Supergirl STILL a spoiled brat. [Archive]

Varient

05-05-2006, 12:06 PM

It's a bad sign where the stereotypical Hothead Karen Star is the one holding back the current Supergirl.

It's depressing that in a situation where they have "secret identities" she insists on getting a tattoo that identifies her.

That she believes that the way Back to her home town is through a shrunken city whose time has passed. If Superman and others can shrink and grow to interact with others in the city,.. and people living there can leave and grow,..... why hasn't Superman moved the city to Mars and restored it?

All that's changed about this character is that she's grown some hips.

I'm still waiting to like this character like I liked Linda Danvers by the end of her run.

The Question

05-05-2006, 12:08 PM

Yeah. I have no problem with bringing back Superman's cousin, but if they're going to ddo it, don't disregard that Matrix/Linda Danvers ever existed, and don't make Kara suck ass as she does now.

Pksoze

05-05-2006, 12:41 PM

She seems very different from any Supergirl I know.

Maybe they should let Mark Waid write her. Before he wrote Wally most people hated his guts.

Plus Waid is writing her well in the Legion title.

rigel7soldiers

05-05-2006, 07:06 PM

Did we really need Kara again? Didn't we already have Kara again, anyway?

twylight

05-05-2006, 10:27 PM

Here's the thing.

I HATED and still hate the Matrix/Supergirl Hybrid. It's a stupid idea that they made to try to appease their own need for a 'Supergirl'.

But when compared to this one I'll take the Matrix anyday.

I also think it's stupid to try to say that Matrix never existed. Fine, face your mistakes but by brushing them under the carpet they're doing nothing but make it worse.

I need to work for DC in the continuity and consistance department.

The Question

05-05-2006, 10:31 PM

And really, even if you didn't like the idea of Matrix, they had some pretty good stories because of her.

warren_sparta27

05-06-2006, 07:32 AM

instead of making a new thread i'll just ask in here.
has anyone got Supergirl #6?
i tried to pick it up twice now and the guys at my comic shop keep saying it's not out yet :(

Pksoze

05-06-2006, 08:42 AM

instead of making a new thread i'll just ask in here.
has anyone got Supergirl #6?
i tried to pick it up twice now and the guys at my comic shop keep saying it's not out yet :(

Its out at least where I live.

thealiasman2000

05-06-2006, 08:48 AM

Maybe it's me, but by the way she talks and acts, the current Supergirl reminds me of Kim Possible...

warren_sparta27

05-06-2006, 09:14 AM

Its out at least where I live.

dammit :mad:
is it good so far?

Mister J

05-06-2006, 09:42 AM

dammit :mad:
is it good so far? It's decent. It's hard to truly tell because this is the first OYL issue and there are several unknown elements. Seems like it could be an interesting story though. It's certainly a different role for Power Girl.

I know I'm in the minority, but I like this Kara. I believe her maturatation will come eventually. I know it's been awhile since the Supergirl From Krypton arc, but the character is still young. The writers will settle her into a more evolved identity with time. I thought I saw hints of that at the end of the last arc. She can't have this much angst forever...right?

Anubis

05-06-2006, 10:20 AM

twylight

05-06-2006, 12:51 PM

Hard to believe the one in LOSH is even the same Supergirl.

Believe it or not I actually toyed with the idea in my head that 'Supergirl' in LOSH is actually Andromeda.

I'm desperate. :(

I hate the Supergirl in Supergirl and the one in LOSH just mocks me as to how sweet and kind she is when compared to the 'Supergirl' we've known so far.

Anubis

05-06-2006, 12:56 PM

I'm just sayin. I don't think we should judge until the end of the arc. Then we can b***h and moan if theres no change.

warren_sparta27

05-06-2006, 10:17 PM

kool, looks like i'll like it then, i like the current character
picking the issue up on thursday, cheers :)

anyone know how long the Supergirl LOSH run is planned for?

DavidTyler

05-07-2006, 12:30 PM

I've got to say that the only version of Supergirl that I ever really liked is the one by Timm and Dini.

Those two gentlemen seem to be on more often than not.

BTW, I didn't really mind Matrix... I didn't love the character but I thought Byrne and co did some interesting things with her and Luthor in the beginning.

Assassin

05-07-2006, 01:17 PM

I think you all have mommy issues

I think she's a typical teenage girl.

Anubis

05-07-2006, 01:27 PM

Yeah, I don't really see what all the fuss is about.

Assassin

05-07-2006, 02:06 PM

wow, anubis agrees with me, i an die a happy man. :D

all the ppl that hated her when she first appeard and still hate her but still buy her books so you can fiddle your faddle will grow up to be violent sexaholics and/or rapest :p

Anubis

05-07-2006, 02:07 PM

lmao
'Fiddle your faddle" Nice innuendo.

zanos

05-08-2006, 09:34 AM

Exactly why does everyone hate the new supergirl? More importantly am I supposed to read something in between Supergirl 5 and 6?

