Do you like the idea of two Flash's?

[Lone Wolf]

There was an interview with Goyer confirming he'd have both Barry Allen and Wally West appearing in the film, do any of you like that idea or would rather have it focus on one?

Personally, I think it's great. They could start off the film with having Barry as the first Flash, and showing his days while wearing the mask. After he ends up retiring he decides someone should carry on the mantle, that being Wally West who the film would focus on for the entire time with Barry serving as his mentor. Still, the idea of having just one would play out nicely if done right.

What do you all think?

[Elongated Man]

Yeah, I remember that interview clearly. And I have to say, I liked the idea of first having Barry, well considering he was my favorite Flash before Wally came along. I could see an old enemy of his threating him, then Wally comes in and just totally beats his ass down!! :)

Having a solo film would also work, of course.

[Spider - Man]

Would be cool to have John Wesley Shipp play Barry in more of a cameo type appearance because I would want the MAJORITY of the focus to be on only one of them.

[The Guard]

Time travel. Legacies. Makes sense.

[Lone Wolf]

Yeah, I remember that interview clearly. And I have to say, I liked the idea of first having Barry, well considering he was my favorite Flash before Wally came along. I could see an old enemy of his threating him, then Wally comes in and just totally beats his ass down!! :)

Having a solo film would also work, of course.

I'd rather have the concept of Barry discovering Wally has the same abilities like himself, then decides to take him under his wing while handing him the mantle. After, have the movie switches it's focus on Wally, who at the same time is trying to figure out in his own way to control his powers.

Time travel. Legacies. Makes sense.

Exactly my point.

[Kurosawa]

I'd rather it be Jay and Barry myself but either or I guess.

[The Question]

Way I see it, the film should center around Wally, with Flashbacks to Barry.

[Katsuro]

I'd rather it be Jay and Barry myself but either or I guess.

Jay Garrick? A movie with Jay Garrick and Barry Allen would be wierd. Jay is Golden Age and doesn't have much of a connection with Barry Allen. Whereas Barry and Wally were both modern age, and are connected very easily (Wally served as Barry's sidekick for some time).

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I guess it could work if done right but I would prefer if it was focused on one of them, especially Barry.

[Lone Wolf]

I'd rather it be Jay and Barry myself but either or I guess.

Goyer only confirmed Barry and Wally being in the film. But before Barry and Wally, there were reports stating that the movie would focus on Jay being this astound athlete who ends up obtaining the speed. When Goyer announced Barry and Wally, it was in fact the producers that stated it would be Jay. Who knows, there's a slight chance we could end up having all three in one film channeling their own time of wearing the mask with Wally being the current one to uphold it. But only Goyer himself knows that for sure.

Way I see it, the film should center around Wally, with Flashbacks to Barry.

Could work. Probably have it show Barry mentoring Wally or when he passed on the mantle to him?

Jay Garrick? A movie with Jay Garrick and Barry Allen would be wierd. Jay is Golden Age and doesn't have much of a connection with Barry Allen. Whereas Barry and Wally were both modern age, and are connected very easily (Wally served as Barry's sidekick for some time).

Agreed.

I guess it could work if done right but I would prefer if it was focused on one of them, especially Barry.

Well, from the looks of it, we may end up seeing Barry mainly in the beginning as the first Flash.

[The Question]

Could work. Probably have it show Barry mentoring Wally or when he passed on the mantle to him?


And Barry dying. If they could, in the flashback, I'd have Wally, a few years younger, holding Barry's torn costume in his hands, and showing some of the other DC characters in the background. Like, grab Routh, Bale, whoever's playing Wonder Woman, and then just some random actors who look good for the part, and put them into costume for one shot.

[Lone Wolf]

And Barry dying. If they could, in the flashback, I'd have Wally, a few years younger, holding Barry's torn costume in his hands, and showing some of the other DC characters in the background. Like, grab Routh, Bale, whoever's playing Wonder Woman, and then just some random actors who look good for the part, and put them into costume for one shot.

