I really wanted to like this film, but...

[neelyohara]

I just dont.


The plot is highly derivative and formulatic.




Discuss.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

This is just a response to my thread, with that being the case and the lack of originality... I choose not to discuss at this moment.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

You could have just made another "Hey I bet I'm saying this for the first time, I don't like the kid and..." blah blah.... thread

[BrollySupersj]

Wow...rip off in true form...


OUCH!!!

[Matt]

This is just a response to my thread, with that being the case and the lack of originality... I choose not to discuss at this moment.

I think he's trying to prove the point that people who praised you will attack him for essentially the same thread with a different opinion.

[neelyohara]

I think he's trying to prove the point that people who praised you will attack him for essentially the same thread with a different opinion.

Once again, you hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. I dont like the direction this movie is going in, and I'm sure others disagree. Im just trying to put some Baileys in the same old coffee.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I think he's trying to prove the point that people who praised you will attack him for essentially the same thread with a different opinion.

It's not the same thread though. It's just taking my title and saying "discuss"

I would not have obvjected to him saying "I dislike this movie, here is why" then in the post outline the reasons. Or he could have made a joke like "What I like about this movie..." and then had a spoiler that read "I like that I won't be seeing it"

It's all in originality my friend :)

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Once again, you hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. I dont like the direction this movie is going in, and I'm sure others disagree. Im just trying to put some Baileys in the same old coffee.

You think mimicking my thread as well as posts is really proving a point?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

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I'm so sad... I wanted to like this film. But do you know what I think after seeing the recent footage from the trailer and new documentary?

I am going to LOVE it!!!! That means I'll be going broke from frequent IMAX viewings, various collectors merchandise, the x-box 360 game, and the DVD that will eventually come out. I will be broke because of Singer DAMN YOU SINGER!!!!!!!!!---

[\S/JcDc\S/]

They are now chasing me with pitchforks and flamethrowers... I may have to seek the witness relocation program :o I figured we have had enough threads where somebody comes in and says "I'm sure this has been mentioned before..." or "I'm scared of some of the plot elements..." blah blah, if you are that scared get out of the SR forum. I'm just trying to put a little Bailey's in the otherwise old and boring coffee that's been sitting in the same damn spot for months.

He even copied my coffee comment. Here is the original (which I made up that Bailey's quip thank you)

[Kane]

JC. You need to sue!

[BrollySupersj]

Don't we already have a civil thread for people who don't like the film?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

JC. You need to sue!

Damn straight :mad:

:(

He used my Bailey's joke :(

He shall pay :mad:



























:D

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Don't we already have a civil thread for people who don't like the film?

We do. But he didn't make this thread in order to discuss why he dislikes SR (which he couldn't have seen). He made it to take a jab at me. I demand royalties for his use of my Bailey's joke :mad: !!

[neelyohara]

Don't we already have a civil thread for people who don't like the film?

Who says that dissatisfaction with this movie has to be designated and limited to one thread? Support for this movie surely isn't. So why is this thread any less warranted then JCDC's?

[Agnarr]

Whoa, I thought I was seeing double for a second. I was like, "wtf?" Haha. Um.

I'm sorry you don't like the film and the direction its going in. I have -some- reservations, but am trying to view the film as an entity unto itself so I don't get bogged down in the details.

It's like AvP. Read the graphic novels, the books, watched the first two movies that I loved . . . and then that garbage with Paul Anderson directing comes and rips my heart out.

It's not pleasant to see something you like perverted or done poorly in your own eyes. It hurts. And it REALLY hurts when you are the minority that's upset. You refer to the source material and tell everyone its all wrong. No one really cares because they were entertained for an hour or so.

But that's life. For once I'm really pleased with where a movie is going with the most important superhero that I've known since I could read. Why? I don't know. I just like what I see, just like you don't. I get what I want, you don't. I'm sorry to say that I got my wish: when I was watching X2, I loved the opening sequence and the fight between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike. And I wished that Singer could direct the next superman movie. I **** you not. So if you want to blame someone, blame me. :O

Perhaps in another twenty years we'll see something more to your liking, but until then, you'll just have to go along with what you get, unless you could actually make a Superman film yourself. I wouldn't mind seeing many, many interpretations--then you can pick your superman for your mood.

My two cents.

[The Kid]

what is there to discuss?

[neelyohara]

We do. But he didn't make this thread in order to discuss why he dislikes SR (which he couldn't have seen). He made it to take a jab at me. I demand royalties for his use of my Bailey's joke :mad: !!

It's not a jab at you, personally, brother. I just dont see why a thread like yours is any different or "worthy" from a thread thats essentially the same but with a differnet opinion.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Who says that dissatisfaction with this movie has to be designated and limited to one thread? Support for this movie surely isn't. So why is this thread any less warranted then JCDC's?