Lackey

05-08-2006, 01:06 PM

I don't know. I think they're going for a learning experience here. I mean, you can't just suddenly start writing a character as little miss sunshine when she's already been presented as...well....a b***h. You gotta show how she changes. And I can see that by the time they get out of Kandor, looking at the way things are going in that tiny little fascist paradise, she's gonna be less of a douche. I mean, I gotta figure this stuff takes place before LOS, and she seems like a decent person in that book, so the question is, how did she go from b***h to goody goody jail bait? I guess we'll find out as the arc progresses.

Completely agree... just look at Conner Kent whom everyone loved and adored, he started out as a big jerk but he learned and matured. I was reading comics when Superboy first appeared and I remember lots of people hating him.
Kara is a teenage with a pretty dark side who's had very little good parental guidance.

So anyone think when she finally does find what she thinks is the way home, it's going to actually send her 1,000 years in the future?

Lackey

05-08-2006, 01:07 PM

Exactly why does everyone hate the new supergirl? More importantly am I supposed to read something in between Supergirl 5 and 6?

There's a missing year in between those two issues, but we don't know what went on during that year.

I'd recommend that you read Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes, though.

Varient

05-08-2006, 02:16 PM

Completely agree... just look at Conner Kent whom everyone loved and adored, he started out as a big jerk but he learned and matured. I was reading comics when Superboy first appeared and I remember lots of people hating him.
Kara is a teenage with a pretty dark side who's had very little good parental guidance.

So anyone think when she finally does find what she thinks is the way home, it's going to actually send her 1,000 years in the future?
......................
Biggest diff?

Conner didn't spend the first five issues BEATING ON HEROES.

Anubis

05-08-2006, 07:56 PM

Well, in case you didn't notice, a lot of those fights she got in were the other heros trying to beat on her. PG attacked her. Wonder Girl attacked, her. The Outsiders just had a few training sessions with her. Didn't read the last couple, I heard she took on the JLA, wasn' that because of the Black Kryptonite or something? Beating on other heros? No more than anybody else really.

The Question

05-08-2006, 07:58 PM

Completely agree... just look at Conner Kent whom everyone loved and adored, he started out as a big jerk but he learned and matured. I was reading comics when Superboy first appeared and I remember lots of people hating him.
Kara is a teenage with a pretty dark side who's had very little good parental guidance.

The difference with Conner is that he was a jerk in a fun way. Kara? Not so much.

Lackey

05-08-2006, 08:08 PM

The difference with Conner is that he was a jerk in a fun way. Kara? Not so much.

sales say different

The Question

05-08-2006, 08:33 PM

If we go simply by sales, then we could say the New Avengers was better than the Kurt Busiek/George Perez run on Avengers.

Zeu

05-08-2006, 11:00 PM

Animated Supergirl´s way cooler.
PLUS, she´s big in Japan.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0681069201/biginjapan.jpg

Lackey

05-08-2006, 11:31 PM

If we go simply by sales, then we could say the New Avengers was better than the Kurt Busiek/George Perez run on Avengers.

No, not in this case because we're not talking about which one is "better"
For example, you can say that 24 is a better show than CSI:Miami and that's your opinion regardless of ratings.
However which show is hated or liked by more TV viewers is inherently linked to ratings.

Besides, even talking about which character is better is pointless.

What you're saying is basically that you liked it when Superboy was a "bad character" but not when Supergirl is now. That's probably due to the fact that you were young and you can "relate" to him...being male yourself also probably helps.

What I'm saying is that Superboy was much hated by the DC fan community when he came on to the scene, in fact, I'd say even more so than Supergirl is now. But he stuck around despite that and was allowed to grow and mature and learn from mistakes. All I'm saying is that she should be allowed the same chance to grow and mature. It's already been mentioned that her character is much better in Legion of Superheroes, maybe you should give that a chance.

warren_sparta27

05-09-2006, 02:52 AM

yeah give LOSH a try, only two issues so far but it's been pretty interesting so far.

The Question

05-09-2006, 08:21 AM

No, not in this case because we're not talking about which one is "better"

I was.

What you're saying is basically that you liked it when Superboy was a "bad character" but not when Supergirl is now. That's probably due to the fact that you were young and you can "relate" to him...being male yourself also probably helps.

No. Superboy was never a bad character. He was a jerk. But a jerk in a way where he's an interesting character. Supergirl's just annoyng. As Superboy could easily have been had he not been written as well.

What I'm saying is that Superboy was much hated by the DC fan community when he came on to the scene, in fact, I'd say even more so than Supergirl is now.

Really? How interesting.

But he stuck around despite that and was allowed to grow and mature and learn from mistakes. All I'm saying is that she should be allowed the same chance to grow and mature. It's already been mentioned that her character is much better in Legion of Superheroes, maybe you should give that a chance.

Fair point.

warren_sparta27

05-12-2006, 09:24 PM

could someone explain to me where kandor is, and who these people worshiping Kal-El are?

Anubis

05-12-2006, 10:47 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandor

warren_sparta27

05-12-2006, 11:04 PM

thanks for that :)

Anubis

05-12-2006, 11:05 PM

I aim to please.

jaydawg

05-13-2006, 01:14 AM

If we go simply by sales, then we could say the New Avengers was better than the Kurt Busiek/George Perez run on Avengers.
I'm not saying New Avengers is brilliant, but Busiek and Perez's run was nothing more than recycled plots. Just like the incredibly overrated Astonishing X-men.