Deleted Private Messages

[twylight]

I logged on to Hype today to find all of my Private Messages deleted. :confused:
And I know for a fact I did not delete all of them last night.

Is there anyway to get them back and why are they gone?

I had several important PM's concerning the running of the RPG's on Hype.

[Calvin]

If you ask me, this is worse than posting someone's PM on the forum.

[War Lord]

I logged on to Hype today to find all of my Private Messages deleted. :confused:
And I know for a fact I did not delete all of them last night.

Is there anyway to get them back and why are they gone?

I had several important PM's concerning the running of the RPG's on Hype.

I could fill your PM box up with all my love.

[Betsy Braddock]

This isn't funny Jonty.

I seriously had some very important PM's in there concerning the RPG's. They were recent and I hadn't been able to save them yet.

[Slipknot]

Betsy? Yeah... that's pretty bad if a mod/admin went in and deleted your PM's.

[twylight]

This isn't funny Jonty.

I seriously had some very important PM's in there concerning the RPG's. They were recent and I hadn't been able to save them yet.

Yes, that's me I just checked all my accounts and I still have PM's there, so why are mine gone now?


I can only assume it has to do with me forwarding a message to a few of the other Mods. I was then told that I can't forward PM's without both parties being in agreement about it.

But when I checked the FAQ's it just mentioned that the 'Post/s' would be removed so I thought it was just about posting PM's.

I also apologized and said it would never happen again.

[kypade]

It had been said that once a PM is sent and in your box you're allowed to do with it as you please (except post it verbatim in the forums). So, I dunno why that's suddenly a no-no.

[War Lord]

This isn't funny Jonty.

I seriously had some very important PM's in there concerning the RPG's. They were recent and I hadn't been able to save them yet.

I'd be pissed as well, but I'm being perfectly sincere.

Leave me to my whooings.

Twy, can I woo you?

[Calvin]

I so hope it was Morg.

Also, if a mod did this, it raises the issue that mods are probably reading our PRIVATE messages.

[War Lord]

I so hope it was Morg.

Also, if a mod did this, it raises the issue that mods are probably reading our PRIVATE messages.

You should probably delete your musings on child porn, just in case.

[Calvin]

You should probably delete your musings on child porn, just in case.
No. Way.

[Daisy]

Morg doesn't have that power. Only admins do.

"It had been said that once a PM is sent and in your box you're allowed to do with it as you please (except post it verbatim in the forums). So, I dunno why that's suddenly a no-no."

I'm the one who said that, so I could be over-ruled by the Administration. It just seems to me, though, if the rule is that Private Messages are to be that strictly confidential then they ought to remove the "Forward" option.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I so hope it was Morg.

Also, if a mod did this, it raises the issue that mods are probably reading our PRIVATE messages.


We do not have that ability.

[Calvin]

Morg doesn't have that power. Only admins do.

"It had been said that once a PM is sent and in your box you're allowed to do with it as you please (except post it verbatim in the forums). So, I dunno why that's suddenly a no-no."

I'm the one who said that, so I could be over-ruled by the Administration. It just seems to me, though, if the rule is that Private Messages are to be that strictly confidential then they ought to remove the "Forward" option.
Admins also shouldn't be allowed to read them then.

[twylight]

I'd be pissed as well, but I'm being perfectly sincere.

Leave me to my whooings.



The thing is I'm to shocked and hurt to be mad.

I was in the middle of a long PM exchange with a close friend, Morg and I were in what I thought was a good conversation and I thought we were patching up our differences.

The upsetting thing is that I only logged on today because I was going to send an apology to Excel. I had a friend of mine off line read them and they said that while I handled things properly I was a bit to formal and came off as condencending.

If it is about forwarding PM's why was my WHOLE BOX deleted and not just the offending PM?

Also why was it deleted in the first place?


It's obvious that something is going on and I've hit some chord, since I only thought I stirred the pot up for a weekend and that things would settle back down to normal.

By doing this they've only confirmed that I've somehow knocked on the wrong door.


Also Jonty please PM me lots of nice things because I am literally shaking and crying over the fact.

