Official X-FACTOR Discussion Thread

[OutcryX]

heh...was thinking he picked up the color that Sammy Sosa lost

[Manic]

I question if that's really Sammy Sosa. I think he might be an imperfect clone.

[bryanss3]

I really didn't like this issue. Again we have 3 story plots running at the same time and intertwining a bit, yeah that's cool to do when the stories are interesting, these stories aren't pulling me in. There's a backup story after the main story about Siryn at saying goodbye to Banshee, and for anyone wondering what the reprint is it's Madrox #1. I thought the art was good over all. It's not a great issue #200 it doesn't really invite new readers in, but it brings X-Factor back into the MU too bad he writes the FF like poop.

[squeekness]

I liked it all well enough. I was happy for the first time ever to see reprint material that I didn't already have. Now I want to pick up that Madrox mini, the number one was wonderful. :)

[Mad Ones]

I liked the issue too, particularly the Gladiator references, and the baseball banter. The Siryn story was emotional and nice, and I never read the Madrox mini series, so I was happy they included it. I thought it was worth my money.

[bryanss3]

I'm getting sick of the little bits of banter between every single character for every single thing that happens, it's not subtle its in your face and near Bendis like proportions of useless dialog. Hopefully the next issue will be better but yeah the Siryn story was great. But I didn't like her parts in the main story, her DP scene seemed pretty random and then to not actually have him seen on panel I bet he shows up on the cover in a few issues for a sales boost. Though I don't really like this issue I'll say it's still in the top 10 of the 30+ comics I picked up today. Maybe I was just expecting more from this. It's by no means bad just not good to me like it usually is.

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #203
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Deep into unknown jungles go Monet and Guido, a.k.a. Strong Guy, a two-person rescue team in a desperate gambit to free Monet's father from the hands of terrorists. And what exactly do the terrorists want? They want Monet, as it turns out. And you'll never guess who's behind it all.
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[ChaoticPsylocke]

awesome. and Monet is really dark now!

[Havok83]

awesome. and Monet is really dark now!
Yep and she got a great new costume to go along with it. Not sure I like the gloves though

[Lil Kis]

I have a question about issue 8 way back in the beginning of the issue. Well in that issue Siryn uses her voice powers to manipulate Spider Man to finding out about M-day but in issue 1 or 2 they say that Siryn can't use that power on mutants only humans....so how did this happen and why?

I rereading all my issue of X-factor before I read issue 200.

Also why did they chnage issue 51 to 200? What and why was the reason for that? Thanks in advance

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm kinda sad that Shatterstar had to rescue Guido from Ben last issue. Taking punches and barbells to the face is what Guido does best.

[Havok83]

I have a question about issue 8 way back in the beginning of the issue. Well in that issue Siryn uses her voice powers to manipulate Spider Man to finding out about M-day but in issue 1 or 2 they say that Siryn can't use that power on mutants only humans....so how did this happen and why?

I rereading all my issue of X-factor before I read issue 200.

Also why did they chnage issue 51 to 200? What and why was the reason for that? Thanks in advance
Spiderman's not a mutant

As for the number change...sales. Sales tend to go up with Anniversary issues and 200 is a milestone. When Marvel reboots its titles to #1, it tends to start back at the original numbering for anniversay issues for most titles.

[Manic]

Upping issue numbers into the hundreds is the new #1 reboot. Thor's current series restarted its numbering at #1, then jumped to #600 after the first dozen issues. Incredible Hulk? Suddenly brought back at #600. I've heard a rumor that over at DC, Wonder Woman's title is about to do something similar.

Frankly, I'm waiting for one of the Avengers titles to do it. Or a comic simply titled The Avengers will get relaunched at something-hundred.

[bryanss3]

Upping issue numbers into the hundreds is the new #1 reboot. Thor's current series restarted its numbering at #1, then jumped to #600 after the first dozen issues. Incredible Hulk? Suddenly brought back at #600. I've heard a rumor that over at DC, Wonder Woman's title is about to do something similar.

Frankly, I'm waiting for one of the Avengers titles to do it. Or a comic simply titled The Avengers will get relaunched at something-hundred.
They'll probably launch Avengers and then some how use New/Mighty's numbers to get it to whatever hundred they want it to be in time for the Avengers movie. as for Wonder Woman in the DC nation thing in the back of DC books, they put the question out saying "when Wonder Woman gets to issue #45 it'll be the 600th issue do you want us to go to the original numbering?"600+ postcards later it's happening. here's the Newsarama article about the WW renumbering (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091208-Wonder-Woman-600.html)

[Lil Kis]

why is Rictor bi-sexual!? He doesn't act like a gay person at all! He acts like a masculine guy and there is no hints to him being gay. Same for Shatterstar too. David shoulda gave us hints throughout the series before the big reveal.

[Manic]

why is Rictor bi-sexual!? He doesn't act like a gay person at all! He acts like a masculine guy and there is no hints to him being gay. Same for Shatterstar too. David shoulda gave us hints throughout the series before the big reveal.
Have... have you ever met a gay or bisexual person before? They aren't really preprogrammed to act a certain way. There are a lot of gay dudes out there who act masculine.

As for hints, Rictor did mention some guy-on-guy action in a past issue.

[RockSP]

As for hints, Rictor did mention some guy-on-guy action in a past issue.

In a past issue of this series?

[Manic]

In a past issue of this series?
Yep. It was right after Jamie slept with both Monet and Terry. He met Ric at a bar/restaurant, and the two talked about who's better in bed. Jamie brought up that Ric was spending an awful lot of time with Quicksilver at the time, and Rictor joked "It's not like I'm sleeping with him." Ric said that wasn't true when Jamie overreacted to the joke, but then added something about how the guy-guy thing has happened, though.

[RockSP]

Oh yeah.

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NATION X: X-FACTOR #1


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro
COVER BY Christian Macneven
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $3.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, January 6th, 2010

Utopia. The sanctuary for mutants to escape a world that wants them extinct. So is it the ideal home for X-Factor? That's what Cyclops believes when he invites the world's only mutant detective agency to relocate to their floating island retreat and take up residence there. But will Madrox and his team believe that it's the best place for them? What old faces will pop up, and what old acquaintances will be renewed? And will there even be a Utopia left when the mysterious Crone shows up and threatens to bring the entire place crashing down into the Pacific?

[ChaoticPsylocke]

yay im excited to see how everyone reacts to xfactor

[Colossal Spoons]

Jamie's gonna decline most likely. X-Factor's too cool for Utopia :whatever:

[squeekness]

LOL, on Logan losing his money. :p

[Mad Ones]

I don't blame Jamie for not going to Scott Summer's nation of sitting ducks. I like X-factor much better with loose connections to the X-men, and I don't think that's going to change.

[RockSP]

Of course they won't stay on Utopia. Kinda hard to be a detective agency that way...

[squeekness]

It's a one shot, of course they aren't staying. :p

[chris moore]

Nothin' stopping them getting called in to investigate whenever something comes up. Especially seeing as a lot of the mutants on Utopia are likely to distrust the "ruling body" as being able to look at any of their own as guilty of anything that goes wrong.

[Psykoelf]

When did Layla (adult) turn up again post return from the future? Artist blooper or have I totally missed something?

[Specter313]

When did Layla (adult) turn up again post return from the future? Artist blooper or have I totally missed something?

At the very end of issue #200.

[The Englishman]

I love X-Factors current costume designs....:woot:

[Psykoelf]

At the very end of issue #200.

Really? I read it, but don't recall that, not that I'm doubting you. Where was I?

[Specter313]

Really? I read it, but don't recall that, not that I'm doubting you. Where was I?

Layla showed up in Longshot's vision when he used his powers try and find out what happened to Sue Storm. She was able to see him, which shouldn't be able to happen since he sees what happens in the past, and said she knows stuff, I believe.

[Manic]

That's kinda inconsistent, isn't it? At the end of #50, Adult Layla injects Kid Layla with all of her memories, meaning all of the stuff Layla knew from issues #1-50 were the result of a big ol' time paradox. Layla only knows stuff because a future version of her implanted knowledge of stuff she learned when a future version of herself implanted her with knowledge of stuff. Paradox.

