Official X-FACTOR Discussion Thread

[Specter313]

X-Factor



Creative Team: Peter David(writer) & Bing Casino(artist)

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Team Members: Madrox, Strong Guy, Siryn, M, Rictor, Butterfly(Layla Miller), Darwin, Longshot, Shatterstar

Storyline Info: M-Day has passed and mutant town, formerly New York's largest population of mutants, has been decimated. What caused all this and why? That is what X-Factor Investigations has decided to try and find out, while dealing with the mysterious Singularity Investigations and the young Layla Miller.

[Charlie No-One]

I got the first issue and likes it. May pick up more.

[Manic]

Is Multiple Man simply going by Madrox, now? I guess we lost another one to Kitty Pryde Syndrome.

[Specter313]

Is Multiple Man simply going by Madrox, now? I guess we lost another one to Kitty Pryde Syndrome.

Everytime I see someone talking about him nowadays, they always just refer to him as Madrox, and that's what his LS was titled, so I think that might be just what he's going by for now, at least.

[Exploding Boy]

"Madrox The Multiple Man" Now-a-days

[PWN3R]

I always thought Multiple Man sounded lame and took too long to say.

"Oh noez! Here comes Multiple Man." :o

[cerealkiller182]

i love the noir style is so awesome. I love the coloring style. I see this book going on for a long time, as long as they keep it simple. Detectvie work, a few mutant vs. mutant bouts. No giant robots and space aliens (unless they are hired by the X-Men to swell the ranks for certain missions)

[Colossal Spoons]

I think Rictor is dead weight. Other than rescue Siryn, he's done nothing worthwhile.

[cerealkiller182]

I think Rictor is dead weight. Other than rescue Siryn, he's done nothing worthwhile.

If i recall (im not totalluy sure) but M hasnt really done tat much either. I think Rictor is a great character especially since every depowered mutatn was kicked out of the mansion, its nice to see loyalties stay somewhere. I hope they flesh him out a little more, maybe more despair about his loss of powers.

[JustABill]

Wow. Dane Cook for Deadpool. Never thought of that one.

[LEX]

I got hooked from the very first issue. This is a great title and one of the best X-books out there. I hope they'll continue for long to come.

About the new issue, I'm liking Wolfsbane more and more now. She was awesome when she yelled at the children after finding out that Layla was beaten up. I'm glad we're seeing more of Wolfsbane now in X-Factor b/c I liked her in New X-Men.

The art is just awesome. Very realistic and not cartoon-y like some.

I hope they'll show more of M. She's hilarious.

[Sean Madrox]

I really enjoy this comic book, I think that they did a great job putting these team members together. Also the art is the best out there, I like the use of the shade and dark colors.

[PWN3R]

Dang the art looks nice. I still haven't read this, but I am going to start with next issue.

[Sean Madrox]

Dang the art looks nice. I still haven't read this, but I am going to start with next issue.

I say track down all the issues and start from #1.

[PWN3R]

Yeah its only on issue 7 or 8 right? Does it have a trade yet?

[LEX]

Dang the art looks nice. I still haven't read this, but I am going to start with next issue.
There are only six issues at the moment. Read all of them.

[Sean Madrox]

I don't believe the trade is out yet.

[Manic]

I always thought Multiple Man sounded lame and took too long to say.

"Oh noez! Here comes Multiple Man." :o
Meanwhile, Strong Guy gets to keep the lamest codename EVER.

The art is nice, but I enjoyed Sook's art in the first few issues to Callero's.

[mightiest_mortal]

I really like Strong Guys codename.. its a blatant pisstake of all the superman, wonderwoman style names.

Im really not digging the art at all at the moment. Id be suprised if the change in artist hasnt really affected the sales.

They need a top notch artist on this book ASAP.

[LEX]

I almost dropped issue 1 when I first started reading it cos I thought the art was just too messy and too dark, but I am glad that I didn't b/c the art really suits well. The story just takes over. The humor, characters, plots were all there. I really hope that they will never change the artist. I'm loving the art. :up:

[cerealkiller182]

I really like Strong Guys codename.. its a blatant pisstake of all the superman, wonderwoman style names.

Im really not digging the art at all at the moment. Id be suprised if the change in artist hasnt really affected the sales.

They need a top notch artist on this book ASAP.

Does he even still go by Strong Guy

[Harlekin]

Does he even still go by Strong Guy
Yep.

I'm loving this title as well, although I'll admit I liked Sook more than I did the new artist. Still, it's a great title, and I'll probably stick with it for the long run.

[Sean Madrox]

I hope the new artist doesn't try to change the style, this last issue was kind of rough.

[mightiest_mortal]

hmmm... u know who i think wud be a great new memeber for X-Factor??


...another Jamie, that split off years ago and lost his powers on Mday.

Wud be mighty interesting.

[cerealkiller182]

You mean a dupe who couldnt be reabsorbed back in to Jamie? (Can the dupes dupe themselves?) Could be interesting, especially if he was a bad guy.

[grey_jeanie]

I bought my first X-factor comic the other day thanks to talk about it on the X-tra section. Issue #7 I think... might be totally wrong. Had Rayne and a girl on the front.

[Colossal Spoons]

hmmm... u know who i think wud be a great new memeber for X-Factor??


...another Jamie, that split off years ago and lost his powers on Mday.

Wud be mighty interesting.

One powerless member is more than enough.

[Specter313]

hmmm... u know who i think wud be a great new memeber for X-Factor??


...another Jamie, that split off years ago and lost his powers on Mday.

Wud be mighty interesting.

Well, I think he has enough drama for now with worrying about the different personalities his dupes could manifest each time he sends one out.

[Specter313]

Cool comparison between the two X-Factor teams:



X-Factor vs. X-Factor
How does the roster for the new lineup stack up against the past?




December 15, 2005 - Launched in 1985, the original X-Factor was comprised of the original five X-Men. The series ran the heroes through the ringer. Angel lost his wings and eventually became Archangel, Beast lost his fur, then lost his intelligence and the entire team discovered their PR manager was, in fact, an evil SOB.
The original team's run couldn't last forever. When the five gave up the ghost in 1991, an all new and quite different X-Factor took over. Written by Peter David, this group has long been regarded of the highlight of the series. Though two more teams would come in as replacements, none came close to matching the chemistry of David's X-Factor.
With X-Factor #1 arriving in stores this week, we thought it might be interesting to compare Peter David's two teams -- past and present. Some of the names remain the same, but even those who've returned have a slightly different bent.


The Old X-Factor (1991)

Havok
The Leader
Havok always came second next to his brother, so it only makes sense that he would follow Cyclops as leader of X-Factor. Surprisingly, Alex Summers is a pretty uptight dude -- He's just not square like his brother.
Polaris
The Hottie
Like Alex, she's a bit of a second-stringer. She's the girl who wishes she could be Magneto's real daughter, instead of just a chic with magnetic powers and green hair. Her relationship with Alex is fractured at first, but the two do their best to rekindle the old romance.
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Multiple Man
The Cool Guy
Until this point, no one had really examined the depths of the human copy machine. Madrox grows exponentially as a character throughout the series and is the focus of the better storylines. He and Guido make for a hell of a comedy duo.
Strong Guy
The Comic Relief
The strong, stupid guy is a stereotype embraced by X-Factor. Guido's not so dumb as he may appear, but he is a little naive at times. His codename comes from his own inability to think of anything better. Amazingly, Strong Guy becomes a fan-fave.
Quicksilver
The Hot-Headed Jerk
He's faster than lightning with a temper to match. The former Avenger always seemed to resent being stuck on the less-glamorous X-Factor. He joined X-Factor after discovering his wife's affair and learning his powers were making him age. His personality is perfectly captured. Yup, he's a jerk.
Wolfsbane
The Mascot
The former New Mutant was, at one point, mentally bonded to Havok. Early on she showed her true feelings for Alex, who was busy trying to show Lorna how much he wanted to get back in her pants. The kid of the group showed she had a short temper and killer instincts early on.


