Does Anyone think a Sinister 6 is evn Possible?

[CrypticOne]

I hate to be the guy that downs something, but come on. There is no way we will ever see a Sinister 6 in the movies. Now, I'm just being realistic. You seen what happened with the X-Men movies. Too much characters and they start killing off the characters that don't need to be killed.

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[Reikowolf]

It's the same reason why we won't see the symbiote's original comic origin.. Too much information to cram in 1 movie.

Even in the comics, the amalgamation of the original sinister 6 took several comics.

There's origins and reasons to fill in as well as pasts (what have they been doing between their origin and now)

It's not made for the movie format... Now if Spider-Man ever became a live action TV series.... again lol

[DroolingforGwen]

I have to agree... but who knows... i'm sure they are bringing back Ock... if Sony could just get the rights to King Pin... I'd think that would be a great idea... he could be a minor villain in all three movies (4/5/6)... finally in SM6... getting six other guys to take out Spidey... that is if we never get Carnage or Venom in SM6... it makes for a very intriguing plot... rather than mad scientists going beserk every time...

[Reikowolf]

I have to agree... but who knows... i'm sure they are bringing back Ock... if Sony could just get the rights to King Pin... I'd think that would be a great idea... he could be a minor villain in all three movies (4/5/6)... finally in SM6... getting six other guys to take out Spidey... that is if we never get Carnage or Venom in SM6... it makes for a very intriguing plot... rather than mad scientists going beserk every time...


haha what's better than 1 mad scientist going nuts?

6 of them!! lol
jk

but seriously that's what it will end up being if the motif continues

[DroolingforGwen]

We are probably going to c Dr. Conner's going beserk in the next one.... I'm just wondering who else they may throw in there... but I definitely see a King Pin ark that could work in the next trilogy... maybe even throw in the Black Cat... the other villains should be scorpion, mysterio, electro... those are the main guys you need...

[CrypticOne]

If they made a Sinister 6 movie, which I highly doubt, how'd Spidey survive? Against Doc Ock and Green Goblin, the Spidey suit wasn't looking wonderful, lets face it, he was getting tore apart. The only way he would survive is if the 6 turned against eachother.

[Zombie-tastic]

Where has it been said that there will be more than the third film? I have only heard rumors from fanboys who seem to think its true. I highly doubt that there will be enough material to please anyone else besides the fanboys beyond a fourth movie...unless they want to do a clone saga for 4,5, and 6. Which would just piss people off.

And not to mention, I remember reading somewhere that Tobey Maguire doesn't want to do anymore past 3.

[Gladiator]

Where has it been said that there will be more than the third film? I have only heard rumors from fanboys who seem to think its true. I highly doubt that there will be enough material to please anyone else besides the fanboys beyond a fourth movie...unless they want to do a clone saga for 4,5, and 6. Which would just piss people off.

And not to mention, I remember reading somewhere that Tobey Maguire doesn't want to do anymore past 3.
Its been a while, but it was on this site that the Sony execs wanted to do 6 films and Raimi was welcome to stay if he chose to do so .

[DroolingforGwen]

I wish they signed everyone for one more and finished the series off with Venom and Lizard... I think carnage would be too much to fit in... but six movies??? You know at some point (sooner than later) it's all going to collapse... how much more can you delve into the relationship between Peter and MJ and Gwen after this one... there is just not much more to tell... with the exception of us fanboys... know one wants to see wackos in costumes like electro and mysterio... eventually you just can not avoid stupidity... his best friend is gone after this... the story is over... what is left to tell??? You can maybe further develop other characters at the bugle but even Jameson may get old after SM3/4... xmen is different because of the depth it has... but not Spiderman. THe only story left is Conners and the symbiate... after number SM3 at least... the only way I see a new trilogy standing up is if more central characters are introduced... which is why I brought up Black Cat and King Pin... the villains just keep getting more implausible as we progress... I just think it is destined to fail... not to mention recasting and changing writers directors... which is a very reasonable concern after this one

[The Redux 714]

We are probably going to c Dr. Conner's going beserk in the next one.... I'm just wondering who else they may throw in there... but I definitely see a King Pin ark that could work in the next trilogy... maybe even throw in the Black Cat... the other villains should be scorpion, mysterio, electro... those are the main guys you need...

