View Full Version : who would you say is the most overrated Batman villain?
bdsproductions
05-13-2006, 11:00 PM
who?.
Silver Sable
05-13-2006, 11:17 PM
Joker
Bathead
05-13-2006, 11:36 PM
Bane.
batmaluco
05-14-2006, 12:00 AM
Bane.
Same here.
El Payaso
05-14-2006, 12:16 AM
Comics Penguin
Bane
The Chairman
05-14-2006, 12:27 AM
Joker
You just said that just for the sake of saying it.
I agree on comics Penguin. He's just very one dimensional and uninteresting.
Qoèlet
05-14-2006, 12:59 AM
As this is in the section devoted to Batman films, I'll assume you mean which villain in a movie. That goes to 1989's Joker. Essentially, it's just like Jack Nicholson is playing the same role he's played in a dozen other movies.. it doesn't particularly interest me and the whole thing just comes off as campy. It's not bad, per se, but the performance gets more credit than it deserves.
Bathead
05-14-2006, 02:01 AM
Well, to clarify, I meant Bane, comics or movie. The only time I liked Bane was his first appearance in BTAS, Batman beats the bejeezus outta Bane and says to the guy who hired him (Thorne, was it?) "Is this the best you can do?" Kinda the way I feel about Bane overall.
darknight7
05-14-2006, 01:12 PM
In no way is Joker overrated, movies or comics. He is probably the greatest villain of all time. He CAN be campy, he is a psychopath. He is a clown, he is suposed to be funny yet psychotic. Joker has the best of both worlds, he is evil yet funny. The Joker is just as good a villain, as Batman is a hero. Just my opinion, lol. Not saying anyone in here is wrong, I just think Joker can never be OVERRATED.
I would say, for comics: hmmmm, I don't know. I am too big a fan of all the villains.
The movies: I would say The Riddler. I know a lot of people who liked Jim Carrey's performance. Personally I didn't
--dk7
El Payaso
05-14-2006, 01:15 PM
In no way is Joker overrated, movies or comics. He is probably the greatest villain of all time. He CAN be campy, he is a psychopath. He is a clown, he is suposed to be funny yet psychotic. Joker has the best of both worlds, he is evil yet funny. The Joker is just as good a villain, as Batman is a hero. Just my opinion, lol. Not saying anyone in here is wrong, I just think Joker can never be OVERRATED.
Of course not. People is trying to be creative or something.
Qoèlet
05-14-2006, 01:24 PM
Not saying anyone in here is wrong, I just think Joker can never be OVERRATED.
In comics, probably not. But it's the film version that's laughable..... in all the wrong ways.
El Payaso
05-14-2006, 01:26 PM
Yes, Nicholson almost made the movie failed in all kind of ways.
Two-Face
05-14-2006, 01:32 PM
I like Jack Nicholson, I enjoy watching his films but in Batman 89 he stole the show from KEATON it was more about Joker who wasn't that threading and Nicholson had the best lines in the movie.
I hope who ever Nolan chooses to play Joker won’t over shadow in BB2 it should be about “BATMAN” but also enough screen-time for Joker.
Doc Ock 1
05-14-2006, 01:36 PM
I'm going to say Catwoman,mainly because of the pile of s*** 2004 :down movie.
However Catwoman was perfect in Batman Returns.:up: :)
bdsproductions
05-14-2006, 04:02 PM
Bane.
Silver Sable
05-14-2006, 05:48 PM
You just said that just for the sake of saying it.
Huh? :confused:
bdsproductions
05-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Huh? :confused:
the guy/gal finds it unlikely someone would have that opinion.
captain_jimbo
05-20-2006, 06:10 AM
I'm going to say Catwoman,mainly because of the pile of s*** 2004 :down movie.
However Catwoman was perfect in Batman Returns.:up: :)
I know what you mean. Michelle Pfeiffer was always going to be difficult to follow, but you just knew that Halle Berry and the movie were going to be total gob-s***e!:up:
kooguy911
05-29-2006, 05:58 PM
under-rated: The Riddler
Over-rated: Mr. freeze
If we're talking movies (and we should be in this forum) then Joker.
