Super Smash Bros. Brawl--Wii Exclusive!

[Super Kal]

i honestly don't care what people say, I still would LOVE to see a character creator

[Mr. Marko]

Hmm...Classic Mode...I love when you get updates that you knew were going to be in the game...my favorite...

Coins will probably be like in Melee. But Mario got a crap load in that pic. Maybe there are other things too...I'm not sure what...

[Super_Hero]

Classic mode is Ok, we all knew it was in it.

And i think miis should be a assist trophy of some sort.

[terry78]

I agree with the lack of character creation. I don't want mother****ers creating extremely powerful characters and just whooping everyone online because of that.

[Super_Hero]

That is why it would be so lame, making some insanly strong characters.

[Super Kal]

I can see how some people wouldn't like having a custom character feature... and I agree with some of the points, like having a character as small as Kirby doing 300% damage in one hit.

That's why I would like to see it as a more realistic character creator... the size of your character will determine what moves are available to you, how fast you can go, your rate of speed in the air, etc...

I don't want to see an all-out character creator function that allows you to make a character high on God Mode...

[TheCorpulent1]

Still, anytime you put that sort of power in players' hands, some of them are going to find ways to abuse it. Besides, the whole point of Smash is to pit familiar characters from familiar franchises against each other.

[Mr. Marko]

I agree. I don't think we'll need to worry about that though. The closest thing we're going to have to a character creator is the Miis, and that isn't even for sure. Assist trophy could be cool, but I think a playable character would be better.

[Super Kal]

well, I disagree, but that's just me.

I love character customization

[TheCorpulent1]

It's fine in games that are built for it. I don't think Smash is, though. At all.

[Nirvana]

I always kind of wanted Skull Kid and Banjo Kazooie as playable characters...Oh well, maybe next time.

[Telekinetic]

lame update today.

[cookiva]

For character creation, just have 100 points to put into various places, ala sports games. In Madden, you cant make a running back who is huge, fast, and agile without hurting other various stats.

For example, you could have a bruising character, like DK, but he doesnt have the ranged attacks like Samus.

[JustABill]

It still would defeat the entire purpose of Smash. Getting familiar characters like Mario, Link, Sonic, Samus, Kirby, Pikachu, etc. and battling with them. That's half the fun of Smash.

''Oh look at Link and Samus kick one another's ass!"

[Ncrawler333]

I always kind of wanted Skull Kid and Banjo Kazooie as playable characters...Oh well, maybe next time.

Skull Kid is still a possibility. There will most likely be at least one new Zelda character, and Skull Kid has just as much of a chance as Vaati, Midna(with or without Wolf Link), or Wind Waker styled Link.

I can't wait to make some super rigged levels, and for the coins; I think they will be used just like they were in Mellee. To buy trophies.

Yeah, the coins will probably still be the lotto system, though they might expand it so that you not only get trophies from it, but stickers and music for stages too.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

I hope they have a custom map search feature online like Far Cry does

[TheRunningMan]

For character creation, just have 100 points to put into various places, ala sports games. In Madden, you cant make a running back who is huge, fast, and agile without hurting other various stats.

For example, you could have a bruising character, like DK, but he doesnt have the ranged attacks like Samus.
yes you can

[The Evolutionist]

Skull Kid is still a possibility. There will most likely be at least one new Zelda character, and Skull Kid has just as much of a chance as Vaati, Midna(with or without Wolf Link), or Wind Waker styled Link.


While I don't think we need another Zelda character, Midna riding Wolf Link would be SOOOO badass.

[Mr. Marko]

I think that we are going to see alot more characters be revealed still. With three months to go, we already have a big line up. IMO we have alot more newcomers we havn't even seen yet. Hopefully there's 40-50 total.

[Roughneck]

Just for the hell I'll ask a question.



If you could have one Non Video game character in there.....who would you want?


I was gonna saw godzilla....but we've already got Bowser....I'm thinking maybe....Predetor

[Spidey-Bat]

Batman or Jesus

[terry78]

Jesus would have to be powered down considerably. He can heal himself AND turn the water into wine.

[TheRunningMan]

arnold schwarzenegger

[Roughneck]

When did Jesus ever heal himself?

[Roughneck]

When did Jesus ever heal himself?

[Roughneck]

When did Jesus ever heal himself?

[Spidey-Bat]

If Jesus was in Brawl and you had 2 players both choose him, would they be able to damage each other?

[spideyboy_1111]

yes, but one would be considred evil jesus

[Sandman138]

Just for the hell I'll ask a question.



If you could have one Non Video game character in there.....who would you want?


I was gonna saw godzilla....but we've already got Bowser....I'm thinking maybe....Predetor

Ron Jeremy dressed as Mario.:o

[Brainiac 8]

Glacer Mountain, and it seems pretty cool actually. :up:

Doesn't that fish look like the one from Balloon Fight? When you get too close to the water and it eats you.

Do you thing he is hinting that a Balloon Fighter will be a new playable fighter?

I would love that actually....:eek:

[spideyboy_1111]

ballon fighter i think has a great chance....

and btw.. glacer mountain looks like friggin fun...

plus looks like u can now "swim" in the game.. cuz that seems to be what De3 is doing

[Brainiac 8]

I think some of the classic Nintendo franchises need more representation...and a Balloon Fighter would be a great addition. (So would Little Mac.:cmad: )

All we have so far is Pit and Ice Climbers.

