Official X-MEN: LEGACY Discussion Thread

[Xplicit Content]

J. Scott Campbell draws Emma. I just had a geekasm.

[UraniaChang]

Wow, I think Deathstrike goes soft on the kids.

[spectre]

she stabbed hellion through and through and now shes cuttin rockslide apart piece by piece. how's that soft?

also i get that nightcralwer, colossus, storm, angel, and wolverine are some of the top-tier x-men but i still think its a little unlikely that they'd be able to take on the marauders and the acolytes on their own, even with emma's help.

[Rogue's Hand]

Where is my dear Rogue and when will she fight again :csad:

[Jake Cassidy]

I would've like to have seen Angel take on the Marauders when he had his metal wings. He'd tear them apart. :woot:

I also love how Angel is the one confronting Sinister. He's the least powerful X-Man there. Balls of ****ing steel. :woot:

[UraniaChang]

she stabbed hellion through and through and now shes cuttin rockslide apart piece by piece. how's that soft?

also i get that nightcralwer, colossus, storm, angel, and wolverine are some of the top-tier x-men but i still think its a little unlikely that they'd be able to take on the marauders and the acolytes on their own, even with emma's help.

She didn't slice and dice Hellion into pieces when she got the chance and then picked the last one she should be wasting her time on killing, it's SOFT imo.

[squeekness]

Oh, I dunno. Helion can really pack a punch, he's no softie. I mighta picked him first to be taken out myself. Telekines can be quite dangerous.

[iamlegend]

Oh, I dunno. Helion can really pack a punch, he's no softie. I mighta picked him first to be taken out myself. Telekines can be quite dangerous.

Exactly. If Hellion pushed his power levels a little, he could toss Lady D right through a wall... without ever getting within range of her claws.

Hence, he gets stabbed first. In the back.

[mjdiddy1]

So Cable has the baby...I thought he was dead or in some other time

[OutcryX]

i just love how u come from nowhere and post spoilers....without support..POST images next time

[Canemacar]

i just love how u come from nowhere and post spoilers....without support..POST images next time

Funny you should say that. I just happen to have THIS on my clipboard:

http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

*squeal*

[Rogue's Hand]

Funny you should say that. I just happen to have THIS on my clipboard:

http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg
Yeah I just scanned that and posted it on another site. Your welcome :ninja: :hyper:

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't wait to hear the explanation behind this one :D

[Slant]

You know, thats a pretty big baby, considering when it was born.

[Canemacar]

Yeah I just scanned that and posted it on another site. Your welcome :ninja: :hyper:

Wintermute's got nothing on me.

[aaron]

dick

[Canemacar]

Hand, you have anymore scans?

[Colossal Spoons]

You know, thats a pretty big baby, considering when it was born.

I hope this has nothing to do with that weird couple of months in Cable&Deadpool when Cable got de-aged

[Rogue's Hand]

I can scan the entire freakin' book, LOL. I have it right in front of me :)

[Colossal Spoons]

Magic?

[Canemacar]

I can scan the entire freakin' book, LOL. I have it right in front of me

Could you post the part where Gambit "becomes the official X-Men tennis ball"?

[Colossal Spoons]

Could you post the part where Gambit "becomes the official X-Men tennis ball"?

This makes me :D

[Rogue's Hand]

Could you post the part where Gambit "becomes the official X-Men tennis ball"?
What scene? Where Wolvie deals with him :huh:

[Canemacar]

What scene? Where Wolvie deals with him :huh:

Does Gambit do anything else? :woot:

[Slant]

Does Gambit do anything else? :woot:

Here's one. Not with Gambit.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2455/205scan9ws3.jpg

[Canemacar]

I've always wondered: How the hell does the robot get it's face so close to the window like that? It can't bend that well.

[spark627]

were there no comics this week? my shop didn't have anything new

[Colossal Spoons]

Thanksgiving pushed them back to tomorrow

[Varient]

Funny you should say that. I just happen to have THIS on my clipboard:

http://i4.tinypic.com/8e9o3fn.jpg

thats cable?


(I'm outta touch,... no transmode virus?)

[spectre]

well he recently "died" when he activated the self-destruct mode on his island city of providence. he did this because gambit and sunfire attacked looking for a file having to do with the phrase "one minute before dawn." instead of letting them get the file he destroyed the island, dying in the blast.

[Colossal Spoons]

Holy crap! I didn't even notice he was virus-less. Maybe he has his telekinesis back to full strength. Hell maybe he's back to his Burnt Offering power level! :D

[squeekness]

were there no comics this week? my shop didn't have anything new

Thanksgiving pushed them back to tomorrowOh, I thought it was just my place that was behind. Now I don't feel so bad. :p

[Colossal Spoons]

I asked my comic guy what holiday caused the delay(as there's not really one this week) and like a smartass he goes "You know that one, with the turkey and the giving thanks..."


:cmad:

[Xplicit Content]

I'm slowly starting to see why people think the baby is Jean...seeing Cable with the baby and all.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd forgotten about the Jean possibility

[squeekness]

well he recently "died" when he activated the self-destruct mode on his island city of providence. he did this because gambit and sunfire attacked looking for a file having to do with the phrase "one minute before dawn." instead of letting them get the file he destroyed the island, dying in the blast.Does make you wonder -- Gambit said that line about midnight and it made Cable self destruct his ship and yet, here's Cable with the kid saying the same line, sorta. What if there was some sort of pre-arranged thing that Gambit was in on that when he said that line, tipped Cable off about the kid, therefore Gambit is a spy and still working for the good guys. Just sayin... :p

[Colossal Spoons]

You really want to believe in him, huh Squeek? lol

[squeekness]

You really want to believe in him, huh Squeek? lol
I do! I do! :p I don't want him to be killded and I don't want him to be a jerk. :( He needs to stick around so someone can actually turn around and write him decently.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think he'll be back on a team with Rogue by early next year

[squeekness]

I can only hope. :p

[Canemacar]

I think he'll be back on a team with Rogue by early next year

Of course, no one's going to want anything to do with him if Carey keeps writing him like a complete tool.

[GambitXremy]

does any one remember before gambit turned into death, he had a talk with emma about something?

[iamlegend]

Does make you wonder -- Gambit said that line about midnight and it made Cable self destruct his ship and yet, here's Cable with the kid saying the same line, sorta. What if there was some sort of pre-arranged thing that Gambit was in on that when he said that line, tipped Cable off about the kid, therefore Gambit is a spy and still working for the good guys. Just sayin... :p

Well, the way I see it, it's going to be Cable that vindicates Gambit, so to speak. Gambit did use the one minute before dawn thing in front of Cable... and unless Carey's writing Gambit was a complete idiot (which I'm actually starting to believe) then it had to be a hint from Gambit to Cable about the upcoming event.

Thus, Cable will make it plain that Gambit was the one who made sure he wound up with the baby.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hopefully Sunfire quits being a villain soon too

[Slant]

I don't think Sunfire has spoken since getting his ass kicked by Cannonball.

It doesn't look good for him.

[Colossal Spoons]

True :(

[Canemacar]

Here are some scans of 205 courtesy of scans daily:


Why does the future always have to be dystopian?
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1963/205scan1pi3.jpg



X-23 looks hilarious in that last panel.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6033/205scan3vu1.jpg



This is where things go south for the X-men.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9181/205scan4yj6.jpg



Sinister administers a righteous ass-kicking.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7973/205scan5ia4.jpg



Storm does her best Thor impression.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8858/205scan6iz0.jpg



There's always that one guy who takes practical jokes way too seriously...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1195/205scan7fw3.jpg



When I saw the pilot in the last panel, the phrase "*******" came to mind.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4642/205scan8dz5.jpg

[OutcryX]

damn....this looks like an awesome event

[mjdiddy1]

i just love how u come from nowhere and post spoilers....without support..POST images next time

There's your proof

[squeekness]

Well, I read #205 and while it was good, they didn't say if Gambit walked away from being skwered or not. :mad:

[OutcryX]

There's your proof

yeah. thanks to cancan...not YOU who originally spilled the basket of bread.