Cause my parody is funny and yours sucks? :)

[Kane]

what is there to discuss?

Exactly. The film isnt even out yet.


Thats prolly the reason why they should just limit the complaint threads to one thread.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

It's not a jab at you, personally, brother. I just dont see why a thread like yours is any different or "worthy" from a thread thats essentially the same but with a differnet opinion.

Mine is different. It's a joke aimed at BOTH sides. Those that expected it to be a bash SR thread and were ready to kill me, were in no simpler word... HAD. :) Those that were in support of the same old "why I don't like this movie" thread, were also duped. It basically screwed everyone. Gotta love it :D

[neelyohara]

Cause my parody is funny and yours sucks? :)

Who says i'm trying to parody your sentiments? Im just stating an opinion thats counter-active to yours.


Yes, the film has not been released yet, which is why there is room for speculation, negative or positive.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Who says i'm trying to parody your sentiments? Im just stating an opinion thats counter-active to yours.


Yes, the film has not been released yet, which is why there is room for speculation, negative or positive.


You use the exact same thread title. Then in one of your posts you copy my Bailey's coffee joke from the OT.

[neelyohara]

...and?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Ya know if you click on the first page of my thread, you'd see that BOTH sides were messed with, and for the most part it was taken with good humor. Which was the point.

[BrollySupersj]

Who says that dissatisfaction with this movie has to be designated and limited to one thread? Support for this movie surely isn't. So why is this thread any less warranted then JCDC's?

The point is, WE ALREADY HAVE ONE with like a bunch of pages. GO chat it up there, no need to create another thread.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

...and?

and...

parody is a form of satire that imitates another work of art in order to ridicule it.

[neelyohara]

Ya know if you click on the first page of my thread, you'd see that BOTH sides were messed with, and for the most part it was taken with good humor. Which was the point.


Really? From my point of view, it was a bunch of people agreeing with you that a movie, as has been reiforced by several posters, none of us has seen yet, will be awsome. It served no purpose as to meaningful debate, which is what these forums are for. As it seems that kind of thread is tolerated around here, I do not undertstand why one like mine would not be. I do not like what I have seen from this movie so far. What do you all think?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Really? From my point of view, it was a bunch of people agreeing with you that a movie, as has been reiforced by several posters, none of us has seen yet, will be awsome. It served no purpose as to meaningful debate, which is what these forums are for. As it seems that kind of thread is tolerated around here, I do not undertstand why one like mine would not be. I do not like what I have seen from this movie so far. What do you all think?


My thread was clearly a joke based on misdirection. People were tricked, had a good laugh.

Your thread just sucks. You just use the same title and tell people to "discuss"

No joke, no originality, just crap. Pure crap.

[Showtime]

Really? From my point of view, it was a bunch of people agreeing with you that a movie, as has been reiforced by several posters, none of us has seen yet, will be awsome. It served no purpose as to meaningful debate, which is what these forums are for. As it seems that kind of thread is tolerated around here, I do not undertstand why one like mine would not be. I do not like what I have seen from this movie so far. What do you all think?

If you don't like what you have seen from this movie so far than it could go one of two ways, you could see the movie and love it, or the movie might only solidify your previous opinions. This works for those who think the movie looks good so far as well.

[The Kid]

Looks like it'll be a fun adventure, with good humor and excellent fx to me.

[neelyohara]

My thread was clearly a joke based on misdirection. People were tricked, had a good laugh.

Your thread just sucks. You just use the same title and tell people to "discuss"

No joke, no originality, just crap. Pure crap.


This is, in essence, flaming and trolling and as Matt has pointed out, it is also a double standard.

What does a joke based on misdirection have to do with SR? Why is your asinine thoughts any more entitled then my IDENTICLE asinine thoughts? If the mods feel the need to close this thread then so be it, but to me its just "leveling the playing field".

[Showtime]

This is, in essence, flaming and trolling and as Matt has pointed out, it is also a double standard.

What does a joke based on misdirection have to do with SR? Why is your asinine thoughts any more entitled then my IDENTICLE asinine thoughts? If the mods feel the need to close this thread then so be it, but to me its just "leveling the playing field".

Whose MATT?

All are thoughts are "asinine" we are on a Superman Returns board debating whether or not a movie is going to be good based on photos, set reports, and trailers. You do the math.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

This is, in essence, flaming and trolling and as Matt has pointed out, it is also a double standard.

What does a joke based on misdirection have to do with SR? Why is your asinine thoughts any more entitled then my IDENTICLE asinine thoughts? If the mods feel the need to close this thread then so be it, but to me its just "leveling the playing field".

