How can there be an X4?

[ProfeZZor X]

If the sole proprietor of the Charles Xavier Institute for higher learning dies, and his star pupil and team leader dies, how can there conceivably be an X-Men 4?

I know in the comic book, Warren Worthington III takes over all financial matters of the institution, BUT how would that play in terms of the movie and a possible sequels? Two of it's leaders are gone, the government is fully aware of the institute, most mutants are policed by killer robots, Angel technically isn't an official X-Man, and hardly in a position to donate his family's money to the institute, and the senior characters (Beast, Storm, Wolverine) are not in the position to take over, and even if Magneto took Charles' place as headmaster, the existing students certainly wouldn't follow him after the whole Liberty Island and Golden Gate Bridge incidents.

And even though the Producers and Fox executives say this is not the last X-Men movie (spinoffs not included), what could they possibly come up with in a sequel to continue... Again, without the head of the institution.

Things are looking bleak for an X4...

[Super Flight]

they'll come back as zombies

[Lightning Strykez!]

Storm has maintained leadership of the X-Men for decades now. There is no reason why she couldn't step to the plate, especially if X3 is grooming her for that. Also, it appears that Logan is being primed as a leader too, so between the two of them and Beast as another elder, the Mansion could continue to run in Xavier's absence.

[WorthyStevens]

Wolverine as leader... that's not right at all. :(

[Psionic Force]

Gotta love a thread that states major spoilers in its title.

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Wolverine as leader... that's not right at all. :(
Exactly the way I feel.

[lordofthenerds]

Storm has maintained leadership of the X-Men for decades now. There is no reason why she couldn't step to the plate, especially if X3 is grooming her for that. Also, it appears that Logan is being primed as a leader too, so between the two of them and Beast as another elder, the Mansion could continue to run in Xavier's absence.
Then the X-mansion would change to the W-Mansion and everything Xavier had worked so hard for would be ruined and disgraced .... Actually I'm liking this idea. ;)

[Morg]

Gotta love a thread that states major spoilers in its title.


*uses eraser* not anymore

[lordofthenerds]

*uses eraser* not anymore
Morgs abusing his power! http://www.smileys.ws/smls/action/00000022.gif

[kytrigger]

Wel, the government could fund them, or they could find third party funding from say a secret society like the Hellfire Club. It could also be somethign really boring like Xavier had a will....

[Paste Pot Pete]

I think a school run by Storm and Wolverine would make me yearn for Juggernaut to level it to the ground.

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

Easy, there isn't going to be one, I highly highly dooubt it. Even if the movie does well, I dont think they'll do one, Hugh said in his interview that this is meant to be the last one, along with many others.

[Morg]

Morgs abusing his power! http://www.smileys.ws/smls/action/00000022.gif


Nah, I do know we would get some complaints about the spoiler being in the titles even though this is a spoiler forum :D

[lordofthenerds]

Easy, there isn't going to be one, I highly highly dooubt it. Even if the movie does well, I dont think they'll do one, Hugh said in his interview that this is meant to be the last one, along with many others.
But what if theres a last stand 1.5? :o

[Paste Pot Pete]

But what if theres a last stand 1.5? :o

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*Now with 11 minutes of added demolecularization!*

[Asteroid-Man]

what if beast took over? And Storm becomes leader in fighting? Also, Morg who's that in ur dp? :O

[lordofthenerds]

X-Men: The Last Stand - Special Extended Edition

*Now with 11 minutes of added demolecularization!*
Thats meh boy!

[X-Maniac]

All sorts of things could happen.

Moira McTaggert could take over, Emma Frost could take over - either of them might be the inheritors of Charles' estate.

Beast could become the resident scientist/doctor. Storm will still be there.

Perhaps an X4 would be based somewhere else - Emma Frost's school, Moira's base on Muir Island, it might be based on Genosha...

There are endless possibilities.

[berzerko89]

there is always a possibility for phoenix to rise from the ashes again... x-men vs darker phoenix part 2. lol.

