Sticky hands, sticky feet.

[Mister Gone]

I would really like to see them demonstrate that Spidey can actually cling to a surface with any part of his body. I'd love to see him stuck to a wall fighting with both hands and both legs, that would be a really cool way to have him defend against multiple villains, or a villain with multiple limbs (I.E. Sandman going nuts.)




P.S. I pedict that this thread turns dirty way too fast :(

[Sean Adisano]

hmmmmm, i could say something that would go along with your "p.s" statement, but i won't...but what your saying is something i too would like to see.

[Spider-Man™]

I agree.

[SpiderB]

Call me crazy, but I never liked the idea that Spidey could cling with any part of his body. It makes him seem less like a spider and more like one of those gel toys you get out of the prize machines at Walmart. Ya know, the ones you throw against the wall and they stick? Well anyway... I mean, real spiders can't cling like that, so why should Spider-Man be able to? I say keep it localized to his hands and feet. It's more believable and it gives more of a sense of limitation to his powers.

[Saint]

In the movie continuity, he can probably only cling with his hands and feet. What I'd like is for them to explain how the little hairs work with his gloves on.

[LordSimen]

In the movie continuity, he can probably only cling with his hands and feet. What I'd like is for them to explain how the little hairs work with his gloves on.


That's one the questions everyone wants to avoid trying to answer. :up:

[Spidey-Sean]

Porous gloves? The barbs on his hairs also seem sharp enough to stick through.

And I don't want them to show spidey sticking to walls with his elbows or anything like that, and I don't think they will.

[Spider - Man]

Call me crazy, but I never liked the idea that Spidey could cling with any part of his body. It makes him seem less like a spider and more like one of those gel toys you get out of the prize machines at Walmart. Ya know, the ones you throw against the wall and they stick? Well anyway... I mean, real spiders can't cling like that, so why should Spider-Man be able to? I say keep it localized to his hands and feet. It's more believable and it gives more of a sense of limitation to his powers.

My sentiments exactly! Plus I think it would look silly!

[Frenzy]

I'd like to see him show MJ how he does it while he's just got his shorts and a t-shirt on - that would be cool to see if he did it really easily and she was like 'wow' :)

[Odin's Lapdog]

I would really like to see them demonstrate that Spidey can actually cling to a surface with any part of his body. I'd love to see him stuck to a wall fighting with both hands and both legs, that would be a really cool way to have him defend against multiple villains, or a villain with multiple limbs (I.E. Sandman going nuts.)




P.S. I pedict that this thread turns dirty way too fast :(
the only time i think would be best suited for showing he can stick with all his body was if he was to stick to a ceiling upside down inthe crossed feet position as if he's comtemplating something.

i think in a battle situation, removing yourself from the danger zone is a better idea than constant parrying.

[CrashNburn]

the only time i think would be best suited for showing he can stick with all his body was if he was to stick to a ceiling upside down inthe crossed feet position as if he's comtemplating something.

i think in a battle situation, removing yourself from the danger zone is a better idea than constant parrying.

:) YEP!

[faceplant]

In the movie continuity, he can probably only cling with his hands and feet. What I'd like is for them to explain how the little hairs work with his gloves on.

the cardinal rule of watching a movie is to suspend your disbeilief, sometimes you just have to let things go and not dwell on them to enjoy it.

[Sean Adisano]

^ exactly...after all this is a movie based on a comic.

[SpiderB]

Yeah that's one of those little things you just accept. If you want to get technical, the comics explained that the fabric of his costume was thin enough that it didn't interfere with his powers. But of course they didn't use the "microscopic barbs" explanation in the comics. I imagaine the barbs on his hands just poke through his gloves (hey if they can dig into concrete walls, they shouldn't have a problem going through spandex), and he simply uses his feet as support. Then again... I think we've seen him sticking with just his feet before too...so I guess the mystery is still up in the air.