In general, Penguin.
Qoèlet
06-01-2006, 12:36 AM
Yes, Nicholson almost made the movie failed in all kind of ways.
Try it in English now, please.
StorminNorman
06-01-2006, 02:11 AM
The most overrated Batman villian - Catwoman in the movies, Penguin in the comics.
I just didnt find much intrest in the BR Catwoman. Those who ***** about Nicholson do it because he stole the spotlight from Keaton - I see that as Keaton's problem, not Nicholson. While Nicholson's Joker is not your normal current day Joker, he was very faithfull to the original Bob Kane version.
El Payaso
06-01-2006, 07:38 AM
Nicholson's Joker stole the movie because he was planned to have more screentime and the story is obviously told from his POV.
Robin91939
06-07-2006, 08:39 PM
Two most over-rated in movies: Joker and Penguin
Two most over-rated in comics: Poison Ivy and Hush
Two most under-rated in movies: Two-face and Poison Ivy (not saying that they were good, just better than given credit)
Two most under-rated in comics: Scarecrow and Penguin
-R
Robin91939
06-07-2006, 08:42 PM
Nicholson's Joker stole the movie because he was planned to have more screentime and the story is obviously told from his POV.
Nicholson's Joker didn't STEAL anything. It was willfully given to him. Much like Jackman's Wolverine in the X-men franchise. It was NEVER a movie about Batman, the whole movie was an origin story of the JOKER. A twisted love triangle in which the JOKER tries to steal Bruce Wayne's girlfriend. The relationship with the JOKER and HIS sidekick, Bob the goon, and not Batman with his aprentice, Robin. It was about the JOKER's plan to end all of Gotham, and then Batman comes in to stop him at the end. It was the same in most of the other movies in that franchise...but it was Burton who started the trend when he gave the JOKER top billing in a movie entitled BATMAN.
-R
Thats So True!
Most Overrated In Movies:the Joker
Most Overrated In Comics:the Joker
Most Underrated In Movies:the Penguin
Most Underrated In Comics:the Penguin
It Shouldve Ben About Batman Not The Joker. It Shouldve Been About The First The Uncanny Xmen Not Logan And About Wolverine Or Cyclopse At Least. It Should Have Been About Batman Solving The Mystery. Tim Burton Shouldve Gave Batman The Top Billing In A Movie Entitled Batman.
El Payaso
06-08-2006, 12:03 PM
Nicholson's Joker didn't STEAL anything. It was willfully given to him.
That's the exact same thing that I said:
Nicholson's Joker stole the movie because he was planned to have more screentime and the story is obviously told from his POV.
It was NEVER a movie about Batman, the whole movie was an origin story of the JOKER.
It was both. A movie can be about more than one single matter. It happens with most of movies actually.
Batman's origin is told, but backwards. First you see this misterious being called Batman, no one knows who he is or what he is. Then you have Bruce Wayne and we know he is Batman and at the end we know why he decided to be Batman.
A twisted love triangle in which the JOKER tries to steal Bruce Wayne's girlfriend. The relationship with the JOKER and HIS sidekick, Bob the goon, and not Batman with his aprentice, Robin.
For that matter I could say B Begins was about Bruce's relationship with rachel (since she's there since scene 1) or that B Begins was about Ra's and his apprentice Bruce Wayne and not Batman and Robin.
It was about the JOKER's plan to end all of Gotham, and then Batman comes in to stop him at the end.
Then B Begins would be about Ra's plan to destroy Gotham. If we insist in having that perspective.
It was the same in most of the other movies in that franchise...but it was Burton who started the trend when he gave the JOKER top billing in a movie entitled BATMAN.
Yes, and have you noticed how some movies are called King Kong but the story is about the romance between the girl and the sailor? Or it is called Jaws and you barely can see the actual shark?
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