Official X-MEN: LEGACY Discussion Thread

[Colossal Spoons]

I want some Sunspot, myself.

I need Sunspot, Magma, Angel, and Husk in a book. We could just get rid of....Karima, Lady Mastermind, Sabertooth, and Mystique

Hell, Storm is my second favorite X-Man, but I can at least make a post on the X Forum that doesn't bring Storm or Ororo into it.

Same goes for Kurt and Scott. I just had to call her out on that. She's entitled to love Gambit, but he always seems to come into her posts. Always. And it just buggeth me. It'd be the same if she was in love with Emma Frost or Cable or whoever. Felt, I needed to be justified in my calling out, before someone said ''But Bill, you've been pretty vocal about your distaste for all things Gambit!"

-rant over-

Gambit and Storm fans are part of the reason why I don't miss them in the X-books.

[JustABill]

Magma :up:
Husk :up:
Angel :up:

[usagicassidy]

I'm basically chiming in just to say that I agree with Colossal Spoons and JustABill

[squeekness]

It would be nice to see Angel again. He was just getting interesting again. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Magma :up:
Husk :up:
Angel :up:

Haha, no love for Roberto.

[Mike059jig]

I like this issue Lady Mastermind is growing on me.....
What does Sabes know about her......The art was ok until lady let out Mummuradi and then every was so hard to read....
Since when did X-men use the Conquistador as a substitute for the X-jet

[Snikt 6]

I like this issue Lady Mastermind is growing on me.....
What does Sabes know about her......The art was ok until lady let out Mummuradi and then every was so hard to read....
Since when did X-men use the Conquistador as a substitute for the X-jet

I thought #197 was great. I am SO glad Bachalo is back!!!!!!!!!!

I liked the whole "Mummuradi" thing, pretty cool and should be a good arc. I am sure Sabertooth smelled the Mummuradi in Lady Mastermind.

I thought the art scenes with the Mummuradi was cool.....

I liked the scene with Bobby and Mystique...I think she wants Iceman to get close to Rogue, she sees that Rouge needs someone with heart, and hey, Bobby has heart.

I had no idea Cable was the "ruler" of Providence. Kinda cool.

Seeing Rouge just lying there was kinda tough, I wonder what Carey has planted for her.

This was just a fun X-Men comic to read! 5 X's from yours truly. :xmen:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Gambit and Storm fans are part of the reason why I don't miss them in the X-books.

:woot: :woot: :woot:

[Hotaru]

I must say that #197 was fantastic. I don't miss Rogue at all in this issue. Glad to see Mastermind taking the matter in her hands, not defying it. Can't wait to see where Carey is aiming with this arc. :)

[@JeanGrey]

I must say that #197 was fantastic. I don't miss Rogue at all in this issue. Glad to see Mastermind taking the matter in her hands, not defying it. Can't wait to see where Carey is aiming with this arc. :)

Well i think this is what makes Carey a good writer, he succeeds in keeping the readers interested in the book + he can make an arc by using only some of the characters, not ALL of them or one of them in particular.

Snikt_6, i also think that Sabs caught the smell of Mummundrai in lady M in previous issue and I think that Cable is the one who will deal with it, i think it is what Carey has said in one of his interviews

I also agree with JustABill about his remark. It is getting tiring to read the same and the same on someone posts or about the same character. We know that Carey in his latest interview implied he will involve Gambit in next issues, but this thread is about the book of Adjectiveless X-Men, not for any certain character, so let's talk about the book or at least about he chars that are currently involved in the arc. If we wanna talk more about our favorites, let's do it in their "personal" threads.

[Colossal Spoons]

I had no idea Cable was the "ruler" of Providence. Kinda cool.

Yeah, the idea of Providence is awesome. He is/was also ruler of a country called Rumekistan Sp*. It was neighbor to Latveria.

[AndThePickles]

I need Sunspot, Magma, Angel, and Husk in a book. We could just get rid of....Karima, Lady Mastermind, Sabertooth, and Mystique


That would be lovely :up:

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I'm actually a fan of Raven, and only one of the reasons' because she's blue.

[javon]

Is everything always about Gambit with you?

Now granted I loveee my fav characters, but at least I realize there are other characters who need attention. I've not seen one post by you that doesn't have the G word in it.
Originally posted by Colossal Spoons
Gambit, Iceman, and Storm have those kinds of fans around here.
:huh: :huh: :huh: Whats wrong with with her liking the fact that Carey thinks that Gambit is cool? And @Jean Grey you act like someone can't be happy for their favorite character. Who gives a flying fart that it's for tons of X-men? Their has been numerous mentioning of people saying what they liked. I swear, some people just overexaggerate things is the most annoying way.:whatever:

[Colossal Spoons]

Right, but Storm, Iceman, and Gambit fans are notorious for taking it overboard.

[ProfeZZor X]

^ I do? ... Well, I do tend to fight to the death with Iceman issues... hehe.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Right, but Storm, Iceman, and Gambit fans are notorious for taking it overboard.

You don't bloody say. :woot: :woot: :woot:

[gothicFLAVOURS]

This last issue was pretty great. I loved the art (I can't even believe I'm saying this with Bachalo doing it lol, but it's so much better than Ramos) except those parts with the mummudrai, I couldn't get what was happening there. I really like Providence and I hope we see Hecatomb soon.

[javon]

^Mind giving me some insight on the latest issue? I don't read the X-men run but I'd like to start getting into it, so I can be caught up by issue 200.
You don't bloody say. :woot: :woot: :woot:
Everyone saw the 3 "woot" signs the first time ya know?:whatever: PATHETIC

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

^Mind giving me some insight on the latest issue? I don't read the X-men run but I'd like to start getting into it, so I can be caught up by issue 200.

Everyone saw the 3 "woot" signs the first time ya know?:whatever: PATHETIC

And yet I'm not the one throwing a hissy fit whenever there's some Cyke bashing. :woot: :woot: :woot:

And yes, those three woot signs were just there to reiterate how much I love you.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

...

[Rogue's Hand]

Yay Rogue!!!!
I can't wait for that 88 strain to kick in :woot:

[emmymae]

Is everything always about Gambit with you?

Now granted I loveee my fav characters, but at least I realize there are other characters who need attention. I've not seen one post by you that doesn't have the G word in it.

The only characters I really care about are Gambit and Rogue, and sometimes Psylocke. That's the reason I read the comics. Yes, it always is about Gambit and Rogue with me and you will see the same from me in the future. I don't intend to change. Lol:oldrazz::oldrazz::oldrazz::oldrazz:

[Colossal Spoons]

NO other mutants interest you? This is the kind of stuff that just blows my mind.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

That kind of stuff urks me.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

NO other mutants interest you? This is the kind of stuff that just blows my mind.

You should Rogue fans to that list of yours detailing those going overboard. :woot:

[Colossal Spoons]

Well Rogue fans are usually Gambit fans lol. 2x the annoyance...yay. :dry:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well Rogue fans are usually Gambit fans lol. 2x the annoyance...yay. :dry:

More like double the urge to put a cigarette out with my eye. :woot:

Annoyance just isn't strong enough a word.

[04nbod]

Well Rogue fans are usually Gambit fans lol. 2x the annoyance...yay. :dry:

i guess i'm the exception to the rule:woot:

[Colossal Spoons]

i guess i'm the exception to the rule:woot:

You're not quite as obsessed as some others around these parts. There's still hope for you :D

[Colossal Spoons]

More like double the urge to put a cigarette out with my eye. :woot:

Annoyance just isn't strong enough a word.

I.....actually....miss Wolverine fanboys

I never thought I'd EVER say that :ninja:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I.....actually....miss Wolverine fanboys

MOST F***ED UP QUOTE OF THE YEAR.

Hands down. And yeah, I know we're not even past march. :woot:

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

:eek: Nah, Wolverine and his fanboys(girls) are pretty kool from what I've seen.

[Colossal Spoons]

They're behaving right now, that's why. Wait until the next time he heals back from some ridiculous injury and/or saves the day.

[04nbod]

They're behaving right now, that's why. Wait until the next time he heals back from some ridiculous injury and/or saves the day.

I wonder what the fallout would be from killing him off?Other then marvel losing the lead in a ridiculous number of books

[emmymae]

If they killed Wolverine off, the X-Men would be toast.

My dear Spoons, I find some interest in most of the main team members of the X-Men, but Gambit and Rogue have my heart and without them, I wouldn't be the strong X-fan that I am.

I'm a two-character person, I have to confess no matter how much that irks people. It's best to be honest. I've always been too busy to be strongly involved with more than two characters. My life can't revolve around the comics. Sorry for being annoying, I never intended to be. My two favs have always taken on a life outside the comics to be two of my favorite characters ever. I can relate to them better than the other characters. I find them the most real to me and the most accessible.

I stopped reading the comics 11 years ago because it's all I ever thought about and I thought that it was childish and immature to read them. I made myself stay away, but recently I realized through the X-films and the like that it wasn't, and I came back. And I saw this board, and I thought it would be great to share my comic love with other people.

I'm clueless about a lot of things in the comics and will forever be, and will never stop talking about Romy. I'm not a diehard fan and I don't have the X-mansion's address memorized. I don't mean to annoy or anger anyone. I'm here for the party and I like what I like. People can talk about whatever they want as long as it's appropriate and ethical. I don't care if someone gushes about Storm or Wolverine or Havok or Karima Shapandar. I'm free to discuss any character you want. So what if Gambit and/or Rogue will be mentioned in the post? It's my right and yours as well.

Laissez-faire as my favorite Cajun would say. Excuse the long post.:heart:

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

"if they killied off wolverine, the X-men would be toast."

