View Full Version : Is Punisher in Rykers prison??
kainedamo
05-09-2006, 07:52 PM
I haven't been reading Daredevil, but I heard that in the DD books, Punisher is in prison. What's he doing there? How's he interacted with Matt? Punisher is a non stop killing machine, and that doesn't stop if he's in prison.
The Question
05-09-2006, 07:59 PM
Basically, the Punisher read that Matt;s in prison, so he got himself arrested to help him out.
kainedamo
05-09-2006, 08:02 PM
But he hates Matt's guts, and Matt hates him too. There is no way Punisher could resist killing a few criminals, and there is no way Matt would let him.
TheCorpulent1
05-09-2006, 08:07 PM
They have a mutual respect, I suppose. Or maybe the Punisher just thought it'd be fun to have Mattie owe him one.
Question for those reading DD: Does the Punisher still look like he's pushing 60 in the comic, or have they retconned him down to a younger age now that he's getting reintegrated into the mainstream Marvel universe?
PWN3R
05-09-2006, 08:10 PM
Frank got put in prison cuz he killed a girl named Vicki kainedamo ...;)
Kool-Aid
05-09-2006, 08:25 PM
They have a mutual respect, I suppose. Or maybe the Punisher just thought it'd be fun to have Mattie owe him one.
Question for those reading DD: Does the Punisher still look like he's pushing 60 in the comic, or have they retconned him down to a younger age now that he's getting reintegrated into the mainstream Marvel universe?
He looks about mid to late 30s. Kinda like Bruce Wayne looks.
Nasty-B
05-09-2006, 08:27 PM
They have a mutual respect, I suppose. Or maybe the Punisher just thought it'd be fun to have Mattie owe him one.
Question for those reading DD: Does the Punisher still look like he's pushing 60 in the comic, or have they retconned him down to a younger age now that he's getting reintegrated into the mainstream Marvel universe?
MAX Punisher looks like Clint Eastwood's slightly younger brother. But regular 616 Punnie looks like he's in his early-mid 40's, same as he did in 1974.
Kool-Aid
05-09-2006, 08:28 PM
I haven't been reading Daredevil, but I heard that in the DD books, Punisher is in prison. What's he doing there? How's he interacted with Matt? Punisher is a non stop killing machine, and that doesn't stop if he's in prison.
Are you thinking of Punisher the Cell(awesome one shot)? I only skimmed through the last issue of Punisher and he wasn't.
The Question
05-09-2006, 08:29 PM
But he hates Matt's guts, and Matt hates him too. There is no way Punisher could resist killing a few criminals, and there is no way Matt would let him.
I think he doesn't hate him enough to let him get killed in prison.
Question for those reading DD: Does the Punisher still look like he's pushing 60 in the comic, or have they retconned him down to a younger age now that he's getting reintegrated into the mainstream Marvel universe?
He looks in his late 30s/early 40s the way he was drawn in Daredevil, but that could just be the artist. He may just be dying his hair if he's turning grey.
IT sounds like Punisher is coming back with a vengeance during Civil War judging from Axel's interview @ wordballoon.
TheCorpulent1
05-09-2006, 09:47 PM
He wasn't going gray in MAX, he just had wrinkles galore. I guess they're throwing out the idea that Frank fought in Vietnam no matter what age that makes him after all.
Anubis
05-09-2006, 10:18 PM
I'm not conviced Castles going in there to "Help" Murdock at all. We don't really know what he's gonna do until he actually does it.
Hopefully Frank isn't out to beat up Matt because I think it's time we actually saw the 2 helping each other out or fighting side by side.
Anubis
05-09-2006, 10:36 PM
One things for sure, I don't think Matt will immediately trust him.
iambilly81
05-09-2006, 10:40 PM
anyone got any scans of this, i havent picked up a daredevil book in a while. lost interest.
Anubis
05-09-2006, 10:41 PM
You should try out Brubakers run. It's been great. Started with issue 82 and is three issue in.
Vanguard07
05-09-2006, 11:09 PM
Normally Punisher and DD dont get along but Mattie's been acting a little more hard-core than usual lately after what happened to foggy. If ever there was a good time for an effective team up for the two it'd be in this arc.
rigel7soldiers
05-09-2006, 11:13 PM
I remember, Jasper Stillwell, or whoever, said Frank was in Ryker's (in Secret War #1) to get Killer Shrike to strike up a deal. Weird how that worked out.
