View Full Version : How many fights do you think there should be?
gamemiester
05-08-2006, 06:03 AM
These are just the fights between Spiderman and the main villain.
In Spider-Man 1 I think theres 3 fights isnt there;
SM vs GG at festival = SM wins.
SM vs GG in burning home = GG wins?
SM vs GG in house ruins = SM wins.
Then In Spider-Man 2 I think there are also 3 right?
SM vs DO bank attack = SM wins?
SM vs DO on train = DO wins
SM vs DO on edge of harbour = Kind of a draw/
For number 3 though theres more than one villain Sand man and Green Goblin 2 I dont believe that Venom will be in this film. The battles I think there should be:
SM vs GG2 dont know where = SM wins
SM vs Sand man with the armored truck scene = Sand man wins
SM in black suit vs GG2 and Sand man in church= SM wins
I dont know what should happen next but Black Spiderman beats them both.
A bell in the church rings SM loses his Black suit, Eddie then gets it.
SM is worn out Sandman is about to kill him GG2 goes normal saves SM but dies himslef.
3 or 4 battles should be enough in SM3.
3dman27
05-08-2006, 06:25 AM
3 spider-man vs villian battles one mj vs villians henchwoman/karate class opponent
CrashNburn
05-08-2006, 07:17 AM
i have a feeling that there will be more than three in this one.
ElectroFlare
05-08-2006, 07:29 AM
one mj vs villians henchwoman/karate class opponent
You should have said...
MJ vs Gwen mudwrestling match
Hunter Rider
05-08-2006, 07:51 AM
As many as drive the narrative,writing the movie around fights is a bad idea
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 08:17 AM
Four.
The Joker
05-08-2006, 08:23 AM
Well if ONE villain got THREE fights with Spidey,then by that logic Sandman,GG2 and Venom combined should give a whopping NINE fights ;)
Seriously,Sandman will probably give about 2-3 fight scenes,I think Harry might have about two,and Venom will just have the one at the end,because we know he doesn't show up until the end.Though I think Venom will be sharing his fight scene with the other two villains.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 08:25 AM
Well if ONE villain got THREE fights with Spidey,then by that logic Sandman,GG2 and Venom combined should give a whopping NINE fights ;)
Seriously,Sandman will probably give about 2-3 fight scenes,I think Harry might have about two,and Venom will just have the one at the end,because we know he doesn't show up until the end.
And there's the chance (which I don't necessarily like) of multiple villains involved in one fight. Villain team-ups scare me. :(
DroolingforGwen
05-08-2006, 08:27 AM
Regular Spidey vs Sandman
GG2 Spidey (small alley battle)
Black Spidey vs Sandman
End Battle: SPidey vs Sandman... (if he isn't already dead)... Venom vs Sandman... GG2 vs Venom... the end
Odin's Lapdog
05-08-2006, 08:30 AM
you know, i could honestly llive with just two really good extended ones.
What i would kill for is some decent story.
unfortunately with the line up of villains, i find it hard to see each fight being unique, the more included teh more repetitive they would become.
the ones in the first film were kinda repetitive
all the ock fights were similar (and in structure similar to the gg ones from the first film).
haha, wouldn't it be nice for spidey to NOT get KIDNAPPED and set free by the main villain only to lose to him later on.
haha, ock and norman are both bums...
:D
Immortalfire
05-08-2006, 08:30 AM
50 bazillion fights, divided evenly between Sandman and Harry Goblin.
Sean Adisano
05-08-2006, 10:33 AM
And there's the chance (which I don't necessarily like) of multiple villains involved in one fight. Villain team-ups scare me. :(
i'm with you on that. villian team ups are a no no in my books. but maybe it will be spidey and 2 other villians fighting, but its everyman for himself. i don't know how it would be done, but just have everyone against each other. its possible. i take it over team ups, especially if venom is one of the villians, to put it plain and simple, he's a loner.