The New X-Factor (2005)

Madrox
The Leader
A more mature Madrox has assumed leadership of the new X-Factor, who's ultimate goal is to discover what caused so many mutants to become powerless. Ironic that the villain is one of their old teammates. Madrox's dupes each share different facets of his personality, which should make for some interesting situations (see end of X-Factor Vol. 2 #1).
M
The Know-It-All
The former obnoxious beeyotch from Generation X is now the obnoxious beeyotch of X-Factor. Monet's powers are a match for any of her teammates, as is her gray matter. She should play nicely opposite the humorous Strong Guy. Expect sparks to fly between her and the other ladies in the group.
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Siryn
The Spokesperson
Siryn's stepped out of her fathers shadow and taken a strong role in the new X-Factor. She's more than just a pretty voice. This songbird has discovered she can modulate her voice to make others like her, even love her. Let's see how well that works on Monet.
Strong Guy
The Comic Relief
Guido was unceremoniously removed from X-Factor following a massive heart attack. He appears to be the one character relatively unchanged over the past few years. Certainly a few wrinkles in the old Strong Guy persona will show over the next few issues.
Wolfsbane
The Edgy Mascot
All grown up, Rahne has returned with a rather atrocious hair style, but the same tenacity we've come to love. We shall revel in her Scottish slang and quirky accent. Look for her to bang heads with anyone who ticks her off in the slightest.
Rictor
The Norm
He has ties to X-Factor that go further back than any other member. One of the troubled teens the original Factor saved, Rictor is now without power. As we've learned from the first issue, this disconnect is far greater than being unable to shake the ground. He adds a homo sapiens perspective to the group.
Layla Miller
The House of M Kid
We're not really sure what is up with Layla Miller. She's the all-new, all-spectacular mutant from House of M who revealed the truth about the alternate reality to all she touched. How will she play into this little drama? We'll have to wait and see.




The Stronger Factor

Peter David's original X-Factor has a big advantage. We've seen how those characters will develop. We can only guess at what's in store for the new X-Factor. Still, we can base some judgment on the merits of the lineup.
When David first took over X-Factor, no one thought much good of the team he'd assembled. Strong Guy? Polaris? Wolfsbane? But David proved he could bring the best out of these second-stringers. With that in mind, the new roster looks to be more dynamic. You have a number of very strong-willed mutants who think they know best fumbling around attempting to solve crimes. It's a recipe for drama.
If David's first attempt at X-Factor had one problem it's that the team never felt cohesive. Sure, it was fun to read, but it felt like six pieces from different puzzles that happened to fit together. At first glance, this team appears a bit more organic. Though David has assembled a team with identical personality hang-ups as the first -- a hot-head, a stick-in-the-mud, an angry self-loather, etc. -- there's a bit more depth this time to those personas. Would we rather be saved by a team lead by Havoc and Polaris? Probably. But which team would we rather read about? That would be the all-new X-Factor. Let's hope David can deliver. If not, the classic X-Factor tales are just a quarter box away.

[Chamber_UK]

I just have to say X-Factor is the true Melting Pot X-Team:

Half of them aren't American (Rictor - Mexican, Wolfsbane - Scottish, Siryn - Irish, M - French/Algerian).

They are reprosentative all different aspects of the Marvel world (Mutants, Human/Depowered Mutants, and the Unknown...Lila Miller).

The fact also that non of them have ever been on the MAIN X-Teams has granted the characters and the team as a whole a degree of ambiguity that i think makes this book truely fresh and new, and can't wait to see how everything plays out.

[Manic]

I'm pretty sure M is from Monaco, not France. Granted, Monaco is practically dangling off of France.

[Chamber_UK]

Her father was the Algerian ambassader too Monaco.

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #10
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by ROY ALLAN MARTINEZ
Cover by RYAN SOOK
They have been a thorn in X-Factor’s side since the beginning, and now matters are coming to a head. In the first of a three part epic—“Multiple Disclosure”—X-Factor’s newest assignment causes them to once again cross paths with their arch rivals, Singularity Investigations. The result is revelations that strike to the very core of who and what Jamie Madrox is, especially when he learns that SI head Damian Tryp is responsible for one of the greatest tragedies.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

[Manic]

You know, I really hate reading solicits for comics that come out several months from now. Some of them have a tendency to give away plot points from past issues.

[Specter313]

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Here's how Marvel describes the issue:

"'Two Meetings, One in Person, One Not.' Think it's tough to convince fans that one of Marvel's mighty mutants was genuinely killed in action and never returning? Try convincing one of X-Factor's members, lost in denial over the death of a loved one. Meanwhile, Jamie Madrox has his first face-to-face confrontation with Mr. Tryp, the mysterious head of Singlarity Investigations...and let's just say it doesn't go very well for Madrox."
X-Factor #7 will be 32 pages and will cost $2.99.



"Nostradamus reborn as Wednesday Addams", just perfect, I love it.

[Manic]

Curious that none of the A-listers feel it necessary to tell the guardians of Mutant Town what caused the Decimation. Of course, I'm still wondering why none of the people who actually know are doing anything about it, but I guess that's my problem.

[chris moore]

Its not so much a not doing anything about it - simply that no-one can find Wanda to undo what's been done. Only a handful of people know about the HoM and to tell any others might be the undoing for mutants. If the world found out that a reality warping mutant re-wrote the world entirely, then re-wrote it again to remove mutants almost completely - especially when there's only like a four hundred of em now (198 being a relative value of course), then those four hundred would be hunted own and exterminated like rats for fear of one of em doing it again.

I like that they've ackknowledged the events in Genesis in a big way by the way - I'd like to see more regular contact with the mansion in the same way as the Avengers and FF used to chat over vid links about situations and get info from one another.

[Manic]

I get why they're not making it public knowledge. It's just that you'd think they'd put a little more effort into finding Wanda. She doesn't show up on Cerebro and, what, they give up? That's it? Have they even talked to Dr. Strange since House of M?

I mean, come on! Cerebro isn't the end-all/be-all of tracking people down. Hell, Magneto used to wear a freaking helmet that rendered Cerebro useless. Thank god Vulcan came back with a vengeance; otherwise, the X-Men never would've seen Charles Xavier again.

I love the X-Factor book. It's written wonderfully, and it dealt with the Decimation very well. However, my main gripe is that it's the only book that dealt with Decimation well. Every other book has either been ignoring it, mentioned it in passing before jumping into something unrelated, or used it as an excuse to kill a few dozen teenagers.

[Wolverazio]

Have they even talked to Dr. Strange since House of M?

Dr. Strange showed up in HOM 8 saying he was fecked up and couldn't feel Wanda anymore.

[Generation Lee]

Its not so much a not doing anything about it - simply that no-one can find Wanda to undo what's been done. Only a handful of people know about the HoM and to tell any others might be the undoing for mutants. If the world found out that a reality warping mutant re-wrote the world entirely, then re-wrote it again to remove mutants almost completely - especially when there's only like a four hundred of em now (198 being a relative value of course), then those four hundred would be hunted own and exterminated like rats for fear of one of em doing it again.

I like that they've ackknowledged the events in Genesis in a big way by the way - I'd like to see more regular contact with the mansion in the same way as the Avengers and FF used to chat over vid links about situations and get info from one another.