Many of the PM's I had there were from friends I like to talk to and I hadn't yet had the time to save them all.

[Calvin]

We should write another letter, Twy.

[twylight]

Be quiet Calvin.


Don't even try to joke around with me.

This has gone to far, are the Admin trying to force me off this site?
What exactly have I don't that has them so defensive? My PM's to Excel stopped with him, not me and they stopped a day ago.

Why delete them now?

They were deleted before 11:07 AM this morning because I have a message from LarryLegend dated that time in My PM box.

Also thank you to the Mods that did PM me. :)

[Lightning Strykez!]

Uh, before we start assigning alterior motives to the Administration (or anyone else) I think it would be wise to wait until an technical investigation is made on your account Twy.

I say this because it could very well be a system glitch--we all know the site suffers from it from time to time. For example, a couple of weeks ago I couldn't load any of my avatars here. And my PM box at Xverse (another Vbulletin site) says I have 2 unread messages, but it's false. So let's take the mature route, turn your case into the admins so they can check it out, and be patient.

[Calvin]

I was serious.

[twylight]

Uh, before we start assigning alterior motives to the Administration (or anyone else) I think it would be wise until an technical investigation is made on your account Twy.

It could very well be a system glitch--we all know the site suffers from it from time to time. A couple of weeks ago I couldn't load any of my avatars here. And my PM box at Xverse (another Vbulletin site) says I have 2 unread messages, but it's false. So let's take the mature route, turn your case into the admins so they can check it out, and be patient.

I'd believe that, except that all 178 of my messages, sent, unsent and receipts are gone.

Very well, I'll be mature and not blame anyone but I can't get an e-mail through.



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Obviously the Admin's read the e-mail.

[War Lord]

Uh, before we start assigning alterior motives to the Administration (or anyone else) I think it would be wise until an technical investigation is made on your account Twy.

It could very well be a system glitch--we all know the site suffers from it from time to time. A couple of weeks ago I couldn't load any of my avatars here. And my PM box at Xverse (another Vbulletin site) says I have 2 unread messages, but it's false. So let's take the mature route, turn your case into the admins so they can check it out, and be patient.

That's the most likely and unfortunate explanation.

[Calvin]

That's the most likely and unfortunate explanation.
I know, but it's no fun.

[kypade]

Morg doesn't have that power. Only admins do.

"It had been said that once a PM is sent and in your box you're allowed to do with it as you please (except post it verbatim in the forums). So, I dunno why that's suddenly a no-no."

I'm the one who said that, so I could be over-ruled by the Administration. It just seems to me, though, if the rule is that Private Messages are to be that strictly confidential then they ought to remove the "Forward" option.
I thought it was you and pretty recent, but din't wanna call ya out. But still, you're right, it's pretty much common sense. Once sent they're your private messages, right. Why can't you make em private to someone else? It's not putting them out publically as posting would be. But yeah, I guess you're also right that it's Mirko's rules. don't want your PMs deleted? Go somewhere else.

[Daisy]

I thought it was you and pretty recent, but din't wanna call ya out. But still, you're right, it's pretty much common sense. Once sent they're your private messages, right. Why can't you make em private to someone else? It's not putting them out publically as posting would be. But yeah, I guess you're also right that it's Mirko's rules. don't want your PMs deleted? Go somewhere else.

That's okay, but thanks for the consideration.

What I said was that before the annoucement here at the Hype! that the 'private' in private messages was meant to mean a degree of confidentiality (i.e. no posting in public), I interpreted the 'private' in 'private messages' to mean that it allowed you maintain your privacy (i.e. you didn't have to give out your personal e-mail address to communicate personally with someone on the boards). I had always considered private messages like e-mail, that once the other person had them, the messages were pretty much theirs to do with as they please - which could include anything from forwarding it to a friend to hosting the message on a website (and everything in between), so you shouldn't put anything in a PM that you don't want made public unless you REALLY trust the person not to do so.

I never extrapolated the Hype! rule that you couldn't post PMs to mean that PMs were strict confidential documents, the content of which could be shared with no one. Heck, I've forwarded PMs to others myself.

