Official New Brotherhood Member thread

[MoiBijou]

sorin, now that dude needs a haircut!

Ah, OK. Nah, he looks funny with that "wig". He played in FC Barcelona before Villareal and we used to say Jesus Christ was playing in our team. :D

[aaron]

lol, u support barca?

[eXperiment]

Very good :up::up::up::up:


That's all you have to do Brett.

No lines needed. Just put that on screen for 10 seconds and you'll make everyone happy.:O

Yep, that looks cool.

[MoiBijou]

lol, u support barca?

Yep, Barça, Barça. Barça! :D May 17th, Arsenal will know what it means to have Eto'o and Ronaldinho in the same team. ;)

[aaron]

do u remember that i support arsenal? omg, the shh football rivalry begins

lehmann, eboue, toure, campbell, cole, hleb, gilberto, fabregas, ljungberg, reyes and henry

and youre gonna regret letting fabregas go a few years ago!

[Mr. Terrific]

looks like Forge to me, which would be cool.

[Iceman]

No Messi :(

[MoiBijou]

do u remember that i support arsenal? omg, the shh football rivalry begins

lehmann, eboue, toure, campbell, cole, hleb, gilberto, fabregas, ljungberg, reyes and henry

and youre gonna regret letting fabregas go a few years ago!

We've won La Liga this year... and remember: Henry could be playing in Barça next year. ;)

Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Larsson, Belleti, Silvihno, Van Bommel, Giuly, Messi... *ahem*

We'll see who's the best European team in two weeks... http://www.emoticones.com/deportes_juegos/emoticon_campeon.gif

[xwolverine2]

maybe we will know on the x3dvd commentary

[aaron]

We've won La Liga this year... and remember: Henry could be playing in Barça next year. ;)

Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Larsson, Belleti, Silvihno, Van Bommel, Giuly, Messi... *ahem*

We'll see who's the best European team in two weeks... http://www.emoticones.com/deportes_juegos/emoticon_campeon.gif
henry is staying, no doubt in my mind, reyes is gonna cause you trouble down the left wing

[Antrax255]

Phat?

[Aiden]

We've won La Liga this year... and remember: Henry could be playing in Barça next year. ;)

Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Larsson, Belleti, Silvihno, Van Bommel, Giuly, Messi... *ahem*

We'll see who's the best European team in two weeks... http://www.emoticones.com/deportes_juegos/emoticon_campeon.gifhttp://www.nogomania.com/pic/igralci_tuji/larsson.jpg:D :up:

[MoiBijou]

henry is staying, no doubt in my mind, reyes is gonna cause you trouble down the left wing

We know Reyes better than anyone: remember, he's in the Spanish team, we know all his secrets...

Also, we know Henry met one of Barcelona's direction members on March and they talked and talked...

We know a lot of things... *evil laugh* http://www.2ni2.com/emoticon/humor/risa14.gif

[Mr. Terrific]

i dont think he'll be kid omega.

[aaron]

We know Reyes better than anyone: remember, he's in the Spanish team, we know all his secrets...

Also, we know Henry met one of Barcelona's direction members on March and they talked and talked...

We know a lot of things... *evil laugh* http://www.2ni2.com/emoticon/humor/risa14.gif
shutup evil girl!! lol
hes staying, well we'll know soon enough

whats reyes record against barca when he played for sevilla?

[MoiBijou]

http://www.nogomania.com/pic/igralci_tuji/larsson.jpg:D :up:

He said good-bye to all the Barcelona fans in the field today at the end of the match. We'll miss him: he's a great player, but he wants to come back Sweden, his home. :(

[Aiden]

He said good-bye to all the Barcelona fans in the field today at the end of the match. We'll miss him: he's a great player, but he wants to come back Sweden, his home. :(Yeah, He always talked about going back to Helsingborg. It really speaks for his talent that he can overcome a serious injury and play for Barcelona

[MoiBijou]

shutup evil girl!! lol
hes staying, well we'll know soon enough

whats reyes record against barca when he played for sevilla?

I think he never scored a goal to Barça, but in four seasons he scored 21 goals.

[Mr. Terrific]

Cool avatar, Moibijou

[MoiBijou]

Cool avatar, Moibijou

Thanks! Alucard from Hellsing manga. Love it. :O

[aaron]

I think he never scored a goal to Barça, but in four seasons he scored 21 goals.
thats why we bought him!

[MoiBijou]

thats why we bought him!

He's great, for this we chose him for Germany world championship. :up:

[YAVANNA]

hey people i managed this from one of the trailers
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/ramcibella/X-Men/Cosas%20Varias%20Para%20Postear/Imagen1.jpg

now wonderfull but i hope it will contribute to further discussion!

Moi i like Alucard a lot, but i still prefer Larva from Miyu!! ;)

[WorthyStevens]

Can someone clear that pic up a bit?

[theJust]

its avalanche.

[Exploding Boy]

He looks like Rictor

[Specter313]

its avalanche.

Except for the fact he's not.

[Exploding Boy]

The polls options are the worst ever.

And why would they have Avalanche and Arclight?

And Rictor for that matter, it just looks like him, it would be stupid if it was him.

[WorthyStevens]

I really have no idea who that kid could be.

[imaperson2]

hes a hot emo guy! duH!

[lordofthenerds]

I really have no idea who that kid could be.
Neither do I. He's probably some unknown character that we'd never be able to guess.

[YAVANNA]

I repeat that he is the X3 FIGWIT!! He will become famous and have his own fans and webpages whoever he is...

[TNC9852002]

He's movieverse Sugarman..

-TNC

[Svenhorn83]

And why would they have Avalanche and Arclight?


In the trailer Arclight claps in her hands and makes thus a blast wave through the air. And perhaps Avalanche makes a blast wave upon the earth to creat a earthquake :D.

[TNC9852002]

Just forget about Avalanche guys...He was scrapped around the same time as Gambit..

-TNC

[YAVANNA]

I might be very lost but who is Figwit?

It was one of the elves at the council of elrond(LOTR), no one knew who he was but he got a big fandom around him, and finally managed to have a line in the return of the king? or the two towers? movie(he is the elf that speaks to arwen when she is leaving sees the vision of her son and goes back to rivendel). By the way FIGWIT means frodo is great who is that?

[Avalanche]

I can't help but think the darkness around his eyes is significant. The shading there is unatural. Looks like they popped it in to shade his eyes, which makes me think that if we could see his eyes it might give away his identity.

[lordofthenerds]

I can't help but think the darkness around his eyes is significant. The shading there is unatural. Looks like they popped it in to shade his eyes, which makes me think that if we could see his eyes it might give away his identity.
Just give up, he's not Gambit. :o

[MoiBijou]

I can't help but think the darkness around his eyes is significant. The shading there is unatural. Looks like they popped it in to shade his eyes, which makes me think that if we could see his eyes it might give away his identity.

*G...A...M...*

The voices!!! Again the voices inside my head!!!

http://www.theargonath.cc/characters/gollum/pictures/gollum23.jpg

:p Just joking.

[Super Flight]

why is it that the REAL person is never in the options.......

[lordofthenerds]

why is it that the REAL person is never in the options.......
Because the real one is always some unknown mutant that only God knows. :o

[Super Flight]

Its avalanche it says it in the book, he even looks like him

[Avalanche]

Just give up, he's not Gambit. :o
I should say at this point, that I'm not a Gambit fan. Not by a long, long shot. I've no interest in seeing him in the movie as a cameo or a fully-fledged role.

