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Van Petrol
05-12-2006, 11:56 AM
From BOF:
BEGINS Sequel to be "Darker"
Author: Jett
Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:24 AM CENTRAL TIME: Got the following tidbit in today I thought may interest you all. A few tidbits from a friend of BOF that sort of comes straight from the horses mouth, so to speak (he explained how, I just can't tell you all the details). Anyhow, expect:
- "They" pretty much have got the plot for the film outlined.
- Nolan has been re-going over all of the various Batman comics even more to comb for fine details.
- They (Nolan and co.) want it to be even darker than BEGINS.
- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit."
Sounds good to me people. And to WB, don't worry, just let Nolan and crew roll with it! I know I trus 'em...
Another plug for ON-FILM.NET. Got a new review of POSEIDON posted with more coming this weekend from other reviewers.
:up: BEGINS Sequel to be "Darker"
Author: Jett
Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:24 AM CENTRAL TIME: Got the following tidbit in today I thought may interest you all. A few tidbits from a friend of BOF that sort of comes straight from the horses mouth, so to speak (he explained how, I just can't tell you all the details). Anyhow, expect:
- "They" pretty much have got the plot for the film outlined.
- Nolan has been re-going over all of the various Batman comics even more to comb for fine details.
- They (Nolan and co.) want it to be even darker than BEGINS.
- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit."
Sounds good to me people. And to WB, don't worry, just let Nolan and crew roll with it! I know I trus 'em...
Another plug for ON-FILM.NET. Got a new review of POSEIDON posted with more coming this weekend from other reviewers.
That right there sealed the deal.:) :up:
batman44
05-12-2006, 01:42 PM
This is the best news yet, I love it.
Keyser Sushi
05-12-2006, 02:07 PM
Beautimous.
Eddie Dean
05-12-2006, 02:08 PM
Yay!
Kevin Roegele
05-12-2006, 02:10 PM
"- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit." "
LMAO, come on, that's fanboy wish forfillment. Studio's don't give a s*** about anything except the bottom line. If comicbook movies are popular, they'll make comicbook movies. If faithful comicbook movies are popular, they'll make faithful comicbook movies. If they think they can make money with Catwoman or Batman & Robin, they'll do that.
"- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit." "
LMAO, come on, that's fanboy wish forfillment. Studio's don't give a s*** about anything except the bottom line. If comicbook movies are popular, they'll make comicbook movies. If faithful comicbook movies are popular, they'll make faithful comicbook movies. If they think they can make money with Catwoman or Batman & Robin, they'll do that.
I think WB learned there lesson with those pieces of *****.
ultimatefan
05-12-2006, 02:22 PM
This update has just made my day...
batmaluco
05-12-2006, 03:12 PM
Sounds pretty cool.
Great news!
man, let's just hope for an 'R' rated director's cut . . . this is not totally implausible, cause Bale himself was quoted as saying he would love it if this happened . . . and him and Chris Nolan have been real buddy-buddy as of late
batmaluco
05-12-2006, 03:39 PM
man, let's just hope for an 'R' rated director's cut . . . this is not totally implausible, cause Bale himself was quoted as saying he would love it if this happened . . . and him and Chris Nolan have been real buddy-buddy as of late
Yes, it's not totally implausible, and could even make it more profitable for WB, to have another version in DVD releases. :up:
Warhammer
05-12-2006, 04:42 PM
Darker is good, unless it goes either "too far", because I like the vibe that Batman Begins set. It doesnt need to be more violent than it already is, therefore needing no R for a director's cut.
It also doesn't need to be Batman Returns dark.
That movie was a little too much dark.
Van Petrol
05-12-2006, 04:47 PM
Yeah, the first thing that came to mind when I read this was Batman Returns. They went darker there and the end result wasn't what everyone had hoped for. But I'm sure Nolan and Co. have learnt from BR, and know that although they can go darker there is a limit.
Katsuro
05-12-2006, 05:15 PM
This is great news! Studio supporting of being comic-faithful (they finally realized fans get pissed at change), Nolan is scouring comics for tiny details (we can almost definatley expect more comic scenes like the rooftop meeting of Batman, Gordon, and Dent), and it's going to be even darker! All great news.
