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OutcryX
05-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Simone Bianchi's art is a mixed bag. It's so detailed and beautifully rendered, but his poses are weird, and his people ain't got no alibi











You see, because THEY UGLY!

don't worry Manic...i caught that joke even if NOBODY else did...but really, Spoonsie and Havok and Comicboy SHOULD have..but not really.

Colossal Spoons
05-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Haha

Cosmic
05-13-2009, 03:38 PM
X-Men: Legacy bored me to death! I think I kept buying it, because I believed that they might take it somewhere interesting. But after awhile, I wasn't even reading it. I'd get it thru the mail along with a stack of other books, and say "oh, right...I am still buying this." And then I'd set it aside and totally forget about it until the next month. I think I did this for about 6 months (at least) until I finally dropped it.

GambitXremy
05-13-2009, 04:47 PM
ya the last few months havent been careys best but, this months should be good. its the big pay off that rogue fans have been waiting for

OutcryX
05-13-2009, 05:25 PM
the only payoff i want for Rogue will never happen

for her to finally learn to control her powers...and somehow regain her Ms. marvel abilities...while breaking up with gambit for good and letting him regain his swagger while she gets some of her own...or get with Pulse...or be alone..or die..whichever

Havok83
05-13-2009, 05:41 PM
the only payoff i want for Rogue will never happen

for her to finally learn to control her powers...and somehow regain her Ms. marvel abilities...while breaking up with gambit for good and letting him regain his swagger while she gets some of her own...or get with Pulse...or be alone..or die..whichever
those are my wishes for Rogue as well which mean you are right in that it wont ever happen

GambitXremy
05-13-2009, 06:08 PM
give it ten more years. then maybe you will get your wish

squeekness
05-13-2009, 11:29 PM
*misses Gambit's swagger too* :(

GambitXremy
05-13-2009, 11:41 PM
Gambit should try Old spice HAHAHA

squeekness
05-13-2009, 11:56 PM
I love Old Spice. It smells like my dad. :D

OutcryX
05-14-2009, 12:16 AM
Swagga Spice is da truth. i loves it

GambitXremy
05-14-2009, 11:27 AM
Gambit should be in a old spice T.V. spot before rogue and then after using old spice after rogue

Specter313
05-18-2009, 08:52 PM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8085/xmen224covcol.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2338/xmen224008.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9259/xmen224014.jpg

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/399/xmen224021.jpg

GambitXremy
05-18-2009, 09:18 PM
I can't wait till this book moves on for charles it's kinda boring now... but i still like mike careys writing

ChaoticPsylocke
05-18-2009, 10:02 PM
again with the changing outfits!

i love that first page though!

javi1024
05-18-2009, 11:13 PM
book may be dull, but at least the art is beautiful.

GambitXremy
05-18-2009, 11:37 PM
ya the art has been pretty good. i miss the colorist who started the book with carey when the book went to legacy Frank D'armata

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 01:07 AM
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21249

Here's a Carey interview about the future of Legacy, and more importantly, the Gambit Origins one-shot!

UraniaChang
05-19-2009, 05:52 AM
Too much Rogue for my taste.
Hard to believe that she was once my favorite female character, like when I was 12.

UraniaChang
05-19-2009, 05:52 AM
Sorry!

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 06:34 AM
She used to be a favorite of mine as well, but these days I'm probably her biggest detractor on these boards.

squeekness
05-19-2009, 09:33 AM
Me, too. Carey said that one of the characters from the 226 cover would be the one character driving the next string of stories -- Gambit, Rogue or Danger. Let me guess. Rogue! :(

GambitXremy
05-19-2009, 11:42 AM
But it also said that gambit will have more of a staring roll and not just rogues Bit@#

squeekness
05-19-2009, 12:19 PM
We'll see. :( I won't be holding my breath.

04nbod
05-19-2009, 02:14 PM
X-MEN LEGACY #227
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by DUSTIN WEAVER
Cover by TERRY DODSON
70th Frame Variant by TBA
While San Francisco is still reeling from the onslaught of the Dark Avengers, Rogue struggles to cope with the power and perspective of a God, the young X-student Trance undergoes a terrifying transformation, and X-Men Legacy takes a dramatic new direction.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/138_x_men__legacy_227.jpg

I'm a rogue fan, she's my favourite so I'm excited

squeekness
05-19-2009, 04:44 PM
Oh, look. It's Rogue. :rolleyes: Called it. *sigh* Gambit will go off back to limbo... :(

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 05:12 PM
Carey has literally made Rogue a god now. I know we like to make jokes about carey being a shameless fanboy, but really? A god? Jeez.

Havok83
05-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Carey has literally made Rogue a god now. I know we like to make jokes about carey being a shameless fanboy, but really? A god? Jeez.
god? what the hell happened with her?

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 06:04 PM
Absorbs Ares. Sounds like it may be permanent from the solicits.

Havok83
05-19-2009, 06:13 PM
Absorbs Ares. Sounds like it may be permanent from the solicits.
good lord. Why cant she just get her Ms. Marvel powers? When she absorbed her, their DNA mixxed and Rogue became part Kree. Easiest way to give her back her flight and strength would be to just have them re-emerge and use the DNA as an explanation for it. No need for her to go off messing with other characters to power her up

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 06:16 PM
Funny how rogue's character apparently has to cannibalize other characters from a writing stand-point to sustain herself. First it was Ms. Marvel, then Gambit, then Sunfire, now Ares.

Specter313
05-19-2009, 06:24 PM
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5042/138xmenlegacy227.jpg

X-MEN LEGACY #227
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by DUSTIN WEAVER
Cover by TERRY DODSON
70th Frame Variant by TBA
While San Francisco is still reeling from the onslaught of the Dark Avengers, Rogue struggles to cope with the power and perspective of a God, the young X-student Trance undergoes a terrifying transformation, and X-Men Legacy takes a dramatic new direction.
32 PGS./Rated A ...$2.99

UraniaChang
05-19-2009, 06:32 PM
Someday she might be blown up like a ballon because she absorbs too much.


Hope that day comes soon.

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 06:51 PM
looks like her hips have already started.

GambitXremy
05-19-2009, 06:52 PM
Nothing wrong with big hips HAHA

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 06:57 PM
She seems to have a rubber spine as well. I'm not sure even Nightcrawler and Gambit could bend and twist like she does on the covers.

katie_girl09
05-19-2009, 07:02 PM
Oh! All of you stop being so mean. :P
You know, Rogue fans blame her downfall on Gambit too.

DJSCARLET
05-19-2009, 11:21 PM
*Ignores all the Rogue bashing*
Carey's making Rogue absorb Ares?:huh:
Okay...this should interesting. As long as she can control her powers finally it's cool.

ChaoticPsylocke
05-19-2009, 11:23 PM
what are they thinking???? couldnt this be a miniseries or ongoing Rogue book?

what is it taking up this? im a rogue fan, and unfortunetely unable to pick up comic books at this time....but this doesnt make sense! the whole point of Xmen is to be a team....not Rogue or Wolverine + a couple of random Xmen sprinkled in.

DJSCARLET
05-19-2009, 11:28 PM
what are they thinking???? couldnt this be a miniseries or ongoing Rogue book?

what is it taking up this? im a rogue fan, and unfortunetely unable to pick up comic books at this time....but this doesnt make sense! the whole point of Xmen is to be a team....not Rogue or Wolverine + a couple of random Xmen sprinkled in.

Mike Carey apparently tried to pitch the idea of a new on going Rogue series.
Looks like that fell through.
You gotta admit though Marvel likes to play favorites. X-men may be a team book, but its always the same characters (Wolverine, Jean, Scott, now Emma) who get the spot light.

Havok83
05-19-2009, 11:35 PM
Its ironic bc Carey made me love Rogue and now he's gotten to start disliking her as well

roach
05-19-2009, 11:38 PM
I thought she couldnt absorb people of that caliber of power

Canemacar
05-19-2009, 11:42 PM
Carey had her absorb 6 billions people at once earlier. It's clear she can do anything as far as he's concerned.