I am beginning to wonder if he's intended to be a secret however. This character is clearly someone FOX haven't wanted us to see until this point in time. I can't think of anyone else they'd want to keep so well hidden.

[Super Flight]

avalanche and archlight are Lovers!

[lordofthenerds]

I should say at this point, that I'm not a Gambit fan. Not by a long, long shot. I've no interest in seeing him in the movie as a cameo or a fully-fledged role.

I am beginning to wonder if he's intended to be a secret however. This character is clearly someone FOX haven't wanted us to see until this point in time. I can't think of anyone else they'd want to keep so well hidden.
He is.....HIDDEN MAN! :eek:

[Super Flight]

i remeber avalanche was a punk kid in x-men evolution, and he looks the part

[Super Flight]

Its Avalanche And You KNOW IT!!

i win, so end of thread!

hehe

[MemnochZERO]

avalanche and archlight are Lovers!

What are you talking about?
He and Pyro are married and every X-men reader knows it! ;)

[marvelgeek]

Its avalanche it says it in the book, he even looks like him Really?
That would be cool. Avalanche all the way.
They want different powers but how can anyone know Arclights are seismic in nature? Avalanche could get the ground all shaky and/or fluid-y instead which is visually different.

They do seem to have kept him quiet. Which might be mysterious...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a233/Marvelgeek/mutantx2jm.jpg
The eyes are weird. But I doubt it's gambit. They've said it alot.
Also would he throw cards? How would that look on the screen?

[marvelgeek]

What are you talking about?
He and Pyro are married and every X-men reader knows it! ;)
True. And Blob's jealous.

[Specter313]

Its avalanche it says it in the book, he even looks like him

Do we need to have yet another lecture on how the books are not the same as the movie?

[Gilpesh]

I like the Exodus suggestion. I mean just look at his wiki:

"Amplifying Genoshan mutants' hatred of humans"

Magneto would need someone like that if he was demanding everyone goes to war.

[lordofthenerds]

Do we need to have yet another lecture on how the books are not the same as the movie?
Yeha, he's not Avalanche. Its already been confirmed that Avalanche didn't make the movie.

[Vandal]

I like the Exodus suggestion. I mean just look at his wiki:

"Amplifying Genoshan mutants' hatred of humans"

Magneto would need someone like that if he was demanding everyone goes to war.

I agree, so far I think Exodus is one of the more feasible possibilities that I am leaning towards...was skimming through some old comics and cards of mine last night and ran across a card of his and thought he could definitely be a possibility for the anonymous brotherhood member. Especially since he can "drain psychic energy and lifeforce to augment himself in various ways..." (UXM), could this be a potential way to keep Phoenix's powers under the Brotherhood's control so she doesn't have some type of 'freak out' and burn them all to a crisp?

[jmao]

AND WHOS THE FIRST TO SAY ITS AVALANCHE!? MEEE!! i win! 10 points 2 eprops

[Specter313]

AND WHOS THE FIRST TO SAY ITS AVALANCHE!? MEEE!! i win! 10 points 2 eprops

You win what? Diddly squat is what. It's not Avalanche.

[Endeavor]

It's so not Avalanche

[lordofthenerds]

You win what? Diddly squat is what. It's not Avalanche.
Who's says diddly squat? :p

[Specter313]

Who's says diddly squat? :p

Me, obviously. :p

[Endeavor]

Who's says diddly squat? :p

Are remaking the Hilary Duff "Woah" commercial?

[lordofthenerds]

Me, obviously. :p
It still doesn't sound right for a guy to say...or anybody. :p

[lordofthenerds]

Are remaking the Hilary Duff "Woah" commercial?
Never heard of it. :o

[Speedball]

His hair is too long to be Gambit's, plus it should have a red tint to it.
It might be Avalanche, but i think the JR novel is wrong.
I think it might be Black Tom Cassidy, who in the Comics is one of Juggernauts' allies.
Or Cannonball, which would be really cool to see on screen.

[X-Maniac]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a233/Marvelgeek/mutantx2jm.jpg

The dark shadowed eyes and hair look to me more like Thunderbird, a native American with enhanced strength and speed (although in the Spider-Man cartoon, he could transform into north American animals)...

Here's Thunderbird:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4909/thunderb15xm.gif

I think almost certainly this character is intended to be native American.
I think he could also be Forge (but Forge's super-inventive mind is not a very directly offensive power). Maybe it is the native American Marauder called Scalphunter, Arclight's lover who can 'technomorph' devices and machines, transforming them into whatever he needs. Or Thunderbird's brother Warpath, who has similar powers.

[Endeavor]

His hair is too long to be Gambit's, plus it should have a red tint to it.
It might be Avalanche, but i think the JR novel is wrong.
I think it might be Black Tom Cassidy, who in the Comics is one of Juggernauts' allies.
Or Cannonball, which would be really cool to see on screen.

Gambit's hair is brown, not red

[X-Maniac]

I think it's nothing like Cannonball, it's definitely not Avalanche or Gambit. What about my suggestions above?

[MoiBijou]

Gambit's hair is brown, not red

It depends on the artist, usually is auburn. Ultimate version was redhair.

I think like X-Maniac that guy is Thunderbird/Warpath, he looks very Native American and perhaps that shadow under his eyes is just make-up.

[jmao]

lol my guess is they replaced avalanche in the book with arclight for the movie

[Specter313]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a233/Marvelgeek/mutantx2jm.jpg

The dark shadowed eyes and hair look to me more like Thunderbird, a native American with enhanced strength and speed (although in the Spider-Man cartoon, he could transform into north American animals)...

Here's Thunderbird:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4909/thunderb15xm.gif

I think almost certainly this character is intended to be native American.
I think he could also be Forge (but Forge's super-inventive mind is not a very directly offensive power). Maybe it is the native American Marauder called Scalphunter, Arclight's lover who can 'technomorph' devices and machines, transforming them into whatever he needs. Or Thunderbird's brother Warpath, who has similar powers.

That guy does not look Native American and he's too small for either of the Thunderbirds.

[Endeavor]

Warpath or the original Thunderbird would be nice, as would Scalphunter. :up:

[Endeavor]

It depends on the artist, usually is auburn. Ultimate version was redhair.

I think like X-Maniac that guy is Thunderbird/Warpath, he looks very Native American and perhaps that shadow under his eyes is just make-up.

That's because some artists have been influenced by the original Animated Series (TAS), which had awfull coloring. I mean if you go by that both Rogue and Cyclops also have red hair. Gambit has brown hair, period, and that's how he should always be portrayed. Check this link, it doesn't get more official than that:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gambit

[X-Maniac]

That guy does not look Native American and he's too small for either of the Thunderbirds.

But since we have the strength and muscle in Juggernaut, they might choose to focus on Thunderbird/Warpath's speed power instead. Or maybe even the cartoon-only transformation power.

You cannot deny how similar he looks to Thunderbird, the shadowed eyes taking the place of a mask, a similar hairstyle, the same bone structure...

[Speedball]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a233/Marvelgeek/mutantx2jm.jpg

The dark shadowed eyes and hair look to me more like Thunderbird, a native American with enhanced strength and speed (although in the Spider-Man cartoon, he could transform into north American animals)...

Here's Thunderbird:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4909/thunderb15xm.gif

I think almost certainly this character is intended to be native American.
I think he could also be Forge (but Forge's super-inventive mind is not a very directly offensive power). Maybe it is the native American Marauder called Scalphunter, Arclight's lover who can 'technomorph' devices and machines, transforming them into whatever he needs. Or Thunderbird's brother Warpath, who has similar powers.
WAY TOO small to be Warpath or thunderbird. I look more like them then he does. What about Black Tom though?