So why does she still know stuff that's unrelated to that? Like the fact that Longshot was going to psychometrically see her? And for that matter, why did Layla know stuff completely unrelated to her? Like during the Layla Miller one-shot issue, she knew what Jamie was doing in the past, and even repeated the "one of us, one of us" chant that Jamie imagined in his head a few issues earlier.

I'm beginning to think Layla will continue to know stuff for no apparent reason, and that PAD only came up with that inconsistent future/past exchange of knowledge as an excuse for editors to let him bring the character back to the present. Because I specifically remember an interview where PAD said he had to fully explain his upcoming storyline to the editors after they read the script to #40 where Adult Layla first showed up in the present day, or he wouldn't be able to go through with it.

[Specter313]

Actually, I remember Layla explaining it to her younger self when she was going to implant the knowledge in her. She used her time in the future gathering all the knowledge for the next 80 or so years leading up the the point when she pulled Jamie into the future and put it all into that device to inject into her younger self, that way she'll know things that won't happen to just her. But, like she also said, due to the sheer volume of knowledge and her brain still being so young, she won't remember it all and will have gaps.

[Manic]

Actually, I remember Layla explaining it to her younger self when she was going to implant the knowledge in her. She used her time in the future gathering all the knowledge for the next 80 or so years leading up the the point when she pulled Jamie into the future and put it all into that device to inject into her younger self, that way she'll know things that won't happen to just her. But, like she also said, due to the sheer volume of knowledge and her brain still being so young, she won't remember it all and will have gaps.
Right, but Layla knew stuff that she had no business knowing. Like, how did she know Jamie was imagining her saying "one of us, one of us" while they were 70-something years away from one another? How does her knowledge of events allow her to time her actions so well? I could go back to relive yesterday, but there's no way I'd be able to perfectly time my actions to do things a certain way. Why was it so important for Huber to create an android (or whatever that little French girl was) with randomized actions to fool Layla's ability to predict the future?

I've got a doozy for you:
1. When Layla first met Quicksilver, she "knew" coaxing a gang into attacking him would cause Quicksilver to get killed. However, Quicksilver evaded death and instead used his wacky terrigen powers to give those thugs their powers back temporarily. Layla said (not to anybody but herself) that somehow Quicksilver being closely related to Wanda might've given him enough of a chaos factor to make him unpredictable. That's not a gap in knowledge. That's "stuff" she knows turning out differently.
2. Later on, Quicksilver would kidnap Layla. Layla managed to escape, and she used her ability to "know stuff" to trick Quicksilver into accidentally knocking himself out on a merry-go-round.

Now I ask you: If Layla's knowledge works on the principle that she's just remembering stuff her future self went through, wouldn't she have known that her actions wouldn't have killed Quicksilver because she knew she'd be escaping his clutches much later?

Early on, it was heavily implied that Layla's knowledge of "stuff" was somehow given to her at convenient times. She'd sometimes talk to herself as if she couldn't believe something she'd just found out. She told people she couldn't tell them how she knew stuff, or she'd be struck down. If one of her predictions went wrong, she'd somehow develop an all new prediction to account for new variables. She straight-up told Rictor once that her ability to see the future works like the butterfly effect (hence her rarely used codename, Butterfly), and that she sees events and how to change them.

But now suddenly it's "oh, I'm running off of memories from my future self." That makes no sense. If you look at everything together, it looks like PAD changed the origin of how Layla knows stuff.

[bryanss3]

To be fair if she replied when asked "how do you know all this stuff?" with "Well me from the future injected all these memories into me" it would have killed all the future story telling. Plus her Name is Layla Miller not Honest Abe. She was most likely lying. But that's enough defense on that subject from me cause I really didn't like the outcome of issue #50. I'd really like this book to be in a different place than it is right now. Future covers/solicits are intriguing, but I'm really not in to the current story(#200) the plot with Monet seems really forced, PAD forcing F4 into this book it started with Doom in the future now in the current story and Doom is on another cover so he'll be back and it'll probably tie into the previous story, but on the upside The art is better.

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X-FACTOR #201

Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by BING CANSINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Something is rotten in the state of Latveria. How does it relate to the disappearance of the Invisible Woman? How does it involve Layla Miller, and is she now an ally of Doctor Doom, with all of her precious knowledge at his disposal? Will Madrox learn exactly who is buried beneath that mysterious grave? And will you buy the issue in order to find out? We dunno; what're we, psychic?
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

[Manic]

I want to see M and Guy become wise-crackin' buddies with this. Well, not buddies (this is M we're talking about). I just wouldn't mind a friendship that consisted of mutual barb trading.

[OutcryX]

including the boring ass fantastic four and their adversaries only makes this book even less appealing. awesome cast (aside from siryn)..overrated writer

[Manic]

You... you don't like the Fantastic Four?

[Colossal Spoons]

Outcry, I seriously recommend the last 2 issues since Hickman started writing the book. Unless you just find the characters boring, in that case I can't help ya lol

[OutcryX]

i do find the characters boring. lol. i can enjoy 3/4ths of them..but reed richards is just creepy to me

[Manic]

Between Hickman trying to get Reed past his overall dickishness, Franklin getting his powers back, Val becoming a 2 year old super-genius, and Eaglesham's artwork, I'd say Fantastic Four has been doing pretty well these past few months. I just wish Johnny, Ben, and Sue would get a fraction of the spotlight time Reed gets without them just being used to say something stupid, say something folksy before a fight, and nag (respectively).

[chamber-music]

Franklin and Val have been good lately. FF kind of reminds me of that 90s Lost In Space movie at the moment.

I want to see Husk, Monet and Jubilee reunion

[JustABill]

Jubilee won't even come close to Utopia for some reason. She got a verbal asian on asian lashing from Surge and left a letter for Wolverine with a guy on a dock.

And Husk's busy playing second fiddle to Rogue like everyone else in Legacy. A Generation X reunion period (what's left of them anyways) would be nice though.

[Colossal Spoons]

Jubes can go kick rocks :o

[chamber-music]

Jubilee won't even come close to Utopia for some reason. She got a verbal asian on asian lashing from Surge and left a letter for Wolverine with a guy on a dock.

And Husk's busy playing second fiddle to Rogue like everyone else in Legacy. A Generation X reunion period (what's left of them anyways) would be nice though.

The current X-kids 'my friends are dead' angst is getting old fast. I'm tired of them mouthing off the older X-Men. Alot of those kids can't die quick enough for me.

[Havok83]

The current X-kids 'my friends are dead' angst is getting old fast. I'm tired of them mouthing off the older X-Men. Alot of those kids can't die quick enough for me.
same here. I have that the X-brats have so little respect for the senior members. Im more pissed how quickly they got elevated to full X-man status when it took most of the New Mutants over 20 years and Gen X for the most part got pushed aside

[Manic]

The New/Young kids only got pushed up to full X-Men status so quickly because their book got cancelled. If Young X-Men was still going, the only teens we'd be seeing in the core X-books would be Armor and Pixie in their "new Kitty" roles. And of course the cannon fodder kids Rogue is watching over in The Rogue Show Starring Rogue.

[Havok83]

The New/Young kids only got pushed up to full X-Men status so quickly because their book got cancelled. If Young X-Men was still going, the only teens we'd be seeing in the core X-books would be Armor and Pixie in their "new Kitty" roles. And of course the cannon fodder kids Rogue is watching over in The Rogue Show Starring Rogue.
Young X-men were considered X-men though. It debuted right after Messiah Complex and Cyclops said that none of them were students anymore and were full fledge X-men. Young X-men was just that; a group of young Xmen with a title. We saw them in the minis like Secret Invasion and one shots fighting alongside the rest of the big guns before the book cancellation

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #205
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Heroic Age Variant by TBA
A SECOND COMING TIE-IN!
The mutant hunter Bastion has sent the Mutant Response Division and the newly resurrected Bolivar Trask after X-Factor with one mission: Kill them all. And it seems thus far that all is going according to plan. Meanwhile in the jungles of South America, Strong Guy has to form an extremely unlikely alliance if he wants to save Monet from the MRD.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[Manic]

Yay, De Landro!