Sorry kid, but some of those just would NOT work...assuming that a Sinister 6 could. I made a list of every Spidey villain I could think of at one point, and thought over how/if they would work in a Spidey movie, and taken seriously...

1. Venom - the Number one guy everyone is dying to see or never see. Depending on how they work with him, it COULD work, but the way things appaer to be going right now, we're gonna get some stupid Venom that kids with PhotoShop can make vetter verisons of (no offence guys, love ya'lls work!)
2. Carnage - Cool to see? Hell yes! Kletis was insane BEFORE the Carnage symbiote got a hold of him, but I don't think it would work. Hell, let's face teh facts, Carnage BARELY worked in teh comic...
3. Mysterio - one word: Fishbowl. Nuff said.
4. Lizard - if done right, you bet it could work. i'd love to see the emotions Spidey runs through trying to subdue Lizard, knowing he can't hurt Conners.
5. Scorpion - One question, is he can't take his suit off, how does he go to teh bathroom?
6. Rhino - See Scorpion. Also, why would we want some dumb*** running around hitting stuff? We already got Hulk and Juggernuat for that, thanks anyway Marvel...
7. Green Goblin 2/Hobgoblin - I'd like to see a Hobby soon.
8. Sandman - what else can he do other than make a big fist of sand? Yo Spidey! One word: Dustdevil.
9. Kraven - OH HELL YEAH! The one guy, ever, with no superpowers, to subdue Spidey. He found a way to beat Spidey's Spider Sence. Couple the greatest hunter with Lizard, and you got a movie!
10. Vulture - I just don't see it happening...
11. Shocker - as a minor, secondary villain, yes. AS teh main baddie, no.
12. Hammerhead - HAHA! Yeah Right!
13. King Pin - I wish that they'd get teh rights for K.P. Awesome guy...
14. The Spider Slayers - Genious if done right...
15. Electro - If done right...
16. Cameleon - Perhaps as a secondary bad guy...

Those are all I can think of right now...

[Izzysamos]

No. :down

[DroolingforGwen]

Sorry kid, but some of those just would NOT work...assuming that a Sinister 6 could. I made a list of every Spidey villain I could think of at one point, and thought over how/if they would work in a Spidey movie, and taken seriously...

1. Venom - the Number one guy everyone is dying to see or never see. Depending on how they work with him, it COULD work, but the way things appaer to be going right now, we're gonna get some stupid Venom that kids with PhotoShop can make vetter verisons of (no offence guys, love ya'lls work!)
2. Carnage - Cool to see? Hell yes! Kletis was insane BEFORE the Carnage symbiote got a hold of him, but I don't think it would work. Hell, let's face teh facts, Carnage BARELY worked in teh comic...
3. Mysterio - one word: Fishbowl. Nuff said.
4. Lizard - if done right, you bet it could work. i'd love to see the emotions Spidey runs through trying to subdue Lizard, knowing he can't hurt Conners.
5. Scorpion - One question, is he can't take his suit off, how does he go to teh bathroom?
6. Rhino - See Scorpion. Also, why would we want some dumb*** running around hitting stuff? We already got Hulk and Juggernuat for that, thanks anyway Marvel...
7. Green Goblin 2/Hobgoblin - I'd like to see a Hobby soon.
8. Sandman - what else can he do other than make a big fist of sand? Yo Spidey! One word: Dustdevil.
9. Kraven - OH HELL YEAH! The one guy, ever, with no superpowers, to subdue Spidey. He found a way to beat Spidey's Spider Sence. Couple the greatest hunter with Lizard, and you got a movie!
10. Vulture - I just don't see it happening...
11. Shocker - as a minor, secondary villain, yes. AS teh main baddie, no.
12. Hammerhead - HAHA! Yeah Right!
13. King Pin - I wish that they'd get teh rights for K.P. Awesome guy...
14. The Spider Slayers - Genious if done right...
15. Electro - If done right...
16. Cameleon - Perhaps as a secondary bad guy...

Those are all I can think of right now...