[Rogue's Hand]

yeah. thanks to cancan...not YOU who originally spilled the basket of bread.Actually, thanks to me. I scanned the image :woot:

[OutcryX]

Actually, thanks to me. I scanned the image :woot:


well. thanks to Rogue's Hand who originally scanned the image...now scan more...lol

[Rogue's Hand]

well. thanks to Rogue's Hand who originally scanned the image...now scan more...lol
Most of the pages are leaked already. Are there any that haven't? If so, I'll be more then glad to scan some more :woot:

[squeekness]

I keep thinking to something Scott said in #205 .....

Scott was all whining and crap about how Gambit was so inconsiderate not to drop them a line saying he was still alive. It really burns me. I mean, Polaris was taken by Apocolypse too and afterwards the Xs sent folks to go look for her. No one looked for Gambit. Why would he tell them he was alive? It's not like they even gave a crap, not from what I could see. No, they let Mystique come into the house and practically drive him out without efven backing him up and then they acted all surprised that he left. I mean, geez... Why should Gambit even want to talk to these guys again... like ever? :mad:

[mjdiddy1]

Hey Outcry...the bread was good though wasn't it. I get my stuff a few days ahead so I'll scan it for you guys next time or just keep it to myself like the fact that the baby is....just kidding

[iamlegend]

I keep thinking to something Scott said in #205 .....

Scott was all whining and crap about how Gambit was so inconsiderate not to drop them a line saying he was still alive. It really burns me. I mean, Polaris was taken by Apocolypse too and afterwards the Xs sent folks to go look for her. No one looked for Gambit. Why would he tell them he was alive? It's not like they even gave a crap, not from what I could see. No, they let Mystique come into the house and practically drive him out without efven backing him up and then they acted all surprised that he left. I mean, geez... Why should Gambit even want to talk to these guys again... like ever? :mad:


Uhhh, I think you got it wrong.

I was under the impression that...

Cable

Was who Scott was talking about when he said all that.

[Canemacar]

Most of the pages are leaked already. Are there any that haven't? If so, I'll be more then glad to scan some more :woot:

I think we're missing some of the fight scene. Can you fill in the blanks?

[UraniaChang]

I keep thinking to something Scott said in #205 .....

Scott was all whining and crap about how Gambit was so inconsiderate not to drop them a line saying he was still alive. It really burns me. I mean, Polaris was taken by Apocolypse too and afterwards the Xs sent folks to go look for her. No one looked for Gambit. Why would he tell them he was alive? It's not like they even gave a crap, not from what I could see. No, they let Mystique come into the house and practically drive him out without efven backing him up and then they acted all surprised that he left. I mean, geez... Why should Gambit even want to talk to these guys again... like ever? :mad:

My first thought was that he was refering to him as well and thought it made no sense, but then someone explained to me that it was actually Cable.

[GambitXremy]

Ya it was cable that- cyke was talking about and damn wouldn't you be mad if you thought your son was died but in fact he was really alive and didn't tell you. and topping that he has the baby that everyones fighting for..?

[squeekness]

My first thought was that he was refering to him as well and thought it made no sense, but then someone explained to me that it was actually Cable.Oh, okay. See, that makes more sense, seeing as how no one on the team gave a toss when Remy left anyhow... :( :mad:

[UraniaChang]

I still stand by the theory of Gambit being a double agent sent by Scott (and Emma), until I'm proved otherwise. Because I can't figure out one single reason why would he stay with Sinister's bunch but not want to fight the X-Men.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I still stand by the theory of Gambit being a double agent sent by Scott (and Emma), until I'm proved otherwise. Because I can't figure out one single reason why would he stay with Sinister's bunch but not want to fight the X-Men.

I can't figure out one single reason why Sinister wouldn't NOTICE how Gambit sucks as a current bad guy.

[UraniaChang]

Sinister is keeping Gambit for one purpose only- role paly!

[squeekness]

I still stand by the theory of Gambit being a double agent sent by Scott (and Emma), until I'm proved otherwise. Because I can't figure out one single reason why would he stay with Sinister's bunch but not want to fight the X-Men.Same here and it would clean up Milligan's mess. If they don't do it, or some version thereof, then it was a good opportunity wasted to tell a cool story. :(

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Sinister is keeping Gambit for one purpose only- role paly!

You know, the more I look at that Cerebra knockoff, the more I question whether Sins currently needs anyone for that.

Those tube thingies looked suspiciously like tentacles. Just saying.

[OutcryX]

I can't figure out one single reason why Sinister wouldn't NOTICE how Gambit sucks as a current bad guy.


Sinister has other intentions for Gambit...pitching and catching....and I aint talking about baseball practice

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Sinister has other intentions for Gambit...pitching and catching....and I aint talking about baseball practice

Yeah, I know, but Sins has these tentacles thingies to play with. I did mention I'm not quite sure of what to make of that piece of intel.

[UraniaChang]

But I think they should have let Gambit put up with a good fight with Wolverine, it would be more convincing for his role, look better when he lost and it's not that Logan couldn't take a few explosives.

[UraniaChang]

Yeah, I know, but Sins has these tentacles thingies to play with. I did mention I'm not quite sure of what to make of that piece of intel.

I think he would want to use those tentacles on someone else and watch...

Can't believe I'm saying this.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Ok, this has to be said. Way earlier in the year, and sometime last year, I expressed how much I hate ROMY. (Really, do we need the pet names?) Anyway, Really, they seem to suck together, and I know how much I love Rogue solo. Saying that, I grew up with them being together (X-men TAS) It was cute growing up. Then when I got into comics in 2004-05, Gambit sickened me. He seemed like a cheating ass-mutt. Then he became Death (Was it death?) And tried to kill Rogue. Yeah, that killed the character for me right there. And I was fine with Gambit just being away.

Now, I read 204 and thought Nothing in it. I was just into the pretty pictures and thought Raven looked hella hot! (Red heads are kool.) For some reason, last night, I reread 204, and I read the Gambit/Rougue scene... it was beatiful. I mean, Gambit was actually tearing up (Like a little *****) And that's when I realized that he cares for our girl rogue. Oh, then the flashback splash almost had me in tears. They been through so much ****. They're relationship is more than pointless, but they don't care. So what if they can't touch? it's more than that. It's love.

I want them ok. I'll be fine with them together. I don't want either to die because that would suck. (and I had a dream Remy died in MC, and Rogue wore his Jacket because of it.) Rogue seriously better be ok. I'm worried about her. :heart:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I think he would want to use those tentacles on someone else and watch...

Can't believe I'm saying this.

LMAO. From creepy to creepier, eh?

Gotta give you props for being consistent if anything.

[Canemacar]

Ok, this has to be said. Way earlier in the year, and sometime last year, I expressed how much I hate ROMY. (Really, do we need the pet names?) Anyway, Really, they seem to suck together, and I know how much I love Rogue solo. Saying that, I grew up with them being together (X-men TAS) It was cute growing up. Then when I got into comics in 2004-05, Gambit sickened me. He seemed like a cheating ass-mutt. Then he became Death (Was it death?) And tried to kill Rogue. Yeah, that killed the character for me right there. And I was fine with Gambit just being away.

