Official X-FACTOR Discussion Thread

[bryanss3]

Oh ****. Joey Q is talking about X-Factor.



Looks like I am dropping this book after fifty. Cause I don't want to read about how Madrox makes a deal with the devil to set him back decades.

Funny thing is that seems more plausible in X-Factor than it ever could have been in ASM depending on Madrox's mood/dupe. What am I saying Madrox doesn't make decisions.

[Gilpesh]

Funny thing is that seems more plausible in X-Factor than it ever could have been in ASM depending on Madrox's mood/dupe. What am I saying Madrox doesn't make decisions.
It does seem more plausible. But that doesn't mean I want all those wonderful issues of X-Factor I read to not matter anymore.

[bryanss3]

Don't worry Joe Q won't do that to X-Factor. It's pretty obvious Peter David and his ideas are the driving force for that book. I think he'll probably provide either more advertising or possibly give him even more freedom in his stories. Maybe X-factor is going to have a crossover that makes sense story wise. You know how PAD just did an interview where he said he probably won't do any crossovers. Its probably another lie. Well not a real crossover and more of just using the Marvel U to its advantage, but hopefully not dark reign and more like taking advantage of everything he has access too, because this is a marvel book.(example: Dr. Doom in the future and the Summer's rebellion)

[Manic]

I doubt it'd be a Dark Reign tie-in. I think Utopia is only the first in a series of events that'll end Dark Reign.

[El Bastardo]

Oh ****. Joey Q is talking about X-Factor.



Looks like I am dropping this book after fifty. Cause I don't want to read about how Madrox makes a deal with the devil to set him back decades.
Smells like overreacting!

[squeekness]

I doubt it'd be a Dark Reign tie-in. I think Utopia is only the first in a series of events that'll end Dark Reign.I'd be happy to see Dark Riegn go. It's been pretty much boring me to tears except for Daken antagonizing Bullseye which has been hilarious.

[JustABill]

I'm so tired of seeing Norman Osborn everywhere. I'm just ready for his ass to become Green Goblin again and then have him die again like he should be in the first place. He's not done much of nothing since his return from death/clone saga but bad stories anyways. :o

[Specter313]

And we have our answer to the mystery. The book is getting the re-numbering treatment up to #200! Story below:


Today in Toronto at Fan Expo Canada 2009, Marvel revealed the answer to the “Where’s X-Factor?” mystery with the announcement that X-Factor would be the next Marvel title to receive a numeral facelift. A number of fans and retailers were shocked when Marvel released solicitations for November 2009 and X-Factor was not listed. Now, a number of new questions are probably on the minds of fans of the X-lines quirkiest book: Is the cast changing? Will Peter David still be writing the book? Where is X-Factor Investigations going? Well, from the looks of things, things will be remaining unchanged...for the most part. X-Factor is moving back into New York City and their new client is none other than Franklin Richards!

Newsarama spoke with Peter David about the upcoming re-numeration of X-Factor and about the winds of changes which seem to be blowing slightly in the direction of Marvel’s mutant detective agency.

Newsarama: X-Factor has been kind of listening to the beat of their own drummer on the fringe of the X-line for a vast majority of the series; in December, with the series being re-numerated back to its original sequence with #200, how are things going to change? Or are things going to be staying the same?

Peter David: Mostly I'm going to be mindful that new people may be coming on board to check out the series and will be making sure that it's as reader-friendly as humanly—or even superhumanly—possible.

Also, I'm going to be endeavoring to make sure that the series has its finger more on the pulse of what's going on in the Marvel Universe; which isn't to say we're suddenly going to turn into crossover central. I just don't want people to feel as if the events are happening in a vacuum.

Nrama: Are you pleased with Marvel's choice to return the series to its original sequence? Or do you feel that taking the book and changing it detracts from your run on a wholly separate set of stories that aren't necessarily in line with the old X-Factor title?

David: Honestly? I don't have any strong feelings about it. If I had my way, comics would do away with ongoing numbering entirely. I think the model has changed so significantly that the practice has outlived its usefulness. I would just start every "season" over with a #1, have it run through #12 of that year, and then next year begin again. In the case of X-Factor, I don't think it detracts from anything. I think the main advantage of it is that it prompts guys from Newsarama to say, "Hey! Marvel's bumping X-Factor to #200! Let's do some interviews about that because it's a newsworthy event!" How's that working out so far?

Nrama: (laugh) Well, I guess you’ve kind of got me there...

Now that Madrox and crew have moved back into the thick of in New York City, will X-Factor be interacting with more of the Marvel Universe?

David: Form follows function. The notion was that we wanted to have X-Factor interacting more with the MU, and that was hard to do with them being off in Detroit. It's not like they have airplanes at their disposal. So we relocated them back to NY because that's where the action is.

Nrama: What can you tell readers about the upcoming arc that starts in X-Factor #200?

David: We're starting with most of the team already back in NY, because I can't think of anything more boring than charting every dramatic beat of them relocating. Most of the team is there, but there are a couple of significant exceptions. And over the first few issues, story developments will occur that will pull them together.

The initial storyline is called "The Invisible Woman has Vanished." Ever see the classic detective thing where a kid shows up to hire the PI? That's what we're doing: The Richards kids show up to hire the team to find their mom, even though their dad is insisting that there's no problem and it's nothing they should concern themselves about. And things just roll from there.

Nrama: Has the cast of X-Factor finally stabilized for the time being or will their be any more new additions to the team with their return to the Big Apple?

David: If we add any more members, we're going to have to split it into X-Factor Red and X-Factor Blue, so no.

Nrama: What are some of the perks of being able to include characters like the Fantastic Four into one of X-Factor's investigations?

David: The FF were the very first Marvel characters whose adventures I ever read, so it's a kick to get to play with these characters in the pages of X-Factor. Plus there's the obvious marketing advantage of guest starring characters who come with their own readership; obviously I hope FF fans will be intrigued by what they see in X-Factor and want to keep with the book even after the guest appearances.

Nrama: What other sorts of struggles and conflicts can readers look forward to seeing as the new status quo for the team unfolds?

David: The team has some internal personality conflicts that are going to have to be worked out. Madrox and Siryn still have some trust issues, Monet is uncertain as to whose side she should be on, and Guido feels threatened by Shatterstar's presence since he feels as if hand to hand combat should be his schtick, plus he's still annoyed because he feels blindsided by the Shatterstar/Rictor pairing.

Nrama: Will X-Factor have any artistic changes starting with issue #200? Are you aware of any fresh young artists that you'd like to work with on the book that you haven't had the opportunity to work with yet?

David: Yes, we will have a new artist for #200. I'll let Marvel get into the specifics of who it's going to be. As for fresh young artists, I can’t think of anyone in specifically. I think there's a lot of talent out there and I'm happy to work with anyone who can nail their deadlines and tell the story in an exciting manner.

Nrama: What is it about this assemblage of characters that makes writing this book so much fun?

David: They're an eclectic group with a lot of potential drama.

Nrama: There is still lots of unfinished business going on in the current X-Factor storyline with issue #48 hitting shelves very soon; will all the current mysteries be solved by #200?

David: A number of them will be. But the resolution of #50 is designed to provoke even more discussion of, "Okay, we know what happened, but WHY did that happen?" I like to introduce another question for every answer that I present.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080929-Fan-Expo-X-Factor.html

[Manic]

If the new artist for #200 is Larry Stroman, I swear on a stack of comics, I will burn Marvel Comics' HQ down to the ground.

[Gilpesh]

Whew. But hopefully that 'finger on the pulse' thing is just a line to get editors off this book's back.

And that numbering thing he talks about sounds a lot like what Hellboy and B.P.R.D. do.

If the new artist for #200 is Larry Stroman, I swear on a stack of comics, I will burn Marvel Comics' HQ down to the ground.
And that. I hope that doesn't happen.

[squeekness]

Good to know the Shatterstar/Rictor pairing ain't goin' nowhere. :D

[Manic]

After Rob Liefeld's reaction, I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Quesada and Peter David decided to keep Shatterstar and Ric a couple out of pure spite.

[squeekness]

Fine by me! :D

[El Bastardo]

And that numbering thing he talks about sounds a lot like what Hellboy and B.P.R.D. do.

It doesn't sound at all like what Hellboy and BPRD do. Those two series run in serialized minis, essentially - different adventures, with specific numberings, not at all having to do with what year or season they come out during. It's more to make them more like pulps.