[MoiBijou]

That's because some artists have been influenced byt the TAS series, which had awefull coloring. I mean if you go by that both Rogue and Cyclops also have red hair. Gambit has brown hair, period, and that's how he should always be portrayed. Check this link, it doesn't get more official than that:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gambit

Yeah, I agree he's got brown hair, you don't need to give me links *points at signature ;)* but the character has suffered such a lot of changes that you find some drawings with brown hair, some ones with auburn hair, Ultimate with red hair... We can say he's brown and sometimes is drawn with auburn hair.

[Speedball]

Anyway, IT'S NOT GAMBIT.

[Endeavor]

Yo se ;) The link was more for everybody else's benefit.

[X-Maniac]

WAY TOO small to be Warpath or thunderbird. I look more like them then he does. What about Black Tom though?

OH COME ON! You dismiss suggestions based on the photo and Thunderbird image sharing the same hair, eyes, skin tone, bone structure and possible ethnic background. And then suggest Black Tom - someone completely unlike the person in the picture, someone Irish with a beard! Now you are just being silly and argumentative!

:down :down :down

[Endeavor]

It's pretty safe to say that the guys looks or level of muscle mass wont have anything to do with the character he plays. Who would have looked at McKellen prior to 2000 and said 'That's Magneto!'?

[Speedball]

Well, if you look in the DK X-men Ultimate Guide, He looks damn close. has teh Eye thing too.

[Specter313]

But since we have the strength and muscle in Juggernaut, they might choose to focus on Thunderbird/Warpath's speed power instead. Or maybe even the cartoon-only transformation power.

You cannot deny how similar he looks to Thunderbird, the shadowed eyes taking the place of a mask, a similar hairstyle, the same bone structure...

And Ken Leung looked alot like he could play someone like Sunfire, and look how that turned out.

There is a LOT of people who have hairstyles like that. And bone structure? No, I'm not seeing that. If they wanted speed, they'd make him someone like Northstar, who is physically a lot more like this guy.

[X-Maniac]

True, and who'd have pointed at Ken Leung and shrieked 'Quill'..

But, still, there is more than a hint of someone native American in that image. That's all we have to go on at this time!

[Speedball]

yeah, now that i googled him, he has a mustache, which looks like a shadow in the book. still, it could be him.

[X-Maniac]

I'll give you hair and possible ethnic background but that's about it. YOu can't see the eyes and I doubt they would say his eyes are dark to look like the mask because even whne he wore the mask he had white eyes like Storm. The skin tone I'm not giving to you either because he's been darker and he's been lighter throughout the ages. He might have some facial sturcture similarities bu he doesn't have the same bone structure as Thunderbird or Warpath because bone structure is all over the body and though we don't see a whole lot of him, Thunderbird and Warpath would have to be between the size of Colossus and Juggernaut.

But they might change his size if they don't focus on the superstrength aspect... And how people appear in the movie is not how they appear in the comics... look at the movie versions of Storm, Wolverine and Magneto - each is a totally different height and shape to the comicbook version.

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, X-Maniac...I'm with you on those points too..
It's pretty safe to say that the guys looks or level of muscle mass wont have anything to do with the character he plays. Who would have looked at McKellen prior to 2000 and said 'That's Magneto!'?
Muscle mass is important only if the character has powers or personalities that support their size...Like, with Sabretooth, Colossus, and Juggernaut..

Guys like Magneto don't need to be overly huge, but still should have some intimidating physical presence to match their personality..Hence, the body suit for McKellen..

Sometimes there's some leeway and some "smaller" characters still often seem to possess alot of physical strength...Arclight's superhuman strength and resistance in the comics has brought these particular points to my attention and I've asked the writers about it and they haven't given me a straight answer on this, so, it's hard to say..They could probably get away with it since Arclight's main power may primarily be her shockwaves and not her strength.

Since Thunderbird's primary power is his strength, I would expect someone of seemingly larger build and mass.


As of right now, for the identity of this character, I'm still swayed towards the French-Canadian Northstar and perhaps even the Egyptian Exodus..

-TNC

[Endeavor]

Exodus isn't Egyptian. He's French.. Paris Du Bennet

[Specter313]

But they might change his size if they don't focus on the superstrength aspect... And how people appear in the movie is not how they appear in the comics... look at the movie versions of Storm, Wolverine and Magneto - each is a totally different height and shape to the comicbook version.

Then there's absolutely no point in making him Thunderbird if they're only going to give him one of his powers. If they were going to use just super speed, then they'd go with someone who's powers are just that.

[Endeavor]

Speaking of Super Speed... did you guys see the little blurb in the official site that could indicate Callisto has that power?

[X-Maniac]

.. it seems odd though to make Northstar a baddie.. that's my only issue...

And Thunderbird was in the Brotherhood line-up for the 90s cartoon (see the comics-to-movies images thread for a pic of him alongside the other Brotherhood members).

I can't recall Thunderbird in the 90s X-Men cartoon, but I know that in the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends cartoon, Thunderbird was a shapeshifter who morphed into north American animals... If they focus on his speed, or on his cartoon-only metamorphic power, he wouldn't need muscle mass...

[X-Maniac]

Thunderbird in the Brotherhood in the 90s cartoon:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/161/bhood22ey.jpg

Is this more evidence that the trailer image is of Thunderbird?

[Specter313]

.. it seems odd though to make Northstar a baddie.. that's my only issue...

But that didn't stop them from making Quill, Psylocke, and Multiple Man evil in this.

And Thunderbird was in the Brotherhood line-up for the 90s cartoon (see the comics-to-movies images thread for a pic of him alongside the other Brotherhood members).

For the opening title sequence only. Hardly any basis for putting him with the Brotherhood in the movies.

I can't recall Thunderbird in the 90s X-Men cartoon, but I know that in the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends cartoon, Thunderbird was a shapeshifter who morphed into north American animals... If they focus on his speed, or on his cartoon-only metamorphic power, he wouldn't need muscle mass...

Again, if they wanted super speed, they'd go for someone who's only power was super speed, like Northstar or someone similar, and they already have a shape shifter in Mystique, and they've ruled out similar powers. He's not Thunderbird.

[Endeavor]

.. it seems odd though to make Northstar a baddie.. that's my only issue...


Well that shouldn't be an issue. They placed Multiple Man and Psylocke on Magneto's side.

[TNC9852002]

Exodus isn't Egyptian. He's French.. Paris Du Bennet
Well, I did notice that the name was French, but the name doesn't really tell me much...I mean, I'd expect plenty of French people to live around Egypt...

or I guess I've misread the background info on the character...with his involvement with Apocalypse and all..

Looking back on the details of this guy, I'm kinda backing off on the possibility of this being him...He just seems too powerful..

-TNC

[Specter313]

Well, I did notice that the name was French, but the name doesn't really tell me much...I mean, I'd expect plenty of French people to live around Egypt...

I guess I've misread the information on Exodus..

Looking back on the details of this guy, I'm kinda backing off on the possibility of this being him...He's just too powerful of a mutant..

-TNC

No, he's Egyptian.