This idea is something I could see on screen working really well. First show Barry taking Wally under his own training, like them taking speeding courses so Barry can watch Wally as he's growing run faster than he did the last. After have Barry showing his legacy to Wally, and everything Flash made him to be which of course inspires Wally to be even better. Then have his death be brought in to which eventually drives Wally to don the costume, and take where Barry left off. I like the idea of him holding the costume, and some of the other heroes appearing though that may not happen. Maybe a mention of some of them would work well.

One question though, how would you have Barry's death occur? Would it be by an old nemesis of his, or something else?

[The Question]

I'd say it was the Crisis. Have Wally say that there was a crisis. That everything that was was in danger. And that Barry died, saving countless billions of lives.

[JesusOfNazarath]

Jay Garrick? A movie with Jay Garrick and Barry Allen would be wierd. Jay is Golden Age and doesn't have much of a connection with Barry Allen. Whereas Barry and Wally were both modern age, and are connected very easily (Wally served as Barry's sidekick for some time).


Yeah right, Jays all over the Flash books and featured alot in others. I'd be cool if he's like the grandpa in the movie, just as like homage to the original Flash. I hope Wally's the Flash in it though. He is my favorite one. Maybe even throw in Bart.:)

[Elongated Man]

I'd rather have the concept of Barry discovering Wally has the same abilities like himself, then decides to take him under his wing while handing him the mantle. After, have the movie switches it's focus on Wally, who at the same time is trying to figure out in his own way to control his powers.

Bats, I couldn't agree more.


:) :up:

Who would you have as the villain for the film, though? I think it's a thought that should be focused on.

[Lone Wolf]

Bats, I couldn't agree more.


:) :up:

Who would you have as the villain for the film, though? I think it's a thought that should be focused on.

Hmm....I'd probably would have The Trickster be the first rouge Wally takes on when donning the mask and outfit. Trickster would be a short cameo, who's seen robbing a bank while Wally comes speeding through the streets to stop him. They exchange a few words, and Trickster reveals one of the tricks up his own sleeve. In the end, it would so Flash capturing him and delivering him to the authorities, after he's flooded with news reporters about saving the day and being Keystone's protecter. Then runs out of sight.

For the main villain however, it would be (if done right) Captain Cold. The only way to stop Flash is by freezing him dead in his tracks, it could be great to see the two fued. But like I said, that's only if it's done right and not like having him be a ripoff of Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin. Some might want to him face against Zoom, but I for one don't. Reason being, it's most likely that Wally will still be going through the process of controlling his speed. So having him fight someone who's almost as equal as he is would be irrelevent, considering this is the first film.

I'd save Zoom for a possible sequel, that way Wally would have already established how fast he can go THEN the two can square off. Which would be decent since the requirement of alot of CGI would be needed. What they could do to set him up is toward the end of the film as Hunter Zolomon, and is shown gaining his powers of his own which enables him to become Zoom. Unlikely to happen I know, but nice to imagine.

[Elongated Man]

^ UMM.....Batman, you like so rock. :up::up::up:

Ryan Reynolds for Flash!!

[warren_sparta27]

i love the idea of having Barry being Wally's mentor and taking him under his wing, before passing away, and wally becoming the new Flash.
this thing better get made in the next couple years :(

captain cold for the main villian.

[Lone Wolf]

i love the idea of having Barry being Wally's mentor and taking him under his wing, before passing away, and wally becoming the new Flash.
this thing better get made in the next couple years

With the script now being handed in, all that's needed is a proper director for the film. Though, was certain Goyer would be the one directing along with penning the adaption. We'll probably see the film around late 2008, or early 2009. Other than that, I just hope the basis of the characters are well established.

captain cold for the main villian.

Agreed, if done right....

[The Flash!]