Peter David just thinks numbering should be done away with, and he said as much. His "example" of numbering is just a matter of numbering things arbitrarily if they must be numbered.

[Gilpesh]

It doesn't sound at all like what Hellboy and BPRD do.
One story arc that goes from a new number one and then ends when the story arc ends?

Sounds similar enough for me to compare it to. :o

[El Bastardo]

Do you often compare apples to oranges because they're both fruit? Bananas are like tomatos! They're both fruit as well.

Peter David: "I would just start every 'season' over with a #1, have it run through #12 of that year, and then next year begin again."

He says nothing of story arcs, unless he's trying to use the term "season" to mean like a television season, which is stupid, because - HEY! big surprise! comics aren't television!

Over the course of twelve months, numerous story arcs could be written, so nosir, they are not the same, and Peter David is being a dummy if he's using the term "season" to mean that. Hmph.

[Gilpesh]

Do you often compare apples to oranges because they're both fruit?
Yes. :o

[El Bastardo]

You silly, silly man.

But what about bananas and tomatos? Wood and wool?

[Gilpesh]

But what about bananas and tomatos? Wood and wool?
That's just crossing a line, sir. :cmad:

But it does seem similar enough to me. Or that's just me being a little peeved that Hellboy stories take so long to come out cause it feels like a year for each arc.

[El Bastardo]

And the new story IS a year.

Doo doo doo - the mystery thickens!

[Generation Lee]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Its staying and they're back in NY and like the other band of merry mutants they're intergrating back into the MU. PAD will know how to keep it they way it was I trust him I'm just glad its not ending.

[mightiest_mortal]

Yay! its not cancelled!


btw.. Am i the only one that read last weeks "Wolverine : First Class" ??

I wouldnt normally have picked it up but it was actually a pretty good Multiple Man story, that leads well into the Madrox series. Think the writer is clearly a fan of X-Factor.

Would definately recomend.

[Darthphere]

I totally think Marvel is plannign a big push for X-Factor into the forefront.

[OutcryX]

Disney's Marvel's X-Factor

[Kevin]

Yay! its not cancelled!


btw.. Am i the only one that read last weeks "Wolverine : First Class" ??

I wouldnt normally have picked it up but it was actually a pretty good Multiple Man story, that leads well into the Madrox series. Think the writer is clearly a fan of X-Factor.

Would definately recomend.
Doesn't PAD write both books?

[mightiest_mortal]

Doesn't PAD write both books?

Oh yeah, didnt notice :O oops, does explain a lot though.

Everyone go and buy it : Wolverine First Class #18. Its a great prelude to the Madrox Series!

[squeekness]

Yeah, but isn't the First Class stuff not exactly canon where the Madrox mini is...?

[mightiest_mortal]

Yeah, but isn't the First Class stuff not exactly canon where the Madrox mini is...?

Who knows, don't know how there even is a cannon anymore with people like Wolverine on so many different teams and so many different solo adventures all at the same time.

Tis a good read anyway though.

[squeekness]

I skipped it only because I get too many X books as it is. I figured why buy a retconned book when I can hardly keep up with what is going on now? :p

[Noona]

David says that while all the title's characters appear in the very first issue, they won't necessarily all be in the same place. However, the writer promises that he plans to stream a plot together that eventually reunites the entire team. Similarly, the move to New York also allows for more guest appearances in the book, whether in the form of brief cameos or as potential clientele. In fact, David teases that longtime fans should prepare themselves for the possible reappearance of a former X-Factor cast member: the silver-haired speedster Quicksilver.

"I think it's safe to say that they will cross paths at some point."
Anyone excited by the return of Quicksilver ? I find him to be very intresting & PAD writes him pretty well.. :)
If u want to read the rest here u go
http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9329.Fan_Expo_Canada_%7Eapos%7E09%7Ec olon%7E_X-Factor_%23200

[RockSP]

If u want to read the rest here u go
http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9329.Fan_Expo_Canada_%7Eapos%7E09%7Ec olon%7E_X-Factor_%23200

:huh: Since when is Franklin a genius? Valeria is the smart one...

[Gilpesh]

So ****ing happy that Quicksilver will be back. I have him to blame for me getting back into single issues instead of trade waiting. :cmad:

[OutcryX]

so they gonna play Franklin out as something of an idiot savant then?

[RockSP]

Would've made sense just to use Valeria...

[OutcryX]

Valeria sounds soo much like some kind of incurable disease.

[Manic]

Which is why she's referred to as Val 90% of the time.

[Noona]

So ****ing happy that Quicksilver will be back. I have him to blame for me getting back into single issues instead of trade waiting. :cmad:

High Five !! :applaud

[Havok83]

Quicksilver is coming back to this book? If thats the case I may have to actually pick it up again

[Havok83]

Quicksilver is coming back to this book? If thats the case I may have to actually pick it up again

[squeekness]

Why would you ever drop this book? It's the best X-book out there right now. :p

[Havok83]

Why would you ever drop this book? It's the best X-book out there right now. :p
bc it got boring as hell. I never saw the great appeal for it or PAD but it was mildly entertaining in the beginning, and wasnt much better or worse than what else was being pushed out so I read it. However once Messiah Complex was over, it just took a nosedive and I left.

[Manic]

So you missed Jamie's dead baby, the return of Layla as an adult, and all the Ruby Summers goodness?

[Havok83]

Layla was the character I couldnt stand the most when I read and its a shame that they only got rid of her after I left, but now I hear that she is back. I saw Ruby in a oneshot that was released and didnt like her either. Im surprised that she is back playing a bigger role.

[Manic]

Oh. Wow. Nevermind.

[Havok83]

So back to my original question. Quicksilver is coming back? If so when?

[Noona]

So back to my original question. Quicksilver is coming back? If so when?
Here is the answer to ur question -----> David says that while all the title's characters appear in the very first issue, they won't necessarily all be in the same place. However, the writer promises that he plans to stream a plot together that eventually reunites the entire team. Similarly, the move to New York also allows for more guest appearances in the book, whether in the form of brief cameos or as potential clientele. In fact, David teases that longtime fans should prepare themselves for the possible reappearance of a former X-Factor cast member: the silver-haired speedster Quicksilver.
"I think it's safe to say that they will cross paths at some point."

So Peter David in another interview was talking about quicksilver coming back soon after issue 50 going back to old count starting off with #200 ...because the original x-factor would reach it's #200

If u want to read the rest here u go
http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9329.Fan_Expo_Canada_%7Eapos%7E09%7Ec olon%7E_X-Factor_%23200

Hope that answered ur question Havok83 by the way I did the exact same thing with x-factor I dropped it the same time u did and wasn't fond of Layla Miller at all and what i heard about Ruby summers didn't get my attention at all.. But as soon as Quicksilver is back i"m going to get it on my pull list :)

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #48


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro, Pat Davidson
COLORS BY Jeromy Cox
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, September 16th, 2009

Cortex stands revealed! Or does he? The plan of the president’s science team threatens Madrox and Layla! Or does it? Shatterstar gets a milkshake! Or does he? It’s all going according to the plan of Doctor Doom! Or is it?

[OutcryX]

his milkshake brings all the boys to the yard...or just Rictor.

Perhaps Rictor buys the milkshake for him, like Fifty Cent did for Ma$e in that video...

[Manic]

Oh, Tryp. I've missed you so much.

[bryanss3]

I want a milkshake. Especially if 50 or Ma$e are involved. Harlem World!

[ChaoticPsylocke]

i too could go for a banana milkshake

[bryanss3]

Depending on how well X-Force and New Mutants do for the next few years I wonder if they'll go into original numbering?

[mightiest_mortal]

Looks like another amazing issue, and that things are coming together ready for issue 50 :)

[shameless plug]

For anyone unaware of my "Make your own Marvel Models thread", I've just updated with a Madrox model (or 3) that you can download and make yourself at my mypaperheroes blog (http://mypaperheroes.blogspot.com)

http://www.xavierleo.co.uk/mad.jpg

Theres SO little if any Madrox merchandise that he's been consistantly one of the most requested characters.

[/shameless plug]

[Gilpesh]

That issue was all sorts of awesome. Bored indeed. :eek:

[Specter313]

X-Factor is moving back to NY – will they be checking in on the Westchester grounds at all? What's their plan going to be there? And will they have more, less, or the same amount of involvement with the greater X-Universe?