3dman27
05-08-2006, 11:19 AM
You should have said...
MJ vs Gwen mudwrestling match
that works as well
Bat Attack
05-08-2006, 11:36 AM
Three or four.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 11:39 AM
Four seems like the best bet, IMO.
Silver Sable
05-08-2006, 11:44 AM
I would say between 4-6 fights
Odin's Lapdog
05-08-2006, 12:04 PM
you all know the more fights there are, the more inconsistent they will be.
same with swinging scenes
DroolingforGwen
05-08-2006, 12:12 PM
U just can't avoid fewer than atleast four scenes of battling... convoluted but it will be very interesting... and am I a loner on wanting to see Venom and Sandman go at it... afterall... SPidey never defeats his bad guys straight up...
Odin's Lapdog
05-08-2006, 12:15 PM
except for in his last two films.
superkong 500
05-08-2006, 12:24 PM
I think four fights would be right,
1.sandman v.s spidey
2.spidey v.s GG2 alley fight
3.black suit spidey v.s sandman
4.battle royale two on two,spidey gets knocked out for some time venom kills sandman,then comes back to finish spidey but harry gets in between they fight but venom ultimately kills harry,then the final match. Spidey gets really angry at venom and both of them go at it like we've never seen before.anyway there'isn't much fights in any of the first two films I mean they called them fights but is mostly spidey flipping and jumping around and the villain kicking the crap out of him most of the time.I really wanna see a fight in which spidey really unleashes and gets nasty with the villain,and I also wanna see spidey doing new acrobatic feats,hopefully we'll get them with the symbiote spidey.
DroolingforGwen
05-08-2006, 12:40 PM
I think four fights would be right,
1.sandman v.s spidey
2.spidey v.s GG2 alley fight
3.black suit spidey v.s sandman
4.battle royale two on two,spidey gets knocked out for some time venom kills sandman,then comes back to finish spidey but harry gets in between they fight but venom ultimately kills harry,then the final match. Spidey gets really angry at venom and both of them go at it like we've never seen before.anyway there'isn't much fights in any of the first two films I mean they called them fights but is mostly spidey flipping and jumping around and the villain kicking the crap out of him most of the time.I really wanna see a fight in which spidey really unleashes and gets nasty with the villain,and I also wanna see spidey doing new acrobatic feats,hopefully we'll get them with the symbiote spidey.
Yay... someone agrees with me...
DroolingforGwen
05-08-2006, 12:44 PM
Plus I don't think we can call the alley fight with GG2 a true fight... that picture showed another guy in regular clothes who might have been Parker... I think it will probably be more a warning threat from GG2 to foreshadow the end...
DroolingforGwen
05-08-2006, 12:47 PM
except for in his last two films.
No he didn't... Spidey dodges the glider... GG2 kills himself pretty much... Ock should've should have been smarter thrusting his arm into that circuit like that... Spidey has never really killed someone with his own actions... I think there was a thread on that earlier of how SPidey never kills anyone so I'm going by what was discussed previously... he isn't a killer....
chosen1
05-08-2006, 12:56 PM
I always say a Herd is a good round number? :D
Odin's Lapdog
05-08-2006, 01:13 PM
No he didn't... Spidey dodges the glider... GG2 kills himself pretty much... Ock should've should have been smarter thrusting his arm into that circuit like that... Spidey has never really killed someone with his own actions... I think there was a thread on that earlier of how SPidey never kills anyone so I'm going by what was discussed previously... he isn't a killer....
you said spidey never defeats his bad guys straight up?
in the first film at the end he beats goblin and wins the fight. what happened at the end was irrelevant to the fight that occured and stopped moment before. who remains alive at the end can be independantly viewed from who gained victory in the battle if the death was not caused by the battle itself and was due to an incident previous of thereafter.
as for ock, there are too many techinicalities in their battles, that's far more open to intepretation so thats just going to get dragged out.
so for the benefit of the doubt, i'll say in his first film.
oh and for the record, Spidey killed Wolverine's girl in berlin by smashing her face in while some say his actions also killed gwen while attempting to save her but believe what you will.
parker isnt so squeaky clean.