I'm not sure if Frank would kill anyone on the inside; Generally he goes for those whom he catches in the act, or is absolutely certain is guilty- Just because they're in prison doesn't mean they did anything.
TheCorpulent1
05-09-2006, 11:17 PM
Normally Punisher and DD dont get along but Mattie's been acting a little more hard-core than usual lately after what happened to foggy. If ever there was a good time for an effective team up for the two it'd be in this arc.
Has Matt killed anyone yet? I don't think he'd be able to work with the Punisher if he couldn't sit by and watch someone get outright murdered. That's always been the fundamental rift between them.
rigel7soldiers
05-09-2006, 11:19 PM
Has Matt killed anyone yet? I don't think he'd be able to work with the Punisher if he couldn't sit by and watch someone get outright murdered. That's always been the fundamental rift between them.
He killed the DD imposter in Reborn, or whatever that arc was called. You know, right before he encountered Nuke.
Anubis
05-09-2006, 11:19 PM
I remember, Jasper Stillwell, or whoever, said Frank was in Ryker's (in Secret War #1) to get Killer Shrike to strike up a deal. Weird how that worked out.
I'm not sure if Frank would kill anyone on the inside; Generally he goes for those whom he catches in the act, or is absolutely certain is guilty- Just because they're in prison doesn't mean they did anything.
Everytime he's been in prison that i've seen he's killed. A lot of people. Mostly because they were trying to kill him. Sometimes because they deserved more than what they were in there for.
TheCorpulent1
05-09-2006, 11:27 PM
He killed the DD imposter in Reborn, or whatever that arc was called. You know, right before he encountered Nuke.
I think it was Born Again. I don't know, maybe DD would be prepared to work with Frank this time out.
Vanguard07
05-09-2006, 11:47 PM
Has Matt killed anyone yet? I don't think he'd be able to work with the Punisher if he couldn't sit by and watch someone get outright murdered. That's always been the fundamental rift between them.
He hasnt killed anyone yet. And i dont think he's prepared to personally cross that line. But i could see him letting Frank go to work now. Like i said he's been acting more brutal lately.
owenstar
05-10-2006, 01:15 AM
I cant speak on the art on these issues...cause I hate team ups...if the boys back at my site say it pans out I will
As for the MAX, before the current arc Frank looked like a dude who had been in NAM...this arc...well dont ask, because the art is terrible...Castle has spikey hair...its retarded
The pre-art I have seen for the new War Journal series has him looking younger like others have suggested...late 30's early 40's...heading back into the mainstream, I am sure a younger more fit Punisher is needed to keep up with the super-powered
Marcdachamp
05-10-2006, 01:57 AM
They have a mutual respect, I suppose. Or maybe the Punisher just thought it'd be fun to have Mattie owe him one.
Question for those reading DD: Does the Punisher still look like he's pushing 60 in the comic, or have they retconned him down to a younger age now that he's getting reintegrated into the mainstream Marvel universe?
Corp, you aren't reading this? Man, you're losing all kinds of respect over here...:down
CantThinkOfAName
05-10-2006, 03:14 AM
Basically, the Punisher read that Matt;s in prison, so he got himself arrested to help him out.
I dont think hes gonna be helping DD out:o:
Whatever happens, itll be crazy as ****:up:
CantThinkOfAName
05-10-2006, 03:14 AM
Has Matt killed anyone yet? I don't think he'd be able to work with the Punisher if he couldn't sit by and watch someone get outright murdered. That's always been the fundamental rift between them.
He killed the people who murdered his father.
Hell, they even brought it up in this current arc.
CantThinkOfAName
05-10-2006, 03:20 AM
I cant speak on the art on these issues...cause I hate team ups...if the boys back at my site say it pans out I will
Its not a team-up. I dont know why people are assuming DD and Punisher are going to team up in prison.
Lackey
05-10-2006, 03:32 AM
Corp, you aren't reading this? Man, you're losing all kinds of respect over here...:down
Corp doesn't like DD...sad that he likes Punisher more :(
CantThinkOfAName
05-10-2006, 04:58 AM
Corp doesn't like DD...sad that he likes Punisher more :(
oh my god...so embarrasing:o:(
gildea
05-10-2006, 07:17 AM
He hasnt killed anyone yet.