Hmm....I'd probably would have The Trickster be the first rouge Wally takes on when donning the mask and outfit. Trickster would be a short cameo, who's seen robbing a bank while Wally comes speeding through the streets to stop him. They exchange a few words, and Trickster reveals one of the tricks up his own sleeve. In the end, it would so Flash capturing him and delivering him to the authorities, after he's flooded with news reporters about saving the day and being Keystone's protecter. Then runs out of sight.

For the main villain however, it would be (if done right) Captain Cold. The only way to stop Flash is by freezing him dead in his tracks, it could be great to see the two fued. But like I said, that's only if it's done right and not like having him be a ripoff of Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin. Some might want to him face against Zoom, but I for one don't. Reason being, it's most likely that Wally will still be going through the process of controlling his speed. So having him fight someone who's almost as equal as he is would be irrelevent, considering this is the first film.

I'd save Zoom for a possible sequel, that way Wally would have already established how fast he can go THEN the two can square off. Which would be decent since the requirement of alot of CGI would be needed. What they could do to set him up is toward the end of the film as Hunter Zolomon, and is shown gaining his powers of his own which enables him to become Zoom. Unlikely to happen I know, but nice to imagine.

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[Cinemaman]

I think it is good idea. Barry can be some kind of teacher for Wally.

Also, I think it would be good to have Weather Wizard as the main villian.

And as I can predict, filming will start in March 2007 and end in August 2007.

So movie will be realesed in May 2008.

[warren_sparta27]

really? you think it will be out that soon?
i would think it's more likey that it would come out in 2009, maybe start filming at the end of this year?

[Cinemaman]

really? you think it will be out that soon?
i would think it's more likey that it would come out in 2009, maybe start filming at the end of this year?

I think so, because casting will start at the end of this summer.

[Lone Wolf]

Also, I think it would be good to have Weather Wizard as the main villain

Weather Wizard would make a great villain for Flash to face, especially seeing it on screen. But his is the same case as Captain Cold, it could work if it's done right. Also, I was thinking earlier that if they didn't want to use Trickster, The Top or Captain Boomerang would make decent cameos.

[TheFalcon]

I think having two Flashes will be good because it would set the movie apart abit from other superhero/comic movies.

I would prefer it to focus on Wally West with flashbacks to him being mentored by Barry Allen.

If there's going to be a trilogy I would prefer these villains:

1: A small group of rogues with Captain Cold, Trickster and maybe Capt. Boomerang.
2: Weather Wizard and Mirror Master.
3: Mainly Zoom, but with all of the other Rogues thrown in too.

[Mr. Terrific]

Weather Wizard would make a great villain for Flash to face, especially seeing it on screen. But his is the same case as Captain Cold, it could work if it's done right. Also, I was thinking earlier that if they didn't want to use Trickster, The Top or Captain Boomerang would make decent cameos.

Smart man right there. Well, of course you are, you're Batman. :o :up:



And I agree with what THEFALCON, said in his post.

[GL1]

I think having two Flashes will be good because it would set the movie apart abit from other superhero/comic movies.

I would prefer it to focus on Wally West with flashbacks to him being mentored by Barry Allen.

If there's going to be a trilogy I would prefer these villains:

1: A small group of rogues with Captain Cold, Trickster and maybe Capt. Boomerang.
2: Weather Wizard and Mirror Master.
3: Mainly Zoom, but with all of the other Rogues thrown in too.

Yes! This is it here!

It should focus on Wally, but have regular and constant flashbacks to Barry Allen, ideally with John Wesley Shipp involved..

As for the movies, I'd honestly center on an aging Cobalt Blue and throwaway cameo villains like Trickster and Pied Piper... I have the image of Trickster stading outside of a bank and trying to pull something, then boom, slow motion, Wally runs up socks him and he goes flying to the side and hits the ground unconcious. Everyone cheers.