Now, I read 204 and thought Nothing in it. I was just into the pretty pictures and thought Raven looked hella hot! (Red heads are kool.) For some reason, last night, I reread 204, and I read the Gambit/Rougue scene... it was beatiful. I mean, Gambit was actually tearing up (Like a little *****) And that's when I realized that he cares for our girl rogue. Oh, then the flashback splash almost had me in tears. They been through so much ****. They're relationship is more than pointless, but they don't care. So what if they can't touch? it's more than that. It's love.

I want them ok. I'll be fine with them together. I don't want either to die because that would suck. (and I had a dream Remy died in MC, and Rogue wore his Jacket because of it.) Rogue seriously better be ok. I'm worried about her. :heart:


....Just how much weed did you smoke before reading? :ninja:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I say it was mostly the art for that montage thingy.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

....Just how much weed did you smoke before reading? :ninja:
Sadly, I don't smoke. :csad: Seems like a good habit to pick up, though.:up:

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I say it was mostly the art for that montage thingy.
That was awesome... and creepy with the other people in her mind saying god knows WTF.

[UraniaChang]

Ok, this has to be said. Way earlier in the year, and sometime last year, I expressed how much I hate ROMY. (Really, do we need the pet names?) Anyway, Really, they seem to suck together, and I know how much I love Rogue solo. Saying that, I grew up with them being together (X-men TAS) It was cute growing up. Then when I got into comics in 2004-05, Gambit sickened me. He seemed like a cheating ass-mutt. Then he became Death (Was it death?) And tried to kill Rogue. Yeah, that killed the character for me right there. And I was fine with Gambit just being away.

Now, I read 204 and thought Nothing in it. I was just into the pretty pictures and thought Raven looked hella hot! (Red heads are kool.) For some reason, last night, I reread 204, and I read the Gambit/Rougue scene... it was beatiful. I mean, Gambit was actually tearing up (Like a little *****) And that's when I realized that he cares for our girl rogue. Oh, then the flashback splash almost had me in tears. They been through so much ****. They're relationship is more than pointless, but they don't care. So what if they can't touch? it's more than that. It's love.

I want them ok. I'll be fine with them together. I don't want either to die because that would suck. (and I had a dream Remy died in MC, and Rogue wore his Jacket because of it.) Rogue seriously better be ok. I'm worried about her. :heart:

Oh, God, they are like X-Men style Romeo and Juliet but neither of them are willing to die and get the story proceed.

[squeekness]

Gambit has always cared for Rogue, not that she would ever stop to notice. See Rogue thinks her problem is about touching when it isn't. It's not like ROMY got any better when they could touch. No, Rogue's problem is trust and she always held Gambit back, stringing him along just enough that he'd follow her around all cute. She left him in a flash when ol' Joseph showed up, and even then she kinda strung Joe around, too. Yeah these two have a history together but there comes a time to recognize when you've beaten a dead horse to death and it's time to move on. He needs to find someone better.

[spiderfan85]

All I can say about their relationship is, it is what it is. They have weird a relationship but as long as it has a strong following then Marvel will continue to run with it.

[Varient]

Gambit has always cared for Rogue, not that she would ever stop to notice. See Rogue thinks her problem is about touching when it isn't. It's not like ROMY got any better when they could touch. No, Rogue's problem is trust and she always held Gambit back, stringing him along just enough that he'd follow her around all cute. She left him in a flash when ol' Joseph showed up, and even then she kinda strung Joe around, too. Yeah these two have a history together but there comes a time to recognize when you've beaten a dead horse to death and it's time to move on. He needs to find someone better.

harsh.

When she lost her powers it was all about domestic bliss in the mutant coastal town.

I don't like the fact that the writers don't let the characters grow. Rogue was in better shape mentally back when she first joined the Xmen. Writers seem to prefer her as a basket case wannabe *****.

Meh.

And Gambit? For me "bad Boy" 24 / 7 gets real old for me,.... just like "Bad Girl" does.

People just are not that one dimensional.

V.:dry:

[squeekness]

I never found Gambit one dimensional. He gives off an image that hides what's really there. And honestly, when has he been a bad boy lately? I have to agree with CanCan that Remy was pretty domesticated as of late, as though the writers just aren't sure what to do with him. It wasn't always this way. When he was sweating what he'd done to the Morlocks it showed he wasn't so cold.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

All I can say about their relationship is, it is what it is. They have weird a relationship but as long as it has a strong following then Marvel will continue to run with it.

...Pete and MJ? Scott and Jean?

[squeekness]

Yeah, nothing is sacred anymore. :(

[spiderfan85]

...Pete and MJ? Scott and Jean?

You know what's funny, I was thinking about them when I wrote my last post. I will never figure out how Q could break up MJ and Pete. That's like the ultimate couple of Marvel. Jean and Scott on the other hand, I guess got old. I'm not really sure about them. They were great in the beginning then Scott started cheating on her so I don't know.

[squeekness]

Well, statistically these long term relationships rarely go forward even in real life. Now take couples under stress. It's not so inconceveiable that they would eventually fall apart. :(

[spiderfan85]

Are there ever happy couples in Marvel? I mean they get together one issue and the next they cheat on one another or something.

[squeekness]

*tries to think* Sue and Reed?

[spark627]

You know what's funny, I was thinking about them when I wrote my last post. I will never figure out how Q could break up MJ and Pete. That's like the ultimate couple of Marvel. Jean and Scott on the other hand, I guess got old. I'm not really sure about them. They were great in the beginning then Scott started cheating on her so I don't know.


what pisses me off is that he never really had to deal with the fact that he cheated. he cheated with emma, jean died and he got to be with emma, it was too easy for him.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

what pisses me off is that he never really had to deal with the fact that he cheated. he cheated with emma, jean died and he got to be with emma, it was too easy for him.

Not saying Cyke was right to cheat, but, really, considering how she wouldn't let go of Wolvie even though she was with Cyke, I say f**k Jean.

She's had it easy for YEARS.

[Varient]

Are there ever happy couples in Marvel? I mean they get together one issue and the next they cheat on one another or something.

yes.

and with the exception of Reed and Sue,.. they are all homosexual relationships.


Sigh.:dry:

[OutcryX]

trying to think of all the rampant happy gay relationships...wiccan and hulkling...thats one...who else is there?

[Specter313]

Well, there's Quasar and Moondragon, and I guess to an extent, Karolina and Xavin.

[OutcryX]

Well, there's Quasar and Moondragon, and I guess to an extent, Karolina and Xavin.

Quasar is gay?!?! ftw?? when did that happen? oh wait...isnt Quasar a girl now? ftw?? when did THAT happen? oh..and who are Karolina and Xavin?

as far as str8 happy couples...Storm and BP still count.

[bengan]

Well, there's Quasar and Moondragon, and I guess to an extent, Karolina and Xavin.
Quasar is a man, Moondragon is female, how does that make it "gay"?

[gothicFLAVOURS]

Quasar is a woman right now, Phyla-Vell, the last Captain Marvel.

[Varient]

Quasar is gay?!?! ftw?? when did that happen? oh wait...isnt Quasar a girl now? ftw?? when did THAT happen? oh..and who are Karolina and Xavin?

as far as str8 happy couples...Storm and BP still count.

Really?

The last issue of FF showed an excuse for them to fall apart,... The current run in X-men strains credibility that Ororo Monroe would be allowed to go into danger of that level w/o Wakanda being in the mix somewhere.

I don't care how "Open" a relationship two people may have,... you don't see any other married male letting their wife mix it up with the marauders and Morlocks and almost get killed (looking over the last two months) Three times?