JODY LEHEUP: As of issue #200, X-Factor will be broadening their horizons a bit and really becoming more of a detective agency for the Marvel Universe as a whole, not just the mutant population. So expect to see a lot more familiar faces from the superhuman community.


Will they still be a part of the X-Universe? Of course, just not in an exclusive capacity. As for Westchester, there’s definitely been talk of paying the X-Men’s old stomping grounds a visit, but it’s probably not something that you’ll be seeing out of the gate. Definitely keep reading though. Big things coming…


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22961

[Colossal Spoons]

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X-FACTOR #200
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by BING CANSINO
Cover by ESAD RIBIC
Variant Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Variant Cover by RYAN SOOK
"The Invisible Girl Has Vanished"
X-Factor has relocated back to New York, and their first client is a keeper: Franklin Richards, whose mom has disappeared and who figures that the premiere detective agency in the Marvel Universe has the best chance of finding her. Except Reed Richards doesn't seem especially cooperative in helping them locate his missing wife. What is he hiding, and does it have anything to do with the coming Darkness? Meanwhile, Val Cooper has some bad news for Monet: Her ambassador father has been taken prisoner by terrorists, and she has less than 24 hours to find him before he winds up getting his head cut off on video.
104 PGS./New & Reprint/Rated T+ …$4.99

[Colossal Spoons]

I wonder who the blonde guy and girl are. Layla and Longshot?

[Manic]

The blonde girl has an "M" over her eye, so yeah I think that's Layla.

It looks like the team is wearing costumes again.

It also appears the new artist will be the guy who's doing Dark X-Men: The Confession. We're gonna miss you, Valentine DeLandro!

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #200
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by BING CANSINO
Cover by ESAD RIBIC
Variant Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Variant Cover by RYAN SOOK
"The Invisible Girl Has Vanished"
X-Factor has relocated back to New York, and their first client is a keeper: Franklin Richards, whose mom has disappeared and who figures that the premiere detective agency in the Marvel Universe has the best chance of finding her. Except Reed Richards doesn't seem especially cooperative in helping them locate his missing wife. What is he hiding, and does it have anything to do with the coming Darkness? Meanwhile, Val Cooper has some bad news for Monet: Her ambassador father has been taken prisoner by terrorists, and she has less than 24 hours to find him before he winds up getting his head cut off on video.
104 PGS./New & Reprint/Rated T+ …$4.99

[TwilightPro101]

I'm extremely behind on this particular title. Last issue I actually picked up was Layla's return as an adult, but I'm beyond eager and looking forward to the new direction as of issue 200. Really hoping that David explores this new angle to its fullest.

[Havok83]

I dont like that this went with the originals' numbering but thats one great cover. I also like that Monet is looking less vanilla there

[JustABill]

I don't like that they made all the guys ugly. Lol.

[Havok83]

the only ugly one I see is Strong Guy and well Darwin goes without saying

[squeekness]

They all look mad. Rictor is pouting. :p

[JustABill]

Rictor and Madrox use to be much much better looking, now they look really really mean and old.

[squeekness]

It's the artist. The regular guy made Rictor look almost sexy. :p

[Gilpesh]

That's what happens, Bill. People get mean and old. :cmad:

[squeekness]

Rictor has no reason to be mad, his boy Shatterstar is back. :D

[Gilpesh]

It looks like they broke up. :csad:

[Havok83]

LOL...I love the look on Jamie's face

[squeekness]

It looks like they broke up. :csad:They had better not. :cmad:

[squeekness]

LOL...I love the look on Jamie's faceLOL, he looks like he just crapped his pants. :p

[Specter313]

LOL...I love the look on Jamie's face

Heh, he almost looks a little like Conan O'Brien.

[JustABill]

Exactly!!! Ewwwwwwww. :(

[Manic]

I also like that Monet is looking less vanilla there
Hey, you're right. For once she looks darker than Rictor.

Heh, he almost looks a little like Conan O'Brien.
"Be cool, my babies!"

[bengan]

Why doesn´t Madrox have his M över his eye?

[OutcryX]

this lineup actually isnt bad at all..except for Siryn...who should go see if she can catch Kitty's magic bullet....i am guessing no Ruby in the 616. too. many. of. my. favorite. characters. to continue. to ignore......

[Manic]

I haven't exactly had high hopes for Ruby coming to the present timeline. We're sorta at capacity for Summers family members.

Scott, Alex, Rachel, Nathan, Nate, Gabriel, and Hope (adopted).

[Havok83]

I haven't exactly had high hopes for Ruby coming to the present timeline. We're sorta at capacity for Summers family members.

Scott, Alex, Rachel, Nathan, Nate, Gabriel, and Hope (adopted).
I vote for almost half of those getting killed off

[RockSP]

I haven't exactly had high hopes for Ruby coming to the present timeline. We're sorta at capacity for Summers family members.

S@#$, over capacity.

Which means she'll end up in the present, natch.

[JustABill]

Sadly I've come around to most of the Summers Bloodline. I'm still iffy on Rachel and Cable and I just ****ing hate Vulcan.

[Manic]

I'd be happy if we only had Scott, Alex, Nathan, and Rachel. Maybe Hope if there's a chance they could make her one of the teenage New/Young kids, but I'd take Ruby over Hope.

[Noona]

Nate Grey is back
http://marvel.com/i/content/st/28688new_storyimage3126578_full.jpg

[Havok83]

I'd be happy if we only had Scott, Alex, Nathan, and Rachel. Maybe Hope if there's a chance they could make her one of the teenage New/Young kids, but I'd take Ruby over Hope.
I like Hope. Id get rid of Vulcan, Nate Grey and Rachel

[OutcryX]

Nate Grey is awesome..kill cable..permanently..to make room for Nate

[Manic]

I say keep Rachel, but send her back to the UK and make her join MI:13.

[RockSP]

Scott and Alex. The end.

[Havok83]

Nate Grey is awesome..kill cable..permanently..to make room for Nate
Nate got killed off and sent to limbo for a reason. He should have stayed there

[Generation Lee]

I'll say it again Jean needs Cable maddie and X-Man to merge with her or she'll never be whole they are pieces taken fro her oh and add Strife as well. There half the kids dealt with and rachel is begging to become an Excile or at least let them send her home lol.

[ChaoticPsylocke]

i dont think so... i mean Maddie yes. but to an extent as well. i mean she was cloned from Jean, not the Phoenix. so she can still be alive, even though she does have like some kind of access or something to the Phoenix Force. and Cable is the son of Maddie. not Jean or the Phoenix.

and then Nate is from another timeline altogether. like Rachel.

[Manic]

Besides, Jean already got everything she needed from Rachel. During Kingbreaker, Rachel and Korvus lost their access to the Phoenix Force.

[OutcryX]

so..it's only a matter of time now (well, it always was, but sooner now, rather than later) before Jean makes her big return...and Hope is all growed up now...and part 3 of the Messiah crap is approaching....hmmmmz

[Colossal Spoons]

Outcry is on the case!

[Havok83]

I'll say it again Jean needs Cable maddie and X-Man to merge with her or she'll never be whole they are pieces taken fro her oh and add Strife as well. There half the kids dealt with and rachel is begging to become an Excile or at least let them send her home lol.
Maddie did merge with Jean back in Inferno, but somehow Marvel forgot that in the 90s and brought her back

[Colossal Spoons]

Besides, Jean already got everything she needed from Rachel. During Kingbreaker, Rachel and Korvus lost their access to the Phoenix Force.

Oh yeaaah

[Manic]

I loved that as soon as Korvus lost his Phoenix powers, that big honkin' sword of his became too heavy to lift.

[Amashelle]

Okay, so I am WAY behind on this series... mainly 'cause I stopped reading when the original team disbanded :-/ So forgive me for what seems like a change in topic from the above posts, but i just had a quick question and this looks like the best place to ask...

*deep breath* Sorry, I'm longwinded.

Does anyone know what X-Factor issues (#xx to xx?) featured Quicksilver as a member of the team? I've read that he was a later addition to the new team, but that was on Wiki, and I don't really put too much faith on what I read there, and it didn't give me issue numbers to frame his appearence, and since I'm lazy and don't want to go flipping through every issue I see in the bins, I thought it would be best to ask people who might know.

[Havok83]

Okay, so I am WAY behind on this series... mainly 'cause I stopped reading when the original team disbanded :-/ So forgive me for what seems like a change in topic from the above posts, but i just had a quick question and this looks like the best place to ask...

*deep breath* Sorry, I'm longwinded.