[OutcryX]

I do enjoy me some Bastion...now bring on Maggot and Reyes and Marrow!! lead by Iceman

[Jake Cassidy]

and Sabra :yay:

[OutcryX]

ahh yes..how could i EVER forget Sabra..she was AWESOME!

[Generation Lee]

Oh the Children of the Vault are in South America I'd so love PAD to write them since Carey has lost his mojo. I loved the arc wigth them and Carey writing a team book anyway nice to know X-Factor can at least tie in to the event because they are connected to hope and let's face it whatever happens affects all mutants even Molly fro Runaways.

[Havok83]

^^^ Where are youn getting the Children of the Vault from?

[OutcryX]

has it ever been said exactly what the Children of the Vault are?

[Specter313]

^^^ Where are youn getting the Children of the Vault from?

The solicit says Strong Guy tries to make an alliance with someone in South America. The Children are in South America last we saw the, namely Ecuador. So....

has it ever been said exactly what the Children of the Vault are?

They're neither human nor mutant. They came from an experiment where they were in a ship where they were locked in and time was able to be accelerated, so through thousands of years of genetic drift and experiments, they were the results.

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X-FACTOR #202


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Bing Cansino
COVER BY David Yardin
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, February 24th, 2010

It's all been building toward this: A suicidal assault on Castle Doom in the heart of Latveria as the unlikely trio of Monet, Shatterstar and the Thing go head-to-head with the guy who has his own complete country. Meanwhile, who or what exactly was buried in that lonely grave? And did Madrox arrive in time to make a difference? Plus, Franklin and Valeria Richards are on the run from the most unexpected enemy of all, and the only person who can defend them is...Strong Guy? Part 3 of "The Invisible Woman has Vanished!" Get it before it vanishes off the shelves!

[Colossal Spoons]

This arc was all kinds of boring and confusing.

[Specter313]

The Marvel Universe is designed to be reflective of the real world, partly to make current storylines seem more relevant to the way we live, and partly because having President Obama giving orders to the spandex set is an amazing way to grab headlines. Whatever the exact reasoning, over the years it’s led Marvel to run with storylines and characters off the beaten path of expected super heroics, laying the groundwork for what are arguably some of the more forward-thinking representations in mainstream entertainment today.

Though in the case of Peter David's work on Marvel's "X-Factor," working minority issues into the plot as part and parcel of the series' ongoing character arcs ended up making waves in an unexpected manner. As many who follow the comics blogosphere know, Shatterstar and Rictor – two mutant characters hinted at having a “special bond” for almost twenty years – finally put all rumors to rest in the first on-panel kiss between two major male superhero characters in last fall’s issue #45.

"Honestly," explained "X-Factor" editor Jody Leheup, "we knew this was going to be a cool moment for the fans, but it hadn’t really occurred to us that it would be so important to gay (and heterosexual) comics fans as a whole. But we are all extremely pleased to see that it means so much to so many. That said, we didn’t want to market around the kiss or play it up too much, because we all really want things like this to be seen as normal."

"There was absolutely no trouble getting it approved at all," noted David. "The approvals process consisted of: I wrote it and a few months later it saw print. This may sound naive, but to me it just wasn't that big a deal. Or at least I didn't know it was going to be as big a deal as it became. As for fan opinion, it was certainly the storyline that I got the most requests for. I had certainly been aware of the subtext present, but it really could have gone in either direction. But it seemed to me that the time was right, and so decided to embark on it."

Perhaps adding more relevance to the kiss is that fact that Rictor and Shatterstar are not what you would consider token queer characters. Shatterstar comes from a dimension where power is measured in ratings, and spineless executives manufacture genetically perfected performers that tantalize their show's viewers with their charm, grace, and physical perfections. Shatterstar comes from the warrior end of the warehouse line, being primarily a fighter, but always a performer.

Rictor is a Mexican born into the worst situation in society – being a mutant who could make the earth move – with a history spanning two major-selling titles. A long stint in limbo led to being a member of the noir-styled mix of detective and super-hero pulps which is the current version of "X-Factor." Suffering from bouts of depression due to the loss of his special gifts, Rictor has been the voice of sarcasm and reality checks for the past 50 issues, and the one question fans having been asking since his return was "When would Shatterstar come to visit?"

"Peter mentioned that he wanted to bring Shatterstar back, and we thought it was a really fun idea," Leheup recalled. "Rictor and Shatterstar aren’t household names, so to speak, and the fact that they aren’t as visible on the radar enabled Peter to have more freedom to interpret them. The kiss, in this instance, wasn’t really something that we needed to run up the flag pole."

"Am I the first writer to explicitly state it? Yes. But various writers have been laying trackwork for this development for going on 20 years," David said. "There's been so much speculation about subtext between the two of them that there are entire websites dedicated to 'Ricstar,' as he and Shatterstar are called (which, as combo names go, is unquestionably superior to Ricshat). And with Rictor in the series, I thought it would be interesting to bring back Shatterstar in this more modern day and age when one didn't have to hide such relationships behind nudge-nudge, wink-wink, don't ask, don't tell policies. Initially, I was only bringing Shatterstar back for the duration of the storyline, but response has been so positive that I decided to keep him around."

Since neither Shatterstar or Rictor were originally envisioned as gay by their creators, many fans wonder how long it will be before the characters revert to earlier representations or different spins are added to the current set-up.

"I think it's far too premature to speculate what Rictor would do should he and Shatterstar break up," said David. "I mean, we only just definitively got them together. I think the more interesting dynamic will stem from the fact that Shatterstar, who spent most of his life having no interest in or concept of sexuality, is now the equivalent of a kid in a candy store. Here's Rictor, fully prepared to commit seriously to this relationship, and there's Shatterstar, who wants to explore all manner of possibilities and wants Rictor to be his companion and guide in that regard because he loves him and trusts him. To some degree, I'm keying his personality off Captain Jack Harkness from 'Torchwood': swashbuckling, enthusiastic and sexually curious about anything with a pulse." And those traits are something shown in how everyone seems slightly drawn to the warrior-performer who greets old friends with passionate kisses aplenty.

It had been earlier suggested that Rictor was primarily bi-sexual, explaining many years of romances with women alongside his on-going friendship with Shatterstar. With this idea now canon, David sees Rictor settling down. "He had his involvements with females, sure, just as women who eventually decided they were lesbians had involvements with men that they ultimately considered unfulfilling." David points out, "at this point, at least the way I'm writing him, he's fully committed to the gay lifestyle. He's become honest about it both with others and himself."

And David doesn’t take the "yay-gay" angle, where everyone is instantly comfortable and unquestioning of the character’s new relationship. Fellow cast member Guido, also known as Strong Guy, surprised many with a very visible discomfort to the idea, especially for a character whose long X-history includes being the bodyguard for a galaxy spanning rock diva.

"My feeling is that, as far as Guido is concerned, he grew up in one of those tough neighborhoods where no one was gay,” the writer explained. "Which is to say that guys didn't cop to being gay because they'd get the crap kicked out of them. And sure, Guido is a liberal guy who's open minded, or at least likes to feel that he is. His attitude is that whatever some dudes do in the privacy of their bedroom is their own business. But now here's someone who he thought he knew, and it turns out he didn't know him as well as he thought, and now he's got a mental image of Shatterstar and Rictor going at it, and the whole thing just leaves him feeling kind of squeed about it. He doesn't hate them for it, but it's outside of his comfort level, and he's even frustrated by that because he didn't know it was a problem for him. So he feels guilty about feeling the way that he does, but he can't help how he feels. Consequently, he's dealing with it in a way that comes naturally for him: Making jokes about it."