Oh PLEASE. I would be considered six kinds of FOOL if I married a woman and then she died a month later in combat in a situation that I was not barred from.

Add to that - SHE's NOW THE QUEEN OF WAKANDA with resources that bottom line means she could've wiped Sinister off the Map with Wakandian TECH.

Only DOOM would be an issue to Wakanda because his country is on a Par with them.

The ONLY explanation I have for this departure from reality is the fact that Marvel has no intention of keeping them together.


Rant over.
:dry:

[Varient]

Quasar is a man, Moondragon is female, how does that make it "gay"?

Heh I wish.

Sorry,.. sore subject with me that the person most needed to be turned over a knee and spanked on EVERY super team she's been on,... who when she showed an interest in a man was abrasive and rude to a fault,.... could be in a loving sickeningly sweet relationship with the current Quasar who happens to be female,... Like every other reported homosexual relationship in Marvel.

Even Xi'an Coy Manh who is openly dating women as she had a non-superhero occupation was having no drama in her life like dating hetro's.

There's too many examples in the Marvel Universe that Males and females can't be happy together,..... but Males and Males and Females and Females have no issues within their relationships.

Heck,... Look what they did with Blink.

Any STABLE relationship between hetro's in Marvel Don't last.

[Valechan]

Any STABLE relationship between hetro's in Marvel Don't last.

And we all love Marvel for it :D down with the straightys :p

[spectre]

Is anybody else surprised about the treatment of Gambit in Messiah Complex so far? I mean Carey's been saying he'd come back in a huge way and so far he really hasn't done much. He's fawned over a comatose Rogue and gotten his ass handed to him by Wolverine.

This lack of development leads me to believe that Gambit's got an ace up his sleeve (sorry couldn't resist). The evidence? His role in the Cable's death; Cable noted that Remy's trademark accent sounded forced, and it was also Gambit who first said the "one minute to dawn" phrase. And just recently how the hell did Gambit know that Cable had the kid?

My conclusion? Gambit is in league with Cable and the only reason he's on the Marauders was because he wanted to keep Rogue safe. I also believe that at some point it'll be revealed that Gambit is Sinister's son. This was hinted at way back when Gambit became Death and I've just been waiting for them to come out and say it.

[Rogue's Hand]

....Just how much weed did you smoke before reading? :ninja:I smoked 2 blunts, but I want some of what Gambit smokes. It seems to get him waaaaay more f'ed up then me, LOL

[Canemacar]

I smoked 2 blunts, but I want some of what Gambit smokes. It seems to get him waaaaay more f'ed up then me, LOL

Why do you think his eyes are always red? :oldrazz:

I prefer pipes to blunts though. As in, real tobacco pipes. I'm weird like that.

[OutcryX]

Heck,... Look what they did with Blink.



...what did they do with Blink?

[Jake Cassidy]

Is she gonna join the X-Men? That would be cool.

[UraniaChang]

what pisses me off is that he never really had to deal with the fact that he cheated. he cheated with emma, jean died and he got to be with emma, it was too easy for him.

Oh, please, Jean cheated first, or what do you call that kiss she had with Logan, don't give me that bull**** about how they were going to die becuase it was their last chance so we should all forget about it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Man, loved this recent issue :up:

[Specter313]

...what did they do with Blink?

They had her lover rot away being posessed by Proteus and she couldn't do anything to save him.

Is she gonna join the X-Men? That would be cool.

No.

[squeekness]

Is anybody else surprised about the treatment of Gambit in Messiah Complex so far? I mean Carey's been saying he'd come back in a huge way and so far he really hasn't done much. He's fawned over a comatose Rogue and gotten his ass handed to him by Wolverine.

This lack of development leads me to believe that Gambit's got an ace up his sleeve (sorry couldn't resist). The evidence? His role in the Cable's death; Cable noted that Remy's trademark accent sounded forced, and it was also Gambit who first said the "one minute to dawn" phrase. And just recently how the hell did Gambit know that Cable had the kid?

My conclusion? Gambit is in league with Cable and the only reason he's on the Marauders was because he wanted to keep Rogue safe. I also believe that at some point it'll be revealed that Gambit is Sinister's son. This was hinted at way back when Gambit became Death and I've just been waiting for them to come out and say it.I want this so much to be true. I've been whining about Gambit's mistreatment for a while now, and yeah, I got my hopes up just a tad when Carey claimed Gambit would have a "pivotal" role in this story. I hope by "pivotal" he meant something more than being twisted on Logan's claws. If he's not working with Cable, he's at least making sure the Xs get what they need. He made sure the diaries didn't end up in Sinister's hands and I think it's no coincidence that it's Cable with the baby now. I prefer to think Gambit is playing the bad guys even if he wasn't specifically ordered to, maybe he thinks he can do more good that way than being with the Xs.


Gambit was Sinister's clone in X-men the End (the idea being that Sinister would take Gambit's body when his own became too old), and I wonder if that is coming into play here now.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Gambit was Sinister's clone in X-men the End (the idea being that Sinister would take Gambit's body when his own became too old), and I wonder if that is coming into play here now.

Cause Marvel goes on and on about how The End and Claremont's recent books are the ROXOR and must be made central to canon...? :woot:

[Specter313]

Pfft, more like people go out of their way these days to ignore most of what Claremont does in his current stuff. The End never needs to be brought into main continuity in any way, shape, or form.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I was being sarcastic.

[Colossal Spoons]

Sarcasm goes in blue font, it's the newest craze :o

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The hell...? :D

[Specter313]

I knew that. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

Of course you did

:D

[Specter313]

I was talkin about him being sarcastic before. :p

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Well, that was a fun issue.

[squeekness]

Cause Marvel goes on and on about how The End and Claremont's recent books are the ROXOR and must be made central to canon...? :woot:

Pfft, more like people go out of their way these days to ignore most of what Claremont does in his current stuff. The End never needs to be brought into main continuity in any way, shape, or form.The End was so long, drawn out and boring. :( I only picked it up because Gambit was in it. It was horrible. :down.

[Valechan]

It wasn't that awful, I loved seeing Cecilia and Hank together at last, and the story behind Sharra and K'itri, the Shi'ar deities. There were bits and little parts that were sort of nice, like Ororo freezing the Warskrull while he was drowning her, or Kitty's whole election run, I'll never forgive Whedon for ruining all the character growth Claremont had started for Kitty.

[OutcryX]

may Kitty die horrifically

[squeekness]

Kitty doesn't bother me... she's just uninteresting. :(

[Valechan]

There are far more uninteresting characters than Kitty Pryde. Say for example, Cyclops :p

[Loganbabe]

I'll never forgive Whedon for ruining all the character growth Claremont had started for Kitty.
I'll never forgive Whedon for lots of things. :csad:

[ragingdemon155]

I've been seriously pissed off with the way Gambit has been handled in this storyline. The main reason I started collecting this is because I was hearing about how he was going to have an important role and so on. All I get is him being gutted by Wolverine. Other then that the story has been great though,lol.

This theory of Gambit being some sought of "double" agent and working with Cable sounds pretty damn good. That is something I could go for. I just really hope that there's more then meets the eye to Gambit's involvement in all this. I mean, there is no logical reason as to why he's working with Sinister right now.

[squeekness]

There are far more uninteresting characters than Kitty Pryde. Say for example, Cyclops :pTrue. :p Never did like my heroes too straight laced.

I've been seriously pissed off with the way Gambit has been handled in this storyline. The main reason I started collecting this is because I was hearing about how he was going to have an important role and so on. All I get is him being gutted by Wolverine. Other then that the story has been great though,lol.