You see, right there, beliefs like that is what annoys me.

[Snikt 6]

I.....actually....miss Wolverine fanboys

I never thought I'd EVER say that :ninja:

Holla back!:wolverine

[Snikt 6]

"if they killied off wolverine, the X-men would be toast."

You see, right there, beliefs like that is what annoys me.

Why, does the truth hurt? :xmen:

I feel they would not be where they are at without Logan, he gives them the edge. That is what they are trying to give the New Avengers. The X-Men are just amazing characters. It all depends on the writers - look what Austin did.....blah. He had access to the whole team and blew it. Look at what Carey is doing - yeah, Logan was a cameo in the first arc, but the team stands on its own because of the writer.

Bottom line - Wolverine is critical to the X-Men, in alot of ways he is what all the X writers want all the X-Men to be - solid solo characters. Would they survive without him? Of course they would, they are the X-Men! But they would never be the same. Snikt out.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

The things about comics, or any story for that matter, is that no one should be safe. If this character or that character can never die, or be put in real danger, the stories, and/or the character, is moot.

No one should be safe. We already know Logan will never die. We alreadly know spider-man will never die (and it's not only because of his powers), and this is why I like these characters a lot less then other characters. I'm a writer to be(I swear this is my favorite line.:o), and knowing that, I know that I will have to be able to put a character, any character, in the ground if a story calls for it.

DC killed superboy, and I would've given them mad props for taking it there if they had not pussed out on killing Nightwing, which was to happen in that same storyline. I'm tired of them and their cashcows. No ****ing character, mostly a main, should have that feeling of safeness.

To repeat, you can't write a story where we're our hearts are supposed to race in fear that a character (our character) will die when we know they're gonna be int the next issue. Marvel has done one thing right in this degree, they Killed Captain America.

[gothicFLAVOURS]

^Mind giving me some insight on the latest issue? I don't read the X-men run but I'd like to start getting into it, so I can be caught up by issue 200.
It's all around Lady Mastermind (except for the part with Bobby and Mystique talking about Mystique being a murderous ***** and her relationship with Rogue) and something that's wrong with her. She goes to a doctor so he puts her under hypnosis to find this "thing" that's been bothering her and they all found out she's being possessed (or something like that) by a Mummudrai (they just mention the mummudrai being associated with the Shi'ar and Cassandra Nova) and the Mummudrai keeps jumping between bodies until it says it has come to warn them about the coming of Hecatomb and for the help of telepaths. We don't know what Hecatomb is and why it needs the help of telepaths, but at the end of the issue you can see the clouds in the sky forming something ominous (I can see a mouth lol but I don't know if it is). And that was what happened in this issue (basically). Hope it helped

[Colossal Spoons]

If they killed Wolverine off, the X-Men would be toast.

My dear Spoons, I find some interest in most of the main team members of the X-Men, but Gambit and Rogue have my heart and without them, I wouldn't be the strong X-fan that I am.

I'm a two-character person, I have to confess no matter how much that irks people. It's best to be honest. I've always been too busy to be strongly involved with more than two characters. My life can't revolve around the comics. Sorry for being annoying, I never intended to be. My two favs have always taken on a life outside the comics to be two of my favorite characters ever. I can relate to them better than the other characters. I find them the most real to me and the most accessible.

I stopped reading the comics 11 years ago because it's all I ever thought about and I thought that it was childish and immature to read them. I made myself stay away, but recently I realized through the X-films and the like that it wasn't, and I came back. And I saw this board, and I thought it would be great to share my comic love with other people.

I'm clueless about a lot of things in the comics and will forever be, and will never stop talking about Romy. I'm not a diehard fan and I don't have the X-mansion's address memorized. I don't mean to annoy or anger anyone. I'm here for the party and I like what I like. People can talk about whatever they want as long as it's appropriate and ethical. I don't care if someone gushes about Storm or Wolverine or Havok or Karima Shapandar. I'm free to discuss any character you want. So what if Gambit and/or Rogue will be mentioned in the post? It's my right and yours as well.

Laissez-faire as my favorite Cajun would say. Excuse the long post.:heart:


The rest of your post is cool, but unless you work for the CIA; you can be strongly involved with as many characters as you want.

[Havok83]

i guess i'm the exception to the rule:woot:
me too. I could care less for the Cajun

[Nature's Rising]

I need Sunspot, Magma, Angel, and Husk in a book. We could just get rid of....Karima, Lady Mastermind, Sabertooth, and Mystique

WORD. Why can't they develop old characters than create some new ones? I mean, Sunspot, Magma and Husk have so much potential to become great characters.

[Rogue's Hand]

Colossal Spoons I am a Rogue fan that is NOT a Gambit fan.
To be honest, I liked their relationship, but only as a tease.
Gambit is too much of a woman's man for Rogue to put up
with his crap. I've been a Rogue fan since I found out she existed.
I've actually never really considered Gambit her boyfriend.
Sort of figured people just paired them together due to the
constant flirting. I actually liked her more w/ Joseph.
If Rogue were to have a boyfriend, it'd have to be someone
who has presence, not someone who reeks of gumbo and dirty hair.

I respect other Rogue fans like Emmymae, but I do not link
Rogue to Gambit very much. In fact, I'm waiting for their confrontation
and I hope Rogue fries him like a 4th of July BBQ.
Though he wasn't in his right state of mind when he fought her
and almost killed her, I think it's time Tina left Ike. I'm done with him.
He shoulda stayed w/ Belladona. Rogue is leading a team now
and needs to move on. Any romantic involvement with Gambit
would be a huge set back IMO.

I also wanted to add that just cause Rogue is my favorite,
doesn't mean I don't like others. I love M (Monet). She's like
my backup in case Rogue were to ever be killed off :csad:
She reminds me a lot of Rogue from when she had her Ms. Marvel
powers. I also like Cannonball. His attitude lately makes me
happy he's in the books :woot:

In conclusion, when I think of Rogue, I think of a woman of strength
of will and leadership. Her sarcasm has been everything lately.
Love should be something that should stay away from her for
quite a while. She has some things about herself that need to be
fixed first. I'd rather wait and see how her relationship
with her stepmother (Mystique) will turn out.

Gambit should go on Blind Date or something because him
and Rogue should be done and over with >>>

[Nature's Rising]

^Good post Rogue's Hand. I agree. But I have to admit, they're a good couple. I am just concerned because it's like the stigmata Rogue left to a lot of people is that she is known as someone who has Gambit or Iceman. A lot of the non comic readers friends I know recognize her basically as someone who has a partner, like Jean and Scott. Although Jean is more relatively known as Phoenix, but a lot of my friends just know Gambit and Rogue as a couple, and not Rogue as a character. I just wish they'd recognize her more as an individual. I think Carey is doing such a great job with her.

If anyone asks me, she'd be better off without a man for a while. She's tough, her current personality as leader of X-Men reminds me of Storm so much, independent, will-powered and has the aura of authority. I think that she just spent too much mourning about how she's not touching Gambit or having the ability to be intimate at all. It's about time she's exploring her leadership skills, bringing out the tough Southern chick a lot of writers have only graced the tip of.

[JustABill]

I -love- Rogue. But hate Gambit.

Also, the X-Men are more than just Wolverine, guys and gals. If Logan was to quit the team it would survive. He's far from the best or most interesting X Character.

I also agree that someone should give other characters a chance to shine I'm sick and tired of new potential X-Men being created then put in limbo/killed off...

Bring Back these people Marvel:

1. Chamber (No Pocky Lips!)
2. Lifeguard
3. Husk
4. Magma
5. Wind Dancer
6. Petra
7. Sway
8. Cecilia Reyes
9. Danielle Moonstar
10. Slipstream
11. Sunspot
12. Skin
13. Synch
14. Wallflower
15. Wither
16. Icarus

Oh, and Angel and Jean Grey while you are at it. And make Jean actually interesting again. But then again this post is asking too much from Marvel. They'll continue creating new exciting potential X-Men only to kill them/send them off into limbo and will be stuck with the usuals still running the teams, which is not bad, but I'm tired of seeing the usuals and only the usuals. :rolleyes:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

For the love of...

Spoon and I said USUALLY. We bloody know not all Rogue or Gambit are suckers for the pairing. It's just that most are. God, relax. :woot:

[javon]

NO other mutants interest you? This is the kind of stuff that just blows my mind.
*Slaps forhead* Now you can't even like just ONE mutant without "blowing someones mind". Some posters just crack me up :p Agreeing with what someone said on here, I'm also a ONE-FAN person. Which everyone knows is Storm. Other characters I just LIKE, or REALLY LIKE. Whats so wrong with that? Mabe the other characters just aren't as interesting as your favorite character is in your own opinion. Stepping away from the drama, GothicFLAOURS thanks for that review! Although I have no idea who most of the characters are :csad: Thats why I'm very hesitant to get into this run, because I've missed so much :o JustABill, I have to agree with some of those characters as well. Magma and Wind Dancer are sooooo missed. Especially Wind Dancer :csad: :csad: :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

*Slaps forhead* Now you can't even like just ONE mutant without "blowing someones mind". Some posters just crack me up :p Agreeing with what someone said on here, I'm also a ONE-FAN person. Which everyone knows is Storm. Other characters I just LIKE, or REALLY LIKE. Whats so wrong with that? Mabe the other characters just aren't as interesting as your favorite character is in your own opinion. Stepping away from the drama, GothicFLAOURS thanks for that review! Although I have no idea who most of the characters are :csad: Thats why I'm very hesitant to get into this run, because I've missed so much :o JustABill, I have to agree with some of those characters as well. Magma and Wind Dancer are sooooo missed. Especially Wind Dancer


I found the problem. You love Storm so much that you don't even know who most of the other X-Men are. It's no problem really, I'm ultimately trying to get YOU to enjoy the X-Men more alltogether. I'll continue to buy every X-book that comes out; except First class, F that :down:. Was just trying to make room for you on the wagon :D

[Madmax308]

I found the problem. You love Storm so much that you don't even know who most of the other X-Men are. It's no problem really, I'm ultimately trying to get YOU to enjoy the X-Men more alltogether. I'll continue to buy every X-book that comes out; except First class, F that :down:. Was just trying to make room for you on the wagon :D

Well maybe you don't get First class but i do. I also get other X comics. Plus i like when the X-men comics are being written as a family not some gang on gang violence that just stinks up the joint. I think the X-men is best when they work as a team, a unit. Also there is nothing wrong with Javon loving storm's character as one of their favorites she is one helluva character.