GambitXremy
05-20-2009, 12:07 AM
will just have to wait and see... i have faith in carey.... he's going to drop the ball sometimes but come on people at least he's trying something new it was a ballsie move focusing a book just on Professor X.

04nbod
05-20-2009, 08:00 AM
Carey has literally made Rogue a god now. I know we like to make jokes about carey being a shameless fanboy, but really? A god? Jeez.

There was discussion about making her Marvel's next cosmic force before Carey came along. It seems like a natural extension of her powers with control

squeekness
05-20-2009, 10:21 AM
will just have to wait and see... i have faith in carey.... he's going to drop the ball sometimes but come on people at least he's trying something new it was a ballsie move focusing a book just on Professor X.I'd agree with this more if I was a Rogue fan. Now it will be back to Gambit following her around, mooning like a puppy, or no longer even around at all. :(

katie_girl09
05-20-2009, 10:54 AM
Mike Carey apparently tried to pitch the idea of a new on going Rogue series.
Looks like that fell through.
You gotta admit though Marvel likes to play favorites. X-men may be a team book, but its always the same characters (Wolverine, Jean, Scott, now Emma) who get the spot light.
I have to say, I'm really glad that I'm not the only person who has noticed that. Marvel certainly does play favourites. The one that bugs me the most for some reason is Emma. She just comes out of nowhere, joins the X-men and starts sleeping with Scott, and suddenly she's getting all this attention (in spite of the fact that she isn't even as in-demand as, say, Gambit). WTF? They really don't seem to care what the fans want.

squeekness
05-20-2009, 03:18 PM
I like Gambit WAY more than Emma. :( She's a snot to everyone and I just don't understand the appeal....

Manic
05-20-2009, 03:38 PM
I like Emma more, but that has more to do with how little I care about Gambit than how much I care about Emma. Gambit seems like a cool character, but I'm gonna need some non-Rogue Gambit stories to get me to care about him.

roach
05-20-2009, 04:22 PM
I have to say, I'm really glad that I'm not the only person who has noticed that. Marvel certainly does play favourites. The one that bugs me the most for some reason is Emma. She just comes out of nowhere, joins the X-men and starts sleeping with Scott, and suddenly she's getting all this attention (in spite of the fact that she isn't even as in-demand as, say, Gambit). WTF? They really don't seem to care what the fans want.

and yet no one has really called her or him out on this...he wife/soulmate dies and he is making out with Emma on the gravesite...and the rest of the X-men are shrugging their shoulders like its normal.

squeekness
05-20-2009, 04:31 PM
I thought Logan called him on it in one of the opening issues of Astonishing. :(

roach
05-20-2009, 04:34 PM
a thow away comment isnt calling him on it...Bobby, Warren, Hank and Alex should have pulled him aside and gave him a serious talking to. Yes she was apart of the X-men but at the moment he started locking lips at Jean's grave he showed that his capacity for decision making was gone. He should have stepped down and went on hiatus to get his head straight.

squeekness
05-20-2009, 04:41 PM
I thought Logan was perched on the end of the bed and had even popped claws before Cyke blasted him outside. That's a bit more than just having words.....

roach
05-20-2009, 04:44 PM
what issue was that

Canemacar
05-20-2009, 04:51 PM
I like Emma more, but that has more to do with how little I care about Gambit than how much I care about Emma. Gambit seems like a cool character, but I'm gonna need some non-Rogue Gambit stories to get me to care about him.

Gambit Origins looks to be pretty good. I've got a link to some new artwork and Legacy info:

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.8082.X-Men~colon~_Passing_on_the_Legacy

squeekness
05-20-2009, 04:55 PM
what issue was that
#1? #2? It was pretty early.... I should dig that out and scan it....

ChaoticPsylocke
05-20-2009, 05:00 PM
please. ive never seen it. i didnt read astonishing.

squeekness
05-20-2009, 05:06 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/Wolverine/astonishingoneloganscottpageone.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/Wolverine/astonishingoneloganscottpagetwo.jpg

Okay, the claws came out after the blast, but still, Logan wasn't just fooling around. And it was in Astonishing #1. :)

UraniaChang
05-20-2009, 06:30 PM
For a guy who has been eyeing some other guy's girlfriend for decades (not to mention kissed her twice, among other multiple times of inappropriate behavior), he thought he had some right to lecture? :whatever:

javi1024
05-20-2009, 06:40 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/Wolverine/astonishingoneloganscottpageone.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/Wolverine/astonishingoneloganscottpagetwo.jpg

Okay, the claws came out after the blast, but still, Logan wasn't just fooling around. And it was in Astonishing #1. :)
i love Whedon's dialogue.

GambitXremy
05-20-2009, 07:04 PM
i will always like jean more then emma

Jake Cassidy
05-20-2009, 07:41 PM
X-MEN LEGACY #227
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by DUSTIN WEAVER
Cover by TERRY DODSON
70th Frame Variant by TBA
While San Francisco is still reeling from the onslaught of the Dark Avengers, Rogue struggles to cope with the power and perspective of a God, the young X-student Trance undergoes a terrifying transformation, and X-Men Legacy takes a dramatic new direction.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/138_x_men__legacy_227.jpg

I'm a rogue fan, she's my favourite so I'm excited

According to Carey, Rogue's gonna take on the new Ms. Marvel (Moonstone) as well. She's gonna take out all the Dark Avengers herself. :woot:

Who's Trance?

GambitXremy
05-20-2009, 08:27 PM
Trance is a x-kid

DJSCARLET
05-20-2009, 08:38 PM
a thow away comment isnt calling him on it...Bobby, Warren, Hank and Alex should have pulled him aside and gave him a serious talking to. Yes she was apart of the X-men but at the moment he started locking lips at Jean's grave he showed that his capacity for decision making was gone. He should have stepped down and went on hiatus to get his head straight.
They probably talked to him off panel. :whatever:
That always bugged me too. What's funny is that when ever Jean is mentioned or brought up Emma gets defensive as if Jean was the mistress.
I just think the guys at Marvel like writing and drawing Emma because of her Pamela Anderson likeness.

roach
05-20-2009, 08:45 PM
They probably talked to him off panel. :whatever:
That always bugged me too. What's funny is that when ever Jean is mentioned or brought up Emma gets defensive as if Jean was the mistress.
I just think the guys at Marvel like writing and drawing Emma because of her Pamela Anderson likeness.

the point is they should have been an onscreen conversation...hell Xfactor devoted a whole issue to Jean finding out Scott was married

GambitXremy
05-20-2009, 11:38 PM
the point is they should have been an onscreen conversation...hell Xfactor devoted a whole issue to Jean finding out Scott was married

really what issue?

katie_girl09
05-20-2009, 11:54 PM
You know, its really interesting. I once saw a list of top 10 Marvel couples and Scott and Emma were on the list. As if! I mean, how can you have them on the list but not Rogue and Gambit (hate them as much as you want, you can't deny that before being handled poorly, they were one of the best couples)?
And don't worry guys. I don't really think that they will last. Its only a matter of time before Scott and Jean get back together.

katie_girl09
05-20-2009, 11:54 PM
Double post. Sorry!

Manic
05-20-2009, 11:57 PM
I hope Scott and Jean don't get back together. This is the second time he's tried to move on after her death, and she probably won't want to have sex with him in fear that Emma gave him the clap.

katie_girl09
05-21-2009, 12:02 AM
Hahaha! She probably would have!
Was that mean?

GambitXremy
05-21-2009, 12:05 AM
don't mutants have a natural immunity to human disease.

Funny joke tho 'the clap' HAHAHA

Canemacar
05-21-2009, 01:04 AM
You can only get the clap so many times before it becomes applause.

squeekness
05-21-2009, 09:44 AM
i love Whedon's dialogue.

i will always like jean more then emma
Me, too, on both counts. :)

roach
05-21-2009, 10:45 AM
really what issue?