Hey... we are in agreement on most of the stuff... as far as the Sinister Six... i'll admit it would be cheezy and I don't see it happening... just throwing out possibilities of how it MIGHT work... i pretty much agree it should be Lizard/Kraven if Venom is gone for SM4... I do think mysterio can be cool as a behind the scenes villain however... boy I'd love to see King Pin as a minor villain in all three future films... you could pair him with Elector/Rhino/Shocker or whatever... I don't think we need an official Sinister Six... just thugs in the same mob or something... King Pin could easily have three/four guys (Rhino/ Electro/ Shocker/Scorpion)... sorta like a mini brotherhood... i'm not saying this would work... just ideas to think about... plus it gives those villains a motive if they are working for someone and not just trying to kill Spiderman... but make the boss some doe as well... but after the Lizard... there may be no more stories to tell

[Britboy]

I think the closest we'll get is a 'terrible two' or something.......

Where you have say Rhino and Scorpion working together for the first half of the film as 'supervillians'...spidey deals with them to then spend the rest of the film taking care of a main villian like The Lizard , a goblin , Kingpin , etc......

Pretty much like I think Sandman will be used in the next film.......

[CrypticOne]

I think that they would only pick villians that they could do visually stunning things. First Green Goblin, then Doc Ock, and now Sandman, and Venom, and maybe Harry as Green Goblin. They would never do a movie on Rhino or Scorpion.

[Britboy]

You could make Scorpion pretty impressive I think......

[Reikowolf]

Scorpion is a good villain... He is essentially Venom in the sense that he was created specifically to be anti-spiderman.

it's a shame he's a b-rogue though :(

[SpiderB]

Scorpion is a good villain... He is essentially Venom in the sense that he was created specifically to be anti-spiderman.

it's a shame he's a b-rogue though :(

I dunno... I never thought he was very interesting. And I think his tail would come off a little too similar to Doc Ock's tentacles(visually).

[Odin's Lapdog]

having six villains who nearly beat spidey in their own right come together and STILL fail pretty much puts a shambles on each of the individual films and attempts they made prior and does nothing but tarnish multiple villains in one big swoop.

villain team ups are anti-synergetic.

might as well put spidey in a room with one hundred ninjas kill bill style if you want that kinda over the top unbelievable action.

:o

[Reikowolf]

I dunno... I never thought he was very interesting. And I think his tail would come off a little too similar to Doc Ock's tentacles(visually).


Well that's exactly it.. he was written as a b-rogue but they could have made him into a really good villain.

[NewYorkSpider]

If Sam Raimi is going to do the next three movies, the sinister 6 will be in Spider-Man 6. He is building up to the final battle with all of the villians from the first 5. GG, Doc Ok, Venom, Sandman and whatever other two villians they will have in 4 and 5.

[Eros]

isn't Ock dead, and if not bringing him back would make no sense after his ending in Spiderman 2.

[NewYorkSpider]

His arms could have pulled him to saftey. Norman Osbourne in the comics was impalled by his glider and he came back. So it is very likely.

[Arcturus]

I don't see a sinister six happening.

[Agent Thermal]

I too don't see it happening, but I certainly believe that it's possible - if the right people with the right budget and vision made it happen. :rolleyes: All they'd have to do is have the villains featured in all the prior movies (assuming that this Sinister 6 movie would be in the far future, after many Spiderman movies have already been made), so origins would not be a problem. Secondly, base it as closely as movie-ly possible to Adam-Troy Castro's brilliant "Sinister Six" trilogy, or at least on the latter 2 books in the trilogy. They're written very well (bad grammar editing, but that wouldn't translate to the screen at all), and even addresses the problem Odin's Lapdog pointed out - at the end of it all, you still have respect for these villains, despite the overall failure. Read it if you haven't already, and hopefully you'll see what I mean. :D But I tell ya - I've been dying to see a movie made of this story ever since I read it.

[The Joker]

Read it if you haven't already, and hopefully you'll see what I mean. :D But I tell ya - I've been dying to see a movie made of this story ever since I read it.

Castro's Sinister Six trilogy is one of the greatest Spider-Man stories I've ever read.Talk about a suspenseful story :up:

But we'll never see that kind of greatness in these movies.

[Syncos]

Personally I absolutely think a sinister 6 is possible. If done in a late enough movie, you'd have a lot of the necessary origins sorted out. Couple that with the secondary villians who you don't have to tell much of a backstory for (ala shocker, or rhino). If they had the rights to Kingpin that'd be a nice change for the movie. It's not only "I've got 6 super powered dudes to try and fight" but also "Who could possibly have the influence to bring these guys together. Who's pulling the strings?!" i'd love it.