I would use the second movie to focus on Captain Cold, Heat wave, Mirror Master and Weather Wizard, though I'd have Captain Boomerang there as well with an intense 1,000 boomerang fight scene... and also Magenta as a counter-love interest to Linda Park... and introduce Hunter Zolomon... also, all three movies should center on both Flashes, and flashbacks would harken back to Boomerang's glory days and Magenta's first uncontrollable outburst of power and love fest with Wally...

The third one would center on Zoom, with cameos by a new Cobalt Blue, The Top and Captain Boomerang Jr... and involve a serious time travel tale where Zoom goes back and forth, battling with both Wally and Barry in their prime until they eventually get wise, team up and take on Zoom in a crazy time-skipping uber-speed battle.

[Warhammer]

Yes, if done right.

We need Wally be the main focus though, because he's been the Flash for the last 15+ years.

[Warhammer]

Who would be considered Flash's arch enemy?

Zoom?
Who???

[Lone Wolf]

We need Wally be the main focus though, because he's been the Flash for the last 15+ years.

Well, that's why if they do decide to use Barry, it would only be for the first scenes of the film. And like I and others have mentioned, have him retire and passing on the mantle to Wally which the movie would focus afterward.

Who would be considered Flash's arch enemy?

Zoom?
Who???

Zoom would be for both Barry and Wally, yes. Because at the time when both wore the mask, they ended up fighting their own incarnation of him. Eobard Thawne was the one Barry fought, while Hunter Zolomon was the one Wally faced.

[The Question]

Here's how the movie should work. Start shortly after Barry's death in the Crisis, with Wally taking up the role as The Flash. Have there be tention between the Rogues, with Captain Cold saying that they should play it cool out of respect for Barry, and The Top saying that with the Flash dead, it's time to party it up. The Top, along with the next gen Rogues start causing trouble all over town, and Wally has to stop them. Introduce Hunter Zolomon as Wally's friend. The next film is the Blitz arc, with foreshadowing to the Rogue War. The third film is the Rogue War.

[GL1]

Here's how the movie should work. Start shortly after Barry's death in the Crisis, with Wally taking up the role as The Flash. Have there be tention between the Rogues, with Captain Cold saying that they should play it cool out of respect for Barry, and The Top saying that with the Flash dead, it's time to party it up. The Top, along with the next gen Rogues start causing trouble all over town, and Wally has to stop them. Introduce Hunter Zolomon as Wally's friend. The next film is the Blitz arc, with foreshadowing to the Rogue War. The third film is the Rogue War.

All sounds pretty familiar, and pretty solid... one question... is there "Crisis" in the movie universe(s)... also, are there any older stories that may need adaptation, most of those sound very recent... like... I remember them vividly...

[The Question]

Well, they should just reference Barry dying to save the world, and show a flashback cene that looks like the Crisis. As for older stories, I don't know. I think those would work best on screen.

[ETHERSPIN]

a trilogy featuring jay as a legend who has only been heard of never photographed, barry as main char for number 1. wally number two, and a story that requires all 4 flashes and their individual abilities for number 3 .. some kind of villain from impulses period in the future thus impulse appears to warn them

[Edward Brock]

I'd say it was the Crisis. Have Wally say that there was a crisis. That everything that was was in danger. And that Barry died, saving countless billions of lives.Nah, they should just show the crisis in some 20 or so movies. Of course, we'd have half of the audience fleeing the theatres after 20 mins, wondering WTF was that all about. ;)

[Steelsheen]

two Flashes for the price of one? i'm so there :D :O

[Isildur´s Heir]

I have little hope for this movie to be all it could be, with Goyer on the helm.

And the idea of having two Flash´s is just dumb.
The only way to get away with it would be to focus on Barry Allen and make a cameo by Jay Garrick.

[Lone Wolf]

I have little hope for this movie to be all it could be, with Goyer on the helm.

And the idea of having two Flash´s is just dumb.
The only way to get away with it would be to focus on Barry Allen and make a cameo by Jay Garrick.