Also you don't have much room to talk colossal spoons obviously your absolutely enthralled with wolverine, so the door swings both ways.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I found the problem. You love Storm so much that you don't even know who most of the other X-Men are. It's no problem really, I'm ultimately trying to get YOU to enjoy the X-Men more alltogether. I'll continue to buy every X-book that comes out; except First class, F that :down:. Was just trying to make room for you on the wagon :D
wait, wait, wait, you don't like first class??

[Colossal Spoons]

Difference is, my dislike for Wolverine doesn't keep me from buying Astonishing, New Avengers and every other book he pops up in; I even skim his solo title. This wasn't even about javon really; but most people who LOVE one character will only read the books where their fav person is in it. They'll even drop the book for a period of time if that person leaves the book.

Their choice to do what they please but the rest of the comic reading popuation(hopefully including you) considers that an odd thing to do.

[Madmax308]

Difference is, my dislike for Wolverine doesn't keep me from buying Astonishing, New Avengers and every other book he pops up in; I even skim his solo title. This wasn't even about javon really; but most people who LOVE one character will only read the books where their fav person is in it. They'll even drop the book for a period of time if that person leaves the book.

Their choice to do what they please but the rest of the comic reading popuation(hopefully including you) considers that an odd thing to do.
I apologise misundersttod your earlier posts of wolverine that assumed you were a wolverine fan. I apologise for assuming that.

But...
I do consider it an odd thing to do if someone leaves over their favorite character being written out or killed off because it's usually temporary anyway, and the fact their other characters i do enjoy reading, as long as their written with good storytelling, and their family and work well as a unit.
I still read all the comics that i can get within my budget in that month after i paid the bills of course, which are several X-books, as well non X-book related. etc.

[Madmax308]

edited post because of i accidently did a double post.

[Colossal Spoons]

It's cool. You're new so: 1. Welcome :D and 2. You'll def find out who I hate and exactly how much soon enough

The X-Men are what got me back into comics. I'm a huge Colossus fan and for as long as I've been reading; he's either been dead or in the background. I was forced to look into other mutants and now I love like 70% of the X-Men. I don't have many other obligations so I can afford to squander my paychecks on comic books(that'll change in May :()

[AndThePickles]

Also you don't have much room to talk colossal spoons obviously your absolutely enthralled with wolverine, so the door swings both ways.

Haha this is the first thing I saw on the page......Spoons is probably one of the biggest Wolverine haters around here lol. :hyper:

[Madmax308]

It's cool. You're new so: 1. Welcome :D and 2. You'll def find out who I hate and exactlky how much soon enough

The X-Men are what got me back into comics. I'm a huge Colossus fan and for as long as I've been reading; he's either been dead or in the background. I was forced to look into other mutants and now I love like 70% of the X-Men. I don't have many other obligations so I can afford to squander my paychecks on comic books(that'll change in May :()

Thanks colossal spoons, also i like colossus as well, anyway i hear husk angel and some others are coming in the X-men book? I hope it's true. It will be very interesting to see some of them in the X-men book.

[AndThePickles]

Husk and Angel are two of my favorites, but I haven't heard anything about them coming into an X-book besides just people in this forum discussing who they'd like to see be more active :csad: Where's you hear that news Madmax?? I'd love to see them come back as well.

[Madmax308]

Haha this is the first thing I saw on the page......Spoons is probably one of the biggest Wolverine haters around here lol. :hyper:

I apologised for my honest mistake.. but
i'm glad you got a good laugh at it anyway, at least it puts in good spirits,on this thread. lol.

[AndThePickles]

I apologised for my honest mistake.. but
i'm glad you got a good laugh at it anyway, at least it puts in good spirits,on this thread. lol.

Heh, don't worry, I saw that the confusion got worked out, I just laughed when I first saw it. Welcome to the boards btw :up:

[Madmax308]

Husk and Angel are two of my favorites, but I haven't heard anything about them coming into an X-book besides just people in this forum discussing who they'd like to see be more active :csad: Where's you hear that news Madmax?? I'd love to see them come back as well.

Thanks for welcoming.

That's where i thought i heard it, in this thread, but it is wrong of me again. I apologise but i didn't realise that it was just discussing about them not being in the comic enough. I'm embarrased now. Now i will hide in a hole.

[Colossal Spoons]

Thanks colossal spoons, also i like colossus as well, anyway i hear husk angel and some others are coming in the X-men book? I hope it's true. It will be very interesting to see some of them in the X-men book.


There's talk about Husk but Angel will def be involved with World War Hulk

[AndThePickles]

Thanks for welcoming.

That's where i thought i heard it, in this thread, but it is wrong of me again. I apologise but i didn't realise that it was just discussing about them not being in the comic enough. I'm embarrased now. Now i will hide in a hole.

Lol don't be embarrassed! Even in this forum it's not like I've read every little thing so technically you could have found out something I didn't.

Spoons: I didn't know Angel would be in World War Hulk.....how random! That's good though.

[Madmax308]

There's talk about Husk but Angel will def be involved with World War Hulk


Oh ok.

I'm hoping that besides World War Hulk they talk of Angel as well. Of course i'm just probably wishful thinking but hoping anyway. have my fingers crossed. :)

[Colossal Spoons]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266414

Post #8

[AndThePickles]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266414

Post #8

Hmm. Wonder what kind of "help" he'll be.

[Madmax308]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266414

Post #8


Thank you colossal for sharing that link it looks very interesting. :hyper:

[@JeanGrey]

And @Jean Grey you act like someone can't be happy for their favorite character. Who gives a flying fart that it's for tons of X-men? Their has been numerous mentioning of people saying what they liked. I swear, some people just overexaggerate things is the most annoying way.:whatever:

I am not overexaggerating anything, i have often declared my love for my favs, especially Jean,Rogue & Gambit. Of course people can be happy (or unhappy). Do u really want me to start typing millions of posts abt Jean?

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

..yes.:O

[Colossal Spoons]

No :o

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Then tell us all about Peter.:)

[Colossal Spoons]

He breaks worlds!

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Kitty will die for him.:csad: I don't know How I'll feel if I'm right.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd rather Wolverine die in space, but I guess I'll settle for Kitty. Hopefully it pisses Peter off...leading to more badass feats of strength...leading to Warpath recognizing that he's the #2 big man of the X-Men :o

[emmymae]

Post about whoever you want as much as you want. I don't care. I'd love to hear about your favs. And oh yeah, there's a thread for that, but whenever and in whatever thread it strikes your fancy, go ahead.

That plot for #197 sounds just plain weird. I'll wait for #200. I made the cover my wall paper. It's so pretty. I know, enough talk about the cover.

Ok, topic of discussion: Who is a better leader of the Adjectiveless X-Men, Rogue or Havok? It'd be interesting to know your thoughts. I'd vote for Rogue, sorry Alex. (Rogue's Hand, give Gambit a chance. He's perfect for Rogue, but of course not as Death.:yay: Sorry, guys, I can't stop myself.)

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Rogue.

[Colossal Spoons]

Havok

[AndThePickles]

Havok

[JustABill]

Rogue. As much as I like Havok. I always wanted him to be the incompetant leader struggling to be a great leader like his big bro to justify even more the fact that most of the time they are at one another's throats.

[spark627]

Rogue is def the better leader

[Rogue's Hand]

Post about whoever you want as much as you want. I don't care. I'd love to hear about your favs. And oh yeah, there's a thread for that, but whenever and in whatever thread it strikes your fancy, go ahead.

That plot for #197 sounds just plain weird. I'll wait for #200. I made the cover my wall paper. It's so pretty. I know, enough talk about the cover.

Ok, topic of discussion: Who is a better leader of the Adjectiveless X-Men, Rogue or Havok? It'd be interesting to know your thoughts. I'd vote for Rogue, sorry Alex. (Rogue's Hand, give Gambit a chance. He's perfect for Rogue, but of course not as Death.:yay: Sorry, guys, I can't stop myself.)

If he was so "perfect" for her don't you think he's had
more then enough time to prove it?
He's a complete waste of her time relationship-wise :whatever:

[Snikt 6]

Rogue....no doubt. Havok is great, but not a "natural" leader. Rogue just seems like she belongs in the forefront.

[Rogue's Hand]

Rogue....no doubt. Havok is great, but not a "natural" leader. Rogue just seems like she belongs in the forefront.

I still am losing my mind about what's about to happen with her powers.
Carey has me at the edge of my seat.

Rogue's powers evolving >> Gambit being her bf any day :woot:

[JustABill]

You are very very true in this post. In the many years that Gambit and Rogue have been together, he hasn't done much to show that he's the one made for her. It's almost always him that destroys their relationship. And it's never made sense for Rogue to be such a love sick puppy over this guy. She's always been shown to be a strong woman, and a strong woman like her would not put up with such a waste of a man and relationship.