[Superhero Hype!]

I certainly didn't delete them.

[War Lord]

I certainly didn't delete them.

Now, who possibly can verify this?

[Lackey]

It was EXCELSIOR. :(

[twylight]

Down boys. :rolleyes:


Is there anyway to find out what exactly glitched to cause this?
And why it was only me? :confused:

[Themanofbat]

Uh, before we start assigning alterior motives to the Administration (or anyone else) I think it would be wise to wait until an technical investigation is made on your account Twy.

I say this because it could very well be a system glitch--we all know the site suffers from it from time to time. For example, a couple of weeks ago I couldn't load any of my avatars here. And my PM box at Xverse (another Vbulletin site) says I have 2 unread messages, but it's false. So let's take the mature route, turn your case into the admins so they can check it out, and be patient.

The last time a "glitch" occured to me, Elijya thought it was really damned coincidental to be a "glitch".

:D :D :D

:(

[War Lord]

Down boys. :rolleyes:


Is there anyway to find out what exactly glitched to cause this?
And why it was only me? :confused:

I repeatedly ask myself this question over many things.

[Themanofbat]

Down boys. :rolleyes:


Is there anyway to find out what exactly glitched to cause this?
And why it was only me? :confused:

Did you get the PM I sent you???

:(

[twylight]

Did you get the PM I sent you???

:(

Anything sent before 11:00 AM PST I did not recieve.

I've been asking people to resend me things..so if you still have it in your sent box resend it please. :)

[Lackey]

I only said what everyone else was thinking.

Besides, he gots motive and means and he was on the boards during the time in question... if I were a cop, I'd bring him in for questioning. :o

[twylight]

So would I, but if I accuse too much they won't listen at all.

Dew, Daisy and C. Lee have been very kind during all this and I don't want to make them angry. :(


Now I just have to decide if it's still worth writting Excel an apology. :( Everytime I go into my PM box I'm reminded of all the friends PM's I had in there. :(

[Lackey]

So would I, but if I accuse too much they won't listen at all.

Dew, Daisy and C. Lee have been very kind during all this and I don't want to make them angry. :(


Now I just have to decide if it's still worth writting Excel an apology. :( Everytime I go into my PM box I'm reminded of all the friends PM's I had in there. :(


If I felt I had something to apologize for, then I would still do it.

[twylight]

:(

Why do you always have to be so right?

[Holly Goodhead]

Dont worry twy. I had some of them you sent me. Theyre safe now. :o

[Da Docta]

I just bombarded you with PMs. :O

[Lackey]

Calivn's right, twylight needs some booze

[Corinthian™]

I certainly didn't delete them.
Liar! I saw you while you did it. You were laughing and playing with your hair, red as the devil:mad:

[Dew k. Mosi]

11:00 am? Well that's the proof it wasn't me then. I don't get up before 12:30 if I can help it

[Iceman]

11:00 am? Well that's the proof it wasn't me then. I don't get up before 12:30 if I can help it

But you have been known to party and stay up past 11:00 am :O

[Calvin]

Daisy, it wasn't me.

[Lackey]

someone delete Calvin's PMs :mad:

[kypade]

Yknow, I've been inside other users here, and for some reason it never occured to me to mess with their stuff. Hm.

[Dew k. Mosi]

But you have been known to party and stay up past 11:00 am :ONaw, I go to bed at 4:30 am or so. My aunt gets up at 5 am, and I feel weird if I go to bed after she has gotten up...I dunno why

[Themanofbat]

Naw, I go to bed at 4:30 am or so. My aunt gets up at 5 am, and I feel weird if I go to bed after she has gotten up...I dunno why

It's called "respect" for your grown-ups. :up:

:)

[Iceman]

Naw, I go to bed at 4:30 am or so. My aunt gets up at 5 am, and I feel weird if I go to bed after she has gotten up...I dunno why

You could always put something in her tea...

[Lackey]

so... EXCELSIOR was on last night and this morning and still no post from him.

[Calvin]

Guilty.