In the end, the biggest detractor to the relationship has been Shatterstar’s creator Rob Liefeld (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/07/liefeld-cant-wait-to-someday-undo-shatterstar-development), who posted several deterring remarks about the shift in a character he feels was always too involved with swordplay to worry about his sword-play.

"I was saddened by it, really, because I thought it brought out all the worst possible sentiments," said David. "First there were the Liefeld fans who believed that I 'made' Shatterstar gay because I was trying to somehow hurt Rob, which just goes to show you how people view someone being gay; that it's some sort of insult. I'll bet you if I'd killed him off, people wouldn't have seen some sort of personal enmity behind the move. But follow-up on subtext created by other writers for nineteen years and, hoo boy.

"If I'd brought Shatterstar back and had him get involved with Monet [a girl], my suspicion is that he'd have had nothing to say about it. There wouldn't have been any of this 'But he's not supposed to be interested in sex' stuff. I think it's foolish to expect a character to remain frozen in creative amber for decades. What makes a character last is his ability to change with the times. That said, I have to add that, just as a rule of thumb, if you're going to contend that your character isn't gay, don't compare him to ancient Greek warriors (as Rob did), because anyone who has the slightest awareness of history is going to start laughing uncontrollably. We've seen good characters turned bad, evil characters turned good, characters killed off, change gender, etc. But the line is to be drawn [and] the squawking starts when one of them kisses another of the same gender? I don't buy it."

Rictor and Shatterstar’s relationship continues to evolve within the newly renumbered "X-Factor," with issue #202 hitting comic shops on February 24. "My attitude is, regardless of your sexual orientation, you should read ['X-Factor'] simply because it's a great comic with an exciting tale and compelling characters," concluded David. "I'm not out to cater to lovers of gay relationships per se anymore than I'm out to cater to lovers of straight relationships. I just want lovers of good stories, and let the rest be sorted out for itself."

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X-FACTOR #203


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro
COLORS BY Jeremy Cox
LETTERS BY Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, March 24th, 2010

Deep into unknown jungles go Monet and Guido, a.k.a. Strong Guy, a two-person rescue team in a desperate gambit to free Monet's father from the hands of terrorists. And what exactly do the terrorists want? They want Monet, as it turns out. And you'll never guess who's behind it all.

[Havok83]

A Monet centric issue and actually remembers her past as Penance? Wow, may have to pick up Xfactor this month

[squeekness]

It's always a good decision to pick up this book. :D

[JustABill]

He's an X-Force fan, he knows no better. :o

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X-FACTOR #206
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
A SECOND COMING TIE-IN! Part 3 of 3
At last! All the members of X-Factor are reunited in this climactic, slam-bang X-plosion of a conclusion as Trask decides to take matters into his own hands and personally direct the forces of the Mutant Response Division into a full blown war against everyone's favorite mutant detective team!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[Colossal Spoons]

Here's hoping that saw catches Siryn :up: :o

[OutcryX]

i agree. run slow Siryn!

[Havok83]

Anyone notice that with Longshots legs opened wide, that saw is aimed and about to cut off his "man parts"? For his sake, I hope he's as lucky as he thinks he is

[OutcryX]

thats probably precisely why he is doing that non gay, very masculine cartwheel.....to prove how his power works!

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X-FACTOR #204

Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
IRON MAN BY DESIGN VARIANT by TBA
A SECOND COMING - REVELATIONS TIE-IN!
You're Bolivar Trask, the reanimated leader of the Mutant Response Division. Your mission: Kill every member of X-Factor. How to accomplish that without collateral damage? Easy: hire the team for what seems to be a routine case that will send them into a certain death trap. Problem solved.
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X-FACTOR #204


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro
COLORS BY Jeremy Cox
LETTERS BY Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Nathan Fairbairn
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, April 21st, 2010

A SECOND COMING - REVELATIONS TIE-IN! You're Bolivar Trask, the reanimated leader of the Mutant Response Division. Your mission: Kill every member of X-Factor. How to accomplish that without collateral damage? Easy: hire the team for what seems to be a routine case that will send them into a certain death trap. Problem solved.

[Havok83]

okay so what does this have to do with Second Coming?

[Specter313]

okay so what does this have to do with Second Coming?

Bastion sent one of his cronies, Hodge I think, to keep them busy so they won't interfere.

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X-FACTOR #207
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by SEBASTIAN FIUMARA
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Remember when we warned you about the shocking twist involving Madrox's baby? Remember when the return of Shatterstar wound up making every comics-related website? Well, that was just a warm-up for the shocking end of this issue. X-Factor gets a new client, a tall green-garbed woman with a deadly secret, but that's just a set-up for the jaw-dropping final page that's going to reignite the Internet and have fandom going, "Did you BELIEVE what happened at the end of X-Factor #207?!"
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[OutcryX]

so is Peter David just going to be going for shock endings and unseen twists now to keep interest?

[Generation Lee]

Ah don't say that remeber he had to acknoweldge Nation X and Second Comming so his plan gets deverted slightly hell I'm still waiting on them to be to go to Detective Agency of the MU lol.

We have to know what happened baby Sean come on and besides most of his twists are fresh and shocking. This book is the one I'm looking forward to the most post SC.

[Colossal Spoons]

so is Peter David just going to be going for shock endings and unseen twists now to keep interest?

You still hatin' on this book sucka? :argh:

[OutcryX]

nah..just PAD. i love the cast of this book..minus Siryn, Jamie..and Layla. wouldn't mind seeing another writer take charge of the rest of the group though..kill those three off

[Colossal Spoons]

I can part with Siryn and Layla, but Jamie's the best man

[JustABill]

How can someone hate Peter David. When has the guy ever written anything bad? Like never.

Then again Outcry has seemingly terrible taste, so.

[Havok83]

nah..just PAD. i love the cast of this book..minus Siryn, Jamie..and Layla. wouldn't mind seeing another writer take charge of the rest of the group though..kill those three off
I wish he let Monet go so someone else could use her. She's my favorite Gen Xer but I cant get into this book

[JustABill]

Wow. I stand corrected. Just wow. You want Peter David to let go of a character, he's done nothing but good for? Geez, you guys have like no taste at all.

[El Bastardo]

Well, that was one hell of an issue. About time.

Though I hope that, if David does keep up with a split team, he actually finds his stride in terms of pacing this time.

[OutcryX]

How can someone hate Peter David. When has the guy ever written anything bad? Like never.

Then again Outcry has seemingly terrible taste, so.

Howling Mad..one of the worst novels I have ever read.

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this is why i cant stand Peter David

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Maybe he hadn't quite found his stride yet. :p He's been wonderful on this, at least on issues that weren't crossovers.

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X-FACTOR #205


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro, Pat Davidson
COLORS BY Jeromy Cox
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Nathan Fairbairn, Mitric
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, May 19th, 2010

A SECOND COMING TIE-IN! The mutant hunter Bastion has sent the Mutant Response Division and the newly resurrected Bolivar Trask after X-Factor with one mission: Kill them all. And it seems thus far that all is going according to plan. Meanwhile in the jungles of South America, Strong Guy has to form an extremely unlikely alliance if he wants to save Monet from the MRD

[OutcryX]

isnt monet invulnerable?

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X-FACTOR #208
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
What's the single most-asked question we've been getting at X-Factor Central? Will Wolfsbane, cut adrift from X-Force, return to X-Factor? The answer is a resounding "yes." But how is she going to react when she discovers that Rictor and Shatterstar are a couple? Not all that well as Shatterstar finds himself in the fight of his life. And how will Rictor react when he discovers that Rahne is pregnant? What, you want us to tell you everything? We have to leave SOMEthing for you to discover for yourself in what is sure to be the most-talked about X-book of the month, if not the year.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[Colossal Spoons]

Very pleased that Rahne is coming back to the team :up:

[JustABill]

So how kickass was that Darwin moment? Who knew Darwin had that in him?

[Generation Lee]

I loved that Darwin moment really liked that each one stepped up and did their bit.

[Specter313]

Yeah, I think PAD is going to really do wonders for Darwin's character, especially after that scene. Same as how he really took such a blank slate that was just some throwaway deus ex machina at the end of House of M like Layla, and turn her into one of the more complex characters around these days.