I'll have to look but the team minus Cyke is in thier Danger room and as they are testing Jean she is asking them questions about Scott and manages to trick them into revealing that he is married

insane polaris
05-21-2009, 12:51 PM
You can only get the clap so many times before it becomes applause.

Haha... Clever.

GambitXremy
05-21-2009, 02:13 PM
I'll have to look but the team minus Cyke is in thier Danger room and as they are testing Jean she is asking them questions about Scott and manages to trick them into revealing that he is married

I wanna see if i can find that issue... sounds like some good reading

BoredGuy
05-21-2009, 02:26 PM
Okay, so uncanny ruins psylocke, armor, nightcrawler, and Legacy will ruin Gambit once again so it can focus on Angst-Girl... Do these writers like any characters besides Scott Emma and Logan (and rogue if your mike carey)?!

GambitXremy
05-21-2009, 02:44 PM
Na i don't think so hahaha

katie_girl09
05-21-2009, 03:19 PM
Okay, so uncanny ruins psylocke, armor, nightcrawler, and Legacy will ruin Gambit once again so it can focus on Angst-Girl... Do these writers like any characters besides Scott Emma and Logan (and rogue if your mike carey)?!
Nope! Oh they LOVE their Emma/Scott. They just keep writing about them hoping to force everyone else to love them. It isn't working for me. I just get pissed off, to be honest.
I really think that all of the characters should have at least one fanboy/fangirl on the staff that can write about them and make them look great.

roach
05-21-2009, 04:05 PM
wait til you read my Xmen story

ChaoticPsylocke
05-21-2009, 05:31 PM
why? whats it about?

Manic
05-21-2009, 05:31 PM
Uncanny hasn't ruined Nightcrawler. It's just turned him into a background character so that he, like Armor, can be saved by The Almighty Pixie. :whatever:

GambitXremy
05-21-2009, 06:28 PM
Uncanny hasn't ruined Nightcrawler. It's just turned him into a background character so that he, like Armor, can be saved by The Almighty Pixie. :whatever:

Ya that was so lame. I like what matt's doing in UXM but that part was so stupid

UraniaChang
05-21-2009, 06:31 PM
Nope! Oh they LOVE their Emma/Scott. They just keep writing about them hoping to force everyone else to love them. It isn't working for me. I just get pissed off, to be honest.
I really think that all of the characters should have at least one fanboy/fangirl on the staff that can write about them and make them look great.

(Current)Rogue and Gambit will never look good, they just make people with right mind vomit.

Cause no men with a sense of dignity would stay with someone like Rogue, or not suffer schizophrenia in the end.

Even though they started kind of cute, but when they past the stage of teasing and tasting the water...

roach
05-21-2009, 07:35 PM
why? whats it about?

Magneto discovers a planet that he wants to turn into a mutant homeworld

katie_girl09
05-21-2009, 09:19 PM
(Current)Rogue and Gambit will never look good, they just make people with right mind vomit.

Cause no men with a sense of dignity would stay with someone like Rogue, or not suffer schizophrenia in the end.

Even though they started kind of cute, but when they past the stage of teasing and tasting the water...
That is an opinion which many will disagree with you about. Rogue and Gambit will never look good you say? They already have. Back when they were placed in the hands of capable writers.

DJSCARLET
05-21-2009, 09:25 PM
Agreed.
Besides its not like ROMY is a bad thing. They did (and still do) make a good couple. It's just a lot of writers like putting the two through the same bs again and again. Its more than ten years and they still go through the same crap. Unlike Emma and Scott who for some reason seem to be an ideal shipper to Marvel (how long have they been a freaking couple?!)
The only writer who can actually write ROMY (and not make me want to pull my hair out) in Chris Claremont.

Manic
05-21-2009, 09:29 PM
Sad but true. Claremont has been off his game for a full decade, but in that time, he's the only person who's written a tolerable Rogue/Gambit.

katie_girl09
05-21-2009, 09:40 PM
Didn't anyone else kinda like Nicieza's treatment? What little he was able to do anyway?

katie_girl09
05-21-2009, 09:42 PM
Agreed.
Besides its not like ROMY is a bad thing. They did (and still do) make a good couple. It's just a lot of writers like putting the two through the same bs again and again. Its more than ten years and they still go through the same crap. Unlike Emma and Scott who for some reason seem to be an ideal shipper to Marvel (how long have they been a freaking couple?!)
The only writer who can actually write ROMY (and not make me want to pull my hair out) in Chris Claremont.
Again, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has noticed the favouritism.

GambitXremy
05-21-2009, 09:54 PM
Didn't anyone else kinda like Nicieza's treatment? What little he was able to do anyway?


Hell ya i love how he wrote remy, he had something big in mind for remy in the gambit Solo book but he had to cut the story sort..

roach
05-21-2009, 10:29 PM
Again, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has noticed the favouritism.

I prefer Gambit and Rogue over Cyke and Emma. Scott and Emma arent destined to be together long...cant be. Their relationship has a faulty foundation. Emma is Scott's rebound girl. You dont date your rebound girl...you use her to get your confidence up and kick her to the curb. I feel like I am watching a really long version of The Count of Monte Cristo and I keep thinking "i cant wait til Jean gets back". Scott Summers showed as much grief for his dead wife as Scott Peterson. It ticks me off that this is getting a pass and no one has brought it up other than Wolverine. The most anyone else did was Rachel changing her last name to Grey in protest.

Canemacar
05-21-2009, 10:36 PM
You can definitely tell the X-office is crammed with Cyke fanboys. They're Mary Sue-ing the hell out of the character.

roach
05-21-2009, 10:50 PM
You can definitely tell the X-office is crammed with Cyke fanboys. They're Mary Sue-ing the hell out of the character.

I dont mind the mary-sueing but be logical with it.

katie_girl09
05-21-2009, 10:52 PM
You can definitely tell the X-office is crammed with Cyke fanboys. They're Mary Sue-ing the hell out of the character.
Mary-sueing is bang on.
*Gag*

Canemacar
05-21-2009, 11:19 PM
I dont mind the mary-sueing but be logical with it.

Mary Sueing is, by definition, illogical. It's premise relies on the entire world revolving around one character, whether it's everyone approving of Cyke betraying Jean and making out on her grave, or Rogue absorbing 6 billion people and becoming a god.

DJSCARLET
05-21-2009, 11:30 PM
I prefer Gambit and Rogue over Cyke and Emma. Scott and Emma arent destined to be together long...cant be. Their relationship has a faulty foundation. Emma is Scott's rebound girl. You dont date your rebound girl...
Much less mary her and have kids who have Gambit eyes. :whatever: Marvel is weird, they break up the two longest and strogest couples (jean x scott and peter parker and mj) just to shake up the status quo for no reason what so ever (and hating the character is not a reason).
you use her to get your confidence up and kick her to the curb. I feel like I am watching a really long version of The Count of Monte Cristo and I keep thinking "i cant wait til Jean gets back". Scott Summers showed as much grief for his dead wife as Scott Peterson. It ticks me off that this is getting a pass and no one has brought it up other than Wolverine. The most anyone else did was Rachel changing her last name to Grey in protest.
Harsh, true though.
I just find it funny that Scott's with someone who is responsible for Jean turning into the Dark Phoenix.
As for Scott turning into mary-sue. Well, its not like Marvel never f-ed up a character for profits before.

squeekness
05-21-2009, 11:58 PM
Didn't anyone else kinda like Nicieza's treatment? What little he was able to do anyway?I loved it myself. His work is the best on Gambit that I have read so far, though Gambit's second ongoing wasn't painful to read, it just wasn't what we'd been promised. It was supposed to be , "James Bond -like" and him pulling thieving jobs, but it wasn't really what we got. :(

UraniaChang
05-22-2009, 07:06 AM
That is an opinion which many will disagree with you about. Rogue and Gambit will never look good you say? They already have. Back when they were placed in the hands of capable writers.


I did say "Current" Rogue and Gambit, meaning if they stay they way are portrayed right now. And I also added that they started "kind of cute".