She's way better off without him.

[Snikt 6]

^I am also very very interested. Sad seeing her just lying there like that......

Carey has really done a wonderful job, and I hope this is just the start of something really really good.

[Rogue's Hand]

You are very very true in this post. In the many years that Gambit and Rogue have been together, he hasn't done much to show that he's the one made for her. It's almost always him that destroys their relationship. And it's never made sense for Rogue to be such a love sick puppy over this guy. She's always been shown to be a strong woman, and a strong woman like her would not but up with such a waste of a man and relationship.

She's way better off without him.

Amen to that

[Snikt 6]

^Couldnt agree with you more. You know, I always thought Rogue and Collossus or Rogue and Angel would have made a cool couple.

[JustABill]

I'd prefer to Rogue have someone outside of the X-Men actually.

[Colossal Spoons]

How about that guy Mystique tried to set her up with? The guy with the eyes that cancelled out her powers.

[anyjus]

Agustus. Codename PULSE. He has the mutant ability to temporarly block a mutants use of thier abilities. The physical manifestation of his power is a "pulseing " glow his eyes give off. I would like to see him return. When where Husk and Angel hinted at joining Rogue's squad? I'm assuming this will happen after the big X-Over?

[Rogue's Hand]

^Couldnt agree with you more. You know, I always thought Rogue and Collossus or Rogue and Angel would have made a cool couple.

Collossus would be a much better candidate then Gambit.
Atleast she can kiss him while he's in metal form, jeesh.
With Gambit not only does she have to put up with the constant
flirting, but his flirty ways with other women.
I hated when Rogue even fought Belladonna over him.
She almost died and it was all his fault, not mention this
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9830/roguegambitstabbedwn4.png

Not to be dramatic but this was one of the most saddest/romantic
moments in comic book history IMO.
As a Rogue fan is teared me up a bit, LOL
Not to mention the fact that Rogue whooped the heck out
of Vargas!!! I wish I had scans of that. She sacrifices so much.

Which is why I am currently loving her character!
She was in need of some severe "Me" time!
Gambit should try it and get himself together also!
I'd love to see him do good,
just pleeeeez stay the heck away from Rogue!
He's literally equivalent to poison when it comes to her character path.

I hated Iceman as her boyfriend in the movies but to be honest,
I'd take anyone over Gambit any day. Though I personally don't
think the Bobby in the comics would be able to hold
his zipper closed for long. I have patience. The right man will come
for her when the time is right. For now I want Rogue to become
a powerhouse again! People aren't really scared of her. She doesn't
have leader powers is basically what I'm saying.
Carey knows what I'm talking about and he's gonna fix it.
Then that will be her climax point. :woot: :hyper:

BTW, I'm loving Bobby again. His airhead Collegeboy image
is slowly fading and it seems to me like he's trying to figure out
a lot. He seems like he's on to something with Mystique though.
I like that he's keeping an eye on her. She's blending in too well :huh:

[Rogue's Hand]

Agustus. Codename PULSE. He has the mutant ability to temporarly block a mutants use of thier abilities. The physical manifestation of his power is a "pulseing " glow his eyes give off. I would like to see him return. When where Husk and Angel hinted at joining Rogue's squad? I'm assuming this will happen after the big X-Over?
Wow is it confirmed? I would love to see Paige and Angel on the team!!
She was my 2nd favorite in Generation X. My fav was M.
Does anyone know what she's up to by the way?:huh:

[anyjus]

I honestly believe that Mystique has had a bit of a apifiny lately. We do know she will be around for quite a while. Carey has promised some great work to flesh out some of her indentity crisis' I would love to see Sabretooth die off or end up in O.N.E. custody. It's never really good to play with a psychopathic mass murderer. I guess I agree with Karima on this matter. Better to end the monster before he can kill agian. Especially one such as Creed, who will never accept change. Unless it's in the form of permenant telepathic behavioral modification.

[Rogue's Hand]

I don't think he should die :huh:

[anyjus]

As far as Angel and Husk joining Rgue's squad, I don't know if it was just hinted at or confirmed. Both have been living at the Institute, but are not on active duty. M is a member of X-Factor.

[Rogue's Hand]

WHHHHATTT!!!???


****RUNS TO X-FACTOR THREAD****

[Colossal Spoons]

Angel and Husk haven't been rumored to join any team. Angel will be involved in WWH and when Husk's return was brought up; the writer said "possibly"

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Great.

Exactly how long did we last before a Rogue fan started - yet again - asking for her to have more powers? :woot:

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, I think that's what Carey's hinting at with this strain 88 business

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I just Rogue to kick some ass, not fry it. Is that too much to ask for?:csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I just want her powers to return to some sort of normalcy. Personally, I liked her Ms.Marvel powerset.

[emmymae]

I guess I'm one of few people here who loves Gambit and Rogue. He has proven his great love for her, some people are too blind to see it. Gambit is the love of Rogue's life and nothing's going to ever change that. You're all stuck with him. The incident at Madripoor was not Gambit's fault. He was trying to get the ruby away from the bad guys. Rogue went in to save him because she loved him and because he deserves to be loved just like her.

They have pushed each other away and both have their own issues. The problems are not one-sided. Rogue is flirtatious herself, but that's just one of her charms as well as Gambit's. But I know once or twice he got carried away but not to the extent that some people think he has.

So, Gambit and Rogue aren't seeing new people. We're past the point of no return with that. And if you need to bring up Belladonna, it was not Gambit's fault that she tried to kill Rogue. It was Belladonna's fault. I actually read these issues so I know.

And Rogue is one heck of a leader and a strong woman. She proved that in the X-Treme X-Men Annual when she said she doesn't need Gambit beside her to be strong but it certainly makes it less lonely. There is real love on both ends and not some parasitic relationship. Gambit doesn't make her weak or subjugate her as a character. All the women in the comics haven't gotten as much recognition or important roles as the men. Blame that on the all-male writing staff of the X-books.

And don't bring up the Cyclops/Jean/Emma thing. Everyone knows who the real true love is and it ain't the blonde.:heart:

[Galact-Gal]

Okay, gang, I want to temporarily take this discussion back to issue 196. I'm wondering WHY Pan injected Rogue with his Strain 88 (or whatever it's called).

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought he said he was creating these formulas because he wanted to be able to absorb people's memories & personalities, like Rogue does. But since she already does that, what is injecting her with the formula going to prove? Shouldn't he have tried it out on another normal human or, at the least, some other mutant who doesn't already have Rogue's absorbing ability?

P.S. If this has been discussed earlier in the thread, just give me the page numbers. :-)

[AndThePickles]

That kinda confused me too.

[Rogue's Hand]

I guess I'm one of few people here who loves Gambit and Rogue. He has proven his great love for her, some people are too blind to see it. Gambit is the love of Rogue's life and nothing's going to ever change that. You're all stuck with him. The incident at Madripoor was not Gambit's fault. He was trying to get the ruby away from the bad guys. Rogue went in to save him because she loved him and because he deserves to be loved just like her.

They have pushed each other away and both have their own issues. The problems are not one-sided. Rogue is flirtatious herself, but that's just one of her charms as well as Gambit's. But I know once or twice he got carried away but not to the extent that some people think he has.

So, Gambit and Rogue aren't seeing new people. We're past the point of no return with that. And if you need to bring up Belladonna, it was not Gambit's fault that she tried to kill Rogue. It was Belladonna's fault. I actually read these issues so I know.

And Rogue is one heck of a leader and a strong woman. She proved that in the X-Treme X-Men Annual when she said she doesn't need Gambit beside her to be strong but it certainly makes it less lonely. There is real love on both ends and not some parasitic relationship. Gambit doesn't make her weak or subjugate her as a character. All the women in the comics haven't gotten as much recognition or important roles as the men. Blame that on the all-male writing staff of the X-books.

And don't bring up the Cyclops/Jean/Emma thing. Everyone knows who the real true love is and it ain't the blonde.:heart:
Thank God you aren't Mike Carey.
He recently said he's not promising Rogue + Gambit together again.
They will not get together and I can't wait until you
smash your keyboard pissed at the fact.

[spark627]

Okay, gang, I want to temporarily take this discussion back to issue 196. I'm wondering WHY Pan injected Rogue with his Strain 88 (or whatever it's called).

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought he said he was creating these formulas because he wanted to be able to absorb people's memories & personalities, like Rogue does. But since she already does that, what is injecting her with the formula going to prove? Shouldn't he have tried it out on another normal human or, at the least, some other mutant who doesn't already have Rogue's absorbing ability?

P.S. If this has been discussed earlier in the thread, just give me the page numbers. :-)

The reason is... Pan wanted to absorb peoples lives so that he could experience everything and feel like he lived forever. But he was only able to perm. absorb peoples power. He created strain 88 and thinks its able to make him absorb peoples lives, but he tested it on Rogue to make sure he wouldn't get sick...

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I just Rogue to kick some ass, not fry it. Is that too much to ask for?:csad:

You're saying this as if hardcore Rogue fanatics wanted just that. :woot:

I read some sick s**t about folks wanting her to have like 5-6 - strong at that - powers or even go as far as having her being able to just tap into whatever power she's ever absorbed. And rather than see it as some campy joke, there was genuine enthusiasm in responses to such a suggestion.

As I said... sick s**t. :wow:


I just want her powers to return to some sort of normalcy. Personally, I liekd her Ms.Marvel powerset.

Actually liked that set. Still, refer to comment above. :woot:

[Colossal Spoons]

Having her be able to tap into past powers could be cool, but she'd need some kinda of limitation. Maybe have it not as full strength or only for a certain period of time.