[Colossal Spoons]

I found this issue to be a bit boring actually. Enjoyed Darwin though :up:

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X-FACTOR #209
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
It may happen in Vegas, but it's very likely not going to stay there as X-Factor in general--and Longshot in particular--are unleashed on the Las Vegas strip, determined to face down the goddess of death in her lair and save a very unusual client…
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[JustABill]

Gugh. I hate Layla and Jamie's ''M" Tattoos. They remind me of Bishop and reminding me of Bishop is NEVER a good thing.

[Generation Lee]

I like the M marks but to me it depends on the artist drawing them, I like the idea of them especially as SC is happening at the minute.

[Manic]

The M tattoo helps differentiate Butterfly from the 10,000 other blondes on the X-teams who otherwise look just like her.

[Specter313]

That and her striped socks.

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X-FACTOR #206


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro, Pat Davidson
COLORS BY Jeromy Cox
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Nathan Fairbairn
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, June 23rd, 2010

At last! All the members of X-Factor are reunited in this climactic, slam-bang X-plosion of a conclusion as Trask decides to take matters into his own hands and personally direct the forces of the Mutant Response Division into a full blown war against everyone's favorite mutant detective team!

[Manic]

Dr. Strange needs to cure cancer? He runs off to some hidden dimension and retrieves a mythological potion.

Baron Mardo needs to cure cancer? He just needs a recharge.

[squeekness]

Yeah, but is he permanently cured, or does he need to keep recharging over and over again?

[Kevin]

How is the book? I haven't read it in forever.

[squeekness]

Still great as far as I am concerned. :D

[Generation Lee]

nice to know that the last issue didn't rap up M's story just yet.

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The mutant race, under the protection of Scott Summers and the X-Men, might be fighting for its very survival just off the coast of San Francisco, but the members of X-Factor Investigations have their hands full with adventures and disasters all their own. In addition to fending off the machinations of Bastion and Trask as part of the "Second Coming" arc, Jamie Madrox and company find themselves contending with Baron Mordo draining Monet's life, the increasingly grim "stuff" Layla Miller knows, the sheer unpredictability that Shatterstar and Longshot bring to the group and, of course, the usual hazards of serving as the Marvel Universe's private eyes to superheroes and supervillains alike. To top it off, writer Peter David has promised a shock in July's issue #207 to rival that time Madrox ate his baby.

Welcome once again to X-POSITION, where your favorite X-verse creators answer your questions about mutants past, present, and future. Today we have Peter David, aka PAD, who has written every issue of "X-Factor" in its current incarnation as well as reigning over an extended tenure during the series' original run. This column, originally scheduled to run last week, was delayed due to Mr. David's recent surgery to remove a ruptured disc from his lower back and the recovery that followed, a harrowing experience detailed on his blog. We are very happy to hear that PAD is well on the road to recovery, and are pleased to present his responses to your questions!



This week's readers had a wish-list of guest stars and potential new X-Factorians, beginning with Valeria Kementari.

Mr David, since you've taken the role of fulfilling the fans' desires in ways no other writer ever has... will you consider bringing Adam X to "X-Factor" for an issue or two and revealing he is the fourth Summers brother?? After all Sinister, said "brothers" not "three Summers..."

Although I'm not averse to doing something with Adam X (although I've no immediate plans to do so), if I were to make use of him, I very much doubt that I would do a reveal that he's a Summers brother. Certainly I wouldn't do it unilaterally. I'm just not convinced that we need yet another Summers Brother.

Next up we have Taimur Dar, who would like to see an old friend return to the fold:

A while back you mentioned briefly talking with Dan Slott about a possible "Mighty Avengers"/"X-Factor" crossover. Now that MA has ended, any chance of seeing Chris Gage's "Avengers Academy" cast appear in "X-Factor" or even just a Quicksilver/X-Factor reunion?

I'd love to borrow Quicksilver for an issue or two, but there are no plans afoot for the moment.

On the subject of characters who will be appearing though, Steve McSheffrey dreams of the possibilities for Rahne (Wolfsbane) Sinclair's return.

With your track record for coming up with novel applications to power sets, I'd like to see what you'd do with a mutant who's been mutated into a quasi-Asgardian...

Especially considering that she's not necessarily going to be forthcoming about what's happened to her.

Marcus Martin continues, noting connections between Ms. Rahne and an upcoming X-Factor investigation.

1. Given that Wolfsbane is coming back to team in the future, will the team finally know of what happened to her since they last saw her and vice versa ?

They're going to know in a vague manner that she was involved with some pretty rough stuff, but they're not going to learn the details of what she was up to. But yes, she is most definitely going to find out what X-Factor's been up to.

2. Related to my previous questions, will the two stories of Wolfsbane's pregnancy and the team's job for Hela connect in some way, given Hela's previous encounter with Wolfsbane's former lover ?

Let's just say that there is indeed going to be some degree of connection between the two, although the manner in which it happens may not be what you were expecting.

But will she stay or will she go now? Joshua Hetherington wants to know:

1. Will Wolfsbane's reappearance be a permanent return? Or will it be a guest appearance?

Hey, I'll keep her around for as long as they let me.

2. I'm so excited for X-Cell to return! Any chance on some details about Fatale, Abyss, Callisto and Marrow's own personal second coming!?!?

They will return eventually, but not for at least another six months.

Airy Maher has a few questions about old friends, new tech, and black sheep.

1. Banshee and Shatterstar had established a good friendship back in their X-Force days. Will their friendship be re-established in X-Factor?

Banshee is still somewhat wary of the new incarnation of Shatterstar. So she's going to be approaching him a bit cautiously.

2. Now that the series is reaching into the wider Marvel Universe, who is one Marvel character that would *never* darken X-Factor Investigations' doorstep?

I've learned in my time to never say never. I mean, I've been thinking about your question and I keep coming up with possibilities, but every time I do I then think, "But, hey, you know what would be interesting if this person showed up...?" So I don't want to single anyone out because, hey, you never know.

3. Rictor has been through a lot over the years. How has his attitude changed since X-Factor relocated back to New York? Is Shatterstar aware he once tried to take a long walk off a short building ledge?

No, Shatterstar is unaware at this point of Rictor's mini-mental breakdown back in issue #1. Over time, Rictor has become more and more convinced that he can be of use to his team without his powers. He's learned not to allow himself to be defined by his mutant abilities, or lack thereof. That's why the new dynamic between himself and Shatterstar is so interesting. He feels like he's finally learned who he is, and he's not sure he can be what Shatterstar wants/needs him to be.

4. With the recent debate over digital distribution, how would you feel if "X-Factor" were ever available on the Marvel iTunes app?

Well, if it were okay with Marvel, I really wouldn't have much of anything to say about it. They're the copyright holders, and if it's okay with them, it's fine by me.

Digressing from "X-Factor" for a moment, J. J. Meylar has a question about Mr. David's work as a novelist.

Hey, Mr. David:

I've been loving how much "X-Factor" has been seeming to be getting more and more into the mainstream Marvel Universe. I mean: I've been reading the solicits each month and am REALLY looking forward to Hela being a client. But, that's neither here nor there. I have a question that I'd like to ask:

Do you have any plans for writing a sequel novel to "Wolverine: Election Day?" I mean: you DID, kind of, set up for one...

I did indeed lay trackwork for a sequel, but that was mostly in the event that Pocket [Star Books] came back and asked me to DO a sequel. That hasn't happened thus far; I'm not sure of what Pocket's overall plans for Marvel novels are.

White Phoenix goes straight to the source to resolve a friendly debate about "X-Factor" history.

I've been a huge fan of yours since you wrote "X-Factor" in the early '90s. Your recent work with tying up loose-ends in the current run of "X-Factor" was, I thought, some of the best writing the X-Universe has seen in quite some time. But now, I've got a question for you.