Read the post thoroughly.

roach
05-22-2009, 07:06 AM
Much less mary her and have kids who have Gambit eyes. :whatever: Marvel is weird, they break up the two longest and strogest couples (jean x scott and peter parker and mj) just to shake up the status quo for no reason what so ever (and hating the character is not a reason).

Harsh, true though.
I just find it funny that Scott's with someone who is responsible for Jean turning into the Dark Phoenix.
As for Scott turning into mary-sue. Well, its not like Marvel never f-ed up a character for profits before.

I like Xtreme Xmen for this reason. Everyone else was just happy to let Emma move in on Scott and Storm was the only one who was stand off ish with her because she remembered what she did to Kitty and her relationship

GambitXremy
05-22-2009, 03:59 PM
I like Xtreme Xmen for this reason. Everyone else was just happy to let Emma move in on Scott and Storm was the only one who was stand off ish with her because she remembered what she did to Kitty and her relationship

but i love how joss wrote kitty and emma in AXM

katie_girl09
05-22-2009, 06:47 PM
I did say "Current" Rogue and Gambit, meaning if they stay they way are portrayed right now. And I also added that they started "kind of cute".

Read the post thoroughly.
That is still an opinion that many would disagree with you about. They, in my eyes, would be fine in the hands of a capable writer. And I bet many of the naysayers would come to love them if they did before.

UraniaChang
05-22-2009, 06:50 PM
That's why I said "Current".

Get over the fact that not everyone has to love this pairing at the moment.

katie_girl09
05-22-2009, 10:26 PM
That's why I said "Current".

Get over the fact that not everyone has to love this pairing at the moment.
Ummm... I never said that everyone did or has to love the pairing in the first place, did I? I merely said that if they had better writers people would not be so "anti-Romy". Such negativity. Perhaps you are the one that needs to get over the fact that not everyone hates them just because you do? I think so...

GambitXremy
05-23-2009, 01:30 AM
Ummm... I never said that everyone did or has to love the pairing in the first place, did I? I merely said that if they had better writers people would not be so "anti-Romy". Such negativity. Perhaps you are the one that needs to get over the fact that not everyone hates them just because you do? I think so...


easy there ladies, can we just agree to disagree

Canemacar
05-23-2009, 01:47 AM
easy there ladies, can we just agree to disagree

NEVER! Death to Romy! Death to the heretics!

*raises pitchfork*

iamlegend
05-23-2009, 02:18 AM
Written correctly, ROMY could have been the most adult and realistic relationship in the entire Marvel Universe.

I mean, seriously, the X-Men writers in the early 90s really worked on ROMY -- it was driven by actual chemistry and emotion, rather than simply sex and monthly sales, like most comic book romances.

But since 1997 or so, it's been garbage. Sad that it happened, but time to move on nonetheless.

UraniaChang
05-23-2009, 05:06 AM
Ummm... I never said that everyone did or has to love the pairing in the first place, did I? I merely said that if they had better writers people would not be so "anti-Romy". Such negativity. Perhaps you are the one that needs to get over the fact that not everyone hates them just because you do? I think so...

Use your own words "That is still an opinion that many would disagree with you about." Or what? You think it only works one-way?

Besides, I never said that they won't work forever, just that the way they are protrayed right now (ie: in the hands of Carey) would never work. Though I have nothing to lose if this pairing does continue, I'll just drop Legacy, that's all.

GambitXremy
05-23-2009, 12:36 PM
the remy and rogue thing hasn't work, in so long.

Rogue should just get with magneto,

Remy should just be with any gal thats around the corner

UraniaChang
05-23-2009, 09:35 PM
Gambit should be the womanizer he was created to be, he's a player, let he play, not sticking with a girl who makes both of them miserable, and making him look like a guy who's only dating a girl he has reason not to touch to avoid coming out of the closet.

You don't see James Bond stick with one girl, and they are (or were) similar in a fictional-character way.

The only Romy I read these days is Katt's fanfic, now that's the relationship I can really enjoy between the two of them.

OutcryX
05-23-2009, 10:34 PM
i agree with urania...gambit is a man whore....and he needs to make up for lost time

rogue can go be by herself with a vibrator..or vision...or can she absorb robots too

OutcryX
05-23-2009, 10:34 PM
i agree with urania...gambit is a man whore....and he needs to make up for lost time

rogue can go be by herself with a vibrator..or vision...or can she absorb robots too

squeekness
05-23-2009, 11:34 PM
I don't think she can absorb robots. That's why in my fanfic I hooked her up with one of my Siskans, they are sentient solid holograms. :) They can play to their hearts' content.

Canemacar
05-23-2009, 11:45 PM
You know what's awesome? A kinetic b****slap.

http://www.gambitguild.com/GGForum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1397

Jake Cassidy
05-24-2009, 12:19 AM
You know what's awesome? A kinetic b****slap.

http://www.gambitguild.com/GGForum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1397



:hehe:

Gambit's ****in' cool

UraniaChang
05-24-2009, 12:32 AM
Too bad he hit the wrong woman.

OutcryX
05-24-2009, 03:19 AM
I don't think she can absorb robots. That's why in my fanfic I hooked her up with one of my Siskans, they are sentient solid holograms. :) They can play to their hearts' content.

you know..they already had one of those in the X-verse right? Shard, Bishop's sister, when she was brought back to life and into the 616, started off as a sentient hologram program that had Bishop's sister's personality downloaded into it...and then she later evolved into a photonic being/mutant. I miss her. she was cool

squeekness
05-24-2009, 11:36 AM
I liked her with Wild Child. :)

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/Wild%20Child/forgottowel.jpg

UraniaChang
05-24-2009, 06:23 PM
Is that Creed?

roach
05-24-2009, 10:12 PM
no it was a another mutant with claws called Wild Child

Canemacar
05-24-2009, 11:55 PM
Creed would snap him like a twig.

roach
05-25-2009, 12:03 AM
if you look at the promo shots of Age of Apocalypse he is the other little mutant Sabretooth keeps on a chain

UraniaChang
05-25-2009, 06:24 AM
no it was a another mutant with claws called Wild Child


Thanks, this reminds me how many more X-comics I need to buy. Was wondering how did Creed manage that kind of pose without wanting to kill himself.:woot:

Hope my bank-account can take the pressure.:csad:

roach
05-25-2009, 08:24 AM
He was on the old X-Factor team when Forge and Mystique were the leaders and they were the government mutant team.

squeekness
05-25-2009, 09:42 AM
He recently showed up in the employ of Romulus, Wolverine's new mysterious bad guy and nemesis. Wild Child, also known as Kyle Gibney, got a nice new upgrade in appearence. I love my ferals in black leather. Yummy --

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/Wild%20Child/wildchildinblack-1.jpg

katie_girl09
05-25-2009, 10:21 PM
Use your own words "That is still an opinion that many would disagree with you about." Or what? You think it only works one-way?
:huh: Now when did I ever say that you weren't allowed to like "Romy"? Where are these random accusations coming from? Lots of people don't and that's fine. I was just stating that there are also a lot who do like them. And that I am against the whole "anti-Romy" attitude that seems to be the new in thing nowadays. I personally believe that their relationship is quite salvageable. And as for Legacy, I've stopped reading already.

katie_girl09
05-25-2009, 10:24 PM
NEVER! Death to Romy! Death to the heretics!

*raises pitchfork*
*Runs from pitchfork mob*

Colossal Spoons
05-25-2009, 10:24 PM
if you look at the promo shots of Age of Apocalypse he is the other little mutant Sabretooth keeps on a chain

WC and Sabretooth fought for hours and after Sabes won, he peed on WC to establish dominance lol

katie_girl09
05-25-2009, 10:26 PM
Gambit should be the womanizer he was created to be, he's a player, let he play, not sticking with a girl who makes both of them miserable, and making him look like a guy who's only dating a girl he has reason not to touch to avoid coming out of the closet.
Hahahahahahahaaaa!
Sorry. :o

GambitXremy
05-25-2009, 11:10 PM
:huh: Now when did I ever say that you weren't allowed to like "Romy"? Where are these random accusations coming from? Lots of people don't and that's fine. I was just stating that there are also a lot who do like them. And that I am against the whole "anti-Romy" attitude that seems to be the new in thing nowadays. I personally believe that their relationship is quite salvageable. And as for Legacy, I've stopped reading already.