[Galact-Gal]

The reason is... Pan wanted to absorb peoples lives so that he could experience everything and feel like he lived forever. But he was only able to perm. absorb peoples power. He created strain 88 and thinks its able to make him absorb peoples lives, but he tested it on Rogue to make sure he wouldn't get sick...

When you say "absorb peoples lives" do you mean permanently (i.e. killing them) like Selene, for instance? He wants not just their minds & memories, but their life force? (Yeah, I know he's a bad guy, I'm just trying to clarify what he wants & why he thinks strain 88 would affect Rogue & him in the same way.)

[spark627]

When you say "absorb peoples lives" do you mean permanently (i.e. killing them) like Selene, for instance? He wants not just their minds & memories, but their life force? (Yeah, I know he's a bad guy, I'm just trying to clarify what he wants & why he thinks strain 88 would affect Rogue & him in the same way.)

I'm not sure he would kill them. He said he wanted immortality and said he would get it by absorbing the life and experiences of others. He also stole body parts from mutants so I don't think he would have a problem with killing someone.

[javon]

I just want her powers to return to some sort of normalcy. Personally, I liekd her Ms.Marvel powerset.
I agree with both of your comments :woot:

[javon]

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[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I... do too, J. I do too.:o

[Galact-Gal]

Okay, I had some errands to run, but I'm back & I've dug out my copy of X-Men 196. The following is from a page with Pan more or less explaining matters to Rogue (I really HATE not having page numbers!!!). His exposition is much too long to quote completely, so I'm using what I think are the major parts.

He says he's spent seven years "Mixing mutant genes with viral DNA. Infecting myself with the results, strain after strain." For some reason he thinks that experiencing other people's lives, as Rogue does briefly, is the equivalent of immortality (go figure). "But all I got was the super-powers. Strain 88 fixes that. After I've taken this, one touch will be enough. Enough to absorb the entirety of another person's mind and experience--sadly erasing the original in the process." Then he says he needed a guinea pig to make sure it's safe & he could only think of one person who fit the test criteria.

And that's where I go, Hey waitaminit! If Pan spent years infecting himself with (I assume) the 87 previous strains, mixtures of mutant genes & viral DNA, I would expect his biochemistry to be significantly different from Rogue's. However strain 88 affects Rogue, I wouldn't assume that it would affect Pan in the same way. And I don't understand why he would think that it would.

[emmymae]

Gambit and Rogue will get back together eventually, maybe not during the Carey run or for a few years to come. You're not getting your way. And that's that.

[Rogue's Hand]

Okay, I had some errands to run, but I'm back & I've dug out my copy of X-Men 196. The following is from a page with Pan more or less explaining matters to Rogue (I really HATE not having page numbers!!!). His exposition is much too long to quote completely, so I'm using what I think are the major parts.

He says he's spent seven years "Mixing mutant genes with viral DNA. Infecting myself with the results, strain after strain." For some reason he thinks that experiencing other people's lives, as Rogue does briefly, is the equivalent of immortality (go figure). "But all I got was the super-powers. Strain 88 fixes that. After I've taken this, one touch will be enough. Enough to absorb the entirety of another person's mind and experience--sadly erasing the original in the process." Then he says he needed a guinea pig to make sure it's safe & he could only think of one person who fit the test criteria.

And that's where I go, Hey waitaminit! If Pan spent years infecting himself with (I assume) the 87 previous strains, mixtures of mutant genes & viral DNA, I would expect his biochemistry to be significantly different from Rogue's. However strain 88 affects Rogue, I wouldn't assume that it would affect Pan in the same way. And I don't understand why he would think that it would.

I think that's what Carey has in plan.
Maybe Rogue will think she's going to temporarily absorb
someone and she kills them and absorbs their life and powers :huh:

[Rogue's Hand]

Gambit and Rogue will get back together eventually, maybe not during the Carey run or for a few years to come. You're not getting your way. And that's that.

In your dreams, you are part of a minority of
people who want Rogue to be a soap opera queen :whatever:

His fans don't even want him with her anymore.
Face it, it's not happening.

[emmymae]

Oh, whatever, it's not like you did a survey or anything. Anything can happen in comics.:oldrazz:

I can't wait for #200, that'll give us a lot to talk about. I wonder what will become of Rogue. The poor thing was in a healing chamber close to death last we saw.

[Snikt 6]

Having her be able to tap into past powers could be cool, but she'd need some kinda of limitation. Maybe have it not as full strength or only for a certain period of time.

Agree, maybe she was show more fatigue or something.....

[04nbod]

Having her be able to tap into past powers could be cool, but she'd need some kinda of limitation. Maybe have it not as full strength or only for a certain period of time.

yes maybe not being able to do it on command. I fully believe that is her full potential and she could cause some damage. I could see it popping up when she least expects and it could be a good get out clause for writers in action sequences

[Snikt 6]

^Or maybe she could not control which power she calls up......

[Colossal Spoons]

Or maybe every morning she wakes up, she can use a different power.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Or maybe every morning she wakes up, she can use a different power.

At random. Would be a riot. :woot:

Bobby: Damnit, those new Marauders took one the kids! We gotta go after them!

Rogue: Gonna have to sit this one out, sugah. Woke up with f****n Cypher's power this morning.

Bobby: ...

Rogue: Ah know.

:woot: :woot: :woot:

[bengan]

^HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA my swedish jaw is now broken :D

[Snikt 6]

^That would be so much fun to read!!!!! Hope they think of something cool like that.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

At random. Would be a riot. :woot:



:woot: :woot: :woot:
Oh, that would be funny as hell.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, that would make me buy a Rogue solo title or even a mini.

[AndThePickles]

I'd like Rogue much more if she was like that!

[emmymae]

Either way, I'd love her the same. I wrote a play with a character who alternates powers. It would be fun for Rogue to have a different power every day. Of course, being able to turn on and off her absorption power so she could safely touch those she loved would be great. I know some people want to keep that, I just want her to be happy.

It sounds like Strain 88 is supposed to make her able to absorb an entire person in one touch, and I think that means their death. Rogue never wanted that.

They could have had a great scene in the last issue with Iceman and Rogue while she's in the healing chamber. He could have said some nice words about how great a friend she is. I'm more interested in relationships and the condition of the characters than the actual plot. And I've really missed Gambit. He makes an awful Horseman.:csad:

[Mike059jig]

You know I was reading back #191 again to see more about the guy with the dark eyes that showed up at the institute.....what I notice was the art was totally different...it says clay henry on the cover...what happened to that guy??? his art is great!!!!!!!!

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

He's, like, the official x-fill-in artist.

[Snikt 6]

^Yeah, he is alright. Kinda like Bachalo myself. So who do you think will make the X squad after issue #200? We kinda know Rogue, Iceman and Cannonball will be there.....any other guesses?

[anyjus]

I'm pretty sure Cable, Mystique, and Omega Sentinel will still be around for a few issues after #200. Carey has promised some more character development for Iceman, Cannonball, Mystique, and Omega Sentinel in the coming issues. I think we will see the departure of Lady Mastermind. I'm betting Sabretooth will stay a prisoner.

[Rogue's Hand]

I'm hoping Husk & Angel can join the team.
Paige is very interesting with a very unique power.
I'd also love M from X-factor, though I know
she won't become X-men anytime soon.

[Mogwai]

^Yeah, he is alright. Kinda like Bachalo myself. So who do you think will make the X squad after issue #200? We kinda know Rogue, Iceman and Cannonball will be there.....any other guesses?

I, personally, hope Mystique stays around.

[Rogue's Hand]

I, personally, hope Mystique stays around.
Me too, she's very intruiging :wow:
There's so much to Raven, literally.
I want to see what Rogue plans to do
being that she picked her to be on the team and watch her.

[squeekness]

I, personally, hope Mystique stays around.Me, too. And Sabes. I like him around, even if he is a prisoner. Something about all that raw evil, makes him interesting.

[Colossal Spoons]

^I don't like the fact that he plans on killing the team when the nanos wear off in his body :(

[Brainiac 8]

^Yeah, he is alright. Kinda like Bachalo myself. So who do you think will make the X squad after issue #200? We kinda know Rogue, Iceman and Cannonball will be there.....any other guesses?


Rogue
Iceman
Cannonball
Mystique
Husk
Angel
Gambit

If they add those two, I'd be majorly happy with the group. :D

Plus, Carey, fix Gambit and put him back on a team. It's about time for a competent writer to work with Gambit. :(

[squeekness]

Rogue
Iceman
Cannonball
Mystique
Husk
Angel
Gambit

If they add those two, I'd be majorly happy with the group. :D

Plus, Carey, fix Gambit and put him back on a team. It's about time for a competent writer to work with Gambit. :(
Seconded and thirded. :up:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

^I don't like the fact that he plans on killing the team when the nanos wear off in his body :(

Quite frankly, I hope something horrible happens with that. At the very least one of the team members nearly offed. :woot:

As much as Sabes owns, just wtf was Rogue thinking anyway? Shouldn't this be this some sort of "last minute desperate alliance" thingy and that alone? Colossally bad idea doesn't even begin to cover this one. :woot:

[El Bastardo]

Well, what else would a sociopathic no-conscience murderer do when he breaks the bonds of his captors?

But it's not that bad of an idea. Ol' Mystique and Sabes back together again! Hm, it'd be funny for them to have dealings with each other. Not only were they both once weapons for X-Factor (hey, if it worked for that bunch of yuk-yuks, I figure Rogue's gotta figure it can't work out too badly with her at the helm!), but didn't they have a kid? That... Graydon Creed guy?