Does anyone know what X-Factor issues (#xx to xx?) featured Quicksilver as a member of the team? I've read that he was a later addition to the new team, but that was on Wiki, and I don't really put too much faith on what I read there, and it didn't give me issue numbers to frame his appearence, and since I'm lazy and don't want to go flipping through every issue I see in the bins, I thought it would be best to ask people who might know.
Quicksilver has never been a member of this current incarnation of X-factor. He made a few appearances between #8-23 but he was more of an advesary

[Gilpesh]

****ing hell yes. :up:

That's my rating for this issue. All of Guido's lines were great and so was the end of the issue.

[squeekness]

It was awesome. :D PAD is wonderful with dialogue. But I do have to wonder, was Jamie the only one to realize that Ric and Quicksilver were more than friends? I mean, why was Guido so surprised that Ric was bi?

[JustABill]

I still miss old Layla. Grown Layla's just too weird.

[OutcryX]

So...did Quicksilver and Ric get it on once b4 too? off panel of course...Quicksilver and all that stamina...poor Rictor

[squeekness]

So...did Quicksilver and Ric get it on once b4 too? off panel of course...Quicksilver and all that stamina...poor RictorIt was implied, yes. :)

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[ChaoticPsylocke]

thats a cute scene.

[Generation Lee]

I loved the Rictor, Shatterstar D+Strong Guy interaction, seriously PAD outdid himself on this add that was the comming tradegy in the future this made for a great issue.

[squeekness]

PAD is a lot like Joss Whedon that he gives us strong characters and amazing dialoge. This is still one of my favorite X-books. It knocks the socks off of Uncanny that is just boring me all to tears right now. :p

[OutcryX]

rictor gets around

[Generation Lee]

PAD is a lot like Joss Whedon that he gives us strong characters and amazing dialoge. This is still one of my favorite X-books. It knocks the socks off of Uncanny that is just boring me all to tears right now. :p

The only thing that keeps me reading is his Cyclops seriously I got the Cyclops from Spiderman and his amazing friends then as I got older the 90's Scott of Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean came about and he was soooooooooooooooo under used in Evolution and the films and now Wolverine and those other guys we at Marvel don't give a crap about lol.

After reading the latest Uncanny I'm still not sure what the new statues is.

Anyway I love PAD he is like Weadon, when I read X-Factor I feel like I'm watching Buffy and Angel which I still love to this day God I was he'd write an issue of that comic if he could.

[Manic]

The only thing that keeps me reading is his Cyclops seriously I got the Cyclops from Spiderman and his amazing friends then as I got older the 90's Scott of Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean came about and he was soooooooooooooooo under used in Evolution and the films and now Wolverine and those other guys we at Marvel don't give a crap about lol.

The term "run-on sentence" doesn't quite capture what I've just read. Use a period.
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[Specter313]

Anyway I love PAD he is like Weadon, when I read X-Factor I feel like I'm watching Buffy and Angel which I still love to this day God I was he'd write an issue of that comic if he could.

He works on some other properties for other companies too, plus I'm Marvel still has a good relationship with Whedon, so I don't see why he couldn't write an issue or arc. Maybe once season 9 of Buffy starts up.

[Specter313]

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Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by CHRISTIAN MACNEVEN
Utopia. The sanctuary for mutants to escape a world that wants them extinct. So is it the ideal home for X-Factor? That's what Cyclops believes when he invites the world's only mutant detective agency to relocate to their floating island retreat and take up residence there. But will Madrox and his team believe that it's the best place for them? What old faces will pop up, and what old acquaintances will be renewed? And will there even be a Utopia left when the mysterious Crone shows up and threatens to bring the entire place crashing down into the Pacific?
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[Havok83]

I hope Jamie tells him to go to hell. Im getting sick of Dictator X

[Specter313]

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Something is rotten in the state of Latveria. How does it relate to the disappearance of the Invisible Woman? How does it involve Layla Miller, and is she now an ally of Doctor Doom, with all of her precious knowledge at his disposal? Will Madrox learn exactly who is buried beneath that mysterious grave? And will you buy the issue in order to find out? We dunno; what're we, psychic?
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[Manic]

I hope X-Factor calls Cyclops "Scotty" again. I loved how they kept mocking him the last time.

[Havok83]

Did Siryn ever accept the fact that her father died? Would suck if she saw the zombied TO revived version of him in Necrosha

[cerealkiller182]

I think so. I kinda remember saying something along the lines "You think I don't know my fathers dead? Of course I know"

[Manic]

She accepted her father's death as she held her son in her arms.

Yeah, awkward.

[Colossal Spoons]

Why does Jamie hate Cyclops so much?

[Manic]

Cyclops is rather pompous, and he assumes authority over X-Factor just because he thinks he can. He sent a team into Mutant Town without consulting Jamie's team (and it was well known that X-Factor protected Mutant Town at the time), and I'm pretty sure Jamie is royally pissed at Scott for what he did to him in Messiah CompleX. Jamie didn't know his dupes would have to die to send information back to him before Scott and Forge sent them into the future, and it's rather unfair to ask Jamie to go through multiple death traumas without asking him first.

Basically, Scott's been an A-hole lately. Hell, I'm still trying to figure out why he won't let Charles expose Mystique to clear his name.

[chris moore]

I think maybe Jamie telling Scott about his foray into the future will go a ways in rebuilding their friendship (if they ever really had one - aside from Jamie working closely with Havok, I dont think he and Scott have ever really worked together or even been on the same team). If Scott knows that even 80 years from now, he needed Jamie to help solve the mystery of where his people were disappearing to, then it might help in accepting that Jamie's talents and way of doing things are potentially invaluable to him.

I'm not saying Scott should try to make X-Factor Utopia's police force or anything as that will just push Jamie further and establish that Scott thinks he can just tell any mutant what to do. But to come to Jamie as and when he needs it rather than stubbornly refusing to include Madrox in anything and believeing he can fix anything himself.

[Havok83]

I hate the whole idea of Utopia and how the X-men have pretty much been building up their own Genosha there. I hate the segregation and I hate how Cyclops has assumed authority over everyone. Whats even worse is that no one stands up to him and they all blindly follow him with no opinion to counteract his. Its been highly unrealistic. What Im going to enjoy here is Jamie being that other opinion bc he doesnt bow down to Lord Summers. He's not afraid to tell him how he thinks and if he opposes Nation X, he and X-factor wont relocate and operate under Scott's authority. Scott is ridiculous to think that he can come and get them under his control.

[JustABill]

You'd think someone with balls would step up and go ''Scott, maybe this ain't right."

Wolverine, Beast, and Storm in the past would have all told Scott what he was doing might be the wrong path to follow.

[Manic]

You can see the stroke building up in Beast. He's clearly had enough of Scott's crap.

[Havok83]

You'd think someone with balls would step up and go ''Scott, maybe this ain't right."

Wolverine, Beast, and Storm in the past would have all told Scott what he was doing might be the wrong path to follow.
Storm had a little outburst in the issue before the latest one. I thought it would be to stand up to Scott's leadership, but nope, she wasted that oppurtunity at picking a meaningless cat fight with Emma,. I thought Beast was about to do it when he confronted Scott in his bedroom about his lies and secrets but that seemed to be dropped with Beast letting things slide and not bringing things up. Wolverine thankfully got a scene where he did attack Scott in X-force a few months ago but they didnt get into quite like they should have

[Manic]

That cat fight still doesn't make any sense to me. A few issues back, Emma started complaining about Scott not treating her like his co-leader, so Storm suggested Emma start acting like a leader. Now Storm's all pissed off because she doesn't see why Emma is in a leadership position. Same writer, 10 issue gap. Figure that one out.

[Havok83]

That cat fight still doesn't make any sense to me. A few issues back, Emma started complaining about Scott not treating her like his co-leader, so Storm suggested Emma start acting like a leader. Now Storm's all pissed off because she doesn't see why Emma is in a leadership position. Same writer, 10 issue gap. Figure that one out.
made no sense bc of how random it was. If Storm is so upset about Emma in a leadership position, why doesnt she stand up and actually be a leader again? For the longest time she was THE leader and now she's like a foot soldier obeying her commands. I dont care much for Emma as a leader but if Storm isnt willing to take on that role for herself (and she's more than capable of it), then she needs to sit down and fall back bc she only made herself look petty and silly in that scene

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Worlds and times collide in this double-sized conclusion to the year long storyline that has revitalized X-Factor. Will the Summers Rebellion triumph as is supposed to happen...or will it be derailed? Will Madrox make it back to his own time? Will Siryn, Monet and the rest of the team have their final showdown with Cortex? Will we actually learn just how it is that Layla Miller knows stuff? Will someone die? The answer to at least some of these questions is: Yes.
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[squeekness]

I just love this book. :p I can't wait to read this issue. Looks great. :D

[Gilpesh]

Alright. That issue was ****ing insane. And it looks like I will be continuing to buy it even though it is changing a few things up.