[Sean Adisano]

Yeah that's one of those little things you just accept. If you want to get technical, the comics explained that the fabric of his costume was thin enough that it didn't interfere with his powers. But of course they didn't use the "microscopic barbs" explanation in the comics. I imagaine the barbs on his hands just poke through his gloves (hey if they can dig into concrete walls, they shouldn't have a problem going through spandex), and he simply uses his feet as support. Then again... I think we've seen him sticking with just his feet before too...so I guess the mystery is still up in the air.

yea he has stuck with just his feet. i just accept the fact the the hairs are just so strong and super sticky, that they go through the thin fabric gloves, and the souls of the shows, which aren't probably too thick, but i accept it...questioning it only ruins it for yourself.

[Spider - Man]

Yeah that's one of those little things you just accept. If you want to get technical, the comics explained that the fabric of his costume was thin enough that it didn't interfere with his powers. But of course they didn't use the "microscopic barbs" explanation in the comics. I imagaine the barbs on his hands just poke through his gloves (hey if they can dig into concrete walls, they shouldn't have a problem going through spandex), and he simply uses his feet as support. Then again... I think we've seen him sticking with just his feet before too...so I guess the mystery is still up in the air.

I grew up on the Ross Andru Spidey issues and it always bothered me when he drew Spidey running up a building using only his feet, even SIDEWAYS sometimes. Even at 10 years old, I'd think to myself that gravity just wouldn't allow that. I remember when the first film came out and I saw the clip where the big whatever-it-is is about to fall on the kid at the World Unity Festival and it shows Spidey running along the wall, how relieved I was when I saw the full scene that revealed he actually fired a webline first.

As far as the gloves and boots, in the comics, the fabric (even on the boots) was supposed to be so thin that his 'sticking' powers worked even thru it. Inthe movies, the boots are obviously too think so you just have to believe that he climbs using his hands and just uses his feet for leverage. Or suspend you disbelief!

[Jubba]

in the first movie when he is in the wrestling ring and first jumps up on to the bars to escape bonesaw, isn't he holding himself up with his feet? i would also think the feet helped him stick to the train to do those matrix moves when fighting doc oc but maybe i need to watch the movies again...

[Wushuboy]

i wish they'd show a shot of spidey clinging upside down on the ceiling above an unsuspecting thug while the camera looks upwards. Thats a shot they should really do cuz that's classic spidey. And more wallcrawling damnit!

[Sean Adisano]

in the first movie when he is in the wrestling ring and first jumps up on to the bars to escape bonesaw, isn't he holding himself up with his feet? i would also think the feet helped him stick to the train to do those matrix moves when fighting doc oc but maybe i need to watch the movies again...

no, his feet definitely stick.

[Jubba]

for all we know, he could be coating his costume with a thin layer of fluid from his web shooting hands...also, he may be secreting stickiness from his pores which would saturatue his suit and make him super sticky-man
gross
maybe they'll use my ideas! hire me sony! seriously.

[black_dust]

no, his feet definitely stick.
Yuppers, who knows how though :O must have stepped on gum or somthing

[Sean Adisano]

Yuppers, who knows how though :O must have stepped on gum or somthing

it would make no sense for his feet not to be able to stick. but remember spidey 2 in the bank scene, when spidey jumps on the wall and goes to shoot a web at ock, and his web fails on him. he say's "oh, come on" and he switches from one hand to the other. while switching both hands are off the wall and the feet are attached holding him on the wall.

[black_dust]

it would make no sense for his feet not to be able to stick. but remember spidey 2 in the bank scene, when spidey jumps on the wall and goes to shoot a web at ock, and his web fails on him. he say's "oh, come on" and he switches from one hand to the other. while switching both hands are off the wall and the feet are attached holding him on the wall.
You could say his feet were working after he wakes up when he got bit, because he came down stairs and walked across the wall, aint no way you could do that normaly. and if i were Aurnt may i would have kicked his ass for that, walking across the wallpaper!

[Sean Adisano]

You could say his feet were working after he wakes up when he got bit, because he came down stairs and walked across the wall, aint no way you could do that normaly. and if i were Aurnt may i would have kicked his ass for that, walking across the wallpaper!