You guys sound like me and manic

squeekness
05-25-2009, 11:13 PM
WC and Sabretooth fought for hours and after Sabes won, he peed on WC to establish dominance lolI felt so bad for Kyle. He's always on the bottom of the rank and file when Creed is around. :(

katie_girl09
05-25-2009, 11:18 PM
You guys sound like me and manic
I've never seen you two go at it.

UraniaChang
05-26-2009, 07:06 AM
:huh: Now when did I ever say that you weren't allowed to like "Romy"? Where are these random accusations coming from? Lots of people don't and that's fine. I was just stating that there are also a lot who do like them. And that I am against the whole "anti-Romy" attitude that seems to be the new in thing nowadays. I personally believe that their relationship is quite salvageable. And as for Legacy, I've stopped reading already.


If you're that open-minded why the "It's an opinion that many will disagree with you"?. I don't care if people agree with me or not, but one thing I'm sure is that I don't care about this particular pairing at the moment, but it still doesn't really matter to me if they countinue or not.
It's not me who suffers anyway.
Everyone's opinion can be disageed with, including yours.

squeekness
05-26-2009, 09:28 AM
People take their ROMY very seriously. :( I had at least three people who gushed about how great my fanfic was who abruptly stop reading when they realized that the ROMY wasn't going to happen in my particular verse. You'd think that they'd keep reading anyways and judge on my story's merits, but no, it just took all the fun out of it for them.

UraniaChang
05-26-2009, 09:45 AM
See? It's not me who suffers!

sniktsnakt
05-26-2009, 01:42 PM
Some people just grew up with the Romy couple being something that was a truth between the two characters. Take away Romy, and it's kinda like taking away Wolverine's claws.

It may sound a little overreacting, but I can see where they're coming from.

I'm a pro-Romy, but it still gets annoying every now and again.

squeekness
05-26-2009, 02:00 PM
I disagree in that taking ROMY away isn't the same as taking Logan's claws away. Gambit is his own man and remains his own person without Rogue. In my ROMY-less fanfic, I still get great reviews from those who think I still have a wonderful Gambit even though she isn't in his bed. He isn't defined by her the same way Logan is defined by his claws. Removing her doesn't de-power Gambit in the least. :( We had no ROMY in the latest film and Gambit was still amazing all by himself. :D

sniktsnakt
05-26-2009, 02:21 PM
I disagree in that taking ROMY away isn't the same as taking Logan's claws away. Gambit is his own man and remains his own person without Rogue. In my ROMY-less fanfic, I still get great reviews from those who think I still have a wonderful Gambit even though she isn't in his bed. He isn't defined by her the same way Logan is defined by his claws. Removing her doesn't de-power Gambit in the least. :( We had no ROMY in the latest film and Gambit was still amazing all by himself. :D

Oh I agree that it's not the same as taking WV's claws away, but I know some people who feel that Rogue and Gambit belong together, and if you separate them it destroys part of who they are. They grew up with Gambit and Rogue a "couple-that's-not-a-couple" (or whatever they were), and so that's what they expect and see when they see them.

I don't think that either of their characters should be overly dependent on their relationship, myself. Gambit is my second favorite character no matter who he's around, and Rogue is great on her own too when she's not being too angsty.

Canemacar
05-26-2009, 04:20 PM
Oh I agree that it's not the same as taking WV's claws away, but I know some people who feel that Rogue and Gambit belong together, and if you separate them it destroys part of who they are. They grew up with Gambit and Rogue a "couple-that's-not-a-couple" (or whatever they were), and so that's what they expect and see when they see them.

That attitude is precisely whats caused so much crap for the two in the last decade. No writer wants to do anymore Romy because it sucks, but romy is all Gambit and rogue are good for in the minds of most people, therefore no one wants to use Gambit and Rogue for anything. Gambit moreso than Rogue.

GambitXremy
05-26-2009, 04:41 PM
some writers just dont want to touch the 90's there in love with the late 80's right now

UraniaChang
05-26-2009, 10:28 PM
Kinda like you can't seperate Juliet from Romeo?

Manic
05-26-2009, 10:30 PM
Juliet and Romeo would've lived past 16 if they had slowed it down for about 5 minutes. Half a week, those two knew each other.

Canemacar
05-27-2009, 12:25 AM
Juliet and Romeo would've lived past 16 if they had slowed it down for about 5 minutes. Half a week, those two knew each other.

The most ironic thing about Romeo and juliette is that the play isn't this magical greatest love story of all time people seem to think it is. It's about two stupid kids who decide they're in true love after knowing each other a week and go on to be huge drama queens about it. It's basically a high school crush blown way out of proportion.

The Mighty Thor
05-27-2009, 06:46 AM
I liked ROMY back when it was genuinely entertaining to read, before it degenerated into constant whining that emasculates Gambit and makes Rogue seem like a complete loser. :down:

roach
05-27-2009, 08:26 AM
The most ironic thing about Romeo and juliette is that the play isn't this magical greatest love story of all time people seem to think it is. It's about two stupid kids who decide they're in true love after knowing each other a week and go on to be huge drama queens about it. It's basically a high school crush blown way out of proportion.

Gambit and Rogue knew each other longer than a week before they started dating

Manic
05-27-2009, 12:52 PM
The most ironic thing about Romeo and juliette is that the play isn't this magical greatest love story of all time people seem to think it is. It's about two stupid kids who decide they're in true love after knowing each other a week and go on to be huge drama queens about it. It's basically a high school crush blown way out of proportion.
Thank you! I can't stand it when people talk about Romeo & Juliet like they were the greatest couple in fiction. There's a damn good reason that particular Shakespeare play is a tragedy instead of a comedy/romance.

Beatrice/Benedick from Much Ado About Nothing is my favorite Shakespearean couple, though they're hardly appropriate for a Rogue/Gambit discussion. Who's a good example of an insane chick from a Shakespeare play that some dude is relentlessly trying to get with? Kate from The Taming of the Shrew?

squeekness
05-27-2009, 01:27 PM
10 Things I hate about you, with Heath Ledger. It's a very good modern interpretation of Taming of the Shrew. :)

Manic
05-27-2009, 01:39 PM
So you're saying Gambit is Heath Ledger, and Rogue is Julia Stiles?

squeekness
05-27-2009, 01:42 PM
LOL, something like that yes. :) It was a great film. :D

DJSCARLET
05-27-2009, 08:36 PM
So you're saying Gambit is Heath Ledger, and Rogue is Julia Stiles?
I thought he would have made a great Gambit. :csad:

UraniaChang
05-27-2009, 09:01 PM
Thank you! I can't stand it when people talk about Romeo & Juliet like they were the greatest couple in fiction. There's a damn good reason that particular Shakespeare play is a tragedy instead of a comedy/romance.

Beatrice/Benedick from Much Ado About Nothing is my favorite Shakespearean couple, though they're hardly appropriate for a Rogue/Gambit discussion. Who's a good example of an insane chick from a Shakespeare play that some dude is relentlessly trying to get with? Kate from The Taming of the Shrew?