Agreed. And God help Vulcan when he gets back to Earth Syrin will kill him. :O

[LEX]

Oh, cool, I'm glad they're acknowledging the stuff that's happened in Deadly Genesis. :up: And yes, GL -- Siryn will definitely kick Vulcan's ass if he returns. :p

"If Nostradamus was reborn as Wednesday Addams, that'd be her."

LOL.

[MoPlaYa]

I need to get X-factor # 7

[Manic]

Terry is in denial, but it's almost fourth-wall-breaking denial. She has to be one of the few X-teamsters to ever acknowledge that these people always think someone has died, and they're always proven wrong when they show up days to years later.

[Orko Is King]

Is there a TPB available yet?

[LEX]

Oh, yeah, Terry's in total DEEP denial. I feel sorry for her. The video was a nice touch.

Anyway, the new issue was good. Some funny bits. Looks like Madrox's got himself a new enemy. I didn't see that coming; Madrox meeting with Tryp being a dupe. Not enough Rahne and M, in my opinion...

Guido: "Oh...crap. Oh, holy... I feel like an idiot."
M: "Go with the feeling."

Lol. :up:

Can't wait for the next issue.

[Manic]

I didn't see that coming; Madrox meeting with Tryp being a dupe.
Wow. Seriously? Even though Jamie said he wouldn't, I figured he'd do it anyway.

What I want to know is why Tryp made that offer. Did the old Merlin-looking oracle guy predict that X-Factor would put Singularity out of business? Also, I found it interesting how Jamie made the comment about how Tryp's office has an almost ancient motif, and asked how long they'd been in business. It got me wondering... how old are the Tryps? And has Singularity always been an investigative firm?

[Colossal Spoons]

I never knew Jamie's dupes could duplicate themselves. I guess so after this issue.

[Manic]

I never knew Jamie's dupes could duplicate themselves. I guess so after this issue.
Oh, it's been like that since... uh... forever. There was a time when one of his dupes ran away and lived on his own for a few years. Created its own dupes and everything. When Jamie and the runaway dupe got into a fight, they each made about 20 dupes to fight each other. As it turns out, 40 is just about Jamie's limit.

His dupes can also absorb other dupes. If one of his dupes gets injured, it can absorb healthy dupes to heal itself.

[Sean Madrox]

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Rating: RATED T+ X-FACTOR: THE LONGEST NIGHT PREMIERE (http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=4510)
The Story: In the fallout from HOUSE OF M and following the surprise film-noir hit MADROX, a new mutant team is forged! X-Factor is an investigative mutant agency that includes Madrox, the Multiple Man; Guido, the Strong Guy; Wolfsbane, the shape-shifter; Siryn, the chorus girl; Rictor, the living earthquake; and GENERATION X’s Monet, the pompous witch. Drawn together in the heart of District X, this rag-tag band of heroes has a lot of answers to find, and fast! BONUS: A key player from HOUSE OF M will play a major roll in X-FACTOR! (No, it’s not Wolverine — sigh.) Collects X-FACTOR #1-6.
144 PGS./Marvel T+ ...$19.99

In Stores: 2006-07-19

[Joaqenix]

I didn't see that coming; Madrox meeting with Tryp being a dupe. Not enough Rahne and M, in my opinion...

I knew it wasn't all along, because I remember reading either in the Letters page one time or somewhere on the internet that they change the font of Madrox when hes talking and its one of the dupes. When the dupe was meeting with Tryp the font was very different than normal. Nice touch I think.

Also I totally agree with you on M. Shes the least developed of all the characters by far, hopefully she'll be focused on in an issue soon.

By the way, I have a question on Rictor. I think in the last Letters page David talked about Shatterstar and Rictor as if there was something going on there in the past. Did that really happen/when/what was going on exactly? I had no idea personally.

[Specter313]

I'm really interested in the fact that Tryp admitted that he's the one that killed Madrox's parents.

By the way, I have a question on Rictor. I think in the last Letters page David talked about Shatterstar and Rictor as if there was something going on there in the past. Did that really happen/when/what was going on exactly? I had no idea personally.

There was an idea/rumor tossed around for a while that Rictor and Shatterstar were a gay couple. It never actually was shown on the pages of any comic though.

[TwilightPro101]

So far this series has really hit the right nerve on my end. It's just not a duplicate of all the other X books. I love the noirish approach that they've carried over and the team dynamic is typical David.

[spark627]

I'm really interested in the fact that Tryp admitted that he's the one that killed Madrox's parents.



There was an idea/rumor tossed around for a while that Rictor and Shatterstar were a gay couple. It never actually was shown on the pages of any comic though.


it was strongly hinted they were a couple, i hope they go forward with this. if any book is going to have gay character, it is def x-factor. if it doesnt work with shatterstar, rictor could always dates jamies gay dupe lol.

also, i cant wait to see what the deal is with tryp and jamies parents

[MoPlaYa]

Jamie`s gay dupe cracked me up

[MoPlaYa]

I actually like Ariel Olivetti`s artwork

[LEX]

Jamie`s gay dupe cracked me up
Jamie had a gay dupe in this issue??

[Nightwolf]

Id prefer Ric and Rhane back together, they could be the new R&R.

[Specter313]

Id prefer Ric and Rhane back together, they could be the new R&R.

When were they ever an item?

[Nightwolf]

Towards the end of new mutants when they joined with the x-terminators to around just after Rhane joined x-factor for the first time.

[MoPlaYa]

Jamie had a gay dupe in this issue??

No he had a gay dupe in the Madrox series

[MoPlaYa]

Can`t wait for issue #8

[LEX]

No he had a gay dupe in the Madrox series
I see.

[Charlie No-One]

I wanted to buy some issues the other day and I didn't see it on the stand in my comic shop so I asked. The man said it was a horrible series and no one buys it so he stopped ordering it. I pissed. It is not a horrible series and now I am missing the rest of the issues.

[LEX]

Horrible series?

What the ****? Kick his ass!

[Charlie No-One]

But people wanted it, I mean, he was asked multiple times.

[Sean Madrox]

I wanted to buy some issues the other day and I didn't see it on the stand in my comic shop so I asked. The man said it was a horrible series and no one buys it so he stopped ordering it. I pissed. It is not a horrible series and now I am missing the rest of the issues.

He really must be on drugs or something to say that its a horrible series. Is there any other comic book shop around where you live, because I highly recommend this series, hell you could always go on eBay, there some people that sell comics cheap on there. Including me myself lol :).

[Charlie No-One]

I have the first issue and enjoyed it alot. That shop is twenty minutes away from me and I don't have anything closer. I will just wait for the TPB.

[Sean Madrox]

I have the first issue and enjoyed it alot. That shop is twenty minutes away from me and I don't have anything closer. I will just wait for the TPB.

Damn that sucks, well the TPB should be coming out fairly soon. I posted when it comes out, I believe its July. *Looks back at previous post* Yeah it comes out July, 19th so not really a long wait.

[LEX]

When is the next issue coming out?

[Manic]

A comic shop owner corrupted by power. Not that I can blame him. If I owned my own comic shop, I'd have stopped ordering Milligan's run on X-Men so idiots would stop buying every issue simply so they could complain about it. "I hate Milligan's run, but I'm still going to buy it." Not from my shop, pal.

[Sean Madrox]

When is the next issue coming out?

The next issue comes out June 28th.

[LEX]

The next issue comes out June 28th.
Thanks. Cheers. :up:

[Sean Madrox]

A comic shop owner corrupted by power. Not that I can blame him. If I owned my own comic shop, I'd have stopped ordering Milligan's run on X-Men so idiots would stop buying every issue simply so they could complain about it. "I hate Milligan's run, but I'm still going to buy it." Not from my shop, pal.