Or am I recalling incorrect things and jumbling them together?

[emmymae]

Graydon Creed is in fact Mystique and Sabertooth's son. You've got that right. Shame on Sabertooth. It's about time someone took him out for good. In an upcoming Wolverine issue, the preview said that Sabertooth and Wolverine were going to have a fight to the death and only one would survive. And Carey said that one of the Marauders wasn't coming back for obvious reasons that we will soon find out. (Sabertooth is one of the Marauders.) Sabertooth's gonna get it before he can kill anyone.:yay: As for my main woman, Rogue, putting him on the team, desperate times call for desperate measures and she did have nano-sentinels put into him just in case.

I guess they can keep Mystique though I can bet she's going on her merry way soon. Mike Carey promises to do his best for Gambit, but hasn't said for sure when he'll be back on the team. Hopefully in the next year or so this will be the case. Until then, Rogue and I will have to wait. Gambit's returning soon to the series though. Angel and Husk would be great on the team. I'd like to see the sibling interaction between Cannonball and Husk. Of course, I really want Psylocke on the team, but I know she's on another team right now.:csad:

[04nbod]

^I don't like the fact that he plans on killing the team when the nanos wear off in his body :(

you have to love the unpredictability of it- when is he going to snap? Any bets?

[Snikt 6]

Rogue
Iceman
Cannonball
Mystique
Husk
Angel
Gambit

If they add those two, I'd be majorly happy with the group. :D

Plus, Carey, fix Gambit and put him back on a team. It's about time for a competent writer to work with Gambit. :(

Not to bad, I would choose:

Rogue
Iceman
Mystique (not a big fan, but Carey writes her so well!)
Husk
Gambit
Sunspot (I have never really liked Cannonball)
Magma

[Rogue's Hand]

Seconded and thirded. :up:

I would love Gambit to join and for him and Rogue
to remain good friends. He can be a lil over protective
of her if he wants. I can see that happening :woot:

[Mogwai]

Has Carey stated that he has plans for Gambit?

[Valechan]

SABRETOOTH not Sabertooth... GODDESS PEOPLE!!!!

[04nbod]

Has Carey stated that he has plans for Gambit?
yes- after 200 but what they are is anyones guess

[emmymae]

I know Carey won't let Gambit go back into Limbo and that he'll been seen doing questionable things. But when he starts thinking of himself as Gambit again, all bets are off. Remy will eventually come back to his senses.

[Havok83]

I finally configured the cxover to X-men 200 as my wallpaper (1680x1050) and here's what I got

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5240/xmen200wpde1.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen200wpde1.jpg)

[spark627]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."

3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."

4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."

5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"

6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."

7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."

8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."

[Colossal Spoons]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."

Karima or Lady Mastermind probably

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."

Could he be talking about Gambit and Sunfire? lol

3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."

Sabretooth would be too obvious, Rachel Grey maybe.

4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."

Got a bad feeling it's Iceman

5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."

I'm thinkin Madrox

7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."

I'm stumped, Dust from NXM maybe

8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."

Iceman and Mystique. Or Iceman and Cannonball :p

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"

Heh, Cyclops

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."

Quicksilver possibly?

My predictions :up:

[squeekness]

Iceman and Cannonball, def! :D :p

[Colossal Spoons]

That'd make the Iceman fans go crazy.

How come we don't have any Cannonball fanatics around here? We could sure use one or two. :up:

[04nbod]

anyone but iceman and mystique- bleugh

[squeekness]

That'd make the Iceman fans go crazy.

How come we don't have any Cannonball fanatics around here? We could sure use one or two. :up:
I've always liked Cannonball. I think they need to put some back X-Force stuff on disc or trade. There's not much out there and I don't feel like hunting down back issues in the stores.

[Generation Lee]

so here are my thoughts on what Carey has said.

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."
Sentinal or Mastermind

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
Ok Northstar and his sis or Gambit and Sunfire

3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."
Sabertooth or Mystique maybe even Cable

4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."
Mystique does it on Iceman or Emma reverts him back to the moment on M Day when he thought he lost his powers.
5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"
Don't know anything about them.

6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."
Rouge

7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."
Not sure
8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."
Mystique and Iceman

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"
I'll go for Cyc too

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
Gambit.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."

[Colossal Spoons]

^Pretty cool predictions...even cooler avatar :D

[AndThePickles]

Didn't Iceman just get his powers BACK? I think it'd be so predictable if he was the one to lose them.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, but they were never "gone". It was all in his head.

[AndThePickles]

Still, I'd like to see someone new have power troubles.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah. It might be Cable too. his powers haven't been too stable as of late.

[Brainiac 8]

I like those little teasers...except, that is alot to fit into the issue, I wonder how big it will be.:yay:

[Colossal Spoons]

Is it going to be 2x sized or something?

[Brainiac 8]

Is it going to be 2x sized or something?


I'm sure it will be, most milestone issues get double stuffed.....I'm hoping for a triple stuffed issue though.

Sad as it is, I'll end up buying the hardcover of this and Bru's first ard when they come out, just so I can have them bound together for easier reading.

I am quite interested in what Carey has planned for the X-Men post 200 and this Sinister story. It's nice to finally get a writer that knows how the characters should be characerized. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah. Carey is def a breath of fresh air. There have been 1 or 2 issues I yawned during since his run, but I'm feelin him. :up:

[Brainiac 8]

Yeah. Carey is def a breath of fresh air. There have been 1 or 2 issues I yawned during since his run, but I'm feelin him. :up:


Especially since Milligan mis-characterized everyone for so long....heck he even messed up Apoc's characterization...and I didn't think anyone could do that.

His stories haven't been blowing anyone away, but he knows how to write the X-Men's personalities and make them seem natural. Plus, I think his stories since "Supernovas" are leading up to something very big. I'm actually looking forward to him following up on the Children of the Vault story.

I look forward to reading X-Men now, which I haven't done in a long time.

[Colossal Spoons]

Supernovas was actually my least favorite arc. Maybe because I knew it would have a cliffhanger ending.

Ideas like The Children and Homo Killcrop (see x-Factor) are awesome ideas. But I HATE when the seeds get planted for further stories. I'm too impatient for that :O

[bengan]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."
Karima
2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
Gambit and Sunfire
3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."
Mystique
4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."
Iceman, maybe by the hands of Mystique
5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"
The team is too big and its really not that important
6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."
Rouge or Iceman
7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."
Sabretooth and that makes him a part of the lineup
8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."
Mystique and Iceman(or maybe in a strange twist, Bobby and Sam :woot: )
9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"
I would like to see Sabretooth or Sam
10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."
Gambit

Theres my take on the news :)

And did you guys know that Bachalo AND Ramos is doing the art??Whats that all about?

And also, this is the lineup for teh Marauders:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/ilovebengan/marauders.jpg
carey said that all from the first team would be part of the new lineup

[Rogue's Hand]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."

Karima

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."

Storm & Jean

3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."

Lady M

4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."

Rogue

5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"

I don't care, sowwy :csad:

6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."

Rogue or Cable

7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."

Cannonball

8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."

Mystique & Iceman

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"

Iceman

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."

Sinister

I think this will be it.

[emmymae]

I can't wait. I'm really dying to know what happens. I suspect that Gambit just might be the new leader of the Marauders, because he's Death now. It's so sad. Carey said previously that one of the Marauders won't be there. I have a hunch it's Sabretooth. Sunfire and Gambit are returning for sure. Mystique and Iceman are certainly getting it on. She's old enough to be his grandma. Rogue just might be the one to lose her mind or her powers. For the betrayer, it might be Cable, because Carey said in a recent interview that Cable is one character who could potentially be a villian. That would certainly be shocking. Karima might be the one to die, since she's a smaller character.

Carey said months ago that one of Rogue friends, either Iceman or Cannonball, won't be able to be there for her. One of them will be the one possessed.

I like the idea of Cyclops kicking back with a cold one. Hopefully, he doesn't take it from Wolverine's stash.:cwink:

[04nbod]

i'm hoping the mytsique/iceman thing is too predictable and we get a twist. I'm cool with everyone's predictions though. I don't know if rogue will be the crazy one she's already been through a lot but she seems the most likely to snap

[cerealkiller182]

I thought Iceman and Mastermind had slightly better chemistry than Iceman and Mystique.

Is this Iceman/Mystique thing still going on since the cover with her looking like she was kissing him but gave him mouth-to-mouth in the comic?

[Snikt 6]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."
Karima
2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
Gambit & Northstar
3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."
Easy answers are Sabertooth or Lady Mastermind. I think it will be Mystique.
4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."
Rogue! In one of his interviews Carey had said he would head a team up with a de-powered Dani Moonstar. Well he will get his chance by having a de-powered Rogue leading this team.
5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"
Sabertooth is out.
6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."
Could be Rogue. I think it will be either Cable or Lady M.
7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."
What about Emma?

8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."
Bobby and Rogue! Right before Gambit shows up.

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"
As a Mormon, I can not condone the use of Alcohol. Its bad for you and I am sure you could do ANYTHING more productive with your time and money.

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."
Emma Frost!

Wow, this might be fun!!!!!!!

[iamlegend]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."
Eh, it'll be one of the outsiders. Who cares?

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
One's Gambit (who he's been getting questions about). The other I'd assume would be Sunfire, but it could be Northstar too.

3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."
With this team it could damn near be anyone. Half of them have been villains before.

4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."
Here's a creative one- Gambit neutralizes Rogue's powers with his weird gas manipulation. It's tragic because it happens when Gambit is, well... evil. Or Mystique could do it.