[X-Maniac]

Wolverine's only main difference from his character is his height, everything else is basically the same as the character. Magneto is just a little older and less built because he depends on his power and he decided to heighten that instead of his body. I don't like Halle as Storm but the only thing they really took away was her character's Goddess presence which is not entirely Halle's fault.
Everyone in the movies have looked very similar to their comic counter parts, excluding Trask but it works for him.

So they might just as easily change Thunderbird then, if they changed Wolverine from a super-muscled midget to a much taller, leaner guy and made super-musculed Magneto into a much slighter person.

[Endeavor]

No, he's Egyptian.

I guess you're going by UXM again huh?

[Endeavor]

Looking back on the details of this guy, I'm kinda backing off on the possibility of this being him...He just seems too powerful..

-TNC
Yeah and his high level telekinesis would make him too much like Phoenix

[TNC9852002]

Speaking of Super Speed... did you guys see the little blurb in the official site that could indicate Callisto has that power?
I do remember seeing something, but I don't remember exactly anything on "speed"..

-TNC

[Specter313]

So they might just as easily change Thunderbird then, if they changed Wolverine from a super-muscled midget to a much taller, leaner guy and made super-musculed Magneto into a much slighter person.

Except Wolverine and Magneto never had super strength, which would technically require bigger muscles to make it look better. And before you bring up the "But what if they don't focus on that" argument again, look at my response to that, because I'll just say that once again.

[TNC9852002]

I guess you're going by UXM again huh?
So, I guess it wouldn't be wrong to call him French-Egyptian?

-TNC

[Vandal]

I hardly think anyone's placement in this movie can be justified by the fact that they were in the opening lineup of brotherhood members that started episodes of the animated series....

[Endeavor]

I'd like to know where they got the Egyptian bit from. The origin story with Black Knight shows he was a french christian soldier during the crusades.

edit- yeah, he's THAT old.

[Vandal]

So, I guess it wouldn't be wrong to call him French-Egyptian?

-TNC

PSH, that would imply someone is of mixed origin, and EVERYONE knows that just CAN'T happen...

FOOL!

[Endeavor]

I do remember seeing something, but I don't remember exactly anything on "speed"..

-TNC

Check out Dania Ramirez' new bio in the movie site ;)

[MoiBijou]

I'd like to know where they got the Egyptian bit from. The origin story with Black Knight shows he was a french christian soldier during the crusades.

edit- yeah, he's THAT old.

That's what I remember too: Bennet du Paris, a XIIth century French crusader.

[X-Maniac]

Except Wolverine and Magneto never had super strength, which would technically require bigger muscles to make it look better. And before you bring up the "But what if they don't focus on that" argument again, look at my response to that, because I'll just say that once again.

Well, they might not focus on it. They are quite clearly deciding on certain characters because of distinctive powers, and also amalgamating certain characters (as in Callisto's case). I'm not trying to argue that it IS Thunderbird, I'm trying to point out the possibility - given that character's appearances have been altered and given that Thunderbird has two other abilities not yet seen in other movie characters - enhanced speed and (in the Spidey cartoon) animal metamorphic powers. Neither of those powers has yet been seen. Mystique morphs into people, not animals. Native Americans have a strong mythology of animal transformation (the 'skin-walker' folk tales).

It might also be Northstar, or (bizarrely) Forge, or someone else altogether. Maybe Arclight's lover Scalphunter, also native American and with technomorphic powers.

[Endeavor]

That's what I remember too: Bennet du Paris, a XIIth century French crusader.

:up:

[gamemiester]

It does look like Gambit but it probably is just some random mutant.

[X-Maniac]

Mystique can morph into anything. She has yet to morph into an animal in the movies. She also has morphed into the Statue of Liberty display in X-1, that's different from people.

Not true actually. Cartoon Mystique has morphed into animals. But comicbook (and movie) Mystique is restricted to mimicking human/humanoid appearances.

The Statue of Liberty is a 'human' shape, and Bryan Singer said they took a massive risk in doing that with the character because it was not strictly a person... but it is person-shaped..

[Endeavor]

Not true actually. Cartoon Mystique has morphed into animals. But comicbook (and movie) Mystique is restricted to mimicking human/humanoid appearances.

The Statue of Liberty is a 'human' shape, and Bryan Singer said they took a massive risk in doing that with the character because it was not strictly a person... but it is person-shaped..

Actually no. Comic book Mystique has morphed into very monstrous non-humanoid forms.

[MoiBijou]

Not true actually. Cartoon Mystique has morphed into animals. But comicbook (and movie) Mystique is restricted to mimicking human/humanoid appearances.

The Statue of Liberty is a 'human' shape, and Bryan Singer said they took a massive risk in doing that with the character because it was not strictly a person... but it is person-shaped..

I think as long as the form is not smaller than her (that could make her inner organs to explode), she can morph into anything.

[TNC9852002]

Dania Ramirez joins the cast as a proud, pugnacious mutant who combines super speed with the ability to locate and assess the powers of other mutants.
Callisto having super-speed?...Hmmm...It could work..

-TNC

[X-Maniac]

Actually no. Comic book Mystique has morphed into very monstrous non-humanoid forms.

I've never seen that, but will take your word for it.

Despite that, the movie version seems restricted to human shapes... otherwise Bryan wouldn't say it was daring to have her disguise herself as a statue... Which comes back to my point that ANIMAL metamorphosis has not yet been seen in the movies...

[Endeavor]

Callisto having super-speed?...Hmmm...It could work..

-TNC
You saw it then?

[Endeavor]

I've never seen that, but will take your word for it.

Despite that, the movie version seems restricted to human shapes... otherwise Bryan wouldn't say it was daring to have her disguise herself as a statue... Which comes back to my point that ANIMAL metamorphosis has not yet been seen in the movies...

Check out the X-Factor issues in which she was an unwilling member.

[X-Maniac]

That's just speculation about movie Mystique but it doesn't matter really because she's gonna get cured and Magneto wouldn't really need anyone to shapeshift into an animal because he has Lizard Man.

Who says he has Lizard Man? That might be just some random mutant lining up for the cure, or protesting against the cure.... There is no evidence that it's someone within the Brotherhood. We just don't know that yet.

[Avalanche]

They seem like they're throwing anything at Callisto.

As for Mystique. The updated bio specifically mentions she can morph into anyone or anything she touches. It implies things that aren't human.

[Specter313]

I've never seen that, but will take your word for it.

Despite that, the movie version seems restricted to human shapes... otherwise Bryan wouldn't say it was daring to have her disguise herself as a statue... Which comes back to my point that ANIMAL metamorphosis has not yet been seen in the movies...

But it's not his power in the comics, and basing of showing it off once in a very old, very bad cartoon is absolutely no reason to put that in the movie, and they'd find someone else who had that power, since he never had it in the comics, which they did all their research from, not the cartoons.

[X-Maniac]

Callisto having super-speed?...Hmmm...It could work..

-TNC

So if Callisto has super-speed, that surely rules out Northstar or a super-fast Thunderbird...

[TNC9852002]

So if Callisto has super-speed, that surely rules out Northstar or a super-fast Thunderbird...
I wouldn't go as far as ruling them out, only because their main powers are still a little different, but, I dunno...we really don't have anything much to go on.. :(

-TNC

[X-Maniac]

Because Magneto really has no use for animals, he has a brotherhood of Mutants with powers and among those have been Sabretooth, Toad, and now recently Lizard Man. He'd rather have mutants with animal-like abilities than have animals.

Can I quote you as his official spokesman??

I mean.. really... honestly.. talk about making it up as you go along...