[spideyboy_1111]

well pit and balloon fighter for some reason i always felt were on the same level of popularity for nintendo.. and both were trophies in melee.. so wouldnt surprise me if balloon fighter made the cut.. would have no clue what his moves would be though

[Mr. Marko]

Balloon Fighter would be awesome! Bring back all the old school characters!! Haha. I like the Summit too.

[Ncrawler333]

From what I've read, the Balloon Fighter was actually playable in the beta version of Melee, so I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he made it onto the roster for Brawl. I'm guessing that since the fish appears in the background of the Ice Climbers' stage, he'll probably be an unlockable character.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Ice Climbers stage looks great. I have a friend who absolutely hated their vertical race stage in Melee. Hopefully she'll like this one a little more, since the stage at least travels with you when it moves this time. :)

[Astrø]

Do you thing he is hinting that a Balloon Fighter will be a new playable fighter?

I would love that actually....:eek:
I like the Ballon Fighters too. I would love (as much as I would love megaman being in it) to be able to play Balloon Fighter.

[Astrø]

I think some of the classic Nintendo franchises need more representation...and a Balloon Fighter would be a great addition. (So would Little Mac.:cmad: )

All we have so far is Pit and Ice Climbers.
We could put Paper Boy in but his moves would be very weird but if done right also very cool.

[TheCorpulent1]

Paper Boy would rock. His forward+B could make him whip out his bike and dash across the screen. His regular B could make him throw a rolled-up newspaper at people. :D

[Astrø]

Paper Boy would rock. His forward+B could make him whip out his bike and dash across the screen. His regular B could make him throw a rolled-up newspaper at people. :D
He could jump off his bike in Mid-Air for is Up "B". The only thing that I am woried about is that they will make him an assist character. :csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd be okay with him as an Assist Trophy. He could pop out of his trophy case and do a ride-by, hitting everyone with newspapers. :)

[WolfCypher]

The Ice Climbers stage looks great. I have a friend who absolutely hated their vertical race stage in Melee. Hopefully she'll like this one a little more, since the stage at least travels with you when it moves this time. :)

I wouldn't expect anyone to like Icicle Mountain/Infinite Glacier.

I didn't think the Ice Climbers would get a completely new and original stage, but now that I think about it, why wouldn't they? They got original moves not seen from any of their games (game), and their Final Smash would have to be new & original. This stage so reminds me of the arctic glacier stage from Power Stone 2, sans the submarines.

Not the best stage update, but one I can't wiat to play on.

[TheCorpulent1]

The Melee stage was pretty distracting. I much prefer the stages that actually travel around to different areas, like PokéFloats, if the stage is going to move at all.

[Mr. Marko]

Paper Boy would be so awesome! I agree with the moving stage thing. PokeFloats or Big Blue. Dynamic levels are awesome. My roommates and I play Melee literally every day for about 20-30 mins and they all want Hyrule Temple, but I prefer the levels that really challenge you.

[spideyboy_1111]

i think it shows a greater skill if your good at levels that move + items.

[WolfCypher]

http://mntorankusu.googlepages.com/brawlstageeditor.html

[SLYspyder]

you guys are getting too carried away with this character stuff. We don't need C grade, D grade, curtain pushing characters in this game.

This game is for Legendary Nintendo characters and a few A-listers from 3rd parties. The game won't get better if you had stupid characters, it'll get worse, cause it takes away from Mario, Link, Samus...you know, real Nintendo stars. So enough with all this balloon fighter, paper boy and so forth crap

[SLYspyder]

I think the Miis should be there. If you would have said that having Mr. Game & Watch in Melee would be cool before I would have punched you in the face, but look how awesome it turned out. Little weird characters deserve a spot too!

No Miis shouldn't be in the ****in game. That's worse than the freakin' character creator idea. If this was a wrestling game or something, that's cool, because YOU could become a wrestler. But guess what? You're not a nintendo character, nor will you ever be, and what makes it even worse is that Miis look so retarded. Little weird characters don't have a place now, and will never have a place among the Legendary Nintendo first party line-up.

[WolfCypher]

you guys are getting too carried away with this character stuff. We don't need C grade, D grade, curtain pushing characters in this game.

This game is for Legendary Nintendo characters and a few A-listers from 3rd parties. The game won't get better if you had stupid characters, it'll get worse, cause it takes away from Mario, Link, Samus...you know, real Nintendo stars. So enough with all this balloon fighter, paper boy and so forth crap

{Glares at the Ice Climbers} You heard him! GET OUT!

[StrainedEyes]

No Miis shouldn't be in the ****in game. That's worse than the freakin' character creator idea. If this was a wrestling game or something, that's cool, because YOU could become a wrestler. But guess what? You're not a nintendo character, nor will you ever be, and what makes it even worse is that Miis look so retarded. Little weird characters don't have a place now, and will never have a place among the Legendary Nintendo first party line-up.

:whatever:

[SLYspyder]

When did Jesus ever heal Himself?

If He can heal people and raise people from the dead, He can heal Himself.

If Jesus was in Brawl and you had 2 players both choose him, would they be able to damage each other?

Nope

:whatever:

Yeah, roll your eyes real hard. You sure showed me.

[Roughneck]

He was rolling his eyes because you showed yourself.

you state that I will never be a Nintendo character...so miis shouldn't be in brawl....Well guess what? My Mii IS a Nintendo character

[Spidey-Bat]

Miis should NOT be playable characters in Brawl.

[Roughneck]

To each thier own.....

Though the more posts of SLYSpyder's I read...I find myself disagreeing with him even more....