Umm...but it's inevitable since Romeo and Juliet is the most popular western fictional couple (in East). Even though I never quite like them.

mightiest_mortal
05-28-2009, 04:13 AM
Rogue and Gambit are a terrible terrible couple. A terrible terrible terrible couple. I can't say I've liked either of them for a long time (and Rogue used to be my favourite character).
I've been watching the cartoons again on DVD and it reminded me why I loved the characters back in the 90s. Gambit was cool back then and suave, and Rogue... she was actually fun and interesting. Being in a couple just makes the both of them so depressing... I don't know if theyre even salvageable anymore.

katie_girl09
05-28-2009, 08:32 AM
But again, that is the fault of the writers - not the coupling.

squeekness
05-28-2009, 09:33 AM
I'm not convinced it is salvagable either. :(

sniktsnakt
05-28-2009, 01:39 PM
But at least you're not convinced it's not salvagable, so there's still hope. :up: ;)

roach
05-28-2009, 01:42 PM
I think if they are written as two people and not Remy/Rogue they will be fine

sniktsnakt
05-28-2009, 01:46 PM
I think if they are written as two people and not Remy/Rogue they will be fine

You just hit the nail on the head. Their co-dependence and slinking around each other liked kicked dogs begging for love is what drives me crazy. Rogue used to be crazy-independent and with a 'tude, and Gambit used to be an independent rogue (ha!) scoundrel. Keep that together in their own separate characters, and it *could* work.

I'm waiting for some resolution with Rogue's character, in this series, though. Ever since she lost Ms. Marvel's powers she's been kinda "meh" for me.

And Gambit deserves some time in the spotlight for once. He has been far too abused these last many years.

squeekness
05-28-2009, 01:47 PM
You just hit the nail on the head. Their co-dependence and slinking around each other liked kicked dogs begging for love is what drives me crazy. Rogue used to be crazy-independent and with a 'tude, and Gambit used to be an independent rogue (ha!) scoundrel. Keep that together in their own separate characters, and it *could* work.

I'm waiting for some resolution with Rogue's character, in this series, though. Ever since she lost Ms. Marvel's powers she's been kinda "meh" for me.

And Gambit deserves some time in the spotlight for once. He has been far too abused these last many years.This I agree with. :)

sniktsnakt
05-28-2009, 01:49 PM
This I agree with. :)

We should start an online mob . . . oh, wait. We already have. :)

roach
05-28-2009, 01:49 PM
yeah somehow Rogue needs to get back her Ms Marvel powers

sniktsnakt
05-28-2009, 01:50 PM
yeah somehow Rogue needs to get back her Ms Marvel powers

I don't see any way that that would happen, though, unless Ms. Marvel went rogue (ha!) or something.

(Wow, I am having way too much pun-fun over here).

roach
05-28-2009, 01:57 PM
i think I liked her when she could call upon alll the powers she ever absorbed.

sniktsnakt
05-28-2009, 01:58 PM
i think I liked her when she could call upon alll the powers she ever absorbed.

I thought it was nifty, but it was a little out-of-control, too. How could you find a challenging villain with a combination of all those powers? Besides, it was a bit like Mimic.

Well, no chance of that happening now that she's been wiped clean or whatever by Hope.

roach
05-28-2009, 02:05 PM
yeah well maybe Hope gave her back the Ms Marvel powers
The best way to write Gambit is to write him if he was Sawyer from Lost
I know a book that has Rogue and Gambit as they should be...XMEN FOREVER

Canemacar
05-28-2009, 06:19 PM
Legacy came out today so here's a quick rundown. Spoilers ahoy!

Continuing from the cliff-hanger of last issue, we see Rogue has hi-jacked the Shiar-ship. This pisses tick-man off who attacks the ship but gets blasted. Shiar lady breaks into the ship and beats Rogue like a red-headed step-child.

Danger's story resolution gets crammed into a few quick lines. The decompression from earlier really hurts the story here. Basically, she agrees Xavier did what he could and isn't pissed anymore.

Danger and Xavier work on Rogue's mind,kicking out the Mystique echo, and fixing her power problem. A bit let she kisses Gambit to test them.

No definite status on romy. Carey let it in a "maybe" state.

Gambit does nothing but hover over Rouge, asking if she's okay. Story wouldn't have changed without him.

OutcryX
05-28-2009, 08:39 PM
sooo.....then she can finally control her powers now? i wonder who carey had to blow in order to finally get that done? does this mean...NO MORE ANGST!?!?!

Canemacar
05-28-2009, 08:41 PM
sooo.....then she can finally control her powers now? i wonder who carey had to blow in order to finally get that done? does this mean...NO MORE ANGST!?!?!

Don't be silly. Rogue is angst incarnate. This just means we get new angst for a couple years before the next writer regresses her and goes back to old "can't touch" angst.

Manic
05-28-2009, 08:49 PM
sooo.....then she can finally control her powers now? i wonder who carey had to blow in order to finally get that done?
Nick Lowe and Axel Alonso

javi1024
05-28-2009, 08:50 PM
well i just hope this means we can finally get the "happy-go-lucky but don't screw with me cuz i will kick your ass" Rogue i miss from the 90s. i'll worry about the Ms. Marvel powers later.

katie_girl09
05-28-2009, 09:12 PM
Beatrice/Benedick from Much Ado About Nothing is my favorite Shakespearean couple...
Oh, I LOVE those two. They develop on each other's conceits beautifully!
...
Sorry. I'm just a huge Shakespeare geek. :o

sniktsnakt
05-28-2009, 09:29 PM
Rogue can control her powers?

FINALLY!

Andreth
05-28-2009, 11:10 PM
woah, is this finally happening?
:wow:

that kiss looked so sweet :p
I thought the artwork released was just to fool us but it hapened

squeekness
05-28-2009, 11:52 PM
Well, I got what I expected - the lamest Gambit yet. Mooning over Rogue, wordlessly forgiving her for leaving him behind yet again (the whole Horseman thing where she never checked to see if he was okay....) He's watching over her, making sure she is all okay after her transformation. Where was she for him when he went through not one but TWO transformations -- Death and back again? I ask it again -- WHERE WAS SHE FOR HIM? All this did was make me hate Rogue even more than I did before. I think Carey took away Gambit's balls and brass and someone else needs to write him for a change. That whole ending made me want to puke. :mad:


:(

GambitXremy
05-29-2009, 04:41 PM
It was rogues happy ending kinda. i'm just glad we have one more issue left then Prof. X story line is over

UraniaChang
05-29-2009, 09:09 PM
Well, I got what I expected - the lamest Gambit yet. Mooning over Rogue, wordlessly forgiving her for leaving him behind yet again (the whole Horseman thing where she never checked to see if he was okay....) He's watching over her, making sure she is all okay after her transformation. Where was she for him when he went through not one but TWO transformations -- Death and back again? I ask it again -- WHERE WAS SHE FOR HIM? All this did was make me hate Rogue even more than I did before. I think Carey took away Gambit's balls and brass and someone else needs to write him for a change. That whole ending made me want to puke. :mad:


:(

I bet extreme feminists would consider Rogue as their model.

katie_girl09
05-29-2009, 09:47 PM
YAY!
(Just pissing off Romy-haters :D)

roach
05-29-2009, 10:41 PM
i dont see whats wrong with those two having a relationship

squeekness
05-29-2009, 11:30 PM
i dont see whats wrong with those two having a relationshipYes, because it is so romantic to take your boyfriend for granted, abuse his feelings like he has none, with impunity. :whatever: That dog don't hunt.....

katie_girl09
05-30-2009, 12:10 AM
Jeez, Squeek. Maybe you need to breathe through a paper bag? :p

squeekness
05-30-2009, 12:11 AM
Why? Because I point out the obvious? This is not a healthy relationship and nothing any sensible man should aspire to. :(

katie_girl09
05-30-2009, 12:24 AM
No. Because you're getting so worked up on numerous boards about an imaginary couple who are not autonomous but are written by others.

squeekness
05-30-2009, 12:29 AM
They are still role models, no? I hope Marvel isn't trying to promte this as anything resembling healthy. Kids had best not think this is the way love should be conducted. Where is the mutal respect and efforts on BOTH sides to make things work? Marriages won't last with the guy taking the brunt of an over reactive female all the time. My sister is proof of this, she's such a drama queen and so much like Rogue. She's burned her way through two husbands already and is now working on her third.

katie_girl09
05-30-2009, 12:32 AM
Whoa. Okay, you are taking this way too seriously. They are comic book characters. Just like all characters, their various relationships with one another are gonna be flawed sometimes. You can't expect them to depict perfect relationships.