This theory of Gambit being some sought of "double" agent and working with Cable sounds pretty damn good. That is something I could go for. I just really hope that there's more then meets the eye to Gambit's involvement in all this. I mean, there is no logical reason as to why he's working with Sinister right now.Agreed. :up: I feel the same way.

[spectre]

the most logical reason he's stickin around with sinister is because he wants to keep rogue safe. and i'm still convinced that sinister is gambits father so im guessin that plays into it somehow.

[squeekness]

the most logical reason he's stickin around with sinister is because he wants to keep rogue safe. and i'm still convinced that sinister is gambits father so im guessin that plays into it somehow.Could be. :)

[El Bastardo]

So, I got and read my comics late this week. And I now make my debut return to the Hype after some time of being away since Mass Effect launched.

Anyway.

I remember this point in time when X-Men #200 came out and Gambit said something to Cable that left Cable on the rebound wondering what it meant. And I remember back then claiming that Gambit was secretly manipulating the Marauders and had given Nathan a clue.

And I remember being mocked and told I was an idiot and such, at least by one user named Cancan.

Oh, I just wanted to say that I was right, and I rock.

[squeekness]

So, I got and read my comics late this week. And I now make my debut return to the Hype after some time of being away since Mass Effect launched.

Anyway.

I remember this point in time when X-Men #200 came out and Gambit said something to Cable that left Cable on the rebound wondering what it meant. And I remember back then claiming that Gambit was secretly manipulating the Marauders and had given Nathan a clue.

And I remember being mocked and told I was an idiot and such, at least by one user named Cancan.

Oh, I just wanted to say that I was right, and I rock.I'll just bet I didn't disagree witrh you. :)

[El Bastardo]

Considering you absolutely rock as well, squeekster, I'd be willing to bet that you agreed with me. :up:

[squeekness]

Considering you absolutely rock as well, squeekster, I'd be willing to bet that you agreed with me. :up::heart:

[spectre]

anyways, this may be changin the subject but in an interview carey mentioned something interesting regarding the guthries. he said that after what dark beast tried to do to jeb in endangered species that there would be big reprecussions for cannonball and husk. any thoughts?

[Colossal Spoons]

Repercussions = Sam being on a team still and Husk getting out of Limbo

:up:

[Havok83]

Just read the issue and Cable is back!. Loved that ending bc I knew what happeend before wouldnt last

[Colossal Spoons]

Notice how his left arm is metal on the cover for the next Uncanny but not the last page of Adjectiveless?

[Havok83]

Notice how his left arm is metal on the cover for the next Uncanny but not the last page of Adjectiveless?
I didnt but I think that had more to do with artist error than anything. I think Bachalo messed it up

[Colossal Spoons]

Aw man, I was hoping he would be cured of the virus and had his psychic powers back to full power :(

[squeekness]

I am so used to Cable being like that, I never really notice his metal arm anymore. :p

[Colossal Spoons]

Wait, couldn't Josh fix that for him?

[aaron]

did gambit have much to do in 205? :/

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, get shanked and spill some beans :D

[Specter313]

Oh yeah – spoilers for X-Men #205 ahead. You better believe it.

The first act of The Messiah Complex drew to a close in last week’s X-Men #205 and—surprise—Cable’s not dead…not only that, he’s with child! Apparently, the first mutant born since House of M isn’t in the clutches of Sinister or the Purifiers. Mike Carey, Chris Bachalo, and all the other geniuses behind this storyline, are slowly revealing the fruits of their labor as Marvel’s Children of the Atom seem to be coming apart at the seams as they face perilous odds and greater loss than ever before. This mysterious baby may hold the answer to save the mutants from the brink of extinction; but, she might also bring about their extinction in the process.

Newsarama managed to catch Mike Carey at home—on his way out the door, actually—and he ran a scenic play-by-play of X-Men #205 that may leave readers with more questions than answers.

Newsarama: Looks like X-Men #205 is starting off 80 years in the future on Page 1—all of the history of the events taking place in the Marvel Universe seem to have been stricken from all the record books intentionally. Madrox and Layla are getting ready to infiltrate a mutant internment camp—is this the classic “Days of Futures Past” storyline becoming a reality?

Mike Carey: I’d rather not comment on that right now. We will be seeing more of this future timeline in the near future and we’ll be seeing how it relates to our present. That’s all I can really say at the moment.

NRAMA: The X-Men seem to be leading a rather aggressive attack on Pages 2-7 with the odds stacked 3 to 1 in the Marauders favor. Cyclops is pulling plays out of Sinister’s playbook—so somehow—the numbers stacked up against the hedging X-Men seem fair. Care to elaborate on this proactive stance the X-Men are taking? Are the X-Men overextending themselves by taking to so many fronts?

MC: This fight in particular is a really tough fight and, as you find out, they don’t come out on top—it pretty much takes everything they’ve got to get out of there with their lives. Cyclops made some clever moves, I think; both in terms of X-Men he chose and the back-up he provided with Emma acting as a psychic shield. Initially, this ploy gave the X-Men the advantage of surprise and allowed them to take Sinister and Exodus out of the fight—because the two of them alone have the power to squash any number of X-Men. I think maybe this was a situation where their only chance for success was for them to get in, strike fast, and get out again. As it turns out, their two goals were to rescue Rogue and find the baby. Well, they struck out on Rogue and only came away with a little more information about the baby—crucial information.

NRAMA: The baby is a she? I think that X-Men #205 is the first time the pronoun “her” shows up…

MC: Yes, the baby is a girl.

NRAMA: Oh, and let’s not forget that Bishop is back—so with Cyclops’ new aggressive play calling and Bishop returning are these moments indicative of a change in the nature of the X-books? Are readers going to see an aggressive change in the dynamic of these books?

MC: I think so—yeah. I think we’re seeing a gathering of the clans—aren’t we? A lot of mutants are coming in from out of the cold and they are uniting under Cyclops’ banner—and it is his banner this time, he’s taking charge here. I also think we’re seeing shifts in the power structure with a new reality shaping itself.

NRAMA: On pages 8-12, you’ve really fleshed out the return of Lady Deathstrike and the Reavers—the New X-Men and Rictor get away but at what cost? With another group of malicious hunters entering the fray, can there be a ‘higher power’ manipulating these factions from behind the scenes? Could there be a bigger bad guy than Sinister looming over the top of the Messiah Complex storyline? Or is this just the worst cast of “when it rains, it pours” for the X-Men?

MC: There are some connections we haven’t seen yet. Obviously, a guy like Sinister would never work with a group like the Purifiers—those are completely separate forces; nothing could ever bring those two forces together under the same banner. There are some connections between some of the antagonists; and, specifically, you will be able to find out more about what’s happening with the Sentinels surrounding the mansion at the end of this week’s issue. Again, I can’t say much more than that for now—but I will say that it’s not random and their more than meets the eye.

NRAMA: On pages 13 through 18, the proverbial ____ hits the fan and the X-Men’s assault seems to crumble very quickly and Wolverine gets pertinent information from Gambit—the revelation that the baby is a girl and that Gambit isn’t too good of shape when Wolverine gets done with him.

MC: Yeah, [Gambit] takes some damage—yeah.

NRAMA: It appears that Storm, Angel, and Colossus are left stranded and in bad shape as Wolverine and Nightcrawler barely escape with their lives. Nightcrawler has been shot—and he screams, “Logan, I can’t…”—can’t what? Fluted, hollow point bullets are definitely going to take the cool out of anybody’s walk…

MC: Yeah, I have to admit that he’s suffered some pretty terrible internal injuries. Almost no one on the team gets out unscathed—

NRAMA: --does anyone have any “life threatening injuries”?