Anyway....this new stage looks great....good fun to play drunk with friends

[spideyboy_1111]

you guys are getting too carried away with this character stuff. We don't need C grade, D grade, curtain pushing characters in this game.

This game is for Legendary Nintendo characters and a few A-listers from 3rd parties. The game won't get better if you had stupid characters, it'll get worse, cause it takes away from Mario, Link, Samus...you know, real Nintendo stars. So enough with all this balloon fighter, paper boy and so forth crap

it's about nintendo as a whole... if we had it your way we would'nt even have half of the players in melee

[Mr. Marko]

Melee has some pretty cool characters in it that were C-D Grade (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Marth, Roy, Ness) and it made it cooler. The original Smash Bros was about the big shots. They're obviously expanding the franchise beyond that. Pit isn't a big character, but they're making him a fairly big part of the game. Don't get your nickers in a twist everyone. The game will be awesome no matter what. :woot:

[Spidey-Bat]

it's about nintendo as a whole... if we had it your way we would'nt even have half of the players in melee

Paper Boy and Balloon Fighter are completely stupid.

[Mr. Marko]

So were characters like Ness and Ice Climbers, but they made them work.

[Spidey-Bat]

Ness was good. Ice Climbers were ok. They are at least more interesting than Balloon Fighter and Paper Boy since they're 2 characters.

[Mr. Marko]

They could easily make Balloon Fighter cool, and I'm pretty sure Paper Boy could be too. I honestly don't think Paper Boy will be anything more than an AT though. But with the appearance of that fish, I think Balloon Fighter is a pretty good bet.

[Spidey-Bat]

Paper Boy could not be cool.

[BRUTAL]

Paper Boy would be awesome

[Mr. Marko]

Wait...no, you're right...there is no way in hell that Nintendo, the company that has brought us literally dozens of beloved characters, could make Paper Boy, a character who was on the NES and therefore has alot of space to be tweaked with to be changed to fit the dynamics of the game, a good character. :whatever:

[BRUTAL]

He's clearly an idiot, no reason to get worked up.

[hippie_hunter]

Why are we even debating about Paperboy, he's not even a Nintendo character nor a Japanese third party character.

[BRUTAL]

He's been on a bunch of Nintendo's systems.

[Spidey-Bat]

http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/psx/02/bubsy3d.jpg
Bubsy should be in Brawl :rolleyes:

[Mr. Marko]

Hahaha...Bubsy...looks like somebody's a hotlinker...

[SLYspyder]

He was rolling his eyes because you showed yourself.

you state that I will never be a Nintendo character...so miis shouldn't be in brawl....Well guess what? My Mii IS a Nintendo character

Hate to break it to you, but your Mii isn't a Nintendo character. Nintendo doesn't have YOUR Mii copyrighted. That's like saying a player you made in Madden is an NFL player...yeah....but no.

[SLYspyder]

Wait...no, you're right...there is no way in hell that Nintendo, the company that has brought us literally dozens of beloved characters, could make Paper Boy, a character who was on the NES and therefore has alot of space to be tweaked with to be changed to fit the dynamics of the game, a good character. :whatever:

Paper boy, are you serious? Yeah, put a BOY in a game with characters with all these known abilities and have them fight. Yeah, his B move will be to throw paper at the enemy, it doesn't do damage, they just pick it up and read it. His up and B could be him riding his bicycle up in the air back into the stage ET style. Anymore ideas you want to add? His smash ball move could be him having his mum come on stage and scold all the other characters. Geez, at least Ness has psychic abilities and Roy is a swordsman, paperboy is just a boy, plain and simple. Come up with more totally off base characters please.

[terry78]

I like how SLY put so much thought into the reasoning as to why Paperboy would suck. :p

[spideyboy_1111]

Paper Boy and Balloon Fighter are completely stupid.

says mr negative....
paper boy i do think is lame though

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm not Mr. Negative. I'm Mr. Realistic.

[spideyboy_1111]

no, your a pansy complainer who does just that on everything, even shooting down peoples wishful thinking, just because you personally dont agree. so every party has a popper and the pooper of the party is YOU. but i know ill personally laugh in your face if ever Mii's, Tails. or Balloon fighter makes it in the game... infact i think many will

[Spidey-Bat]

I don't crush people's dreams, I bring them back to earth.

[spideyboy_1111]

I don't crush people's dreams, I bring them back to earth.

keep telling yourself that, o wise dictator telling us how to think

[Spidey-Bat]

I don't tell you how to think. I tell you what I think about what you think. If you don't have the balls to deal with it, that's not my problem.

[spideyboy_1111]

then deal with your own balls and realise your negative about everything

[Spidey-Bat]

Quit being so sensitive.

[Roughneck]

He's kinda right....is there anything in SSBB that you haven't complained about?

I mean...what do you want the game to be? Mario vs Link vs DK vs Samus?

though i agree that paperboy would suck **** as anythign other than an Assist Trophy....but I do think Baloon Fighter could be cool

[BRUTAL]

How does Mr. Game & Watch work and yet Paperboy and Balloon Fighter do not?

Or how about Captain Falcon? He's a character in a RACING game. Yet a character with the word "fight" right in his name is stupid?

[Roughneck]

But stilll......is anyone actually being serious about Paper boy?

Would he get off of his bike?

[BRUTAL]

I was a supporter of have Excitebike as being a playable character. He doesn't get off the bike, he sits in idle, and then he gasses it to move. You work in some dirt-bike-centric moves and you've got a nostalgic character. At least with Paperboy you get projectiles.