[squeekness]

I was quite pleased with it even though it lacked enough Shatterstar/Rictor action. :p Just sayin'.

[JustABill]

I don't like Layla's origins, that was my only gripe with the issue.

''OH I CAN'T RESURRECT PEOPLE THEY HAVE NO SOULS" (Lame excuse to give her this continuity/story breaking power and never use it.)

Then the way she came to ''know stuff." was just lame. Otherwise good issue.

[spark627]

I don't like Layla's origins, that was my only gripe with the issue.

''OH I CAN'T RESURRECT PEOPLE THEY HAVE NO SOULS" (Lame excuse to give her this continuity/story breaking power and never use it.)

Then the way she came to ''know stuff." was just lame. Otherwise good issue.


hmm, I actually loved the explanation as to how/why she knows things. I look forward to the next story!

[squeekness]

I didn't mind it either, but it doesn't explain how she can retain every single detail. Most people do forget things over time anyhow. :)

[OutcryX]

what was the explanation? wait...WHY is Layla Miller even relevant?

[Gilpesh]

Oh god. That X guy came out from under his rock to ***** about X-Factor more.

[Colossal Spoons]

Nobody tell him :o

Layla got kinda messed up for me this week too, not diggin her power or her origin.

[Mike555]

First issue of X-Factor for me and i am really consedring not buying the next issue.

[spark627]

First issue of X-Factor for me and i am really consedring not buying the next issue.

Well, this was prob not a good issue to start with. This series is prob the best Marvel has. Start from the beginning, its worth it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, not sure why you tried to hop on at the conclusion of a story arc, especially one that involves time traveling.

[chris moore]

Did all seem a little outta left field for Layla. Plus she appears to be on the double page spread for the next issue - and not her younger self either

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, it should be interesting to see how her older self joins the team

[squeekness]

Nobody tell him :o

Layla got kinda messed up for me this week too, not diggin her power or her origin.Other than being totally implausible, I didn't really mind it all. :p

[Manic]

Oh, I've got to know. Why does she know stuff?

[Specter313]

Oh, I've got to know. Why does she know stuff?

Well, if ya haven't read the issue yet:

When Layla and Jamie time travel back from the future, Jamie ends up in the present in front of the team, but Layla ends up going all the way back to before she met the team, and tells her younger self about everything, but also zaps her with something that downloads all the knowledge she gained into her brain. But because of the sheer amount of info, the normal brain can't take it, so there were some gaps in the knowledge, hence the various things she didn't know about.

[Manic]

So in other words, Layla's knowledge is a paradox?

[OutcryX]

that is plausible. thanks spec...and Spoons...dude..we poseta b boys yo.

[OutcryX]

Oh god. That X guy came out from under his rock to ***** about X-Factor more.

wasnt *****ing about xfactor i was questioning Layla and her relevance period. no rocks. calm yourself

[Gilpesh]

Layla and her relevance period.
No need to talk about that time of the month for her. :o

[Generation Lee]

You know I always liked Lyla knowing stuff but I don't like how she does it. OK I know she was a plot device to undo HOM but seriously with the 2nd comming her power just could have been based in probability. I saw her like Trance from Andromeda who saw all the timelines there could be and tried to make sure that they wouldn't happen lets face it she had a different power in HOM yes u could say that was the pwoer she really truely wanted I don't know but this download just feels wrong.

BTW in the 200 preview Strong Guy's skin is darker!!!!!! A darker skinned character I was shocked since everyon'e going down the MJ road.

[squeekness]

You guys make me laugh, all this joking about skin color. :p

[Havok83]

You know I always liked Lyla knowing stuff but I don't like how she does it. OK I know she was a plot device to undo HOM but seriously with the 2nd comming her power just could have been based in probability. I saw her like Trance from Andromeda who saw all the timelines there could be and tried to make sure that they wouldn't happen lets face it she had a different power in HOM yes u could say that was the pwoer she really truely wanted I don't know but this download just feels wrong.

BTW in the 200 preview Strong Guy's skin is darker!!!!!! A darker skinned character I was shocked since everyon'e going down the MJ road.
He apparently found the missing color that Monet has been lacking

[Colossal Spoons]

that is plausible. thanks spec...and Spoons...dude..we poseta b boys yo.

Yeah, but I couldn't resist :(

[Specter313]

Delving into a lengthy story is a commitment - as well as a bit of a gamble - on behalf of the reader. It takes a good amount of their time, concentration, and patience to follow all the threads and plot points the author has laid out in their narrative.

If the scribe has done their work well, there are huge dividends for the reader - the thrill of a greatly-told tale is hard to top for those who love literature. If, however, the author has failed to connect story points and delivered a lackluster ending...well, the reader has just spent a lot of time (and, occasionally, a decent amount of money) on disappointment. Granted, this disappointment may have more to do with the reader's expectations than the writer's skills, but it's still a tough pill to swallow.

With all that in mind, Marvel Comics' recently released "X-Factor" #50 wraps up several long-standing storylines, and from feedback around the internet, hardly anyone seems disappointed in the resolutions! Writer Peter David took elements that seemed almost random at the beginning of his run and has wrapped them up and delivered it all with a bow to his readers. While the recent issue seemed to provide a ton of answers, there are still questions - which is why we're here at X-POSITION! Expect spoilers a-plenty, and brace yourself for some startling revelations...

Dimitris starts things off for us with a tablespoon of praise, but needs a teaspoon of clarification. Can you help him out?

1) Issue #50 was epic and it really showed how you had things planned from your very first arc of "X-Factor!" Bravo! However, I'm still confused about some of the details surrounding Cortex.

We found out that he got his abilities when he was trapped in a vortex, trying to return to the present. But we also know that Forge sent him to an entirely different future than the one Layla ended up on (the one with Falcone and Ruby and Fitzroy) - so what's the missing link here? Or is Cortex simply due for another, more exposition-y appearance?

He won't be back imminently, but there is definitely more to Cortex's origin that I intend to explore further down the line. What I was trying to convey was that he had found a way to dimension-jump from the timeline he'd gotten stuck in over into the other timeline, but something happened along the way that caused him to wind up the way he did. Presumably Tryp was deeply involved and pulling the strings. But I didn't want to stop the story to have an entire origin-of-Cortex digression, so I figured I'd save it for another time.

2) Also, why was Cortex so eager to wipe out Hecat'e's family tree? From what we saw, she didn't have much of an impact to his or Falcone's plans...

His activities weren't restricted to Hecat'e. Remember, he'd been active for awhile before X-Factor entered the situation. He was simply being systematic: the notion was that he was eliminating all mutants retroactively one by one. It was simply when he got to Hecat'e that he came a cropper because Lenore had the presence of mind to get protection.

Remember that she mentioned that a friend of hers had already died under suspicious circumstances. Well, someone in the future vanished as a result. And it's impossible to know how many future mutants Cortex took out by that method. But because it was so time-consuming a process, Falcone had come up with Operation Clean Sweep so the elimination of mutants wouldn't have to be so piecemeal.

3) Strong Guy's issues with Rictor's bisexuality were major fun! (And, as a gay man, I didn't find them offensive at all.) Are we going to see more of this in the future? I hope Guido doesn't get over it yet, because so far he's been comedy gold!

Oh yes, definitely. I particularly like the notion that Guido considers himself to be very liberal. He would think he wouldn't be bothered by someone's sexual preferences. So he's as annoyed with himself to discover he's uncomfortable with Ric and Star's relationship as Rictor is with him because of his attitudes. It's kind of a learning experience for both of them.

Brian Edwards also wants to learn. Do you have a lesson plan to share, Professor Peter?

I loved "X-Factor" #50. It was a great wrap-up to a very involved and complex storyline. The biggest and most fun surprise was the reveal of how Layla "knows stuff." How much of that was your plan from the start? And if it wasn't, how and when did it come about?

