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05-07-2006, 09:18 PM

Niiice. I didn't read those issues, but is Rogue going back to being able to recall past powers she's absorbed? I still long for the days of Ms. Marveled Rogue. Biggest thing was getting rid of those fire powers though...I'd rather see Rogue able to "remember" all the stuff she's absorbed in the past than become known as a generic fire generating mutant. Those powers don't fit her.

usagicassidy

05-07-2006, 10:20 PM

Oh man...I am so ready for this. I've been ready since Golgotha...I've been waiting...I hope I'm not let down.

El Bastardo

05-07-2006, 10:45 PM

Well, the art there isn't so bad as was the cover.

I suppose I might give it a flip-through when the issue comes out and see whether or not I can deal with Bachalo's handywork.

Abaddon

05-07-2006, 10:53 PM

Yes!I've been hoping she'd be able to regain her past powers again.:)

Exploding Boy

05-07-2006, 10:54 PM

Looks like she has some kind of skin that reflects energy back, like Nimrod sorta.

spark627

05-08-2006, 12:06 AM

this looks really interesting!

i wonder what rogue will be able to do

Abaddon

05-08-2006, 12:07 AM

Looks like she has some kind of skin that reflects energy back, like Nimrod sorta.

No,she just iced up.

FieryBalrog

05-08-2006, 12:56 AM

I wish they would quit ****ing with her powers. What? Another new one?

Cyclops

05-08-2006, 01:19 AM

No,she just iced up.

I thought she Colossus'd up. :shrug:

Manic

05-08-2006, 01:57 AM

See, I thought she was Emma'd up.

Cyclops

05-08-2006, 02:18 AM

Maybe she's Silver Surfer'd up.

Naaah, that would require the X-Verse to actually exist in the same universe as the rest of the 616.

Manic

05-08-2006, 02:47 AM

Naaah, that would require the X-Verse to actually exist in the same universe as the rest of the 616.
Only Wolverine is allowed to do that. [insert "Wolverine in every comic" rant here]

mightiest_mortal

05-08-2006, 08:40 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmm...

...i wonder if this preview is a spoiler for astonishing X-Men.

usagicassidy

05-08-2006, 09:45 AM

how so?

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05-08-2006, 11:35 AM

I thought she was using Emma's powers in that panel too. Has she ever absorbed Emma while Emma had her diamond powers? Whatever she's doing, it looks like she's reflecting back all the energy that those dudes shot at her...only thing is it looked like electricity when they shot her and it's coming off as red lasers when she reflects it back...?

mightiest_mortal

05-08-2006, 11:44 AM

how so?
its the line in the latest Astonishing.. "I wonder, if it got out of control, would it only come out of my eyes" ..seems to be a bit of forshadowing.
If Cyc really has gained complete control of his beams.. and they dont need to just come out of his eyes, it is plausable that his powers would appear in the same way those beams are shown here.

SMroxs

05-08-2006, 12:13 PM

I still think it's odd that Bachalo has her in an outfit that's basically the same as what he designed for her in last year's AOA 6-issue limited series, but whatever.

If Rogue really is going to be able to recall powers at will she is SO totally going to kick ass. I've borderline hated her character over the past year and this would definitely bring her back into my good graces. It looks like she's using several powers at once too which would pretty much make the new super-powered bada$$ on the team.

Of course then she would be slated to go evil in the grand Marvel tradition of female characters who get too powerful...

KingOfDreams

05-08-2006, 12:19 PM

Bachalo's art there doesn't look as bad as it has recently so who knows, maybe I'll like this after all.

Abaddon

05-08-2006, 01:49 PM

I thought she Colossus'd up. :shrug:

Too blue for metal. But maybe she did go Diamond form.

canned_raccoon

05-08-2006, 02:15 PM

yeah, looks to me like she's in diamond form, and using her hand like a prism to shoot cyclops's blasts through.. i think if she was in ice form she'd have blown her hand off with that trick.. but also, if they are cyclops's powers, it looks like she can control them, so i can see how this might be a spoiler for astonishing too..

Essex

05-08-2006, 02:42 PM

I still think it's odd that Bachalo has her in an outfit that's basically the same as what he designed for her in last year's AOA 6-issue limited series, but whatever.

Well, it stands to reason that she'd have the same taste in clothes whether Xavier was alive or not :)

yeah, looks to me like she's in diamond form, and using her hand like a prism to shoot cyclops's blasts through...