Are there other classic NES characters that would work better? F**k yes, but we're not talking about them.

[spideyboy_1111]

reason i dont like paper boy is visually he's boring. just a kid on a bike.. not even cartoony like ness...

[Mr. Marko]

Its not the fact that we're talking about Paper Boy. My point is that if Nintendo decided to have him in the game, they could and WOULD make him cool and playable. And I think that even if "Mr Realistic" knew I was right he wouldn't admit it. He would just say I was wrong because that's what he likes to do. Contradict. Seriously, this thread is to build up the hype for the game and discuss cool ideas, not to tell everybody else that their ideas suck. Let's simply respect other people's ideas and leave it at that, shall we?

[spideyboy_1111]

Its not the fact that we're talking about Paper Boy. My point is that if Nintendo decided to have him in the game, they could and WOULD make him cool and playable. And I think that even if "Mr Realistic" knew I was right he wouldn't admit it. He would just say I was wrong because that's what he likes to do. Contradict. Seriously, this thread is to build up the hype for the game and discuss cool ideas, not to tell everybody else that their ideas suck. Let's simply respect other people's ideas and leave it at that, shall we?

agrees.. some people just think they know more then everyone else.. and decide to act immature ;)

[Mr. Marko]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/metaknight/metaknight_071101f-l.jpg

MetaKnight Final Smash! Seems hard to use...

[spideyboy_1111]

lame update...


damn we still have alot of final smashes that need revealed on the site... alot of pokeballs... gah.. theres alot of lameness ahead

[JustABill]

Ugh. Release a veteran already. :down:

[zeptron]

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but has it been said how many arenas will be in this game?

[Astrø]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/metaknight/metaknight_071101f-l.jpg

MetaKnight Final Smash! Seems hard to use...
Looks cool. I guess thats worth something. (I hope)

[BRUTAL]

Yeah, but it's a b**ch to land. If you're playing against someone who's not an idiot and you miss then that's it, move wasted. If you manage to hit someone with it, then a bunch of unintelligible stuff happens and people take damage. Um... yay? :dry:

[Spidey-Bat]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/metaknight/metaknight_071101f-l.jpg

MetaKnight Final Smash! Seems hard to use...

From first-hand accounts, Meta Knight seems to have very good regular attacks. A difficult Final Smash compensates for that.

[BRUTAL]

First-hand accounts?

[Spidey-Bat]

The people who played the demos at that convention in LA.

[BRUTAL]

So none of the other characters have very good regular attacks?

[Spidey-Bat]

I didn't say that.

[BRUTAL]

You didn't really say anything. You speculated with information you don't really have.

Good contribution. :up:

[Spidey-Bat]

No, you just can't read.

[BRUTAL]

You're stating that it's a fact that his Final Smash is compensating for moves you don't even really know he has. Your information is second-hand as you didn't actually play the game. You're basing your statement on a opinion, and it's not even your opinion.

Keep up with your superiority gimmick though. :up:

[hippie_hunter]

I'm really hoping that either Captain Falcon or Luigi are revealed tommorrow :(

[BRUTAL]

Captain Falcon is definitely coming soon, but I have a feeling Luigi might be an unlockable.

[SuperFerret]

You didn't really say anything. You speculated with information you don't really have.

Good contribution. :up:

He should be in politics.

[Spidey-Bat]

You're stating that it's a fact that his Final Smash is compensating for moves you don't even really know he has. Your information is second-hand as you didn't actually play the game. You're basing your statement on a opinion, and it's not even your opinion.

Keep up with your superiority gimmick though. :up:

All I said was from what I heard about people who played the game is that Meta-Knight had really good regular attacks. They were even considered cheap because of how good they were. I reasoned that because of this, his Final Smash would be more difficult than other ones like Mario and Samus because his regular moves are so good.

BTW, I do know moves he has. I've seen them in videos.

[BRUTAL]

I've seen people do backflips in videos, it doesn't mean I have any idea how easy or difficult it is to pull it off.

[Spidey-Bat]

Yeah, that comparison makes a lot of sense.

[BRUTAL]

Just like watching a video of a video game character moving...

[Nathan]

Ok, what's all the *****ing about? All he did was to tell us what some guys said who played the game.

[Brainiac 8]

What's with all the arguing?

There were many first hand accounts by many game sites and many of them stated that Meta Knight was one of their favorite fighters.

[Manic]

Don't question why any two people on the Hype! are arguing. It's like the wind. It happens, and we don't need a reason why.

[A.X.L]

Take your handbags outside ladies

[Dew k. Mosi]

Everybody knock it off please

[Purple Prancer]

walk it out walk it out

[Spidey-Bat]

Everybody knock it off please

It ended 4 hours ago

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Take your handbags outside ladies

Nicely put.

[BRUTAL]

It ended 4 hours ago
Dew's rockin' the old-lady computer... it takes her a while to get places.

[JustABill]

Hahahahahaha. Mods in the Smash thread. That's crazy. :down:

[spideyboy_1111]

Captain Falcon is definitely coming soon, but I have a feeling Luigi might be an unlockable.

i think its fullish to think some of what we have already seen arn't unlockables... if you think like that you will be sorely let down.

[DareDemon]

So yeah I think it'd be awesome if Megaman was the last 3rd party character.

I think my main characters will be Link, Sonic, maybe Meta-Knight, Pit, and Pokemon Trainer.

I've never made a thread that got this big, and I likely never will again. I'm excited.