I did the same thing I usually do: had several different scenarios in my head as to the origins of Layla's talents. When this particular storyline developed, I decided this was the way to go. But I always knew about Layla's other talent, as revealed in #50. I even foreshadowed it way back in issue #10, I think it was. Always wondered why no one ever questioned how Layla brought the dead butterfly back to life.

RickyD410 is reevaluating Layla's earlier appearances in light of recent events. He's pulled out his magnifying glass, but he's not quite sure what he's looking at...

1) How does the Layla's reveal at the end relate back to her "House of M" powers/appearance? Or are they completely unrelated?

Although HoM was Layla's first appearance, I've always used that as a jumping off point to do all kinds of other things with her. I honestly haven't made any real attempt to square everything in my own mind because I'm not sure it's possible and I didn't want to hamstring myself. But hey, if you can make it all work seamlessly, I'm all for it.

2) And what was the deal with her appearance in "Messiah CompleX," where Layla sometimes appeared as a mutant, and sometimes as a human?

The nanomites in her head were a futuristic technology that thwarted the detection devices. What nanomites? Funny you should ask...

3) When Layla went back in time (at the end of issue #50), did she appear to herself before or after "House of M"? And what did that device do exactly?

I actually figured it was post-HoM, while she was in the orphanage. That it was, in fact, the catalyst event that prompted her to take off and join X-Factor. She did that because she'd just received the knowledge that she was supposed to do that. That's just my feeling, though. Others may feel it works better if it happened pre-HoM, and if that's what they want to go with, I'm perfectly okay with that since I have no intention of exploring the timing.

As for what the device did, basically it downloaded the equivalent of adult Layla's diary into the young Layla's cerebral cortex using nanomite technology. But, as the adult Layla said, there was only so much that the child's brain could absorb.

4) If Layla did go back in time and stayed there, does this mean that adult Layla has just going about her life - albeit "lurking" in the background - throughout the entire "X-Factor" series? And if she's finally caught up to the present, does this mean she doesn't "know things" anymore?

In retrospect, I wish I'd had artists randomly drawing adult Layla into crowd scenes throughout the entire series, so that readers could go back and make it like "Where's Waldo?" But the truth is that Layla has in fact been up to other stuff in the intervening year or so of Marvel time that the series has been running. And I promise you that we're going to be finding out very soon what that something is.

And yes, she still knows stuff (not "things" - stuff! How many times does she have to say the catchphrase?). Remember, she made a point of saying that she downloaded information covering things that she had learned about what had happened the subsequent eighty years. So basically she's covered through the end of the 21st century.

5) And why is Layla's "mission" to make sure that X-Factor doesn't find out the truth about Decimation? She told that to the Singularity operative waaay back at the beginning. And why is it her job to make sure that "reality stays on track," as she says to Jamie in this issue?

Because she wants to be able to be of continued help to X-Factor. If matters wander too far afield, then the things she knows could become moot and she wouldn't be of use. As for the Decimation, well, there's still stuff about the future that Layla knows that she hasn't tipped her hand to. She had her reasons for wanting to keep X-Factor in the dark, and we may not know all of them yet.

Andre4000 feels like he's in the dark too. Can you enlighten him?

1) According to what we've learned in issue #50, Layla's only mutant power is resurrecting the dead, correct? And if what she's said about Fitzroy being soulless is true, that power doesn't seem very useful...although it does sound pretty darn scary. Will her powers come more into focus soon?

We'll see them in use again. And they can indeed be useful. It's just a matter of picking your shots.

2) With Layla's power, it seems as though she should be involved with "Necrosha." How come "X-Factor" isn't tying into this event?

Timing didn't really work out. We were moving to the #200, we were setting up the crew in their new digs and working on the new status quo; just didn't seem the time to jam in a crossover as well.

3) What can you tell us about the team's move back to New York and/or their "Nation X" issue? Which takes place first?

The relocation to New York is definitely first. In fact, although the team is still splintered in #200, everyone appears in the "Nation X" issue. So in terms of our chronology it actually takes places a few issues down the road. If nothing else, it should ease concerns that the group is going to remain in pieces indefinitely.

Michael Hall asks a couple of questions that I see nearly every week. Maybe it's time for some answers...

1) Is there any chance Longshot will meet up with Dazzler soon? Maybe in "Nation X"?

Ohhhh yes. Yes, they definitely hook up...uhm, run into each other...in "Nation X."

2) Will we be seeing Ruby Summers again? Maybe in an upcoming arc? I'd love to see her meet up with M in the present...

No immediate plans. Honestly, everyone seems to be waiting for her to show up in modern day, and if everyone's expecting it, that's certainly the perfect reason not to do it. Unless of course I come up with a story concept that's just irresistible. But it would have to be really good for me to do it since, right now, my instinct is to leave her where she is.

3) Regarding the "Dark Tower" series, will you be writing stories that fill in the gap between the Marvel Comics stories and Stephen King's first novel "The Gunslinger"?

We are going to continue charting Roland's journey from a young man to being the last of the gunslingers.

We began today talking about plot points that have been planted early in your run. Well, there are still a few left. Dayspring has a theory regarding one of these, and it's fairly solid. Let's see what you think...

I'm calling it right now - Layla Miller is sister to Valeria Richards and the daughter of Doctor Doom. This explains her unusually cordial relationship with Doom in the future, Guido and Jamie's comment that Valeria reminds them of Layla in #200, and the fact that Layla is included in Nick Fury's caterpillar file as a child of a "superhuman." I assume you'll un-convolute Valeria's origins and, in the process, reveal that orphan Layla is Layla von Doom. I'll wait for my no-prize in the mail...

No, Layla isn't Valeria's sister. But her relationship with Doom...that's a different matter.

Dum-dum-dum-doooom.

And on that ominous note, I'm closing out today with a new segment which we began last week. I'm asking our guests a more personal question to give us a peek "behind the X" (so to speak). Therefore, in light of the recent holiday, what is the one type of candy you find impossible to resist? And conversely, what type of candy can you not stand?

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"THE INVISIBLE GIRL HAS VANISHED" X-Factor has relocated back to New York, and their first client is a keeper: Franklin Richards, whose mom has disappeared and who figures that the premiere detective agency in the Marvel Universe has the best chance of finding her. Except Reed Richards doesn't seem especially cooperative in helping them locate his missing wife. What is he hiding, and does it have anything to do with the coming Darkness? Meanwhile, Val Cooper has some bad news for Monet: Her ambassador father has been taken prisoner by terrorists, and she has less than 24 hours to find him before he winds up getting his head cut off on video. New & Reprint/Rated T …$4.99

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[RockSP]

Candy I can't stand? Anything with nuts in it.




:cmad:

*Scratches X-Factor off of pull list*

No one disrespects snickers on my watch!

[Colossal Spoons]

Well that answers the question of whether or not they stay on Asteroid M

[Mike555]

Why are they focusing on siryn's vagena area?

[Colossal Spoons]

Just her buttoning up her jeans

[Gilpesh]

It could have to do with the, I don't know..... whole BABY DISAPPEARING ISSUE that she had and is probably still dealing with.

[chris moore]

Whats with the skin tones? Have we had the colourist for ages, or is there just a really bad habit of mixing about with the ethnicity of characters in X-Factor only? Guido has always been pasty as they come - but here... odd.

[Specter313]

Just her buttoning up her jeans

I didn't catch it before, but does the costume in the last panel look suspiciously like a certain Merc's to anyone else?

[OutcryX]

sure does. theresa was boned by deadpool aka ugliest thing breathin

[Havok83]

who the heck are those kids? I immediately thought Franklin and Valeria when I saw them

[chris moore]

You're right. That is Franklin and Valeria

[squeekness]

sure does. theresa was boned by deadpool aka ugliest thing breathinAlways nice to see Wade git some for real. His options are a bit... limited. :p

[JewishHobbit]

I was excited about this until I saw the $5 price tag, and the mention of Reprint tells me it's not worth it.

I swear... Marvel is just a freaking joke these days.

[Havok83]

You're right. That is Franklin and Valeria
really? what are they doing over here? And why is Franklin the same age as her?

[Colossal Spoons]

I didn't catch it before, but does the costume in the last panel look suspiciously like a certain Merc's to anyone else?

Ha, I wasn't gonna say anything cuz it's prob just a huge coincidence.....or not :ninja:

really? what are they doing over here? And why is Franklin the same age as her?