I'll boycott your Comic Shop lol...j/k.

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The next issue comes out June 28th.

Thanks. Cheers. :up:

You welcome.

[MoPlaYa]

X-Factor is probably the best X comic out right now...I have all 7 issues and i`m gonna buy the TBP so i can seal up my comics

[The Watchman]

Possibly the best thing Marvel is putting out right now. :up:

[Generation Lee]

Ok a really stupid question but how many arcs have there been. I mean I've got all the issues and cannot actually figure out where one starts and finishes they seem kinda tied all together yet standalone at the same time.

[Manic]

X-Factor isn't written in arcs. It's serialized. It's kinda like a soap opera: the episodes just chain together, but they're written almost stand-alone, so you can jump in and get addicted at almost anytime.

Kinda like Exiles, back before Hyperion was involved.

[MoPlaYa]

the first 12 issues will probably be one arc

[MoPlaYa]

I hope they get a steady artist for this comic

[LEX]

Why? I like the current artist just fine. The drawing and colouring style are both great. It feels realistic.

[Manic]

I think Moplaya means that the artist changes every couple of issues. We need one who will stick around.

[MoPlaYa]

I think Moplaya means that the artist changes every couple of issues. We need one who will stick around.

yes thats what I mean...I liked Sook`s artwork...too bad he left...Calero`s artwork was ok...Ariel Olivetti who did the art for issue 7 was pretty good even though her art was a bit cartoony. Hoepfully they get one consistant artist for X-Factor...i`d personally love to see Larocca but only with Liquid

[Kevin]

Jamie`s gay dupe cracked me up Jamie has a gay dupe? pleas... tell me more.

[MoPlaYa]

Jamie has a gay dupe? pleas... tell me more.

He had a gay dupe in the Madrox series

[stormcloud03]

X-factor is great comic!
But I am curious to find out more about little I know things girl.
Did she indeed made that awful mark on her face?

[Specter313]

I think we need a mod to merge this thread with The Offical X-Factor Thread

No. We do not need to go through that bull**** again. Close that other thread.

[Specter313]

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X-Factor #8
32 full color pages
Written by: Peter David
Art by: Dennis Calero
Release Date:June 28, 2006
Price: $2.99



X-Factor has been one of the breakout successes of the last year, spinning out of last year's blockbuster mini-series House of M, and things are about to get even more exciting for Jamie Madrox and crew as Quicksilver and Spider-Man guest-star.

X-Factor #8, the first part of a Civil War tie-in, shows the team of X-Factor Investigations as the Superhero Registration Act comes bearing down on the super-hero community. But as X-Factor stands on the verge of Civil War, a vilified former member makes his return.

Quicksilver was a founding member of the second incarnation of X-Factor, but is he now a friend or foe? And just what does Pietro have in mind for Mutant Town?

And Quicksilver isn't the only guest-star as a certain Friendly Neighborhood Wall-Crawler stops by. Now that wouldn't have anything to do with Civil War, would it?

Peter David and Dennis Calero pack all this and more into X-Factor #8. If you're a fan of anything, X-Factor #8 is for you!

[Specter313]

Layla's so awesome.

[Manic]

Difference between X-Factor and X-Men:
-Most of the X-Men know what caused Decimation, but gave up on trying to fix it after 5 minutes on Cerebro.
-If X-Factor found out what caused Decimation, they (unlike everyone who already knows) would actually try to do something about it.

We know from a previous issue that Layla doesn't want X-Factor to find the truth behind Decimation. Notice that she managed to get Quicksilver chased away from the office. He would've told them.

I think X-Factor will finally discover the truth. And it won't be pretty when they cut off all ties with the rest of the superhero community. X-Factor is going out of their way to protect mutant town, and nobody in the X-Men or Avengers saw fit to tell them why. I know I'd be pissed.

[Specter313]

Actually, as far as I can tell, the only X-Men who know, unless I've missed something, about House of M are the ones who had their memories in tact after the world changed back. Which would include Emma, Cyclops, Kitty, and Wolverine.

[MoPlaYa]

I can`t wait for this issue

[LittleMissVixen]

I love the book thus far. Great storytelling and character interaction.

However...the only thing it is lacking is...more Monet (M)!

[Manic]

Actually, as far as I can tell, the only X-Men who know, unless I've missed something, about House of M are the ones who had their memories in tact after the world changed back. Which would include Emma, Cyclops, Kitty, and Wolverine.
You get my point, though. They're not trying.

[Sean Madrox]

I also can't wait for this issue, well for every issue because its great story-telling. This has been the most anticipated comicbook for me every month. I also agree they really don't show alot of Monet in it, but she is still felt lol. I hope this issue the group finds out what happened and what precautions they are going to take.

[Gilpesh]

I have to saw Layla is stealing the show in this book especially with what she did in those preview pages. Not a problem but I just cannot wait until X-Factor gets a chance to sit down with them and figure Decimation out and Layla gets what is coming to her.

[MoPlaYa]

Does anyone know if its true X-Factor v.s Astonishing X-Men in issue #9?

[squeekness]

I have to saw Layla is stealing the show in this book especially with what she did in those preview pages. Not a problem but I just cannot wait until X-Factor gets a chance to sit down with them and figure Decimation out and Layla gets what is coming to her.I just can't figure out if Layla is supposed to be a god guy or bad guy in this.

[Sean Madrox]

Your not the only one Squeeks.

[MoPlaYa]

me 3....lol :)

[Generation Lee]

I'd say Miss Miller is simply Grey inbetween good and Evil.

[Gilpesh]

I just can't figure out if Layla is supposed to be a god guy or bad guy in this.

I think she clearly explains it to that assassin she stops in issue #3.

I have to make sure X-factor never finds out the truth behind Decimation. I have to make sure it sticks.

See? Bad guy(girl). She might not like being the bad guy which is what makes it seem like she is in-between.

[MoPlaYa]

I love miss Miller in this book

[Exploding Boy]

And X-Factor Civil War Preview:
Civil War has divided X-Factor in half with some supporting the Superhuman Registration Act and the other half wanting to take a stand against it in X-Factor #9. Now it’s up to Madrox to make a decision that will decide the future of X-Factor and whether it stands or falls apart.

You want more? How about a special guest appearance by the Astonishing X-Men? And how will X-Factor react upon learning the secret that Cyclops, Beast, Colossus, Kitty Pryde, and Wolverine have kept from them?

Still want even more? As if an escalating war and the most popular team in comics wasn’t enough, the person behind the House of M and the resulting Decimation of many of the world’s mutants has arrived in Mutant Town. And it falls to X-Factor to keep Quicksilver from turning the town upside down in X-Factor #9.

Quicksilver has resurfaced in Mutant Town offering former mutants the chance to regain their powers, but what happens when he gives the same offer to the depowered Rictor? Will he accept and if he does, what price will he have to pay?

You’ve got questions and X-Factor #9 has the answers. Do not miss the second part of the Civil War tie-in that has dangerous consequences for the future of X-Factor.


X-FACTOR #9 (MAY062009)
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by DENNIS CALERO
Cover by RYAN SOOK
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99
FOC – 6/29, On Sale 7/19/2006

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[Kevin]

so... anyone gonna tell us what happened?

[The Watchman]

go buy it :up:

...it's good.

[El Bastardo]

The issues keep getting better and better, seriously. There's not been a real lull in the story at all. Just from reading David's comments in this issue's letters page, I can't wait to see what happens in issues 10-12, and...