[Manic]

I'm looking forward to playing as Peach (again), Link (again), Not-Ness (assuming Ness himself won't be playable), and Pit.

[zeptron]

Today's update is the intro poses. Snake's is pretty cool.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/images/technique06/technique06_071102g-l.jpg

[Dragmire]

Once they get rid of trash updates like these, we'll get routine goodness.

[TheCorpulent1]

Today's update is the intro poses. Snake's is pretty cool.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/images/technique06/technique06_071102g-l.jpg
I want to play as Snake even more now. :up:

I wonder if that means they're definitely taking Snake from MGS2 for Brawl. That intro looks pretty much identical to Snake's decloaking in the beginning movie of MGS2.

[Astrø]

Today's update is the intro poses. Snake's is pretty cool.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/images/technique06/technique06_071102g-l.jpg
Cloaking. Nice. :up:

[StrainedEyes]

You're stating that it's a fact that his Final Smash is compensating for moves you don't even really know he has. Your information is second-hand as you didn't actually play the game. You're basing your statement on a opinion, and it's not even your opinion.

Keep up with your superiority gimmick though. :up:

Uhh, we know what moves MetaKnight has

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic05.html

Mach Tornado
Triple Dash
Shuttle Loop
Dimensional Cape

So, cha cha.

[TheRunningMan]

I'm glad their going with those intros instead of the one in melee

[Spider-Jay]

Today's update is the intro poses. Snake's is pretty cool.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/images/technique06/technique06_071102g-l.jpg

Oh my....****ING WIN!:wow:

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm glad they brought the introductions back. I was disappointed they took them out in Melee.

[Red]

This was a very meh week.

[Telekinetic]

sure was. nothing that interesting happened

we better get a character soon

[Spidey-Bat]

You all realize we're being spoiled by getting an update EVERY SINGLE DAY (except the weekend). It's better than a couple things every month from a magazine. Or what they used to do which was nothing at all.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's nice that they're giving us updates. That doesn't mean we can't comment on the quality of the updates.

[TheRunningMan]

yeah

[Roughneck]

The daily updates are keeping the Hype for this game alive.......damn I want it

[TheCorpulent1]

Me, too. But, really, I'd want it without the updates, too.

[Telekinetic]

i just really really hope we get a demo =/

[JustABill]

Haha. We won't.

[Telekinetic]

how come?

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, maybe with all the current-gen focus on internet connectivity, they'll release a demo. I doubt it, but it'd be nice.

[Ncrawler333]

I thought this week was pretty good. We got the stage builder update on Monday, which was a pretty big update. Then we also got a new stage shown, and while we already knew the intros were back, we still saw a couple that we didn't know about(Ice Climbers and Lucas).

I'm guessing that we'll get a new/veteran character update sometimes early next week.

[Brainiac 8]

Thet need to hurry and show Captain Falcon so everyone can stop bellyaching about it. :p

Personally I would love for them to finally reveal another veteran.....maybe Falco or Ness.....or maybe even Ganon.

[TheCorpulent1]

The next veteran they reveal must be Captain Falcon. I demand it. :cmad:

[Mr. Marko]

Captain Falcon will probably be the next veteran. I hope they reveal Luigi soon too. They're probably going to give him a new move set. I hope they don't get rid of his Luigi Missile! Watch though, the next veteran will be Jigglypuff!

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe we'll luck out and get Wigglytuff instead. :)

[Spidey-Bat]

Thet need to hurry and show Captain Falcon so everyone can stop bellyaching about it. :p

Personally I would love for them to finally reveal another veteran.....maybe Falco or Ness.....or maybe even Ganon.

Captain Falcon will be in the game.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist02.html

[TheCorpulent1]

Plenty of Assist Trophies come from various Nintendo games without having a playable counterpart from the same game.

[Spidey-Bat]

Capt. Falcon has been in the series since the first game. His rival is an assist trophy (but should be a character). He will be in the game.

[The Leaguer]

I don't think we can take for granted that anyone will be in the game. It's highly likely that Falcon will be there, but you can't say for sure.

[TheCorpulent1]

Exactly. They change, add, and drop characters in each iteration of Smash.

[SuperFerret]

It would be entirely senseless and unfair to just drop Falcon like that. Even if he's one of the worst racers in his own game.

[The Leaguer]

How would it be senseless and unfair? :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

Because he's the best character in every Smash game evarrrrr!!!111 :cmad:

[The Leaguer]

Beyond the fanboy aspect, I mean.

[SuperFerret]

How would it be senseless and unfair? :confused:

Senseless because Samurai Goroh is in it as a Assist Trophy, indicating that the F-Zero Universe hasn't been dropped, and because Falcon's been around since the N64.

Unfair because he's a long-standing character who has many fans, and is the representative of his game franchise.

[TheCorpulent1]

Beyond the fanboy aspect, I mean.
Because he's the only character I'm good with. :(

[The Leaguer]

Senseless because Samurai Goroh is in it as a Assist Trophy, indicating that the F-Zero Universe hasn't been dropped, and because Falcon's been around since the N64.

Unfair because he's a long-standing character who has many fans, and is the representative of his game franchise.

Samurai Goroh as an assist trophy means jacks***. Excitebike is also an assist trophy, so we can expect a dude on a dirtbike whoamg lolz! Who cares how long Falcon has been around? It's not like Falcon has a three-game contract or anything. Scorpion, one of the, if not the, most popular characters in Mortal Kombat and Mortal Kombat 2 wasn't even in the first version of Mortal Kombat 3.