5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"
The big three stay, with an overhaul otherwise. But it'll take six or seven issues to really fall into place.

6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."
Gotta be Rogue, right?

7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."
I dunno.

8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."
Iceman and Mystique.

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"
It'd have to be Cable, in my mind.

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."
Hmm. This one's interesting. Since it's supposedly "jaw dropping" it rules out any obvious guesses like Sabretooth, or even Gambit.

[anyjus]

From Wizard mag, ten reasons why x-men 200 changes everything

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."
Lady Mastermind. Carey has mentioned that she won't be with the team after #200-#203 arc, and stated that she would'nt fade into limbo.

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
Maybe Gambit. I think it will probubly be Northstar, Husk, and Archangel. I combination of that. There have been a lot of questions about Northstar. Just as many as Gambit.
3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."
Cable or Sabretooth. Cable, because he will do whatever he feels is ultimatly right for Mutantkind. Maybe even agree with Sinisters plan of action. Sabretooth is obvious. Then again so is Lady M if she's still kicking.
4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."
Iceman
5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"
Sabretooth might be busy
6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."
Mystique or Rogue
7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."
Mystique
8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."
Iceman and Mystique
9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"
Cable
10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."
Gambit, or Sunfire, or whoever Malice possess's

[bengan]

been working a little in photoshop, and this is what the variantcover will look like(i think :P)
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/ilovebengan/Namnlst-1kopiera.jpg
Both Karima and lady mastermind is absent, and emma(or is that Lady M) are with the Marauders.

This would mean that its Emma or Lady M that Malice will take over.

[Specter313]

Uh, no. They're two separate covers.

[Snikt 6]

^Good guess though. I think it will be Emma, but Lady M would be a good guess also.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd like Lady M to leave the team that way.

[Specter313]

Also, I'll say it again, the placement on the cover likely means absolutely nothing. Random is there and he's an Acolyte, not a Marauder, and we can also see one of Karima's guns to the right of Arclight's face, and she's an X-Man too, no a bad guy. It happens all the time, and people are reading way too much into that image like they did with the Finch cover.

[emmymae]

Odd placement of characters though.

[anyjus]

That picture is very missleading. I would rather that be Lady Mastermind than Emma Frost. Her hair is not as blonde as Emma's, but she is wearing white attire. I can't wait till' June.

[Snikt 6]

Also, I'll say it again, the placement on the cover likely means absolutely nothing. Random is there and he's an Acolyte, not a Marauder, and we can also see one of Karima's guns to the right of Arclight's face, and she's an X-Man too, no a bad guy. It happens all the time, and people are reading way too much into that image like they did with the Finch cover.

Yeah, I know. But it is something to talk about.

[@JeanGrey]

1.
DEATH IN THE FAMILY. A member of Rogues team falls in the line of duty! CAREY: "A call to arms, but arguably too late."
Lady Mastermind. If Sabs gets killed it will be from his battle with Wolvie, not in the line of duty.

2.
RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
Gambit and Northstar. The last joins a team, the first is out of X-teams or teams in general till he pulls himself together once more. I don't think he is gonna be part of any team till Carey gets rid of the Death costume.

3.
BETRAYAL FROM WITHIN. The X-men face the deadliest threat of all: one of their own!
CAREY: "There's something nasty going on thats not obvious at all and will carry on not being obvious even after the big reveal."
Cable.

4.
POWER OUTAGE. One of the X-men will lose their mutant abilities when they need them most!
CAREY: "Such a tragic beat, because of how it's done and who is responsible."
Rogue, this has been said by Carey in previous interview (the guy talks too much)

5.
THE MARAUDERS RETURN. Among the X-men's deadliest foes, these villains already caused one "Mutant Massacre" - and the timing of their comeback couldn't be worse.
CAREY: "Who's in? Who's out? Dont wait for someone else to buy the issue and tell you!"
Wait and see

6.
TAKE THE CRAZY TRAIN. By issue's end, an X-man's mind may be too far gone to salvage.
CAREY: "The darkest aspect of the issue - and my run so far."
An obvious choise would be Rogue. I suspect Sam Guthrie as well. Cannonball lost his brother and maybe things get too hard for him. And why not Mystique.

7.
MALICE AFORETHOUGHT! The body posessing Marauder claims another X-man!
CAREY: "It's a slightly different Malice with a new method of breaking and entering."
Ohhh! That's something I am really looking forward to!

8.
X-RATED ENCOUNTER. Two members of the team get closer than ever in a decidedly adult fashion!
CAREY: "Wait until you see how this plays out."
Bobby and Mystique. Rogue is not well physically to get such an experience and after all i don't see her getting in any relationship any time soon.

9.
THIS BUDS FOR YOU! An X-man - who's NOT named Wolverine - cracks open a cold one!
CAREY: "I'm allowed to do this right?"
Cannonball.

10.
UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. The Marauders get a familiar face as their new leader.
CAREY: "The most jaw dropping moment in the whole issue."
It won't be Gambit. Maybe Cable.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

For the love of...

This issue happens before the current Astonishing arc and Emma still is an x-man. Recent madness-induced betrayal or not. :oldrazz:

I mean, come on, they're seriously not gonna have TWO possession stories in the same 18 months span.

Mmm. Come to think of it, I seriously HOPE so.

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope there aren't 2 possession stories so soon :o

[Rogue's Hand]

I'm so anxious

[Snikt 6]

^Same here, I cant wait to get this storyline started.

[emmymae]

I have to know what happens and I wanna see Gambit again!

[PhoenixWillRise]

HELP NEEDED!

With the upcoming X-Event, starting in issue #200 of X-Men, I am going to start buying X-Men on a monthly basis (I already buy Uncanny, Astonishing etc)... BUT, in preperation for issue #200, I want to catch up on the stuff that has been going on in X Men... how far back (which issue number), should I try to get so as I am up to date on stuff.... I know that the 2006 annual is supposed to be like a prelude to the X-Event... but should I go back further than that for the general stories... say, should I start at issue 194 onwards since that was a new arc.. or should I read the previous arc's too?

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, if you really want, you can pick up the "Supernovas" arc, but I wasn't too fond of all the Children stuff. I suggest you start right after that arc(I'm bad with issue numbers). Hope that helps :up:




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[PhoenixWillRise]

Well, if you really want, you can pick up the "Supernovas" arc, but I wasn't too fond of all the Children stuff. I suggest you start right after that arc(I'm bad with issue numbers). Hope that helps :up:




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Cool thanks, the Supernovas arc seems to be issues #188 - #193... and then followed by Primary Infection, which is the previous arc, #194 - #196

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, you could start with Primary Infection. Supernovas was interesting b/c it set up future stories, it just bored me at times.

[Snikt 6]

I would start with #188, just because Carey has been building this team since then and it really flows well with the following arcs. Plus you get to see some awesome Bachalo art. Bonus.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

But you should also know that if you start from 188, that The Children really suck. Of course, that is only my opinion. I'm sure someone here could tell you why they're... likable.

[bengan]

Also, I'll say it again, the placement on the cover likely means absolutely nothing. Random is there and he's an Acolyte, not a Marauder,
Well the last thing we saw of him was that he joined Sinister, so he could easily be with the Marauders now.


and we can also see one of Karima's guns to the right of Arclight's face, and she's an X-Man too, no a bad guy.
Well thats Randoms gun, he used one of those in the Annual.

[Specter313]

Well the last thing we saw of him was that he joined Sinister, so he could easily be with the Marauders now.

No, the last thing we saw was Exodus talking to Sinister while Random and the others stayed outside and didn't know who he was talking to. And they said they are going to be the new Acolytes, not Marauders


Well thats Randoms gun, he used one of those in the Annual.

Again, no. Random's guns are purple, just like his skin. That gun is a metallic gray, just like the one we saw Karima use in the last issue Ramos drew.

[Snikt 6]

^Yep, good call.

[Charlie No-One]

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RETURN OF HEROES? Two prodigal X-Men burst back onto the scene - but whose side are they on?
CAREY: "Ever since I took over, I've been getting questions on one of these two characters. There will be some cries of joy when they come galloping over the horizon."
Northstar. The last joins a team, the first is out of X-teams...


I hope. I really want to see him return.

[Snikt 6]

^Meh. I know he will be back because Carey likes the character. Me, not so much. I would rather have characters like Sunspot, Magma or Forge get more time.

[ProfeZZor X]

^Meh. I know he will be back because Carey likes the character. Me, not so much. I would rather have characters like Sunspot, Magma or Forge get more time.

I totally agree. Magma or Sunspot would be great additions to the team... Mondo is another good character I would like to see make a return to the "X" ranks.

[Colossal Spoons]

Forge usually hangs out around the mansion. Remember the good old days when the X-Men spent more time in the mansion with the prof? :sigh:

[ProfeZZor X]

No, the last thing we saw was Exodus talking to Sinister while Random and the others stayed outside and didn't know who he was talking to. And they said they are going to be the new Acolytes, not Marauders.

Wrong.... In the end, Exodus pledged his respect and loyalties to Sinister in exchange for his solution to the "no more mutants" problem... So yeah, he did "join" him. To what capacity is yet to be revealed.


Again, no. Random's guns are purple, just like his skin. That gun is a metallic gray, just like the one we saw Karima use in the last issue Ramos drew..

Since when did Random have guns?... He has ALWAYS had the mutant ability to fire hardened protoplasmic bursts from his morphed arms.

According to Marvel: http://www.marvel.com/universe/Random

[ProfeZZor X]

Forge usually hangs out around the mansion. Remember the good old days when the X-Men spent more time in the mansion with the prof? :sigh:

I wonder if he were capable of creating a machine to repower mutants. If he could take them away from Storm, I don't see why he can't repower them either... I could see him, Beast and Sinister teaming up to take on that task.