[Syncos]

having six villains who nearly beat spidey in their own right come together and STILL fail pretty much puts a shambles on each of the individual films and attempts they made prior and does nothing but tarnish multiple villains in one big swoop.

villain team ups are anti-synergetic.

might as well put spidey in a room with one hundred ninjas kill bill style if you want that kinda over the top unbelievable action.

:o

But the fact that they CAN'T get along enough to work together, is their downfall. This isn't Mr Freeze, Ivy and Bane in Batman and Robin. This is 6 dudes who all think they have the right to end spideys life. Their weaknesses as a team is how spiderman is strong enough to beat them. (lets face it. these guys aren't exactly team players.)

[CrashNburn]

Castro's Sinister Six trilogy is one of the greatest Spider-Man stories I've ever read.Talk about a suspenseful story :up:

But we'll never see that kind of greatness in these movies.

you're right. definitely not!

[CrypticOne]

I'd say keep Ock dead. It wouldn't make sense to me, to bring him back.

[HughJackFan420]

I hate to be the guy that downs something, but come on. There is no way we will ever see a Sinister 6 in the movies. Now, I'm just being realistic. You seen what happened with the X-Men movies. Too much characters and they start killing off the characters that don't need to be killed.

Sorry if this is in the wrong spot. Move if necessary.

man whatever

the X Men movies did great...i mean look at all the characters also in Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter....

when u have multiple characters it is possible to do. i think Spiderman 6 should be when the Sinister 6 comes in the picture. but we will see...i just hope Doc Ock isn't dead.

[HughJackFan420]

I'd say keep Ock dead. It wouldn't make sense to me, to bring him back.

YES IT WOULD MAKE SENSE!!!

see if u wanna talk about stupid superhero movies look at Batman the Tim Burton versions. i mean the first one was good but the introduce the villain and kill em in the same movie knowing damn well that in the comics that have a much longer life span.

so Green Goblin dies thats understandable even though he should've had a longer life span and they should've brought in Gwen instead of MJ. but with Dr. Connors, Sandman, Venom, GG2, Doc Ock who we have seen or gonna see YES IT WOULD MAKE SENSE to keep Ock alive and set up the Sinister 6.

[CrypticOne]

YES IT WOULD MAKE SENSE!!!

see if u wanna talk about stupid superhero movies look at Batman the Tim Burton versions. i mean the first one was good but the introduce the villain and kill em in the same movie knowing damn well that in the comics that have a much longer life span.

so Green Goblin dies thats understandable even though he should've had a longer life span and they should've brought in Gwen instead of MJ. but with Dr. Connors, Sandman, Venom, GG2, Doc Ock who we have seen or gonna see YES IT WOULD MAKE SENSE to keep Ock alive and set up the Sinister 6.

But how would they make a Sinister 6 movie? It's too much and I don't want them to ruin the Spidey movies. It would be good to keep Ock dead, because of the stuff he did in Spidey 2 and said. And for the people that say his "extra" arms pulled him to shore, I thought they like turned off when you see Ock floating in the water at the end. That scene at the end between Spidey and Ock, is good, and people wouldn't understand, if they did bring him back. There not gonna make like 10 of these movies. I think we will get 6, thats all. We will have multiple villians, but we're not gonna get six.

[Menthol]

This would be completely impossible! I mean come on whats the Sinister Six with out Doc Ock? And HE DIED in SM2. Besides how would they explain everyone of those Villains back-story in one 2 hour plus flick? Whoever is hopping for this to happen is an idiot. DUT DUT DUH! :rolleyes:

[CrypticOne]

This would be completely impossible! I mean come on whats the Sinister Six with out Doc Ock? And HE DIED in SM2. Besides how would they explain everyone of those Villains back-story in one 2 hour plus flick? Whoever is hopping for this to happen is an idiot. DUT DUT DUH! :rolleyes:

Finally someone has some common sense. Your right. Too much back-story and how would they explain bringing Ock back? Hey Ock is one of my favorite villians people, but in the movies, he's dead.

[NinjaTurtleFan]

If they made a Sinister 6 movie, which I highly doubt, how'd Spidey survive? Against Doc Ock and Green Goblin, the Spidey suit wasn't looking wonderful, lets face it, he was getting tore apart. The only way he would survive is if the 6 turned against eachother.