Only a 'tard would believe that Nintendo leaving a character out of a game is in any way "unfair." I want Falco or Fox in the game, but is it unfair for them to be left out? No, because Nintendo has no obligation to any of us. They could turn Smash into a chess game for all they care.

[Spidey-Bat]

I don't think we can take for granted that anyone will be in the game. It's highly likely that Falcon will be there, but you can't say for sure.

I can.

[The Leaguer]

Good luck with that.

[Spidey-Bat]

Samurai Goroh as an assist trophy means jacks***. Excitebike is also an assist trophy, so we can expect a dude on a dirtbike whoamg lolz! Who cares how long Falcon has been around? It's not like Falcon has a three-game contract or anything.
The dude from Excitebike is nameless and wasn't in the previous 2 Smash Bros. games.

Scorpion, one of the, if not the, most popular characters in Mortal Kombat and Mortal Kombat 2 wasn't even in the first version of Mortal Kombat 3.
That's because Mortal Kombat sucks. The only thing they can do to change it is change the character roster and make up even more ridiculous combinations

Only a 'tard would believe that Nintendo leaving a character out of a game is in any way "unfair."
It's stupid but not unfair.


Everyone has a 6 ft. pole up their ass about this game.

[Telekinetic]

why dont you people calm down,

hes gonna be in. he was one of best/popular
characters it wouldent make sense to leave him out

[A.X.L]

The dude from Excitebike is nameless and wasn't in the previous 2 Smash Bros. games.


That's because Mortal Kombat sucks. The only thing they can do to change it is change the character roster and make up even more ridiculous combinations


It's stupid but not unfair.


Everyone has a 6 ft. pole up their ass about this game.

what 's yours? A 12 footer?

[Spidey-Bat]

what 's yours? A 12 footer?

No. I don't put things up my ass.

[Dragmire]

No. I don't put things up my ass.

Come on... everyone has at least once tried putting something up their ass. Don't deny it.

[Spidey-Bat]

Not me. I don't bend that way.

[TheCorpulent1]

Depending on the length of the pole you're trying to get up there, bending might not be advisable anyway. :up:

[TheRunningMan]

I stuck a toy car up my ass once

[Dragmire]

I shouldn't have encouraged this.

[hippie_hunter]

Exactly. They change, add, and drop characters in each iteration of Smash.

Since when have they dropped a fighter? Never that's when. Brawl is going to be the first time fighters are dropped and that's because lamers like Pichu were exactly like other fighters.

Nintendo seems like they're going to change clone characters like Luigi, Gannondorf, and Falco to be their own characters and get rid of characters like Pichu and Dr. Mario who would have been better off as skins. Though it seems like Ness, Mr. Game & Watch, Roy, and Marth are going away for no reason :(

[Spidey-Bat]

Since when have they dropped a fighter? Never that's when. Brawl is going to be the first time fighters are dropped and that's because lamers like Pichu were exactly like other fighters.

Nintendo seems like they're going to change clone characters like Luigi, Gannondorf, and Falco to be their own characters and get rid of characters like Pichu and Dr. Mario who would have been better off as skins. Though it seems like Ness, Mr. Game & Watch, Roy, and Marth are going away for no reason :(

Roy and Marth are going because they are being replaced by Fire Emblem characters more familiar to the English-speaking consumers. Ness has been replaced with Lucas likely b/c Mother 3 is more recent.

[Ncrawler333]

Captain Falcon will be in Brawl. When they updated Samurai Goroh as an assist trophy, they used the following symbol in the top left corner of the update:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_05.gif

This the same symbol that appears on Captain Falcon's helmet, as seen in multiple pictures at the link below:

http://www.answers.com/topic/captain-falcon?cat=technology

I highly doubt that they would remove Captain Falcon from the game, and then keep the Falcon symbol in the game.

[TheRunningMan]

you guys need to stop panicing. we;ve still got like 4 months of updates left

[TheRunningMan]

the hell?

[StrainedEyes]

Yeah, everybody needs to relax. Captain Falcon will be in the game. They haven't done a Veteran Fighter update in awhile and they haven't even done Luigi yet who is definitely going to be in.

The only info we ever got was a rumor about 1 character from the first Smash being taken out. And Ness is gone.

I hope they do Luigi or Gannondorf soon. I want to see their new move sets.

[Venomfan]

i got a sweet idea for Ganondorfs final smash, make it like Bowsers, so he turns into Ganon
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/Makoorakoo/ganon.jpghttp://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/LOZFAN123/4.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/PazuzuCthulhu/baasganon.jpg

[DareDemon]

i got a sweet idea for Ganondorfs final smash, make it like Bowsers, so he turns into Ganon
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/Makoorakoo/ganon.jpghttp://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/LOZFAN123/4.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/PazuzuCthulhu/baasganon.jpg

:up: :up: :up:

That would be tight.

[Super Kal]

Roy and Marth are going because they are being replaced by Fire Emblem characters more familiar to the English-speaking consumers. Ness has been replaced with Lucas likely b/c Mother 3 is more recent.
I'm an English speaking consumer, and I've never heard of Ike :mad:

[Dragmire]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/SeriouslyItsReal.jpg?t=1194233943

Tonight's update... ignore the date.

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm an English speaking consumer, and I've never heard of Ike :mad:

He's in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance on the GC.

[JustABill]

and the upcoming Wii game as well.

[Brainiac 8]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/SeriouslyItsReal.jpg?t=1194233943

Tonight's update... ignore the date.