Heh. A personal pet peeve of comic book companies in general, and Marvel especially. Look at the last letter - the kid asking why there were no O.N.E. Sentinels impacting X-Factor Investigations, and no one came to round them up like the 198 mini showed. David's answer was along the lines of there being nothing in place for writers to have much of an idea as to what other writers are doing. Yeah, you know, because otherwise comics might have a bit of consistency between issues. Who'd want that? :rolleyes:

But, aside from that, this issue had a few bombs dropped, and I eagerly await what happens with Quicksilver meeting them.

[Generation Lee]

Loved the Lyla/ Quicksliver Exchange Priceless. I found one thing I didn't like the way M was drawn at her reaction to Agent Madrox, I mean she looked way too old. She's what 18 at most supposidly?

[Manic]

Loved the Lyla Quicksliver Exchange Priceless found one thing I didn't like the way M was drawn at her reaction to Agenat Madrox I mean she looked way too old. She's what 18 at most supposidly?
Use some punctuation, Lee. Do you know how many sentences you have between "Loved" and "old"?

Anyway, I always thought it was weird that M looked like such an adult under Calero's (and even Sook's) penciling. She's barely legal. Has Jubilee been stealing her youth, or something? (It'd probably explain why Jubes has been aging backward.)

[LEX]

Ugh. Cliffhangers. I hate them. :o

I cannot wait for the next issue. The previews look amazing. It's great that the X-Men are making an appearance. It's war.

I did like the Layla/Quicksilver confrontation.

The Guido/Layla short conversation was hilarious, yet sweet. Mysterious, that girl is. We need another Layla X-Factor issue. We barely scratched the surface.

[El Bastardo]

The Guido/Layla short conversation was hilarious, yet sweet. Mysterious, that girl is. We need another Layla X-Factor issue. We barely scratched the surface.

That was fantastic, and a great literary reference by David. She says to Guido, "Atlas shrugged," causing him to walk away with Madrox, commenting on how weird she is. Then, close to the issue's end, she makes the mention to someone (I don't have the issue with me at the moment) that she has the weight of the world on her shoulders. That's just yummy.

[MoPlaYa]

I went to the comic shop to buy issue 8 and it was sold out...I have to wait until next week to get it.....:mad:

[Effect]

X-Factor is really a great title, far better then I ever expected it to be. What I love about it is how character driven the story is. I think is exactly why I've never became a huge fan of the other X-men titles like I wanted to be. I love character driven stories and X-Factor seems to be very character driven. It doesn't come off as action with character interactiosn wrapped around it. It seems to be the other way around and that's exactly what I'm looking for.

If the past X-Factor series are like this I might just have to look for them.

Layla and Quicksilver's talk was pretty good, hell the whole thing was good. Just still have to get used to the art work but that's another thing that sets it apart. It isn't as if I'm reading some huge picture show, it's the actual characters that drive the book and make it interesting, not so much the art like some other titles where that gets the main focus.

[Gilpesh]

I went to the comic shop to buy issue 8 and it was sold out...I have to wait until next week to get it.....:mad:

Tell me about it. I had to go to a couple of different places to get it.

[squeekness]

X-Factor is really a great title, far better then I ever expected it to be. What I love about it is how character driven the story is. I think is exactly why I've never became a huge fan of the other X-men titles like I wanted to be. I love character driven stories and X-Factor seems to be very character driven. It doesn't come off as action with character interactiosn wrapped around it. It seems to be the other way around and that's exactly what I'm looking for.

If the past X-Factor series are like this I might just have to look for them.

Layla and Quicksilver's talk was pretty good, hell the whole thing was good. Just still have to get used to the art work but that's another thing that sets it apart. It isn't as if I'm reading some huge picture show, it's the actual characters that drive the book and make it interesting, not so much the art like some other titles where that gets the main focus.Alias was one of my favorite books so I was able to get used to this kind of artwork. I normally like ultra real stuff as a rule, but thanks to Alias, I don't really mind the art in this book. Like Alias, it's the writing that's the real gem. I admit to being somewhat frustrated and bored with the regular X-books lately (with the exception of Astonishing) so this book is a welcome change of pace. I have to thanks Specter, GNR, and Power Ranger for talking me into it. :)

[Kevin]

i just read the Madrox series and it was FANTASTIC!!! PAD RULES!!!

[Sean Madrox]

i just read the Madrox series and it was FANTASTIC!!! PAD RULES!!!

Yeah I read the series about a week ago and it was great. I'm bummed because I have yet to get my hands on the latest X-Factor. Damn 4th of July has pushed back shipping to my comicbook store!

[MoPlaYa]

Yeah I read the series about a week ago and it was great. I'm bummed because I have yet to get my hands on the latest X-Factor. Damn 4th of July has pushed back shipping to my comicbook store!

Same here....:mad: :(

[Specter313]

i just read the Madrox series and it was FANTASTIC!!! PAD RULES!!!

Speaking of, since they're still looking for a new regular artist on this title, what would everyone think of the artist for the Madrox mini, Pablo Raimondi, taking over as the main penciller?

[MoPlaYa]

Speaking of, since they're still looking for a new regular artist on this title, what would everyone think of the artist for the Madrox mini, Pablo Raimondi, taking over as the main penciller?

Dude,That would be awesome!!...I love his artwork

[Generation Lee]

Loved his art I thought it was a hybrid of Noir and Comic and you could make everything out lol.

[Specter313]

Loved his art I thought it was a hybrid of Noir and Comic and you could make everything out lol.

I know. I loved Sook on this, it really fit the tone. Calero is fine most of the time, but after Sook, it doesn't really stand out as much, and I certainly wouldn't mind going back to Pablo.

[MoPlaYa]

I`m pissed off because all the comic shops in my area are sold out of issue 8...I`ll never get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :(

[Harlekin]

Finally got to reading #8. Loved it, as usual. Can't wait for #9.

I hope they stick with Calero or Sook. Pablo's art was great, but I don't think it fits the book.

Also, I was kinda miffed to read in the letters page that Marvel is still lacking big time in the organisatorial part of the field (the whole bit with the Sentinels and stuff).

[Specter313]

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X-FACTOR #12
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by RENATO ARLEM
Cover by RYAN SOOK
It all climaxes here: The final showdown with Mr. Tryp and Singularity, X-Factor’s desperate race to save all the former mutants from annihilation, and the truth behind the shocking traitor in their midst.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

[SMroxs]

Anyone read #9 yet? I gotta say I didn't see the divsion between Cyclops and Madrox coming... well, not to this degree anyway. They basically both told each other to p!ss off. Madrox has come a long way in character development!

I thought the little exchange between Layla and Madrox was priceless, absolutely priceless. When she tells him "because someday we'll be married", I couldn't help but chuckle. I love her character. I am curious to see why she thought it was so important to keep the truth of M Day from X-Factor though.

One additional thought about that, Cyclops said that the reason he was keeping M-Day a secret was because he didn't want it to be public knowledge that one lone mutant had enough power to reshape the world for fear it would drive normal humans to hate and fear mutants more. But if you think about it there were many heroes who retained their memories so Cyke had to expect that someday the information would leak, which it has since now SHIELD knows the truth.

The other thing I didn't fully understand from the issue is how Cyclops, and X-Factor, could let Quicksilver just set up shop in Mutant Town. The man was responsible for M Day! How could they just look the other way? Clearly he is bad news now and allowing him to roam free should've been an obviously bad idea.

[El Bastardo]

The other thing I didn't fully understand from the issue is how Cyclops, and X-Factor, could let Quicksilver just set up shop in Mutant Town. The man was responsible for M Day! How could they just look the other way? Clearly he is bad news now and allowing him to roam free should've been an obviously bad idea.