MC: (laughter) We cannot possibly say—I’m sure Wolverine’s healing factor will kick in again; he was only in contact with Scramble for a couple of seconds. He will presumably survive and regenerate. The question marks are over the rest of the team—Wolverine and Nightcrawler are exposed to the elements. It’s like 20 or 30 degrees below out there—so they should only last for a couple of minutes at the most.

NRAMA: On pages 19-22, still reeling from the team’s disarray and wrapping their minds around the knowledge that Cable is alive and has the baby from Cooperstown, the remaining X-Men are attacked by reprogrammed Sentinels. Cyclops’ reaction to his son being alive is fairly underscored by the news that Cable has the baby and hasn’t called home to check in. Care to elaborate?

MC: Cyclops is a little surprised and saying, “Why didn’t you contact us?” Emma sort of suggests that Cable may not share the same agenda as the X-Men.

NRAMA: So, Cable, he’s got the baby. What does he know? Is he trying to change the future by playing lone-wolf in the present?

MC: Good question—and that question will certainly be addressed as we move forward.

NRAMA: How difficult/fun/challenging has the project been so far?

MC: It’s been really marvelous—and exhausting. There is a lot of e-mailing to one another. It’s a huge challenge to coordinate with a cast this big with a plot so spread out—the real task lies in continually moving the story forward; finding the character beats; making sure that no one is along the wayside; and just making it all work. What stops this project from barreling out of control is that all of these characters are so strong; and that we had spent so much time, in advance of the event, plotting it out in meticulous detail. Instead of each of us being given a ball to run with—we were given specific events and instances that we had to carry out. Essentially, we know what has to happen and we know who is on the front lines of this event.

NRAMA: You all seem to have your fingerprints over all of the characters too. When you think about how complex each issue is—with segues to characters who aren’t typically in each of these books it becomes kind of intricate.

MC: Yes, it’s very intricate. It’s required a lot of communication on everyone’s part—all the way back to the start of 2006. Also, a lot of it has to do with the fact that we are all genuinely excited about this project—and we’re all equally willing to blather on and on about what we’re doing individually for the whole of the project. If everyone involved hadn’t been onboard from the start—this project would have never worked.

NRAMA: Would you care to comment about your books upcoming title change?

MC: Um…(laughter) Only to say that there’s a logic to that and that it spins directly out of the end of Messiah Complex—the events of X-Men #207, which is the final chapter of Messiah Complex, will lead directly into #208 and the new form the book will take.

NRAMA: Can you give readers something to chew on for the second act of Messiah Complex starting this week?

MC: Okay, X-Men #205 ends with Cable saying, “We’re only one minute until the dawn”; but actually, in many ways, things are about to get much darker—especially when the X-Men realize exactly what they are up against.

This whole experience has been really wild. Not since the ‘80s has there been such a good time to jump onboard these books because it just feels like things are finally moving in the right direction—you can really feel it coming together. It’s very satisfying.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=138330

[DJSCARLET]

dont care what happens to gambit, the dude can get shanked, fried, or hung for all i care (sorry squeek).
kinda excited about cable having the baby, i want to know about his agenda. the scenes with jamie and layla are interesting.

When the hell is ROGUE going to be back in action?!?!?:cmad:

[CrazyDragon]

dont care what happens to gambit, the dude can get shanked, fried, or hung for all i care (sorry squeek).

Ouch. :csad:



I'm excited about Gambit's part in MCX. :)

I'm still somewhat sour about the Gambit/Wolverine fight scene... if I may call it a "fight"...


(Hey Squeek, I love your Avatar :D )

[aaron]

Yeah, get shanked and spill some beans :D

just scrumptious

[CrazyDragon]

Yeah, get shanked and spill some beans :D


Hey, it wasn't thaaaaaat bad..... okay, the "fight"-scene was crappy... but maybe it's not that what we think it is. (know what I mean? lol)
Mike Carey is not Milligan afterall...

[DJSCARLET]

Mike Carey is not Milligan afterall...
you got that right! Carey is a breath of fresh air after Miligan's damn run. i like what carey has been doing.
finally, x-men is worth reading again.

[Havok83]

Wait, couldn't Josh fix that for him?
his metal arm? Im not sure. He was cured towards the end of the Cable series and it remained metallic. All teh cure did was take away the TO virus so he didnt have to suppress it with his powers but the physical appearance still remained. But Josh is an omega and by definition has unlimited potential. Maybe he could fix it someday.

[Cyke'd]

Honestly i think Elixer could heal it, after all the man (or boy your choice) did create a new heart for david after it was ripped out. So growing a new arm and torso really isn't out of the question for him, just probably take some time and energy that he may not be quite ready for. Then again Elixer having the power that he does seldom really uses it to the extent i'd expect it to be (seeing how beast was featured telling parker there was nothing that could be done to save aunt may last month).

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, and if he needed help with the Techno part of the virus, I'm sure Forge could help him.

[El Bastardo]

his metal arm? Im not sure. He was cured towards the end of the Cable series and it remained metallic. All teh cure did was take away the TO virus so he didnt have to suppress it with his powers but the physical appearance still remained. But Josh is an omega and by definition has unlimited potential. Maybe he could fix it someday.
Cable technically has the TO again. He bonded with a symbiotic techno-organic entity mesh thing over in Cable & Deadpool in an attempt to dampen his powers so they wouldn't lead to him burning out again.

Not a virus this time around, exactly, but TO nonetheless.

[Havok83]

Cable technically has the TO again. He bonded with a symbiotic techno-organic entity mesh thing over in Cable & Deadpool in an attempt to dampen his powers so they wouldn't lead to him burning out again.

Not a virus this time around, exactly, but TO nonetheless.
Oh I know he has the TO again. Just making the point that the metal didnt go away when he was cured the first time around

[Havok83]

Yeah, and if he needed help with the Techno part of the virus, I'm sure Forge could help him.
Forge is only helpful when story calls for it otherwise, Rogue and Cyclops' obvious flaws would have been rectified years ago

[Valechan]

Forge is crap, someone needs to kill him

[Canemacar]

Carey has given yet another interview:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12515

[El Bastardo]

Ah, there's Mr. Wrong.

Yes, I just feel the need to toot my own horn. Again.

Squeek, toot it for me! Or Spoons, you do it. Someone!

[Canemacar]

Not a graceful winner, huh?

Sorry to make it a hollow victory, but I've really got no problem saying I was wrong about it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Bastard's balloon has been prematurely deflated. Way to be graceful about it, Can! :cmad:

[Rogue's Hand]

His descriptions about Rogue's future are always so vague :whatever:

[squeekness]

Carey has given yet another interview:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12515Thanks, Can, for posting this.

Ah, there's Mr. Wrong.

Yes, I just feel the need to toot my own horn. Again.

Squeek, toot it for me! Or Spoons, you do it. Someone!Well there was good news and bad news -- or basicially, yeah Gambit crawls away, but will he even do anything after that? It's not like they plan on telling us anything about why he left and what is doing. :down

His descriptions about Rogue's future are always so vague :whatever:The whole interview was purpsosefully vague, really. I at least was bothered that it sure seemed like somebody was gushing about great Rogue is. It bugs me that Gambit is continually upstaged by his prima donna ex-(and hopefully permanently ex) girlfriend. :(

[chris moore]

By his words, it SOUNDS like Iceman is going to be benched yet again. Man I hope that aint the case. Everytime they bring Bobby back, they mess with him and make him out to be a complete moron, then just as someone else steps in to improve the way he's written and displays some sense of power and forward motion in the character, he gets benched!