God I hope not. :csad:

I'm not against the idea by any means, but I would really want them to announce someone else new or a veteran.

[Archangel]

New update's a cool cutscene and Fire Emblem music, don't worry.

[JustABill]

That cut scene rocks all types. I love the insanely odd never thought possible team ups in story mode going on.

[Astrø]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/SeriouslyItsReal.jpg?t=1194233943

Tonight's update... ignore the date.
Wii have to fight a Mii? :huh:

[StrainedEyes]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/SeriouslyItsReal.jpg?t=1194233943

Tonight's update... ignore the date.

Guess not. :whatever:

[Super_Hero]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/SeriouslyItsReal.jpg?t=1194233943

Tonight's update... ignore the date.

God no, except the mii's should be a assist trophy.

The diddy kong video was the best one so far, diddy kong is so gonna be one of my best characters...:woot:

[TheCorpulent1]

Wii have to fight a Mii? :huh:
The puns alone make me hope the Miis don't make it into Brawl. :o

[Mr. Marko]

Very cool cut scene! I love seeing those!

[Spidey-Bat]

"As Diddy Kong discovers it, and evil hand reaches from the lake"

I guess no one took the time to proof read.


That cut scene was kickass. I love how the Nintendo universe is colliding in this game. This game reminds me so much of Kingdom Hearts. The use of the sound effects, the appearance of enemies and how they slightly pause and go slow. If you've played it you probably know what I'm talking about.

[Dragmire]

That cut scene was kickass. I love how the Nintendo universe is colliding in this game. This game reminds me so much of Kingdom Hearts. The use of the sound effects, the appearance of enemies and how they slightly pause and go slow. If you've played it you probably know what I'm talking about.

Those new fangled games and their sound effects. What will they think of next?

[Spidey-Bat]

I mean how they used them for Diddy. They used a bouncing kind of sound for his movement and that is something similar to one in Kingdom Hearts.

[A.X.L]

I mean how they used them for Diddy. They used a bouncing kind of sound for his movement and that is something similar to one in Kingdom Hearts.

Bouncing sounds? Wow futuristic!

[JustABill]

The woman who scored Kingdom Hearts is working on music and sound effects in this game. She also worked on Super Mario RPG for all those Geno supporters out there.

[Spidey-Bat]

The woman who scored Kingdom Hearts is working on music and sound effects in this game. She also worked on Super Mario RPG for all those Geno supporters out there.

No wonder it seems so similar. I like it :up:

[Roughneck]

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/505/seriouslyitsrealtj8.jpg





How awesome would that be? At least as an assist trophy

[WolfCypher]

Already considered him. He was on my original list of 5 Most Wanted (R.O.B., Wolf, Lucario, Isaac, and Andy). Making R.O.B. an minor henchmen enemy in Adventure Mode doesn't do his chances of being playable any good.

[Ncrawler333]

R.O.B. would have been cool. At least he's an enemy in the adventure mode, and he'll also probably get a trophy.

[JustABill]

Oh my god...

I have no words about this update. :dry:

[spideyboy_1111]

lllllaaaaaammmeee

[Mr. Marko]

I hate lame updates...

[StrainedEyes]

Oh my god...

I have no words about this update. :dry:

Oh c'mon, be happy they grouped all these together as one update.

[Dragmire]

One question...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/AAAAA.jpg?t=1194354584

What's that?

[Astrø]

One question...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/PyroHazard/AAAAA.jpg?t=1194354584

What's that?
A NEW ITEM!!! Sweet it hasn't even been released! :wow: !!! :wow:

[JustABill]

Someone on Smash World Forums said it could be the stop watch from Super Mario Brothers 2.

[A.X.L]

slows the other charecters most prob

[DareDemon]

This update was too big.

They should have shown every item seperately.

[Mr. Marko]

Are you serious? That would have been awful! Imagine going to the site to see...THE PARTY BALL! I would kill myself before receiving that...

[The Leaguer]

This update was too big.

They should have shown every item seperately.

You are what's wrong with Smashbros.com.

[Spidey-Bat]

This update was too big.

They should have shown every item seperately.

Then people would be *****ing "Today's update was SOOO lame!"

[The Leaguer]

It was lame anyway.

[Mr. Marko]

Yeah.

[Brainiac 8]

It actually looks like the stop watch from Castlvania.


SIMON BELMONT CONFIRMED!!!11!!! :up: :wow: :woot: :dry: :csad:

Ok...so maybe not.

[Telekinetic]

these past updates are doing it for me lol

new character soon and ill be happy or some gameplay cmon

[Dragmire]

It actually looks like the stop watch from Castlvania.


Wait... what?

[DareDemon]

I was kidding guys, it's cool.

[Dragmire]

Nice recovery.

[Roughneck]

I still think Simon has a chance

[Johnny DC]

i got a sweet idea for Ganondorfs final smash, make it like Bowsers, so he turns into Ganon
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/Makoorakoo/ganon.jpghttp://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r226/LOZFAN123/4.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/PazuzuCthulhu/baasganon.jpg

Actually, if Ganondorf was in the game, he'd be modeled after the Twilight Princess version, so if transforming into Ganon was his Final Smash, he'd turn into a giant, four-legged warthog.

[WolfCypher]

Anyway, here's a very minor thing I learned. Motoi Sakuraba, composer of Golden Sun's soundtrack, is one of the composer's on Brawl.

[The Leaguer]

Shocking.