Identicle or testicle? What are you trying to say :eek:

Anyways, there is no playing field to level. You took it to serious like a pansy. You don't like the film? Ok then. Talk about it one of the other threads

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230340

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230135&page=3

My joke was a good one whether you like the movie or not. You didn't make this thread for a joke, you made it cause you can't TAKE a joke. It's unoriginal, it's crap... oh and did I say it's crap? :rolleyes:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Whose MATT?

All are thoughts are "asinine" we are on a Superman Returns board debating whether or not a movie is going to be good based on photos, set reports, and trailers. You do the math.


Yeah pretty condescending. His view is that we should be able to have threads that discuss disliking the movie, which we have... Yet he gets pissed about a JOKE I made that was poking fun at the assumptions both sides can make. He's clueless.

[neelyohara]

What if I had made a good joke based on mis-direction but with a different sentiment? There is a double-standard in expressing ones opinion to SR. My thread is identical to yours for a reason. It seems as if those who do not like the direction this movie is heading in get braned as "trolls", while you get praised for having an opposite opinion.

[neelyohara]

Yeah pretty condescending. His view is that we should be able to have threads that discuss disliking the movie, which we have... Yet he gets pissed about a JOKE I made that was poking fun at the assumptions both sides can make. He's clueless.

I'm not getting pissed about a joke. Just pointing out the double standard that exists within this community and seeing how people would react to it.

BTW: This is petty namecalling and the stuff I think would rightfully get people branded as "trolls"

[\S/JcDc\S/]

What if I had made a good joke based on mis-direction but with a different sentiment? There is a double-standard in expressing ones opinion to SR.
Well you should have tried that then... But you didn't. Based off of Matt forming the rhetorical question of "What would happen if this thread were the opposite" you not only copied my thread, but you simply copied what was pointed out by another poster. Your unoriginality is all that astounds me, my friend.

[neelyohara]

Well you should have tried that then... But you didn't. Based off of Matt forming the rhetorical question of "What would happen if this thread were the opposite" you not only copied my thread, but you simply copied what was pointed out by another poster. Your unoriginality is all that astounds me, my friend.

Really, elaborating on a theme is unorginiality? By that logic, only one person would be allowed to say "I like Superman Returns" and the rest would be unorginial?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Really, elaborating on a theme is unorginiality? By that logic, only one person would be allowed to say "I like Superman Returns" and the rest would be unorginial?

YOU DIDN'T ELABORATE ON ANYTHING. You copied the original thread title and then said "discuss"

That's elaborating???

No way, you will not convince me other wise. It was cheap, the thought it took to make that up could have been conceived by a monkey.

[Showtime]

Let the Mods decide if this is relevant or not. It is only our choice whether we post in it or not.

[neelyohara]

YOU DIDN'T ELABORATE ON ANYTHING. You copied the original thread title and then said "discuss"

That's elaborating???

No way, you will not convince me other wise. It was cheap, the thought it took to make that up could have been conceived by a monkey.


I believe I have surely have elaborated more on this theme by my multiple posts.

[neelyohara]

Let the Mods decide if this is relevant or not. It is only our choice whether we post in it or not.

Thats my point, the Mods have to consider this relevent if it deemed JCDC's post relevent. If they are going to close this thread they should close the other.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

You know what? If it makes you happy, they can close my f'in joke thread. Take away whatever light hearted fun was put on here. Let's keep this an unfriendly piss off your neighbor place. I'm out.

Close my other thread, make them happy. I don't care.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Thats my point, the Mods have to consider this relevent if it deemed JCDC's post relevent. If they are going to close this thread they should close the other.


Close them both down, whatever dude... It's not about SR at this point for you anyways...

[neelyohara]

You know what? If it makes you happy, they can close my f'in joke thread. Take away whatever light hearted fun was put on here. Let's keep this an unfriendly piss off your neighbor place. I'm out.

Close my other thread, make them happy. I don't care.

Dude, i'm not trying to piss you off. I want to see if these two threads can co-exist peacefully and if not I would like to know why.

[Showtime]

Thats my point, the Mods have to consider this relevent if it deemed JCDC's post relevent. If they are going to close this thread they should close the other.

It is also their choice to decide what is allowed and what isn't in regards to repetative threads. It seems that you believe only positive threads are allowed to stay open, how does that have anything to do with JCDC or any other poster. We don't wear RED.

[Showtime]

Dude, i'm not trying to piss you off. I want to see if these two threads can co-exist peacefully and if not I would like to know why.

Make sure your conclusion fits your hypothesis when you put your report on Matt's desk tomorrow morning. :O

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Dude, i'm not trying to piss you off. I want to see if these two threads can co-exist peacefully and if not I would like to know why.

I don't want them to co-exist. Shut mine down. I'd rather it not be up at all than have you parading a mimick of it at the same time.