Who's to say that Magneto wouldn't find useful someone who can transform into a wolf, or a bird, or a big cat or a bear... they'd be very useful to have in a battle...

[Avalanche]

I maintain the key to this character's identity is his eyes.

[TNC9852002]

Strength in numbers?... :p

-TNC

[Gilpesh]

Well, I did notice that the name was French, but the name doesn't really tell me much...I mean, I'd expect plenty of French people to live around Egypt...

or I guess I've misread the background info on the character...with his involvement with Apocalypse and all..

Looking back on the details of this guy, I'm kinda backing off on the possibility of this being him...He just seems too powerful..

-TNC

Well they could focus his powers more to the telepathic influence and lower some of the other powers he has got. Because Magneto sounds like a great influencer but he might need a little help in convincing thousands of mutants to take on the entire population of Homo Sapiens.

[X-Maniac]

Care to elaborate how a wolf, bird, big cat or bear would fare against Storm, Wolverine, Beast, Iceman, Colossus, Shadowcat, soldiers with guns, etc.?

You obviously have never seen the stories where the shapeshifter Snowbird chased Storm across the sky as a giant arctic owl, or transformed into a giant wolverine to defeat the Wendigo creature that even Wolverine could not beat... She even transformed into mosquitoes to get through a ventilation system into a building...

I would think such powers would be very useful! Soaring in the air to get an idea of the enemy's size and weapons, and a large wild animal would give Beast and Wolverine a serious distraction...

[X-Maniac]

I maintain the key to this character's identity is his eyes.

Could it be Mesmero? Or even Sauron? Both have hypnotic powers...

[TNC9852002]

Well they could focus his powers more to the telepathic influence and lower some of the other powers he has got. Because Magneto sounds like a great influencer but he might need a little help in convincing thousands of mutants to take on the entire population of Homo Sapiens.
Hmmm..A power like that might be tricky to display on-screen...

It could still work though, but I dunno if Magneto would go through all of that to get people to join his cause..

-TNC

[Endeavor]

I would love to see Sauron on screen, though I feel it's unlikely. :(

[X-Maniac]

You think they're gonna put these things in the movie for a character who originally didn't have it in the comics or the cartoon where he was with the Brotherhood line up? especially with all those following behind Magneto, you think they're gonna focus on an animal shapeshifter when they just cured Mystique?

I doubt it. But that wasn't what i was answering. You asked how useful an animal shapeshifter would be. So i told you. I'm not answering whether we will get one, or should get one, I'm telling you how useful one would be if there was one.

[Gilpesh]

Hmmm..A power like that might be tricky to display on-screen...

It could still work though, but I dunno if Magneto would go through all of that to get people to join his cause..

-TNC

Maybe a sound effect or an echo when Mags gives his 'we are the cure' speech or an earlier display of him making someone act out of character. Also they could do something with eyes of people being affected. You never know.

Well Mags tried to turn world leaders into mutants for his cause, he might use a little telepathic control to get help.

[X-Maniac]

Hmmm... so this could be the 'Mastermind' person for X3 then... in which case I'm thinking Mesmero perhaps...

[Endeavor]

only if they turn his skin green... i can't stand the 'only blue is acceptable as alternate mutant skin tone' mentality.

[X-Maniac]

From wikipedia : Mesmero gained the ability to control entire crowds with a mere glance, instead of a mere handful of people.

They might not go down the route of green skin... The Evo version was very different to the comicbook version... i don't think it's a case of 'only blue' but that once you have one or two people with variant skin hue, it's enough!

[Specter313]

Well they could focus his powers more to the telepathic influence and lower some of the other powers he has got. Because Magneto sounds like a great influencer but he might need a little help in convincing thousands of mutants to take on the entire population of Homo Sapiens.

I really doubt that would happen. Magneto always wanted his followers to come along with him voluntarily. That's why when he makes the speech about other mutants being against them, then they'd be their enemies too. The old, if you're not with us, then you're against us mentality. He's basically saying that if you don't want to follow along with him, then screw you, get out of my way or get mowed down with the rest. He wouldn't force other mutants to join him when there are plenty out there that would go with him voluntarily.

[Endeavor]

Well the only mutants with abnormal skin tone that they have been faithfull to in the movies so far are the blue ones. The one which they expect us to belief was comic's Artie in X2 did not have the abnormally pink skin and now Leech isn't green. I don't see why we can have 3 blue mutants (which have nothing to do with each other as far as the movies are concerned) but it's not believable to have a green one...

[X-Maniac]

Well the only mutants with abnormal skin tone that they have been faithfull to in the movies so far are the blue ones. The one which they expect us to belief was comic's Artie in X2 did not have the abnormally pink skin and now Leech isn't green. I don't see why we can have 3 blue mutants (which have nothing to do with each other as far as the movies are concerned) but it's not believable to have a green one...

Yes, I dunno... and Simon stated it was a creative decision, not a practical one to save time and expense...

[Gilpesh]

I really doubt that would happen. Magneto always wanted his followers to come along with him voluntarily. That's why when he makes the speech about other mutants being against them, then they'd be their enemies too. The old, if you're not with us, then you're against us mentality. He's basically saying that if you don't want to follow along with him, then screw you, get out of my way or get mowed down with the rest. He wouldn't force other mutants to join him when there are plenty out there that would go with him voluntarily.

Well I was thinking along the lines that those mutants were on Mags' side. All they needed those was a little more push in the right direction. Basically less side changing and more side energizing.

[TNC9852002]

The increasing Gambit votes is worrying me...

-TNC

[tkenji69]

The increasing Gambit votes is worrying me...

-TNC

Probably just wishful thinking.

[britrogue]

I just don't see where they could fit him in. He should have been there from the beginning, but with Iceman/Rogue relationship, there's no room for him.

[eXperiment]

I'm not to sure if its Gambit. I'll have to wait until May 26th. :up:

[Asteroid-Man]

its Avalanche, read the book

[Sunstar]

This guy looks very reluctant IMO, almost like he doesn't want to be there! That's probably why he's hiding behind Magneto! I wonder if he's one of the mutants that switch sides at the end!

[Kanon]

Ok, I haven't read the whole thread, but I'm still the squared moron on earth if I say he could be Gambit or we are open to the possibility?

Let's try to gather what we know:
-He is important (a named cameo, at least), since he is up there with the main brotherhood member.
-They seem to edit the previous trailers, spots, etc with the intention to keep him hidden

Am I missing something?

Forlán you mean. :up:, Yep, also Batistuta, Ortega, Messi... it's like a fashion among them.
sorin, now that dude needs a haircut!
LOL :up:

[Specter313]

its Avalanche, read the book

Would you shut up about the damn book. He's not Avalanche, because he's not in the movie.

[Sunstar]

its Avalanche, read the book

I don't think it's Avalanche b/c Arclight is in the film instead! But he does look alot like Avalanche from X-men Evolution though!

[JDD]

I think that avalanche won't be the movie. They all ready have arclight and she can create shockwaves with her power and is almost the same as avalanche power.

[TNC9852002]

The writers have explicitly made it known that Gambit is not in the movie...Ralph Winter has said this too...They've also mentioned a few times that Avalanche did not make it into the final film.

-TNC

[berzerko89]

That guy looked like gambit... just a thought.

[TNC9852002]

The only significantly "Gambit" thing about him, IMO, is the coat he's wearing..

-TNC

[X-Maniac]

Okay...