Franklin's a little older. Valeria has super intelligence now too, it's awesome :o

[OutcryX]

other than super intelligence and a name that sounds like an STD..what are Valeria's powers?

[JewishHobbit]

Isn't Franklin supposed to be 8 or 9 years older than Valeria? I know he had an 8th birthday at the beginning of that "4" comics, and I want to say I've heard something about another one recently, but I could be wrong.

Of course, the idea of him only being 8 after all this time still cracks me up.

[squeekness]

I was excited about this until I saw the $5 price tag, and the mention of Reprint tells me it's not worth it.

I swear... Marvel is just a freaking joke these days.

The reprint part could be the first few panels shown above with the kids, as those appeared in the last X-Factor ish. :up:

[Havok83]

Ha, I wasn't gonna say anything cuz it's prob just a huge coincidence.....or not :ninja:



Franklin's a little older. Valeria has super intelligence now too, it's awesome :o
Franklin should be older. They look like twins in these pics. Also I didnt know that they had active powers. I didnt know she developed any yet and for him, didnt Reed shut them down?

[Colossal Spoons]

Reed shut Franklin's down, Valeria just discovered hers. I'm not sure how/why they're flying though.

[Specter313]

other than super intelligence and a name that sounds like an STD..what are Valeria's powers?

Nothing else yet. All the flying is probably by some kind of invention either Valeria or Reed made.

[Specter313]

I was excited about this until I saw the $5 price tag, and the mention of Reprint tells me it's not worth it.

I swear... Marvel is just a freaking joke these days.

The reprint part could be the first few panels shown above with the kids, as those appeared in the last X-Factor ish. :up:

Actually, the reprint is probably that they're reprinting either maybe the first issue of X-Factor from way back, or maybe another anniversary issue from the original run, to celebrate the renumbering.

[RockSP]

Nothing else yet. All the flying is probably by some kind of invention either Valeria or Reed made.

I think it's the jackets. Something like that was shown during Millar's FF run.

[JewishHobbit]

Actually, the reprint is probably that they're reprinting either maybe the first issue of X-Factor from way back, or maybe another anniversary issue from the original run, to celebrate the renumbering.

Yeah, but you see... I already paid for those issues once. So now in order for me to get the new story, they're making me pay for them again?! I've said it once and I'll say it again, 2 years time and I see myself out of Marvel comics save for maybe a title or two, and being that I'm an 18, almost 19 year long fan and buy the majority of their mainstream titles every month, that's a heck of a drop.

As soon as Dark Reign ends the dropping begins and I have a feeling it's going to downward spiral from there.

[squeekness]

They've been doing that reprint crap for a while now. :( It makes the issue look bigger and all, but the vast majority of the time, the reprint is something I already have or coudl care less about. All the while they charge extra for that issue. With comic prices getting higher and higher I am a lot fussier about what I buy now.

[Specter313]

5) Will M's reaction to Emplate's return be shown in "X-Factor"? As seen in X-Factor's most recent storyline, Monet still hasn't exactly gotten over being "controlled."

They aren't going to be coming in contact this time around, Joshua. Sorry.

6) Will Siryn hear of her father's return in "Necrosha"?

That's really up to Peter David. If he gets a chance to address it in "X-Factor" (if he even wants to do that), he will, I imagine. But knowing his big plans for "X-Factor," I don't think he'll have the room.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23668

[Mike555]

I sure hope siryn learns that her daddy is back.

[squeekness]

Well, is he back or it just an animated corpse? She wouldn't be too happy if her dear ol' da was a monster.

[JewishHobbit]

He's been resurrected with the phalanx t-o virus in him. All resurrections are pretty much bad, but Banshee showed resistance and his own mind... so chances are he'll break the control the t-o virus has over him and will return officially... at least that's what I'm hoping.

Oh, and unlike Blackest Night... he looks normal... not Zombie-like.

[Havok83]

He's been resurrected with the phalanx t-o virus in him. All resurrections are pretty much bad, but Banshee showed resistance and his own mind... so chances are he'll break the control the t-o virus has over him and will return officially... at least that's what I'm hoping.

Oh, and unlike Blackest Night... he looks normal... not Zombie-like.
actually I think they've done a good job at showing that not all of them are bad. Cypher and Risque also showed resistance. These 3 were actually heroes though with the rest of the resurrected being villians, which is why they've been going along with Selene. I thought these characters would come back as zombies but they've been showing free will and humanity. Even the Hellions had some humor and werent all dark and evil. I think this is being done intentionally bc I think alot of characters will stay for the long run when this story is done.

[JewishHobbit]

God I hope so....

LET'S GO! BRING BACK SYNCH!!!!

Legacy is a student book, here's hoping he comes back there :up:

[Mike555]

Yes banshee and cypher forever!

[Havok83]

God I hope so....

LET'S GO! BRING BACK SYNCH!!!!

Legacy is a student book, here's hoping he comes back there :up:
Gen X was asked about in a recent inerview and they said there are no current plans to bring back Synch or Skin :(

[JewishHobbit]

:( You wound me Havok :(

[OutcryX]

actually I think they've done a good job at showing that not all of them are bad. Cypher and Risque also showed resistance. These 3 were actually heroes though with the rest of the resurrected being villians, which is why they've been going along with Selene. I thought these characters would come back as zombies but they've been showing free will and humanity. Even the Hellions had some humor and werent all dark and evil. I think this is being done intentionally bc I think alot of characters will stay for the long run when this story is done.

Risque is back??? hell YES! Jame's(Warpath/Proudstar) one true match!

another thing..though Blink was never shown before she died to be a hero..she heroically sacrificed herself to take out Harvest and save the rest of would-be Gen X....so why is she going along with Selene?

[Havok83]

Risque is back??? hell YES! Jame's(Warpath/Proudstar) one true match!

another thing..though Blink was never shown before she died to be a hero..she heroically sacrificed herself to take out Harvest and save the rest of would-be Gen X....so why is she going along with Selene?
yeah Risque is back and she showed resistance to Selene's control. You'll be glad to know that her scene was with James

I beleive that it was stated somewhere in an interview, that virtually nothing was done with 616 Blink, that she was a blank slate and they could pretty much go anywhere with her. She hasnt been seen since Phalanx Covenant and dont know whats been up with her. I dont think her being allied willingly with Selene is too much of a stretch for that reason.

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #202
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by BING CANSINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Special Variant by TBA
It's all been building toward this: A suicidal assault on Castle Doom in the heart of Latveria as the unlikely trio of Monet, Shatterstar and the Thing go head-to-head with the guy who has his own complete country. Meanwhile, who or what exactly was buried in that lonely grave? And did Madrox arrive in time to make a difference? Plus, Franklin and Valeria Richards are on the run from the most unexpected enemy of all, and the only person who can defend them is...Strong Guy? Part 3 of "The Invisible Woman has Vanished!" Get it before it vanishes off the shelves!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[RockSP]

^^Looks like Monet stole ol' girl from Planetary's costume...

[Mike555]

Ugh please no more doom!

[OutcryX]

looks like Monet found a tanning booth!

oh yeah..i see Darwin on that cover..*sigh* the boy gets NO love.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ugh please no more doom!

You can never have too much Doom

[squeekness]

Shatty needs to grow his hair back. Now. :( He looks funny.

[Havok83]

^^Looks like Monet stole ol' girl from Planetary's costume...
that looks like her X-Corps costume with the top opened up

[RockSP]

that looks like her X-Corps costume with the top opened up

My previous post still applies lol

[Havok83]

My previous post still applies lol
I dont know who that is. You have a pic?

[RockSP]

I dont know who that is. You have a pic?

You never read Planetary?!!:cmad::cmad::hehe:

Actually, I had to look up her name...been a while since I read it. Jakita Wagner:

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Now go grab those Planetary trades.

[OutcryX]

well..which was out first? Planetary or the X-corp storyline in x-men?

[RockSP]

Planetary.

[JewishHobbit]

Planetary was a great read, though it took me a few issues to really get into it.

[Havok83]

Heres the #200 variants

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[OutcryX]

looks like the whole squad is back together again. other than Jamie and Siryn..and Layla..it would be a pretty kick ass squad

[chris moore]

The new artist, and the new uniforms absolutely rock. Hating Guido's visor thingie though

[Havok83]

LOVE that M has some color again

[RockSP]

...and that they remembered Guido is white.

