

The Kid

05-04-2006, 12:56 AM

he looks fabulous, darling.

insaneMoViEgoer

05-04-2006, 01:26 AM

i hated the costume when the first image hit. but after a while it grew on me, and seeing it in action was amazing

BlueTights

05-04-2006, 01:28 AM

I still love it. It's got Fleischer written all over it

igotatromboner

05-04-2006, 01:29 AM

He looks fine, but they have to give him a hair cut in the sequel.

The Caped Knight

05-04-2006, 01:33 AM

The suit look's SUPER !!!

Wushuboy

05-04-2006, 01:38 AM

Agreed with pretty much everything supersebas said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/routh.jpg
Superman? not quite yet.

The Kid

05-04-2006, 01:45 AM

lol yes that's superboy but he looked like superman when he was constipated.

the costume looks good when he's in daylight and the neckline's tightness isn't too apparent. i've only got a small res vid of it so its hard to judge.

Masut

05-04-2006, 01:46 AM

The only thing I don't like is that in the pictures his suit has vibrant reds in it, but in action it's bland again. Have all the official pictures been edited to bring out more reds? And will they add anything to the final cut of the film to bring out the reds more, like the pictures show?

dark_b

05-04-2006, 02:05 AM

Agreed with pretty much everything supersebas said.

Superman? not quite yet.i agree with that :rolleyes:

http://www.christopherreevelegacy.com/gallery/images/Donner-years/metropolis/nightflight/balcony1.jpg

The Kid

05-04-2006, 02:08 AM

I thought he looked like supes during this part.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7698/supermanfart2it.gif

what say you, superbas?

Masut

05-04-2006, 02:10 AM

That GIF is funny! The pic of Reeve above your post is very scary and disturbing to me.

SuperNewGuy

05-04-2006, 02:18 AM

My minor gripes I had with the suit didn't bother me simply because the trailer was just so freakin' cool!!! The suit did look way better in action than it did in that first horrible picture that came out. I still don't know why they ever released that pic, it just made the suit look way worse than it actually is.

Wushuboy

05-04-2006, 02:24 AM

That GIF is funny! The pic of Reeve above your post is very scary and disturbing to me.

yeah.. caped wonder tends to overcompensate on the colors making them look too saturated.

05-04-2006, 02:46 AM

Agreed with pretty much everything supersebas said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/routh.jpg
Superman? not quite yet.

man, people have latched onto this one photo pretty srongly. Routh looks way better in just about every other shot, but somehow everyone picks this one to "prove" that he doesn't look like Superman. There isn't even a context for this shot... for all we know it's in a flashback scene.

Masut

05-04-2006, 02:47 AM

man, people have latched onto this one photo pretty srongly. Routh looks way better in just about every other shot, but somehow everyone picks this one to "prove" that he doesn't look like Superman. There isn't even a context for this shot... for all we know it's in a flashback scene.

Yeah I know. There's bad shot's of any actor we could throw up for criticism. Routh does look different in nearly every scene though, it's quite bizzare.

05-04-2006, 02:48 AM

i agree with that :rolleyes:

http://www.christopherreevelegacy.com/gallery/images/Donner-years/metropolis/nightflight/balcony1.jpg

again... measuring the weakest Routh shot with an awesome Reeve shot... that's objectivity working at its highest level right there....

Masut

05-04-2006, 02:49 AM

again... measuring the weakest Routh shot with an awesome Reeve shot... that's objectivity working at its highest level right there....

I really don't like that shot of Reeve. He looks freaky in some pics

05-04-2006, 02:49 AM

Yeah I know. There's bad shot's of any actor we could throw up for criticism. Routh does look different in nearly every scene though, it's quite bizzare.

If that isn't in a flashback (it really looks like they are *trying* to make Routh look young here) then they really flubbed by putting it in the trailer. You should never put weak shots into a trailer... people make their opinions before they see a movie and it doesn't help.

The Kid

05-04-2006, 02:54 AM

i don't see anything wron with tha shot of reeve. what's wrong with it?

Masut

05-04-2006, 02:56 AM

i don't see anything wron with tha shot of reeve. what's wrong with it?

I don't know, lol. I just find it freaky. There's other shots too

BareKnucklez

05-04-2006, 02:57 AM

Agreed with pretty much everything supersebas said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/routh.jpg
Superman? not quite yet.

He looks awful in that picture... That is NOT Superman to me... :o:down

millennium movies

05-04-2006, 04:42 AM

^ I hate it. He looks like he's wearing mascara, eyes look brown, eyebrows look unatural as well as the chin area looks thinner than usual. He has a little "feminin glow" to his face there, almost as if he's pulling a "blue steel", strange. Why couldnt they CGI his eyes to blue so that it would look more natural? Ah decisions...