It isn't Avalanche
(he was cut from the film early on and Arclight has similar shockwave powers)

It isn't Gambit
(he was cut from the film early on and the writers said he deserves much more than a cameo)

It's unlikely to be Northstar
(Callisto has super-speed as one of her powers, they are unlikely to duplicate)

It's unlikely to be Thunderbird or Warpath
(the powers of strength and speed are already represented in Juggernaut and in Callisto)

[MemnochZERO]

To be fair, Callisto's not on par with Northstar in terms of speed. Not even close.
As for the Avlanche talk... remember when Rickygate was going down, FOX issues a statement to SHH about Ricky NOT playing Avalanche as AVALANCHE was NOT in the film?
much like Cannonball and Gambit, Avalanche was cut early on.

[X-Maniac]

To be fair, Callisto's not on par with Northstar in terms of speed. Not even close.

But how do you know exactly? Super-speed is listed as one of Callisto's powers on the X3 website, and it's an entirely new power for her.

And, regardless of how many miles she does to the gallon, it's still duplication to have two speedsters right in the main line-up of the Brotherhood. I'd have liked to see Callisto WITHOUT super-speed, but we can't have everything!

[Endeavor]

To be fair, Callisto's not on par with Northstar in terms of speed. Not even close.
We don't know what her speed in the movie will be. There's a small blurb in the official site which indicates speed might be part of her powers.

[X-Maniac]

Avalanche was cut early on.

Why are you arguing with me when i said exactly the same thing in my post. Read my post again please!!! The part underneath the big type about Avalance. Thanks.

[MemnochZERO]

I did, i see no problem reiterating it, as others have done since this thread started. And just because i disagree with the Northstar/Callisto comparison doesn't man I'm arguing, either, i'm just stating comic fact. how it will play out on film is anyone's guess.
Also i just checked out the X3 site, Callisto's profile for her film powers, this is what it says:

"Superhuman senses, can detect electrical energy spike from miles away, can detect the presence of other mutants based on their energy projection.
Superb hunter and tracker."

Am i just blind, is there ANOTHER blurb on the site about her powers I'm not seeing?
Now i know in the comics Callisto has heightened agility, strength speed and senses.. but this has always been closer to Wolverine and Sabretooth level, not Northstar. It's a completely different kind of power display and level.

[TNC9852002]

I thought Northstar's primary power was his flight, not his super speed... :confused:

-TNC

[MemnochZERO]

No, it's both. To be more accurate it's flying at a super speed. At least in the newer books.

[Specter313]

I thought Northstar's primary power was his flight, not his super speed... :confused:

-TNC

utilize the random atomic motion found within his molecules to propel his body at superhuman speeds, possesses increased durability in his physical make-up to resist damage and temperature extremes, alter the phase-shift between his molecules and his sister’s upon physical contact, generating a radiant cascade of blinding light in all directions, formerly canceled out both his sister's and his own powers on contact, formerly could generate light on his own as concussive bursts or blinding flashes of half the intensity the twins could generate together

But he recently regained the ability to generate the light bursts on his own.

[TNC9852002]

Hmmm...Well, back to Callisto, it's not a completely different power as in a change, but more of an amplification in my eyes...Callisto already had heightened strength, superhuman reflexes and agility, which are some of the basics of what a mutant with super speed would have...So, it's not like they made Callisto a mix of mutants that can shoot darts out of their noses and eyes or somethin'... :p They still became abilities that had some roots to her comic powers...

-TNC

[JokerNick]

Hmmm...Well, back to Callisto, it's not a completely different power as in a change, but more of an amplification in my eyes...Callisto already had heightened strength, superhuman reflexes and agility, which are some of the basics of what a mutant with super speed would have...So, it's not like they made Callisto a mix of mutants that can shoot darts out of their nose or somethin'...

They still became abilities that had some roots to her comic powers..

-TNC

what's with the tentcles that she has in the comics??

[MemnochZERO]

From what i'm gathering ont he X3 site, they're given Callisto Caliban's powers as well. Heightened speed doesn't necisarily translate into 'super' or superhuman speed, it just means quicker than the average person.. whereas characters like Northstar or Quicksilver are actually traveling at a much faster rate.

[MemnochZERO]

what's with the tentcles that she has in the comics??

Oh, Masque did that to her. It's not part of her original mutation, and she no longer has them in the comics.

[lordofthenerds]

Hey guys remember Raz Degan the guy who an IMDB poster said was playing a Omega mutant who "energizes" things and that liz person from CanMag said is playing Gambit. He looks like this guy if you take off the beard and make his hair longer.
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/6635/mutantx2jm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://www.torinofilmfestival.com/images/degan.jpghttp://www.atletico1999.it/separati/raz%20degan.jpg

[MemnochZERO]

Could be.
The people who saw him (Raz) said there was something on his hands, right? Like green gloves for CGI perposes? Could he be Wither? I know his age would be waaaay off, but the dude in the photo, when you watch the clips does look like him.

[TNC9852002]

Doesn't look like him at all to me, lordnerds..

-TNC

[Aiden]

Liz talks rubbish

Erinjoy is the one to listen to

[lordofthenerds]

Liz talks rubbish

Erinjoy is the one to listen to
I know, but maybe that IMDB poster was telling the truth. I think thats why Liz said Dengan is playing gambit.

[MemnochZERO]

Yeah, the IMDB poster never said which mutant Raz was supposely playing, Liz just jumped on the Gambit train. I know there's a TV spot where we can see this guy on a different angle, I'm just having touble finding it again.. which sucks... as I remember seeing it Friday.

[Specter313]

Hey guys remember Raz Degan the guy who an IMDB poster said was playing a Omega mutant who "energizes" things and that liz person from CanMag said is playing Gambit. He looks like this guy if you take off the beard and make his hair longer.
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/6635/mutantx2jm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://www.torinofilmfestival.com/images/degan.jpghttp://www.atletico1999.it/separati/raz%20degan.jpg

After researching that poster more, he was just a liar and a troll.

[YAVANNA]

Yeah, the IMDB poster never said which mutant Raz was supposely playing, Liz just jumped on the Gambit train. I know there's a TV spot where we can see this guy on a different angle, I'm just having touble finding it again.. which sucks... as I remember seeing it Friday.


i posted a cap of that some pages back

[MemnochZERO]

Yeah i finally found the trailer again and watched it, it wasn't as telling as i remember. it just sucks the Mutant Rally clip that was played with the Ian McKellen interview wasn't high res... because there's a full body shot of the guy for a split second.

[Mar420x]

its the male version of stacy X lol.

[MemnochZERO]

Stanly X?
lol

[MemnochZERO]

i would've jumped on that suggestion, I mean he does look like Vulcan.... but Deadly Genesis was out way after the film started shooting. Then again, you'd have people going 'but Gambit's the third Summers brother, he must be GAMBIT!' if they ever said 'third summers brother'. lol

[MemnochZERO]

I enjoy him, actually.

[jdreturns]

IT'S GAMBIT!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://cinescape.net/0/Comics_2.asp

[aaron]

this character should be in claremonts novel right?

[MemnochZERO]

Well, in Claremont's novel, they have that space taken by Avalanche, who we know isn't in the film.

[migs]

IT'S GAMBIT!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://cinescape.net/0/Comics_2.asp
what's with that broken link

[aaron]

Well, in Claremont's novel, they have that space taken by Avalanche, who we know isn't in the film.
no, avalanche is in the junior novel

[MemnochZERO]

Oh really?
I thought there was just the one adaptation. My bad.

[TNC9852002]

If Avalanche is in the junior novel, then maybe there are a few other possible inconsistencies in the novel that people should be aware of..