[JustABill]

I think the composer page pretty much gives away some of the character choices coming are way. :o

[Brainiac 8]

Wait... what?


Do you not remember the stop watch in the original Castlevania?:huh:

[Dragmire]

Nope, sorry.

[Brainiac 8]

Well, there was a stopwatch, and it...uh....stopped time. :dry:

That's about it. :p

Truth be told though, so many games utilized a stopwatch throughout the history of gaming that it could be from any number of Nintendo titles. Plus, I wouldn't want two Konomi characters to be in the game.

Give me Mega Man gosh darn dang diddly! :cmad:

[Dragmire]

Plus, I wouldn't want two Konomi characters to be in the game.


Why not?

[Brainiac 8]

Why not?


Selfish reasons really...mostly because if they put in two Konomi characters, then it might take the slot away from Mega Man.:csad:

Or Geno.....or Black Mage.....or Sora....or any number of third party representatives I would like to see from another company.

[Dragmire]

I honestly doubt that you have anything to worry about. This game feels more and more like there's an unlimited amount of seats.

[Brainiac 8]

How true that is. Yet, I am not complaining about that. The more the merrier for me, and it may help get the bad taste out of my mouth that maybe...just maybe they kicked Ness to the curb.:csad:

[Blacklight]

Selfish reasons really...mostly because if they put in two Konomi characters, then it might take the slot away from Mega Man.:csad:

Or Geno.....or Black Mage.....or Sora....or any number of third party representatives I would like to see from another company.
SORA!

I'm sorry. I have tourettes...

SORA!

..but it doesn't have me.

[JustABill]

Sora has a chance, but I think Geno will be the Square representative.

[Brainiac 8]

Sora has a chance, but I think Geno will be the Square representative.


I hope so. Nintendo must know how many fans he had from those who played and loved SMRPG. :up:

[zeptron]

Today's update

Gray Fox (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html) as an assist trophy!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist11/assist11_071107b.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist11/assist11_071107c.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist11/assist11_071107d.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist11/assist11_071107e.jpg

[JustABill]

3rd Party Assist Trophies awesome.

But that's so wrong Sakurai is just taunting fans now.

[Brainiac 8]

Yup, Gray Fox and Grabbing technique.


Not a bad update, and that answers a question I had about assist trophies from the third party franchises that are represented.

I say we can now expect assist trophies for Eggman and Knuckles, or even Shadow the Lamehog.

[Mr. Marko]

Meh...dece update. We could see alot more 3rd party guys now though.

[Dragmire]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist11/assist11_071107e.jpg

Snake's got so much Junk in his trunk. :heart:

[Roughneck]

hmmmm, Gray Fox....Ninja....cool.....aslo...two double updated this week....nice

[JustABill]

Snake's got so much Junk in his trunk. :heart:
er3Uzdevgno

[Nathan]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist11/assist11_071107b.jpg

I'm so happy I could cry. Well, not really, but you know what I mean. I wish he would've been playable though. But I'm happy that he made it in at all.

[November Rain]

I bet he's unlockable.....or raiden will be unlockable.

what's the difference between raiden and gray fox, i thought they were both called cyber ninjas or something

[Nathan]

I don't know what the deal is with Raiden in MGS4, but in MGS2 he's normal just like Snake. Just another guy in a sneaking suit infiltrating a place.

[zeptron]

Hey maybe there's a chance Tails will appear now

[Gallagher]

GREY FOX!!! *Dies Happy*

[spideyboy_1111]

Hey maybe there's a chance Tails will appear now

tails and robotnick still have great chances as playables still, but tails will def be an asst trophy if not playable

[The Leaguer]

I bet he's unlockable.....or raiden will be unlockable.

what's the difference between raiden and gray fox, i thought they were both called cyber ninjas or something

He's not going to be unlockable, the point of assist trophies is to give characters that weren't quite good enough to be playable a chance to appear in the game.

Raiden won't appear because Gray Fox's appearance confirms that the Metal Gear Solid participation in Smash is representative of Twin Snakes, which makes sense because Twin Snakes was the only Metal Gear Solid to appear on a Nintendo system (Gamecube). Unless Nintendo announces in the near future that MGS 2 or 3 will be rereleased for the Wii, I think we can safely assume that all Metal Gear Solid references will be to MGS 1.

[hippie_hunter]

He's not going to be unlockable, the point of assist trophies is to give characters that weren't quite good enough to be playable a chance to appear in the game.

Raiden won't appear because Gray Fox's appearance confirms that the Metal Gear Solid participation in Smash is representative of Twin Snakes, which makes sense because Twin Snakes was the only Metal Gear Solid to appear on a Nintendo system (Gamecube). Unless Nintendo announces in the near future that MGS 2 or 3 will be rereleased for the Wii, I think we can safely assume that all Metal Gear Solid references will be to MGS 1.

Metal Gear RAY is in the game and the Metal Gear Solid 4 Love Theme is in the game also.

[Nathan]

And not to forget that Snakes is dressed like in MGS2.

[A.X.L]

MGS again.....lame

[StrainedEyes]

It's a little sad because Gray Fox was pretty much the only other MGS character that could have been in the game, which means MGS is just getting Snake as a rep this time around.

[TheCorpulent1]

"Just"? I wasn't even expecting him, so I think it's still a pretty good deal.

[Gallagher]

It's a little sad because Gray Fox was pretty much the only other MGS character that could have been in the game, which means MGS is just getting Snake as a rep this time around.

Liquid ;)

Possibly Raiden