LOL! very true :)

[Frenzy]

:) Raimi has done a great job IMO to make sure Spidey has a hand or foot always touching a surface - I think it makes more sense for only his hands and feet to stick :)

[Sean Adisano]

:) Raimi has done a great job IMO to make sure Spidey has a hand or foot always touching a surface - I think it makes more sense for only his hands and feet to stick :)

me too when i think about...Frenzy is the man everyone...HE ROCKS!

i'll fight and kill anyone who say's or thinks otherwise :mad:

[faceplant]

I could turn this thread really dirty....but i won't...because i'm a classy individual......actually i just don't want to get banned.

[Sean Adisano]

I could turn this thread really dirty....but i won't...because i'm a classy individual......actually i just don't want to get banned.

yea like i did :( the month of april was my own personal Dark Ages.

[AnimeJune]

In the movie continuity, he can probably only cling with his hands and feet. What I'd like is for them to explain how the little hairs work with his gloves on.Good point.
Anyhoo - spiders aren't sticky all over, either - only their feet, so it makes sense that it would be the same for Spider-Man. Plus, without his limbs, what would be sticking to the wall? His bum? That would have to mean his bum would be covered with spiny hairs. And I don't know about Mary Jane, but I would NOT find that attractive, in the least. :down

I like to wonder how he can turn his stickiness on and off - I've noticed that he's never had an American Pie 2-esque moment where he has to call the hospital and say "Yeah, I accidently glued myself to...myself."

[Sean Adisano]

Good point.
Anyhoo - spiders aren't sticky all over, either - only their feet, so it makes sense that it would be the same for Spider-Man. Plus, without his limbs, what would be sticking to the wall? His bum? That would have to mean his bum would be covered with spiny hairs. And I don't know about Mary Jane, but I would NOT find that attractive, in the least. :down

I like to wonder how he can turn his stickiness on and off - I've noticed that he's never had an American Pie 2-esque moment where he has to call the hospital and say "Yeah, I accidently glued myself to...myself."

well he learned how to control it i guess...remember spidey 1 when he was chasing after the bus and slap his hand on it and he stuck to the poster and teared it off, and he couldn't get it off...then the spoon or fork that stuck to his hand during lunch, right before he discovered his web...once he figured it out, he could control it, just like he could control his web shooting.

[faceplant]

You can't be picky about little details like this, after all, the movie is based on a kid who got bit by a spider and combined dna with it....cause that can really happen (sarcasm of course)

[faceplant]

yea like i did :( the month of april was my own personal Dark Ages.

yeah man, we missed you, were you just not allowed to post or look at the boards at all?

[CrashNburn]

You can't be picky about little details like this, after all, the movie is based on a kid who got bit by a spider and combined dna with it....cause that can really happen (sarcasm of course)
I'M WITH YOU ON THIS ONE!

[Nebins]

In the comics can't he stick with his back too? I wouldn't mind seeing that at all. It could be cool if he was just chilling on the side of a building.

[LobokDaikon]

I grew up on the Ross Andru Spidey issues and it always bothered me when he drew Spidey running up a building using only his feet, even SIDEWAYS sometimes. Even at 10 years old, I'd think to myself that gravity just wouldn't allow that. I remember when the first film came out and I saw the clip where the big whatever-it-is is about to fall on the kid at the World Unity Festival and it shows Spidey running along the wall, how relieved I was when I saw the full scene that revealed he actually fired a webline first.

It could work with his strength. The guy can lift ten tons, so his ankles should be able to support his body weight.

[CrashNburn]

In the comics can't he stick with his back too? I wouldn't mind seeing that at all. It could be cool if he was just chilling on the side of a building.
That would be pretty cool!

[Sean Adisano]

yeah man, we missed you, were you just not allowed to post or look at the boards at all?

just couldn't post, i could still come on though...

[Sean Adisano]

You can't be picky about little details like this, after all, the movie is based on a kid who got bit by a spider and combined dna with it....cause that can really happen (sarcasm of course)

are you sure it can't happen ;)

i know, i said it before that its a movie based on a comic, but i feel like i have to defend spidey in ALL things :D

[faceplant]

are you sure it can't happen ;)

i know, i said it before that its a movie based on a comic, but i feel like i have to defend spidey in ALL things :D

Don't get me wrong, everytime i get bit by a spider (which hasn't been too many times) I'm always excited that the next morning i'll wake up and be spider-man.