Bad Superman

05-04-2006, 06:52 AM

While I was one who opposed the design, I've come to accept it.

As for the colors, I still think the inner tone (brighter) in the cape should be the red tone for the whole suit (the cape, \S/, trunks and boots).

GarudA

05-04-2006, 07:00 AM

i agree with that :rolleyes:

http://www.christopherreevelegacy.com/gallery/images/Donner-years/metropolis/nightflight/balcony1.jpg

Even in that shot Reeves looks a MAN, a bit younger, but no way the same as the shot of Routh as he looks 15.

user123456789

05-04-2006, 07:10 AM

Masut

05-04-2006, 07:15 AM

What scene is that from anyway? The constipated what... i wonder what he's doing?

It looks like either someone's died, or he's been hurt physically quite badly.

SUPERSEBAS

05-04-2006, 09:33 AM

I thought he looked like supes during this part.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7698/supermanfart2it.gif

what say you, superbas?

the images from the trailer were I see Routh as superman are this

http://img420.imageshack.us/img420/5646/15sz.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1696/20he1.jpg

http://img420.imageshack.us/img420/3530/34pm1.jpg

on this last photo he looks as superman, but the s im the belt is a child factor, that take off the dramatic quality on that scene, the s in the belt is the first thing that I woild like to take off.

And this are the promotional photos were I see brandon as superman!

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9339/46en.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3872/55va.jpg

Cinemaman

05-04-2006, 09:54 AM

The suit looks awesome, especially in action shots! I love it and prefer it more than Reeve's suit.

BrollySupersj

05-04-2006, 10:09 AM

I think the suit is looking pretty good. EVEN my brother who is "die superman die" has now agreed that the movie is looking pretty damn good. Routh,Lex,The trailer, the suit, it's all working wonders on my part.

DorkyFresh

05-04-2006, 10:27 AM

i still have my issues with the suit, but they're so mundaine that when i watch the trailer, i don't care anymore...

...the MAIN elements of the suit are there, and that's all that matters to me. plus, the materials make the suit look spiffy!

ROBOCOP CPU001

05-04-2006, 11:58 AM

It looks fantastic..

if they used a reeve looking one.. as cool as it was in 78..it wouldn't look cool now.

mclay18

05-04-2006, 12:01 PM

Routh still looks good in the suit. He looks like Christopher Reeve at times (as well as Tom Welling in places) and the minor changes to the suit do make him look better. And the flying CGI looks good as well...

The Kid

05-04-2006, 12:09 PM

the images from the trailer were I see Routh as superman are this
on this last photo he looks as superman, but the s im the belt is a child factor, that take off the dramatic quality on that scene, the s in the belt is the first thing that I woild like to take off.

And this are the promotional photos were I see brandon as superman!

yah they gotta lose the tacky s on the belt for sure. He looks much less boyish in those pics. I'm glad because he actually won't be superboy for some shots at least, and hopefully all of them when the movie finally gets here.:up:

Lightning54SC

05-04-2006, 12:13 PM

The new suit is much better i think then reeves... the old suit was good for its time... the new one i think is perfect except for the belt S and the darker red which should be lightened up a bit otherwise i like the red undees much better and the blue is much better as well

CGHulk

05-04-2006, 12:18 PM

Agreed with pretty much everything supersebas said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/routh.jpg
Superman? not quite yet.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2389/superman04ee.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

gdw

05-04-2006, 12:21 PM

Neckline is still bull *****.

Other then that, looks great.

Nerial

05-04-2006, 12:21 PM

Honestly, I've never been a big fan of the suit one way or the other. The only reason I didn't really want it changed is because it's his traditional costume.

Saying that, I HATED the suit when I first saw it. I was like, "Okay, either change the whole thing completely, or leave it alone." What's there to really modify?

Now that I've seen it more, I realize that it wasn't the suit I hated--it was the first promo shot! It just looks silly with his arms at his waist and him looking up at the sky.

Now that I've seen the flying and that cape flowing in the wind--the suit is no longer an issue.

Agnarr

05-04-2006, 01:07 PM

TheCalling

05-04-2006, 01:19 PM

Well i like the suit but i still prefer a brighter red. But hey, can't win 'em all.

Cinemaman

05-04-2006, 01:20 PM

The Kid

05-04-2006, 01:37 PM

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2389/superman04ee.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Is this supposed to be a bad phot of reeve? :confused:

Lightning54SC

05-04-2006, 01:42 PM

no its supposed to show how young he looks in that shot compared to routh... i still think routh looks liek hes 12 in the pic above

ultimatefan

05-04-2006, 01:45 PM

The suit integrates well with the cinematography of the movie, if the colors were too bright it would look awkward. I still wish the red was just a little bit lighter, though.