I was debating with a friend of mine the classification of The Isolationist/ Josef Huber. My friend said he was a mutant, I said he wasn't due to what you were quoted saying in an interview. So we tried to settle this by searching the internet, which rendered an interesting result. It said Josef Huber was a Mutate. Now, my question is this: Is Josef Huber the Mutate that was never fully revealed in your original run on "X-Factor" (issue #89)?

That was my intention, yes.

Can't get much more straightforward than that! The answer to Harostar's question about the particulars of Shatterstar's powers, however, requires a bit more finessing, as we'll see.

In #201, we were given a vague explanation for how Shatterstar's teleportation works. It was mentioned that he needs an anchor, someone he shares a connection with -- namely, boyfriend Rictor and potential father Longshot. But in the most recent issue, he seems to be able to use Layla as an anchor as well. While it's clear the two have done some bonding while stuck in Latveria, it seems odd after he'd previously stated it couldn't be just anyone. Care to enlighten us on what's up with that?

That's actually a good question, and one that Rictor is going to be trying to get to the bottom of. Just exactly what happened with Layla and Shatterstar while in Latveria? We're going to start touching on it in #207 and it is going to be explored further, and eventually we will be revealing just how "much" of a connection Shatterstar needs to have with his anchor in order for the relationship to function.

Thanks to all the readers who sent questions and of course to Peter David for taking the time to talk about "X-Factor." We'll wrap up this edition of X-POSITION with a "Behind the X" question, a bit of getting-to-know-you stretching beyond the world of mutants.

So, Peter David, what is your favorite summer holiday/getaway and why?

We like to head off to Disney World whenever possible; we just feel really comfortable there. Plus, now that Disney's bought Marvel, there are additional perks which we can't wait to make use of.

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X-FACTOR #207


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Sebastian Fiumara
COLORS BY Jeromy Cox
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Nathan Fairbairn
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, July 21st, 2010

Remember when we warned you about the shocking twist involving Madrox's baby? Remember when the return of Shatterstar wound up making every comics-related website? Well, that was just a warm-up for the shocking end of this issue. X-Factor gets a new client, a tall green-garbed woman with a deadly secret, but that's just a set-up for the jaw-dropping final page that's going to reignite the Internet and have fandom going, "Did you BELIEVE what happened at the end of X-Factor #207?!"

[Generation Lee]

BTW if you haven't read it you will see the ending comming a mile off and it's really no big suprise. I've a feeling that PAD might have done all the "hype" as a joke.

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X-FACTOR #210
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
Wolfsbane returns to the team traumatized by her time with X-Force only to be slapped in the face by ex-boyfriend Rictor’s new relationship with Shatterstar. Can Rictor repair the damage and ease her mind? And what exactly is the nature of the child growing inside her? Meanwhile, with the rest of the team in Las Vegas, Monet is visited by a war veteran with a terrifying secret…
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[Manic]

"traumatized by her time with X-Force"? You mean the 2 pages where she fought, followed by 2 dozen issues where she boinked an Asgardian wolf god in the background?

[Kevin]

Didn't she eat her father or something?

[Manic]

Okay, fine. There was the whole thing about getting mind-raped and killing her dad practically as soon as she put on the X-Force uniform.

[Kevin]

Lol She sucked in that book. I'll actually say K&Y dropped the ball with her.

[Havok83]

You guys think PAD will make it so that Rictor is the father of Rahne's baby?

[Charlie No-One]

I hate Rahne. She better not **** up Rictor/Shatterstar

[Kevin]

You guys think PAD will make it so that Rictor is the father of Rahne's baby?
I'd be disappointed, Really.

[Havok83]

I'd be disappointed, Really.
It definetly would create an interesting dynamic not seen in an Xbook before and PAD is all about pushing the envelope. It just had me thinking bc Rahne slept with Rictor right before she left the team and the timing in the early issues of Xforce happened very fast. Probably just a few days to a week passed between the first 2 arcs. It was only assumed that Hrimhari was the father, but I can see Hela having manipulated things in order to put him in a position to sell his soul to her. With her set to appear in this title, I wonder if PAD will go there. Yost/Kyle threw this plot out there and then dropped it without resolving it, so I can see PAD finishing it how he sees fit, assuming he goes this route

[Generation Lee]

I think PAD will do the whole "gay" best friend rising my child with me storyline. K&Y had it that the baby is asgardian as Elixer had to change Wolfbanes DNA in order for the pregancy not to kill her. But there is something there following up on the X-Force story as both Hela and Wolfsbane turn up in the same storyline.

[Havok83]

should be interesting. With Rahne rejoining this book, I think I might try picking it up again. I dropped it as soon as she left right after MC. Whats a good jumping up. Are there any open plots I need to know about or is the post SC X-factor a good enough spot to pick the book up

[Manic]

Not only was it stated that Rahne's baby is Asgardian, but way too much time has passed since Rahne & Rictor had sex. They bumped uglies not too long after Jamie & Terry. Since then, Terry had the "baby," Jamie wandered around on his own for several months before being wisked off to the future, and several more months have passed since Jamie came back and moved the team back to New York. I'd say at least a year has passed since Rahne & Ric made Scottish Tacos. If that's his baby, it's way past overdue.

[Havok83]

Not only was it stated that Rahne's baby is Asgardian, but way too much time has passed since Rahne & Rictor had sex. They bumped uglies not too long after Jamie & Terry. Since then, Terry had the "baby," Jamie wandered around on his own for several months before being wisked off to the future, and several more months have passed since Jamie came back and moved the team back to New York. I'd say at least a year has passed since Rahne & Ric made Scottish Tacos. If that's his baby, it's way past overdue.
ahhh, yes X-factor's timeline moved ahead bc of Siryn's pregnancy, whereas the rest of the X-universe stayed the same. Rahne slept with the wolf prince in the second arc of X-force which wasn't that long after she left X-factor. The rest of the arcs in X-force happened in rapid fire, picking up right where the other left off. We found out she was preggers in Necrosha which was like a couple of weeks after that. But like you said, thats not taking into account that X-factor moved alot faster. Oh well, I wonder where PAD will go with this. Cant be any worse than what Yost/Kyle did or rather didnt do with it

[Manic]

I assumed the big time gap during Terry's pregnancy happened while the other X-books were in "Divided We Stand" mode. I just assumed the the X-Men stayed broken up long enough for Terry to reach her final trimester.

I can't explain the other gaps, though.

[squeekness]

You guys think PAD will make it so that Rictor is the father of Rahne's baby?

Not only was it stated that Rahne's baby is Asgardian, but way too much time has passed since Rahne & Rictor had sex. They bumped uglies not too long after Jamie & Terry. Since then, Terry had the "baby," Jamie wandered around on his own for several months before being wisked off to the future, and several more months have passed since Jamie came back and moved the team back to New York. I'd say at least a year has passed since Rahne & Ric made Scottish Tacos. If that's his baby, it's way past overdue.I thought that what was making Rhane so sick in the crossover was that the baby was Asgardian, which was why her wolf lover had to give up his life to Hela in order for the baby to survive. It was a "supernatural" pregnancy. It couldn't be Rictor's.

[Havok83]

I thought that what was making Rhane so sick in the crossover was that the baby was Asgardian, which was why her wolf lover had to give up his life to Hela in order for the baby to survive. It was a "supernatural" pregnancy. It couldn't be Rictor's.
Oh it was written as a supernatural pregnancy, but I think it was left open ended enough for Hela to have done something off panel to mess with the pregnancy and put the wolf prince in a position where he would feel forced to sell his soul to her.