Yes he has in born again and in man without fear.
demento
05-10-2006, 08:21 AM
I would think he wants to get into Rykers to take out the Kingpin now that he's out of solitary and back in gen pop. Then there's the Owl (who's probably still convalescing from the beating Matt gave him), Hammerhead, Bullseye, and who knows who else. It's a virtual smorgasbord for Frank.
TheCorpulent1
05-10-2006, 10:05 AM
Corp, you aren't reading this? Man, you're losing all kinds of respect over here...:down
That's nice, but I've never liked Daredevil. I tried his comic during several runs that people consider his best ever and I've never really gotten into it.
Corp doesn't like DD...sad that he likes Punisher more
Ennis' Punisher is pure gold and you know it. :p
Horrorfan
05-10-2006, 11:06 AM
Corp doesn't like DD...sad that he likes Punisher more :(
Punisher PWNS DD :up:
All I'm saying is that it would be lame if Punisher is there to go after DD again because Punisher VS DD is very played out.I'm trusting Brubaker to execute it properly though.
Mr. Green
05-10-2006, 01:22 PM
Anyone who has read Punisher: the Cell, knows that Frank has already pulled this exact "arrest me so I can **** people up in jail" thing.
Brubaker has done a hell of a job so far, but I hope, and expect, him to do something way different than has already been done.
For those who haven't read "The Cell", read it. NOW.
owenstar
05-10-2006, 02:52 PM
Its not a team-up. I dont know why people are assuming DD and Punisher are going to team up in prison.
team up...crossover...whatever you wanna call stealing money from fans...
UK_Stu
05-11-2006, 11:12 AM
team up...crossover...whatever you wanna call stealing money from fans...
I'm pretty sure Matt and Frank won't be teaming up. They really don't like each other. Plus I doubt the Punisher is after Matt, Matt would kick his ass in prison
Horrorfan
05-11-2006, 11:52 AM
I'm pretty sure Matt and Frank won't be teaming up. They really don't like each other. Plus I doubt the Punisher is after Matt, Matt would kick his ass in prison
If Punisher was after Matt, he would have a plan...he's not stupid. Like when he knew Matt would show up to try and save that gangster p.o.s in 'welcome back frank'.... He wouldn't go after him head on with no plan.
Roughneck
05-11-2006, 03:11 PM
Punny's gone to prison a few times. Cause there he can kill anyone and everyone
deemar325
05-11-2006, 03:46 PM
I'm pretty sure Matt and Frank won't be teaming up. They really don't like each other. Plus I doubt the Punisher is after Matt, Matt would kick his ass in prison
I don't think so.
owenstar
05-11-2006, 04:44 PM
, Matt would kick his ass in prison
Thats what everyone has said...but for some reason the guy is still kicking around a free man...no matter how super powered they are...no matter how much ti-kwon-jujitsu they know...Castle finds a way to win
Assassin
05-11-2006, 06:29 PM
what issue did this arc start with i may have to get it
Ookami_Wolf1
05-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Frank realises how important it is to have Matt running around as Daredevil. His going into Rykers allows him to protect Matt's image (whether Matt likes it or not), and allows Matt to downplay his connection to being Daredevil especially with the imposter running around doing his Superhero Job on the outside.
There's obviously going to be hostility and friction when Matt and Frank meet in prison.Team up or Frank trying to kill DD,which seems highly unprobable,Bru will probably find a reason for things to fit.
I wonder if this somehow leads into Punisher's new series.
Anubis
05-11-2006, 09:35 PM
what issue did this arc start with i may have to get it
Issue 82
Purple Man
05-11-2006, 09:41 PM
Punisher can do so much damage in jail.
He was the one that tipped off Bullseye about Elektra replacing him as the Kingpins head assassin. Bullseye asked why Frank would be giving him info, and he said because he knew that he would do something stupid.
Which he did, he escaped from prison, killed Elektra and then got paralyzed.
I also love the animosity between DD and Punisher. Like that time Frank tied up Matt, strapped a gun to his hand and told DD to kill him if he didn't want Frank to kill a guy. DD pulls the trigger but the gun is empty. Punisher kills the guy and gets the satisfaction of almost making horn head kill somebody.
Joker
05-12-2006, 04:03 AM
the gun wasnt empty, it just didnt have the firing pin in it :o
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