I don't think it's that simple. Cyke didn't have much choice, given the threat of being overrun by Madrox dupes. Mutant Town really isn't the X-Men's jurisdiction, if you will, so. As for X-Factor, I figure it's one threat a time. They wanted the X-Men off their turf, and they'll handle Quicksilver later.

[squeekness]

I agree. Cyke was showing restraint. I know I have said this many times already, but this continues to be one of my favorite books. I love how mysterious Layla is and how I am learning more about Jamie all the time. Awesome book. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Layla has been creeping me out since day one. Personally, I hope we never get an explanation about her. Not because I don't wanna know, but I fear that it'd be so convoluted and just....bad.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I know a Layla... but I told her about a mutant name Layla and I still wanna know who she is. lol

[Effect]

Another great issue. :) Once again X-Factor proves why it's the best X-title out there I feel. :) Jamie is quickly becoming my favorite X-character, hell all of X-Factor keeps going up the ranks. It was good to see X-Factor stand up to the Astonishing team. I noticed that Emma wasn't there and even if a fight broke out I don't think Cyclops and crew would have won. Jamie is a one man army with with the others providing back it wasn't going to be pretty, especailly if Quicksilver decided to jump in. Then there are all those mutants in Mutant town that would most likely side with X-Factor if it even came to that.

Layla is great and she just gets better and better. Love Madrox's reaction to her comment about why they will be arguing for a long time to come. Can't wait for #10.

[Kevin]

read the issue. it was good, art's getting on my nerves though

[squeekness]

I thought Specter said they were still looking for a regular artist. Hopefully it will get better. :)

[Specter313]

I thought Specter said they were still looking for a regular artist. Hopefully it will get better. :)

Yeah, Calero is being considered just a placeholder artist until they find someone for a more permanent basis. There should be some other guest artists filling in everyone once in a while too. In fact, Roy Allen Martinez will be doing the next two issues and Renato Arlem will be doing the issue after that.

[Gilpesh]

#9 was awesome. Finally showing why I like Jamie Madrox so much, he's badass.

Plus it answered a question I was thinking about, if Cyke shot him would it make a huge number of dupes, yes.

[squeekness]

I thought it was funny when he fell down the stairs and made more dupes. D'oh! :D

[gothicFLAVOURS]

I love this book too and after reading it Madrox and Siryn are becoming two of my favorite characters. I love how unpredictable the dupes are and the funny situations they put Madrox in. I really like Monet, she's so good with her comments and I really wanna know what's the truth behind M-Day and Layla seems to know it.

This is the X-title I'm enjoying the most right now and I really like the art. Sometimes is a little weird but it's effective.

[Generation Lee]

was I the only one who diidn't get trhis issue or the next of Uncanny?? Seriously my comic shop had neither they have robbed me last week. Hopfully I'll get them this week but all the spoilers are way too tempting lol.

[Gilpesh]

Just try this one.

Snape kills Dumbledore

I hate when I almost missed the last issue cause the places I go don't get enough of them.

[Specter313]

I thought it was funny when he fell down the stairs and made more dupes. D'oh! :D

And then when one of the dupes wanted to do it again and they all screamed NO! at him. Lol.

It's touches like that and Quicksilver's "You know I can hear you" or Layla's "because we eventually get married" stuff that makes me love this book even more.

[Colossal Spoons]

Just try this one.

Snape kills Dumbledore

I hate when I almost missed the last issue cause the places I go don't get enough of them.

So not cool. I had that particular sentence uttered to me 3x before reading the 6th book.

[Gilpesh]

So not cool. I had that particular sentence uttered to me 3x before reading the 6th book.

Which is why it is the best spolier to say for comedic value.

But I have to say back on topic, that was awesome seeing Multiple Man go crazy on those Shield agents in his disguise.

[Specter313]

An update on the artist thing talked about before: Renato Arlem will be doing the penciling for issues #10 - 12.

[Kevin]

what has he done before? is he a good artist?

[Specter313]

what has he done before? is he a good artist?
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[Manic]

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Putting aside the fact that his full name is almost as long as Panchito's from the Three Caballeros, I'm really digging Renato's art. He does realistic, cartoony, and knows how to do noir. Why is he only doing a handful of issues? This book needs a regular artist. Where'd Sook go?

[Kevin]

Sook Really Needs To Come Back. Love His Covers. Anyone Now Why His Left?

[Specter313]

His excuse was that he couldn't handle the schedule for doing a monthly book.

[El Bastardo]

His excuse was that he couldn't handle the schedule for doing a monthly book.

Just one monthly book? Y'know, that's kinda sad. Illnesses and other misfortunate events aside, there's no excuse for being unable to handle deadlines. Maybe he should practice getting work out faster, or find a new line of work. Heh.

[Manic]

For real. The man's not going to have much of a career in comic book art if he can't handle a monthly deadline for a single book.

[Colossal Spoons]

^I agree 100%

[Effect]

For real. The man's not going to have much of a career in comic book art if he can't handle a monthly deadline for a single book.

Perhaps art isn't his only job or even his main job.

[Darthphere]

X-Factor is the best title Marvel puts out. Also, Pablo Raimondi becomes regular X-Factor artists with #13. Raimondi did the art on the Madrox mini.

[mightiest_mortal]

X-Factor is the best title Marvel puts out. Also, Pablo Raimondi becomes regular X-Factor artists with #13. Raimondi did the art on the Madrox mini.
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETNESS!!!!! They shud have got him on from the start.

[Darthphere]

I agree, damn MM, havent seen you in ages. I really gotta come around here more often.

[Specter313]

X-Factor's new regular artist will be Pablo Raimondi as of issue #13.

Talking about that issue, Peter David said the issue fans most fondly remember from his original X-Factor series was issue #87, where Doc Samson psycho-analyzed each team member, which also happened to have art by Joe Quesada. Issue #13 is called "Re-Examinations" and as the title suggests, PAD said, "We're doing exactly the same, why the hell not?"
PAD also got the crowd cheering when he suggested Quesada create a variant cover for the issue.

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[Sun_Down]

X-Factor is the best title Marvel puts out. Also, Pablo Raimondi becomes regular X-Factor artists with #13. Raimondi did the art on the Madrox mini.

That's fantastic news, I loved the way he drew Jamie. Can't wait to see his take on the rest of the gang.

[mightiest_mortal]

That's fantastic news, I loved the way he drew Jamie. Can't wait to see his take on the rest of the gang.
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I agree, damn MM, havent seen you in ages. I really gotta come around here more often.
Gud 2 see u 2. I don't really post round here much either these days. its mostly the same discussions brought up again and again.. but then i guess I have been around here for over 5 years now.

[X_fan08]

Layla miller is creepy... well her story is. does anyone know what excatly is the it that will make her cease to exsist if she tells someone where she comes from? If im wrong please correct but not to arupt

[Darthphere]

She knew about the Decimation, thats pretty much it. If they somehow undo it, in theory shes gone as well.

[Darthphere]

As you can see Raimondi said hes changing up some of the costumes and give them more street level clothing.

[Charlie No-One]

Good, I think that is more suiting for them.

[Specter313]

Well, I rather liked what they've been wearing so far. At least Madrox's cool shirt is staying the same.

[Darthphere]

It makes more sense for the team than to be running around in superhero costumes, its not their thing. But I really had no problem either way, M looks hot as hell though.

[Manic]

Monet's Rolling Stones shirt is brilliant.

[Kevin]

Pablo Raimondi? that's awesome, hope he wont feel the pressure of a monthly.