Bathead
05-12-2006, 05:45 PM
Darker is good, but I find an "R" rated director's cut totally unwarranted and unnecessary.
ChrisBaleBatman
05-12-2006, 07:29 PM
They could always do the UNRATED DVD and PG-13 versions release.
And I dunno......Nolan wants it darker, and we know his term for darker is pretty much what we think, b/c he said Begins would be darker...and we got what we wanted there.
Erundur
05-12-2006, 08:12 PM
- They (Nolan and co.) want it to be even darker than BEGINS.
- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit."
This is what I like to hear, I'm really happy that Nolan's doing this franchise, now if only we knew who the Joker was :( Bettany Damn it!!!:mad::o
ganstaman56
05-12-2006, 08:16 PM
hmm...... havent we seen this already??
wikum
05-12-2006, 09:10 PM
it will be darker but it will have the same rating as the last one i'm sure of it.
they will just make the joker ultra creepy.
also harvey's scarring will have to look real, so that might be a slight problem for a pg13 release.
Begins Sequel to be "Darker"
I better bring a flashlight then :(:up:.
Warhammer
05-12-2006, 10:50 PM
it will be darker but it will have the same rating as the last one i'm sure of it.
they will just make the joker ultra creepy.
also harvey's scarring will have to look real, so that might be a slight problem for a pg13 release.
That's nothing.
Dropping the F-Bomb once in a PG-13 is worse than that.
Warhammer
05-12-2006, 10:52 PM
They could always do the UNRATED DVD and PG-13 versions release.
And I dunno......Nolan wants it darker, and we know his term for darker is pretty much what we think, b/c he said Begins would be darker...and we got what we wanted there.
I just dont want anywhere near as dark as Batman Returns.
That movie was so dark that it took out some enjoyment that I had for it.
I'd be my favorite Batman movie after Begins if it wasn't so dark.
Atomic Crusader
05-12-2006, 10:55 PM
I have a hunch that when they say darker they mean more serious, more intense. I hope somehow more dark = more Batman.
kytrigger
05-12-2006, 10:59 PM
That's nothing.
Dropping the F-Bomb once in a PG-13 is worse than that.
Well, technically you're allowed to say the F-word once in a PG-13 film. After that, it's R.
Warhammer
05-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Well, technically you're allowed to say the F-word once in a PG-13 film. After that, it's R.
I know.
I just meant that saying it once is worse than making the Batman Begins sequel R because of Two-Face's scars.
Dark Knight
05-12-2006, 11:18 PM
Sounds good to me! A darker film sounds okay by me...I just hope we can see the fight scenes a little clearer in the sequel however. I like hearing that "they" or Nolan is going over and reviewing some comics....to make sure they get certain important elements in the sequel. Good stuff! I trust Nolan and company whoever he picks for Joker.....and Dent...just as long as it is not Lucas. I'm still clamoring to find out if Talia will make an appearance in small....yet mysterious role! Ahhhhhhhh! lol..:up:
Darko
05-13-2006, 12:37 AM
Absolutely great news.
Batman Begins needs alittle more "DARK". I find the character needs a much more brooding side to him, much like Frank Miller's Batman. Hopefully they will switch up the color schematics as well, in favor of a darker "Underworld" look.
Ronny Shade
05-13-2006, 12:45 AM
I actually wouldn't be surprised if we got and R rated Batman movie eventually. It would be a mild R...like Constantine for instance. Kinda like how Revenge of the Sith was PG13 when all of the other SW movies were PG.
Dark Knight
05-13-2006, 04:45 AM
I actually wouldn't be surprised if we got and R rated Batman movie eventually. It would be a mild R...like Constantine for instance. Kinda like how Revenge of the Sith was PG13 when all of the other SW movies were PG.
Oh...how much i have wished for an R rated Batman film....but it will never happen...unless it was a DKR interpretation. I just hope, that by saying the film will be "darker" ...that doesn't mean it will be harder to see in the theater....i hope it means there will be more of an "edge" to it...lets just say. With Joker being involved and Dent being introduced....then it would seem kinda hard not to have a darker and more edgier sequel.