-TNC

[Uncanny]

The guy looks like Gambit!

[Avalanche]

I think we need to consider the fact that just because we have been told certain characters will not be in the movie doesn't mean they won't be in the movie. It just means it's a tight secret being kept under wraps, to be kept as a surprise until we see the film for ourselves.

[Kanon]

I think we need to consider the fact that just because we have been told certain characters will not be in the movie doesn't mean they won't be in the movie. It just means it's a tight secret being kept under wraps, to be kept as a surprise until we see the film for ourselves.
That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that he is gambit. I'm saying that it's not impossible that we have been fooled. (it has happened before :p )

[MemnochZERO]

But there's a difference between being fooled and being lied to on several occasions by the creative forces behind the film, don't forget.

[formerlynorcal]

from what i've found so far it looks like it could maybe

Jesse Aaronson
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=216

and his power seem like it would be pretty good to get into Alcatraz

"psionically emits an electromagnetic wave-pulse that can scan and percieve existing energy fields, disable mechanical and electronic systems, or scramble the human brain's nueral chemistry"

thats my 2 cents.

[TNC9852002]

I've never heard of anyone like a writer or a producer saying that something isn't in a movie just to keep something a secret..

-TNC

[X-Maniac]

from what i've found so far it looks like it could maybe

Jesse Aaronson
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=216

and his power seem like it would be pretty good to get into Alcatraz

"psionically emits an electromagnetic wave-pulse that can scan and percieve existing energy fields, disable mechanical and electronic systems, or scramble the human brain's nueral chemistry"

thats my 2 cents.

I'm not convinced. Magneto emits the strongest ever electromagnetic wave pulses! And he can do so much more with electromagnetism. Why have someone with similar, but inferior, powers to the Brotherhood's leader? Also, Arclight emits some kind of wave-pulse. The mutant you named has the codename Bedlam, by the way.

Also, as they have combined and adjusted various mutant powers (in Callisto especially, as she also appears to have the powers of Caliban and Quicksilver), we don't know quite what this mutant could be capable of...I'm so excited to find out!!! I wanna know, I wanna see the movie now!

[formerlynorcal]

I'm not convinced. Magneto emits the strongest ever electromagnetic wave pulses! And he can do so much more with electromagnetism. Why have someone with similar, but inferior, powers to the Brotherhood's leader? Also, Arclight emits some kind of wave-pulse. The mutant you named has the codename Bedlam, by the way.

Also, as they have combined and adjusted various mutant powers (in Callisto especially, as she also appears to have the powers of Caliban and Quicksilver), we don't know quite what this mutant could be capable of...I'm so excited to find out!!! I wanna know, I wanna see the movie now!

All really good points, guess i really didnt think it through enough. just only one i could find that seem to look anything like him. oh well i tried

[X-Maniac]

All really good points, guess i really didnt think it through enough. just only one i could find that seem to look anything like him. oh well i tried

No problem, you looked, you investigated, you tried! The problem is we don't know if his look is an exact copy of his comicbook look or whether he is 'reimagined' somehow. No one would have guessed Callisto, Arclight or Quill from their pictures...

[Neptune]

That is definitely not Gambit. Could be Forge but i'm guessing it's a random mutant.

[L0ngsh0t]

i wouldn't hold it past the producers to put gambit in the movie, they have been saying forever that he isn't in it, but maybe they just want they're biggest secret not to get leaked, because they're not dumb, let us have a lot before the movie, but not everything, and leave a lot of secrets to generate word of mouth buzz as the movie gets out

just think, how many more people are going to see this movie in the second weekend if they hear, or saw in their first veiwing, gambit, for even, 10 minutes or something, say a clevar line, and throw a card

[migs]

i wouldn't hold it past the producers to put gambit in the movie, they have been saying forever that he isn't in it, but maybe they just want they're biggest secret not to get leaked, because they're not dumb, let us have a lot before the movie, but not everything, and leave a lot of secrets to generate word of mouth buzz as the movie gets out

just think, how many more people are going to see this movie in the second weekend if they hear, or saw in their first veiwing, gambit, for even, 10 minutes or something, say a clevar line, and throw a card

They could be lying about gambit. I'm actually really anxious to find out who this guy is. He must be a big character, due to their secrecy about this guy. I'm gonna say it's probably forge, but I would like him to be gambit (and actually fight someone...)

[Karea07]

dont get your hopes up.

[X-Maniac]

Forge or maybe even Shadow King?

He does have a nuance of Gambit in the trenchcoat and looks... I find it hard to believe they'd lie about Gambit being in though....

[berzerko89]

he really does remind me of gambit but then again they've confirmed that gambit's not in the film... maybe he's just probably a nobody? lol. i doubt that since knowing magneto will bring with him the best (e.g. callisto, phoenix, mm, arlight, quill, pyro). ;) lets just name this guy "Unknown" until we confirmed his true identity from the movie. :D

[MemnochZERO]

He reminds me a bit of Wither once you see the full shot of him.

[Retroman]

Caps from the preview.Who are the folks in the background?

Phat and little phat....
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4541/pdvd1059ym.png
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8492/pdvd1064hh.png

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7192/pdvd1076ij.png
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8566/pdvd1086xx.png

Magneto on Kick....
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1513/pdvd1139cb.png

Outnumberd?
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/516/pdvd1120zk.png

[Retroman]

Shock and aw at the display from the brotherhood's most powerfull 'weapon', Phoenix (with black eyes - wtf?)....
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3961/pdvd1103os.png
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1724/pdvd1117nh.png


ellio124 from the imdb forums suggested that this may be Anole...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anole_%28Superhero%29

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6382/pdvd1144lz.png


http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8111/pdvd1029mt.png

[Aiden]

So Lizard Man=Anole

[marvelgeek]

In the first pics, I just get this anelee feel about the lady second to the left. Second to right kinda has Karmas hair but is too old and not asian.
Hooded lady on front row must be someone but who...?
Also the woman wearing that very green turtleneck is everywhere (and noone would wear that green in this crowd in the movie if it didn't mean something). And her jacket seems pretty specific and rich on details... Can anyone make it out? At first I thought it seemed sorta native american like but she looks nothing like Dani moonstar. Maybe Rahne (short red hair)=Wolfsbane?

I was gonna post some screencaps but maybe that and this discussion belongs more in the Mutants Cameos for X3-thread http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209912?
This thread is more about a specific member right?
I think it's better to post it there.


EDIT: I posted it here. Might wanna check it out.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8794867#post8794867

[MemnochZERO]

One of the bald dudes ,might be Sunder, the other guy further back could be Tusk, that chick with the hood, i originally thought Destiny, or Masque with a makeover. Julian Richlings, i was holding out hope for Erg, Mr M, or Mastermind.. maybe he's Healer aka the only Morlock who talks sense.To the left (our right) of the woman witht he green turtleneck, that could be Dead Girl.... i mean, they do have Phat. Or Evangeline Whedon.

[DonnyLebeau]

Very good :up::up::up::up:


That's all you have to do Brett.

No lines needed. Just put that on screen for 10 seconds and you'll make everyone happy.:O

There's no way Brett would let a 10 second Gambit cameo outshine his butt buddy Ken Leung...

Unless Ken stabbed him with his quills and says "Wipe yo self awf, yo bleeding..."

If it wasn't someone special, why wouldn't they just tell us who it is, hmmmm???