squeekness
05-30-2009, 12:37 AM
And all the little girlies who find something in Rogue to admire may be admiring the wrong things. "I wish I had a little Gambit of my own to trample over." Geez. What is so great about ROMY when it is all about Rogue and not the other half? I don't like to see my guy so misused and putting up with it. I wouldn't be a proper Gambit fan if I did. :( I wouldn't want to see my kid in a relationship so one sided, either. Perhaps it is just the parent in me. I consider Gambit one of my own and I don't like him being so mistreated without anyone having a say about it.

roach
05-30-2009, 12:38 AM
Really??? I don't think anyone should use any of the Xmen as role models for relationships. The last normal relationship in the xbooks was Warren and Betsy

katie_girl09
05-30-2009, 12:44 AM
No offense, but I think that if a girl in this day and age does something just because she sees it in a comic book/on TV, etc., she probably ain't all that bright to begin with.
And your saying that "Romy" is all about Rogue is one-sided. Rogue fans claimed for a while that it was all about Gambit! Check out Rogue's first limited series if you don't believe it.
I just believe that this is the fault of the writers, not the couple.

katie_girl09
05-30-2009, 12:45 AM
really??? I don't think anyone should use any of the xmen as role models for relationships. The last normal relationship in the xbooks was warren and betsy
qft!

roach
05-30-2009, 12:55 AM
Scott and emma shouldn't have happened but these two are being mary-sued. Storm and BP was done for sales(incidently they got married at the same time marvel disolved the spider marriage because it was done for sales). Hell is anyone else even dating?

Manic
05-30-2009, 01:09 AM
Let's see...

Surge and Prodigy broke up, didn't they? I guess there's Multiple Man & Butterfly.

Manic
05-30-2009, 01:09 AM
Let's see...

Surge and Prodigy broke up, didn't they? I guess there's Multiple Man & Butterfly.

UraniaChang
05-30-2009, 01:15 AM
Superheroes aren't meant to be ideal partners...unless they meet someone who can accept the fact of sharing with the world/other people constantly, and the loneliness.

roach
05-30-2009, 01:28 AM
It worked for Reed and Sue. Scott and Jean were alright until someone decided they were boring. Peter and MJ were doing well also. Clark and lois are managing

Manic
05-30-2009, 01:32 AM
Don't forget Wally and Linda.

squeekness
05-30-2009, 09:29 AM
I rather like the current sparks between Jamie Madrox and Layla. :) That's being handled very well in X-Factor.

roach
05-30-2009, 10:15 AM
isnt Layla like a 10 year old girl

Havok83
05-30-2009, 11:44 AM
isnt Layla like a 10 year old girl
who went to the future and came back as an adult woman

roach
05-30-2009, 12:21 PM
oh ok i dont keep up with Xfactor

mythog
05-30-2009, 09:43 PM
Well, I got what I expected - the lamest Gambit yet. Mooning over Rogue, wordlessly forgiving her for leaving him behind yet again (the whole Horseman thing where she never checked to see if he was okay....) He's watching over her, making sure she is all okay after her transformation. Where was she for him when he went through not one but TWO transformations -- Death and back again? I ask it again -- WHERE WAS SHE FOR HIM? All this did was make me hate Rogue even more than I did before. I think Carey took away Gambit's balls and brass and someone else needs to write him for a change. That whole ending made me want to puke. :mad:


:(


I agree squeekness, to me this issue was one of the worst ones yet. I hope he keeps his word this time and Gambit gets more character development because I really think he got nothing character wise this time.

katie_girl09
05-30-2009, 10:11 PM
Hey, are you the Mythog from Marvel's website too?

mythog
05-30-2009, 10:55 PM
Hey, are you the Mythog from Marvel's website too?


Of course I am, 9 times out of 10 if you see someone posting under the name mythogma or mythog it is me.

squeekness
05-30-2009, 11:49 PM
I agree squeekness, to me this issue was one of the worst ones yet. I hope he keeps his word this time and Gambit gets more character development because I really think he got nothing character wise this time.If I am well supplied with barf bags, I could probably at least tolerate this pairing for a while longer if, like you say, Carey honors his word and gives us some real meat with Gambit. I am going in with a really low expectation so maybe I will be happily surprised. Perhaps Gambit may actually get the apology he so richly deserves. Until then, I will stick to fanfics where people actually know how to write the character that I love.

katie_girl09
05-31-2009, 12:14 AM
Well, don't hold your breath. Carey just loves Rogue way too much for me to see that happening, personally. :( Bring on the barf bags! :p

katie_girl09
05-31-2009, 12:47 AM
Of course I am, 9 times out of 10 if you see someone posting under the name mythogma or mythog it is me.
Oh, I see. Welcome then! :D

DJSCARLET
06-01-2009, 02:48 PM
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0906/01/xmenlegacy225variant.htm
:hehe:
I have the strongest urge to say "I am ready for my close up Mr. Carey." Rogue is my favorite character but this though seem a little OC for her. I can see Marvel giving Emma Frost a cover like this.
Bet Carey's SUPER happy. :bh:
X-men Legacy is now all Rogue all the time.

mythog
06-01-2009, 03:47 PM
I really hate the cover to tell you the truth, her arms are really ridiculous. She looks like she is on steroids.

Canemacar
06-01-2009, 03:55 PM
I've stuck through a lot of bad stuff in the last few years. I've been keeping an eye on the book since Blood of the Apocalypse. And I think I've finally had enough. Rogue 24/7 doesn't interest me, and i'm tired of giving Carey chances to impress me.

mythog
06-01-2009, 04:00 PM
I've stuck through a lot of bad stuff in the last few years. I've been keeping an eye on the book since Blood of the Apocalypse. And I think I've finally had enough. Rogue 24/7 doesn't interest me, and i'm tired of giving Carey chances to impress me.


Hey Cane, I agree 100%. It looks like I am officially done with Legacy as well.

Canemacar
06-01-2009, 04:12 PM
X-men Forever's whats most interesting me at the moment. Claremont may not be as good as he once was, but he's better than some of the writers they have right now. Fraction especially.

roach
06-01-2009, 04:18 PM
I think what has me excited about Forever right now is that this is no strings attached X-men. Sure anyone could die in the main books but you know it aint going to be Wolverine or any of the faves. In this new series anything will and can happen.

mythog
06-01-2009, 04:21 PM
X-men Forever's whats most interesting me at the moment. Claremont may not be as good as he once was, but he's better than some of the writers they have right now. Fraction especially.

After I listened to Claremont's podcast the other day I am starting to think the same thing. It could be interesting to see where he takes Gambit and the changes he makes to Gambits character.

Canemacar
06-01-2009, 04:27 PM
Forever has already sold me based on two things:

1: Wolverine dies, for real, in the first two issues.

2: No Gambit/Rogue romance. It never happened in the first place.

roach
06-01-2009, 04:28 PM
and apparently no Jean dying as Phoenix yet again and no Scott and Emma.

iamlegend
06-01-2009, 04:48 PM
Forever has already sold me based on two things:

1: Wolverine dies, for real, in the first two issues.

2: No Gambit/Rogue romance. It never happened in the first place.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Claremont revisited Gambit/Storm...

roach
06-01-2009, 04:51 PM
i'd rather see Forge/Storm

GambitXremy
06-01-2009, 06:43 PM
Forever has already sold me based on two things:

1: Wolverine dies, for real, in the first two issues.

2: No Gambit/Rogue romance. It never happened in the first place.

damn i read it now sounds good

iamlegend
06-01-2009, 08:07 PM
i'd rather see Forge/Storm

Ehhhh we've done that before. Lets go down avenues that weren't already pursued.

That's the whole point of Forever, right?

Specter313
06-01-2009, 08:39 PM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5353/normalxmenlegacy225deca.jpg

roach
06-01-2009, 08:43 PM
whats wrong with her arm????

iamlegend
06-01-2009, 08:51 PM
whats wrong with her arm????

