Batman BEGINS chest sculpt. Some Pics..

[DAVIDYR1]

I guess when you get the BEGINS bug it doesnt easily go away. :)

These are pretty old. Much has changed so I dont mind posting them now. Total is about 5 days work to this point.

Based on the information publicly known about Bale, we sourced someone who 'more or less' fit his size, weight and body form. Full life casts were taken of this guy and when complete, pics will follow of him wearing it too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/croppedone.jpg

The details on the Begins suit are deceptive at best. Not an easy form to decipher, but a straight forward sculpt once things look clear from all angles.
It's getting there...but I dont expect to finish it for a long time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/croppedtwo.jpg

Feedback welcome.
Stay tuned....more to come....

Enjoy.

David

[batmaluco]

This is awesome, great work! :up:

[Soap]

Looks great! :up:

[Bathead]

I thought you had finished this a long time ago David. You've been at it for over a year, haven't you? Just wonderin'.

[DAVIDYR1]

Actually this is the 3rd one now.
How time flies. I remember the collaborating efforts by many here to help me get it right the first time...and this now my the 3rd attempt. We had some fun back then.

David

[Bathead]

Third attempt? Very cool. Yes it was a lot of fun, especially when we had no real clue as to what the suit actually looked like, I enjoyed all the different speculative sketches, (some of which were eerily accurate) of the costume.
BTW David, I was wondering, did you ever come up with your own original design for a Bat-costume?

[DAVIDYR1]

Third attempt? Very cool. Yes it was a lot of fun, especially when we had no real clue as to what the suit actually looked like, I enjoyed all the different speculative sketches, (some of which were eerily accurate) of the costume.
BTW David, I was wondering, did you ever come up with your own original design for a Bat-costume?


Oh yea....Some of the speculative sketches and simple remarks turned out to be pretty darn close. Fun times. Looking forward to it all over again with the next movie.
I've been so busy that any custom work I've been wanting to do for myself has all be shelved. This one I want to finish up and get out of the way asap but other custom suits and stuff are going to have to wait until we get a whole bunch of current contracts dealt with and out the door.
With some luck I'll have more progress pics here to show. Got a lot done this weekend on it so more to come...:)

David

[DAVIDYR1]

Little more work done here. Might be hard to see from the pics. You be the judge.:)
I forgot to remove the fishing string so ignore that, and by the looks of these pics I have to reduce the cod area....ouch!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/bothsides2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/bothsides3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/bothsides1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/bothsides4.jpg

Getting there....SSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW.
:)
David

[batsone]

keeping secrets is not very nice David. lol
looks good man:up:


you still got the nomex suit in the works?

[DAVIDYR1]

keeping secrets is not very nice David. lol
looks good man:up:


you still got the nomex suit in the works?


Secrets? Me?..."Nevah!"
...that was my best Alfred voice by the way. :)

Seeing as this stuff only gets done in spare time it's not easy to say what and when I'll do more but I'd like to do the Nomex suit too. We'll see...:)

David

[Nightwing1977]

Man, I just wish we live in the same town, David. Seeing as you would help me know how to make my own suit. Seeing as I don't know how to do scuplting suit & the fact I know you can't sell these because of legal issues. Darn. If only I was a Canadian or you're a American. :( :(

[DAVIDYR1]

All you need is a bit of drive and patience. Give sculpting a try. You never know what you'll be able to do unless you give it a shot. It's not like I woke up one day and was able to do things like this, none of us were. Trust me, if you want to learn....and you have passion....it will come. It's only as complicated as you make it. Heck, I still run into all sorts of problems on a daily basis.
In any case, I appreciate the vote of confidence. :) Hopefully you'll dig the final piece when complete.
Sure feels good to be seeing some of the familiar faces around here.
I think we're going to have a lot of fun as the hype builds up for BatsII.

David

[Soundwave88]

Any in my size?? lol

[captain_jimbo]

I guess when you get the BEGINS bug it doesnt easily go away. :)

These are pretty old. Much has changed so I dont mind posting them now. Total is about 5 days work to this point.