[Avalanche]

I'm beginning to wonder if that Brotherhood picture showing a new character is even real. So far no mention of any extra Brotherhood member, in the film or the books.

[WorthyStevens]

I'm beginning to wonder if that Brotherhood picture showing a new character is even real. So far no mention of any extra Brotherhood member, in the film or the books.

That Brotherhood member doesn't exist. He's just an illusion created by Psylocke and implanted into the mind of Jean.


:p

[DonnyLebeau]

He's a new hybrid mutant called SABRETOAD!!!


Sabretooth's height, hair and jacket with Toad's face and eyes :eek:

[lordofthenerds]

So Lizard Man=Anole
Thast what I'm thinking. :up:

[MemnochZERO]

lol
Sabretoad.
His mutant power is having a personality.

[MemnochZERO]

I'm beginning to wonder if that Brotherhood picture showing a new character is even real. So far no mention of any extra Brotherhood member, in the film or the books.

Yeah, interesting theory but this is a cap of the mutant rally scene that played with an Ian McKellen interview last week:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6200/x3brotherhoodbad31nz9cb.jpg

As you can see he's standing in the far back, black tenchcoat and all, where he's usually been obstructed by Magneto until now. He exists.

[Retroman]

Strange. He's not in this shot (my new wallpaper BTW).....


http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5363/xmenthelaststand20060511035727.jpg


Source: http://media.filmforce.ign.com/media/040/040731/img_3599980.html

[EmmaFrostRules]

I don't think he was in that shot. Lol. It would never be Gambit.....OMG I JUST THORT OF SOMETHING, NO ROGUE........ARGHHHHH NO GAMBIT AND ROGUE SCENE (cries)

[LEX]

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1513/pdvd1139cb.png
Love that expression on Mags' face. :up: He's a madman!

[MemnochZERO]

I'm so glad they threw that bridge scene in the film.

[TNC9852002]

Ummm,...in a non-spoilery response, did anyone that has seen the film, mention anything about this mystery character?

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[migs]

wait. the movie has been seen by several people in this forum and noone knows who he is yet. Maybe the character was supposed to be a surprise cameo and was cut for the early screenings. That would be taking it a little far though....

[Antrax255]

wait. the movie has been seen by several people in this forum and noone knows who he is yet. Maybe the character was supposed to be a surprise cameo and was cut for the early screenings. That would be taking it a little far though.... Or would it?

[TNC9852002]

Or maybe there are alot more liars around here than we think... ;)

-TNC

[lordofthenerds]

Or maybe there are alot more liars around here than we think... ;)

-TNC
I doubt that. We didn't trust the guy who had teh Junior novel either, and look how that turned out.

[X-Maniac]

I'm beginning to wonder if that guy in the photo was Gambit in some very early footage... Especially since he is apparently nowhere to be seen in the movie seen at the screenings....

[TNC9852002]

I doubt that. We didn't trust the guy who had teh Junior novel either, and look how that turned out.
I have been staying away from the hardcore spoilers, so I don't know what happened and I would like for it to stay that way.. ;)

-TNC

[lordofthenerds]

I'm beginning to wonder if that guy in the photo was Gambit in some very early footage... Especially since he is apparently nowhere to be seen in the movie seen at the screenings....
I thought PWR said he saw him but he was never named or shown again. :confused:

[TNC9852002]

Who's this guy?

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5145/pdvd1086xx4vq.png

He seemed a little weird..On closer inspection, I remember him looking like a completely CG character...I doubt they'd waste CG on an unknown character, so does anyone know who this guy could be? It looked like his face was very reflective, almost glass-like..

-TNC

[Antrax255]

Strong Guy?

[TNC9852002]

Strong Guy?
If you think he looks like Strong Guy, then maybe the woman in the green turtleneck is Spiral.. :p ;) :D

-TNC

[Specter313]

Who's this guy?

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5145/pdvd1086xx4vq.png

He seemed a little weird..On closer inspection, I remember him looking like a completely CG character...I doubt they'd waste CG on an unknown character, so does anyone know who this guy could be? It looked like his face was very reflective, almost glass-like..

-TNC

Kiwi Black?
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1794

You said he looked like glass, maybe Prism?
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=817

[TNC9852002]

Prism seems likely, but I dunno..

-TNC

[migs]

all of the random cameos of mutants will have us all guessing for a while. I'd bet all of the ones that show no powers or aren't distinctive in looks are probably random.
but, the guy in the brotherhood lineup seems to be of some moderate importance. why else would he be there. all of the other mutants there play at least a small role.
I'd guess that maybe he was supposed to be gambit, then got cut, but I thought gambit got cut before filming started. And why would there be a ne, relatively hi res photo be released with him in it this late in the game. that doesn't make sense when all of the earlier footage had him hidden. Either the folks who have seen this movie missed who he is, or the footage of him doing what he does was cut out of the copies of the movie they saw to save a surprise for the fans. Or maybe his stuff wasn't quite finished?

[TNC9852002]

I dunno...I think one of the writers considered him to be a spoiler when someone asked about him...I doubt they would've cut him out entirely and if they would, they would've mentioned something about it, even if it meant not revealing who the character was supposed to be..

Him and the other guy that was talking at the beginning of the church scene...Both spoiler characters for some reason..

-TNC

[TNC9852002]

Interesting enough,..no..

But, from what I've gathered, unintentionally, it seems that he's there for no reason...But I can't confirm that.. :(

-TNC

[The Apocalypse]

haha I can picture in the Final Battle we see a charged card fly at someone out of no where but we never see who does it :D

[Nibune]

Im skeptical about northstar now, only since callisto seems to be the speed person in the film

[Antrax255]

only 11 more days until we know.

[The Apocalypse]

Well I think if he was any important we would know who he is by now..

[Antrax255]

Secret character

[The Apocalypse]

I know..but people saw the movie already and I haven't heard about him

[Antrax255]

a secret only for theathers

[The Apocalypse]

Possibly..I guess we'll find out in 12 days

[TNC9852002]

After finding out all of this crap that has been supposedly cut out of these early international screenings, I'm willing to leave possibilities open for anything.. :(

-TNC

[Endeavor]

Who's this guy?

-TNC
Could be Sunder

[Endeavor]

who is Sunder?
One of the founding members of the Morlocks

http://www.mutanthigh.com/sunder.html

[TNC9852002]

He looked nothing like Sunder, IMO...He had a weird CG look to him..

-TNC

[Exploding Boy]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a233/Marvelgeek/vlcsnap-21628.png
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/jorgemeatloaf/negasonic.jpg
Negasonic Teenage Warhead?

*damn photobucket resized it....just look at the circled woman in the smaller pics and you can see her bigger in the big one.

[Majmun]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a233/Marvelgeek/vlcsnap-21628.png
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/jorgemeatloaf/negasonic.jpg
Negasonic Teenage Warhead?

*damn photobucket resized it....
I thought that was phat.

[TNC9852002]

No, he's talking about the woman circled in the corner:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/negasoncxm.htm

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[Exploding Boy]

Look at the woman with the red circle.

[Exploding Boy]

Do they say that its Phat in a part of the movie(I havent seen a clip yet) Because Phat's powers arent being fat.

[Gilpesh]

Seriously does anyone know who that guy behind Magneto is yet???

[Exploding Boy]

Yeahh but his power is to control the fat in his body. It's him.
They say "This is Phat" in the movie? And if he can control the fat in his body, than why doesent he make himself skinny?

[TNC9852002]

Didn't you see him smile in that scene? He was having fun... :p

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