Dark Knight
05-13-2006, 04:49 AM
Absolutely great news.
Batman Begins needs alittle more "DARK". I find the character needs a much more brooding side to him, much like Frank Miller's Batman. Hopefully they will switch up the color schematics as well, in favor of a darker "Underworld" look.
yeah....i want to see Batman inflicting more physical pain to his enemies.....more broken bones...more screeching in pain from the criminals he hurts physically. I want to see a bit more intensity.....ala Tarantino style from Kill Bill. Not necessarily more blood....but more emotion of the pain that Batman inflicts on his opponents.
ultimatefan
05-13-2006, 09:13 AM
"- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit." "
LMAO, come on, that's fanboy wish forfillment. Studio's don't give a s*** about anything except the bottom line. If comicbook movies are popular, they'll make comicbook movies. If faithful comicbook movies are popular, they'll make faithful comicbook movies. If they think they can make money with Catwoman or Batman & Robin, they'll do that.
I think they meant the studioīs not trying to do another Spider-Man, and thatīs the right approach. If you want to make money with Batman, you gotta know that heīs popular for a different audience, that wants something darker.
Beelze
05-13-2006, 10:42 AM
- The studio is supportive of creating something as accurate to the Batman comic books as possible and less about it being some kind of summer popcorn "mega-hit."
This sounds too good to be true, but maybe the people in charge actually learned that people are capable of appreciating more than simple popcorn entertainment. Maybe the right people are in charge? You know, people like us.
If the next film ventured into R territory I wouldn't mind it. At least they could show some blood this time around. If they're straying away a bit from "blockbuster material" that hopefully means that we'll get more mystery, more detective work, and develop characters more.
myway
05-13-2006, 11:04 AM
Wow, even darker than "Nice Coat" "Does it come in black?" lol. Relax guys, "even" darker for Batman Begins is no reason to worry just yet.
El Payaso
05-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Why to worry? It started dark in 1939 and in 1989.
Bat Attack
05-13-2006, 11:43 AM
This update has just made my day...
Same here. :) :up:
BatMatt
05-13-2006, 12:22 PM
Batman will never be rated R, it cuts out too much of the fan base (younger children)
kytrigger
05-13-2006, 12:23 PM
I know.
I just meant that saying it once is worse than making the Batman Begins sequel R because of Two-Face's scars.
Ahh I gotcha. And yeah, I agree with that. The scars themselves shouldn't be too bad, unless they show him getting scarred in too graphic a manner.
Warhammer
05-13-2006, 12:31 PM
Ahh I gotcha. And yeah, I agree with that. The scars themselves shouldn't be too bad, unless they show him getting scarred in too graphic a manner.
Exactly. :)
Dark Knight
05-13-2006, 01:08 PM
This sounds too good to be true, but maybe the people in charge actually learned that people are capable of appreciating more than simple popcorn entertainment. Maybe the right people are in charge? You know, people like us.
If the next film ventured into R territory I wouldn't mind it. At least they could show some blood this time around. If they're straying away a bit from "blockbuster material" that hopefully means that we'll get more mystery, more detective work, and develop characters more.
"Your anger gives you great power.....but if you let it.....it will destroy you....as it almost did me." Neeson as Ra's was classic!
Dark Knight
05-13-2006, 01:12 PM
personally i want Nolan to make this film darker and edgier....with a bit more blood shown.....doesn't have to be whole lot to make it an R....just as long as there is no nudity and not a crap load of cussing. Loeb said ******* once in Begins and hearing a swear word once or twice in a PG-13 film is okay IMO.....
neemer5
05-13-2006, 01:55 PM
Wow. The first one was already a bit dark. Nolan + Dark = Good
Shedhut
05-13-2006, 04:37 PM
Wow. The first one was already a bit dark. Nolan + Dark = Good
abso*****inlutely right!
Ronny Shade
05-13-2006, 10:08 PM
Why to worry? It started dark in 1939 and in 1989.
He has a point...
As for 89, though, it was fundamentally cartoony from the start...as are most of Burton's films, which is what lead to Schumacher's Folly.
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