[Sean Madrox]

I'm not a fan of the new artist really, I loved the way things were drawn before, it made the book different and stand out.

[Effect]

Gotta say I like the new costume changes. It actually makes sense I think. They aren't really an active superhero group but more of a detective agency so why not have their clothes reflect a more street apperance. I wouldn't have gone with a t-shirt for M though. Doesn't really seem her style and I would have gone for more of a blouse look instead though Siryn looks great.

[MoPlaYa]

I love X-Factor...its pisses me off that my comic shop sold out of issue 8 and 9 before i could get them...hopefully i`ll get the reprints...Can`t wait until issue 13

[Joaqenix]

Oh wow. I missed the Madrox mini, but I'm loving the new artist from that sample. The art thus far has been ok at best in my opinion. The costume changes were much needed as well. M and Siryn's costumes were too gaudy looking for a detective agency.

[Darthphere]

X-Factor #11 Preview. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8101)


Enjoy. :)

[squeekness]

wait no more....
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Gud 2 see u 2. I don't really post round here much either these days. its mostly the same discussions brought up again and again.. but then i guess I have been around here for over 5 years now.Awesomness. :D

[X_fan08]

thanks Darthphre

[Darthphere]

No problem. I became a big Roy fan after his work on Son of M.

[Specter313]

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X-Factor #10
32 full color pages
Written by: Peter David
Art by: Roy Allan Martinez
Release Date: August 30, 2006
Price: $2.99

Jamie Madrox must face the person responsible for one of the greatest tragedies in his life in X-Factor #10. The answers to all the mysteries since the first issue start here in the first part of "Multiple Disclosure."

X-Factor's rival Singularity Investigations has been a thorn in X-Factor's side since the beginning. But when Madrox learns of the connection he has to SI head Damian Tryp, it may spell the end for X-Factor Investigations.

Do not miss this three part epic beginning in X-Factor #10 as the mutant private investigators take on Singularity Investigations in a battle that has been brewing since the first issue. Warning: the last page will leave you on pins and needles all month.

- Marvel

[Xplicit Content]

I just jumped into this title. I've always been a fan of M and Madrox, so I figured I should give this title a shot. I bought the first 6 issues off eBay and this is a really good thing Marvel's got going...definately has a darker tone to it. It's a good alternative to the other X-Men titles.

[X_fan08]

what are m's powers? i know she is a telepath and fly but what else

[Specter313]

what are m's powers? i know she is a telepath and fly but what else

superhuman strength, speed, agility, endurance, reflexes and hearing, telescopic and night vision sight, invulnerability to all forms of physical damage, hyper-intuitive thought processes, telepathic powers that can be used for psionic communication or to paralyze and mind-wipe others, self-propelled flight

[X_fan08]

superhuman strength, speed, agility, endurance, reflexes and hearing, telescopic and night vision sight, invulnerability to all forms of physical damage, hyper-intuitive thought processes, telepathic powers that can be used for psionic communication or to paralyze and mind-wipe others, self-propelled flight

thanks 313.

[Xplicit Content]

M has the most random assortment of powers ever. I used to give myself headaches trying to find some relation between them all...and then I just gave up, heh.

[Manic]

M is basically a psychic Wonder Woman or Ms. Marvel.

[Specter313]

M has the most random assortment of powers ever. I used to give myself headaches trying to find some relation between them all...and then I just gave up, heh.

Lol. I think the best explaination I ever saw someone come up for with them is that with her "Little Miss Perfect" personality, she got some of the most popular powers around.

[X_fan08]

Lol. I think the best explaination I ever saw someone come up for with them is that with her "Little Miss Perfect" personality, she got some of the most popular powers around.

true. speaking of x-women, siyrn's powers are more complex than banshee, right?

[Manic]

true. speaking of x-women, siyrn's powers are more complex than banshee, right?
Yep. Banshee basically has high-powered screams, but Siryn can alter the frequency of her voice to do a lot of things.

[X_fan08]

Yep. Banshee basically has high-powered screams, but Siryn can alter the frequency of her voice to do a lot of things.

i read somethin about sound bubble to block sound from reaching the victim while she can talk without the person in the bubble knowing

[Specter313]

She can also alter her voice so that it acts like the Siren's of Greek mythology and make whoever she's talking to fall in love with her and do whatever she wants.

[Manic]

Yeah, she did that in an issue of Cable & Deadpool.

I think with a little more practice, Siryn could pick locks with her voice.

[Darthphere]

I love M in X-Factor.

[X_fan08]

Y. they way she is written or her powers

[Darthphere]

The way shes written. God I hate her, but I love her at the same time.

[hippy fascist]

Am I the only one who wishes they hadn't changed artist?:( The thing that drew me to x-factor was the art. Since they're a slightly shady detective agency the noir style and rough and ready nature of the work just seemed to really fit the tone of the book. The new art looks too polished, still keep buying it though cause the writing is soooo good right now! :)

[X_fan08]

art seems to be alot of reason why fans read comics. like endsong, i didnt car 4 the story, i just liked the art.

[Darthphere]

The writing rocks so no, and Pablo Raimondi is a great artisit. He really captures the nori feel in Madrox. He'll be fine.

[Xplicit Content]

RE: M, for a minute, I thought that they could reveal M's powers as being completely psionic in nature...I got the idea when I saw how she needed to touch that chick in order to do a deep telepathic scan...maybe the super strength and flight was really tactile telekinesis...she can lift and move heavy objects forcefully with her mind, but only by touching them (punching holes through walls, etc.)...flight coulda came as a result of her lifting herself with her mind. It would also explain the advanced intellect...just another aspect of her enhanced brain power. But then that wouldn't explain the enhanced vision and speed, etc., so there goes that idea.

But yeah, the "Miss Perfect" angle works too...that's really how I've always excused the assortment of random powers...she's just peak in every category, from brain power to physical abilities.

[The Watchman]

X-Factor is the best writing at Marvel right now...I was drawn in by the original creators David and Sook, but it's become something more for me now, sexually.

[Darthphere]

X-Factor is the best writing at Marvel right now...I was drawn in by the original creators David and Sook, but it's become something more for me now, sexually.


Explain this phenomenon.

[hippy fascist]

when a man and a woman love each other very much...

[Darthphere]

In this case it would be when a man and a comic book love each other very much..

[The Watchman]

Explain this phenomenon.

No interest in the characters or another X-book - not my bag - but Jesus H Christ did David make me want to **** the pages with my penis. :up:

[hippy fascist]

No interest in the characters or another X-book - not my bag - but Jesus H Christ did David make me want to **** the pages with my penis. :up:

ouch :eek: paper cuts

[Darthphere]

No interest in the characters or another X-book - not my bag - but Jesus H Christ did David make me want to **** the pages with my penis. :up:


I know the feeling.

[mightiest_mortal]

Am I the only one who wishes they hadn't changed artist?:( The thing that drew me to x-factor was the art. Since they're a slightly shady detective agency the noir style and rough and ready nature of the work just seemed to really fit the tone of the book. The new art looks too polished, still keep buying it though cause the writing is soooo good right now! :)
I wouldn't judge it too early before its seen. Pablo Raimondi was the Artist on the original Madrox series and set the whole noir feel for the art in this comic in the fist place. Check out the Art in the Madrox series and you'l know what i mean. I cant believe there are people loving X-Factor that still havnt read the initial Madrox series leading up to it? That series was a legend.

[Darthphere]

I agree, great series.

[hippy fascist]

I wouldn't judge it too early before its seen. Pablo Raimondi was the Artist on the original Madrox series and set the whole noir feel for the art in this comic in the fist place. Check out the Art in the Madrox series and you'l know what i mean. I cant believe there are people loving X-Factor that still havnt read the initial Madrox series leading up to it? That series was a legend.

available in trade?