Based on the information publicly known about Bale, we sourced someone who 'more or less' fit his size, weight and body form. Full life casts were taken of this guy and when complete, pics will follow of him wearing it too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/croppedone.jpg

The details on the Begins suit are deceptive at best. Not an easy form to decipher, but a straight forward sculpt once things look clear from all angles.
It's getting there...but I dont expect to finish it for a long time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/croppedtwo.jpg

Feedback welcome.
Stay tuned....more to come....

Enjoy.

David

F**k me, you made that?

You're a genius, I'm so jealous, I want one.:up:

[Katsuro]

All you need is a bit of drive and patience. Give sculpting a try. You never know what you'll be able to do unless you give it a shot. It's not like I woke up one day and was able to do things like this, none of us were. Trust me, if you want to learn....and you have passion....it will come. It's only as complicated as you make it. Heck, I still run into all sorts of problems on a daily basis.
In any case, I appreciate the vote of confidence. :) Hopefully you'll dig the final piece when complete.
Sure feels good to be seeing some of the familiar faces around here.
I think we're going to have a lot of fun as the hype builds up for BatsII.

David

I'd love to be able to try something like this, it's just that I'd have no idea where to start. Would you ever consider creating some kind of tutorial for people with practically no experience in this type of thing? Perhaps a video of you creating one or something? That would be amazingly helpful.

[Proximo]

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[Proximo]

Nice work david as always ;)

[DAVIDYR1]

Nice work david as always ;)
Thanks everyone.
Proximo, check you PM's please.
:)

David

[DAVIDYR1]

Another quick update...

Some WIP back pics..still some lumps in the clay but they'll get tooled out...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback3.jpg

Front is pretty much done...some little tweaking but he's just about ready to be made uber smooth..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback.jpg

The light off to the right plays a funny effect on this pic...amkes it look as if he's walking forward with one arm forward and one back..:lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/wback4.jpg

A little bit of time and this week he could be done...time time time...
Critiques always welcome.

David

[thedarks0ldier]

what clay do you use?

[DAVIDYR1]

what clay do you use?

I use 2 different types of clays when sculpting. Tuckers Water Based clay...water based meaning it needs to stay moist or it will dry up and crack into pieces...

OR as in this case, I use Chavant NSP Soft Clay. I exclusively use Chavant oil clays. They are by far the best, with more options and types of clays to suit anyones needs or use. Not to mention they are a great company to deal with.

This is the back of their cataloge. I was extremely pleased (and even more greateful:up:) to see that they added a pic of my Predator head sculpt on their catalogue...right under the Batmobile no less....:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/catalogue.jpg

If you guys are scuplting...or wanting to give this stuff a try I suggest contacting Chavant for a distributer near you....their clay practically sculpts itself.
:)

David

[DAVIDYR1]

Happy to say I'm at the finishing stages now...Begun evening out the clay..free from lumps and getting it smooth...here are some close ups..


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/sm4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/SM3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/SM2.jpg

Seriously looking forward to this being finished. :spidey:
Enjoy.

David

[Cobblepot]

It's beautiful!
I think it looks even better than your first suit.

[thedarks0ldier]

Thank you,

Would you recomend the soft clay for something like; making a jointed action figure prototype?

[DAVIDYR1]

Thanks Cobblepot :)


Thank you,

Would you recomend the soft clay for something like; making a jointed action figure prototype?


I use soft clays because I started over 20 years ago with water clay and that is really soft stuff, so the transition to oil clays for me meant the softest possible.

I dont know how well a softer clay would work for an action figure and fine details like that. You may want to try Y2Klay from Chavant for that. However, try contacting them and see if they can send off some samples to you. You then could decide what clay is best to start with.

Good luck!!!

David

[DAVIDYR1]

Well..he's Done!

The back needed a little more tweaking so at the time of the pics I hadnt primed it yet. This is the sculpture, as I've started spraying it.

Spraying the sculpture...found a good dark primer.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/fsdeeehb.jpg

Few more with primer in progress..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/primed3.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/primed2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/UniversalDesigns2/primed1.jpg

Finish with primer...clear coat...flat black spray for the entire torso...gloss black for the chest bat then mold time.