Yeah, that's exactly what it looks like, and that is AWESOME! Very inventive way of using the powers.

ghost113

05-08-2006, 05:12 PM

Where did this come from?

Abaddon

05-08-2006, 08:29 PM

I didn't even know she's absorbed Emma's powers.

moonstar

05-08-2006, 08:49 PM

its the line in the latest Astonishing.. "I wonder, if it got out of control, would it only come out of my eyes" ..seems to be a bit of forshadowing.
If Cyc really has gained complete control of his beams.. and they dont need to just come out of his eyes, it is plausable that his powers would appear in the same way those beams are shown here.
That would be sooo kool i'm peeing in my pants- i hope they give him a new costume if his beams aren't restricted to his eyes.

As for Rogue I dig whatever power they giave just because she seems to have a new attitude. I wouldn't say the new powers don't go with her I'd just say keep the powers but that funky old green one does not complement her new look when her skin turns blue ...which is awesome

Aptman

05-08-2006, 11:18 PM

yeah, looks to me like she's in diamond form, and using her hand like a prism to shoot cyclops's blasts through.. i think if she was in ice form she'd have blown her hand off with that trick...

Well, Cyclops is immune to his own powers, so maybe that would explain it.

KingOfDreams

05-08-2006, 11:30 PM

That would be sooo kool i'm peeing in my pants- i hope they give him a new costume if his beams aren't restricted to his eyes.

I don't like it that Cyke now has control of his powers. I mean, not having control is the basis of his entire character...and name and costume when you get right down to it.

Abaddon

05-08-2006, 11:32 PM

so is not having control the basis of Rogue's entire character as well?

Cyclops

05-08-2006, 11:32 PM

He does?! Gee, thanks for the spoiler warning. :mad:

KingOfDreams

05-08-2006, 11:33 PM

Sorry. I thought everybody would have known already. My mistake.

KingOfDreams

05-08-2006, 11:35 PM

so is not having control the basis of Rogue's entire character as well?

It is, but for some reason, to me, giving Cyclops control is more destructive to his character than giving Rogue control. Don't ask me why, that's just how I feel. Maybe it's because Rogue's appearence won't have to change. Cyclops' doesn't have to but it could. Logistically speaking, I would think he would want to stop wearing the visor. The couple times I've seen pics of him without his glasses or visor on he looks kind of wierd. But I guess I can get used to anything. Maybe.

Exploding Boy

05-08-2006, 11:35 PM

He doesent, well... Its not sure. And Abaddon is that a swastika in your avatar :confused:?!?!?

Aptman

05-08-2006, 11:38 PM

I don't like it that Cyke now has control of his powers. I mean, not having control is the basis of his entire character...and name and costume when you get right down to it.

Well, if its just for this story line, it might be pretty good. I mean, whatever is going on, Emma was given a secondary mutation. Maybe the Hell Fire Club is really back, or maybe its all apart of some wacked-out thing Emma is going through. If Scott was given this "gift" (like Emma got her secondary mutation), maybe it was to cause some doubt in his future decisions. I mean, he's going to get to explore what its like to have complete control. That could be an interesting journey for him. And then, he might be put in a spot where he has to choose to go back to not having control in order to save the day (like by defeating Prefection, or by choosing to save Breakworld). Then he'll have to deal with going back to how things were...all in the name of the greater good.

KingOfDreams

05-08-2006, 11:39 PM

Well, yeah, if it ends up just being a plot device I'm okay with it. It will be interesting to see how he deals with it regardless of how long it lasts.

Aptman

05-08-2006, 11:46 PM

Well, yeah, if it ends up just being a plot device I'm okay with it. It will be interesting to see how he deals with it regardless of how long it lasts.

Yeah, but Biclops lasting for more than a few issues would be really push my faith in Whedon.

BrianWilly

05-08-2006, 11:49 PM

Abaddon

05-09-2006, 12:09 AM

He doesent, well... Its not sure. And Abaddon is that a swastika in your avatar :confused:?!?!?
Yes,but don't worry, I'm not a Nazi.:)

Exploding Boy

05-09-2006, 12:10 AM

Thats good...

moonstar

05-09-2006, 10:17 AM

I don't think she's actually shooting beams out of her hands, but that she's using her hand as a prism for the beams coming out of her eyes. Admittedly, the art isn't really that clear on just what is happening.
YEAH WELL I THOUGHT THAT-the prism hand thing Rogue did- WAS ONE OF THE COOLER THINGS TO LOOK FOWARD TO :HOW CREATIVE SCOTT COULD BE IN USING HIS BEAMS WITH MORE THAN HIS EYES. FOR SUCH A TACTICIAN ROGUE BEAT HIM TO IT.