[Valechan]

Wrong.... In the end, Exodus pledged his respect and loyalties to Sinister in exchange for his solution to the "no more mutants" problem... So yeah, he did "join" him. To what capacity is yet to be revealed.


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Since when did Random have guns?... He has ALWAYS had the mutant ability to fire hardened protoplasmic bursts from his morphed arms.

According to Marvel: http://www.marvel.com/universe/Random

We also saw Dark Beast completely "destroying" Random's form, so perhaps since his "rebirth" he lost that ability.

[Snikt 6]

Forge usually hangs out around the mansion. Remember the good old days when the X-Men spent more time in the mansion with the prof? :sigh:

Oh man, the good old days. I bet Forge could whip something, anything up to help out Beast in getting this whole mess figured out.

[ProfeZZor X]

We also saw Dark Beast completely "destroying" Random's form, so perhaps since his "rebirth" he lost that ability.

Where were you at when they were passing out copies of the X-Men Annual?

Random clearly had the ability to use his protoplasma gun when he and Cable were at a stand off.

[Specter313]

Where were you at when they were passing out copies of the X-Men Annual?

Random clearly had the ability to use his protoplasma gun when he and Cable were at a stand off.

But since when did Random have guns? :whatever:

[Specter313]

Wrong.... In the end, Exodus pledged his respect and loyalties to Sinister in exchange for his solution to the "no more mutants" problem... So yeah, he did "join" him. To what capacity is yet to be revealed.

Did you even pay attention to what we were talking about? I said that Random never said he joined the Marauders. And I never said that Exodus didn't "join" with Sinister. If you're gonna pick apart my posts, pay attention to what I'm talking about.

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Since when did Random have guns?... He has ALWAYS had the mutant ability to fire hardened protoplasmic bursts from his morphed arms.

According to Marvel: http://www.marvel.com/universe/Random

That still makes them guns. :whatever:

[emmymae]

I really miss the "down time" issues. It seems that it's been one crisis after another for several years. I really hope Beast can figure out a solution to the no more mutants thing. Carey said he's the only one who can. I think Beast said somewhere that all the depowered mutants' powers had been put some place else. Who told the Scarlet Witch she could do that? That's crazy.

[usagicassidy]

Honestly, we haven't had much 'down time' since the Trade Paperback craze became such a staple of Marvel's marketing. We apparently like nice little six-issue arcs with explosive self-contained stories! Therefore, no threading and weaving plotlines stretching a years worth of comics where characters come and go and stories take time to develop. Ahhh how I miss the 80's and 90's.

[DoomJester]

I like a lot of the speculation I see here, but some of it is unsettling. As far as I knew AXM was the head, and the others used their own characters but didn't step on AXMs toes. The idea that Carey could mess with Emma Frost...! I hope not. Honestly, Carey is a good writer, but his X-men is nothing special. Before they start trying to kill people and stuff to get readership up, why not just write good arcs? Why not get Astonishing out on time? I'll give Marvel this, I was going to drop Xmen until they started this whole issue 200 thing.
That brings me to this point-- often times in comics big ideas, bold ideas are saved for "milestone" issues, as if some issues should be better than others. The thing I liked about AXM was that you got the feeling that any issue could be huge, anything could happen, hell was always ready to break loose. Whedon's plotting wasn't really that amazing, but he was consistently bold, and I think that's a big reason why he was rewarded.

[emmymae]

Carey's not going to mess with Emma. If he gets to use her in a story, then he may do what he likes. I trust his judgement. It does take a while to get things to a better place and that's the case with the Adjectiveless book right now. From what I've seen since I came back to the comics only recently, is that there was at least two or three years of poor writing in the X-Men book.

I do wish they'd stop having crises and tragic character deaths for the sake of selling more comics. I agree with you there. I could go on and on about Gambit as Death. Though I do like the TPB thing; keeping the stories in neat little packages for us lazy people who don't get to the comic book store on a regular basis. But they could have a 'nothing catastrophic happens' story arc for once. Like, the X-Men put on a musical. That would be funny.

[Madmax308]

I read all the X-men books. That's the point theres a book for everyone, and all the X books are for people like me who like to buy and read all the X-books. It doesn't hurt either when it's about being true to the characters.:cwink:

[ProfeZZor X]

That still makes them guns. :whatever:

So what other name would you call them then?

... Protoplasmic crap shooters?

[ProfeZZor X]

Sneak preview for #198:

http://www.popcultureshock.com/index.php?p=41477

[Specter313]

So what other name would you call them then?

... Protoplasmic crap shooters?

Then why did you say they were something else in the first place?

[Specter313]

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COVER BY: CHRIS BACHALO
WRITER: MIKE CAREY
PENCILS: CHRIS BACHALO
INKS: TIM TOWNSEND
COLORED BY: STUDIO F - EDGAR DELGADO
LETTERED BY: VC - CORY PETIT

“CONDITION CRITICAL”
Behind the X-Men’s worst nightmare there’s a bigger nightmare waiting in the wings. Hecatomb has dropped from deep space onto the island of Providence, bringing death to whatever he touches - and Cable receives an offer of help from a truly terrifying source! Be here for the story leading into the milestone 200th issue! Part 2 (of 3)!
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

PRICE: 2.99
IN STORES: 2007-04-25

[aaron]

disaster looks awful pretty.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I hope this issue is good (As in I hope it isn't boring and I can tell what the fudge is going on with the art.)

[Rogue's Hand]

I hope Rogue finally wakes up :whatever:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Just to reiterate that... goddamn I hate Baccalo's art, lol. :woot:

Cartoonish to the tenth level. hungh. :woot:

[Generation Lee]

I agree possed by an alien parasite means you have blue lines running down your face. As much as I hate the art duruing Morrison's run on this book at least Nova took controll of Xaviers boady and you knew that there was no need from blue line crap!!!!

I swear the art puts me off month in month out!

[Colossal Spoons]

Interesting preview :up:

[aaron]

Just to reiterate that... goddamn I hate Baccalo's art, lol. :woot:

Cartoonish to the tenth level. hungh. :woot:

to save the arguements can't everyone just leave it at stylised. :p

[usagicassidy]

You know, I was enjoying the art, but now,I just want to really 'know' what's going on. The entire time Carey's been onboard, I've felt lost at times, mostly due to Bachalo but I had the same problem when Ramos when drawing.

Between not knowing what's going on here, not caring anymore in Uncanny, and waiting forever for Astonishing, it seems like New X-Men and X-Factor are the only worthwhile books at the moment.

Or maybe I'm just being synical because it's hell week and I want to die.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

No, you're right. X-factor and New X-men are always on point.

[emmymae]

The X-books have always been confusing. It's not that Bachalo's art is bad, it's just that I prefer the more realistic-looking drawing of Salvador Larrocca or Andy Kubert and those other guys. Ever since I came back to the comics, I've been confused. But I'm not sure if that's because I quit reading for 11 years or because of the different writing. I also don't pick up every issue, I figure I'll go for TPB's so I have the whole story. I looked at the preview and I'm really lost. I follow Gambit and Rogue so it's the X-Men book for me.

Wake up, sugah, Ah miss ya.

[aaron]

i like the way he draws cos he has a unique style, yeah it can be confusing but i think it's good when you have to look closer and figure out what's going on... if everything was just straight forward it would get kinda boring pretty quick.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

And that's why writing is so imporatant.

[usagicassidy]

amen.

[Snikt 6]

Writing is the key. Thats why X-Men and New X-Men are amazing right now - the writers.

[emmymae]

Maybe Carey can be one of the writers of the future X-Men films.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Writing is the key. Thats why X-Men and New X-Men are amazing right now - the writers.
I'd add X-factor to that list. Doesn't matter the art, the story is always solid.

[Specter313]

Another page:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0704/12/xmen1986.jpg

[Generation Lee]

Yes Iceman getting some action nice.

[anyjus]

Anybody pick up the first line from the Hectomb? It's a quote from a Shi'ar Captain from a few issues back.

[spark627]

ugh ramos is back in july... i hate his art

[Havok83]

ugh ramos is back in july... i hate his art
where did you read this? That is the worst news

[bengan]

I think he means the info for#200, what does it mean?:
X-MEN #200
PENCILS: HUMBERTO RAMOS
CHRIS BACHALO

[Colossal Spoons]

Yaaaay!

[ProfeZZor X]

Cover for #201. I actually like Bobby with these longer pants.

Long story short: This is the issue where the team has already been disbanned, and Bobby and Sam have to reasses the situation and think of a plan to overtake the Marauders.

This cover alone is probably a clue as to who is going to be left on Rogue's/Carey's team.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/Profezzor_X/XMEN201.jpg

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I like Bobby's X-pants.

[ProfeZZor X]

I like Bobby's X-pants.

Much better than the leather speedos. The utility belt also adds character to the simplicity of his uniform too.

[Rogue's Hand]

Much better than the leather speedos. The utility belt also adds character to the simplicity of his uniform too.
I have a feeling this issue will show Bobby's true maturity.
Him and Sam will have to do twice the work being that
they are really the only true X-Men remaining.
I'm very excited to see how the battle plays out.

[ProfeZZor X]

I have a feeling this issue will show Bobby's true maturity.
Him and Sam will have to do twice the work being that
they are really the only true X-Men remaining.
I'm very excited to see how the battle plays out.

Me too. Bobby and Prime Sentinel had to face Pandemic alone and failed. I wonder how he and Sam will be able to face an entire team of super powered killers... And survive.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm really feelin Bobby's new attire :up: