Official X-MEN: LEGACY Discussion Thread

[OutcryX]

oh...and WHAT is Scarlet Witch doing there???

[Canemacar]

So...are we gonna get a scene with Bobby and Sam like we did with Mystique and Bobby?

And will Bobby pass on the STD he caught from Mystique?

[iamlegend]

When she gets free, I'm thinking it'll be the X-men who do the rescuing. They assault Sinister's Antarctica base in #205 after all.

Speaking of which, I was hoping being in Antarctica again would actually get Gambit a bit more pissed at the X-men, not end up making him even more whipped than his lame as hell return after #350.

I want to know how Gambit fits into the battle in 205...

I mean, they're making it quite obvious he's not game to kill any of the X-Men... so how does he handle himself in a fight with the entire team?

[Canemacar]

I want to know how Gambit fits into the battle in 205...

I mean, they're making it quite obvious he's not game to kill any of the X-Men... so how does he handle himself in a fight with the entire team?


You could see his coat in that scan of #205 that got posted a few weeks ago. It looked like he was fighting Logan near the middle of the splash page.

[Specter313]

Or it was Scrambler's coat, which is a little more likely, since the pic you posted had the coat colored a little too green.

[Specter313]

Well Carey confirmed that Rogue will definitely evolve during these issues, saying "Rogue will be in a completely different place by issue # 207". And he also confirmed she'll be involved in Messiah Complex. As far as Gambit? Why wouldn't he free Rogue? He saved Sam from getting killed.:word:

Or by "in a completely different place" he meant "in the land of the dead". :p She IS in the pic of characters who have a chance to die. ;)

[Canemacar]

Or it was Scrambler's coat, which is a little more likely, since the pic you posted had the coat colored a little too green.


Scrambler could be seen in a different part of the picture.

[Specter313]

Scrambler could be seen in a different part of the picture.
Not from what I remember of it.

[Canemacar]

http://www.dudetubeonline.com/2007/09/04/xmen0830.jpg

Scrambler is the guy in the green coat getting hit by colossus. Gambit is off panel except for part of his brown coat at the bottom right. Wolverine is facing him, claws extended.

[Rogue's Hand]

Or by "in a completely different place" he meant "in the land of the dead". :p She IS in the pic of characters who have a chance to die. ;)I doubt she's going to die at all. :oldrazz:

[UraniaChang]

Gambit picks Logan as his opponent is smart, he doesn't need to hold back and risk the chance of revealing himself.

[iamlegend]

Gambit picks Logan as his opponent is smart, he doesn't need to hold back and risk the chance of revealing himself.

That, and I feel like Wolverine would likely single Gambit out in a battle if he thought Gambit was a "traitor" or something to that effect.

[Silver Phoenix]

Wolverine Vs.Gambit;I'd like to see that!!

[Coldqueen]

We've already seen that.

[Coldqueen]

I prefer to believe Gambit is about to bite Rogue's nose.:oldrazz:

Because that makes soo much sense.

(Gambit can bite my nose anytime.)

In preparation for his twisted 'baby eating' agenda later on? :D

...well, of course.

Gambit makes baby-eating look good.

Or maybe to bring Rogue out of her coma.

Gambit: Hmmm. *chomp*
Rogue: *bolts upright* MOTHER*****ER!!!

...WTF? LOLZ. I wants to see that.

I think those pages with Rogue & Gambit are misleading. I think it's meant to make Canmacar mad on purpose because of all the recent Romy hate. I am almost sure they will fight.:woot:

Oh and the art is beautiful!!

You have caught me out.

I hacked into the Marvel mainframe and altered those scenes.

Just to piss off CanCan.

When Rogue wakes up and maces him for hovering over her like a stalker, yeah.

Again...

Gambit makes stalking look good.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Or by "in a completely different place" he meant "in the land of the dead". :p She IS in the pic of characters who have a chance to die. ;)

Well, so are Cyke and Wolvie. :cwink:

[gothicFLAVOURS]

http://www.dudetubeonline.com/2007/09/04/xmen0830.jpg
Why is Emma translucent in that picture?

[The_Vision]

I think its her diamond form

[Hotaru]

Or maybe that's her telepathic manifestation. Bachalo doesn't draw translucent Emma in her diamond form.

[DoomJester]

Emma can beat Sinister? I don't know, but mainly because I don't know Sinister, I guess I remember him from the Fox show but that was it.

[Hotaru]

Maybe Emma and Storm are fighting Sinister as a team - one keeps his telepathy in check and keeps it occupied, while the other attack physically.

[Slant]

Sinister was about to blast everyone to hell, but just tripped and is falling backwards.

Clearly.

[Canemacar]

Sinister was about to blast everyone to hell, but just tripped and is falling backwards.

Clearly.

Thats what he gets for wearing heeled boots.

[iamlegend]

Emma can beat Sinister? I don't know, but mainly because I don't know Sinister, I guess I remember him from the Fox show but that was it.

You never know who can do what against Sinister... He's been "killed" more often than most villains, and Cyke's done it before with little more than an optic blast.

So you never really know.

[Slant]

Well, at least we know Bobby and Sam can't do it.

[OutcryX]

They can however, do each other

[UraniaChang]

Sinister probably got distracted and ambushed by Emma and Storm when he was looking around and screaming for Scott, like what happen in What If #69.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

They can however, do each other

Someone's gotta help Sam recover and cuddle him after that mind-numbing business with Essex, eh? *sigh*


And about Emma's (likely) psychic form, we're to assume she's at Cerebro's helm, I take it?

[Coldqueen]

Sinister is "taking one for the team".

As for Emma...

No.

She's dead.

Her and Jean are having tea in Heaven and swapping tales about Cyclops' repressed homosexuality.

[Colossal Spoons]

I can drink to....them drinking

[Coldqueen]

...you're silly.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Her and Jean are having tea in Heaven and swapping tales about Cyclops' repressed homosexuality.

ROTFLMAO.

Now *that* would be something.

What's next, Cyke/Wolvie FTW? :woot:

[Coldqueen]

...have you been reading my fanfiction?

;)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

...have you been reading my fanfiction?

;)

Weren't you saying something about PWP threeways?

Guess Remy could fit the bill since he's not an actual Summers...

[Coldqueen]

...baby, even if he was a Summers I might write him in.

I write HEROES fanfiction after all.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

...baby, even if he was a Summers I might write him in.

Weak.


I write HEROES fanfiction after all.

No idea what the hell that means or whatever the ships are.

Considering the cheerleader's jailbait, I gotta assume most of it is slash?

Shame on you if you've written a Nate/Peter epic.

[Colossal Spoons]

...you're silly.

Haha, 3rd time I've heard that this week and it's only Tuesday

[Coldqueen]

No idea what the hell that means or whatever the ships are.

Considering the cheerleader's jailbait, I gotta assume most of it is slash?

Shame on you if you've written a Nate/Peter epic.

...I don't write slash.:o

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

EDIT: Pfff. Yeah right.

As if it didn't beat anything having to do with the only other available female. I would've thrown in a 'namely', but can't actually remember the name of Larter's character, lol. Good God did she have the cheesiest plotline ever.

[Coldqueen]

...you're so not getting this.

If I wrote Scott/Remy/Logan, tehre would be INCEST involved.

I write PETER/CLAIRE, you nutcase.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

...you're so not getting this.

If I wrote Scott/Remy/Logan, tehre would be INCEST involved.

I *know*. That's why I called you on that questionable joke you made about throwing Remy in. Refer to that 'weak' comment of mine.

I write PETER/CLAIRE, you nutcase.

Mmm. How old is the guy again? Oh well, gotta admit, it could be the one not-so-creepy ship involving Claire.

[Coldqueen]

I *know*. That's why I called you on that questionable joke you made about throwing Remy in. Refer to that 'weak' comment of mine.


I wasn't making a joke about throwing Remy in. Hell, if you've already got Scott and Logan, what's one more egotistical dude in the mix?


Mmm. How old is the guy again? Oh well, gotta admit, it could be the one not-so-creepy ship involving Claire.


In reality, he's like 28 or so and his character is about the same.

As for Claire, hell, Kring changes her age so often it's hard to tell.

LOL, all I know if Kring hates the pairing and we love to irritate Kring.:whatever:

[Varient]

Sam and Bobby gay lovers.

I hope not.








really.


I'm really getting tired of the (made up word here) Playametrofication of Males in comics.

"Real men" as in males who have male traits that are based on gender and not on the wimpification (somewhat made up - i've seen it in print.) of men as women would want to read them,
(A man sees a woman and EVERYTIME he first notices her non physical positive qualities - then when she's ready to see him that way - he has a controlled lust for her?)

Are being replaced by touchy-feely guys who read like nine year olds in regards to women.

MEH.

Marvel,.. if you are reading this PLEASE DON'T PAIR THESE TWO UP AS A GAY COUPLE.

[Coldqueen]

Why? That'd be funny because even as we're all playing, we'd be RIGHT.

[OutcryX]

so...gay = "Playametrofication"..no really what does that mean?...as well as wimpification" and "touchy-feely guys who read like nine year olds".....is that what you were trying to say? if not, please clarify

[DoomJester]

Uh oh... sh**storm time... I remember what happened last time someone brought up something about gays in the Countdown section...

[Varient]

so...gay = "Playametrofication"..no really what does that mean?...as well as wimpification" and "touchy-feely guys who read like nine year olds".....is that what you were trying to say? if not, please clarify

Disclaimer: ALL MY OPINION - do not put this on any other male just for being a MAN.

Now (cheerfully):

Playametrofication = Playa + Metrosexual. A Playa is all about him,.. wants not needs, any port in a storm sort of loser who takes advantage of others BECAUSE HE CAN.
Metrosexual is as close to "null-gender" as a male can get and still have the urge to have sex with sumbody. they seem to share more female traits than male AS A MATTER OF CHOICE.


Wimpification = this downturn in society where it's okay to not TRY, It's okay to not "play to win" because we don't want to hurt anybodies feelings by having them come in second place. Men in America are being raised not to compete.
Women in groups "claim" they want a man with an obvious sensitive side - they want it JUST like I described it - reread the words in the same sentence with "Wimpification".

"Are being replaced by touchy-feely guys who read like nine year olds in regards to women."

CLARIFICATION - MALES are expected to be at the "I like you,.. do you like me?" stage of male-female interaction to give girls the warm and fuzzies. (Around nine years old.)
You read all these "hard" females in comics and their opposites.(males)
THE MEN are starting to be written as "weak", "no real will", lil boys looking for the approval of bad girls,... OR turning suddenly with no prior provocation to homosexuality.

Frankly I don't like it.

Now you need to fuss,....................... Bring it.

V.

[Varient]

Uh oh... sh**storm time... I remember what happened last time someone brought up something about gays in the Countdown section...

No worries,.. this is where you find out who's a thinker and who is a kneejerk.

[Canemacar]

Disclaimer: ALL MY OPINION - do not put this on any other male just for being a MAN.

Now (cheerfully):

Playametrofication = Playa + Metrosexual. A Playa is all about him,.. wants not needs, any port in a storm sort of loser who takes advantage of others BECAUSE HE CAN.
Metrosexual is as close to "null-gender" as a male can get and still have the urge to have sex with sumbody. they seem to share more female traits than male AS A MATTER OF CHOICE.


Wimpification = this downturn in society where it's okay to not TRY, It's okay to not "play to win" because we don't want to hurt anybodies feelings by having them come in second place. Men in America are being raised not to compete.
Women in groups "claim" they want a man with an obvious sensitive side - they want it JUST like I described it - reread the words in the same sentence with "Wimpification".

"Are being replaced by touchy-feely guys who read like nine year olds in regards to women."

CLARIFICATION - MALES are expected to be at the "I like you,.. do you like me?" stage of male-female interaction to give girls the warm and fuzzies. (Around nine years old.)
You read all these "hard" females in comics and their opposites are starting to be written as weak no real will lil boys looking for the approval of bad girls,... OR turning suddenly with no prior provocation to homosexuality.

Frankly I don't like it.

Now you need to fuss,....................... Bring it.

V.



...You just got finished watching Fight Club didn't you?

[TromaFreak64]

....we are all seriously ADD around here we never stay on topic

[Varient]

...You just got finished watching Fight Club didn't you?

No.

I say often that I see trends in comics.

Right now there are only "two" non disfunctional hetro relationships in both Marvel and DC each.

ALL THE REST OF THEM are either nightmares or headed that way because of lazy writing in my view.
(based on the mess i put in my last post.)

Yet,...............................

ALL THE HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS are functional with ANY heat coming ONLY from the outside.

And as time goes on,... the number has been steadly increasing on the gay side while the straight side remains conflicted, damaged and almost too much trouble.

NOW we have two (up to this point) Straight heroes making "goo goo eyes" at each other as if the X-men really really need a gay couple in their ranks?

I'm pretty sure one of them won't become all powerfull and try to take out the planet, cyclops/phoenix

or

switch bodies/sides/ powers so often that they can't stay in the relationship. so often that we don't know what's up with them psyloc/angel

or

Die
colossus / shadowcat
Megan / Capt Britain
Moria mctaggert / Banshee
Sync / M / Jubilee

So far in Marvel the homosexuals will have a nice lil stable relationship with each other as they save the world and stand shoulder to shoulder against folk who don't approve of their life - choice, having NONE of the BS that the hetro couples go through.


I'm wishing that gambit and rogue would settle down,... Emma grow up and Scott loosen up, bring back Cecila Reyes and have Hank Sweep her off her feet, let Peter and Kitty have some real happiness instead of the shots between world threats,

Stop creating and destroying hetro couples for story fodder.

And definetly,... seriously not create yet another "perfect" gay couple.


Meh.

[Canemacar]

No.

I say often that I see trends in comics.

Right now there are only "two" non disfunctional hetro relationships in both Marvel and DC each.

ALL THE REST OF THEM are either nightmares or headed that way because of lazy writing in my view.
(based on the mess i put in my last post.)

Yet,...............................

ALL THE HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS are functional with ANY heat coming ONLY from the outside.

And as time goes on,... the number has been steadly increasing on the gay side while the straight side remains conflicted, damaged and almost too much trouble.

NOW we have two (up to this point) Straight heroes making "goo goo eyes" at each other as if the X-men really really need a gay couple in their ranks?

I'm pretty sure one of them won't become all powerfull and try to take out the planet, cyclops/phoenix

or

switch bodies/sides/ powers so often that they can't stay in the relationship. so often that we don't know what's up with them psyloc/angel

or

Die colossus / shadowcat
Megan / Capt Britain
Moria mctaggert / Banshee
Sync / M / Jubilee

So far in Marvel the homosexuals will have a nice lil stable relationship with each other as they save the world and stand shoulder to shoulder against folk who don't approve of their life - choice, having NONE of the BS that the hetro couples go through.


I'm wishing that gambit and rogue would settle down,... Emma grow up and Scott loosen up, bring back Cecila Reyes and have Hank Sweep her off her feet, let Peter and Kitty have some real happiness instead of the shots between world threats,

Stop creating and destroying hetro couples for story fodder.

And definetly,... seriously not create yet another "perfect" gay couple.


Meh.

A good rule of thumb, my friend, is to never take me too seriously.

For the record, I do agree with you about the wimpification of guys in modern culture. I've had many a complaint about how wrong the dynamic with Gambit/Rogue is.

[El Bastardo]

Wow.

[Colossal Spoons]

So, what are we talking about?

[AndThePickles]

So, what are we talking about?

I never know what's going on in this thread :csad:

[Varient]

So, what are we talking about?


Still Talking about the upcoming issue,.... I just went to the side to defend my use of two "words".

V.

[DoomJester]

I do understand what you are saying Varient. It's interesting. Certain groups seem to be more protected than others. Just my impression from reading comics.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I do understand what you are saying Varient. It's interesting. Certain groups seem to be more protected than others. Just my impression from reading comics.

Hetero male WASP = universal b**ch. :woot:

[Varient]

I do understand what you are saying Varient. It's interesting. Certain groups seem to be more protected than others. Just my impression from reading comics.

Okay,...
I am saying that.

In this case,.... Men are written as boys,... weak ones, women are written as tough and capable, Males and females can't get together in a long term relationship that works, (With Exception of The Richards they self destruct.) Gays are written as having NO issues or drama within their relationships,...

Homosexual relationships are being lifted up, perfect affairs that can only be sullied if the outside world doesn't accept them w/o reservation,...

Hetrosexual relationships are dragged thru the mud and written as never a good thing in the longrun.

Look at the Marvel list ALONE.

How many Stable child rearing couples? TWO.
(Fantastic four / InHumans)

How many stable married couples w/o kids? NONE.
(Panther / Storm and Spiderman / MJ apparently headed for breakup.)

How many stable Single hetro couples? Relative,... six if you ignore nonpowered couples in the MU, and two headed for self destruct..
I'm even including the off again on again thing with Iron Fist and Misty Knight.

How many stable Homosexual pairings? ALL OF THEM.

Men and women are written in comics as not able to get along.
Same sex are ALWAYS shown as DRAMA FREE.

My frustration of being unable to point at more than one hetro couple and say "thats the way you do it" has me more than irritated everytime they intro yet another perfect Gay couple.


GEE,... MoonDragon,.. the most Abrasive, stuck up, combative superhero ever settles right down into a loving relationship with the current Quasar/Captain Marvel.


go figure.

[DoomJester]

Oh no, I got what you were saying the first time. I tend to agree with you.

[Coldqueen]

Maybe gays are more easy-going than heterosexual people.

[Coldqueen]

....we are all seriously ADD around here we never stay on topic

Well, you do.

A couple others do.

But I'm not called a thread-derailer for nothing.:word:

[El Bastardo]

So, what are we talking about?
Varient called Colossus a wussypants. Sic 'im!

[Rogue's Hand]

So to get back on topic, as a Rogue fan I am really excited about where this is going to lead. I know that Rogue is going to have something to do with Messiah Complex, but what will it be? Carey has totally derrailed her character away from what I want and like. I'm sure I'll get thrashed for this but am I the only one who wants Rogue to be a little bit more violent. Not in a Wolverine-esque kind of way, but more like her own momma Mystique :woot:

The last time I saw Rogue fight well... she took a bullet :whatever:
Carey says he aims to please Rogue fans and I'm sure there is still something very important in store for her, but I'm growing impatient. I hope that # 204 will shed some more light on her a bit. Not just the Romy situation, but more than that. I want to see what she'll say to Mystique, after being almost sure that she was going to betray her. I'm also very curious as to what will come of the team. With only Bobby, Sam, and a wounded Rogue left of the team, I'd like to be able to atleast hint who might be joining the roster. Did Carey ever mention hints of a future lineup? I wouldn't mind Husk, M, The Twins, or even Angel to join the lineup.

[Colossal Spoons]

Varient called Colossus a wussypants. Sic 'im!

WhyIoutta!

[Varient]

Maybe gays are more easy-going than heterosexual people.

?
I can't believe that.
(Too many examples seen in person in Seattle and San Fransisco where they dragged their business into the street.)

I'm just thinking that The comic companies don't realize how unbalanced they are in relation to this.

I can't picture/remember one gay couple who self destructed from the inside like the next three scheduled will.
Peter and MJ
Luke and Jessica
T'challa and Ororo.

And then we get into how Rulers in the Marvel Universe are not forced by their people to produce a heir as soon as they grow hair on their privates like it happens in real life?

Doom,... Namor,.. And the Panther should all have rug-rats scrabbling around their kingdoms.

meh.

[iamlegend]

So to get back on topic, as a Rogue fan I am really excited about where this is going to lead. I know that Rogue is going to have something to do with Messiah Complex, but what will it be? Carey has totally derrailed her character away from what I want and like. I'm sure I'll get thrashed for this but am I the only one who wants Rogue to be a little bit more violent. Not in a Wolverine-esque kind of way, but more like her own momma Mystique :woot:

The last time I saw Rogue fight well... she took a bullet :whatever:
Carey says he aims to please Rogue fans and I'm sure there is still something very important in store for her, but I'm growing impatient. I hope that # 204 will shed some more light on her a bit. Not just the Romy situation, but more than that. I want to see what she'll say to Mystique, after being almost sure that she was going to betray her. I'm also very curious as to what will come of the team. With only Bobby, Sam, and a wounded Rogue left of the team, I'd like to be able to atleast hint who might be joining the roster. Did Carey ever mention hints of a future lineup? I wouldn't mind Husk, M, The Twins, or even Angel to join the lineup.

They haven't hinted about any new teams because they're trying to keep this "We're dumping certain books" charade going.

Though they have said that they intend to keep Carey somewhere as long as possible.

[UraniaChang]

If nothing else, the art of Adjectiveless is at least finally taking a much better turn at #204, though I must say that Rogue probably absorbed Reed Richards on the cover, that's one uncomfortable pose.

[Canemacar]

Choi's art looks good on some characters, but horrible on others IMO. I really liked the panel of the X-men gathered in Cyke's office, but thought the Romy page looked pretty bad. The cover just makes me roll my eyes.

[Coldqueen]

?
I can't believe that.
(Too many examples seen in person in Seattle and San Fransisco where they dragged their business into the street.)

I'm just thinking that The comic companies don't realize how unbalanced they are in relation to this.

I can't picture/remember one gay couple who self destructed from the inside like the next three scheduled will.
Peter and MJ
Luke and Jessica
T'challa and Ororo.

And then we get into how Rulers in the Marvel Universe are not forced by their people to produce a heir as soon as they grow hair on their privates like it happens in real life?

Doom,... Namor,.. And the Panther should all have rug-rats scrabbling around their kingdoms.

meh.

:o I was being sarcastic.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Bad move. Varient was very serious about this from the get-go.

Meh, might as well take a sec to reiterate that white male W.A.S.P.'s are the universal b**ch. Case in point, Gambit.

See, the 'back on topic' thingy *can* be done. :p

[Coldqueen]

...Gambit is not a W.A.S.P.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

...Gambit is not a W.A.S.P.

I wasn't being 100% serious. Was just referring to the 'White Northern American' thingy with a twinkle in the eye.

[Canemacar]

...Gambit is not a W.A.S.P.

I think Darth was using WASP to refer collectively to the white hetero males. The people without any kind of "victim" status that causes society to have a guilt complex about them.

[Varient]

:o I was being sarcastic.

I realized that AFTER I wrote my post.

I need to step away from this subject and hope that things change.

My bad.:dry:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I think Darth was using WASP to refer collectively to the white hetero males. The people without any kind of "victim" status that causes society to have a guilt complex about them.

Almost beat me to it, eh. :cwink:

Figures guys would figure it out automatically, lol.

[Coldqueen]

:o You two fanboys are so far up each other's grillz I'm surprised you can't read each others' minds.








:oldrazz:

[Canemacar]

:o You two fanboys are so far up each other's grillz I'm surprised you can't read each others' minds.








:oldrazz:


Gimme a break. I can read everyone's mind. Outcast is thinking up dirty jokes he'll use later tonight, Darth's mind is jumble of "Cyclops" "ROXXOR" and "LOL", and right now you're thinking about what a smartass I am.:woot:

[Coldqueen]

:wow:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Gimme a break. I can read everyone's mind. Outcast is thinking up dirty jokes he'll use later tonight, Darth's mind is jumble of "Cyclops" "ROXXOR" and "LOL", and right now you're thinking about what a smartass I am.:woot:

Nice. :woot:

For the sake of accuracy, throw in "Governator" and "PWN"

[OutcryX]

Gimme a break. I can read everyone's mind. Outcast is thinking up dirty jokes he'll use later tonight, Darth's mind is jumble of "Cyclops" "ROXXOR" and "LOL", and right now you're thinking about what a smartass I am.:woot:


i offer substance and serious debate....what is this dirty joke thing u say...name 10 specific instances in which i have made a 'dirty' joke...pfff, childish nonsense:ninja:

[Coldqueen]

...surr-iously?

Pssht.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Pssht. What Queenie said.

OutcryX doesn't even need to THINK about these jokes.

It's in his blood.

[OutcryX]

Pssht. What Queenie said.

OutcryX doesn't even need to THINK about these jokes.

It's in his blood.


which amazingly is disease free...unlike Iceman...or Mystique for that matter...I wonder if Sam can apply dental dam to his man-hole?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Good God.

And there I was about to say OutcryX's... proficiency with these jokes wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

Gotta give you props for staying on topic with the Blue, Bobby and Sam bit, though, lol.

[Coldqueen]

...dental dam?

[Canemacar]

which amazingly is disease free...unlike Iceman...or Mystique for that matter...I wonder if Sam can apply dental dam to his man-hole?


Please forgive me for not recognizing your constant efforts to bring serious debate and mature discussion to the SHH boards.

:dry:

[OutcryX]

Please forgive me for not recognizing your constant efforts to bring serious debate and mature discussion to the SHH boards.

:dry:


sexual health IS a serious debate that needs more discussion.

[Canemacar]

sexual health IS a serious debate that needs more discussion.

I never learned about using dental dam to create an ass-plug in health club. Public school has failed me again! :cmad:

[Generation Lee]

A what and a what I'm sorry I actually don't wanna know. LOL.

[Varient]

Smh.

[OutcryX]

I never learned about using dental dam to create an ass-plug in health club. Public school has failed me again! :cmad:

The Public educational system turns in one disappointment after another. I personally attended the Westheimer Institute of Scholars.

[Canemacar]

Wow. I bet a fancy place like that has a whole wing dedicated to the teaching of butt plugs.:wow:

[OutcryX]

Wow. I bet a fancy place like that has a whole wing dedicated to the teaching of butt plugs.:wow:
you should enroll, cuz you obviously came from a public school

[Specter313]

The Public educational system turns in one disappointment after another. I personally attended the Westheimer Institute of Scholars.

You sure it was Westheimer and not Wisenheimer? :o

[Jake Cassidy]

What's wrong with a public school?!

[OutcryX]

You sure it was Westheimer and not Wisenheimer? :o

nah..Westheimer...as in Dr. Ruth Westheimer...jeez yall are slow

[Colossal Spoons]

...dental dam?

As in "what is it?" or "why?"

:D

[Coldqueen]

More...

WTF?

[Specter313]

That seems typical around here these days. :o

[Specter313]

X-MEN #207
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by CHRIS BACHALO
Cover by DAVID FINCH
Variant Cover by JIM CHEUNG
MESSIAH COMPLEX PART 13
The stunning conclusion to Messiah CompleX. Everyone has an agenda, but do any trump the child’s destiny? Mutant savior or mutant destroyer, the combatants may come to regret their roles in this fight. And what becomes of the X-Men in the wake of the biggest fight of their lives?
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Figures we wouldn't get the cover art, eh.

[Rogue's Hand]

Wow, can't wait to see what's up :)

[Coldqueen]

I bet that "regret" comment is concerning Gambit.

[Silver Phoenix]

Oh, I can't wait for this now...counting down days, even, for the beginning of it all!:D;)

[Canemacar]

We should be getting #204 previews today, shouldn't we?

[Rogue's Hand]

We should be getting #204 previews today, shouldn't we?
I've been waiting for it too :csad:

[Specter313]

We've had previews for 204 for days now.

[Canemacar]

Previews have scans with the text included. We don't have those.

[Canemacar]

Here's the #204 preview(with text of course)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12149

[iamlegend]

Here's the #204 preview(with text of course)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12149

Not bad...

They're again setting Gambit up to return to the X-Men, or at least I think so. Why else wouldn't he be in the panel right after Cyke states they gave too many people too many second chances? Mystique and Lady Mastermind were...

[Rogue's Hand]

This issue looks to be very good. And what's crazy is I can see Sinister is having trouble in Rogue's mind also :wow:

[Canemacar]

They're again setting Gambit up to return to the X-Men, or at least I think so. Why else wouldn't he be in the panel right after Cyke states they gave too many people too many second chances? Mystique and Lady Mastermind were...

Wouldn't that be the opposite of setting him up to return?

[Rogue's Hand]

Not bad...

They're again setting Gambit up to return to the X-Men, or at least I think so. Why else wouldn't he be in the panel right after Cyke states they gave too many people too many second chances? Mystique and Lady Mastermind were...They showed Mystique also :cwink:

[iamlegend]

They showed Mystique also :cwink:

Uh, I said Mystique... :huh:

[Canemacar]

This issue looks to be very good. And what's crazy is I can see Sinister is having trouble in Rogue's mind also :wow:

I didn't see it as Sinny having trouble. It sounded more like it was tedious and annoying.

[Rogue's Hand]

I didn't see it as Sinny having trouble. It sounded more like it was tedious and annoying.
What do you think he'll do to make her concious again??:huh:

[The Englishman]

The Artwork is gorgous, keep this guy on the book!!!

[Specter313]

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X-MEN #204
COVER BY: MICHAEL CHOI
WRITER: MIKE CAREY
PENCILS: MICHAEL CHOI
COLORED BY:
LETTERED BY: VC - CORY PETIT

THE STORY:
“BLINDED BY THE LIGHT—EPILOGUE”
The X-Men lick their wounds after being taken apart by the Marauders. See what remains of Cannonball and Iceman. Discover the fate of Rogue. See the Marauders prepare for the next part of their plan.
Featuring Endangered Species Chapter 17 – The end of Beast’s journey. Has he uncovered a new hope for mutantkind?
40 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Ooooh, love it.

And Can might be happy we get that many page without Romy. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

That's a long preview

[squeekness]

I still wanted to see the ROMY page but I guess that would be giving too much away.....

[Varient]

That's a long preview

agreed.

[Canemacar]

Ooooh, love it.

And Can might be happy we get that many page without Romy. :D

With my luck every page except those 6 will be filled with nothing but that kind of tripe.

And Choi's art sucks. I'd rather have Bachalo and Ramos.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

And Choi's art sucks. I'd rather have Bachalo and Ramos.

Meh, love it better than the B&R Tag Team of Doom.

Except for the 'Sinister looking a goth yaoi vampire' thingy. Just, wtf? :woot:

[squeekness]

Sinister looks like Marilyn Manson. :p

[Canemacar]

More evidence Gambit is related to Sinister: they're both prettier than any of the girls.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Sinister looks like Marilyn Manson. :p

Nah, more like a girly Manson meets VIncent from FF7. Only even girlier. And then some more. Ad infinitum.

[Canemacar]

Vincent was fairly manly in FF7. He was an ex-mobster who could transform in hulking monsters and had mechanical arm. That was badass. It was in Advent Children they made him all effeminate.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oh, Vincent rocks. Was just referring to his look of late.

And yeah, I should've made the distinction. Don't remember that much about his looks in the original game.

Still, my comment rather had to do how Choi went for something ressembling a girly Vincent vibe. :p

[Canemacar]

And again I'm left wondering why the lack of any distinctive gender features is considered attractive.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

And again I'm left wondering why the lack of any distinctive gender features is considered attractive.

Meh, I kinda think he looks like a girl, so I can't really use any 'no gender features' argument.

[Slant]

More evidence Gambit is related to Sinister: they're both prettier than any of the girls.
Ha. I was thinking something along the same lines when I saw how his Sinister looks.

[UraniaChang]

That's the first time someone makes Sinister a gothic kind of sexy...:dry:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Ha. I was thinking something along the same lines when I saw how his Sinister looks.

So Cable and Cyke looking like actual male specimens is just him driving the point home about how Remy ain't a Summers, eh?

[Canemacar]

Meh, I kinda think he looks like a girl, so I can't really use any 'no gender features' argument.

Well, he does have stubble now, so I guess it'd be "mixed gender features".

[Slant]

So Cable and Cyke looking like actual male specimens is just him driving the point home about how Remy ain't a Summers, eh?
He could be the pretty one out the bunch. Or maybe he's a Sinister clone. Or an Astral projection. Or All three.

****ing Claremont.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, he does have stubble now, so I guess it'd be "mixed gender features".

Oh boy. Hadn't even noticed the stubble.

Got distracted by the feminine upper-face and oh-so-kisseable lips.

[Canemacar]

Oh boy. Hadn't even noticed the stubble.

Got distracted by the feminine upper-face and oh-so-kisseable lips.

Tell me about it. I got a boner just looking at him. :oldrazz:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well, not actual wood, but if I was swinging that way I'd totally be making comments about jumping that darling.

Just, wtf, a SEXY Sinister? Too funny.

Always pictured him as having the features of a dignified hardass. Oh well.

[iamlegend]

I really, really want Mystique to finally get offed. I'm so sick of the uber alpha female thing.

I hope it's Sinister that does it too.

[Canemacar]

Carey has kinda been going overboard on the Mystique favoritism lately, so I sympathize. If it happens, it'll be Rogue though.

[DJSCARLET]

yeah right! carey wouldnt have the balls to do that to rogue (no matter how pissed off some of her fans are about the whole sunfire power).
why does it look like cyclops stuffed cotton balls in his mouth? and as for sinister, the dude is from the victorian ages and yet he looks like a pretty goth boy:woot: :oldrazz:

[UraniaChang]

yeah right! carey wouldnt have the balls to do that to rogue (no matter how pissed off some of her fans are about the whole sunfire power).
No power will do her any good if she doesn't get a personality make-over soon.

why does it look like cyclops stuffed cotton balls in his mouth?
Because he's in the mood for snacking.

[Silver Phoenix]

Well,pertaining to Sinister, I am loving the new drawings-MC-I see of him already!:PAnd if anyone remembers X-Men:The End, we were told there Gambit is actually a clone of Sinister-his 'son', actually, after a sense...we never got confirmation of that in the actual X-Universe, but it stands to reason that it might indeed be the case;if anyone remembers, we had Kurt Darkholme as son to Raven Darkholme back in AoA, but we never got anything more than hushed hints about Mystique's relationship to Nightcrawler...and it turned out AoA was right on the money about that;)Why not Gambit and Sinister?We've been getting hints for years!

[Canemacar]

Mystique was shown to be Kurt's mom prior to the AoA.

[Coldqueen]

Tell me about it. I got a boner just looking at him. :oldrazz:

:wow:

O rly?

[Coldqueen]

[About the Preview]

Rogue is looking pretty good, even despite the unconsciousness and the camel-toe.

Clearly everyone else has had better days.

Except Sinister.

He's totally hitting his peak.

And yes.

He is...devilishly sexy. I find it disturbing. I haven't found him this attractive since he went all 'ex-con' in Ultimate.

Yes, it is rather clear that Gambit is not included in the list of "bad second chanced people".

In fact, it seems to me that perhaps Cyclops and Emma have done something or know something about Gambit that no one else knows. Like, maybe, that he's really on the side of good?

[iamlegend]

[About the Preview]

In fact, it seems to me that perhaps Cyclops and Emma have done something or know something about Gambit that no one else knows. Like, maybe, that he's really on the side of good?

Well there was that debate about whether or not Emma "pushed" him to do it mentally...

And I do find it odd that Cyke wouldn't specifically bring Gambit up as a traitor in his rant, seeing as how the X-Men as a whole are supposed to have just found out about him being a Marauder.

[Canemacar]

Well there was that debate about whether or not Emma "pushed" him to do it mentally...

I don't think that would be much better than the established reasons. He just goes from being a fool to a tool. I'd prefer it if they just had Gambit agree to do it of his own will with Emma setting it up with him.

And I do find it odd that Cyke wouldn't specifically bring Gambit up as a traitor in his rant, seeing as how the X-Men as a whole are supposed to have just found out about him being a Marauder.

Same reason no one cared that they let Wolverine back after he killed Northstar.

[Slant]

And I do find it odd that Cyke wouldn't specifically bring Gambit up as a traitor in his rant, seeing as how the X-Men as a whole are supposed to have just found out about him being a Marauder.
Yeah, its a bit odd that he's not being mentioned, especially since he hasn't shown up since the whole Apocalypse thing. I doubt they'd even know if he's still influenced by that or not.

But it looks like the whole Milligan thing will just be forgotten...

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Not to mention he was a rather direct witness to Cable's *death* and somewhat of an active playa.

[Slant]

It'd be funny if he did his thing the whole crossover without running into the X Men, and then afterwards, just shows up acting clueless. :D

But we already know thats not happening. Anyway Gambit shouldn't sweat anything Cyclops says. I've already said between the Horsemen thingy, the possibly Sinister messing with his head, and Skrulls, he's got a ton of excuses to pull. Even though he'll likely blame himself and mope afterwards.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Even though he'll likely blame himself and mope afterwards.

Which is kind of a GOOD thing. Take responsability and all that crap.

*Glares at hardcore Romy fans.* :D

[Canemacar]

Which is kind of a GOOD thing. Take responsability and all that crap.

I don't know, at this point a bit of prickishness would be a good thing. I got more than my fill of the angst/guilt stuff during Austen and Milligan's tenure.

[Coldqueen]

I still maintain that Emma/Scott has something to do with his defection.

It's just all set up too conveniently. Emma and his little "Hunger" scene, Scott's not mentioning him, etc.

Also, yes, let Gambit take responsibility BUT ONLY if he's not gonna mope about it. Let him be all "**** it, did what I had to do".

[TromaFreak64]

Does anyone get the impression we are gonna get a lot of characters cut down or killed during this whole event.... I mean did blindfold just flat out tell us some people were gonna die? I mean some of these villains can't make it back this time... Some of them need to be off'd for good like Mystique or Exodus or some others...

Regardless I'm getting pretty hype.

And someone asked earlier how Rogue is gonna wake up from her "comma" state... if its a kiss from Remmy I'm gonna kill someone.

[TromaFreak64]

PS- Sinister looks like Davey Havok

[Coldqueen]

Um, LOL.

I don't Mystique killed for good.

Though, if a character dies, I'm thinking Cyclops.

[TromaFreak64]

Maybe... but does it really matter???? I mean almost everyone comes back... so it'll just be a matter of time.

[Nature's Rising]

Amazing artwork, Choi. Amazing. Bravo!!! His the new Salvador Larroca that decided not to suck.

[Coldqueen]

Maybe... but does it really matter???? I mean almost everyone comes back... so it'll just be a matter of time.

Disappointingly true.

:ninja:

[Specter313]

Does anyone get the impression we are gonna get a lot of characters cut down or killed during this whole event.... I mean did blindfold just flat out tell us some people were gonna die? I mean some of these villains can't make it back this time... Some of them need to be off'd for good like Mystique or Exodus or some others...

Regardless I'm getting pretty hype.

And someone asked earlier how Rogue is gonna wake up from her "comma" state... if its a kiss from Remmy I'm gonna kill someone.

We only really know that one person is going to die. Blindfold only really said that people would get hurt, hence the "joining her in the infirmary" comment.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Um, LOL.

I don't Mystique killed for good.

Though, if a character dies, I'm thinking Cyclops.

You have *got* to stop living under that rock.

Geez, Bru himself talked about a Scott/Stark scene after MC.

[UraniaChang]

She has made saying that line as a hobby.

It's even futile to kill Cyclops, because he's bound to come back, same as other important characters.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

She has made saying that line as a hobby.

Well, she's not a Cyke fan, but I doubt she actively wishes him dead. I think it's more because of that 'living under a rock' thingy.

[UraniaChang]

And I do find it odd that Cyke wouldn't specifically bring Gambit up as a traitor in his rant, seeing as how the X-Men as a whole are supposed to have just found out about him being a Marauder.

Maybe Cyclops was refering to them as a whole, Gambit, Mystique, Lady Mastermind, etc, Cable's death is just what prompted him re-considering the second chance thing.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Dunno, I think there might be something to it, considering how close Gambit was to Cable when he *died*.

[iamlegend]

Dunno, I think there might be something to it, considering how close Gambit was to Cable when he *died*.

Yeah, and I think the panel was specifically drawn to focus on the "second chancers" that Cyke was worried about.

[Canemacar]

Mystique, Lady M, and Karima? Or the Marauders too since they(aberrant clones at least) lived on the lawn for a while? Either way, Gambit(or Sunfire) isn't included.

[iamlegend]

Mystique, Lady M, and Karima? Or the Marauders too since they(aberrant clones at least) lived on the lawn for a while? Either way, Gambit(or Sunfire) isn't included.

I was thinking mainly Mystique and Lady M, though I imagine Karima could be considered too...

The Marauders? Eh. Not so much. And the team's relationship with Sunfire has always been odd.

But Gambit was blatantly left out of the panel, even though he's been seen to attack multiple X-Team members, and was near Cable when he died. I find that fishy.

[Canemacar]

But Gambit was blatantly left out of the panel, even though he's been seen to attack multiple X-Team members, and was near Cable when he died. I find that fishy.

Well, no one was there for the fight with Cable. They only know about it because Sunfire was bragging about killing Cable and he didn't say anything about Gambit being there.

And Iceman didn't see Gambit with the rest of the Marauders in #203 I think. Only Sam did and he's had his mind wiped.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

And Iceman didn't see Gambit with the rest of the Marauders in #203 I think. Only Sam did and he's had his mind wiped.

Nah, Bobby did. He was there when the diaries got blown up. No way he didn't recognize Remy.

[Canemacar]

I guess it's just a plot-hole then. Theres no way they'd give him a pass considering what they did last time he worked with the Marauders.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Great, that would make one plot-hole already.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You know what, here's one last thought about Scott/Emma sending Remy as a double-agent before logging off.

I'm all for Cyke/Emma not appearing to be complete idiots, but exactly *how* would they reach the conclusion that sending off Remy would be a good idea? This isn't quite in the same league as, say, decoy diaries.

Just, what, they figured Sins hadn't been active in a while and wanted to draw him out? Cause he'd obviously go rescue his gorgeous little cajun f**k toy? :D

[Slant]

It'd be real complicated to pull of or explain, really. Especially considering the whole point of the last arc was to show that the X Men had NO clue as to what was happening, unless it goes down as a "Plan gone wrong" or something.

But using Gambit as bait to pull Sinister out would be pretty funny.

[Canemacar]

I'm all for Cyke/Emma not appearing to be complete idiots, but exactly *how* would they reach the conclusion that sending off Remy would be a good idea? This isn't quite in the same league as, say, decoy diaries.

Maybe they were just trying to get rid of him and tricking him into thinking he was important was the best way to do it?

[iamlegend]

You know what, here's one last thought about Scott/Emma sending Remy as a double-agent before logging off.

I'm all for Cyke/Emma not appearing to be complete idiots, but exactly *how* would they reach the conclusion that sending off Remy would be a good idea? This isn't quite in the same league as, say, decoy diaries.

Just, what, they figured Sins hadn't been active in a while and wanted to draw him out? Cause he'd obviously go rescue his gorgeous little cajun f**k toy? :D


Trust me, if they play that card they'd be stretching it a long ass way...

'Course, with the ability to retcon, Marvel could probably come up with something that at least made a teeny, tiny bit of sense. Even if we don't like it.

[Specter313]

Well, maybe they can finally use it as a reason for Gambit going off to join Apocalypse; Emma and/or Scott planned it. He just happened to then stumble across Sinister or something and stayed away.

[UraniaChang]

Gambit: So, you deliberately sent me to join Apocalypse?! Do you have any idea those things Apocalypse made me to do? Look at that leather costume!
Cyclops: Well, I had to find a way to pay you back for stealing my uniform and getting cigerette stench all over it. Dry cleaning isn't cheap.
Gambit: Then how come I end up being with Sinister? You planned that too?
Cyclops: No, I have no idea that he had the cosmetic surgery done and chose to come out and surprise you now.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Aww, beat me to the stolen costume joke.



Emma: Darling, we have to do something about this nonsense between the southerner maniac and the cajun snake.

Scott: *sigh* You think I don't know that? The second I try talking some sense into Rogue, I become the insensitive a$$hole and the only option with Remy would be... No, wait. The only option for both would br to beat sense into them.

Emma: We *could* send the cajun away. He wouldn't get the sympathy vote like his maniac girlfriend would.

Scott: ...I'm listening. What are we talking about here?

Emma: Brainwashing him into defecting.

Scott: And then what?

Emma: Can't quite be bothered to care about that part, darling.

Scott: Oh. Isn't that a bit harsh?

Emma: ...

Scott: Right. Bah, f**ker stole one of my uniforms. Brainwash away.

[DJSCARLET]

Cyclops: No, I have no idea that he had the cosmetic surgery done and chose to come out and surprise you now.
never has a villain looked so pretty:oldrazz:
it going to be interesting to see why scott and emma would purposely send gambit to apocalypse, wonder how the team will react when and if they find out.
if they actually did do it.

[Canemacar]

They could've just dumped his ass in Antarctica again.

[Varient]

363
Lol.

[Canemacar]

363
Lol.

Que?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Seconded. 363?

[Slant]

I think the stolen costume and the Sinister bait go hand in hand. I'd imagine that would be Sinister's dream.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I think the stolen costume and the Sinister bait go hand in hand. I'd imagine that would be Sinister's dream.

Wait, f**king Remy while he's dressed up as Cyke??? :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Slant]

Either that, or they knew changing Gambit's appearance would get Sinister's attention.

I mean, he turns into the fart-monster, and then Sinister shows up a couple of issues later? Like flies on ****.

[Varient]

Que?

363 = Laptop for "Laugh out loud"

If your laptop isn't set for typing words,.. it types numbers for words.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Could you imagine Cyke explaining the 'have Gumbo dressed up as me and it'll totally work!' scenario to Emma? :D

[UraniaChang]

Wait, f**king Remy while he's dressed up as Cyke??? :wow: :wow: :wow:

Sinister must be really desperate, or he isn't willing to go near Wolverine's territory for the original one.

[Coldqueen]

You have *got* to stop living under that rock.

Geez, Bru himself talked about a Scott/Stark scene after MC.

I was talking about what I WANT. Not what will HAPPEN.

Sheesh.:o

[Canemacar]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006179784.cfm

Some new images for #204 and a hilarious quote by Carey that shows just how big a fanboy of Mystique's he is

"And the Marauders now have Mystique in their ranks. Can you think of any female character in the X-verse who’d be more formidable or more terrifying to go up against? I can’t."

[iamlegend]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006179784.cfm

Some new images for #204 and a hilarious quote by Carey that shows just how big a fanboy of Mystique's he is

"And the Marauders now have Mystique in their ranks. Can you think of any female character in the X-verse who’d be more formidable or more terrifying to go up against? I can’t."

There are plenty of female characters in the X-Verse that could totally destroy Mystique...

If we see her become even more uber-Roxor than Carey's already writing her then I'm probably done with him.

[Canemacar]

There are plenty of female characters in the X-Verse that could totally destroy Mystique...

I guess he never heard of the Dark Phoenix Saga.

[Canemacar]

Ok, lesson for the day: Don't try and blaspheme against Carey on the CBR boards. Carey is perfect and if you don't agree, things will get nasty.

[Slant]

I really hope Sinister kills Mystique. I can dream.

[iamlegend]

I really hope Sinister kills Mystique. I can dream.

Maybe Predator X can just finish her off for us? That'd be even better. :woot:

[TromaFreak64]

Ok, lesson for the day: Don't try and blaspheme against Carey on the CBR boards. Carey is perfect and if you don't agree, things will get nasty.

Dude those are the same people who told me the number 6 subscription for Marvel and the 16th highest selling comic book, X-MEN, was going to be canceled, cause they all talk to Carey and he told them so.....

Lesson of the day 2: Don't try and discuss anything logical on the CBR boards.

[Specter313]

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Sinister and Exodus are both breathing down the necks of the X-Men with the clock counting down to the fall mega-event Messiah Complex. This week’s X-Men #204 sets the stage as “Endangered Species” careens toward a halt. Writer Mike Carey fielded six big questions about what’s going on in his X-books, as Marvel offers an exclusive glimpse of what will take place.

WIZARD: The story for issue #204 is titled as an epilogue. What’s going to be ending, and are the events in the story going to be setting any sort of tone for things to come?

CAREY: It’s an epilogue to the “Blinded By the Light” story arc, most obviously, but in another sense it’s an epilogue to everything we’ve been doing since “Supernovas.” Rogue’s team is in terminal disarray, the X-Men are reeling from the events of the past few days, and we all know something really big is about to hit the fan. So we take the opportunity to play out some of the emotional beats arising from the intense action of recent issues, touching base with Iceman, Cannonball, Cyclops, Rogue, Gambit, Mystique, Sinister and others. And yeah, it’s a prologue as well as an epilogue, because it ends with a very significant event which feeds straight into Ed’s Messiah Complex one-shot.

Who is a bigger threat right now, the Marauders or the Acolytes? And how do their plights compare to each other right now?

CAREY: Well, the scariest thing is that these two groups—each formidable in itself—have managed to join forces despite the different perspectives of their leaders and their not entirely compatible agendas. Are the Marauders or the Acolytes the bigger threat? Hard to say, but if I had to call it I’d say the Marauders: Exodus has more raw power, but Sinister is the deeper schemer, harder to read and harder to reason with. You just know that in his mind, everyone and everything is potentially expendable. There’s no safety net with this guy. And the Marauders now have Mystique in their ranks. Can you think of any female character in the X-verse who’d be more formidable or more terrifying to go up against? I can’t.

What is Blindfold’s status now? Is she totally healed and in the clear?

CAREY: She’s stable, and she’s no longer in any danger as far as her physical condition is concerned. She knew what she was doing, and although she cut it as close as it could be cut, she survived. There are a number of Blindfold beats in this issue, and again we see her looking forward to what’s about to happen. For more of Ruth’s own story, though, you’ll have to wait until next year: There are some major revelations in store there.

When are we going to find out what she woke up screaming about?

CAREY: Very soon. In fact, on Oct. 31...

Have we seen the last of Dark Beast in the “Endangered Species” storyline, or will he be showing up again in Chapter 17? If not, does he still have a role to play as things unfold?

CAREY: Dark Beast isn’t going to be playing any further role either in “Endangered Species” or in Messiah Complex. But you can bet we didn’t bring him in just for the sake of this one story: He’s back in play, and he’s got ideas of his own arising out of the little journey of discovery he’s just been on. Look to see the Doc in a major X-book in 2008.

How about Mystique and Iceman? After she spared his life with a sharp threat in #203, are the two of them going to be able to avoid one another with everything going on at the moment?

CAREY: No comment. But again, the way that relationship played out has left a number of things hanging. Mystique in particular showed an unaccustomed vulnerability at the moment when she was seeing the fulfillment of some very long-term schemes. The unfinished business will be finished, but I can’t say when or where.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006179784.cfm

[Canemacar]

I have a feeling 204 is going to leave me cold. I don't care for art and the story is going to have way too much Romy in it for me. Can someone who has their issue give me the ratio of normal pages to romy pages?

[@JeanGrey]

God...

I'm few weeks absent from SHH and you are still fighting over ROMYness :oldrazz:

Don't you ever get bored???

[Canemacar]

Nevah!!!

[Xplicit Content]

Heh, the panel of Emma patronizing Kitty is funny stuff. Choi's stuff is nice.

[DoomJester]

I wish people would just decide what lipstick color she wears, red or blue (I preffer blue) but just decide. Don't know why that irks me but it just does.

[Rogue's Hand]

Wow, I can't wait to get this :)

[UraniaChang]

When I look at Gambit, the words 'Richard Gere' just pop into my head.


Ok, lesson for the day: Don't try and blaspheme against Carey on the CBR boards. Carey is perfect and if you don't agree, things will get nasty.

Does that mean I should worship Whedon even more since his book sells far better than Carey's?

I wish people would just decide what lipstick color she wears, red or blue (I preffer blue) but just decide. Don't know why that irks me but it just does.

What, don't you know some girls have about as many different lipsticks as their shoes? :oldrazz:

[Canemacar]

When I look at Gambit, the words 'Richard Gere' just pop into my head.


Which reminds me of this article:

http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-gambit-sucks.html

[OutcryX]

with BOTH Gambit and Sinister looking awfully purdy these days....I cant see one doing the other...I CAN see them both with their arses in the air, serving it up to Scalphunter...or Mystique

[Xmenfan527]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/829/829292p1.html

ign has advance review of 204 they gave it an 8.3

[DJSCARLET]

When I look at Gambit, the words 'Richard Gere' just pop into my head.

mmmmm...dont matter how old he is that man is fine!:heart:
(dont like chick flicks, i just like to look at him when he's in the magazines)

Which reminds me of this article:

http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/200...bit-sucks.html (http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-gambit-sucks.html)

my friend and i were talking about how a lot of guys are starting to hate gambit (only a handfull of girls get annoyed by him), her reason: they're just jealous because a comic character is more hotter than they are.

[OutcryX]

yeah....'more hotter'

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Heh, the panel of Emma patronizing Kitty is funny stuff. Choi's stuff is nice.

That one's a howler.

It totally conveys the whole "Great, the brat's whining again" vibe. Which totally is what Emma thinks. :D

[UraniaChang]

mmmmm...dont matter how old he is that man is fine!:heart:
(dont like chick flicks, i just like to look at him when he's in the magazines)

my friend and i were talking about how a lot of guys are starting to hate gambit (only a handfull of girls get annoyed by him), her reason: they're just jealous because a comic character is more hotter than they are.

I like Gambit as a comic character, but honestly I don't find him attractive at all, he's just simply not my type.

[Canemacar]

my friend and i were talking about how a lot of guys are starting to hate gambit (only a handfull of girls get annoyed by him), her reason: they're just jealous because a comic character is more hotter than they are.

It's not that. Though I'm sure some of them don't like him because he reminds them of the alpha males who bullied them and got the girls in high school.

The reason most guys don't like Gambit is that he's been made to appeal more to women than guys and men an women like very different things. Pretty boy looks, faux-bad boy persona, super-ridiculous devotion to a woman, giving up sex for her, etc. Guys don't like all that stuff.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The reason most guys don't like Gambit is that he's been made to appeal more to women than guys and men an women like very different things.

Amen.


Pretty boy looks, faux-bad boy persona, super-ridiculous devotion to a woman, giving up sex for her, etc. Guys don't like all that stuff.
Translation: guys don't like the sickenly cute. Fluff with a twinkle in the eye we can actually deal with. Full-blown melodrama. Eeesh.

[Coldqueen]

I like sickenly cute.

I'm...*gasp*...excited about teh ROMY. I love me some ROMY and if they're not gonna move on they might as well be torturing each other with angst.

[Silver Phoenix]

God...

I'm few weeks absent from SHH and you are still fighting over ROMYness :oldrazz:

Don't you ever get bored???

LOL Bored with that?Nah...:p

And the full pages of #204 look nice...siiiiigh 2 more weeks till it gets to Greece!!!*sighs more*

PS:Yay for the lovely Thessaloniki!!!;)I love that city!!!

[UraniaChang]

Guys don't like male characters completely built around a relationship, can't blame them, after all, we're reading superhero comics, not romances.

[Coldqueen]

Oh, and...before I forget...

Goddamn Sin is looking good. Let's get HIM a hookup.

Anyone else seeing Mystique/Sin?

[Varient]

with BOTH Gambit and Sinister looking awfully purdy these days....I cant see one doing the other...I CAN see them both with their arses in the air, serving it up to Scalphunter...or Mystique

Meh,..

Now why if i had typed the same thing but substituted oh,... Kitty Pryde and Betsy Braddock for Gambit and Sinister, that I could expect at the least a PTM fm a moderator telling me to watch it and at worst be banned for a coupla days?


I swear the double standard in place,............

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I like sickenly cute.

Well, you're a girl. Hetero, too, if I'm not mistaken. You're genetically more prone to liking that sort of stuff.

Anyone else seeing Mystique/Sin?

Sins offing Blue, maybe.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Now why if i had typed the same thing but substituted oh,... Kitty Pryde and Betsy Braddock for Gambit and Sinister, that I could expect at the least a PTM fm a moderator telling me to watch it and at worst be banned for a coupla days?

And to think that's rather mild for good ol' OutcryX.

[Canemacar]

Well, you're a girl. Hetero, too, if I'm not mistaken.

I wouldn't be so sure(from the Gambit thread):


And if you're flirting with me, Neptune...

Continue.

Seconded! :woot:

...dude, CanCan, stay out of the flirty conversation.

Hahah,I like you already. Let's continue this in my supervillain headquarters cherie. :cwink:

*runs away with Neptune*

*gives CanCan the bird*


:woot:

[DJSCARLET]

can is just sour bcuz she gave him the bird.and is more attracted to gambit :woot::woot:
i can only compare ROMY to meredith and derek's relationship in grey's anatomy. guy likes girl, girl sort of likes guy, goes through a whole mess before girl takes guy. and blah blah blah. now...guy is just panting for girl to take him back.
choi's art looks kind of odd, wish salvador was doing it instead.

[Varient]

And to think that's rather mild for good ol' OutcryX.

Which is of course part of my point.

Man makes such comments about women on a board where it is a good chance younger folk are reading,...

And he will be considered crossing the line in his reducing women to meat.

But........ if we are talking gay action and get descriptive,.. it's all good.


Tsk.

[OutcryX]

Which is of course part of my point.

Man makes such comments about women on a board where it is a good chance younger folk are reading,...

And he will be considered crossing the line in his reducing women to meat.

But........ if we are talking gay action and get descriptive,.. it's all good.


Tsk.

Umm..how bout you lighten the hell up. Dont come for me and I wont come for you...besides..kids dont read comics anymore

[Varient]

Umm..how bout you lighten the hell up. Dont come for me and I wont come for you...besides..kids dont read comics anymore

I'll remind the kids who come into the comic store next weekend, (I watch a store two weekends amonth so a father can do his visatation with his daughter.)

The attitude that it's okay to be wrong because you wanna be and "it doesn't matter" is not a new tune. It's always the first thing that someone who knows better says when they are caught out.

You see my taking offense at this double standard as "coming for you?"

Please.

This is not the first time I've taken offense at someone being crude on here because they think it's "great fun" or "clever" to be crude.


So get a grip and understand where this comes from - YOU can talk about homosexual sex on this board cause folk don't wanna hurt your feelings, Most hetro's cannot because it easily offends folk who would rather not have people reduced like you get a free ticket to.


V.

[Canemacar]

I take offense at that! Outcry is an equal opportunity crudist! He makes off color jokes about gays and straights!

[Varient]

I take offense at that! Outcry is an equal opportunity crudist! He makes off color jokes about gays and straights!

Interesting.

I've not read ANYTHING on the straight side from him as bad as the last thing that got a reaction from me.

If U find the time,.. post a link.

[OutcryX]

I take offense at that! Outcry is an equal opportunity crudist! He makes off color jokes about gays and straights!

i really do...gays are more fun though. oh well. also. I try not to pay attention to anything Varient says. he isnt worth the time for a response...BUT..see my next post

[OutcryX]

Interesting.

I've not read ANYTHING on the straight side from him as bad as the last thing that got a reaction from me.

If U find the time,.. post a link.


just because i havent posted something RECENTLY demeaning heterosexuals in a crude and funny way doesn't mean that i havent...however..if you really want to wade through all the pages of the MANY threads i post in..have at it

back to ignoring you now.

[aaron]

choi's art is talented but boring :(

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I take offense at that! Outcry is an equal opportunity crudist! He makes off color jokes about gays and straights!

Seconded.

Outcry's an equal opportunity demented mock-perv.

The only reason there are more jokes involving slash couples is usually because fun at odd pairings. Or say, the ones that totally were there only editors wussed out.

[OutcryX]

Seconded.

Outcry's an equal opportunity demented mock-perv.

The only reason there are more jokes involving slash couples is usually because fun at odd pairings. Or say, the ones that totally were there only editors wussed out.

'preciate the support..*sniff, sniff* people like me, they really like me...well, most people anywayz :woot:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

My pleasure.

Really, it baffles me how someone could just ignore the genuinely clever vibe of some of your... eh... insightful comments.

Really, an idiotic actual perv couldn't come up with some of these scenarios.

[OutcryX]

honestly. as i told Canopener before...I only post serious thought provoking comments in hopes of getting a dialogue going about the state of mutant affairs in today's X-World........
........
...........
:)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I remember that. :p

Was a howler. :D

[Varient]

i really do...gays are more fun though. oh well. also. I try not to pay attention to anything Varient says. he isnt worth the time for a response...BUT..see my next post

Well that was childish,.. Fine,.. Please all of you who are this simple please ignore the one with a differing opinion.

Geez another one for the "I'm gonna be a ***** so let me be a *****" - no wonder the worlds going to hell.

[Varient]

just because i havent posted something RECENTLY demeaning heterosexuals in a crude and funny way doesn't mean that i havent...however..if you really want to wade through all the pages of the MANY threads i post in..have at it

back to ignoring you now.
I said something,.. he defended you,. I gave him a chance to change my mind and you come on like a lil kid,.. No thank you- I'm sure based on your responses that my first impression is probably correct.

I'm sure your "ignoring sumbody" is supposed to mean something in a world where the majority of your interactions are online - Chuckle - please do your online version of "I'm not talking to you."


(open Laughter - trip how you quickly find out who the mature ones are.)


V.

[iamlegend]

I said something,.. he defended you,. I gave him a chance to change my mind and you come on like a lil kid,.. No thank you- I'm sure based on your responses that my first impression is probably correct.

I'm sure your "ignoring sumbody" is supposed to mean something in a world where the majority of your interactions are online - Chuckle - please do your online version of "I'm not talking to you."


(open Laughter - trip how you quickly find out who the mature ones are.)


V.

Chill out.

You obviously don't like what Outcry has to say, and that's fine. But a number of people who frequent this board enjoy the humor, silly though it may be.

If you don't like it, just ignore it. Skip the post when you see that username. Do what you have to do.

But don't resort to ridiculous insults that imply that you're a better person than Outcry or something. It's a damn internet message board. Let **** go.

[Varient]

Chill out.

You obviously don't like what Outcry has to say, and that's fine. But a number of people who frequent this board enjoy the humor, silly though it may be.

If you don't like it, just ignore it. Skip the post when you see that username. Do what you have to do.

But don't resort to ridiculous insults that imply that you're a better person than Outcry or something. It's a damn internet message board. Let **** go.

This is the funny part:

I'm not even looking at who's posting it until they get up on a high horse for sumbody not laughing along.

Take a second and read the entire thing again - I commented on the patent double standard here on SuperHeroHype,.. you can see post after post on here that are downright graphic as far as homosexual behavior and it's getting old.

Someone commented and I expanded on it.

Your hero came back with a warning that was uncalled for and ended it with something I know to be untrue.

Right now I have lil kids, teens and Parents w/their kids coming in and starting them on comic collections.
.

COMICS.
.
Two years ago in addition to pointing them to the Marvel / DC / and Antarctic press websites,.. I would also point them to SuperHeroHype to put them with folk who are interested in the same thing,.. COMICS.
.
Two years ago,.. you would have to look hard to find this level of crudity on the comic boards - There were other parts of the hype that had it,.. but not on a board with INNOCENT convo on what was next in the X-men.
.

I'm happy for you that because you enjoy this brand of humor that you can put the fact that is offensive all on me because I have a glaring reason why I can't point computer savy kids here and don't like it.

.
I realize that I am seen in the wrong because I can imagine a child asking a parent why an X-man would need a dental dam in their behind?

.
I was ready to drop this at the moment he told me who reads comics and that I should drop it "or else".
.

Yeah,.. that was mature too.
.

Well thank you for your response. Instead of pointing it out here in the hope that MAYBE there would be folk (read children) who would be coming here to talk comics and not get hit with what I'm typing about,.. I'll just continue to steer them to websites with more control over what people consider humor.


After all - this is "THE OFFICIAL X-MEN Discussion Thread" Talk about a blindside,.....
.
V.

[TromaFreak64]

get this thread on topic NOW

[Coldqueen]

I wouldn't be so sure...

:woot:

:dry:

Are you implying something?

(Dude, isn't Neptune a dude?)

get this thread on topic NOW

Yeah, seriously.

I said DERAIL the thread, not cause the thread to crash and burn.

Big difference.

(Though on a side note, CanCan and my dalliance at the top of this page is in fact mocking my heterosexuality.)

[Colossal Spoons]

I appear to have missed the flirting

[Xmenfan527]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/827/827571/x-men-messiah-complex-one-shot-20071023082221695-000.jpg (http://media.comics.ign.com/media/944/944221/img_5000438.html)

[Varient]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/827/827571/x-men-messiah-complex-one-shot-20071023082221695-000.jpg (http://media.comics.ign.com/media/944/944221/img_5000438.html)

Nice pic,...Thank you.

(copy to my harddrive for screensaver.)

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

:dry:

Yeah, seriously.

I said DERAIL the thread, not cause the thread to crash and burn.

Big difference.

Hey, it wasn't out idea to start this feud.

And please, you really think you'll have that much to say about #204?

Cause we can't see the "OMG, Rogue just wake up yet" complaining coming miles away. :D