I hope you like it.
:)

David

[Dark Guardian]

Wow.
'Nuff said.

But seriously, are you gonna use that now to make actual suits?

[DAVIDYR1]

Wow.
'Nuff said.

But seriously, are you gonna use that now to make actual suits?

Absolutely. :)
This is the finished clay sculpture. I've begun to prime it but the back wasnt 100% done yet...it is now.
Once the sculpture is ready, I take molds of it and run off wearable rubber armor parts.
Glad you like it. New updates shortly.
:)

David

[Batty for Bats!]

Wow!

Sorry, I didn't see this thread until I had bumped your other thread of the (i guess) old project. VERY nice Work David. I look forward to seeing this completed suit as I am with all of your work..

Did this time go alot smoother than all the others?

[Comic Book Boy]

Great job as always David, let us all know if you decide to sell any of your cowls. (I know in the past you haven't taken offers though)

[Soap]

Awesome! :up::up:

[Bathead]

Another fine job, David.
I don't know if this has been asked before, but have you ever done, or considered doing, an original design of your own?

[Cobblepot]

Could we get a few good picture's of the back?
I'll maybe one day will do a miniature version...

[DAVIDYR1]

The chest is finally ready to mold, so I thought I'd give this a quick update.:)

Been tweaking and adjusting it for a while. This is still the clay sculpture but sprayed black. The last shot of color is high gloss black because it allows me to see any remaining imperfections in the sculpt and to tool them out before I start molding it. No clear coat at this stage either.

I threw my cowl and toy belt on it to see how it would all look....
I'll also try a few more pics with the gauntlets too.

I'll have a few more up by today. Going under the silicone this afternoon...FINALLY.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/cowctbk2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/cowctbk.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/cowctbk4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/cowctbk3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/cowctbk5.jpg


Just remember...this is the clay sculpt sprayed gloss black. The castings wont be shiny like this...Not at all.

David

[DAVIDYR1]

Here are the last pics I took of it before getting it under silicone. The gauntlets you see on the sculpt are just quick slush casts and by no means perfect but I did use them regularly to help with proportions. Below you'll see a few pics of what they look like cast up properly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/congaunt.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/congaunt6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/congaunt5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/congaunt4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/congaunt3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/congaunt2.jpg

Proper casts of guantlets..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/progaunt.jpg

The next pics I post are of the rubber chest casting...this has been a loooong road.... and almost over...sad but happy.

David

[damianpadden]

David,

I have watched your progress since day one, that's what got me started on my suit, and this is a work of art pure class.

The Force is strong with this one.


Damian

[DAVIDYR1]

David,

I have watched your progress since day one, that's what got me started on my suit, and this is a work of art pure class.

The Force is strong with this one.


Damian

Hey Damian,

That's probably one of the most flattering things for me, hearing that someone following some of my work has felt inspired to try it themselves. Way to go man and thanks for letting me know this.:word:
Yea, you have been around since the beginning. Those earlier threads that started nearly 2 years ago now were a lot of fun. I really look forward to the hype building up again and us all dissecting everything that gets thrown at us as we did with Begins..fun times. :)

...and remember...the force surrounds us...binds us...it's everywhere.. inside that life cast...inside that block of clay and in your own hands too. The force is potentially strong in us all....:cwink:

:)

David

[Lando81]

David,
I've been following you in one way or another ever since you started up at the hype. YOU ARE AMAZING. YOUR WORK IS AMAZING. I can honestly see so many people getting interested in this profession because of your work. I cant wait to see your next project. Would you mind a Suggestion? how about something along the lines of the Knightfall lines?

[DAVIDYR1]

David,
I've been following you in one way or another ever since you started up at the hype. YOU ARE AMAZING. YOUR WORK IS AMAZING. I can honestly see so many people getting interested in this profession because of your work. I cant wait to see your next project. Would you mind a Suggestion? how about something along the lines of the Knightfall lines?