[imaperson2]

great.....:( ....i stayed away from the novel spoilers to not get too spoiled. and this is what i get? this sucks. not even a spoiler tag.:mad: :down

[LastSunrise1981]

Hugh said this is the last of the trilogy, they never said it was the last X-Men film period.

When it's mentioned last of the trilogy basically means all of their stories will come full circle. It started with X1 and it'll end with X3. Then who knows, perhaps in the future we can get a story arc involving Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister. :up:

[aaron]

there can be an x4 because fox want to make more money, thats all that needs to be known..for now

[JoeCat]

There's far too many places and possibilities for the storyline(s) to go for there to not be a X4.

Pending the success of X3, of course.

[GothicPowerMix1]

great.....:( ....i stayed away from the novel spoilers to not get too spoiled. and this is what i get? this sucks. not even a spoiler tag.:mad: :down

Well this IS THE SPOILER FORUM. Not everyone uses & no one is being forced to use it in THE SPOILER FORUM. Its a risk coming here especially now

[JoeCat]

lol

[DarknessOfDeath]

Morgs abusing his power! http://www.smileys.ws/smls/action/00000022.gif

whoa ... that smiley made me feel upside down in this thread...:eek:

[imaperson2]

Well this IS THE SPOILER FORUM. Not everyone uses & no one is being forced to use it in THE SPOILER FORUM. Its a risk coming here especially now
yeah but half these thread arent even spoilerish.:(

[Eros]

They could just shut it all down anyways, im pretty sure Juggernaut levels the place anyway. The way X-3 sounds, it appears this movie may end like joss whedon "Angel" and have the remaining X-men about to take on and even bigger impossible threat at the bridge, and cyclops [or wolverine] say something in the vein of "lets gor to work". The screen fades to black, and we ar left with a did they or didn't they survive cliffhager like Angel had.

[Norkie]

They could just shut it all down anyways, im pretty sure Juggernaut levels the place anyway. The way X-3 sounds, it appears this movie may end like joss whedon "Angel" and have the remaining X-men about to take on and even bigger impossible threat at the bridge, and cyclops [or wolverine] say something in the vein of "lets gor to work". The screen fades to black, and we ar left with a did they or didn't they survive cliffhager like Angel had.

Dam you!!!! I had forgotten that and now my rage returns!!



;)
I think that really whoud be a bad ending it whoud leave fans wanting more and other people in confusion..
but thats just me.

[Advanced Dark]

There will be another X-Men movie besides the spin-off's. It might not be called X-4 though. Fox and Ratner have absoloutely no say in that matter. However I do believe we'll see a spin-off or two first unless X3 makes 600 million world wide. Then X4 will be greenlit instantly.

[L0ngsh0t]

Storm has maintained leadership of the X-Men for decades now. There is no reason why she couldn't step to the plate, especially if X3 is grooming her for that. Also, it appears that Logan is being primed as a leader too, so between the two of them and Beast as another elder, the Mansion could continue to run in Xavier's absence.

i agree a 100 percent on this, but i still think they are going with the happy ending, xavier and cyclops aren't really dead and they come back at the end any ways...it's a Pg-13

[chaseter]

There are tons of ways the institute could keep running without X and Cyclops. Pointing out a couple of reasons why X4 couldn't happen is just crazy. There will be another X movie as long as there is money to make. Beast, Storm, Angel, Wolverine, and maybe Jean would still be around to run the mansion. Just because its founder is no longer around, doesn't mean things cannot simply function.

[eXperiment]

they'll come back as zombies

RIGHT!!!! Lol

[onejeremytogo]

*uses eraser* not anymoreHow is this guy mentioning the death of Xavier NOT a major spoiler??

[MJB]

So Xavier, Jean Grey and Cyke are all dead. Who's phucking bright idea was this to leave the Xmen on this sour phucking note. I don't want to see any damn prequels. Cause that's exactly what Fox is going to pull if this movie makes a load of cash. I can't believe Marvel let them gut the Xmen like this.

[Crowley9]

I wonder if the information on the official site hints towards sequels and spinoffs. There are mentions of Scott's brother, Magneto's children and Logan's connections to Canadian military and Japan...