:)
CrashNburn
05-08-2006, 01:19 PM
i have a feeling that there will be more than three in this one.
I SAY ABOUT 5!
gamemiester
05-08-2006, 01:39 PM
I think more than 4 would be to much.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 02:38 PM
I think more than 4 would be to much.
Which is what I've been saying. :up:
GoldGoblin
05-08-2006, 02:41 PM
Four.
^Yep.
TrueBeliever
05-08-2006, 02:46 PM
No less than four. A team up would be insane. Insanely nice, that is...
Green Goblin 1964
05-08-2006, 03:41 PM
Four.agreed. i am trusting the Q & A for now so since Sandamn is the main villain i think he gets 2 fights. then gg2 will get one fight. then at the very end GG2, spidey, venom, and sandman.
Trevor Goodchild
05-08-2006, 04:04 PM
I believe 3 are just enough.
What I really would like to see is not a fight but an all out chase sequence.
Really am hoping for some quick swinging action while chasing Sandman or GG2.
Weapon M
05-09-2006, 01:39 AM
you guys really have a undramatic way of presenting HobGoblin (Please let it be Hobgoblin!!!!)...
I think the Hobgoblin charector is going to surprise you guys- you keep mentioning the GG 2... I think thats weak.. We already saw Green Goblin 2!!! Lets see a new charector, even though it isnt Harry in the comics.. .but Ned Leeds does stumble upon Normans layer right? And Ned is the first one to stumble upon Normans secret hideout before Harry even discovered the horrible, private, dark, embarrassing secret of his father.
So, I think that would be the coolest thing. And it should be an event that happends outside of the story,, not within it.. I think it should be like that dramatic fight with Smoke and Lu Kang in Mortal Kombat.. A inconsequential fight,, but everyone got off their seats in shock and awe!! They all cheered and serenaded the screen!!! I looked around and people had their hands on their head.. An old lady had to be fanned and woken up!The ushers sat down, audience got up! I saw tears running down someone's cheek as they witnessed this scene! It was a moment to last forever in movie history!!
lol
Sean Adisano
05-09-2006, 05:26 AM
you guys really have a undramatic way of presenting HobGoblin (Please let it be Hobgoblin!!!!)...
I think the Hobgoblin charector is going to surprise you guys- you keep mentioning the GG 2... I think thats weak.. We already saw Green Goblin 2!!! Lets see a new charector, even though it isnt Harry in the comics.. .but Ned Leeds does stumble upon Normans layer right? And Ned is the first one to stumble upon Normans secret hideout before Harry even discovered the horrible, private, dark, embarrassing secret of his father.
So, I think that would be the coolest thing. And it should be an event that happends outside of the story,, not within it.. I think it should be like that dramatic fight with Smoke and Lu Kang in Mortal Kombat.. A inconsequential fight,, but everyone got off their seats in shock and awe!! They all cheered and serenaded the screen!!! I looked around and people had their hands on their head.. An old lady had to be fanned and woken up!The ushers sat down, audience got up! I saw tears running down someone's cheek as they witnessed this scene! It was a moment to last forever in movie history!!
lol
when did we see GG2???
no offense, but the mortal kombat movies were horrible, i didn't see them in the theater, but i can't believe i wasted time watching on t.v. please don't compare Spider-Man to those movies, for my sake at least :)
harry has to be the green goblin, he found the lair, and why would he call himself the hobgoblin? in SM1, norman didn't name himself, j.j came up with the name, so if the goblin comes around again in the city, my guess is they will call it the green goblin again, not GG2, just green goblin, but us as the fans know its GG2 and not hobgoblin. just my opinion.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:10 AM
If he was green goblin most people will find him a copy of the first.
Cmill216
05-09-2006, 07:13 AM
If he was green goblin most people will find him a copy of the first.
That would be the case if he was the main villain, but he's not. I'm sure people will be intrigued to see a revamped Goblin (with 5 years of advancement in VFX) as a resurrected villain.
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 07:14 AM
I think more than 4 would be to much.
I was thinking 5 cause this one seems like there will be way more action involved if they have all these characters and the black costume. Five does seem like too much though, i suppose.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:18 AM
I could manage with 5 but id rather it be 4.
I mean that would be like 2 fights with GG2, 2 fights with Sandman and 1 with both.
I dont think GG2 needs to figts
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 07:22 AM
true! it does seem like one too many! i was kind of hoping for a defferent action packed spidey movie, not that the first two were bad or anything. they were great so i wouldnt mind four.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:24 AM
I thought SM 2 wasnt as action packed but It was still good.
I think if the villains combine for the final fight he should have the black suit.
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 07:28 AM
it's funny cause i kind of liked sm2 better. i just hope the black costume looks great on screen. no matter what happens, i trust that raimi will make yet another great spidey movie. i just hope that if venom is in it, they dont make him look retarded.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:29 AM
i hope he isnt coz i think he will only be in it at the end and you shouldnt waste a good villain like that.
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 07:33 AM
i hope he isnt coz i think he will only be in it at the end and you shouldnt waste a good villain like that.
it kind of sucks for me cause i'm torn up between being anxious to see venom on screen and them doing venom justice. i guess patience would be the better of the two and that way they dont waste him just to please the fans.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 07:34 AM
yeah id rather wait 4 years from now to see Venom in all his glory than to see him for 10 mins a year from now.
jimmylace
05-09-2006, 07:51 AM
now that most of the characters are established= more than the previous ones!
GG2 vs Spidey in alley= SM wins
Spidey vs robbers= SM wins
Spidey vs Sandman armoured truck= sandman escapes
Spidey vs Sandman underground subway= sandman wins
Black suit Spidey vs Sandman = spidey wins, sandman retreats
spidey+GG2 vs sandman and venom= spidey wins after being really pummled....
=6 fights...I bet this movies gonna be 2 and 20 at least....:spidey:
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 08:07 AM
^^^
1. Why is everyone saying that he fights him in an alley.
2. i suppose there may be a few encounters with spidey and robbers but im counting main fights.
3. I dont like the idea of sandman escaping id prefer it he wins.
4. good
5. i think with the black suit he should fight both sandman and GG2.
6. I hate the idea of venom fighting with sandman
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 09:19 AM
yeah id rather wait 4 years from now to see Venom in all his glory than to see him for 10 mins a year from now.
I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. GOOD POINT!
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 09:21 AM
yeah i think its for the best
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 09:24 AM
After All,patience Is A Virtue And A Great One If You Want A Great Movie Villan.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 09:27 AM
exactly thats why i look forward to seeing joker
CrashNburn
05-09-2006, 11:10 AM
exactly thats why i look forward to seeing joker
ME TOO!
AnimeJune
05-09-2006, 11:29 AM
I'm looking forward to 3 or 4 main battles.
Now, while I understand the concern raised against team-up battles, I think it could stand to be quite cool if they used the right effects - if they showed the two villains fighting Spidey TOGETHER, working TOGETHER, and not just trying to fight Spidey on their own at the same time - that would look pretty cool.
On the other hand, I don't think HarryGoblin will be a very powerful villain - he'll definitely take a backseat to Sandman. I think he'll mainly be present to be a nuisance to Spidey and an emotional complication for Peter. I mean, Harry is a whiny, none-too-bright, impulsive, showboating drunk in the films. He is not HALF the man his father was - I don't think he'll be at the same threat level as DaddyGoblin.
gamemiester
05-09-2006, 11:32 AM
Agreed
CrashNburn
05-10-2006, 01:19 PM
I Agree Also
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