[squeekness]

Maybe. :)

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X-FACTOR #211
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
It's a battle royale in the streets of Vegas, as Madrox and Longshot discover that sometimes the only thing worse than a plan that doesn't work...is a plan that works all too well. And when that plan is to try and get the attention of a death goddess, and that attention consists of her sending her undead warrior hordes against you, well...what's happening in Vegas may well extend to staying there for eternity…
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X-FACTOR #211
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
It's a battle royale in the streets of Vegas, as Madrox and Longshot discover that sometimes the only thing worse than a plan that doesn't work...is a plan that works all too well. And when that plan is to try and get the attention of a death goddess, and that attention consists of her sending her undead warrior hordes against you, well...what's happening in Vegas may well extend to staying there for eternity…
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

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X-FACTOR #208


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Emanuela Lupacchino, Pat Davidson
COLORS BY Chris Chuckry
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Edgar Delgado
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, August 25th, 2010

What's the single most-asked question we've been getting at X-Factor Central? Will Wolfsbane, cut adrift from X-Force, return to X-Factor? The answer is a resounding "yes." But how is she going to react when she discovers that Rictor and Shatterstar are a couple? Not all that well as Shatterstar finds himself in the fight of his life. And how will Rictor react when he discovers that Rahne is pregnant? What, you want us to tell you everything? We have to leave SOMEthing for you to discover for yourself in what is sure to be the most-talked about X-book of the month, if not the year.



God I love Layla.

[Manic]

I can't figure out if Layla somehow still knows stuff, or if she's just really observant and able to guess how things will turn out now.

Also, that little liar. Jamie's been all up in her brier patch.

[Generation Lee]

Pricless dialogue between her and Strong Guy.

[Manic]

It's a tie between Raimondi and DeLandro.

Stroman can kick rocks. His art on this title was absolutely terrible and almost made me drop the book.

[Kevin]

It will always be Sook for me.

[squeekness]

Pricless dialogue between her and Strong Guy.The dialogue is the best part about this book. :) It has a lot of wit and pop that I wish the other books would have.

[JustABill]

Unfortunately for the other books, Peter David is only one man. Isn't all his time pretty much devoted to X-Factor anyways though?

[squeekness]

I don't know that he's not doing other books for someone else, but this is the only X title he's working on. :)

[JustABill]

Last I heard of him doing two books is when he took over for Slott when he left She-Hulk.

[squeekness]

It's possible. I don't read any of the Hulk books so I wouldn't know. :)

[Generation Lee]

The dialogue is the best part about this book. :) It has a lot of wit and pop that I wish the other books would have.

I have to agree even when the storyline may seem poor with dialogue just grabs me from start to finish. Hell the Rictor/Shatterstar relationship talk had me laughing my head off in the last issue.

[squeekness]

I just love the two of them together. :D I hope that relationship sticks around for a while.

[Nature's Rising]

LOL love love love now Rahne is in the scene. Amazing and funny dialog between Layla and Guido.

[squeekness]

I just hope she doesn't hurt Shatterstar too badly. :p

[Manic]

Oh god, I just realized Rahne's pregnancy has just been carried over to X-Factor. Fear for her child.

[JustABill]

This is why once a character gets pregnant in comics they should set out in limbo until the baby is born.

[Manic]

If you get pregnant in a Marvel comic, lie low until the baby is born.

If you get pregnant in a DC comic, the kid will be completely safe until it's born.

[Havok83]

If she could be pregnant and survive in X-force of all places, I think she has a shot at having a safe pregnancy here...lol

[Manic]

It's not her I'm worried about. It's the baby. Remember what happened the last time someone got knocked up in this title.

[Havok83]

I think the baby will be born probably bc of what happened the last time. She looks pretty far along and I dont see a miscarriage happening here. The baby will most likely be some demon child and a future villian. I dont see her getting to raise it

[Manic]

Of course not. Nobody on the X-teams ever gets to raise their children. They get kidnapped, sent to the future, turned into villains, and rapidly aged to adulthood.

[Generation Lee]

Look at the other parents in the MU nthe Richards, the Cages their kids seem fine also was their a normal child born off panel during Avenger TI.

[Havok83]

Look at the other parents in the MU nthe Richards, the Cages their kids seem fine also was their a normal child born off panel during Avenger TI.
Crystal and Quicksilver were were also relativelty fine with Luna, save that time Cortez kidnapped her.

[JustABill]

Okay. Rahne can leave the book again, because that whore is clearly lying. :argh:

[Havok83]

Okay. Rahne can leave the book again, because that whore is clearly lying. :argh:
LOL...did she say Rictor is the daddy? This actually makes me want to pick it up

[Generation Lee]

She did. But pick it up for the dialogue between her and Shatterstar I'm not kidding it's priceless.

[Havok83]

when was her first issue? Last month? Is that a good jumpong on point? I promptly dropped the book when she left but having her back makes me want to check back in

[Specter313]

She made her shocking return at the very end of last month's issue, when she walked in on Rictor and Shatterstar, and she was a central focus of the issue that came out yesterday.

[Manic]

LOL...did she say Rictor is the daddy?

She did.

lol, that lying Scottish cow.

[Havok83]

Its deifnetly an interesting twist. I speculated and wondered if PAD would go there and make Rictor the father. It could be that she thinks she is lying only to be shocked with the truth if and when its revealed that he really is the daddy

[Manic]

But we saw that the baby is Asgardian during the end of Necrosha. Rahne wasn't capable of carrying a half-Asgardian baby, and it was slowly killing her. The baby's daddy (whatever that wolfdude's name was) made a deal with Hel to save Rahne and the baby's lives.

[Havok83]

But we saw that the baby is Asgardian during the end of Necrosha. Rahne wasn't capable of carrying a half-Asgardian baby, and it was slowly killing her. The baby's daddy (whatever that wolfdude's name was) made a deal with Hel to save Rahne and the baby's lives.
When Hela is involved, you cant always trust what you see. It could be that Hela manipulated things to put Hrimhari in a position where he would be forced to sell his soul to her. Harming Rahne's pregnancy and making him think what was inside her, was his kid, would do that trick

[Manic]

That's jacked up, even for a morally ambiguous god-type.

[JustABill]

I really just think Rahne's being a ***** and wants her man to not be gay with Shatterstar, which is why she can get hit by a truck for all I care at this moment. I'm glad she's out of the clutches of the awful X-Duo that is Kyle and Yost, and in the more competent hands of PAD, but geez, way to make me hate her in her first real issue back.

[Lil Kis]

Does anyone know how many tpb's there are of X-factor Visionaries...you know the first series of X-factor by Peter David. I looked on amazon.com and they had only 4. Is there only 4 or are there more? I just bought the 3rd one. Thanks

[squeekness]

I really just think Rahne's being a ***** and wants her man to not be gay with Shatterstar, which is why she can get hit by a truck for all I care at this moment. I'm glad she's out of the clutches of the awful X-Duo that is Kyle and Yost, and in the more competent hands of PAD, but geez, way to make me hate her in her first real issue back.I don't know if she said it because of Shatterstar or because she doesn't want to do the baby thing alone. Either way, I am certain she was lying and knows it and she's being a total scumbag about it. I think Layla knows she is lying too and I hope she says something before this gets too outta hand. :(

[Generation Lee]

Didn't Exlir wake from his coma and alter her so she can carry the baby and isn't she a bit invulerable at the minute because of this???

[squeekness]

Something like that, yeah. That's how we all know she's a big fat liar. :argh:

[Havok83]

Didn't Exlir wake from his coma and alter her so she can carry the baby and isn't she a bit invulerable at the minute because of this???
yes and that made her attacking Shatterstar and jumping out a window a bit more bearable bc the first thing I thought of was what the hell is wrong with her. I guessing knowing she and child arent at risk by making stupid decisions like that eased her mind about throwing herself in the middle of danger

[Manic]

Holy crap. You quoted something I said way back in 2006. That was way before #200.

[Kevin]

lol.

[NightBeetle]

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X-FACTOR #209


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Emanuela Lupacchino, Pat Davidson
COLORS BY Matt Milla
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Edgar Delgado
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, September 15th, 2010

It may happen in Vegas, but it's very likely not going to stay there as X-Factor in general--and Longshot in particular--are unleashed on the Las Vegas strip, determined to face down the goddess of death in her lair and save a very unusual client…

[Kevin]

Tell me when Rahne dies. I'll be waiting.

[squeekness]

Shatterstar is kewl. :p

[Generation Lee]

Loved this week's issue. Lyla, Longshot and Shatterstar all came into their own in certain ways. It was a really funny story that you could enjoy and yet it still had the drama but it subtle.