I'd prefer that it would be Barry first, then have it focus on Wally for the rest of the film while taking over the mantle after him.

[cryptic name]

the crisis would be a crazy way to explain all DC's movie universe relaunches.

[Isildur´s Heir]

I'd prefer that it would be Barry first, then have it focus on Wally for the rest of the film while taking over the mantle after him.
The way i see it is, make, at least, a trilogy with Barry Allen being the Flash.
Kill him at the end of the last movie, and continue the franchise with Wally taking over the legacy.

What you have to put in perspective is, what do you want to do!
Is it a movie about the Flash, or about the powers of the Flash.
If you want to make a movie about how cool the powers are and how he can kick the villains ass, well, let´s face it, it can be anyone behind the mask, may it be Wally, Barry, Jay...hell, even the kid next door.
But, if you really want to make a FLASH movie, if you want to make audience understand the character, feel for the character, get to know the legacy and all that jazz, well, i´m sorry to be so foward, but it´s really stupid to make a movie about Wally West, when the first Flash was Barry Allen (yeah, yeah, Jay was the first, but the comics started with Barry, so, Jay can be a retired superhero when it all starts).

[bulok]

The title of Flash comes to the fastest man alive. Certainly you can't be THE fastest man alive if you are one of two. So no. There should be only one Flash.

[dnno1]

Since the dawn of the silver age there has always been more than one flash. I don't see why there couldn't be two.

[The Flash!]

I'd prefer that it would be Barry first, then have it focus on Wally for the rest of the film while taking over the mantle after him.

I agree! :D

Might I also add this, a potential plot maybe?

In the movie, a youngster named Wally West is touring the crime scene lab of his uncle, Barry Allen, when he’s doused in chemicals - after a lightning bolt strikes them – ultimately enabling him to run faster than any other human being on earth.

[Brian Braddock]

Hopefully Shipp would play Barry again. As a fan of the tv show it would be a nice touch.
With Reynolds playing Wally, you'd be able to see the different personalities of a more serious Barry and a wiseass Wally.

It'd also be good to keep the special speed effects they used for Barry in the tv show and give Wally the updated CG ones -kind of how artists draw Barry's and Wally's speed effects differently - maybe to emphasise the difference in powers between the two - should they decide to go that route.

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[SKSpawn]

I'd like to see it done similar to how they did the Shaft remake/movie a while back, only with Jay as the elder Flash, Barry as the current Flash and Wally as his successor. Or, in a way, similar to the way they did the first Zorro, but with three Flash's.

[Darthkush]

I'd like to see it done similar to how they did the Shaft remake/movie a while back, only with Jay as the elder Flash, Barry as the current Flash and Wally as his successor. Or, in a way, similar to the way they did the first Zorro, but with three Flash's.

I think that's probably the best way to go. It does indeed set Flash apart from other superhero movies by betraying the character as part of a legacy rather than just one guy. In the same vein, a Green Lantern film would be best if it focused on the idea of the GL Corps(even though the star of the film would only be ONE of the earthbound lanterns with all the rest of them in much smaller roles).

And if they get John Wesley Shipp to play Barry again I will be one of the happier geeks on this forum for sure.:O

[Nivek]

It's nice to see Shipp getting prop's from all different people here. Nice to see the TV show still has a decent rep amoung Comic Fan's still.

[Brian Braddock]

The title of Flash comes to the fastest man alive. Certainly you can't be THE fastest man alive if you are one of two. So no. There should be only one Flash.

Yeah, but that doesnt mean that one wouldnt necessarily be faster than the other. Seem to remember Wally saying (can't remember the comic no.) that he was the fastest Flash there had ever been.

[Venom.X]

So there will be a Flash movie. Yah! Yes, I would like two Flashes, mainly because the 1st Flash is mandatory while I like Wally West the most.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

It would be cool if Barry was Flash and Wally showed up in the film as kid Flash, setting the road for him in another film or two to take over the mantle.