Thanks buddy!!! Like I said above, if what I do helps or inspires others to give this sort of thing a try then that is by far the biggest compliment one could hope for!!!

Batman Knightfall...can you post some pics? Show me...Intrigue Me...:oldrazz:

I will be honest though...when the Begins suit, DKR project and the Demon Bat suit is done I plan to get back to much needed other things but...we do also have a new Bat flick coming so I cant wait to see what the suit and other cool things look like from it...:)

And...curious about the Knightfall....post some pics here if you like. :) No worries.

David

[Cobblepot]

Here's Azrael's Batman from Knightfall.

http://www.superherostuff.com/OtherItems/Action_Figures/images/azrael_batman_action_figure_2.jpg

http://www.tcomics.com/showcase/trades/b/batm/knightfall3.jpg

http://www.tropiccomics.com/ebay/pbbatmankfbeyond.jpg

Just the gloves would be great!

[DAVIDYR1]

Cool!!!...
Yup...thought about doing that one for a while now.:)
Something SPAWN like about him...and I love SPAWN....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Rotation_of_PDRM0332.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/spawnbody.jpg


Also cool colors for this Batman!!! Finally something we can actually see when photographing!!!

Not at all something to rule out....cool suggestion...cool!

David

[Cobblepot]

Cool Spawn suit.
Azbat's is mostly Armor, would that even be possible to do for you?

[DAVIDYR1]

Cool Spawn suit.
Azbat's is mostly Armor, would that even be possible to do for you?

Sure...no problem.
The Begins suit is also supposed to look like armor but we all know it was rubber.
Azbat's could be done the same. In the end as long as it 'looks' like armor or the drawings, that's all that really matters.
I'm also working on an Iron Man suit and that's certainly 'supposed' to be all armor but it wont be in the end for what I'm doing.
Should be cool!

David

[Lando81]

Sweet! Looking forward to it!

[Cobblepot]

Yeah me too.
But a "rubber" Iron Man is pushing it a bit I think, David.
Did it work out with Lee? Btw.

[DAVIDYR1]

Yeah me too.
But a "rubber" Iron Man is pushing it a bit I think, David.
Did it work out with Lee? Btw.


Differnt forms of rubber give you different results. Sure, Iron Man needs to look like some kind of crisp metal alloy but there are ways of communicating that look without going the route of the Stormtrooper armor or things similar to that.
Robocop is a great example for instance...and sure, there were vac formed hard plastic parts to that but there were also plenty of cast rubber elements to that suit.
Remember...it's how it looks and how it functions above all else...how you make it is secondary...make it look like metal....without it having to be that way is the trick to our industry. :)

David

[Cobblepot]

Robocop, yes that was a great costume. The black was "rubber" right and the armour was the hard plastic.

[DAVIDYR1]

Finally got around to finishing and demolding the sculpt.

The mold picked up everything just as it should have...glossy bat chest logo and flat, matt finished for the rest of the torso.
Here's a quick pic of what the finished chest logo looked like...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/2006_0912chdneblk40005.jpg

And now the inside of the silicone mold..just dont mind my finger print....LOL...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/bw2p.jpg

The entire costume is black, but the batshop had a cool idea to give the suit 2 different finishes so that light would reflect off of it differently.
The torso casting is nearly ready to be shown...with some luck I get that exact same effect in the final casting too. :)

David

[Cobblepot]

That's even better than the original!

[stingray66]

Painting the 'Bat insignia" shiney VERY VERY cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you guys make the utility belt as well??????

[ghost113]

i'm starting to think that batman can truly be real has any one seen the batmobile someone made.

[Borti]

Hello,

I have a few questions for the OP.

1) Do you plan on building all the pieces required for a full and complete suit except boots (I am guessing you are but I want to make sure).

2) Do you plan on making these suits available for purchase by the public i.e. me?

I realize you probably have no idea of what the price would be as the suit is not complete but I would be interested in knowing these few small details as I have been searching for a high-quality batsuit for two years now!

Thank you,

-Bobby

[DAVIDYR1]

Thank you everyone!!! :)

I will have photo updates very soon.