[neelyohara]

It is also there choice to decide what is allowed and what isn't in regards to repetative threads. It seems that you believe only positive threads are allowed to stay open, how does that have anything to do with JCDC or any other poster. We don't wear RED.

Again, I didn't say it did. Which is why I don't think he should be getting so upset. If this thread is closed, I would at least like for the point to made and possibly taken into consideration. This may not be exactly relevent to SR at this point, but niether are a lot of posts, including JCDC's. I did not know where else I could make this point

[\S/JcDc\S/]

It is also their choice to decide what is allowed and what isn't in regards to repetative threads. It seems that you believe only positive threads are allowed to stay open, how does that have anything to do with JCDC or any other poster. We don't wear RED.

That's the funny thing, I'm the one who made the friggin OT. I don't go to mods complaining about trolling when a negative thread is made. So for him to use me as an example when I don't do that stuff is utterly ridiculous.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Again, I didn't say it did. Which is why I don't think he should be getting so upset. If this thread is closed, I would at least like for the point to made and possibly taken into consideration. This may not be exactly relevent to SR at this point, but niether are a lot of posts, including JCDS's. I did not know where else I could make this point


You know what? I will tell them to close my thread just for you, and you can have this one open. Whatever floats your boat.

[neelyohara]

You know what? I will tell them to close my thread just for you, and you can have this one open. Whatever floats your boat.


lol, as I've stated, thats not what would "float my boat"

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Here ya go

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230701&page=2

As you can see I requested it to be closed.

K?

[neelyohara]

Your not listening. I dont want it to be closed. But niether should mine be.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Your not listening. I dont want it to be closed. But niether should mine be.


With your "thread" copying me word for word, I'd rather mine be closed that co-exist with yours.

Had you made a "I dislike this film because..." and explained it that would have been fine. Instead you chose to copy. Eh, not my cup of tea. Read the first page of my thread, everyone was had... Got tricked... Had fun with it. Your thread was no fun, it was just more arguing. All of what this forum has been about lately, argue argue, complain, whine... BLECH

Just close my thread.

[The Kid]

I want you people's opinon on this. Should I make a thread made solely for "Likes and dislikes" where every poster, rather than argue with each other over subjective stuff, posts their own Likes and dislikes in the same post in this format:

Likes:

Bla bla bla etc.

Dislikes:

Bla bla bla etc.

I think that'd be more balanced and decrease all the "hater" "fanboy" "singerboy" namecalling garbage since their thoughts aren't always negative or always postive. Would that work?

[Ita-KalEl]

I think that if you like Superman :The Movie, you'll love Superman Returns :up:

Probably the comics fans will be split in two (but, I'm sure that the most part willl still love it.
And what about Smallville fans? IMO they'll dislike it...

[GothicPowerMix1]

A) Copy Catter

B) http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2896/supermanreturns0494xf.jpg


Enough Said

[skruloos]

You know, if the original poster really wanted to make a post similar to JC's, it would have worked much more if he worked within the same frame of misdirection. Instead of "I really wanted to like this film" just go with the "I really wanted to hate this film" and follow the thread to the same conclusion.

[BareKnucklez]

You know im not 100% sold on this movie but I want to see it for if anything this scene alone...


http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/albums/Film/Superman%20Returns/TV%20Spots/Documentary/Docu_006.jpg

The scene looks great from that shot! :)

[gdw]

I just dont.


The plot is highly derivative and formulatic.




Discuss.


No, it's not. Discussion done :D

[The Kid]

:) Damn I can't see any holes in that argument. You win. :up: Hooray!

[Bad Superman]

Brilliant! :D :mad: :D :D










:mad:

[Matt]

Mine is different. It's a joke aimed at BOTH sides. Those that expected it to be a bash SR thread and were ready to kill me, were in no simpler word... HAD. :) Those that were in support of the same old "why I don't like this movie" thread, were also duped. It basically screwed everyone. Gotta love it :D

I still fail to see how yours is aimed at both sides. Were you to say something like "If you don't agree, you're just a stupid hater"...yea...but its clearly not.

[C. Lee]

Here's a funny story for you....

Once upon a time....a poster made a thread about a certain subject......AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED WHAT THE THREAD WAS ABOUT!!!!


Isn't that hilarious?

[Showtime]

Here's a funny story for you....

Once upon a time....a poster made a thread about a certain subject......AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED WHAT THE THREAD WAS ABOUT!!!!


Isn't that hilarious?

I love that story.

[CConn]

How is the plot derivative and formulatic?

I had the lead in my school play of that story.

[Showtime]

How is the plot derivative and formulatic?

I had the lead in my school play of that story.

I was in charge of curtains. :O

[CConn]

They were lovely. You're a magican with wool.

[Showtime]

They were lovely. You're a magican with wool.

My many years living among the Amish helped me through it.