[Sean Adisano]

here's some irony for you...Spider-Man is my favorite hero, but i have a phobia of spiders.

the thing i hate and fear the most in the world is also the thing i love the most in the world...i am a sad, screwed up person :(

[AnimeJune]

You can't be picky about little details like this, after all, the movie is based on a kid who got bit by a spider and combined dna with it....cause that can really happen (sarcasm of course)Well yes, but the thing that makes excellent science fiction or fantasy, rather than just average sf or fantasy, is the CONSISTANCY of the magic/technology that's used in the story.

For instance, if you give a superhero powers, they have to have limitations, there have to be things that can thwart them.

[SpiderB]

Well yes, but the thing that makes excellent science fiction or fantasy, rather than just average sf or fantasy, is the CONSISTANCY of the magic/technology that's used in the story.

For instance, if you give a superhero powers, they have to have limitations, there have to be things that can thwart them.

^Exactly. It may be fantasy, but there has to be a sense of realism and integrity to the fantasy.

[Mister Gone]

I think a better example is when he is on the front of the train in Spider Man 2 and tries to stop it with webs and it pulls loose and he falls forward. His feet have him stuck to the front of the train as he watches the rails fly by.

[faceplant]

Well yes, but the thing that makes excellent science fiction or fantasy, rather than just average sf or fantasy, is the CONSISTANCY of the magic/technology that's used in the story.

For instance, if you give a superhero powers, they have to have limitations, there have to be things that can thwart them.

I agree and understand that the movies have to have consistency, but nobody's perfect and if you want a scene done a certain way you have to bend the rules a bit.

[faceplant]

^you make a good point though.

[Spiderpig]

2 pages in and things remain relatively civil...

Keep it up guys :up:

[sag002]

He wouldnt need to stick to a wall with his back. He's agile enough that he can fight by switching body positions. *Throws 2 pennies down*

[SouLeSS]

I've never seen a spider cling to the wall on it's back. On anything other than it's appendages actually, now that I think of it...Which is what Spiderman does. No reason to change it.

[Nebins]

I've never seen a spider cling to the wall on it's back. On anything other than it's appendages actually, now that I think of it...Which is what Spiderman does. No reason to change it.

I've never seen a spider shoot webs from it's hands. So we're not really going to get Peter Parker as a spider personified. If they are taking such liberties as that then why not make the rest of his body stick? It's not like anybody is going to say "Spiders can't do that!"

[AnimeJune]

I've never seen a spider shoot webs from it's hands. So we're not really going to get Peter Parker as a spider personified. If they are taking such liberties as that then why not make the rest of his body stick? It's not like anybody is going to say "Spiders can't do that!"I wouldn't want him to have those powers, because it means his whole body would have to be spiny-hairy! Gross! And redundant - he doesn't need much more than his hands and feet, and we should place limitations on his powers.

[Mister Gone]

I wouldn't want him to have those powers, because it means his whole body would have to be spiny-hairy! Gross! And redundant - he doesn't need much more than his hands and feet, and we should place limitations on his powers.

Why

[AnimeJune]

WhyBecause consistancy drives drama, Mister Gone. Look at Superman: very few limitations to his powers. Look how boring that is! Spider-Man needs limitations because that's what fuels the story. If he can do everything, what could possibly CHALLENGE him? What could possibly inspire him to greater things?

[Mister Gone]

But why place limitations that the comic never put on him. They gave him that stupid new suit and powers and that made him less likeable. I think it would be nice to show that he hasn't realized is full potential yet. If they have to limit him to strictly organics, then they should keep all him original powers.

"Wall-Crawling"
Spider-Man gained the ability to adhere to a surface using any part of his body - although if the surface is particularly greasy, he can't stick. His ability to stick to objects is strictly conscious though - i.e., he cannot stick to something by accident. In addition, if he chooses to not release himself from an object he is sticking to, nothing can remove him. His arms would rip off first or the wall would break before his hands let go. The same goes for any part of his body.


That was for the icky he's got barbs all over comment earlier :) they retract on command