CGHulk

05-04-2006, 01:45 PM

According to Donner in the audio commentary on the DVD, this is his favorite shot of Reeve in the whole movie! I have to agree with him!

DorkyFresh

05-04-2006, 01:50 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/routh.jpg
Superman? not quite yet.

nice how you conveniently took the worst shot of him...

...anyway, the only things that look really bad are his hair and neck thickness. hair is easily fixed...i dunno if it's possible to workout your neck to get it thicker, hehe....but it's really not that bad, see?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/supmanip1.jpg

batman44

05-04-2006, 01:51 PM

The suit looks pretty darn good to me, though I still wish the red was abit lighter and the gold/ yellow \s/ was on the cape.

Jlandsw

05-04-2006, 01:53 PM

As far as the costume. In some stills it looks really bad (that maroon-ish color) but in action it looks really good. For example, the scene with the plane. The shot where he pulls apart the broken wing, the cape actually looks more red than maroon. And I am very happy about that.

Hunter Rider

05-04-2006, 02:15 PM

I never really took any notice of it in the trailer so i guess it was fine

green

05-04-2006, 02:24 PM

The only thing Im not really crazy about with the suit is the way the cape seems to change. Sometimes it looks thin and light and other times it looks kinda heavy...no big deal though, hopefully it will look consistant after post.

Il_Siciliano

05-04-2006, 02:34 PM

When Routh is standing on the rooftop in the trailer during the Lois scene with his arms crossed, tell me that's not just as 'Superman' as the best of Reeve shots. Somebody should find it and post it. For every pic in which he looks bad there's more in which he looks good IMO

Lightning54SC

05-04-2006, 03:26 PM

also post a pic of lois on his feet in the air in front of the globe would be awsome as well

Nightwing1977

05-04-2006, 03:41 PM

Agreed with pretty much everything supersebas said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/wushuboy/routh.jpg
Superman? not quite yet.

I love how biased people are with saying a bad pic or look like there as proof of him not looking Supermanish. Apparently, you refuse to look at other better pics that made him look a lot like Superman should look. If you're going to say he don't look like Superman, don't use just 1 or 2 bad pics to prove it. I'm sure there were some pics of Reeve that look crap & he doesn't look like Supermanish. :p

buggs0268

05-04-2006, 03:46 PM

I still hate the suit. I like Routh, I just hate the suit. And I still don't get why people still call it the REEVE ONE as that is the suit out of the comics from 1945 (with the shiled on the back of th cape added in the 50's to today). So that is the superman suit. This is Singers version, where as Donner's was the suit. Pick up any Supers comic and you dont see the S on the belt, a 3d shield, crew neck, thick boot botttoms, snake sink on the boots, etc. What you see is what was the Reeve suit.

And don't jump on me. This thread is asking an opinion based on seeing the trailer, and I am giving it.

buggs0268

05-04-2006, 03:55 PM

That's just a bad shot. Remember how good he looks when he meets Lois? I'm glad they went with a darker design for the suit; imho, the suit in STM was just way, way too bright (I understand the factors behind it, but still). This suit has really grown on me. At first I was like, "What the . . ." but now I am very pleased. Its just strange how it changes color--some scenes it looks a vibrant red, which is just perfect, and others the whole thing is washed-out.
The factors for the suit in the 78 movie? There are no factors behind it. They chose those colors as that is the color of the suit were and are to this day.
http://www.thekryptonian.com/images/costumes/1971.jpghttp://www.supermanartists.comics.org/DCHISTORY/superman30s-70s.jpg
and they were the same color s in the 50's
http://www.thekryptonian.com/images/costumes/1953.jpg
There were no factors other than Donner slamming a comic down and saying "make this exactly".
http://www.christopherreevelegacy.com/gallery/images/Donner-years/metropolis/tunnel/street_2.jpg
I don't udnerstand. You guys make it like air, water, etc were different in the 70's. Somehow our vision was worse in the 70's. Again, he made exactly what was in the comics from 1942 to that day, to today. There were no factors.

Lightning54SC

05-04-2006, 04:09 PM

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2681/untitled63uw.gif

heres a better pic....

Lightning54SC

05-04-2006, 04:10 PM

its not that bad... i mean he looks my age now that i look better at it.. but i know Reeves will always be #1

DorkyFresh

05-04-2006, 04:18 PM

its not that bad... i mean he looks my age now that i look better at it.. but i know Reeves will always be #1
c'mon people...

...it's REEVE. no "s" at the end! hehe

Mr. Thing

05-04-2006, 04:26 PM

c'mon people...

...it's REEVE. no "s" at the end! hehe

Could be refering to George Reeves.

JamalYIgle

05-04-2006, 05:25 PM

Looks Like Superman to me.http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Superman-Returns_21.jpg
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Morgoth

05-04-2006, 05:26 PM

too many are comparing him to Reeve, I don't think this would've been done as much if it wasn't suppose to be connected to the previous movies, fans of the old movies want to see someone to be more like him since he's taking over that part in that continuity.