[FieryBalrog]

I think a school run by Storm and Wolverine would make me yearn for Juggernaut to level it to the ground.

Lol!

I would yearn in a similar fashion.

[martinbluther]

Lots of ways to continue. The world's greatest mind could easily live on in a "Obi-Wan" way, hiding his conciousness in Scott's mind, or Beast's, until they could find another body for him. Scott could be brought back with Jean. Uh, Jean is the Phoenix, so dead is a relative term. Magneto may be dead-dead for now, but who knows... My personal hope is that someone gets to re-do the whole thing with more faithfulness to the books. If the movie is as people stated, I'll just not buy the dvd and hope for a new series.... maybe even a live-action sci-fi network series...

[Rrhyno]

Storm can be the new leader for X4, isn't she the current leader in the comics & hasn't she always been next in command atfer cyclops......

[conan69]

Except Halle doesnt want to do more movies and is saying this is her last.

[CapBeerCino]

Storm has maintained leadership of the X-Men for decades now. There is no reason why she couldn't step to the plate, especially if X3 is grooming her for that. Also, it appears that Logan is being primed as a leader too, so between the two of them and Beast as another elder, the Mansion could continue to run in Xavier's absence.

Good luck with that :(

[X Patrol]

Good luck with that :(

Lol CapBeerCino I love your avvy!! :D

[imaperson2]

wow that IS a really hot avvy.

[MJB]

Lots of ways to continue. The world's greatest mind could easily live on in a "Obi-Wan" way, hiding his conciousness in Scott's mind, or Beast's, until they could find another body for him. Scott could be brought back with Jean. Uh, Jean is the Phoenix, so dead is a relative term. Magneto may be dead-dead for now,

Magneto is dead as well? Good Lord what has marvel done? Do they have no power? Why in the world would FOX axe a franchise that can go on for years?????

[the_scream]

I think it is really short-sighted to try and sum up the X-Men universe with a film trilogy and two spinoff movies. The X universe has a countless number of great stories and characters that could be explored. Instead they've settled for an X-Men universe where:

Wolverine is the main character
Beast and Angel only appear once
Cyclops never is shown as a leader
Storm is portrayed as a nobody not the goddess from the comics
Magneto is the only threat
Sentinels only exist in the danger room
Xavier is incapacitated through much of the adventures
Gambit doesn't exist
Juggernaught is Magneto's thug

Would it have killed them to make a film about the original X-Team, establishing their backgrounds and watching them work together? Isn't that what most fans want to see?

[jdreturns]

I think it is really short-sighted to try and sum up the X-Men universe with a film trilogy and two spinoff movies. The X universe has a countless number of great stories and characters that could be explored. Instead they've settled for an X-Men universe where:

Wolverine is the main character
Beast and Angel only appear once
Cyclops never is shown as a leader
Storm is portrayed as a nobody not the goddess from the comics
Magneto is the only threat
Sentinels only exist in the danger room
Xavier is incapacitated through much of the adventures
Gambit doesn't exist
Juggernaught is Magneto's thug

Would it have killed them to make a film about the original X-Team, establishing their backgrounds and watching them work together? Isn't that what most fans want to see?

spot on. :up:

[ProfeZZor X]

Would it have killed them to make a film about the original X-Team, establishing their backgrounds and watching them work together? Isn't that what most fans want to see?

That's exactly what I was thinking.... (a long time ago). I was also thinking in terms of a Star Wars trilogy... Good conquers evil, Evil triumphs over good, good beats all odds and prevails.

1st movie) Establish the original main X-Men characters in the first film (Xavier, Magneto, Angel, Beast, Iceman, Cyclops, Marvel Girl). Magneto can be perceived as a national threat, which hints at initiating the Sentinel program.

2nd movie) Magneto establishes the original Brotherhood and defeats X-Men, in revenge. Mastermold is built, and the first Sentinels are shown towards the end of the movie.

3rd movie) X-Men recruit second wave of X-Men (Thunderbird, Wolverine, Colossus, Storm, Nightcrawler) to defeat the Brotherhood. Both Brotherhood and X-Men come together to defeat the Sentinels as the finale.