[El Bastardo]

Bastard's balloon has been prematurely deflated. Way to be graceful about it, Can! :cmad:
It has not been prematurely deflated.

I knew I was right way back then, you knew I was right, he was wrongwrongwrongwrong, and I take extreme pride in rubbing that fact in, and gloriously remembering our uber-argument that spanned pages, a great war that parallels that between the Autobots and Decepticons that resulted in my being right.

And of course I'm not a graceful winner, Can. I'm French. French never win anything. Do the math. :D

[The Englishman]

By his words, it SOUNDS like Iceman is going to be benched yet again. Man I hope that aint the case. Everytime they bring Bobby back, they mess with him and make him out to be a complete moron, then just as someone else steps in to improve the way he's written and displays some sense of power and forward motion in the character, he gets benched!
I hope thats not the case because it's Bull**** if it is but it certainly sounds like it!!!!!:cmad:

[Canemacar]

It has not been prematurely deflated.

I knew I was right way back then, you knew I was right, he was wrongwrongwrongwrong, and I take extreme pride in rubbing that fact in, and gloriously remembering our uber-argument that spanned pages, a great war that parallels that between the Autobots and Decepticons that resulted in my being right.

And of course I'm not a graceful winner, Can. I'm French. French never win anything. Do the math. :D

Go eats snails froggie!


:oldrazz:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Or just threaten to not save his hide during WW3 or something. :D

[Canemacar]

Or just threaten to not save his hide during WW3 or something. :D

You think this A on my head stands for France?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You think this A on my head stands for France?

Wait. You did get I was making a joke about letting'em all rot before moving in, right?

[CrazyDragon]

OMG. Talking about arrogant Americans :P

*hides*

[El Bastardo]

I'm not arrogant on basis that I'm from America.

I'm arrogant on basis that I'm a better representative of intelligence and humanity than you are.

Not that I know you, but it's likely the case. :cwink:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oh, you.

You could've just said he/she didn't get that we were joking around. :D

[El Bastardo]

Key word: "could've"?

:D

[Valechan]

You scare me. All of you

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Key word: "could've"?

:D

It wasn't criticism.

Was going for a "It's even better cause you could've been nicer and didn't just for kicks" motif.

[El Bastardo]

Yes, yes, I am awesome.

[CrazyDragon]

Oh, you.

You could've just said he/she didn't get that we were joking around. :D

I know you were joking around! ;)

That's why I put the ":P" at the end of the sentence. (I thought it turns into that smiiley ":oldrazz:", but I was wrong)

[Specter313]

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/X-Men206FinchCover.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/X-Men206BianchiCover.jpg

[Specter313]

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/1.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/2.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/3.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/4.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/5.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/6.jpg

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/7.jpg

[The Englishman]

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/X-Men206FinchCover.jpg



http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/X-Men206BianchiCover.jpg


Hes got a M tattoo!!??! :wow:

[Canemacar]

Hes got a M tattoo!!??! :wow:

I think it's Maddrox. He probably got captured in the mutant camp in the future and was branded just like Bishop was.

[gothicFLAVOURS]

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/3.jpg

Lol, they're Bachalo's version of Paris Hilton XD

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I think it's Maddrox. He probably got captured in the mutant camp in the future and was branded just like Bishop was.
If that were the case, which I partly disagree with, Bishop is extremely connected to this. This brings up the question in the ES one shot, when sam asked Bishop why he didn't warn them about M-day. What does bishop kno/not know?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You guys do know that the traitor is supposed to be revealed in chap 9/10 and that Bishop gets a variant cover, right?

[Canemacar]

I did notice that Madrox and Layla went forward 80 years, the same amount of time that Bishop originally traveled backwards.

[HandOfFate]

I did notice that Madrox and Layla went forward 80 years, the same amount of time that Bishop originally traveled backwards.

Hmmm…this goes back to Bishop not recognizing Archangel with his metal wings in Uncanny X-men 283. IIRC, in Bishop's future timeline Warren always had natural feather wings, not metallic wings.

Interesting.

[El Bastardo]

I tried real hard not to mind Bachalo's art in the last X-Men issue, but I'm sorry, those panels look like crap.

Hopefully they'll be better up and in my face.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I think it looks fastastic.

[spectre]

the bishop connection is interesting. it would definitely make his character interesting/relevant again. i mean when he first debuted he was a distrusting, stone-cold killer. after the traitor among the x-men was revealed to be onslaught/xavier he kind of became obsolete and was eventually neutered into becoming storm's lackey. wouldn't it be cool if the writers retroactively write the onslaught/xavier betrayal as a red herring and make bishop the x-traitor? he would have come back in time to stop himself.

[Havok83]

who is that on the cover to 206? Doesnt look like Bishop

[Specter313]

My guess is it's the Madrox in the future with Layla, only captured and put in that mutant camp and stamped with the M labeling him a mutant.

[najnaimik23]

u guys might find this a lame question but im gonna ask anyway.
who is the top 5 strongerst x-men character?
except for phoenix.

[Canemacar]

u guys might find this a lame question but im gonna ask anyway.
who is the top 5 strongerst x-men character?
except for phoenix.

Because I'm bored:

X-man, Jesus-Cable, Wanda, Apocalypse(on paper at least), and Sinister/Exodus(depends on whatever powers Sinister decides to give himself that morning)

[OutcryX]

soo...anyways...i'd be incredibly pissed for them to take Bishop, a character thats been second only to Gambit in the nuetered department, dust him off, make him shiny and cool again...then reveal that his entire purpose since his introduction some 20 years ago was to betray the x-men during the messiah complex? that would really really piss me off...yet make sense...in a bad way

[najnaimik23]

how bout stryfe is he not strong enough to be in top 5 ???

[OutcryX]

how bout stryfe is he not strong enough to be in top 5 ???


there has got to be another thread for such a discussion....

.....that and Stryfe is the same as Jesus-Cable...as he never had any type of power dampening that Cable had....that and he is a clone...so they are the same guy...and Jean is right up there in the top 5 too....and i guess Rachel as well..any Cyclops/Jean combo shoots to the top of the list

[spectre]

dude that is a lame question, plus there are like a hundred different other pointless threads in this forum that ask the exact same question, so this is really a dumb place to bring it up.

[UraniaChang]

Making this kind of list is not of much importance, look at those characters Canemacar list, how many of them can live up to their power status without destroying the balance between characters and the story?

Unless it's a villain, being almighty powerful won't do the character any good, just look at Phoenix. She's the living(?) proof.

[squeekness]

who is that on the cover to 206? Doesnt look like BishopFor some reason I thought it was Xavier, but I suppose it could be a future Madrox after all. He certianly doesn't look too happy. :(

[Xmenfan527]

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/5.jpg


who is this in the panel?

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

That looks like x-factor and I don't know. You see, this is why I sometimes get mad at his art.

[OutcryX]

i wanna say lady/mother askani, cyclops, marvel girl, beast and iceman

[Cyke'd]

Oh also don't forget young just infected Cable as well in that pic

[spectre]

yup that was 80's X-Factor goodness. it should be noted that alot of people see that as cyclops' defining moment, abandoning his son to save him.

[Jake Cassidy]

i wanna say lady/mother askani, cyclops, marvel girl, beast and iceman

I think you're absolutely right.