So, then you have Chameleon in the movie duh...:spidey:

[HughJackFan420]

But how would they make a Sinister 6 movie? It's too much and I don't want them to ruin the Spidey movies. It would be good to keep Ock dead, because of the stuff he did in Spidey 2 and said. And for the people that say his "extra" arms pulled him to shore, I thought they like turned off when you see Ock floating in the water at the end. That scene at the end between Spidey and Ock, is good, and people wouldn't understand, if they did bring him back. There not gonna make like 10 of these movies. I think we will get 6, thats all. We will have multiple villians, but we're not gonna get six.

anything is possible in the Marvel Universe...

ok in the second movie i mean that big ball of flame that went drowned with him can't have something to do with Doc Ock coming back if not another villain can recover him or since he's all over the paper maybe the military got a hold of him and try to figure how to use those arms for defenses....plus we already got Dr. Connors, Venom, GG2, Sandman, not all members of the Sinister 6 but if there gonna make a 4th Spiderman where do u think it can lead too???
if they make 6 Spiderman movies they can do it. and maybe we can have a cameo of superheroes to help Spidey like Blackcat, Daredevil (no Ben Asslick this time)kind of like the X Men approach with multiple Villains and Heroes...i mean if they do it in the cartoons why not in the movies but of course with more involved acting....i know with Daredevil thats a stretch cuz of all the rights...but Daredevil and Kingpin in the Spidey movies would be cool...

[DroolingforGwen]

anything is possible in the Marvel Universe...

ok in the second movie i mean that big ball of flame that went drowned with him can't have something to do with Doc Ock coming back if not another villain can recover him or since he's all over the paper maybe the military got a hold of him and try to figure how to use those arms for defenses....plus we already got Dr. Connors, Venom, GG2, Sandman, not all members of the Sinister 6 but if there gonna make a 4th Spiderman where do u think it can lead too???
if they make 6 Spiderman movies they can do it. and maybe we can have a cameo of superheroes to help Spidey like Blackcat, Daredevil (no Ben Asslick this time)kind of like the X Men approach with multiple Villains and Heroes...i mean if they do it in the cartoons why not in the movies but of course with more involved acting....i know with Daredevil thats a stretch cuz of all the rights...but Daredevil and Kingpin in the Spidey movies would be cool...

This isn't a cmoic book... that mixing crap don't work in the movies.... however... i do think if they get the rights to King Pin... he could have henchmen and it could be like a little brotherhood to kill SPidey... a lot of baddies worked with King Pin... He could have like three or four guys... electro Rhino Scorpion shocker and it eventually could be a sinister six...

[CrypticOne]

anything is possible in the Marvel Universe...

ok in the second movie i mean that big ball of flame that went drowned with him can't have something to do with Doc Ock coming back if not another villain can recover him or since he's all over the paper maybe the military got a hold of him and try to figure how to use those arms for defenses....plus we already got Dr. Connors, Venom, GG2, Sandman, not all members of the Sinister 6 but if there gonna make a 4th Spiderman where do u think it can lead too???
if they make 6 Spiderman movies they can do it. and maybe we can have a cameo of superheroes to help Spidey like Blackcat, Daredevil (no Ben Asslick this time)kind of like the X Men approach with multiple Villains and Heroes...i mean if they do it in the cartoons why not in the movies but of course with more involved acting....i know with Daredevil thats a stretch cuz of all the rights...but Daredevil and Kingpin in the Spidey movies would be cool...

I think Lizard and Kraven can be in a movie together. That would be cool.

[Odin's Lapdog]

But the fact that they CAN'T get along enough to work together, is their downfall. This isn't Mr Freeze, Ivy and Bane in Batman and Robin. This is 6 dudes who all think they have the right to end spideys life. Their weaknesses as a team is how spiderman is strong enough to beat them. (lets face it. these guys aren't exactly team players.)
IF a Man as smart as ock can't realise that egos won't get in the way initially when putting them together than i don't know why he should have bothered in the first place.

besides, realistically and being professional, if six of spidey's deadliest enemies couldn't make a full proof plan to get him on their first attempt, i don't knwo what's wrong with them all. Especially considering that in both of the films shown so far, spidey has been captured and taken hostage by just a single foe.

it's one thing getting some of them to not get along but getting them all to hate one another and then also getting spidey to beat each and every one of them up is a whole 'nother ball game.