The suit will be complete including the boots, gloves, undersuit, cape, all rubber armor and possibly the belt. I will make the belt also but am far to busy to dedicate time to that currently so that just might get done in the future.
I'm in no hurry because this is not going to be for sale or trade or anything like that. As much as I appreciate your interest here unfortunately I just dont sell any of my Bat related items.

I have fun making them in my spare time...spare time explains why this has been taking so long...dont exactly have much of it...LOL...

David

[Lando81]

David I have a Question.....do you sell any of your projects? I'd be willing to buy one.

[DAVIDYR1]

What project are you referring to? If it's Bat related then unfortunately I cant...other things maybe..custom things are absolutely no problem but if it's our boy here in ANY movie variation then...sorry..No can do.
Just send me a PM with your thoughts or ideas.
:)

David

[Lando81]

Could you do an Amalgamish type project? Like Combining two heroes into one completly new hero im not saying any certain heroes im just asking if its "legal"

[DAVIDYR1]

If it's 'completely New' then there should be absolutely no worries what so ever.

Shoot me a PM...email, whatever you like..let's see what we can do!

David

[Lando81]

ok sounds sweet Ill work on a Drawing and send it to ya. It'll be along the Xmenish lines Jacket wise for a fair warning.

[The Only Woj]

David, if I decide to become a superhero some day, would I be able to get you to make me a costume?

[DAVIDYR1]

David, if I decide to become a superhero some day, would I be able to get you to make me a costume?

Just as long as you get your superpowers from somewhere else...my rubber suits arn't really bullet proof...LOL

OK...got my first 'test pull' from the mold.
Why a test pull? Well the material is injected into the mold, there are no open areas to view inside of it so to be able to have weight ratio for future castings I have to go through a test process to determine that. That was a little 'wordier' than it should have but I think you get the idea...

It's NOT mounted. You'll also see some fingerprints because I demolded it...trimmed it a bit, not even all of it..LOL and wanted to see how it all looked.
Also, the belt is the Toys R Us kids belt. It's small so it's going to look weird because it just doesnt cover as much of that area as it needs to but eh, it's all I have for now.

It fits like a glove!! It forms to the body and flex's beautifully. The whole thing has a sandy mat finish to it while the bat logo is glass smooth. I guess I should have polished it before taking the pics but eh...sue me for being excited..LOL!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/PH3ch5.jpg

The cowl and chest are cast from 2 different rubbers so they do look different in color. The cowl and gauntlets are just quick reject casts I used throughout the sculpting of the torso for proportions and positioning of different details.

What I'm thrilled at is how the relationship of the base of the cowl and the torso bat logo is properly spaced.

I cant wait to attach this to an undersuit, punch the collar clip holes and mount the whole thing up with cape away I go.

Is it wrong to be happy? I hope not..LOL...My 3rd Begins Chest sculpt...a few years later and finally I'm as happy as I was the first time I made a rubber batsuit back in 89.

And now the Legs...... oh joy...

David

[Cobblepot]

Looks great...I can't wait to see the entire suit on you or someone else.
Make sure you get some awesome pics then...

[Sam_298]

Are you sure you didn't work on Batman Begins?
:up:

[DAVIDYR1]

Are you sure you didn't work on Batman Begins?
:up:

LOL :)

Here are a few with a fan made belt. I didnt make it but like how it looks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/codba.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/baside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/ba2.jpg

The belt is a good size and pretty accurate. It seems to go well with the torso piece.

More to come...ohh, much more. :)

David

[a1081918]

Kick ass... are you working on an undersuit? if so, when will it be ready???

[Bnightwing]

i like the orginal but this 1 is more gothicish

[DAVIDYR1]

Kick ass... are you working on an undersuit? if so, when will it be ready???

I made undersuit patterns for a third party, so yes, in a sense I am 'working' on one. I'm in no rush to mount it though so I really dont know when that will happen. All in good time I guess. :)

Oh and here's a cool pic showing the comfort and flexibility of the armor I made.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/UDesigns1/Universaldesigns3/stretch.jpg

Enjoy!

David