[squeekness]

I like the top one best though strong guy looks just a tad out of proportion.. :p

[chris moore]

Musta just absorbed a lot of kinetic energy ;)

[squeekness]

He looks like he's gonner pop! :p

[Havok83]

Has PAD made Longshot interesting or is he still as lame as ever? I keep hoping someone kills him off and his Ultimate version crossover and takes his place

[OutcryX]

Longshot is cool and interesting because..his name is Longshot, he has three fingers and **** just goes his way. ...I'd like to see some kind of relationship form between him and his son that once was(rumored), Shatterstar. Perhaps a visit to the Mojoverse is in order...as long as they take Pixie with them..and leave her there

[Mike555]

Infact i hope they leave longshot there where he belongs and NOT pixie.

[OutcryX]

pixie is redundant. kill her

[Havok83]

Longshot is cool and interesting because..his name is Longshot, he has three fingers and **** just goes his way. ...I'd like to see some kind of relationship form between him and his son that once was(rumored), Shatterstar. Perhaps a visit to the Mojoverse is in order...as long as they take Pixie with them..and leave her there
Ive always found him lame. I'll agree with you on Pixie though

[Specter313]

Longshot is cool and interesting because..his name is Longshot, he has three fingers and **** just goes his way. ...I'd like to see some kind of relationship form between him and his son that once was(rumored), Shatterstar. Perhaps a visit to the Mojoverse is in order...as long as they take Pixie with them..and leave her there

They put a big hint in one of the last issues of X-Factor that they are related, so I'm sure PAD has plans to address it somewhere down the line. I think he's really got some good plans for Longshot since he's made his powers interesting again. I can't remember the exact wording for it right now though.

[squeekness]

Tactile telepathy/psychic perhaps? He sees things when he touches objects.

[Havok83]

does he actually have a personality now?

[JewishHobbit]

I think he's the most uninteresting character of the bunch, but now that someone's reminded me that he and Shatterstar are both on the team I'm suddenly a lot more interested.

[chris moore]

The thing thats bugged me about Longshot of late is simply that he has regained his memories of his life (maybe with some gaps - hasnt been clarified), yet seems to constantly act like its his first time anywhere or doing anything (we ignore the fact that he and Dazzler have yet to even chat since his return from the Excalibur/Exiles crossover).
Make him a bit more like the X-Men vet he should be, and he could be interesting again.

Oh, and the sleeve slots for his blades (pretending for a moment that a man who is all about luck absolutely needs his guaranteed to hit weapon to be knives) are genius compared to that damn bandolier thing he had across his chest for the last 20years!

[Specter313]

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NATION X: X-FACTOR #1


Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by CHRISTIAN MACNEVEN
Utopia. The sanctuary for mutants to escape a world that wants them extinct. So is it the ideal home for X-Factor? That's what Cyclops believes when he invites the world's only mutant detective agency to relocate to their floating island retreat and take up residence there. But will Madrox and his team believe that it's the best place for them? What old faces will pop up, and what old acquaintances will be renewed? And will there even be a Utopia left when the mysterious Crone shows up and threatens to bring the entire place crashing down into the Pacific?
40 PGS./One-Shot/Rated T+ ...$3.99

[Manic]

I don't know who this colorist is, but bless them for making Monet darker. I don't know how I feel about Darwin being dark, though. Sure he's Blaxican, but he's pretty much supposed to be albino.

Oh, and thumbs up :up: for Butterfly still wearing those striped leggings despite being an adult now.

[Charlie No-One]

Of course they need to hetero up the Shatterstar/Rictor relationship :whatever:

[ChaoticPsylocke]

boom boom? what the heck? that girl looks a hot mess!

and in the one panel her dress thing doesnt even cover her hips.

[squeekness]

Of course they need to hetero up the Shatterstar/Rictor relationship :whatever:Maybe Shatty just kisses everyone that way when he hasn't seen them in a long time. :(

[RockSP]

Of course they need to hetero up the Shatterstar/Rictor relationship :whatever:

Well Rictor is obviously bi-sexual. I guess Shatterstar is too. Did he and Boom Boom have a relationship previously?

[JewishHobbit]

No. And I don't really see the complaint here. Rictor has always been a heterosexual male until hinted at late in the X-Force series. And in this X-Factor series he's obviously bi-sexual. I imagine Shatterstar could be the same, as there's a little precidence to it in the original X-Force series. To have a complete absense of hetero would be to ignore a portion of their characters (I'd say Rictor moreso than Shatterstar, but nonetheless).

To demand complete homosexuality (for lack of better phrases) would be asking for more than the characters are.

[bryanss3]

Also bisexuality is something very unexplored in all forms of entertainments.

[Generation Lee]

Forgive my ignorance here as I never read the characters during the 90's but isn't Shatterstar not sure how to "act human" in terms of emotions etc, could PAD being joking that he's learned this from TV that you kiss everyone you see and because he learned it from TV its a full on snog?

PAD has stated Rictor is bi and I agree with the above post but I just think the Shatterstar kissing women the way he does is a joke. I have a feeling its PAD messing about. So I'm unsure if Star is bi.

[Manic]

I think Shatterstar, being a wacky artificial life form instead of a real human, started off without any sexual preference and had to develop one with time. It looks like after Rictor taught him how to love (*porn music riff*), he further developed his sexuality to include women as well as men. I'm guessing, of course.

[Havok83]

Shatterstar was originally asexual. He didnt necesarily love men or women....it was all foreign to him.

[squeekness]

Well, he's been out in the world a while since then. :p He'z a playah now.

[RockSP]

I don't know how I feel about Darwin being dark, though. Sure he's Blaxican, but he's pretty much supposed to be albino.


Well he was more grey-ish when he first showed up. Then they went the albino route for whatever reason.

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #200


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Bing Cansino
COVER BY Esad RIbic
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $4.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, December 16th, 2009

"THE INVISIBLE GIRL HAS VANISHED" X-Factor has relocated back to New York, and their first client is a keeper: Franklin Richards, whose mom has disappeared and who figures that the premiere detective agency in the Marvel Universe has the best chance of finding her. Except Reed Richards doesn't seem especially cooperative in helping them locate his missing wife. What is he hiding, and does it have anything to do with the coming Darkness? Meanwhile, Val Cooper has some bad news for Monet: Her ambassador father has been taken prisoner by terrorists, and she has less than 24 hours to find him before he winds up getting his head cut off on video.

[JewishHobbit]

The price tag and the screwy ages of Franklin and Valeria are really turning me off on this.

[squeekness]

I dunno, the book has been consistantly good for me so far. :) Better than boring ole Uncanny any day. :p

[Havok83]

I dunno, the book has been consistantly good for me so far. :) Better than boring ole Uncanny any day. :p
I think most books are better than UXM

[Mad Ones]

I just started reading this. I read The Longest Night TPB last night, and really liked it. The roster now is... crazy and interesting. I'll pick up #200, because it seems like a good starting point, and I'll fill myself in eventually.

[TwilightPro101]

Extremely looking forward to the new direction, that PAD has in mind for the Factor team.

[bryanss3]

Is it just me or did PAD just realize F4 are usually segregated from the rest of the Marvel U in their own book? I think he wants to write them if writes any other Marvel books.

The price tag and the screwy ages of Franklin and Valeria are really turning me off on this.
Yeah cause PAD screwed up their ages not Marvel

[JewishHobbit]

I don't read FF either, but last I checked you could at least tell Franklin was older. And Franklin's inability to age is part of what turns me off of the FF book.

[bryanss3]

welcome to comics

[Manic]

Ironically, Franklin's birthday is coming up in the next issue of FF. God only knows how old he's turning (again), because it hasn't been said outright.

[TwilightPro101]

Ouch on the price hike for the 200th issue. Makes me glad that I stick to trades.

[squeekness]

I didn't even notice the price difference, I just ordered it blind. Makes me wonder now if it's going to have boring ole reprint crap in it too. :(

[Manic]

I hope it's at least double-sized.

[bryanss3]

My guess is it's gonna be a 40 page story and a reprint

[Darthphere]

Yeah, there's a reprint.

[SouLeSS]

Wait, Darwin is black now?

Last I saw him he was all albino and goofy looking

[OutcryX]

Darwin's ethnicity is African American and Mexican American...however he was Albino..i think, in Deadly Genesis he was more a grayish color and i thought that was due to his mutation

[Manic]

Hmm. I want to make a Monet joke, but I feel like I've beaten that dead horse to a pulp...



Okay, I got one.


Darwin comes from the Shilo Norman School For Frequently Shifting Skin Colors.