[The Englishman]

I think you're absolutely right.
Yes i think your right. Cyclops difining moment.:cyclops:

[Havok83]

http://www.marvelcomics.pl/wysiwyg/news/2007-12/Cyclop83/mc9i10/5.jpg


who is this in the panel?
Nope, that wasnt Mother Askani, but Sister Askani, one of the followers and the scene is from X-factor 68, which was the last part of Endgame, my favorite X-factor story. Great story with amazing art by Portacio

[OutcryX]

yeah i said lady askani...i knew it was one of em...regardless..i recognized the pic and what it referenced regardless of who drew it

[Specter313]

http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200803-advance/xmen209.jpg

X-MEN: LEGACY #209
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by BILLY TAN & SCOTT EATON
Cover by DAVID FINCH
CLASSIFIED UNTIL THE END OF MESSIAH COMPLEX.
Fresh off their groundbreaking run on Messiah Complex, writer Mike Carey (X-MEN) and artists Scot Eaton (X-FACTOR) and Billy Tan (UNCANNY X-MEN) take on two of mutantkind’s most iconic figures as well as some of the most important moments in X-Men history.
32 PGS./Rated A…$2.99

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

It's the Red *****. I can never like her again.:csad: And toad looks horrible. Ugh.

[Colossal Spoons]

I have no idea what that first issue of XML is supposed to be about lol

[Valechan]

Xavier and Magneto, isn't obvious?

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

It is, but I thought Mags would be back for 500 in Uncanny.

[OutcryX]

Dammit...didn't these two lovebirds ALREADY have their own series with Excalibur: The Genosha Years? I guess now they wanna have a go at it with Charlie using his legs...opens up more positi...er..possiblities

[Colossal Spoons]

Dammit...didn't these two lovebirds ALREADY have their own series with Excalibur: The Genosha Years? I guess now they wanna have a go at it with Charlie using his legs...opens up more positi...er..possiblities

As long as it means Shola coming back

[Havok83]

Dammit...didn't these two lovebirds ALREADY have their own series with Excalibur: The Genosha Years? I guess now they wanna have a go at it with Charlie using his legs...opens up more positi...er..possiblities
its different though bc this time it will be done by an interesting writer.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Dammit...didn't these two lovebirds ALREADY have their own series with Excalibur: The Genosha Years? I guess now they wanna have a go at it with Charlie using his legs...opens up more positi...er..possiblities
You so nasty.:o

[Specter313]

As long as it means Shola coming back

All those kids had some good potential. Only good thing Claremont has done in at least a decade. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

All those kids had some good potential. Only good thing Claremont has done in at least a decade. :o

I'm pretty sure they're all depowered now too :( The only one I hated was Wicked :down:

[OutcryX]

Since Mutates arent mutants...(actually they would qualify as just being superhumans)...would the whole no more mutant thing apply to them?

[Colossal Spoons]

Think about that again, knowing what you know about Wanda :p

[Havok83]

Since Mutates arent mutants...(actually they would qualify as just being superhumans)...would the whole no more mutant thing apply to them?
Wanda's line removed hte mutant gene from the former mutants. Mutates wouldnt have that

[Valechan]

Mutates were mutants that went through the Genegineering process to be slaves to the Genoshan Magistrates. Ergo, it would've worked if there were any left, which I doubt there were seeing as bloody Sentinels destroyed Genosha long before M-DAy

[Havok83]

Mutates were mutants that went through the Genegineering process to be slaves to the Genoshan Magistrates. Ergo, it would've worked if there were any left, which I doubt there were seeing as bloody Sentinels destroyed Genosha long before M-DAy
Guess it depends on what type of mutate you are talking about then. The Savage Land mutates, were artificially engineered by Magneto to be given powers and were not mutants

[Valechan]

I was talking about the Genoshan Mutates, weren't you guys talking about them?

[Havok83]

I was talking about the Genoshan Mutates, weren't you guys talking about them?
could be. I assumed he was talking about Mutates in general. If not then its my mistake

[Valechan]

Anyway Charles and Magneto.... I have to write a fic about them as a couple...

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Anyway Charles and Magneto.... I have to write a fic about them as a couple...
You are all about x-men and sex today, aren't ypu?

[Valechan]

It's the alcohol, it's not a good influence :p

[Canemacar]

http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200803-advance/xmen209.jpg

X-MEN: LEGACY #209
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by BILLY TAN & SCOTT EATON
Cover by DAVID FINCH
CLASSIFIED UNTIL THE END OF MESSIAH COMPLEX.
Fresh off their groundbreaking run on Messiah Complex, writer Mike Carey (X-MEN) and artists Scot Eaton (X-FACTOR) and Billy Tan (UNCANNY X-MEN) take on two of mutantkind’s most iconic figures as well as some of the most important moments in X-Men history.
32 PGS./Rated A…$2.99

So are the covers going to link up to create a mural of X-history or something? That would be badass. I can't wait to see the Blue/Gold part of it.

[Havok83]

Wow, I just read X-men 204. I didnt even realize I had missed it. I loved Choi's art and would love for him to be a regualar X-artist. At least he will be drawing an issue of UXM soon enough. Loved the costume he had for Bobby and his rendition of Scott's New X-men look.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Wow, I just read X-men 204. I didnt even realize I had missed it. I loved Choi's art and would love for him to be a regualar X-artist. At least he will be drawing an issue of UXM soon enough. Loved the costume he had for Bobby and his rendition of Scott's New X-men look.
It's two issues of UXM so far that he's drawing.

[Havok83]

It's two issues of UXM so far that he's drawing.
even better. I look forward to that

[Specter313]

Yeah, I wonder if it means that Choi will be the regular artist on UXM or if he'll just be doing the first arc post MC.

[Canemacar]

Personally, I think Choi's art is too clean and pretty for the dark tone Carey's book usually has. Uncanny would probably be a better fit, since it's more traditional and Silver Age-y.

[Havok83]

Personally, I think Choi's art is too clean and pretty for the dark tone Carey's book usually has. Uncanny would probably be a better fit, since it's more traditional and Silver Age-y.
considering that Carey's book will soon be about Xavier and covert art focusing on the past, its obvious the tone of the book is changing and becoming more of a traditional feel where Choi might be good. I dont care. He'd be good in either place, as long as he's doing an X-men title

[Valechan]

He drew such beautiful men that Choi... he should stay forever, he made me like Summers for a little while! :$

[The Englishman]

Yes i hope Choi stays as a permanant artist.

[The Englishman]

What issue is the next part of messiah complex in because ive fogot??

[Valechan]

Uncanny 494, isn't it?

[Snikt 6]

Yeah, I wonder if it means that Choi will be the regular artist on UXM or if he'll just be doing the first arc post MC.
I hope so....glad Tan is still around....he did some good work in Uncanny.

[ProfeZZor X]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/caratula.jpg

[OutcryX]

busy cover...issue synapse?

[The Englishman]

Arrrrhhhhh!!!!!!....... That Wanker Wolverine right at the front again!!

[Rogue's Hand]

Any previews for #207 yet?

I wonder if the cover connects to show a big picture because I can see Mystique fighting Rogue in the bottom right hand corner :)

[Canemacar]

Thats not Rogue; it's Warpath. Notice the knife.

[Slant]

Either that or Rogue has some manly hands.

[Rogue's Hand]

True! Dang u guys got some good vision, LOL

[TromaFreak64]

i totally missed the back of cyclops head as he is blasting someone...

crazy busy cover

[TromaFreak64]

also vertigo is on the cover despite just being BITTEN in half last issue... god i can't believe Marvel would do something like that! I mean it is not like they'd make Sinister's hair go from short to flat top to dreads through different issues or anything.... or have his facial hair randomly appear and disappear... right guys? Right? :cwink:

[Slant]

Compared to the 205 cover, anything is accurate.

[UraniaChang]

This cover makes me dazzle.

I wonder whether Cable would be taking this kid to his series or not, and this baby mystery likely won't be solved in MC.