As for the visor I don't see him getting rid of it immediately he has to learn how to use them remember?

Maybe his powers will be like Kitty's now -he has to focus to shoot them from other areas or to prevent them from coming out of his eyes.
This way he can keep the Ruby Quartz shades.

I hope it's a permanent change that he doesn't master fully for a long time. That way there's more conflict and struggle and hopefully he'll stop being whiney Scott to kickass -u-should b -very afraid leader of the xmen.:o
the whole team needs to be emotionally,visually revamped like lee did for them in the 90's

Exile

05-09-2006, 10:30 AM

if Rogue regains her abilities to recall previously absorbed powers I may fall in love with her again!

Aptman

05-09-2006, 01:06 PM

if Rogue regains her abilities to recall previously absorbed powers I may fall in love with her again!

I fear he day when she can recall powers again. I mean, think about why she can't now...she would be way too powerful... and that only leads to limbo...just ask pheonix...The Pheonix still gets talked about because one of the greatest X-men sories ever revolved around her...unless the story writing gets a lot better, I don't think Rogue will have that luck.

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05-09-2006, 01:19 PM

Aptman

05-09-2006, 01:34 PM

While I think the power recall stuff could be cool, it also doesn't make sense that she's able to control these powers so well. The mutants she got the powers from had to be trained to use them and it's not right that Rogue can look like she been firing optic blasts from her eyes since she was potty-trained. The recall stuff would be cool only if she would be hestitant to ever do it and also have the effects not always be positive...maybe she takes out a wall or two by mistake once every so often...and no using more than one person's power at once.

I agree that I think there would need to be major limitations on how her power to recall abilities should work, I doubt there would be any... I mean, a writer could argue that since she can recall all powers, then she could just as easily recall all memories she absorbed (which would include training learned by each person she got the power from).

... i hate it when writer make characters too powerful. Where's the need for team effort when people that are apart of that team can do anything?

Exile

05-09-2006, 02:08 PM

I think her powers may work like they did in the issues of Xtreme Xmen when Sage buffed her up. It looked like she was accessing multiple abilities at once, she has done that before also when she fought Nimrod with Collosus, Nightcrawler and Cyclops powers combined. It looked really cool but you are right, she would be way too powerful and something would have to give.

Colossal Spoons

05-09-2006, 02:19 PM

I'm pretty excited for this book with exception of two factors: Sabertooth and Mystique.

LittleMissVixen

05-09-2006, 02:38 PM

I'm pretty excited for this book with exception of two factors: Sabertooth and Mystique.

Ditto....Welcome to X-Factor II, circa 1996/97....Been there, done that.

http://www.alphaflight.net/cover_gallery/x-factor_132.jpg

ghost113

05-09-2006, 03:52 PM

I totally forgot about that and what is this about Cyclops being able to control his powers now?

Exile

05-09-2006, 04:30 PM

Check out Astonishing X-Men #14. It looks like a personal mental block has been whats kept Scott from controlling his optic blasts and Emma may have either helped him unlock it or lobotomized him or both. -)

ghost113

05-09-2006, 04:43 PM

cool maybe I will when did it come out.

f4faith

05-10-2006, 09:45 AM

I agree that I think there would need to be major limitations on how her power to recall abilities should work, I doubt there would be any... I mean, a writer could argue that since she can recall all powers, then she could just as easily recall all memories she absorbed (which would include training learned by each person she got the power from).

... i hate it when writer make characters too powerful. Where's the need for team effort when people that are apart of that team can do anything?

I agree over powered characters just get old but I don't know why everyone is assuming she is recalling powers - can't she just have absorbed Cyke and Emma recently? But the whole prism thing and how Rogue can use powers better than someone else depends on first is it cyke's power - if it is - it should not work that way. Cyke's power is a force beam not light powers (ie a laser) a prism should not do anything to it but maybe be able to bounce off of it in one stream not break into many. The reason Cyke hasn't done something like this is because it shouldn't happen if it's his power. As to Rogue using others powers remember that she absorbs their memories too - which means she briefly learns to use their power as well at they do (shouldn't be better) so I have no problem with that. It's nice to see Rogue kicking butt again but I agree all the villains on this team has been done and it just doesn't interest me.