[Specter313]

available in trade?

Yes. It's called Madrox: Multiple Choice.

[The Watchman]

...I jumped on X-Factor because of Sook being paired with David, though fully aware that it spawned out of the Madrox mini - so I tracked it down shortly after the series started and I was very impressed, a must read if you're into X-Factor. :up:

[MoPlaYa]

Pablo Raimondi did a great job on the Madrox mini series...and i`m sure will will do a great job on X-Factor....:)

[Specter313]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Nov06/XFACT013cov_col.jpg


X-FACTOR #13
Written by PETER DAVID
Pencils & Cover by PABLO RAIMONDI
Remember X-Factor #87? “X-Aminations,” the analysis issue? Sure you do. Everybody does. Well, Peter David and new regular artist Pablo Raimondi evoke memories of that classic tale with “Re-X-Aminations” as the new team unloads their hopes, fears and darkest secrets to an attentive Doc Samson. If anyone who read the previous series isn’t reading the current one, this is the issue to bring them on board.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

[JustABill]

I find it odd that the only thing I can get out of that awesome cover is...

''God, Rictor and Madrox would be so hot if they were real men." >_>

<_<.

[gothicFLAVOURS]

The only thing I don't like about that cover is the way they draw Rahne right now. I really liked Sook's art, I just hope he comes back eventually.

[squeekness]

I find it odd that the only thing I can get out of that awesome cover is...

''God, Rictor and Madrox would be so hot if they were real men." >_>

<_<.It's okay, you aren't the only one. ;)

[JustABill]

yay! :)

[Charlie No-One]

Too bad Rictor is gay then. At least he is rumored to be.

[mightiest_mortal]

Too bad Rictor is gay then. At least he is rumored to be.
LOL Havnt seen this discussion for a while. I think Rictors meant to be Straight. Shatterstar... now thats a different question.

[Specter313]

Too bad Rictor is gay then. At least he is rumored to be.

Saying that only makes Bill happier. :p

[hippy fascist]

anyone else think this book would make a really good tv show, just half an hour-45 mins once a week. Something about it says to me weekly tv show. Thoughts?

[masterj]

Yer it would amke a great show and it's not as if the special effects cost would be too high. Most of their powers would need little special effects. Also it's got the right amount of action, suspence, character development and humour for it to be a succesful show.

[usagicassidy]

Hell, it would make a good animated show. More adult animation is needed in America. I think casting real people could work, but animating it would be easier.

[Specter313]

Hell, it would make a good animated show. More adult animation is needed in America. I think casting real people could work, but animating it would be easier.

That's what ticks me off, is how so many people automatically think that since something is animated, it's a kiddie show. Get a clue people!

[Darthphere]

I probably would prefer a live action show, but animated would be fine.

[hippy fascist]

I was thinking live action my self, I mean in terms of special effects it's not gonna cost any more to produce than the first few seasons of buffy would have. It's the concept of the "detective show" that isn't entirely police orientated seems to have died out and with it's noirish style I think x-factor would plug that hole nicely.

All in all though I think i just miss diagnosis murder :(

[mightiest_mortal]

Latest issues cliffhanger.....


O M F G

[JustABill]

Oh my god....

Guido?! WTF?!

[hippy fascist]

for god's sake will someone start a bought thought thread over in the marvel forums..I need spoilers!!! :(

I live in england so we don't get our comics till tomorrow :( :( :(

[mightiest_mortal]

I live in england so we don't get our comics till tomorrow :( :( :(
I do :oldrazz: think its sumthing thats gotta be read :|

[spark627]

this was another great issue... the ending SHOCKED me

[Colossal Spoons]

I was waiting for some kind of shape-shifting at the end but......nuthin. :(

[Generation Lee]

So what to hit the spoiler tag as it was a bank holiday on Monday and I may not get the comic until tomorrow. I missed last months Civil War Tie in and now I need my fix.

[gothicFLAVOURS]

I didn't really like this issue but I was shocked with the cliffhanger at the end

[squeekness]

Poor Jamie...

He gets laid but it's never really him so the poor guy, what does he really get out of it? It's like that poor guy in Fight Club, his "other" gets it good and all he does is get just a taste. Unless he remembers it as if he was the one there, but it din't really seem like it to me.

[Darthphere]

Wouldnt Jamie absorb all those good feelings when he gets back the dupe?

[squeekness]

Wouldnt Jamie absorb all those good feelings when he gets back the dupe?You would hope so, but it wasn't really spelled out. Remembering something and actually feeling it and savoring it and enjoying it are not always the same thing. :)

[Darthphere]

Poor guy, hes gonna have to deal with the reprecussions now.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, "savoring it".

[Darthphere]

I wonder if Theresa will ever actually come to the realization that Banshee is indeed dead.

[squeekness]

Maybe, given enough time. When's she's had time to grieve. :)

[Darthphere]

So lets say if a relationship indeed comes out of this what would you guys prefer? M or Theresa?

[JustABill]

Theresa. As much as I like M. I think Siryn fits Jamie more.

[Specter313]

Yeah, M's not really the type I think that would work with Jamie's personality. Well, his main one that is.

And man, I did not see that ending coming.

[Manic]

Um... wow. We know that Jamie's dupes can have different personalities from him, right? So was it the dupe with a different personality that slept with Monet, or the main Jamie's personality? Ooooh, the mind boggles.

Also, what was Rahne doing last night?

[The Watchman]

So lets say if a relationship indeed comes out of this what would you guys prefer? M or Theresa?

Why chose?

[Manic]

Why chose?
Exactly. Jamie doesn't have to be a one-woman man if he himself isn't just one man.

[Darthphere]

Why chose?


I like the way you think.

[squeekness]

Um... wow. We know that Jamie's dupes can have different personalities from him, right? So was it the dupe with a different personality that slept with Monet, or the main Jamie's personality? Ooooh, the mind boggles.

Also, what was Rahne doing last night?It wasn't his main personality. He didn't realize what went on until he reabsorbed the dupes. Poor shmuck. :p

[MoPlaYa]

I just got issue 10 and its a decent issue....the ending was crazy...

[rjb182]

I just picked this one up for the first time today. Madrox, Rahne, and Monet are all characters I like a lot, and I finally decided to bite the bullet and give it a try.

Pretty interesting. Now I sorta want to go back and pick up the rest of the series. The ending was quite a surprise. And I believe Jamie's plotline actually managed to make me jealous of a fictional character. Sad, eh? ;)

For the record, if a relationship came out of it-- and I sort of doubt one will-- I think Theresa's the better option. She sort of had a thing with a Madrox before, as opposed to Monet, who is-- well, pretty much a total opposite and unlikely to take kindly to the idea that she was, erm, duped by a dupe.

Just my thoughts.

[mightiest_mortal]

Hmm.. now interestingly, we know a Dupe was with Theresa, but Jamie seemed to remember about M before he absorbed another dupe. Unless the dupe he absorbed had already absorbed the other dupe, theres a good chance it was the real Jamie with M.

[Specter313]

Hmm.. now interestingly, we know a Dupe was with Theresa, but Jamie seemed to remember about M before he absorbed another dupe. Unless the dupe he absorbed had already absorbed the other dupe, theres a good chance it was the real Jamie with M.

Or the dupe finished up with one before moving on to the other.

[Darthphere]

Jamie you dog.

[Wolverazio]

Or the dupe finished up with one before moving on to the other.

That was the implication I got.

[MoPlaYa]

Madrox would be perfect for a girl who likes gangbangs...lol