I think some would've compared him to Reeve if this was a total revamp, but not as much. It really should've been a clean slate.

I for one, hated the suit and Routh at first but I'm liking it all a bit more, some shots in the new trailer made me want to see this movie more, but alot of it made me feel like it was a remake of the first film.

All I can say is Routh is at least better in his role than that new Bond. Imagine if they had cast say, some blonde 20 year old for Kal-El, that would've been horrible, and at least he's not Nick Cage, and as for the suit, it reminds me of Curt Swan somewhat, and a few classic looks of Supes.

I think they should've held back on all the S's.

Bryan did the same thing with X-men, he said look for the X's, they're everywhere. And he had X's all over the place, but it should be about the character and story, not about the logo.

But Singer really doesn't get these comic characters, he does his own thing and the fans get robbed of what could have been a big revamp, fresh super-movie.:supes:

Wushuboy

05-04-2006, 05:44 PM

I love how biased people are with saying a bad pic or look like there as proof of him not looking Supermanish. Apparently, you refuse to look at other better pics that made him look a lot like Superman should look. If you're going to say he don't look like Superman, don't use just 1 or 2 bad pics to prove it. I'm sure there were some pics of Reeve that look crap & he doesn't look like Supermanish. :p

This coming from someone who's a "Defender of Singer's Vision." Don't be calling me biased when you're just as biased as anyone here. AT least I'm not affiliated with any one group. And you are quick to assume that I've refused to look at any other pics. There are only a handful of pics where I feel Routh does look like superman. Most of them posted by Supersebas. If I refuse to look at better pics as you assume I do, then you refuse to see any bad pics since well you are a defender of singer's vision. Another thing, that picture is an actual pic from the movie so im not even using those bad studio photos to compare. I think it's fair to compare actual film shots than publicity photos as it's a better representation of what we'll see.

Lazlo Panaflex

05-04-2006, 06:06 PM

People might be complaining that Routh looks too young or too "pretty boyish" in that pic, but don't forget that C Reeve was also a "pretty boy" and matured along in the sequels, give Routh some time.

It could've been worse if Nicolas Cage was cast with his big shnozz.

tonytr1687

05-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Wushuboy

05-04-2006, 06:56 PM

Okay I gotta ask...why do u ppl care about the neckline? Its a ****ING NECKLINE for crying out loud! Does it really make a difference that its a bit higher?

Take some classes on design and you'll understand. It's a classic design element of the costume that seems to have been disregarded. Superman has always been popularly depicted as having a wide open neckline but instead they chose to give him a tshirt like neckline. This has been debated to death.

The Kid

05-04-2006, 07:50 PM

Okay I gotta ask...why do u ppl care about the neckline? Its a ****ING NECKLINE for crying out loud! Does it really make a difference that its a bit higher? In fact, theres not even a big difference (in all aspects) between the Reeves suit and Rouths suit. Do you guys really care that the red is a little darker? Or that the logo is just a little smaller? Or that theres an S on the belt? These are the most trivial things I've ever heard and the whiners sound pathetic.

well for one it's not like the classic suit, but more importantly the neckline makes him seem more angelic, elegant as well as alien. The cape flows from out from his shoulders/pecks rather than hang off the back lookign like a napkin you'd tuck into your shirt during dinner. And that's just the way I prefer it personally.

Well people complain. Nothing you can do about it but complain too I guess.:confused:

Wushuboy

05-04-2006, 08:03 PM

In fact, theres not even a big difference (in all aspects) between the Reeves suit and Rouths suit. Do you guys really care that the red is a little darker? Or that the logo is just a little smaller? Or that theres an S on the belt? These are the most trivial things I've ever heard and the whiners sound pathetic.

Yes it does matter to the look of the character. Design especially for clothing does make an impact and affects the way we feel about people. If they didnt feel it made a difference why did they change it in the first place? It's a design and design choices can be good or bad. Some of the design choices were good.. some bad. Here's an example... why the hell do manufacturers make jeans in so many different shades of blue? Does it really matter? Apparently it does to consumers otherwise companies wouldnt make such a variety. What makes you choose one pair of jean over another? Little things like shades of colors do matter because it affects how you feel. The costume designers believed what they created and changed would please all fans... they thought wrong.

And your whining about whining.. who's more pathetic?

SolidSnakeMGS

05-04-2006, 09:32 PM

It's interesting that when you see young Clark sail through the air at the beginning of the trailer, you hear this rather unflattering, unpleasant half-swoosh sound, yet when you see Superman, it's a wonderful full swoosh. I think they're implying a purpose to the cape, as in it helps with aerodynamic drag or something.

A page out of Batman Begins?