She bumped into Jose Canseco while in Australia?

Ugh.

Odds Carey gets a blown up version of said cover and hangs it above his bed for all eternity? Anyone?

katie_girl09
06-01-2009, 10:38 PM
All day, every day: The Rogue Channel. :whatever:

ChaoticPsylocke
06-01-2009, 11:06 PM
anyone else find that kinda freaky?

squeekness
06-01-2009, 11:39 PM
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0906/01/xmenlegacy225variant.htm
:hehe:
I have the strongest urge to say "I am ready for my close up Mr. Carey." Rogue is my favorite character but this though seem a little OC for her. I can see Marvel giving Emma Frost a cover like this.
Bet Carey's SUPER happy. :bh:
X-men Legacy is now all Rogue all the time.Ew. :(

Forever has already sold me based on two things:

1: Wolverine dies, for real, in the first two issues.

2: No Gambit/Rogue romance. It never happened in the first place.Got me sold on both counts. :D


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5353/normalxmenlegacy225deca.jpg


*runs for the eyewash* Man, I can't even stand to look at her right now, even if she was drawn well... which she wasn't. :(

JustABill
06-02-2009, 03:04 AM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5353/normalxmenlegacy225deca.jpg

Oh, Rogue, honey. Madonna you ain't. :o

UraniaChang
06-02-2009, 06:02 AM
They are both high maintenance.

Manic
06-02-2009, 07:29 AM
And Madonna did suck the life out of Guy Ritchie's career...

Havok83
06-02-2009, 05:56 PM
So is Legacy morphing from an Xavier solo to a Rogue series?

Canemacar
06-02-2009, 05:58 PM
Yep. You'd think a core X-men book would focus on, well, the X-men wouldn't you?

mythog
06-02-2009, 05:59 PM
So is Legacy morphing from an Xavier solo to a Rogue series?


Yep Mike Carey let it slip on his facebook account. Basically in short he state it will be a Rogue book.

sniktsnakt
06-02-2009, 06:14 PM
Yep Mike Carey let it slip on his facebook account. Basically in short he state it will be a Rogue book.

Mike Carey is on facebook?

mythog
06-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Mike Carey is on facebook?

I didn't know he was on Facebook until I read it on a few other sites. From what been said there are quite few fans on it and occasionally he will answer questions.

DJSCARLET
06-02-2009, 07:33 PM
Yep. You'd think a core X-men book would focus on, well, the X-men wouldn't you?
No, not really.
I mean, some characters always play second fiddle while certain characters always have the spotlight. And it's always the same character(s).

Manic
06-02-2009, 07:44 PM
Yeah, but this is different. Over in Uncanny X-Men, Colossus and Pixie had maybe 3 issue each to focus on them, while Fraction tried to maintain a team-like atmosphere. Carey is writing a solo ongoing series under the guise of a team book.

GambitXremy
06-02-2009, 10:33 PM
But carey did state in a interview that the book would turn into a team book after whatever he wants to do with rouge,


I'm glad something was finally done with rogues powers

Canemacar
06-03-2009, 12:47 AM
No, not really.
I mean, some characters always play second fiddle while certain characters always have the spotlight. And it's always the same character(s).

This isn't a "some characters being a bit more in the spotlight for a few issues" situation Carey's brewing up. It's an "all-Rogue, all-the-time, no one else" situation. Even Wolverine never hogged THAT much panel time.

But carey did state in a interview that the book would turn into a team book after whatever he wants to do with rouge

Can you link me to the interview?

Havok83
06-03-2009, 05:19 AM
Yep. You'd think a core X-men book would focus on, well, the X-men wouldn't you?
well thats disappointing. I was hoping to finally pick the title up again

Harlekin
06-03-2009, 05:59 AM
I really don't mind the solo approach. For one thing, Xavier has finally felt like a character in what, a decade?

UraniaChang
06-03-2009, 06:07 AM
Well, it is better compared to this "The Character" road.

BoredGuy
06-03-2009, 02:04 PM
We should all harass him on facebook, lol....
"Stop it"
"but i like rog..."
"NO Just stop!! you have an addiction, it's unhealthy..."

squeekness
06-03-2009, 02:06 PM
I know! Carey needs an intervention. :p Maybe if he gets over it he'll have Remy get over her too.

BoredGuy
06-03-2009, 02:42 PM
Well, honestly, I'm still a Romy fan when theyre written right...

but yeah, I think we'd have to pry Rogue out of Carey's cold dead hands (and gambit's stuck because of it, hrmm)

Harlekin
06-03-2009, 03:45 PM
This is the first Carey has written Rogue in almost a year. I don't get this all this criticism anyway, since every X-Writer has his pet character.

iamlegend
06-03-2009, 07:50 PM
This is the first Carey has written Rogue in almost a year. I don't get this all this criticism anyway, since every X-Writer has his pet character.

And yet most of them don't turn flagship books into obsession-driven stories about their favorite characters.

Havok83
06-03-2009, 08:10 PM
This is the first Carey has written Rogue in almost a year. I don't get this all this criticism anyway, since every X-Writer has his pet character.
with so many characters just sitting around doing nothing, it seems like a waste to focus one of the core team books on 1 character

Harlekin
06-04-2009, 06:12 AM
I'd rather get a character get some development, rather than have to juggle all the time. Besides, there is Astonishing X-Men and Uncanny X-Men for team-stuff, along with X-Force and X-Factor. That's enough characters getting the spotlight. Besides, it's not like Xavier and Rogue are in a vacuum, we've seen enough characters appear.

Also, yes, Rogue got quite a bit of focus in his X-Men run, but so did Iceman and Cannonball.

Harlekin
06-04-2009, 06:12 AM
I'd rather get a character get some development, rather than have to juggle all the time. Besides, there is Astonishing X-Men and Uncanny X-Men for team-stuff, along with X-Force and X-Factor. That's enough characters getting the spotlight. Besides, it's not like Xavier and Rogue are in a vacuum, we've seen enough characters appear.

Also, yes, Rogue got quite a bit of focus in his X-Men run, but so did Iceman and Cannonball.

mightiest_mortal
06-04-2009, 09:49 AM
Now that Rogue has complete control of her powers they should completely reverse the romy dynamic... so that Gambits powers are accelerated to the point where he cant touch anything or anyone through skin to skin contact or they suddenly charge with kinetic energy and blow up :)

javi1024
06-04-2009, 09:55 AM
I'd rather get a character get some development, rather than have to juggle all the time. Besides, there is Astonishing X-Men and Uncanny X-Men for team-stuff, along with X-Force and X-Factor. That's enough characters getting the spotlight. Besides, it's not like Xavier and Rogue are in a vacuum, we've seen enough characters appear.

Also, yes, Rogue got quite a bit of focus in his X-Men run, but so did Iceman and Cannonball.
Uncanny and Astonishing are basically the same team, and Astonishing comes out so sparingly and is so irrelevant to the rest of the X-universe that you can hardly count it. X-Factor isn't X-Men, i think Peter David and Jamie Madrox have made that abundantly clear, and not everyone likes to read X-Force full of people who hack and slash more than Kratos.

Harlekin
06-04-2009, 10:48 AM
X-Factor may not be X-Men but features X-characters. And I get that not everybody wants to read X-Force, heck, that applies to me as well, but doesn't this count for Legacy too? Different tastes for different people. You've got a team book (Uncanny).

iamlegend
06-04-2009, 04:08 PM
X-Factor may not be X-Men but features X-characters. And I get that not everybody wants to read X-Force, heck, that applies to me as well, but doesn't this count for Legacy too? Different tastes for different people. You've got a team book (Uncanny).

They're all supposed to be team books! Otherwise they'd call it a solo series! Hell, Rogue had one back in the day.

roach
06-04-2009, 04:57 PM
well for me if there are going to be all these xteam books then there should be a reason they exist other than because people buy them. When the xmen shifted to blue and gold teams and the different teams were in each book that made sense. Right now there is no difference between Astonishing and Uncanny.