[twylight]

Meh...If it's not a glitch they're probably using Calvin having my password as an explination.

But I would have noticed it it had been Calvin and I wouldn't have made a thread. My log-in time was normal meaning that the last time I'd logged in was the last time I had logged in. I did check. If it hadn't been I would have known it was Calvin and I wouldn't have made a big deal about it.


Either way, let's just let it go. ;)

[Calvin]

Meh...If it's not a glitch they're probably using Calvin having my password as an explination.

But I would have noticed it it had been Calvin and I wouldn't have made a thread. My log-in time was normal meaning that the last time I'd logged in was the last time I had logged in. I did check. If it hadn't been I would have known it was Calvin and I wouldn't have made a big deal about it.


Either way, let's just let it go. ;)
Seriously, it wasn't me. I've never deleted Fuzz's PMs. If it were me, do you really think I wouldn't take credit for it and laugh about it?

[twylight]

I doubt you would be so thorough in deleteing all my saved ones as well. :o

I have so little faith in you doing a clean job. :down

Let it go.

[Calvin]

Um, you brought my name up just then. And I've gotten a couple IMs saying "haha, did you really delete Twy's PMs??"

I'm not sure how this turned into the crime of the century, but seriously, I would never care enough to do something like that. I wouldn't, and didn't, even look at your PMs.

[kypade]

She spent that whole post explaining how they would probably use that as an excuse but she knows that's not the case because if you had logged in after her she would have noticed "hey, someone was using my name at 4 AM, I guess that's why my PMs are gone".

[Calvin]

She spent that whole post explaining how they would probably use that as an excuse but she knows that's not the case because if you had logged in after her she would have noticed "hey, someone was using my name at 4 AM, I guess that's why my PMs are gone".
It was partially an answer to the people that have been IMing me about it.

[user123456789]

Calvin, why do you have twy's pass?

Twy, why does Calvin has your pass?

[Calvin]

We're the same poster. I thought everyone had caught on by now.

[twylight]

She spent that whole post explaining how they would probably use that as an excuse but she knows that's not the case because if you had logged in after her she would have noticed "hey, someone was using my name at 4 AM, I guess that's why my PMs are gone".

Exactly. :up:

Now let it drop. :p

It's not worth it and besides, I've got lots of new PM's and most of my others of importance were restored by friends who resent them.

[user123456789]

We're the same poster. I thought everyone had caught on by now.

This is earth-shattering information.

[Calvin]

This is earth-shattering information.
Not really, it's been pretty common knowledge for a while. Twylight is just a character I do.

[Lackey]

This is earth-shattering information.


a lot of the top posters are the same people... you don't think one message board could have that many awesome people, do you?

[Lackey]

I don't know why EXCELSIOR would think deleting her PMs would solve anything... there's too many of us that have copies, he can't track us all down. :)

[twylight]

I don't know why EXCELSIOR would think deleting her PMs would solve anything... there's too many of us that have copies, he can't track us all down. :)


Actually I sent them to other Moderators so I have some witnesses on both sides. Also it might have been a glitch.

But seriously..this thread has run it's course. Now, ya'll can let it die like an old soldier or I can ask a Mod to close it. :o

[Calvin]

Actually I sent them to other Moderators so I have some witnesses on both sides.

But seriously..this thread has run it's course. Now, ya'll can let it die like an old soldier or I can ask a Mod to close it.

[LarryLegend]

Actually I sent them to other Moderators so I have some witnesses on both sides.

But seriously..this thread has run it's course. Now, ya'll can let it die like an old soldier or I can ask a Mod to close it.

Psst Calvin, both of your alter egos are saying the same thing. Time to check which character you're positng under. ;)

[twylight]

Oops!

[LarryLegend]

Close it? But then what would people ***** about?

[Calvin]

I'll think of something. Or Twy will. Nyuk nyuk.

[Lackey]

Yeah, I think it could've been a glitch.

[kypade]

By GLITCH he means that EXCELSIOR did it. :)

[Darthphere]

Yeah, I think it could've been a glitch.


Awesome edit.

[Morg]

I think this thread has been debated enough, closed