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X-FACTOR #212
Written by Peter David
Penciled by Emanuela Lupacchino
Cover by David Yardin
It's time to Ragnarok and roll in Las Vegas, as X-Factor--teamed with everyone's favorite Thunder God--squares off in a high-stakes, winner-take-all throw down with Hela to determine the fate of Pip the Troll. And for one member of the team, it will be the beginning of the end…

[squeekness]

I hope it's not Shatterstar. :( I like him and Rictor together.

[Charlie No-One]

It better not be Rictor or Shatterstar. There are not enough gay/bi characters for them to be killed off.

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #210


STORY BY Peter David
ART BY Valentine De Landro
COLORS BY Jeromy Cox
LETTERS BY VC - Cory Petit
COVER BY David Yardin, Frank D'Armata
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, October 20th, 2010

Wolfsbane returns to the team traumatized by her time with X-Force only to be slapped in the face by ex-boyfriend Rictor’s new relationship with Shatterstar. Can Rictor repair the damage and ease her mind? And what exactly is the nature of the child growing inside her? Meanwhile, with the rest of the team in Las Vegas, Monet is visited by a war veteran with a terrifying secret…

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X-FACTOR #213
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by VALENTINE DE LANDRO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
In the aftermath of the battle with Hela, the team is in upheaval. One member leaves...another arrives...Rictor and Rahne finally have it out over the identity of her baby's father. Guaranteed to be the most emotional issue of X-Factor this month!
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X-FACTOR #214
Written by Peter David
Penciled by Emanuela Lupacchino
Cover by David Yardin
The suicide of a high school student triggers X-Factor's most personal case as X-Factor is hired to learn the identities of the bullies who drove the student to take his own life. But once they have the names, do they turn that information over to the authorities...or to the student's angry family, who may well take punishment into their own hands?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[Colossal Spoons]

Good riddance Darwin. Maybe the next writer to get his hands on you will actually show you using your powers creatively(Nothing against PAD, he just misused the character IMO)

[Manic]

PAD said that a character leaving the team doesn't necessarily mean they're leaving the comic. I think Darwin won't really be going anywhere.

[Colossal Spoons]

Darwin will just have to take a rain check on that "personality"

[Manic]

Darwin was at least a little interesting for a while, but he hasn't done anything worth noting since he got seduced by a mind controlled Monet.

[squeekness]

I gave up on subscribing for that reason alone. I was tried of my books not only coming heinously late, but being bent in the mail. :(

[squeekness]

Really, you should just try to find a shop nearby and get your books on time each wednesday. :) You pay more, dont' get me wrong, but I can't stand not having my stuff right when they come out.

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X-Factor #211


Story by Peter David
Art by Emanuela Lupacchino, Pat Davidson
Colors by Matt Milla
Letters by VC - Cory Petit
Cover by David Yardin, Andrew Crossley
Publisher Marvel Comics
Cover Price: $2.99
Release Date Wed, November 17th, 2010

It's a battle royale in the streets of Vegas, as Madrox and Longshot discover that sometimes the only thing worse than a plan that doesn't work...is a plan that works all too well. And when that plan is to try and get the attention of a death goddess, and that attention consists of her sending her undead warrior hordes against you, well...what's happening in Vegas may well extend to staying there for eternity…

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X-FACTOR #215
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Cover by DAVID YARDIN
A man is dead, apparently the victim of a vampire attack. But is it truly some random crime of violence? Or is it, as his daughter believes, an elaborate ruse, designed to draw attention away from the real culprit? And can X-Factor separate fact from fiction?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99
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X-Factor #212

Story by Peter David
Art by Emanuela Lupacchino, Pat Davidson
Colors by Matt Milla
Letters by VC - Cory Petit
Cover by David Yardin, Morry Hollowell
Publisher Marvel Comics
Cover Price: $2.99
Release Date Wed, December 15th, 2010

It's time to Ragnarok and roll in Las Vegas, as X-Factor--teamed with everyone's favorite Thunder God--squares off in a high-stakes, winner-take-all throw down with Hela to determine the fate of Pip the Troll. And for one member of the team, it will be the beginning of the end…

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, what Darwin did to Hela this week was beyond awesome. Made no sense even by comic book genetics standards, but I guess when magic is involved, sense goes out the window.

[Generation Lee]

I loved it I have to say, it was as if madrox embraced his inner Cyclops lol when that happened.

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X-FACTOR #216 & 217
Written by Peter David
Penciled by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Cover by David Yardin
Ever wonder how X-Factor manages to operate out in the open in a New York City where superhero-hating J. Jonah Jameson is the mayor? Well, here's where you find out, as jolly JJJ thrusts NYC's premiere detective agency into the midst of a murder investigation where the trail may lead them straight to...Jonah himself? Guest-starring the ever-amazing Spider-Man!
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X-Factor #213

Story by Peter David
Art by Valentine De Landro, Pat Davidson
Colors by Jeromy Cox
Letters by VC - Cory Petit
Cover by David Yardin, Sonia Oback
Publisher Marvel Comics
Cover Price: $2.99
Release Date Thu, January 6th, 2011

In the aftermath of the battle with Hela, the team is in upheaval. One member leaves...another arrives...Rictor and Rahne finally have it out over the identity of her baby's father. Guaranteed to be the most emotional issue of X-Factor this month!

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X-Factor #214

Story by Peter David
Art by Emanuela Lupacchino, Guillermo Ortego
Colors by Matt Milla
Letters by VC - Cory Petit
Cover by David Yardin, James Campbel..
Publisher Marvel Comics
Cover Price: $2.99
Release Date Wed, January 19th, 2011

In the aftermath of the battle with Hela, the team is in upheaval. One member leaves...another arrives...Rictor and Rahne finally have it out over the identity of her baby's father. Guaranteed to be the most emotional issue of X-Factor this month!

[Colossal Spoons]

Guaranteed to be the most emotional issue of X-Factor this month!

Funny

[Specter313]

Yes, this comic does tend to give good laughs. :o

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #218
Written by Peter David
Pencils by EMANUELA LUPACCHINO
Covers by David Yardin
If you have tears, prepare to share them now. For, as X-Factor and the Black Cat battles the S.C.A.R. in a desperate attempt to save J. Jonah Jameson--yes, THAT J. Jonah Jameson--one of our heroes lies dying, and survival isn't looking too likely.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

[Colossal Spoons]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Siryn's the only member I'd be fine with losing. Better not actually be Guido :(

[Manic]

I agree. Take Terry instead!


And give us back Sean, while you're at it.

[OutcryX]

Siryn MUST DIE!!!!!

[Kevin]

You know, I miss when this book, like, REALLY focused on Jamie.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well he's been kind of a f**k-up lately

[JustABill]

I could lose Layla maybe. She's just been weird and not in the good way since she became all sexy and grown up.

[Manic]

I still like Layla, but I miss the days when she was Wednesday Addams/Dakota Fanning/Young Drew Barrymore/Creepy Girl From Poltergeist.

[Manic]

I still like Layla, but I miss the days when she was Wednesday Addams/Dakota Fanning/Young Drew Barrymore/Creepy Girl From Poltergeist.

[squeekness]

I didn't think anything could hurt Strong Guy. :( At least not for long.

[Manic]

Guido has always lived with the chance that he might suffer from a violent heart attack or stroke if he absorbs too much energy and doesn't use it up fast enough.

[Colossal Spoons]

That is true

[Generation Lee]

Poor Strong Guy they kill him off just as they finally get his & M's skin tones right.


Why all the Banshee hate? I've liked her from the comic started just offend that the Irishwoman is an alcoholic. Her & Jamie of late have been bouncing off each other really well. Keep her I say.

[Generation Lee]

Poor Strong Guy they kill him off just as they finally get his & M's skin tones right.


Why all the Banshee hate? I've liked her from the comic started just offend that the Irishwoman is an alcoholic. Her & Jamie of late have been bouncing off each other really well. Keep her I say.